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Speaker 1: And then lastly, tilt Dallas's offense toward lower value shots

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Speaker 1: above the rake threes for role players, Luca's shot attempts

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Speaker 1: against Tatum and Brown instead of the smaller guards. And

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Speaker 1: then one of the things you'll see in the in

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Speaker 1: the film too is like Kyrie does have some success

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Speaker 1: attacking and drop coverage, and one of the easy ways

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Speaker 1: to kind of fight against that is in the Kyrie

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Speaker 1: led units, when it's all bench groups out there, maybe

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Speaker 1: go smaller and lean into switching and at least forced

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Speaker 1: Kyrie to attack good defensive players in isolation. The volume