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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. He's Lance Metal, I'm John Schmolked.

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Speaker 1: The phone number for you as two four five one

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Speaker 1: three or hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter if you want

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Speaker 1: to get in touches us that way you can. And

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Speaker 1: the Giants are coming off a victory, our first victory

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Speaker 1: Monday of the two thousand and nineteen season, and about

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Speaker 1: as dramatic fashion as you can imagine, they defeat the

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Speaker 1: Tent Bay Buccaneers thirty two to thirty one. Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: making his starting debut as your rookie quarterback, had one

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Speaker 1: of the frankly best debuts in NFL history as a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. Four touchdowns, two through the air, two on

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Speaker 1: the ground, twenty three or thirty six three thirty six

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Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. It wasn't perfect. He had a

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Speaker 1: pair of fumbles, He had a ball that should have

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Speaker 1: been intercepted it was not. But Lance and we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna bury the lead here. That was as good of

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Speaker 1: the debut that you could have imagined. That everything you

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Speaker 1: saw in the preseason that you thought or you hoped

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Speaker 1: was real look pretty real against the atty good defense

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Speaker 1: in the Buccaneers. Yeah, translated over and this was also

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Speaker 1: the first defense that game planned to slow him down.

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Speaker 1: So I think when you take that into consideration, you

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Speaker 1: know that was certainly impressive as well. He stayed strong

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Speaker 1: in the pocket, He was able to maintain his composure,

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Speaker 1: he took several hits, he still made the throws. You

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Speaker 1: look at all of that, I think that's another big

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Speaker 1: factor as to you know, why his debut was so impressive,

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Speaker 1: because most guys they can't handle themselves in the pocket

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Speaker 1: under those circumstances, and he did. And I mean there

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Speaker 1: were a number of times where he threw down the field.

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Speaker 1: The Darius Slade in forty six yard throw. Now he

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Speaker 1: had pressure in his face and he still went to

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Speaker 1: form with that throw. He read the pressure comfrom his

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Speaker 1: right hand side, he shuffled in the pocket to the left.

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Speaker 1: I think it was nassive that was rushing off that

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Speaker 1: that was nassive on that particular play, steps up in

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Speaker 1: the pocket, doesn't quite throw across his body, but he's

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Speaker 1: almost fading to the left as he throws back over

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Speaker 1: perfect throw in stride. He beat Vernon Hargrave's the safety

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Speaker 1: and that was one of the plays I thought he

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Speaker 1: did show good pocket presence. He had to play in

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Speaker 1: the first quarter where Shaquille Barrett got around the edge

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Speaker 1: on Nate Solder and he kind of got a piece

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Speaker 1: of Jones on the shoulder and kind of pulled him

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Jones stayed up, kept his composure, rolled

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Speaker 1: out to the left, completed a pass a se kwon

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Speaker 1: Barkley too converted third down. Now, I do think in

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Speaker 1: the second after a players where held the ball too

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Speaker 1: long and that allowed the pressure to get home. And

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Speaker 1: that's part of the thing rookie quarterbacks can learn. And

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Speaker 1: I think the important thing with this lance is the

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Speaker 1: mistakes that he made are things that are correctable, and

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Speaker 1: some of the plays he didn't make though, our plays

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Speaker 1: that are innate things two quarterbacks that are almost instinctual,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're probably pretty hard to teach, and

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Speaker 1: that he's showing those so earlier in his career is

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Speaker 1: a very good sign. Well. Even Pat Sherman mentioned that

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Speaker 1: in his postgame pressure John he said, you know the

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Speaker 1: things that jumped out to them when they scouted him.

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Speaker 1: They knew he had to intangibles, which are the things

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Speaker 1: that can't necessarily be taught. But the things that they're

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Speaker 1: not worried about, which are easily correctable, which is what

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Speaker 1: you just touched on. You know, holding onto the football

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Speaker 1: as opposed to go for the extra yardage, which was

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Speaker 1: something that happened in the Cowboys game. If you remember

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Speaker 1: when he fumbled the football. You know, those things. Just

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Speaker 1: the more and more reps you get, the more and

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Speaker 1: more comfort you get with the personnel, you can certainly

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Speaker 1: learn from those most mistakes. I mean, he was almost

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Speaker 1: picked off on one throw, and I'm sure he's gonna

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Speaker 1: look back at that throw where there was double coverage

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Speaker 1: and you know, unfortunately, you know, the Bucks fortunately I

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Speaker 1: should say the Bucks dropped it, so you know it

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Speaker 1: didn't turn over and and to be bad field position

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Speaker 1: for the Giants defense. But you know, those are the

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Speaker 1: type of moment you learn from so that you don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily try to squeeze it into a very tight quarter

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Speaker 1: moving forward. That play, by the way, it was a

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Speaker 1: third and fifteen in the first half of the game.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the first quarter, and he was

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Speaker 1: he jumped the route. Fouler could have run a little

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Speaker 1: it would have married even if he did, because Michael

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Speaker 1: Stewart jumps the route, hits him right in the hands.

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Speaker 1: Mike Edwards. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Mike Edwards. A Stewarts

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Speaker 1: steps in their bullets and right in the hands. And

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I saw a couple of people tweet and

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Speaker 1: I was like, what, like, oh, give him credit for

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Speaker 1: taking a shot down the field and not just checking

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Speaker 1: it down. No, no, no, no, no no, no. The

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Speaker 1: lesson there is. That's why sometimes on third and really

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Speaker 1: that's the chance that gets returned for a touchdown had

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Speaker 1: easily been a pick six. That was the first thing. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: So that's why sometimes fans might hate that check down

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Speaker 1: on third and long. Sometimes better to live and fight

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Speaker 1: another day. And I'm sure that's a lesson that Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones will learn and better off learning that lesson on

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Speaker 1: a ball that's not picked off that a ball that

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Speaker 1: is picked off. Yeah, And those are the types of

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Speaker 1: lessons that we're talking about, which you go back, you

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Speaker 1: studied the film, John, and you learn from that so

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Speaker 1: of the things that Pat Schremer Mike Schula talked about

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Speaker 1: all throughout training camp, all throughout the preseason, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: is the type of quarterback that he doesn't duplicate mistakes

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Speaker 1: they set down on multiple occasions, John, that once they

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Speaker 1: tell him one thing, whether it be mechanics, fundamentals, you

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Speaker 1: same thing. So that I think is an encouraging sign.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be more and more interesting to see

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Speaker 1: But you know, for a team that was very aggressive,

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles was blitzed on fifty six percent of dropbacks

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Speaker 1: For him to stay in there, regroup, recover, and then

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Speaker 1: the final Yet the Bucks only blitzed on fourteen of

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Speaker 1: Blitzy handled really well. And I thought the offensive line

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Speaker 1: I thought the offensively did a good job. He was

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Speaker 1: And again zone the thing about it with rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: will completely He missed Russell Sheppard on that bomb, He

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Speaker 1: the phrase, Pat Shermer used one more box to check.

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Speaker 1: He was extremely comfortable from start to finish. And that's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in his environment, which is a regular season game,

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Speaker 1: And you know, here's another difference that I think helped

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones put together the type of performance that he

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Speaker 1: of being excited over a quarterback. Guys made plays for

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Speaker 1: the quarterback yesterday. That's a really good point. And that

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Speaker 1: the first two weeks. Now, this is not a defense

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Speaker 1: mechanism for free line manning here. I'm not bringing that up.

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Speaker 1: So that was a literal and figuratile figurative definition of

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Speaker 1: prior to that, which also prevented the first down. So

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Speaker 1: the defense didn't make a couple of big stops and

432
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 1: they had to pay big moments, which was Connolly also

433
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 1: had the first takeaway of the season for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: He had the interception when Jameis Winston had I believe

435
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 1: it was Mike Evans wide open and just for some

436
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 1: reason overthrew him which could have just been an easy

437
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 1: dump off pass. But the end behind them. The Giants

438
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 1: will take the takeaways when they could get it. The

439
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 1: problem is two plays later, Shaq Barrett feasts again, gets

440
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Speaker 1: a fourth sack and a forced fumble. Seven. A nice

441
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 1: year capitalized on that. Yeah, yeah, well he had three.

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Speaker 1: He has seven sacks in the last two weeks. Yeah,

443
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 1: because he had three against the Panthers, he had won

444
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Speaker 1: the first week, and then he comes back with four

445
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 1: this week, so it's safe to say he may be

446
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Speaker 1: named defensive Player of the Week for the second stray week.

447
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 1: Did they sign on to a long term contract? I

448
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 1: have to look that up, and that guy's on a

449
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 1: one year deal. His agent right now is just listened

450
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 1: to the cash register going off in his ears. Well,

451
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 1: I think his agents hoping it's a one year deal. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: I think it's his language in the contract to get

453
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Speaker 1: the case. But book, folks, the bottom line is that

454
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: the defense has to get better. You can't give up

455
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: that many chunk plays in a game that many big plays.

456
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Speaker 1: Then at the end of the game, once again, Genera

457
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: Jenkins is isolated on Mike Evans and he gets beat deep. Uh,

458
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: there was no safety over the top on that side

459
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Speaker 1: of the field. They were both in the middle of

460
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Speaker 1: the field, and you know, they've just happened to make

461
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Speaker 1: the really big play deep. So, I mean, you just

462
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Speaker 1: can't have those types of big plays and the Giants

463
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Speaker 1: were fortunate to overcome it in this game. Uh. They

464
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Speaker 1: were fortunate that the Bucks missed a game winning thirty

465
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Speaker 1: four yard field goal, which is basically an extra point

466
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Speaker 1: and it just didn't go in. Uh for the Bucks.

467
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: They missed an extra point earlier in the game, They

468
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Speaker 1: had an extra point blocked earlier in the game. The

469
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Speaker 1: Giants made a two point conversion. Those things all add up, folks,

470
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Speaker 1: they really do, and it makes all the difference in

471
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Speaker 1: these games sometimes. So the Giants defense has to get better.

472
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Speaker 1: They did have some more sacks thanks to Jami Winston

473
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Speaker 1: holding the ball a little bit. They got some pressure

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Speaker 1: on some stunts. Marcus Golden had a pair of sacks.

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Speaker 1: I thought Dexter Lawrence again was was pretty disruptive, getting

476
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Speaker 1: after the quarterbacks all on all ends. Uh, defense still

477
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Speaker 1: needs a lot a lot of work. Even though the

478
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Speaker 1: second half performance was much much better than the first half, perform. Well,

479
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Speaker 1: it's become a trend, John, because in the Bills game,

480
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 1: they played much better in the second half too, and

481
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: kept buffalo and check after a rough first half, and

482
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Speaker 1: the same thing pretty much happens all over again. So

483
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure a lot of people are watching

484
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Speaker 1: and they're saying to themselves, well, what is it they

485
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Speaker 1: need two quarters to just get a feel for the

486
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Speaker 1: opposition or get a feel for themselves. If that trend continues,

487
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: it's never a good recipe to have to play catch

488
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Speaker 1: up every single week. So the big plays have to

489
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Speaker 1: be eliminated now. Eleven touchdown drives of at least seventy

490
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Speaker 1: yards in the first three games combined. So you know,

491
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Speaker 1: the law of average says, yeah, things should improve. But

492
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Speaker 1: the law of average right now was also showing that

493
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Speaker 1: they're given up about three and a half per game,

494
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Speaker 1: which is not necessarily something that you can sustain victory

495
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Speaker 1: after victory with. So that's only gonna put more pressure

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Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones and the offense moving forward, which is

497
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Speaker 1: why the defense has to meet the offense halfway. And

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Speaker 1: you brought up the fact that they work for fortunate

499
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: the ball did bounce their way despite the defensive breakdowns

500
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Speaker 1: with the missfield goal, and this is after the Giants

501
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: have had all the unlucky breaks not go their way

502
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Speaker 1: over the last few years. Graham Gono, Jake Elliott, nick

503
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: Folk actually believe it or not, in two thousand seventeen

504
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: he hit a thirty four yard game winning field going

505
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Speaker 1: the same exact stadium. So it's kind of ironic that

506
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: two years later, new kicker, same distance misses. And not

507
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Speaker 1: that Giants fans care about this. But I still don't

508
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: understand why Bruce arians took a delay of game penalty.

509
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Speaker 1: Anybody will ever understand even listening to his postgame press

510
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Speaker 1: or what he said that he wanted to make it

511
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: easier for his kicker from a longer distance. I would

512
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Speaker 1: take the chip shot for a rookie kick, or a

513
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: veteran kick, or anybody in between, any day of the weekend.

514
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Speaker 1: Twice on Sunday, could you bring up the calls from me?

515
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Speaker 1: For some reason, I still can't be more than happy

516
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Speaker 1: to bring up that document. I think you already hanything

517
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: and every if you can send it. I didn't do

518
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Speaker 1: have the document up. I don't know why I opened

519
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Speaker 1: it twice. Can you send the invite to me again,

520
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 1: maybe I can actually access it during this shows on

521
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Speaker 1: to ridof your screen, Ty in Maryland will lead us off, Tie,

522
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Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey, what's going on? Guys? Hi, welcome

523
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Speaker 1: to the show. What's happen time? All right, I'm at

524
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: work right now, so I can't really talk too loud,

525
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to say, um, congratulations to Daniel

526
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: Jones and the Giants were getting his first win on

527
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Speaker 1: his first start, first three plus multiple touchdown game as

528
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: well as his first fourth quarter comeback, so all in

529
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Speaker 1: one game. So congratulations with Daniel Jones on him. I'm

530
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Speaker 1: sure he's surprised a lot of people, me included. UM,

531
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Speaker 1: still a little sulky about Eli, but you know with

532
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Speaker 1: wins that I think I'll get over. So let's let's

533
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Speaker 1: not waste any time. Let's I want to ask you

534
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Speaker 1: some questions and then I'll take the ill take the

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Speaker 1: answers off the line, because again I'm at work. Number one, Um,

536
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with Nate Solder? Like? What is this? What

537
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: is this problem? Like it is like I don't know

538
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: what is this? Feeding concrete? Can he not sustain the blog?

539
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: Like the two times two sacks in a row. I

540
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: saw two sacks in a row, one went four fumble

541
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Speaker 1: for a total, you know, and it just seems like

542
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: he could get lost in the saults once he puts

543
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: one hand on the guy and then he he just

544
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: loses him after that. I don't get it, so I'd

545
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Speaker 1: like to. I mean, it's been a it's been a

546
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: trend for me watching him lately lose a lot of

547
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: his lose a lot of his blocking schemes and then

548
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: eventually the person who was supposed to block gets the

549
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: stack has been a trend, even going back to last year.

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Speaker 1: It's been a trend. So I'd keep an eye on

551
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: that if I were another giant trends or I probably

552
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Speaker 1: you guys, I keep an eye on that. Uh. Secondly,

553
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: talk about the defense. You know, um our secondary is young, yes,

554
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: but you know Antoine, but say he's he's up there

555
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: in age. I just want to know what exactly our

556
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Speaker 1: plan is going ahead on defense because this can't continue.

557
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: We're not going to continue to win games because not

558
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: everybody is gonna be is against the middle of the

559
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: middle of the pack as far as Tampa Bay is concerned.

560
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Speaker 1: So I want to know what our plan of attack

561
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Speaker 1: is gonna be on defense going forward because we cannot

562
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Speaker 1: keep the same personnel going forward. We just can't because

563
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Speaker 1: we're not gonna win games like that. And then thirdly,

564
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Speaker 1: I've really liked C. J. Anderson as far as going forward.

565
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Speaker 1: In the running game. Of course, Goldman needs to start

566
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Speaker 1: because he's been there, and I'm pretty sure, like you

567
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Speaker 1: guys said, he can carry the lower twenty times a game.

568
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Speaker 1: But as far as balance is concerned, I really like C. J. Anderson.

569
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Speaker 1: He carries the points. You know, he holds onto the

570
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Speaker 1: rocky doesn't fumble, and he moves it. He moves the rock,

571
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Speaker 1: he moves the change. So I really liked him going forward,

572
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Speaker 1: and either him and I'll even throw I'll even throw

573
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Speaker 1: another guy in there, le Garrett Blunt. I know he's old,

574
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Speaker 1: you know, thirty two years old, thirty three years old,

575
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Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure he can carry the points too.

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Speaker 1: So let's take a look at who who's out there

577
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Speaker 1: free to see as far as the running backing sound.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, bbs, they're concerned to let's look

579
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Speaker 1: at them. You know, Eric Berry still a free agent.

580
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Speaker 1: You know, Brandon Marshall, the linebacker, Brandon Marshall you're still

581
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Speaker 1: a free agent, so let's look at those guys and

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Speaker 1: I'll take your answers off the line. Thank you guys

583
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Speaker 1: a whole lot. All. I appreciate the phone call a

584
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: few things in terms of the free agents that he throughout.

585
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Speaker 1: Number one, Brandon Marshall was let go by the Raiders

586
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: because his knee was not one percent, so there's still

587
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: health concerns there. Uh as far as C. J. Anderson

588
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: is concerned, the Lions actually let him go when they

589
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: picked up Paul Perkins. I think Hilleman, who is already

590
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: familiar with this system, can be that power back that

591
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: the caller was touching on. So I don't know. Once again,

592
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Speaker 1: if the first idea is to bring in a veteran

593
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Speaker 1: who would need a week or two to get familiar

594
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Speaker 1: with the scheme, I think C. J. Anderson's a fine recommendation,

595
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: and once again, you should always look at every option.

596
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Speaker 1: But if you're looking for that complimentary back to Wayne Goldman,

597
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Speaker 1: I think Hilleman is somebody that can fill that type

598
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: of a role to perfectly compliment somebody such as Wayne Goldman.

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be too overly concerned about maybe them

600
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Speaker 1: not having options to turn to currently on the practice

601
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: squad or are on the roster as far as defensive personnel.

602
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: And Eric Berry, by the way, former chief safety, is

603
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: another guy who has an injury history that you need

604
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: to check into. You don't just bring in guys just

605
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: because they happen to be names or familiar to an

606
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: entire NFL fan base. You're not going to revamp an

607
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: entire defensive roster overnight. Okay, let's not be naive. There's

608
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: also a lot of young guys on this roster, and

609
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: what is the purpose of replacing the young guys on

610
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: the roster if the goal is similar to Daniel Jones,

611
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: to get him out there, gain regular season reps so

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00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: that they can improve and get better and better every

613
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: single game. So DeAndre Baker, whether the struggles or not,

614
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: he's got to stay in the game. Julian Love was

615
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: a healthy scratch yesterday, so you know, Love perhaps could

616
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: see more time. Corey Ballantine, who hasn't gotten in an

617
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: awful lot of snaps on defense. Those are the guys

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Speaker 1: if you're a fan you should be pushing to see

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Speaker 1: on the field much more so than to me. John

620
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: bringing in a veteran that is unfamiliar with the system

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Speaker 1: and hasn't been with the team. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just

622
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 1: not sure if there's a personnel solution out there right now.

623
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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think once they got

624
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: into the right stuff in the second half of that game,

625
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: I think the defense looked better. Four five, one, three.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Lee in Atlanta. He's up next day.

627
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Speaker 1: What's going on, John and Lynn? I'm doing all right? Uh,

628
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: you guys opened up the show great, stole a lot

629
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Speaker 1: of points. I wanted to make a Daniel Jones was

630
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Speaker 1: as expected. We've seen good in the preseason. I trusted

631
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: patting Dave from the very beginning. When they made the pick,

632
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: I was shocked, like everybody, But after, you know, settling down,

633
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: I was like, these guys know what they're doing. He's

634
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: got to be good. The world doubted, but he's shown preseason.

635
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: It's only one game. I'm not gonna get ahead of myself,

636
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: but the kid looks good. He's He's not my major

637
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: concern at this point. It is still the defense. It

638
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: always was the defense. Um. I think the defense played

639
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: better yesterday. I mean, ridged by what I saw from

640
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: Conning Lee. I think Baker played better. There was one play.

641
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: It was a key third day and I can't remember

642
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: when exactly it was. I was watching him the whole game.

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Speaker 1: I remember James Betchet said in the interview he has

644
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: to do what he does best, get his confidence back

645
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: and and push up to the line and engage and

646
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: bumped the receiver. And I saw him do that on

647
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: one play and we did get to stop. I only

648
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: watch the game one time so far, but I was

649
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: encouraged by the defense. I really was a pass rush

650
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: dex To Lars got his first sack yesterday. Marcus Golden

651
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: showed up, got two sacks yesterday. But Jenors Jenkins was terrible,

652
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: and especially after what he said following the Bills game,

653
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: throwing the pass rush under the bus, saying you can't

654
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: come with someone, and then he was terrible yesterday. He

655
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: was terrible. It's no excuse for it. I know they

656
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: let him out there, but he's a veteran. We've watched

657
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: him play against good receivers before and be left out

658
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: there and do way better than what he did yesterday.

659
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: Mike Evans had whatever he wanted. I think that if

660
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: ELI has to take a back seat because this team

661
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: has better suited to look kind of towards the future,

662
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: getting young kids some reps. This team matches more what

663
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is now and what Eli is now. I

664
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: think that you could sprinkle in Valentine and Love real

665
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: quick a little bit and let those guys get some

666
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: real quick coach. I'm the building. I don't know the

667
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: real fast, real fast. I'm just telling you, if you

668
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: put Corey Valentine or Julian Love on Mike Evans on

669
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: an eye on the way, did you know where Jenkins

670
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: get killed, they'll get destroyed. Maybe you give them some

671
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: help in that situation, but why not get but but

672
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: why not give Jenkins help? Then? Is my Pam, Because

673
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: Jenkis is your veteran. Jenkis is the guy you paid

674
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: to come in here. Jenkison and has locked up guys

675
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: like Duz Bryant in the past, one on one in

676
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: bigger games than that yesterday, But yesterday he was non existent.

677
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: It was like he wasn't even trying. And maybe he was.

678
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: I'm not on the field, but it looked like he

679
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: wasn't trying. The men had ten catches, not ten catches,

680
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: and exaggeration over a hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns.

681
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: It was like I was out there, so I'm just saying,

682
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: let's see what Corey can do. Let's see what love

683
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: can do. In the same in the same sense that

684
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: we're giving Daniel Jones a shot with a young team.

685
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: We shouldn't know one yesterday, but we did. We we

686
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: got one back, especially the seals goals. We know. Lance

687
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: said that, so exactly what I wanted to say. We've

688
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: been killed so many times with these seals goes. We

689
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: got one back. But I want to see some of

690
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: the young guys going forward, we get their feet wet.

691
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: And my one question, you guys probably won't know anything

692
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: about this, but what's going on with sam Bille? Is

693
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: he really heard? Is he coming back up for IR

694
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: or that just a raster clearance move that they may

695
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: well Sambill was ineligible to even practice until week six,

696
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: so and he can't come off I R till week eight.

697
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, he's really hurt. They want to put

698
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: him on our if he wasn't hurt. So yes. As

699
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: far as once again, the young guys, which I was

700
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: talking about with respect to the response for the last caller,

701
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: they're evaluating these guys in practice every single day, John

702
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: and I remember, you know, in years past, we get calls,

703
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: why isn't this guy playing right? Why isn't that guy playing?

704
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: And usually the rationale behind why they're not being thrown

705
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: in the early part of the season and maybe it

706
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: takes a little bit time for them to get integrated

707
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: is because sometimes they are not seeing enough in practice.

708
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: They say, hey, this player is ready to go out

709
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: there on an island and be one of the corners

710
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: in there to lock up a star wide receiver. So

711
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: we're not seeing practice as consistently as we weren't training

712
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: camp because the media is restricted, so they're seeing things.

713
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: They're evaluating these players all the time. When you don't

714
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: see a player in I think more often than not,

715
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: that means that there's not enough being showcased in practice

716
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: to give the coaching staff confidence to put them out there.

717
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: You can only dress forty six. The coaching staff is

718
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: not in the business to not dress the best forty six.

719
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: When they make those decisions. Part of it is because

720
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: of injuries. Okay, so sometimes you're forced to keep a

721
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: guy dressed because you're short at one position. But if

722
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: you feel a guy can contribute, especially on the defensive

723
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: side of the ball, where there's been so many big

724
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: plays given up. You know, they're not going to scratch

725
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: a guy simply for the sake of scratching a guy.

726
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: It has to do something with the evaluation process. So

727
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: that's not to say that there's no hope for these

728
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: young guys to get on the field, but I think

729
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: they're moving them along slowly because they still need to

730
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: see things picked up in practice before they're confident in

731
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: giving them regular season wraps. And Julian Loves down outside cornerback,

732
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: he's a slock guy or safety. Grant Haley hasn't been

733
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: a problem, has he. So you're not gonna put Julian

734
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Love outside where he didn't play much in the preseason

735
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: or off season. So you're talking about Corey Ballentine and guys, look, look,

736
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: you know Josh thinking, is that a rough day. No

737
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: one's won't argue that. He wouldn't argue that, but I'm sorry,

738
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: he's as good as he's been. Corey Ballantin has not

739
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: a better cornerback than Genorg think he's just not just not.

740
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: Now you could argue, and I think you were going

741
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: to get to this point if you see Jenkins struggling,

742
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: do you then look to switch it up John and

743
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: give him some safety help or adjust your approach. Yeah,

744
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's fair. That's a fair takeaway from the game.

745
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: Disagree with anybody for saying, well, you know, why not

746
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: do that. But it's a whole other thing to say,

747
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: take Jenkins out of the game and now put Corey

748
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: Ballantine on Mike Evans that I don't think necessarily is

749
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: the most practical approach to a one nine three nine

750
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: four or five one three. Scott in New Mexico's up next? Hey, Scott,

751
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: what's up? First of all, one of the more exciting games.

752
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of Giant games for fifty five years,

753
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: and now that was on the edge of my seat

754
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: type of kind of performance. But the interesting thing, and

755
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be I shouldn't be overlooked. First of all,

756
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones one night game on the road, which is

757
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: difficult to do, though, Scott, I gotta be honest with you.

758
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: I was in that building. It didn't feel like a

759
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: road game. That place, that that that place was Giant

760
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: fans man. It was so bad when he misses the

761
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: potential game winning kick, we had no idea if it

762
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: was good or not because the place was so loud

763
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: you couldn't tell if it was the Buck fans happier

764
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 1: the Giant fans that were happy. It was wild right, Well,

765
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: in any case, he did win it on the road

766
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: and then secondarily coming back from eighteen point deficits. I

767
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: don't think it had been done in the NFL since

768
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: Kit did it, And the last time the Giants did it,

769
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: by the way, it was in seventy when they did

770
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: it against the Washington Redskins. Right, So those things shouldn't

771
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: be overlooked. But the interesting thing there were two plays

772
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: in the game. One is an obvious play I thought

773
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: that contributed to the Giants win, and one was not

774
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: so obvious. Wanted to get your opinion on that. And

775
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: then I had one more point. But the play, a

776
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: touchdown to Evan Ingram to open up the second half,

777
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: put the Giants back in contention. But then a play

778
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: that wasn't so obvious that the Giants six season on

779
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: was a two point conversion. I think it made the

780
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: score and that allowed them to actually get the victory

781
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: at the end because they went for two after the

782
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: right And so I thought that was actually one of

783
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the plays that actually made a difference. But my main focus,

784
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: main main question, I'll take it off the air, is

785
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: the defense had some moments. Uh, they look good in

786
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: certain aspects. Obviously, giving up five hundred yards and offense

787
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: is not good. But I'm just wondering if Daniel Jones

788
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: can repeat himself, and I know it's as you lands

789
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: like to say, it's a small sample size. If he

790
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: can do some of the things that he did yesterday

791
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: in the games that are coming up, can that help

792
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: the defense and inspiring them to play better because they

793
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: know now that the offense can score. And I was

794
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: just curious what your opinion was on that and how

795
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: much motion comes into play with, you know, the defense

796
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: of characteristics that the Giants are are showing right now.

797
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: And now I'll be god to take your answers off

798
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: the other guys. Thank you, Scott. If we use that logic,

799
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: then if there is anybody that is a professional football

800
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: player john and needs to see offensive production to be

801
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: motivated to do their job, then I would say that

802
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: they don't belong in the National Football League, correct, That

803
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: would be my response. So, and I get Scott, he

804
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: wants to read into things, and it's fun to talk

805
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: about these things and unravel them in a sports talk format,

806
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: But that I think is completely overthinking things. I don't

807
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: see Daniel Jones telling a guy like Dexter Lawrence I

808
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: need to play harder, or a guy like Oshane Zimmenez

809
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: or Lorenzo Carter. Those guys need to know to play

810
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: hard or else they're not gonna last long in the

811
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: National Football League. So, I mean, my simple answer, John

812
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: is I don't think the change at quarterback is forcing

813
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: the defense in particular play hard. I think, certainly when

814
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: the offense goes out and makes big plays, it gives

815
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: the defense more. I'm munition to say, hey, let's get

816
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: the offense back to football so that they can continue

817
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: to do the thing. And there might be an energy

818
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: and excitement from watching the offense score shore. But no,

819
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a there's an effort level change

820
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: by any means. Big Boo Kick Off Live is brought

821
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Speaker 1: to you by Course Light entered when the ultimate v

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Speaker 1: I P game they experience Courtesy of Course Light, text

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Speaker 1: v I P to nine oh four six four for

824
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Speaker 1: more details. Coach Marvis and Delaware, what's up, Coach John

825
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: and Larrence. Are you doing what's up, buddy? All right, coach,

826
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I was just gonna call the

827
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: this evaluation I had on DJ go ahead now. But

828
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: the last caller asked something about the emotions of the game.

829
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: And I understand, and you both are right that the

830
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones didn't walk over to the defense and asked

831
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: them to pick up and do something more. But it

832
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: does bring an energy level to the game to where

833
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: it motivates you. Because when they came out in the

834
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: second half, that passed that he through to um Evans

835
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: and they took that all. They took that in and

836
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: then they got the two point conversion. I really believe

837
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: that motive the team. And then if you've noticed the defense,

838
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: they only gave up three points in the second half.

839
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: They played totally difference. Jenkins had a bad game, Yeah,

840
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: but how many catches he gave up in the second half.

841
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: I think Evans only have one? Yeah, Evans just had one.

842
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: But again that that's because they weren't leaving him out

843
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: on an island as much in the second half like

844
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: they were in the first half. They changed the way

845
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: they approached it. Okay, I'll give you that, But the

846
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: defense played a lot better in the second half because

847
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: I believe they were motivated. One of the biggest players

848
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: in the game goes back to what lass was the

849
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas no, hold on, hold on the coach Marvin, So,

850
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: why was the defense motivated in the first half when

851
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: when Daniel Jones ran it in for his first touchdown?

852
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: Why why didn't that sperm on the play good defense?

853
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: It's not about being motivated it you just said that.

854
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: The energy, it's just you the extra energy. Now you

855
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: go into the game and yes, you are energized in

856
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: the game, But as Mike Tyson said, when somebody puts

857
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: you in the face, then your plan kind of go

858
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: down to Perhaps they got pushed in the face. They

859
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: were they were in that game twelve ten and if

860
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: you notice the mistake they gave take next thing. You know,

861
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: you blink your out. You're down eight to ten. John,

862
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: did you know you you knew how you felt when

863
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: they went down to ten. You're down going into that

864
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: locker room. Your motivation is no, no, no, no, Coach Marvin,

865
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: why weren't they motivated when they were only down twelve ten?

866
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying John, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

867
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: Coach Ma you literally just said you're not motivated when

868
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: you're down. Well, how did they get to ten? Because

869
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: I said, John, they were motivated going into the game.

870
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: You always motivated going into the game, even if you're

871
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: a big time on the dogs, you're ready to play.

872
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: And then they were down twelve ten they got hit

873
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: in the face. How is being down two points being

874
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: hit in the face. You're down too, John, With this

875
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: particular team, twenty eight the tens has been horrible for them. Mom,

876
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about twenty I'm talking about twelve to ten.

877
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: It went from twelve to ten to eight to ten.

878
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: Why weren't they motivated at twelve to ten? Don don,

879
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm not to hide yourn with you. I didn't say

880
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: they wasn't motivated when they were down twelve ten. I

881
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: said when they got hit in the stage and the

882
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: turn over started happening, Tampa Bay went up twenty eight

883
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: to ten. In the blink of an eye. It happened.

884
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: That's a fact. Go back and look at it. You

885
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 1: can look at the place how they ran off those

886
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: points and made the twenty eight to ten. But three

887
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: seconds or whatever it was well into that first half. Yes,

888
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: you're down motivational when he was you are down because

889
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: of the eight to ten you were in the game.

890
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: Now you feel like you're out of the game. You

891
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: just lost two games in a row and they were

892
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: playing pretty bad defensively. And then you come out on

893
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: the second half. Okay, you come up in the second half.

894
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Let's see what we can do in the second half.

895
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: That's we got the ball first, let's did we can

896
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: generate something, but we can get point right off the

897
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: bat the first place. They hit a seven five yard pad,

898
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: not only And I can understand when you say that.

899
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Another player makes the claims for the quarterback, and that

900
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: is true. He put that ball on the numbers and

901
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: cant Ingram never slowed down. He hit that sideline. He

902
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 1: was destride. That past was not behind him. There wasn't

903
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: a high block up the field. There was a lot

904
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: of things that went right. There was a lot of

905
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: things that went right on that play. What's your overall point, Marvin,

906
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: what's that? What's your overall point? Oh? My overall? What

907
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: I was just gowing to is that sometimes in a game,

908
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: another person can elevate the game and he did elevate

909
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: their game the throws he made. The receivers was making plays.

910
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: He was throwing wh no modena the past he threw

911
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: to Shepherd and the end zone. Look at the distance

912
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: between Shepherds and that line that he threw it in.

913
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: It was like a three step drop, Doon. It's his

914
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: back foot hit the line hit his third step. Bad

915
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: was in the air. Yes, Shepherd made a great place

916
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: and he made it a play where this quarterback made

917
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: it possible to him not to drop it. I was

918
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: just watch the NFL network just a second ago, and

919
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: they made a great statement. This tomb was playing with

920
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: some guys he didn't play with in the preseason and

921
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: he was hitting among the numbers. Sure, no one's are

922
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: you and Daniel Jones? Yeah he did. No one saying

923
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones didn't play a great game. He absolutely did, right,

924
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: But no, you didn't say that. I know that. But

925
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is he did bring some energy to

926
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: that team, and you do. And it's not maybe we

927
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: don't know what the term is is it makes some

928
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: warm motivated. We don't know what the terms. It's like

929
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: saying what is it? I don't know what it is?

930
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: But when you've seen it, you know what that is different.

931
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing when you don't know how

932
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: energy a person is. They have their football players and

933
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: they've done this for their lives, and they should be motivated.

934
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you now, guys are not always motivated

935
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: to play. Sometimes it takes a speech in that locker

936
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: room to get them going. Sometimes it takes another player

937
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: to step up and say something to get them going.

938
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes they come on and they already to play. He

939
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: did bring them to another level. Can you carry it over?

940
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's week to week. Maybe you can't.

941
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: But he's definitely made that defense play better yesterday because

942
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: they felt if we stopped. Well, listen, coach mart you're

943
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: entitled to your opinion. I don't disagree with it, but

944
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: to thank finally and appreciate the call to say definitively

945
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones got that defense to play better. You're

946
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: now turning that into a factual stage, which you can't prove. Okay,

947
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: So that's so Daniel just wasn't in there. How many

948
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: yards of offense they've given up seven hundred? Well, and also,

949
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean there were there were instances where Eli, Manning

950
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: and the Giants offense made it a game against Buffalo

951
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: John Does that not motivate the defense to go out

952
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: and make a stop. And then the defense gave up

953
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: a thirteen play seventy five yard drive to make teen

954
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: This was in the second half of a game a

955
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: week ago. How many games last year did Manning give

956
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: them a lead in the fourth quarter for the defense

957
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: only to give it back again. Yeah, I just I

958
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: don't buy the fact that the quarterback alone got the

959
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: defense to play better. I agree. Does the guy like

960
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: Jones give a team a spark? Absolutely, but he gave

961
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: when the hell was the spark in the first half.

962
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: Then when they gave up twenty eight points, let the

963
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: book score in all six possessions, which is extremely valid point.

964
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: But he also gave the offense a spark, which is

965
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: most important because that's the side of the ball he

966
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: plays on. And the guys made plays room and the

967
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: level of execution was very consistent that I wouldn't disagree

968
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: with anybody, but to say that Daniel Jones arrives under

969
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: center and then all of a sudden, Grant Hanley says

970
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: to himself, boy, Eli is not under center anymore. I

971
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: better really get that much more motivated. Just once again,

972
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that logic. He's entitled his opinion,

973
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: but don't make a declarative statement that that was the case,

974
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: which was the last statement that he made that said

975
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: it definitely got the defense to play better. That I

976
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't agree with because there's no evidence to necessarily support that. Well, yeah,

977
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: and again, if it started from the beginning of the game,

978
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: it was a consistent thing throughout the game. Maybe I

979
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: feel like you have a strong argument in that regard.

980
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: But the fact that the first half was an epic

981
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: disaster defensive ways, I mean it was an epic disaster.

982
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: They give up three hunts almost three ds of offense

983
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: in the first half. I mean not good, just not good.

984
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: Jig ms Winston, who's turnover prone? I mean it looked

985
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: like he was the most comfortable quarterback in the NFL

986
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,880
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990
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: to the phone's length and say hello today, even Grantler,

991
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: what's up? Dave John and Lance Man. I'll tell you

992
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: it is. It's a pleasure. You guys are great individually,

993
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: you're you're that much better together. It's it really is

994
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: nice that go ahead. Well just one quick thing. People

995
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: that aren't listening to the podcasts are missing out there.

996
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: Phil Simms podcast, the one with Belichick around the Super Bowl.

997
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they're unbelievable. Everyone should be listening to those.

998
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: I just want to throw that up, by the way,

999
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: that's the Giants Huddle podcast. By the way, you can

1000
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: go find it on your favorite podcast platforms. And it

1001
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: really is. They're really amazing. Um. I just want to

1002
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: step back for a second, you guys. I mean it's

1003
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: it's tremendous. I just think that, look, you don't you

1004
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: don't give away a season. I think the concerns about

1005
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: the defense that we could talk all day, I think

1006
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: they're legitimate. Um, I think they you know they're gonna

1007
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: need You know, there's no there's no personnel. You guys

1008
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: are smart enough. There's no personnel changes here. This is

1009
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: about trying to get the best out of the personnel

1010
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: we have. UM And I think you know that that's

1011
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: that's the reality there. I just think that we just

1012
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: gotta step back and say, hey, I'm I'm a crazy

1013
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: giant fan and and I wished the best for Daniel Jones,

1014
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: and and he went out and performed at a whole

1015
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: other level. And I'm not saying that, you know, he's

1016
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: not going to be be naive to think that he's

1017
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: not going to run into tough times. All those things.

1018
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: I totally agree. But the single biggest question once they

1019
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: made the pick. I wasn't a huge fan of the pick,

1020
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: so I, you know, I don't think a lot of

1021
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: people were. I was surprised by the pick. I was

1022
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: somewhat disappointed by the pick, but I was wrong. But

1023
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: once they made that pick, the single biggest issue was

1024
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 1: did we you know, with a with a number six

1025
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, do we have ourselves a quarterback

1026
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: that we can build around for the future. That that's

1027
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: the whole question going into this season. Doesn't mean we

1028
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: give away this season like we're not. We're not. I'm

1029
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: not saying that. Therefore, who cares about the results of

1030
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, The coaches aren't going to give away

1031
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: the season. We shouldn't give away the season. We should

1032
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: fight as much as we can. But but to watch

1033
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: him go out there yesterday with his command, with his

1034
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: presence and and have the the the the challenges that

1035
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: he had that he overcame all the way through the

1036
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: game down to a three minute drive to to win

1037
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better test,

1038
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: and a and a and a better result. And and

1039
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: that's the biggest issue going into the rest of the season.

1040
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: So I said, and I think the energy you're hearing

1041
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: from fans is because people recognize that, you know, they

1042
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: see that, hey, this kid, he's He's a big reason

1043
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: that a lot of Giant fans are going to turn

1044
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: on the game next week to watch the game. And

1045
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, so it's a reason for the first twenty

1046
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: minutes of the show we just talked about Daniel Jones

1047
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: and didn't even mention how the game endedn't one and

1048
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: who lost. We literally just twenty minutes on the quarterback

1049
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: because you're right, look this all offseason we talked about it, right,

1050
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: the most important thing Dave Gentleman was going to do

1051
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: was find the team's next franchise quarterback. Are we positive

1052
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: that he's the guy? Yet? I don't think after one

1053
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: game you can be positive anything in this world. But

1054
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: do you feel much better about it today than you

1055
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: did on Friday? So freaking lutely, there's no ways, there's

1056
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: no way John to not think that. And it's not

1057
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: because of just the results. I mean, it was great

1058
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: that they that they won on top of him having

1059
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: such a you know, an influential game, it's the building blocks.

1060
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: It's looking at the tape, watching the game again and

1061
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: seeing him throw under pressure, seeing him being accurate, he's

1062
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: legitimately fast. Is the first time he ran for a

1063
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: first down? You know. I looked at the people I

1064
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: was watching the game with and we all gassed because

1065
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: it was like, Wow, he turned it on around that

1066
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: corner and ran for a first down. And that's something

1067
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: we've never seen. And I'm not comparing him to Eli.

1068
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: It's not fair because if David Jones can win US

1069
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: two super Bowls, I'd sign up right now. It's not

1070
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: a comparison to that. It's just the fact that he

1071
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: has that as part of his game. I don't think

1072
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna see people play man defense against us in

1073
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: the red zone after what he did, you know against Tampa. Well,

1074
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: you can Dave, Dave, you can Dave you can play man.

1075
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: You can play man, but you almost have to dedicate

1076
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: one of your linebackers to not allow Jones to do

1077
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: what he did, which does limit what a defense can do,

1078
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: you right, It opens up a whole different a whole

1079
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: different challenges for defenses in terms of when you can

1080
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: play man on third down to not even just in

1081
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: the red zone. If it's a third and five, it's

1082
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: a lot harder to play man if the quarterback can

1083
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: then go and run for those five yards. So it

1084
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: it definitely puts a little bit more pressure on that defense.

1085
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: And like we said the start of the show, Jones

1086
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: did some things in this game that Eli Manning could

1087
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: not have done simply based on his physical limitations. It's

1088
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: it's just the way it is. Yeah, And I'll just

1089
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: leave you guys with this. I think the fact of

1090
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: the matter is, you know whatever you know, the media,

1091
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: everyone else. I mean, it's you know, Gettleman and Schermer, Mara,

1092
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: the organization. You guys are fully aware of it. You

1093
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: guys have a balanced beam of of of being honest

1094
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: and good analysts, which you are, but also understanding the

1095
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: behind the scenes and the reality is he's showing that

1096
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: this was a worthwhile, you know, a worthwhile pick to

1097
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: build upon. It doesn't mean that that things aren't gonna

1098
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna have his challenges. I mean,

1099
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating that the next couple of weeks

1100
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to perform without Barkley. It's another form

1101
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: of let you guys go with that. I really appreciate

1102
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: your listening to appreciate Thank you, Dave. Dave's one of

1103
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: our favorite calls. It's another form of adversity, which is

1104
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. So, you know, you take

1105
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: away a key personnel and then you see how the

1106
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: quarterback reacts when he doesn't have the luxury of one

1107
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: of the US running backs in the NFL. Ideally it's

1108
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: not in the second NFL start. But no, you don't

1109
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: want to immediately throw him into it. But I think

1110
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: it's a part of the evaluation products and absolutely and

1111
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: not to go off on a tangent and rehash all

1112
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: the conversations we had through the drag. I'm not but

1113
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: but one of the things I understand that, but just

1114
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: one of the things that I didn't want to piggyback off.

1115
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: Well we've gone later anyway, multiple times, I'm not tour

1116
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: it and you can afford to spare an extra five

1117
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: minutes to listen to me. I already took care of

1118
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: that is a little bit behind and has to make

1119
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: sure they prioritize matters a little bit different. During the

1120
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: course of the day, I was busy running my three

1121
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: and a half page game report and doing it film

1122
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: room with Michael Thomas's and some people can balance, some can't.

1123
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: That's how you evaluate it. Se Some people have a

1124
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: lot of stuff to other people. Don't get me started

1125
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: on what's on my play. But anyway, getting back to

1126
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: the point, the giants made this pick because what they

1127
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: saw on film and the homework they did made them

1128
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: content that they were making the right selection. And that's

1129
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: big part of the conversation. This is not about whether

1130
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: Joe Schmo across the street thought he was a good quarterback,

1131
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: your mailman you're three down the door, neighbor, it doesn't matter,

1132
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: or mel Kiper for that matter, exactly. And I threw

1133
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: in the mailman just for you to pick up on that,

1134
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: so I'm glad you did. It was about the giants

1135
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: doing their homework and feeling good and when you feel

1136
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: good about a player as long as in the room

1137
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: we talk about there's conviction, which is the key operating

1138
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: term you make the pick, and that's exactly what they did.

1139
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: It's a small sample size, but certainly the early results

1140
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: are extremely encouraging to a one, nine, four or five

1141
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: on three. Let's start rip it through our remaining callers.

1142
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: Pete and Stown Island is up next, they Pete heyns Um, Okay,

1143
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: A couple of things, Um. First off, I went into

1144
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: this whole thing probably with a different mindset, you know,

1145
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: than most guys. And the reason I'm saying that is

1146
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: what I wanted to see out of Jones, with his

1147
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: signs that he could possibly be up future franchise quarterbacks. Okay,

1148
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna anoint him, um, you know, one game,

1149
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it can all right. And now I

1150
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: picked up on a couple of things positively and a

1151
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: couple of things negatively. All right. The positive things that

1152
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: I saw were his poise. He showed poise in the pocket.

1153
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, it seemed to me that

1154
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: he took pretty good control of the huddle, uh and

1155
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: the team. Number three, Um, I think he he scrambled,

1156
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: but always was his number one priority was looking at

1157
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: field first as opposed to running UM. So I took

1158
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: those three things in, and believe me, there's a lot

1159
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: more on the other side and the downside, And it's

1160
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: really not the downside because I think he's gonna certainly

1161
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: learn by it is um his pocket presence, being aware

1162
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: of the rush UM. And I think that being aware

1163
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: of the rush of his pocket presence was a little

1164
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: bit limited there. Okay, He's got to be able to

1165
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: pick that up, and I think he will in time. Well,

1166
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: it's funny, there are there are a couple of plays

1167
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: where he was really good seeing the rush and moving

1168
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: up in the pocket and creating time, and there are

1169
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: other players where he held the ball too long and

1170
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: the rush got there. So I think you saw some

1171
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: positive and negative in that respect over the course of

1172
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: the game, oh without question. And and the other thing

1173
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: in the positive event is accuracy was very good. Okay.

1174
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: But getting back to the other side, I think that

1175
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: when he learns that pocket presence and the the rush

1176
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: coming at him where maybe he can see you know,

1177
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: periphical vision or whatever and feel it, I think that's

1178
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: going to increase his scrambling ability and decrease the sacks

1179
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: in that case. So I think there's a kind of

1180
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: a positive aspect you could take out of that. And

1181
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: I think over time, certainly over time, Uh, he is

1182
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: going to hopefully progress. And I'm not ready to anoint

1183
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: them yet. And I don't think any fans can off

1184
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: of one game just you just can't do it because

1185
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: I expect, you know, he's a rookie and you know

1186
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: what he's gonna he's gonna, you know, take his lumps

1187
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: and he's gonna do it because there's only been a

1188
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: few rookies you can name on your fingers, Marino, Mahomes

1189
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: even you know, from the current crop, but you can

1190
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: name old famers who took a beat in their first year.

1191
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: Eight Mint even got best. Uh, you know, Elway was terrible.

1192
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: And I think so, you know, there's gonna be some

1193
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: downside here, you know, and hopefully not a lot of it,

1194
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: but you know, all of the first game so far,

1195
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: I like what I see with a couple of you know,

1196
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: downside things that can be fixed. Thank you, Hey, thanks

1197
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: for calling. Hi, Pete. Good points. Let's go next, caller,

1198
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: Derek and Dallas. He's up next. Day, Derek, he what's up? Hey? Uh?

1199
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: Coming on Daniel Jones. I am so glad that I

1200
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: was so wrong about them grabbing him number six. Overall,

1201
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: I was a big doubt or to begin with, but

1202
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: after what he showed yesterday, it's just fantastic. He's a

1203
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,479
Speaker 1: healthy dough exactly what the Giants and Derek, Derek, here's

1204
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: the thing, And I made this point over the summer.

1205
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: I think everyone was surprised he was picked at six,

1206
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: and that's fine. But I think everyone when they have

1207
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: their opinions around draft time, and we have all our opinions,

1208
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: you have our takes, I think it's important for everybody

1209
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: to be a little bit humble when they have their

1210
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: takes and their opinions, because as much work as I

1211
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: can do, or Lance can do, or Paul can do,

1212
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: or you guys can do, or even a milk Keiper

1213
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: can do, you're never gonna have as much information as

1214
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: the teams do, and they're always going to know a

1215
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: little bit more. So you can express your opinion that

1216
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: you don't like to pick and you think they made

1217
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: a mistake, but I always like to think, look, you

1218
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: gotta let the thing play out on the field. Before

1219
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: you can definitely say something was good or something was bad,

1220
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: which is why those graft day, those draft day grades

1221
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: on these you know picks are just so silly because

1222
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: you have to actually let to see the thing playoff

1223
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: for us. Well, it's the instantaneous gratification of society. That's

1224
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: what it's a product of. But go ahead there, Yeah, absolutely,

1225
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna doubt getlemen again. Um and uh.

1226
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean what Daniel Jones has is, uh, he creates

1227
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: opportunity you know where we didn't have opportunity before with Eli.

1228
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: And you know football is about having opportunities and capitalizing

1229
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: on them. And Daniel Jones gives more opportunities on the

1230
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: field by which his legs being able to extend plays

1231
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: give receivers more time to get open. And uh been

1232
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: very accurate. I think that is uh how he played

1233
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: is even better than how his numbers show. Um uh uh.

1234
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: And I mean that that's probably what makes Sa Kwon

1235
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Barkley so great using the opportunity creator. He doesn't just

1236
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: take what's there. He's able to open things up that

1237
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: other running backs might not be able to get to.

1238
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: So I think having him and say Kwan uh in

1239
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: the backfield. It's going to be uh fantastic whenever that

1240
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: does happen, I guess in here in the next four

1241
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: to six weeks. Um, I hope Wayne Gallman is able

1242
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: to U show up on he He's played well thus

1243
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: far for the most part. Um Uh. But how do

1244
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: you think Redskins are going to handle defensively the Giants

1245
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: without having say Kwan Barkley in the backfield. And I'll

1246
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: take your answer off the here. No, I think it's

1247
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: a good point. I think it'll make things more difficult

1248
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: on Jones because they won't be Look, it was clear

1249
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: early in this game that the Bucks were not gonna

1250
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: let Sa Kwan Barkley beat him the extra guys in

1251
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: the bod store blitz and safety and he eight rushes

1252
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: for ten yards for goodness six that's not you're not

1253
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna line up that way. To all due respect, he's

1254
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: a good back, but you're not gonna line up to

1255
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: stop win Goleman the way you line up to stop

1256
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: see Kwon Barkley. It absolutely changes things. Just like when

1257
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: Zeke wouldn't be in the lineup for the Cowboys, it

1258
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: would change things if they had Tony Pollard because you

1259
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: want to test out the younger back. And credit to

1260
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: the Bucks, they did an outstanding job stopping Christian McCaffrey

1261
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: the previous week, so I'm sure they had a lot

1262
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: of confidence saying, hey, if we could contain McCaffrey, we

1263
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: could do the same thing for Barkley. I think most

1264
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: defenses are going to continue to have a similar philosophy

1265
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay. Let Daniel Jones beat us, and if

1266
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: he does, we tip our cap. If he doesn't, then

1267
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be as a result of us taking

1268
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: away his other options. So they're gonna probably look to

1269
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: get some double coverage towards Evan Ingram. They're gonna focus

1270
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: on Sterling Shepherd when Golden Tate comes back, and until

1271
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: Barkley comes back, Jones is then gonna have to lean

1272
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: on other guys who are maybe complimentary pieces to help

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01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: him out and make plays. One other thing I wanted

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Speaker 1: to throw out before we quickly get back to the

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Speaker 1: last caller about Daniel Jones pocket present is keep in

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Speaker 1: mind most of the sacks that piled up last season

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Speaker 1: were against mobile quarterbacks. Mobile quarterbacks actually tend to take

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Speaker 1: more sacks than the guys who don't run. Oftentimes, sacks

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Speaker 1: is as much of a product of the quarterback as

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Speaker 1: it is the offense. And I look at the Shawn Watson,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he still get more than anyone else. I

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Speaker 1: was going to bring that up last year, sixty two

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Speaker 1: sacks the Texans gave up. That's DeShawn Watson and Prescott

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Speaker 1: fifty six and this year it hasn't changed, by the way,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact they traded every draft pick in their

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Speaker 1: arsenal for Tons Well, because Lara met tonsl alone is

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Speaker 1: not going to make up for a questionable offensive line

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. He's only one guy, only

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Speaker 1: one guy. They think that tons of could play all

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Speaker 1: five positions simultaneously. That would be a hell of an accomplishment.

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Speaker 1: Final call you already, Yes? Final call the show. Let's

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Speaker 1: get it, Okay. I'm keeping you from yes, Jeff, and

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Speaker 1: Huntington is up next, Jeff, what's up? Wrap us up? Um?

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Speaker 1: The just a segue off the last callers call. Regarding

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Speaker 1: the running game moving forward, what I saw from the game,

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Speaker 1: and I was as excited as everybody else to see

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Speaker 1: what happened and whatnot. But my concern is moving forward

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Speaker 1: about the running game, and it's not a matter of

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Speaker 1: the running backs. Right now. I'm looking at the line

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Speaker 1: and I've always been concerned about John Hallapeo in terms

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Speaker 1: of how he can push, you know, forward, because it

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Speaker 1: seemed like during the game that he was always getting

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Speaker 1: pushed back. He was pretty decent on on past protection.

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Speaker 1: But my my concern was whether he was working in tandem, uh,

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Speaker 1: with his guard or whether it was by himself. But

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Speaker 1: it seemed like he was having a lot of difficulty

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Speaker 1: uh learning. Yeah, And I understood that they were packing

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Speaker 1: the box there and those was how do you overcome

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Speaker 1: that because somebody's going to be doing that next week too,

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Speaker 1: I would think no, but don the consue and Vitave

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Speaker 1: and every team. Now, now the Redskins have a good

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle pair two with around Payne. I'm not as

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Speaker 1: Johnathan Allens the hurd still banking they played tonight, and

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Speaker 1: who knows what's gonna happen with the Redskins moving forward,

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Speaker 1: but look, they do have two good defensive tackles. And

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Speaker 1: you hope the Giants are better, but look, the Giants

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Speaker 1: ran for amost seven yards to carry the first two weeks.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks just have to have a really good run defense.

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Speaker 1: Opponents matter. I know people think if you're good at something,

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Speaker 1: you just go and you do it and the opponent

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The opponent matters, and the Bucks it was.

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Speaker 1: It's no mistake in mystery that they were one of

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Speaker 1: the best run defenses in the league. They held Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: who is right on the same level as Barkley, maybe

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Speaker 1: a run below. He was for thirty seven yards on

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Speaker 1: like fifteen carries the week before. They're good at what

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Speaker 1: they do, Jeff, And that's gonna happen. Sometimes you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna run it for five yards of care every week.

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Speaker 1: It happens to everybody. Okay, I'm hoping going forward that

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Speaker 1: we'll see some balance there. Uh, it's just that you know,

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Speaker 1: there are quote unquote to number one centers and I'm

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Speaker 1: just wondering how they're going to evaluate his work going forward. Well,

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Speaker 1: they do have Spencer, they can appreciate the phone call,

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Speaker 1: but I think they look at Halapio, who has a

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Speaker 1: bigger frame, and there's a reason why he won the

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Speaker 1: starting job because what they evaluated during camp and practice.

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Speaker 1: Can things change, absolutely, but I don't think after watching

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Speaker 1: these three games there really is a conversation going on

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna make a change its center. I think

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Speaker 1: that's purely speculative. I think the personnel on the opposite

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Speaker 1: side makes a big difference. As we hammered home, and

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Speaker 1: you're going to get matchups where you have very good

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Speaker 1: defensive tackles John in particular in Tampa Bay that is

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Speaker 1: not just good at stopping the run, but is great

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Speaker 1: at collapsing the pocket. Not to take anything away from

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Speaker 1: Shack Barrett, but there's a reason why Shaq Barrett has

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Speaker 1: eight sacks because what Vida Vella and and Dominican s

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Speaker 1: Wue do for Barrett is they take so much pressure

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Speaker 1: on the interior that you cannot double Shack Barrett off

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Speaker 1: the edge John, so he gets a lot of one

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Speaker 1: on one matchup and the quarterback can't step up in

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Speaker 1: the pocket correct so they're helping the pocket close. Barrett

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Speaker 1: beats the guy off the edge. The quarterbacks basically right

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Speaker 1: into his lap. Whereas other teams who don't have a

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Speaker 1: strong presence on the interior and don't collapse the pocket

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Speaker 1: and stop the run is effectively they can't afford to

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Speaker 1: then focus on the edge rushers. It completely changes the

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Speaker 1: dynamics of Tampa Bay's defense because of those two big

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Speaker 1: boys inside. When the Giants go up against the team

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have those two big boys, then you don't

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Speaker 1: have the same luxury. It's a game of chess. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know it's stating somewhat of the obvious, but you

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Speaker 1: have to take it to consideration the personnel on the

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Speaker 1: opposite side. Lance good stuff absolutely Tomorrow Dtino and Salzburg

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Speaker 1: one thirty Giants dot Com. Big Blue Kick Off Live

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Speaker 1: continues Giants now one and two and we talked about

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Speaker 1: all your folks go two and two to start the

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Speaker 1: year and who knows what could happen The Redskins up

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Speaker 1: next if you want a little scatting report, and make

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Speaker 1: sure you tune in Redskins and Bears tonight on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football for a Lance. But I'm John Schmelt. Thanks

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