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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Here on another victory Monday for your Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Steelers as they defeat the Patriots in Foxboro at Gellette

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Speaker 2: Stadium twenty one to fourteen in matt A dramatic one,

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Speaker 2: an interesting one, I think, perplexing one man. You and

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Speaker 2: I have both been doing this for a long time.

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Speaker 2: You and I have watched and covered a lot of

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Speaker 2: football games, both Steelers and otherwise. That's one of the

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Speaker 2: more perplexing, hard to evaluate wins, certainly that I can remember.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and my take on it has been all over

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Speaker 3: the place since the final whistle blew too and in

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Speaker 3: the end, and I'm not trying to make it everything's okay,

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Speaker 3: don't worry. I keep going back to our Labs conversation

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Speaker 3: on Thursday, you know, and I remember asking him about

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Speaker 3: early season football, and I always think of Labs as

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Speaker 3: like the Steeler and NFL historian, and how it's changed

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Speaker 3: over the years. And you know, you don't as much

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Speaker 3: practice time or no one plays really in the preseason,

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Speaker 3: and I like that way he phrased it, which is

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Speaker 3: more elegant than mine is. I don't care really what

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Speaker 3: happens as long as you win, you know, like everyone's

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Speaker 3: working on show. Just get out of steams in September,

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Speaker 3: and I urge everyone. All thirty one teams are all

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Speaker 3: going through stuff right now, the three and oh teams

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Speaker 3: you know, Eagles have to blow could kick crazily to

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Speaker 3: take it back. And the Chiefs finally got their first win.

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Speaker 3: And like the teams that you think are those are

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Speaker 3: two Super Bowl teams I didn't even try to do

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Speaker 3: on purpose. All these teams are working on stuffy and

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Speaker 3: it and I'm not going to have the same tone

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Speaker 3: of voice three weeks from now.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe even when we get back from double.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, that might be the cutoff, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And especially AFC game on the road and you get

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Speaker 3: a win, great, and they definitely did good stuff. You know,

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Speaker 3: the pass rush showed up. I know, I guess we'll

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Speaker 3: even start here. I mean, you cause five turnovers or

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Speaker 3: they turned the ball over five times, you should win.

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't be that close, but you should win. And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's listeners going, boy, they got lucky. I

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Speaker 3: mean in some ways, yes, But they're also the best

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Speaker 3: team in the league at forcing fumbles and they have TJ. Watt,

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Speaker 3: who's the best fumble forcer that I've maybe ever seen.

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Speaker 3: They're the best team in the league at getting their

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Speaker 3: hands on passes at the line of image, and other

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Speaker 3: than TJ's big brother, JJ, Cam's like the best I've

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Speaker 3: ever seen at that. So these aren't like Flukes Herbig's phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: And those three players I'd mentioned on purpose, I thought

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Speaker 3: they might have been the three best players on the field.

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Speaker 3: They all were on the defensive front, which we thought

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Speaker 3: could be the should be the best in the league,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of times yesterday kind of looked that way.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's your bread and butter. So you know,

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Speaker 3: Ramandre Stevenson's a fumbler, may can put to be a

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Speaker 3: little loose with the ball. And there's a pick or

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Speaker 3: two that Rogers easily could have thrown that weren't absolutely

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Speaker 3: you know, weren't accounted for. You know that the user

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Speaker 3: error on the Patriots part. And then the other one

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Speaker 3: is there were five fumbles in this game. Steelers got all, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, like the Patriots, and they got their own.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that that one's a little more luck than the

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Speaker 3: other things I mentioned, But hey, two to one, I want.

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Speaker 2: To start where you started. Who in the NFL right

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Speaker 2: now feels great about the way that they're playing, right,

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Speaker 2: the Colts and the.

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Speaker 3: you'd say the Packers, but they just lost the Browns.

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Speaker 2: The Packers just lost to the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right right.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Atlanta Falcons, who you and I both

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Speaker 2: said a lot of nice things about last week, lost

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Speaker 2: thirty to nothing to Carolina Wars blown off.

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Speaker 3: I mean, thirty to fans couldn't have been happier about

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Speaker 3: their young quarterback. He was a disaster yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Their defense looked like it was moving in the right direction. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they gave up thirty points to one of the worst

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Speaker 3: I thought was probably the worst team in the league

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Speaker 3: going into Yes, yes, yeah, right, you know.

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Speaker 2: I am. I am so with you on that mantra

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Speaker 2: of September is about finding ways to win and staying

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Speaker 2: not suffering any crippling, debilitating injuries for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the year. Yeah, I know that the Steelers have been

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Speaker 2: banged up, particularly on the defensive side of the football.

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Speaker 2: They've had some real attrition early on. Yes Fortunately, though

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Speaker 2: none of it has been backbreaking, season ending. It's all

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Speaker 2: been some of these guys are coming back. Some of

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Speaker 3: Lost the major injury yesterday exactly.

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Speaker 2: Right, Even the Elliots in the Highsmiths and the Porters

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Speaker 2: who are key contributors at least their short term, at

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Speaker 2: least their short term, and it hasn't been like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're saying goodbye to one of those guys for the

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Speaker 2: entire season, or a Joe Burrow type situation where if

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Speaker 2: we get this guy back, it might not be till Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Those Harmon came back and grab Pepper's for nothing, he

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Speaker 2: For Harmon played thirty five snaps. I don't think any

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Speaker 2: of us saw the pitch count being that high, and

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Speaker 2: it was very encouraging. TJ. Watt had his best game

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Speaker 2: of the season. Cam Heyward, how you doing right?

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Speaker 3: Good to see I remember you, right?

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Speaker 2: I remember you, Cam.

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Speaker 3: That I did a show earlier and I was like, Cam, who,

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Speaker 3: I just exhaled, like I had to worry for a minute.

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Speaker 3: If we lose that guy or not, I remember him. Good,

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Speaker 3: We're fine, you know, check that box.

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Speaker 2: Uh you're an Adam Sandler fan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, more or less? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear what happened Saturday? When we were leaving

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Speaker 2: off to Providence, we flew into Adam Sandlor was landing

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Speaker 2: PPG Paints Arena Saturday night. So we're literally all standing

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Speaker 2: where everyone kind of gathers before they get on the plane,

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Speaker 2: and Adam Sandler and his entourage come walking right through,

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Speaker 2: right through everybody. Nice And it made me think, Cam Heywood,

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Speaker 2: nice to see you in my best Adam saidlor voice,

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Speaker 2: because it was fantastic to see exactly when you needed him,

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Speaker 2: at exactly the right time he's And so that is

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Speaker 2: the tight rope that you walk this time of year.

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Speaker 2: There's plenty two Like the Steelers are now seven of

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Speaker 2: eight in the red zone through three games.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's definitely one of my talking points with you,

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Speaker 3: because we talked about that in camp. How bad they've

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Speaker 3: been for five years straight in the red.

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Speaker 2: Zone, seven and eight in the red zone. They have

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Speaker 2: points on their opening drive of every game, touch down,

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Speaker 3: Anyone that's like, oh, this is the same team, I

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Speaker 3: always know it's even close. No, And if there's people

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Speaker 3: touching the ball, the people on the field aren't even

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Speaker 3: the same, Like same old Steelers. Everything's the same, nothing's

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Speaker 2: I think the struggles in the run game are where

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Speaker 2: you can make make some hay in that conversation of that, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: looks like I said this fish before.

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Speaker 3: But the run defense looked better.

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Speaker 2: The run defense looked so much better. Yes, and you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: there are there are a lot of things that don't

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Speaker 2: sit right. Even despite a five turnover, five sack, held

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Speaker 2: the opponent just a fourteen points performance by the defense.

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Speaker 2: Matt see almost said Seattle. I'm getting into PTSD.

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Speaker 3: From last week weeknd of Seattle.

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Speaker 2: How good did they look?

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Speaker 3: I said to another show just now too. I'm like

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Speaker 3: their defense might be the best in the league. Folks,

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Speaker 3: when we go back in four months from now and

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Speaker 3: analyze the NFL season, you might be like, se weren't

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Speaker 3: too bad against that defense. Seattle did that to everybody.

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Speaker 3: That's the nastiest could be. I said, those things wasn't

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Speaker 3: coming up pretty good? Too?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good? Yeah, pretty good, I said. I think the

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Speaker 2: Chargers and the Colts are the two teams that are

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Speaker 2: feeling really good about them. So I put Seattle in

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Speaker 2: that group as well too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all kicking their coverage as we speak. For sure.

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Speaker 2: I go back and forth with this, Matt like, I

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Speaker 2: have been thinking about that defense for the twenty four

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Speaker 2: hours since the game ended, and the five turnovers and

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Speaker 2: the five sacks, and the key plays and key moments,

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Speaker 2: and just how they drew a line in the sand

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Speaker 2: almost every time New England got to the red zone,

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Speaker 2: you know, and made something happen. I think about how

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Speaker 2: they had to play seventy one snaps.

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Speaker 3: And the Steelers defense and change as.

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Speaker 2: Opposed to forty nine for New England. That's a twenty

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Speaker 3: Can you keep doing that? You're not gonna be getting

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Speaker 3: people back on defense. You're gonna start living like.

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Speaker 2: Asking one boxer to go twelve rounds and the other

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Speaker 2: boxer to go eighteen rounds. It's just not sustainable.

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Speaker 3: Saying right, and that goes back to steel a running

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Speaker 2: You know, I also look at it though from a

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Speaker 2: thirteen on third down. That can't happen. Four of five

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Speaker 2: But six of thirteen on third downs, four or five

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Speaker 2: on fourth downs, that's a possession down percentage that's incredibly

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Speaker 2: too high, way too high. Yes, However, like the chicken

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Speaker 2: or the egg, is the offense doing them no service

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Speaker 2: by their inability to sustain drives and going three and

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Speaker 2: out all the time. Absolutely, But they can also get

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Speaker 2: fourth downs and make life easier on themselves. That's just

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Speaker 2: kind of the tight rope that I've been walking here

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: You do a lot, you know, like example of something

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Speaker 3: you just kind of brought up there, the Patriots' success

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Speaker 3: rate on early downs was terrible, terrible, and Steelers dam

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Speaker 3: first and second down was phenomenal, but third and fourth

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Speaker 3: down their success rate was really really high. So it

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Speaker 3: was like a tale of two stories for the Patriot

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Speaker 3: offense too, which might just be fluky, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: did they called different plays or you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: who knows. But you don't love being questionable on third

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Speaker 3: and fourth down, for sure if you're the Steelers. But

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Speaker 3: the early down stuff was really really good. And then

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Speaker 3: the thing that shocked me. But then when I let

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Speaker 3: it sink in, the Steeler's success rate on offense across

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Speaker 3: the board was really good for the first time in

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Speaker 3: all year. And here's where I'm going with it is

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Speaker 3: if just recall the game in your mind, because when

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Speaker 3: I read that, I'm like, this might be a typo, Like, really,

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Speaker 3: they're never a good success rate.

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Speaker 2: To sourcewhere else.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't, you know, get first downs. But there were

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Speaker 3: very few negative plays when the Steelers snapped the ball. Sacks, turnovers,

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Speaker 3: tackles for loss, they're not all.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt.

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Speaker 2: Matt and I will have Monday Tuesday shows here.

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Speaker 2: Matt Math is not my strong suit, okay, took out there.

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Speaker 2: Took only one math class in my time in Morgantown,

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Speaker 2: It's fine, that's great. My one math class that I

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Speaker 2: different conversation for a different time. Math was not my

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Speaker 2: This is another one of those kind of walking the tightrope.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I keep saying, Stevie ray Vaughn,

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Speaker 2: The biggest thing for that to me at this point

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you walk into Buffalo and blowed Josh

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00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 3: Allen's doors off, exactly. At least you get to go

438
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 3: to Buffalo.

439
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 2: Exactly, right. So, since Mike Tomlin became the head coach

440
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 2: of the Steelers two thousand and seven, were you with

441
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: ESPN back then, you're still.

442
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,479
Speaker 3: In Yes, definitely what be yea.

443
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: I was in high school in two thousand and seventy.

444
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: So since Mike Tomlin got hired two thousand and seven

445
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: to present, the Steelers have played the most one possession

446
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: games one hundred and seventy three of them in the

447
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 2: National Football League in that time.

448
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: Okay, And we know the defense is going to always

449
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: be important to defense, this organization, the ownership, this town.

450
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: Okay, So since two thousand and seven, the Steelers have

451
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 2: played the most one possession one score games in the NFL,

452
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: with one hundred and seventy three. Second in that time

453
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: frame is the Chargers with one hundred and sixty eight,

454
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 2: so not terribly far behind. That's only a five game

455
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: difference over nearly twenty years.

456
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 3: No long stretch.

457
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: The Chargers record in those games is seventy three and

458
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: ninety five.

459
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: I guarantee it's bad because they're always bad on defensive

460
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 3: special teams and they've had.

461
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks seventy San Diego. This takes back to the San

462
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: Diego Chargers.

463
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: I mean other than I mean, obviously Ben carries a

464
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: lot of weight. But everyone since Ben isn't Herbert or

465
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: Breeze or Rivers.

466
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: Correct exactly right. So the Chargers with the second most

467
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty eight of these one possession games

468
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: are seventy three and ninety five, and they're helped by

469
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: what they've done so far this season. They got two

470
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: and oh in the bank in that regardless season.

471
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 3: They also have a better head coach.

472
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: Now, seventy three and ninety five are the Chargers. The

473
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: Steelers in that same time one hundred and six sixty.

474
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 3: Five and two it's bonkers.

475
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: It's absolutely bonkers.

476
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: And can't tell me you're lucky. You can't tell me that.

477
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: You can't. And so the other side of that is.

478
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: If if we pulled the biggest nerd out on the planet,

479
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: they would just say, well, you flipped the coin and

480
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 3: it came up heads more than anyone else should have.

481
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: You're lucky for a year.

482
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: For a year, you can maybe say that to me.

483
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: For two years, maybe you can say that to me.

484
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: Not over the course of nineteen or.

485
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: Eight an arc season, and there's an arc to it, there's.

486
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: An art to it. The Steelers have played in the

487
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: most a one score league they've played. That's that's where

488
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: again this whole kind of like conversation of how to

489
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: feel on a day like today. The Steelers will play

490
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: the most one score games in that possession in that

491
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: period of time. They have I think by a pretty

492
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: nice margin, the highest win percentage in that time. New

493
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: England is close and Kansas City's close because Mahomes and Brady,

494
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 2: they're going the wrong way recently where the Chiefs, I

495
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: mean the Chiefs are ten and oh and one score games.

496
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: Last year they just probably weren't as good pre.

497
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: Read exactly, exactly right, exactly right.

498
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: If we started this when Reid took over, or they.

499
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: Might be number one, they'd probably have a little bit

500
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: better than the Steelers, certainly if you're.

501
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 3: In that company. That's what we're talking about here, right.

502
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: And so you can look at that again, the optimism pessimism,

503
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: walking the tightrope. You can look at that and you

504
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: could say, Okay, it would be nice if the Steelers

505
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: weren't first in the league in one score games, you

506
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like a game like yesterday is

507
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: a good example. You got five turnovers, you won the

508
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: turnover margin plus four, correct, because Steelers just had one

509
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers to Bobby Spillane interception. You should have

510
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: won by more than one possession.

511
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 3: Matt's turnover ratio it was plus five because you stopped

512
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: them once on fourth down. It was not a field

513
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: goal tried in the whole game. That's right, that's right,

514
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: and reality to me, it was plus five.

515
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: You should you should be winning by more than one possession.

516
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: So that's that's the time.

517
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: I could have lost that game still, absolutely, and that would.

518
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: Be I'm sure an anomaly of NFL history of a

519
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: team winning a turnover march and plus four and still

520
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: losing the game. Yes, I'm sure that that's happened in

521
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: the NFL before, but it's got to be very rare,

522
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: very slim. Yeah, So that to me is again, I

523
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: can I can take that and I can look at

524
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: it positively, and I can say this is a one

525
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: possession league and the Steelers are as comfortable, more comfortable

526
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: in those moments than anybody in that.

527
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: Comfortable is the word, Like, you don't panic, you're I mean,

528
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a lot to it. If the Dave

529
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: Tomlin retires, if he were to give a dissertation on

530
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: how to score win one score games, and it's Tim

531
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: and Belichick and read up and they're all comparing notes.

532
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's things that we're not thinking about. But

533
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it is just holding your water,

534
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: being patient, being in really good physical shape, you know,

535
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: because fatigue factors in latent games. I'm sure there's other

536
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: aspects to it than just I know how to win,

537
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: you know, Like, I mean, there's again I'm looking for something.

538
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 3: Here's here's the crazy stat too. I went along those lines.

539
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: This was the fifth time in thirteen thousand five hundred

540
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: and fifty eight total NFL games In the NFL since

541
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: two thousand, so since the turn of the century, there's

542
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: been over thirteen thousand NFL games. This is the fifth

543
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: time that a defense collected two turnovers after allowing its

544
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: opponents to reach the two yard line. Wow. Like what

545
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 3: you talk about walking the razors edge. That's a really

546
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 3: tough way to live, get me wrong, it is. But

547
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: they're better at it than everybody else. Yes, that doesn't

548
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: mean you're going to do it every time, but as

549
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 3: you said, like winning in the margins, they're there. Turnover

550
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: stuff is great, you know, like all those that that

551
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: chart I sent you that I've been putting together. I mean,

552
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: there's there's one area that's terrible. The explosive play difference

553
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: is horrendous, still bad. But my turnover differential, they're plus

554
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: eight in three games.

555
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: That's why you're two and one, right, you.

556
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: Know, your plus one in miss field goals, you're plus

557
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 3: two in fourth fourth.

558
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Dound differential at now after now you're.

559
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: A plus one. Now you're going you're coming back. You're

560
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: coming back. You're a plus one. But your minus fourteen

561
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: and explosives that's horrendous. Horrendous, But you're plus.

562
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: Worse than me in math classes.

563
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: C's getting degrees, but plus eight and turnover through three

564
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: games is awesome, and that's the most important one. That's

565
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: again winning in the margins, and small thing you mentioned

566
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: or we didn't mention that's going to throw it out

567
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: there too. This is only the second time since twenty

568
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: twenty one that they've won a game in which Chris

569
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: Boswell didn't make a field goal, Like you have to

570
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 3: rely on your supersti kicker, mostly because your red zone stuff,

571
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, is way way better, which I think

572
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 3: will keep up. They're not going to make eight out

573
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: of nine or seven, you know, right right right, but

574
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: they're not gonna be forty six percent like last year either, correct,

575
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: And even little things like boy, kickoff coverage wasn't very

576
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: good lately, kickoff returns weren't very good.

577
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: That was the last kind of goodness sing in my

578
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: notes that I have here is kickoff.

579
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: Prove it much better, much better? Right?

580
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: It seemed like those those games at least equal in

581
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: this one. The games against the Jets and Seattle were bad.

582
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: I mean they were starting at the thirty five thirty

583
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: eight yard line.

584
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: Almost handing them first downs you know that they don't

585
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: have to get.

586
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know this number off

587
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: the top of your head, but it's like the the

588
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: average points per drive when a team starts at their

589
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: twenty five yard line versus their thirty five yard line

590
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: is an astronomical difference.

591
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's probably a field goal.

592
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: It's like it's close to a field goal. I think,

593
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: just for getting that extra first down on the house,

594
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: you know on how when you do that. It was

595
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: bad against Seattle and the Jets. It was much better

596
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: against New England. And that's a big Matt. The Patriots

597
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: had twelve play and seventeen play drives that resulted in

598
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: zero points each of them.

599
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

600
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen play drive at the end of the first half,

601
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 2: twelve play drive at the end of the game zero points.

602
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: Yes, And you're not doing that if.

603
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: They're starting with the ball there at their own thirty

604
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: five thirty eight yards.

605
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: No, right, right, they have a big return. Or if

606
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: they would have got the ball off an interception or

607
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: a strip sack or something like that, you didn't have

608
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: any turnovers and your coverages were better. That's really well

609
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: said and Now you might have tightened up in the

610
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: red zone either way, but they probably would end up

611
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: with three several times or they weren't at zero. Now

612
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: my next point, big point of contention, and this is

613
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: back to symptoms verse. You know when you go to

614
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: the doctor like now, I think you got to go

615
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: to the doctor and be like, our time possession stinks.

616
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: But what's the problem, your doctor?

617
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: The problem because you're running the ball two point three

618
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: yards per care per car.

619
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: Yes, now that's what needs to chan.

620
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Warren's getting contacted three feet past the line of scrimmage

621
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: every time, not even foot and a half past the line.

622
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: Of this game, it was point two yards past the

623
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. Was first content.

624
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: You remember what it was against Seattle because it was

625
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: I could find it against the Jets. So they're living right.

626
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: In that he's getting contacted at.

627
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: The getting contacted with the line of scrimmage.

628
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: Every run that they have, which is you want.

629
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: To talk about tough ways to make a living, the

630
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: toughest way to make a living.

631
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: That's a tough way to make a living. That really is,

632
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 3: you know, that's the thing that needs to change the

633
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 3: most going forward.

634
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: Even if you're the Cincinnati Bengals with a healthy Joe

635
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Burrow and you are chucking the pigskin around everywhere. That's

636
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: still a tough way to make a living running the ball.

637
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: In contacted at the line of scrimmage, just like every time.

638
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't care how great your quarterback and your wide

639
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: receivers are and your this game is, that's a tough

640
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: way to make a living.

641
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: It's always gonna be a small number. Somebody's gonna get

642
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: a hand on. Rarely you're running through massive holes. But

643
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: like the Jets were like three points, it was okay.

644
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: Against the Steelers was one point.

645
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Six yards one you know, from the point you get

646
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: the handoff behind.

647
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: The line of steam as well.

648
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're harder to tackle forward right exactly. Even Yeah,

649
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: you're not even getting to go and.

650
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: You're falling forward for an extra two or three feet

651
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: instead of getting stopped in your track.

652
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: You become much harder to tackle.

653
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: And as you and I spent a lot of time

654
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: this offseason, Dale spent a lot of time this offseason,

655
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: Arthur Motes spent a lot of time this offseason discussing

656
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Speaker 2: those those inches, those feet. Over the course of seventeen games,

657
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: when you're a team predicated on running the ball is massive.

658
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, for to one for the year verse four to

659
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: three is a ton massive, a ton massive. It's time

660
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: possession and then I think I mentioned this, but I

661
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: mean when you're losing time of possession. Fortunately, Steelers had

662
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: no major injuries in this game. Great, right, and you're

663
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: starting to get some guys back on defense. It looks like,

664
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on in Dublin, but I

665
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: bet they get somebody back. They got harming back in

666
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: this game. But if you keep losing time possession, you're

667
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: going to lose more players in your game, for sure

668
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: on defense. And then all of a sudden, you're playing

669
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: lesser guys and then they can't get off field, like

670
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: it really snowballs when you started losing time possession game

671
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: after game after game.

672
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: The best defenses are the ones that don't have to

673
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: be on the field as well.

674
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: Less defense is the best defense.

675
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the Lions have done that so well over

676
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. The Eagles have done that

677
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: so well over the last couple of years.

678
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean, after the first quarter, the number of play

679
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: the snap differential was insane.

680
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Speaking of ego, that third quarter felt like the third

681
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: quarter in Philadelphia last year. Yeah, yeah, where it was

682
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: just the opposition offense, just seventeen play drive, twelve play

683
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: drive whatever it was.

684
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 3: Right, and to their credit, they made the plays when

685
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: the matters most totally, you know, But that's that's a

686
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: tough way to live.

687
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: It absolutely is. And that's another kind of you know,

688
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: walking that tightrope thing. I Motes would talk about this

689
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: all the time, like as a defense, you're defined what

690
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 2: you do outside of the twenty yard lines.

691
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get what I'm saying. Yeah, Like that's a

692
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: huge Belichick thing.

693
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: What you do, what you do inside your inside your

694
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: own twenty yard lines and the shadow of both end

695
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: zones is where you're defined as a defense. And that

696
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: is absolutely correct. But that doesn't mean that those sixty

697
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: yards in the middle of the field don't matter right.

698
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: Or wear on your body, or they're not fun. As

699
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: they're running.

700
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: Seventy one offensive snaps for the Patriots as opposed to

701
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: forty nine for the Steelers. That's like Chip Kellyott organ imbalances.

702
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: You know, that's like Rich Rodriguez his first go round.

703
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: And they turned the ball over and handed to you

704
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: quite a bit. Yes, it could have.

705
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: Been worse, way worse, been way worse.

706
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: Like I mentioned Belichick rightfully, so he's considered one of

707
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: the best defensive minds that have ever lived. One hundred

708
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: percent agree with that. He frankly didn't care about yardage,

709
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: you know, like there were some stats that he's more

710
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: red zone defense number one. They practice red zone d

711
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: more than anybody and playing it, supposedly he yarded the

712
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: end of the day, I don't care one bit because

713
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: it really doesn't matter, you know, right, right.

714
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: And it didn't matter. I mean they they almost doubled

715
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: up the Steelers in yardage two oh three to three

716
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: sixty nine. I mean, but at the end of the day,

717
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: if you can if you can force two turnovers inside

718
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: the red zone, and you can and you can do

719
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: what they did.

720
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm better than you in the red zone and I

721
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: get a lot of quarterback hits and you know, things

722
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: like that that I can control and see what happens

723
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: as a result, ball comes out, gets tipped, you know, right.

724
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: But that still doesn't mean it's not a dangerous way

725
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: to live. You can do that and get away with

726
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: it against New England, right, but if you do that

727
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: against Baltimore or against Buffalo.

728
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 3: I forget what you were saying. They were walking on

729
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 3: the fence or the whatever. Tightrope Stevie Rayvaughan. It's a razor.

730
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, it's it's not as comfortable as

731
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: a tightrope.

732
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: It's a it's like a.

733
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: It's a tough way to live.

734
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: It certainly is certainly is plenty more to get to

735
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: from this game. Our buddy Rob King in Hour number

736
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: two will also do our typical Monday around the league

737
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: is and we've mentioned some of these games. It was

738
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: a crazy week three around the NFL. It was like

739
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: block and field goals. It was like contagious out there

740
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: across the NFL.

741
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: Weird.

742
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: It's funny, how seemingly. One thing I think I've gotten

743
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: to know is that when the rest of the league zigs,

744
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: the Steelers are gonna zag.

745
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: It just feels like that's always the case the Browners. Okay,

746
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: I know nothing.

747
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: Everybody saw that. Fortunately, we both went went with Seattle

748
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: for our survivor Picky A one comfortably. But man, I

749
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: was was this close to taking the Packers, and I'm

750
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 2: I was actually this close to taking the Falcons too.

751
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm glad that that worked out in the end. Plenty

752
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: more to get to West Ruler Matt Williamson, It's the

753
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

754
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: You were tuned about on your twenty four to seven

755
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

756
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: Steelers get it done twenty one to fourteen at Gillette

757
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: Stadium in Foxborough, first time the Steelers have won there

758
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: since two thousand and eight. Yeah, but that which is

759
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: uh listen, I realized they're not in the same division

760
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but still uh, still pretty crazy.

761
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: I mean that was Mike Tomlin's second year in the

762
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: league the last time the Steelers won.

763
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 3: There, and they definitely both ended up in first place

764
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: a lot of those years in between and played it,

765
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: you know, not just the visional ones.

766
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: The Steelers were not the only team that went few

767
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: and far between without wins in Foxboro and Gillette Stadium.

768
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: And I was impressed, Like, I realize they are fully

769
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: out of the to they are out of their glory years.

770
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: I mean, they just lived through the that's decades that

771
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: that franchise will ever have. I mean, it's like it's

772
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: like being in Pittsburgh in the eighties on the on

773
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: the on the heels of the steel curtain, right, but

774
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: that place was still rocking. That place was still loud.

775
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: It was It's a cool stadium. It's one of those

776
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: unique like there's a lot of it's hard to get to.

777
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: It's very hard to get to, yea, but when you're on,

778
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 2: when you're on the team, when you're on the team,

779
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: it's it's not nearly as bad, but it is in

780
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: the middle of Like you're driving through it's almost like

781
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: a college town set up, driving through very similar to Buffalo.

782
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: You're driving through neighborhoods and it's like, oh, there's the state.

783
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: Really, the only reason I know the town is because

784
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: exactly right.

785
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: And in fact, that was like one of my takeaways.

786
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: I don't spend a lot of time up in that

787
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: part of the country. I used to go to Boston

788
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: a decent amount with my dad when I was a kid,

789
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: and he was fiddling around and playing with the Boston

790
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: Symphony and stuff like that. But I was a kid.

791
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 2: I wasn't really or anything like that, like flying into

792
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: Providence and going to Foxborough and all that.

793
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: Like.

794
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: It is one of the most beautifu areas of the country.

795
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: There's so many like cool little quaint you know, like

796
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: lake towns and everything. Some really cool restaurants and bars

797
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: and and and sights and all that stuff.

798
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: Super quick. Like one of my best buds is in town.

799
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: Was at my house two nights ago. He's in from Maine.

800
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: You know, he's lived there for like fifteen years and

801
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: loves it.

802
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: Was the country.

803
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: And my favorite road trip when I was with Pitt

804
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: that we did every year was at at Boston College

805
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: or every other year. I did two of the three.

806
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: Like just driving into BC was like, this is cool.

807
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: Ye all right, it's a it's a very beautiful are around,

808
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: you know, the foliage and right this we landed in Providence.

809
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: You know, it's like right on the water and there's

810
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: still hundreds of boats out on the water because it's

811
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: like a beautiful, unseasonably warm.

812
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: For septastic day of summer.

813
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: Right yeah, it's a it's a really picturesque part of

814
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: the country, which was pretty cool. Also painting a picture, Matt,

815
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: you see what I did there. You and I talked

816
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: a lot about Ross only no mistakes, only.

817
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: Happy little bush, right.

818
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: I just want you to know too, after you made

819
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: those departed references on the show.

820
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch on the plane, by the way, I think.

821
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: I think I am too, and.

822
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: I am downloading it to my iPad.

823
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: Tonight I had the I had the lines from that

824
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: movie stuck in my head the whole night, like going

825
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: to Italian restaurants on Federal Hill Saturday night.

826
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: The crime.

827
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: Right, If you'll excuse me, I've got a date with

828
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: some angels. One of the things that we talked about

829
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: last week was running back usage. It felt like almost every.

830
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 3: Day, trends are getting pretty extreme right now.

831
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: Notable shift this week massive Jalen Warren forty three snaps,

832
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: Kenneth Gainwell fourteen. That's the highest eighty percent of the

833
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: snaps for Jalen Warren, the highest percentage he's received in

834
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: a single game in his entire Steelers career.

835
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: He had some of the highest running back usage in

836
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: the whole league this week. I mean it's to that

837
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: point where it's not only is he like a part

838
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 3: time player, it's he's the guy. So I ten percent

839
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: more than his previous highest snaps. I think you just

840
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: said that.

841
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: I will, and you're talking just snaps here, you're talking

842
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 2: target share.

843
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll just read the all think he played just

844
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: under eighty percent of the Steelers offensive snaps. That's a

845
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: huge number for any running back number, and that's ten

846
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: percent more than any other game he's ever played.

847
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: I mean, so substance. At least they put more on

848
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: his plate than they ever have.

849
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: Yes, eighteen carries were three more than his career previous

850
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: career high. He also led the Steelers in targets, receptions,

851
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: and receiving yards. He is the receiving yard leader as

852
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: we speak, by the way, which that's not perfect, but

853
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: it's a testament to him. He's been receiving the leading

854
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: receiver now two weeks in a row, and he had

855
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: a target share of twenty seven percent that was highest

856
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 3: on the team. But here, I think is the biggest

857
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: one his share of backfield carries. So the only g

858
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: they do this because it screws up if for teams

859
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 3: that running quarterbacks or not. Sure so backfield carries week

860
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: one fifty eight percent, Week two seventy percent, Week three

861
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: eighty two percent. I mean he is getting the ball

862
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: and looks good doing it.

863
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: He does.

864
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: I mean we kind of called for this, so it

865
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: kind of or kind of expected it.

866
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: I think the opening drive for the Steelers offense is

867
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: probably the most encouraging moment of the couple moments in

868
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: that Jets game. To be fair, they.

869
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: Scored the sounds on the first drive, now too, two

870
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: of them, how about it?

871
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 2: And it happened points points on the first drive about

872
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: a game touchdown, field goal, touchdown.

873
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: And they're not think the worst. They're not losing at

874
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 3: the end of the first quarter all the time anymore either.

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Speaker 3: But that makes me crazy. People are like, oh, this

876
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: is just the same old Steelers, Like it's so different.

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Speaker 2: I also think it's funny too, in that kind of

878
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: whole football ecosystem, like what comes first, the chicken or

879
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 2: the egg? Isn't it also ironic that the Steelers defense

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00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: gets a lead early on in the game and has

881
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: five turnovers in five sacks. It's like those things.

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Speaker 3: Never had the lead in this game, you know they

883
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Speaker 3: When was the last.

884
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Speaker 2: Time the Steelers defense went a whole game without playing

885
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Speaker 2: from the lead?

886
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Speaker 3: Right? The lead right right?

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Speaker 2: I put it the wrong way because they're not playing

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Speaker 2: from behind, but you get what I'm saying, where they're

889
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Speaker 2: able to pin their ears back and be aggressive.

890
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Speaker 3: I've mentioned this many times over just talking about TJ.

891
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: Watt's incredible career, He's had fewer instances than most, to

892
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Speaker 3: say the least of at home renegade tails and tiles

893
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Speaker 3: flying in the air. You're up eighth and you know

894
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Speaker 3: they have to throw and he this is coming after

895
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Speaker 3: you because they are in a million one score games.

896
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Speaker 3: Back to your original point, right.

897
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Speaker 2: But that I don't think that there's any doubt that

898
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: there's a correlation between scoring on your first two drives,

899
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Speaker 2: getting those fourteen points, and what the defense was able

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00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: to do in terms of turnovers and sacks. And yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's not a random that's not a random molecule in

902
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 2: that regard.

903
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Speaker 3: Like the problem area is middle of the field passing

904
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: is still still an issue, very very soft. But if

905
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Speaker 3: you're winning, that's not as bad because it doesn't stop

906
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Speaker 3: the clock and you're still going to maybe a quarterback

907
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Speaker 3: hit or you might deflect the past. But it's not okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm not you know, it's still a problem.

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Speaker 2: It's still a problem. And again it's for now. It's

910
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Speaker 2: still in that you can work it out, you can

911
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Speaker 2: iron it out. Kink, you know, a kink in the

912
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: hose type of fly in the ointment type thing.

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Speaker 3: And I think Elliott's been missed more than I thought.

914
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Speaker 2: Guy the communicator, the kind of you know, kind of

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00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: quarterback of that secondary if you will. That's another one

916
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Speaker 2: of those things though. Right now okay, but by the

917
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: time we get to the middle of October, it better

918
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Speaker 2: be moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're gonna lose more people though, you know,

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Speaker 3: you just are you just are you?

921
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Speaker 2: You hope that again, they're all manageable. It's nothing backbreaking,

922
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Speaker 2: but some of.

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Speaker 3: These depth guys that are playing now might when you're

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00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: healthy not play. But then they got some bumps out

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Speaker 3: of the way in the first three weeks or whatever too,

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Speaker 3: you know, Nick, I also think Peppers is going to

927
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Speaker 3: go past Clark, you know. With Eliot and May.

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Speaker 2: Three percent of the snaps, I think.

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Speaker 3: It was he's the better player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think so too. But that's impressed

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Speaker 2: with the team for a week and plays over fifty percent. Yeah,

932
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: no doubt. I think there's some I think there's some

933
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Speaker 2: plans there for him for sure. Yes, uh, that's our

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Speaker 2: number one of the books. Plenty still to get to

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Speaker 2: an hour number two, we've got to, of course go

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Speaker 2: around the league and we will talk to the voice

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Speaker 2: of your Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King. All of that and

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Speaker 2: more as we roll along West Shouler Matt Williamson. It's

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio

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