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Let's start with the super 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Bowl and and just kind of a big picture topic 63 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: of chasing greatness, because the best part about sports, I say, 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: it's all the time. Like in business, like they're kind 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: of like arbitrary goals. Right when you make a certain 66 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: amount of money, you just extend it the next quarter 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: or the next year. It just kind of builds on 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: each other. It's not like you either succeeded or you failed. 69 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: You'd be like, well based on the economic times or 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: the inflation, like we did pretty well. You can justify 71 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: it anyway you want. You know, I sold this many 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: houses last year the housing arc at crash, and I 73 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: sold this many this year was still a solid year, 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: and you might be right. You know. In sports, it's 75 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: it's very cut and dry. It's very black and white. 76 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: Either win or you lose. And regardless of what sport 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: you play, whether it's an individual sport like tennis or golf, 78 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: or it's your professional raceler racer, or you play baseball, 79 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: basketball or football or the NHL, there is an end 80 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: goal to win the championship. And the individual sports is 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: the Majors and the Grand Slams. In racing, it's a 82 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: specific big events. In pro in team pro sports, it's 83 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: the finals, the World Series, the Super Bowl and the 84 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: Stanley Cup. That is the said goal for most of 85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: the good teams, that that's what you aspire to do 86 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: because once you do that, it changes your life forever, 87 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: obviously professionally your view then as a champion, and we 88 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: monetize that in America, you get paid more to be 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: a champion. We introduce you that the rest of your life, 90 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: depending on who you are, you get paid based off 91 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: that until you die. And both these teams are full 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: of guys that have already won championships, right, Andy Reid, 93 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones, Howie Roseman, Lane Johnson, 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, excuse me, Jason Kelsey, Travis to Fletcher Cox 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: that champions on both sides. You start getting into rare 96 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: air when you get multiple Super Bowls. And let's look 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: at the chiefs Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. You know, 98 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight years old and I've experienced over the 99 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, basically the Internet age, a lot of great 100 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks not named Manning and Brady, right, and most of 101 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: them have one Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers, who I think 102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: is like a top five player of all time in 103 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: a vacuum. But he's only won one championship, and he 104 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: started kind of breaking it down, like some of that 105 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: his fault and people like, well, his defense. He's got 106 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: one championship, and more than likely at thirty nine years 107 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: old going to the Raiders, maybe he ain't gonna win 108 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: another one. Drew Brees one championship. Russell Wilson, who's not 109 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: good anymore, was sweet for a long time. One championship. 110 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: Big Ben Roethlisberger, Right, he's got too, but it feels 111 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: like he's got one bizarre career. But he doesn't really 112 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: get credit for the first one. But he's got a couple, 113 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: and you know, even guys like Joe Namath, Ken Stabler, 114 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: it's very very difficult to win multiple championships, and it's 115 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: very very difficult to win multiple championships with the same coach. 116 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: Look at Peyton Manning went to a ton of Super Bowls. 117 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: He went to him, I think with four different coaches, 118 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee, Jim called Well, John Fox, and Gary Kubiak. 119 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: So perhaps sustained success with one coach and one quarterback. 120 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: It puts you into just a special category. Obviously, the 121 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: greatest combination of all time is Belichick and Brady, and 122 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: then it's kind of Montana and Walsh. What's weird is 123 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: the Niners of five Super Bowls. Montana has four, but 124 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: Walsh quit after the third, so Seaford actually won the fourth, 125 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: So they actually don't have as many as probably most 126 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: people just think that don't follow it, or a little younger. 127 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: But Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes they win the Super 128 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Bowl like they're approaching Walsh in Montana. Just based on 129 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: the simple factor, I would say they both got I mean, 130 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Mollomes has a lot left, but Andy and his 131 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: early to mid sixties, like he's got at least another 132 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: five years and they're in the peak of their powers. 133 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: Their organizations really well run, like you can get into 134 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: rare air. Now we have some random two. I guess 135 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: Elway and Shanahan did it together, but it was at 136 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: the end of Elway's career, right, It's not like they 137 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: had ten years together. Maybe they'd have three or four, right, 138 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: Eli and Tom Conflin have to, but they're both kind 139 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: of outliers. It's not like they it's sustained success over 140 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: a ten year period. Obviously, on those two individual years 141 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: they got really hot, pretty sure one of the years 142 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: they were nine and seven. Honestly might have been nine 143 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: and seven both years. But with the Chiefs, and like 144 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: the Niners, they built the dynasty, and then the Patriots 145 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: they built a dynasty. And that's what the Chiefs are 146 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: now doing. And the two guys leading that to see 147 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: are the head coach in the quarterback. And you win 148 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: this Super Bowl this this year, they will be the 149 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: favorites next year. And we're just looking at greatness. And 150 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I watched sports. I say it all the time. I 151 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: don't watch sports like for the random players. I like 152 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: watching the cream of the crop. And I want to 153 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: watch Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, uh Chase just kind of 154 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: football heaven because that's ultimately that they got a chance 155 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: to be in a rare air and they win this one. 156 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: I I really think you can get to that third mark. 157 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: You're starting to look at beside Brady and Belichick, could 158 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: they be right there with Walsh and Montana as the 159 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: second greatest coach quarterback combination of all time. I don't 160 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: think it's out of the realm possibilities. And then when 161 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: you look at the Eagles, you're like, what defines the Eagles? 162 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: It's not a coach or quarterback because there's their second 163 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: super Bowl since two that the seventeen. The coach and 164 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback are different. Obviously, some of their core players. 165 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Kelsey's a Hall of Famer, Lane Johnson's a 166 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Hall of Nimer, Fletcher Cox probably not, but he's like 167 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: a all time great Eagle. I mean they have some 168 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: of those core guys there. They're all older. Kelsey still 169 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: playing at high level. Lane when healthy is still an 170 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: elite player, Fletcher no longer is, Brandon Graham no longer 171 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: is He's a backup. But like, it's not really that 172 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: group of guys, even though I would say Kelsey is 173 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: a big part of it. So it was Lane. But 174 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: what I think of the Eagles, I think kind of 175 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: their front office and Howie Roseman, and think how difficult 176 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: it is for a general manager to go to a 177 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with multiple head coaches. That's not normal. Most 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: guys don't get the opportunity because most general managers don't 179 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: have success with multiple head coaches, and definitely most gentlemen. 180 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: I think of the greatest general manager, probably non coach, 181 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: of the last thirty years is Bill Polian, and Bill 182 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: Polian went to a son a ton of Super Bowls. 183 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: He was a gem of those Bills teams. He was 184 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: obviously the GM of the Colts teams. He won one 185 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Now he got to a bunch of different 186 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: super Bowls with many head coaches Marvel Levy, Tony Ungi, 187 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: and Jim Caldwell, but he only won the one and 188 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when they fired Doug Peterson, Sorry, 189 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: the Eagles have eight super Bowls when you walk into 190 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: the building. That was their first ever super Bowl. So 191 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: they fired a guy that brought home the Lombardi and 192 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: that's a tough transition, and they kind of overhauled the roster, 193 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: especially with a new quarterback, and it's worked. Like if 194 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles win the Super Bowl. What I'm saying about 195 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: Andy and Patrick Mahomes having multiple Super Bowls and headed 196 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: towards like could they be number two behind Belichick and 197 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Brady one day? Are we gonna stuff? Started talking about 198 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: howe Roseman is one of the great general managers of 199 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: all time. Like two super Bowls with two different coaches 200 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: and two different quarterbacks, that would be an incredible feat. 201 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: It really would, especially like ultimately Doug backup quarterback had 202 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: kind of worked his way up. I would say, to 203 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: do it. Carson Wentz number two overall pick even though 204 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: he got hurt. And then Nick Foles, who was a 205 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: third round pick. You know they beat Brady and Belichick. 206 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni, like no one saw that one coming. Uh, 207 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: it would be. I know they're favored, so it would 208 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: be a little less crazy in theory than their win 209 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: over the over the Patriots. But close your eyes and say, 210 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni, super Bowl champ, that that's pretty nuts. 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But I do know 247 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: where I'm going here on Derek Carr because I think 248 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: he's become one of the more polarizing quarterbacks in the league, 249 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: a lot like Dak Prescott and Kirk Cousins. And here's 250 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: a reality. If you want to win the Super Bowl 251 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: and I think Derek Carr is gonna end up getting 252 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: traded or excuse me, end up getting cut and not 253 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: getting traded, I don't think it behooves Derek car to 254 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: accept a trade. I would just get cut and then 255 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: go choose my team. But if I'm Derek Carr, or 256 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: if i'm you know, a team a general manager thinking 257 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: about acquiring Derek Carr and making in the quarterback of 258 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: my team, if my goal is to win the Super Bowl, 259 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. You're not gonna win a super 260 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: Bowl with Derek Carr, But do you know what, Like 261 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and Kirk Cousins are gonna win super Bowls 262 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: for their team, But you know what they do every 263 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,119 Speaker 1: single year that team is in the mix in the playoffs, 264 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: playing in big games, winning double digit games. Even a 265 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, when Zimmer got fired, it wasn't 266 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: because its fault. So being relevant as a football team 267 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: and having the opportunity, like a real opportunity every single 268 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: year to make the playoffs is worth a lot of 269 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: money in this league. And the majority of teams do 270 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: not have Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Rogers and Brady. So 271 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: when you get the second third tier guy, if that 272 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: guy is good enough, like and Derek car has proven, 273 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: if you just have solid stuff going on around you, 274 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: and for the most of his career he has not 275 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: had that. He has been part of dysfunction. If you 276 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: could just put some stability around him, you can win 277 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: ten eleven games and you can make the playoffs, and 278 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe you win a playoff game. For of 279 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: the league. That's a successful season. And I think when 280 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: the dust settles teams like the Colts, teams like there's 281 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: rumors about the Saints. Uh, there's rumors about the Carolina Panthers. 282 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: You could do a lot worse than Derek. Now there 283 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: is a price point, right, I would like to paid 284 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: Derek about seven million dollars, not thirty eight million dollars. 285 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: So if you can figure out the financials, I'm not 286 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: in overpaying average, because you overpay average, that's where you 287 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: get in trouble. And and Derek's win right above average, 288 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: but he's above average, and the ceiling is capped. But 289 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: the ceiling is high enough that if you have a 290 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: solid defense, if you have weapons on offense, if your 291 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator knows what he's doing, win ten or eleven games, 292 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: everyone's happy you get. Most organizations extend people off winning 293 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: eleven games, as the Arizona Cardinals made the playoffs. Once 294 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: everyone got extended. Now Chris King, Cliff Kingsbury's in Thailand, 295 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: and Steve Kim is who knows where, but they're all 296 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: getting paid. I saw another story on the quarterback that 297 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the Ravens, according to Jeremy Fowler, could 298 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: be almost a hundred million dollars apart and I've always 299 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: supported Lamar Jackson. You know, I wasn't high on him 300 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, and like most people, you 301 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: couldn't deny how good he was. And he clearly was 302 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: a lot more accurate than anyone that was a hater, 303 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: And I would say I was probably I was reluctant 304 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: coming him as a college prospect because I didn't think 305 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: the guy was very average. I remember watching in a 306 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: bull game against Mississippi State throwing the ball into the ground. 307 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, you can't play like that, and he worked 308 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: on it and he improved. But when I read these 309 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars apart, like hard of doing a deal. 310 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: And anyone listening to this knows like if if if 311 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: there's a home right now on the market for two 312 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: million dollars and you come in with an offer of 313 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars, you're not gonna get a deal done. 314 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: You got no shot. Right If I'm making nine dollars 315 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: working for someone, and it's like I want to race, 316 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, coming to the office tomorrow and 317 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: tell me what you think you're worth. And if I 318 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: go from nine dollars and I look at him and 319 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: go I think I'm more seven hundred seventy five thousand dollars. 320 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. But if I come in, who knows, 321 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: maybe say one, maybe we can end up meeting at one. 322 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: Just like if the house is on sale for two 323 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: million dollars, if I come in with an offer, housing 324 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: markets kind of enhambles uh, it's definitely slowing down rates 325 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: her up at one point six five. Who knows, Maybe 326 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: that seller is desperate to get out. Maybe we can 327 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: meet in the middle, and maybe I can end up 328 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: getting it for one point seven six. But when you 329 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: are so far away in business like this is pretty 330 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: clear where this thing's destined to go not gonna work out. 331 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: It ain't happening. And listen, I said last year Lamar 332 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: Jackson should have signed the contract. Just because one outlier 333 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: deal happened in Deshaun Watson in Cleveland Browns does not 334 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: mean that anyone else is gonna do that. There's always 335 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: one idiot, and they were the idiots, and that deal 336 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: is an embarrassment to the entire league when you factor 337 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: in all the different variables and no one's gonna follow it. 338 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: Because Deshaun Watson even not even in trouble, is not 339 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: worth that much money. And we saw this year. You 340 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: better keep your fingers crossed that he can get back 341 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: to he once was because he looked terrible. I understand 342 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson thinking he's worth more, because do you know 343 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: what's never happened in these negotiations, The team has offered 344 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: more money than the player thought he was worth it. 345 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: I'll take it right. It's it's always the team's gonna 346 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: lowball you. Player is gonna come or his representatives gonna 347 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: come in higher. When you're a hundred million dollars apart, 348 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: someone's living in La La land. Because I don't care 349 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: even if you hit the open market. If Lamar Jackson 350 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: hit the open market, I don't think there's a team 351 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: that pays him a deal that sniffs that Cleveland Brown deal. 352 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: It sniffs it. And Lamar Jackson has proven to be 353 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: an m v P caliber player. Deshaun Watson is not. 354 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: He's proven to be fantastic human being, never gets in 355 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: any trouble. Now, some of the durability things have started 356 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: to creep in. Right, He's been hurt a couple of times. 357 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: But I think Lamar Jackson needs and listen I'm not 358 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: pro agent necessarily, never had one, had one actually ended 359 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: up losing money in the deal. Whatever, It's completely different 360 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: industry a lot less money. But I'm all for representing 361 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: yourself if you can come to the conclusion of getting 362 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: a deal done, because that's the most important thing in 363 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: any transaction. How do we get a deal done? And 364 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: when you're a hundred million dollars apart, well, what does 365 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: that mean? Like, does that mean all these other teams 366 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: that need quarterbacks are just gonna bridge that gap? To me, 367 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: even other teams that would want Lamar Jackson, maybe they'd 368 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: still be fifty million dollars apart. I think someone needs 369 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: to get with this guy, and we just gotta get 370 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: some realistic expectations right there. There has to be some 371 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: realistic expectations from the Lamar Jackson side because and I'm 372 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: not trying to like, you know, defend the Ravens here, 373 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: but like that to me is more of a reflection 374 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson than it is the Baltimore Ravens. For 375 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: an office who historically has done deals with a lot 376 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: of players over the years, right, they've also had a 377 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: lot of guys walks, so you know where I've stood 378 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: I think he ends up getting traded, but I also 379 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: think it becomes a lot more complicated to trade a 380 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: guy who wants a two hundred fifty million dollar contract 381 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: or two d thirty million dollar contract purely guarante, you know, 382 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed, just like Shaun Watson. I don't think the 383 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: other thirty one teams in the league. I guess you 384 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: could take out the Ravens and the Browns are just 385 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: like itching to do that, right, especially even the desperate ones. 386 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they'd give you a hundred seventy five guaranteed, or 387 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: maybe even two hundred. But if he thinks to thirty 388 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: is the number, we're still thirty million dollars apart. That's 389 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: a long way. Free agencies not that far away. You 390 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: know what ends up happening player X and team X goes. 391 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: I think I'm worth four million, the team thinks I'm 392 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: worth two and a half. Or I think I'm worth 393 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: ten million the team my team thinks I'm worth seven. 394 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: That's that's a gap, right, And if you factor it 395 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: over three or four years, we're ten million dollars apart. 396 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: We're one point five million dollars apart on the average 397 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: per year, like, those are gaps that are bridgeable. If 398 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: I think my house is worth a million, you think 399 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: it's worth eight. Let's maybe I can buy back an 400 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: interest point. Maybe you know, I can redo the kitchen 401 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: for you. But we can figure out something when we're 402 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars apart. Uh. That that's that's the deal. 403 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: That's never happening. And last, but not least, I'm not 404 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: gonna bitch and moan about the Pro Bowl. I didn't 405 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: watch it, but to think that the NFL like they 406 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: have to have an event this week that they can televise, 407 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: it's part of the television package. Do I think it's 408 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: really stupid the Pro Bowl in general? Of course it is. 409 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: It's also impossible, like in baseball, you can just play 410 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: a game at normal speed, no one worries about getting hurt. 411 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: You've seen what the NBA All Star Game has become 412 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot like the regular season, pretty terrible, an awful product. 413 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: In football, you can't play football half asks. You can't 414 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: even do it. And I just flipped the channel because 415 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to watch two naps. It's hard to play 416 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: flag football, especially when these guys their knees and body 417 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: parts are worth so much so it was a bad product. 418 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Of course it is, but they need something to put 419 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: on television because clearly ABC had the game today. It's 420 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: part of the package that nets them so much money. 421 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: And there is nothing going on this week, right. I 422 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: saw that when the Pro Bowl ended there was an 423 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: NBA game on. I got news for you. No one's watching. 424 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what the ratings will be for this 425 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: flag football game. It'll be higher than every regular season 426 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: baseball game and probably NBA Game of the year, and honestly, 427 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: it might not even be that close. So this game 428 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: is simply for inventory. They need inventory, and this week 429 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: they need something. I don't think there's an easy thing 430 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: to do. You just get all the quarterbacks and so 431 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: you can throw the farthest. They did stuff like that, 432 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: they did dodge ball, they had some different events. It's 433 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: gonna be cheesy, and if you hate it, I got 434 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: news for you. It's not for you, just like it's 435 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: not for me. But it's for somebody. And it's for 436 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: somebody that when you add all those somebody's up equal 437 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: numbers that the other leagues would die for. So it's 438 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: simply a business, you know, keep an inventory rolling so 439 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: they can keep the cash rolling. Is it a cash grab? Yes, 440 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: they're in the business of making money, and uh, I 441 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: think we're always gonna have people complained about it, but 442 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do. You want something to complain about. 443 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: I saw a trailer for the movie White Man Can't Jump, 444 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: like the new modern day version. I was embarrassed. I 445 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: I can't Jack Harlow, who actually kind of like who's 446 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: not bad? Sometimes I put them on my Pandora station 447 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: when I'm at the gym. You can't remake that movie, 448 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: especially with the two guys they remade it with, Like 449 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: that's that's embarrassing. Like, ultimately, White Man Can't Jump was one, 450 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: it was just a classic, and two was made with 451 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: two great actors, two legends in the business. You can't 452 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: just pull some white Wrapper and some other random guy 453 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: I've never seen before and expect to have some success 454 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: because I'm offended. Honestly, I'm offended. I'm offended by nothing 455 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: right I can. I'm not one of those people that 456 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: always pretends to be offended. Because I had some of 457 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: the energy. I got too much going on in life. 458 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: I earned the energy to put negative thoughts always in 459 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: my head. I was offended when I saw that someone 460 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: actually thought this would be a good idea. Uh super 461 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: Bowl content. You know I'm gonna be flowing this week. 462 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: Coward will be on the show on Tuesday, and let's 463 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: rock and roll baby volume