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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real house Boss of Atlanta, New

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Speaker 2: Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise

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Speaker 2: and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from

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Speaker 2: the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset,

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Speaker 2: in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space

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Speaker 2: or scripted as well. Hey, rain drops on today's episode

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Speaker 2: of Reality with the King.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have an exclusive.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been this excited since I interviewed all the

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Speaker 2: celebrities that I do. But this particular person to me

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Speaker 2: is the gift that keeps on giving. She's the ape

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Speaker 2: housewife of the Real house BOSSI ors County. But no

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Speaker 2: all just aside, we have so much to get into.

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Speaker 2: She's my friend. I love me some Keiki Monique Lady.

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Speaker 1: Jumped to me. Gays and days give it up for

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Speaker 1: the reason for this season.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Kiki girl, Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Kiki? How famous are you now? Please?

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Speaker 3: I like trust me as I was like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, are people sick of hearing my name? Because

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like this is I feel like

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Speaker 3: I'm sick of hearing my name, But you know, I

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Speaker 3: guess everyone knows my name now.

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Speaker 1: No, listen, you are the.

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Speaker 2: Most talked about non cast member in Real Housewive history,

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Speaker 2: which to me is super fascinating. But before we get

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Speaker 2: into the conversation about what's saying happening this season and

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Speaker 2: you clearing the air as well, I do want.

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Speaker 1: To start with you, though, Kiki Monique, set the record straight.

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Speaker 1: Are you a blogger or journalist? I?

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Speaker 3: You know what, I don't think I'm either one of

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Speaker 3: those things, but I wouldn't you know, I don't care

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Speaker 3: if people want to categorize me as those I'm fine

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Speaker 3: to take those labels. I just think that people have

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Speaker 3: a certain attachment or identity of what they believe a

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Speaker 3: I think we live in a world where creators have

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Speaker 3: of like, I like to give people news their nosey about.

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Speaker 3: That's my tagline, and I want to do it in

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Speaker 3: a way that people can absorb it. People can't absorb

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Speaker 3: news the way that we used to they have very short, limited,

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Speaker 3: you know, attention spans because of TikTok, because of these things.

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Speaker 3: And that's why my audience really loved me, because I

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Speaker 3: was able to give them, you know, really you know,

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Speaker 3: was And my whole point was, I was always going

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Speaker 3: to source. I was always going to find references. I'm

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Speaker 3: not someone who typically you know, does blind items, does rumors.

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Speaker 3: That's not my niche. While I and I dealt to

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Speaker 3: that niche. I will read those things, It's just not

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how did you get your star? Because you

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Speaker 1: are on.

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Speaker 2: Radio and the you co hosts a daily show, Reality

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Speaker 2: Checked with the Icon the Legend Real House Spots of

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Speaker 2: New York star Derinda. So, but like, how did you

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Speaker 3: I mean I actually have a background. I did actually

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Speaker 3: go to school for journalism. So like that's not something

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Speaker 3: when people know because I don't talk about it because

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Speaker 3: And you know, I talk about this because you know,

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Speaker 3: I talk about my personal life a lot. I ended

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Speaker 3: quickly because I was like, here, I'm going to talk

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Speaker 3: Now everyone on TikTok does that, but in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: Know me, and now you have a whole new legion

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Speaker 2: of followers who know you as the person that gave

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Speaker 2: the Real House Lives of Orange County the best storyline,

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Speaker 2: the most controversial storyline. I'll be a good bad since

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Speaker 2: Brooks allegedly lines about cancer like this is listen.

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Speaker 1: Kikimo nig Mus Singhy.

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Speaker 2: You have resurrected this show, although it had three second

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Speaker 2: grade scenes then, but you have breathed new life into

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Speaker 2: this just by being yourself.

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Speaker 1: Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 2: Your name came up every single episode this season, starting

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Speaker 2: with episode one. I want to go backwards to baby

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Speaker 2: explain to us, how did you get in contact with

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Speaker 3: To begin with, I always follow you know, new housewives

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you experienced that too. You know, you're very popular.

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Speaker 3: that's great. People are thinking I'm saying as a negative thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I think that's awesome. And so, you know,

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Speaker 3: she writes, you know, I'm honored. I write back, looking

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Speaker 3: little rapport. I do host Reality Check on Radio Andy.

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Speaker 2: So you reach out to Katie Jen, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: that leaves you and Katie to have a one on one.

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Speaker 2: same setting where she talked to you about what Gretchen

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Speaker 2: the same setting.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was all that same day. Yes, And again

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Speaker 3: it wasn't coming out and I made that very clear.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, that's crazy, But you hear I

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Speaker 3: And we just had banters, you know, we'd send tiktoks

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Speaker 3: because in January. Again, this is months later. I've sat

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Speaker 3: it on October, November, December. If I was messy, I'd

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Speaker 2: So just so I'm clear, your one on one with

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Speaker 2: Katie happened October of twenty twenty four. Correct, okay, And

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Speaker 2: before we get into what happened in January, just to

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Speaker 2: Clear the air, to stay out of your own mouth, unedited, uninterrupted.

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Speaker 2: What did Katie say to you about naked Wasted?

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Speaker 1: And what Gretchen allegedly said to her at dinner?

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Speaker 2: Okay, to stop you there, did she tell you that

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Speaker 2: Okay, did did she intimate to you that Gretchen was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, while you were talking to her, did you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because one thing I know, Look, I got said

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had no interest in doing anything with that information.

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Speaker 3: When Katie texted me at the end of February, I

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Speaker 3: to New York. Like three weeks later, two three weeks later,

431
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: I'm at a party and I get reached out to

432
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: by Orange County producers and they're like, so, your name

433
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: has been repeatedly brought up on camera and you know,

434
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 3: and basically that was how they reached out. And so

435
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: at that point, I'm just like and basically what I

436
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: learned was like, my name was brought up on camera

437
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 3: and we're basically being told that you're spreading something that

438
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: was not told to you. It's not the truth. And

439
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: that's when I freak out because I'm like, one, I

440
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: didn't want to be involved in this, but two, I

441
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 3: have kind of two options at this point, like let

442
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 3: this narrative play out and I don't know what that means,

443
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 3: or they're given me the opportunity, which honestly I'm grateful

444
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: for because not a lot of people give this opportunity

445
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 3: to try to clear my name. And so I agree

446
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 3: to film, and that's pretty much it.

447
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: When you agree to film, did the producers tell you

448
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: you are filming with Gretchen and Gina, because I'm assuming

449
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: you would have. I don't know if thought or would

450
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: have been positioned wanted to. I'm not clear some with

451
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: Katie since the information came from her, So how did

452
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: that come about.

453
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: I believe they wanted me to film with just Gretchen

454
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 3: and what I said to them, and I don't even

455
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: know if I'm but whatever, I'm going to say it

456
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 3: because people may not understand I was only supposed to

457
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: film with Gretchen and I said, look, there were three

458
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: people at this dinner. Gretchen and Katie were two of them.

459
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how comfortable I feel only filming with

460
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 3: Gretchen because this is someone who was also part of

461
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: the story. I would feel more comfortable if someone else

462
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: was there. And this is okay, and this is where

463
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 3: and again, this maybe been the messy part, but this

464
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: was the only way I thought I could clear my name.

465
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: I said, I have a piece of information also from

466
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: that lunch that nobody else would know and would prove

467
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: that this information was told to me. I would rather

468
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: her be there, and I'd rather tell her there in

469
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: that moment what was said, because honestly, I feel like

470
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 3: if I say it to her face, I'll know also

471
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: if there's any truth to that story. And so I

472
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: was really the one that pushed for Gina to be there.

473
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: Got it. Now, let me go back a little bit.

474
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: The time you landed in New York, when Katie text you,

475
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: to the time that the producers contacted you. Did you

476
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: and Katie ever have a conversation during that window?

477
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: I never heard from her again, And like, again, that's

478
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: why I kind of thought, like, this won't be a thing.

479
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: I had no idea, And in the time that I

480
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 3: was in New York, they had gone to New Orleans

481
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: and all that stuff that we see playing out had happened.

482
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: She never contacted me, told me any of that happened.

483
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: I had no clue any of that had gone down,

484
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: which is why again, while I'm watching it, it's shocking

485
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 3: because I'm thinking, well, girl, you could have like reached

486
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: out to me and said, like, you know, they're saying

487
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 3: your name, they're saying I said this to you, But

488
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: I never heard from her again after that day. I

489
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: had no clue how deep it had gone in New Orleans.

490
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: When you got the cop on the producers, did you

491
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: have any communication with Katie before the scene with Gretchen

492
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: and Gina or even afterwards.

493
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 3: I hadn't talked to no. I mean I never heard

494
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: from from Katie ever. Ever, again I did, like I

495
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: did speak with Gretchen. Oh well, I kind of spoke

496
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: with Gretchen only because again when this came out, now

497
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: Gretchen has reached out turn Sheena Shee, who I'm good

498
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: friends with Seena. Se are friends, and so then Sheena

499
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: because Gretchen's like, who is this person Kiki Monique who's

500
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: saying spreading these things about me? Because Gretchen at this point,

501
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: Gretchen thinks I'm just like some again crazy blogger who's

502
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: just spreading rumors about her. But she knows that I'm

503
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 3: friends with Sheena, so she's trying to like get to

504
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: the bottom. And I said, look, look, I want nothing

505
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: to do with this, like I promise you, like I

506
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: wasn't trying to like spread rumors, like I was just

507
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: trying to get to the bottom of whether the story

508
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: was real. Because also she is looking at me crazy,

509
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: like girl, like this is you know, like the whole

510
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: thing was like I was like, I want nothing to

511
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: do with this. This was not the opposite of what

512
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: my intention. Is happening right now.

513
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this because obviously you watch

514
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: the season. In the episode, just like we all have.

515
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Right, they're in New Orleans the OC Housewives, and this

516
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: conversation does come up where you know, they talk about

517
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: whether or not Gretchen said these things once again. The

518
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 2: housewives call Katie to the carpet and they say, well,

519
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: call her, and Katie said she does not want to film.

520
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: Is did Katie ever contact you? Well, you know when

521
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: she contacted you, was that when you were on the

522
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: plane or was that after the fact.

523
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: Now, I was literally like all the tarmac about to

524
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 3: take off, so all of that conversation happened. So I

525
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: did respond to her. She reached out. She asked me

526
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: if I wanted to film. I didn't say yes or no.

527
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: I was again in shock. I was like, question mark

528
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: exclamation point, what is this about? What am I filming about?

529
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: What do you talk she wants? Because she wanted me

530
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: to get on the phone at five pm that day

531
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: to film something, but she wasn't telling me what it

532
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: was about. And I'm just like, but what is it about?

533
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: In New Orleans? So she went to New almost when

534
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: she text.

535
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: This was February twenty eighth. I got that text and

536
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: they didn't go to hold from March.

537
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's cause you know we're getting somewhere here.

538
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: Katie texts you they want you to film in February.

539
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: February twenty eighth is when I got the text.

540
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: They found New Orleans in March. So when they said

541
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: reach out to her and she said she doesn't want

542
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: to film. She never contacted you at all while she

543
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: was in New Orleans.

544
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: No, I never heard from her again after February twenty eighth.

545
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: When you saw that moment, do you think again.

546
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: I don't know Katie from a can of paint, right,

547
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: But I just I'm basing my opinions on her, like

548
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: me and the audience watching the show.

549
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: But when you saw that scene in New Orleans, did

550
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: you feel like.

551
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: Katie was talking about you or her texting a month before,

552
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: or did you look at that say, oh my gosh,

553
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: Katie's line once again?

554
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: No, I looked at it is she was sort of

555
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: telling half truth. I think that's like she said. I

556
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: think she was saying I reached out her, She's not interested,

557
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: which is true. I was absolutely not because I did

558
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: not get back, okay, But what wasn't true was saying

559
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: she never responded. Because that wasn't true. I responded and

560
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: I asked you what it was about, and you said

561
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: you didn't know, So that part wasn't true because I

562
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: if again I wanted to know, because if she once

563
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: she knew that this was all being brought out, I

564
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: do think again, I had been a really good friend

565
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: to her at that point. I think it would have

566
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: made sense for her to just be honest with me

567
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: and actually confront me and be like, girl, did you

568
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: go tell people about this? Because then you know, like

569
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: I would have been like, well, damn, like I did,

570
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: but like I was trying to like squash the story

571
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: because you know, but you know, like but I would

572
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: have felt yeah, I would have felt bad.

573
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So look, it's one of those

574
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: things too. Where and listen, this is me being in

575
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: the scene. And it's the reason why I make sure

576
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: as much as I can to not involve myself in

577
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: the sort of ragamuffin of the telephone game, because it

578
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: is tricky as dicey, based on this era of reality

579
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: television and social media and contact and people being in

580
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: contact with radio hosts, journalists, bloggers, anyone, because unfortunately it

581
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: does now become part of the storyline. When you received

582
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: that phone call for production and you did the scene

583
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: with Gretchen and Gina, when you left the scene, did

584
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: you feel like, oh fuck, what did I just get

585
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: myself into?

586
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: Did I just ruin my career?

587
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: I mean I think I felt that way from the moment,

588
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: I you know, even before I filmed, because I'm thinking, like,

589
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: I don't know how to navigate out of this, because

590
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: you know, my this is my brand, you know, and

591
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: like it's yeah, it's fun to be called quote gossip girl,

592
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: but nobody wants to think that they can't have conversations

593
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 3: with you that aren't going to be taken elsewhere. And

594
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: so that was the part that was really hurting me

595
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: because I felt like I was in this position where

596
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: I didn't put myself in this position. I didn't go

597
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: to a housewife. I didn't try to involve myself, and

598
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to bring this to camera, but someone

599
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: I trusted did and you know, it hit me in

600
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: the ass?

601
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Are you and the journalist friends today? Have y'all talked

602
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: about this?

603
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, like I don't. I'm not

604
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: someone who likes to carry grudges, but you know, I

605
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: haven't heard from him, So I don't know.

606
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: When you saw Gretchen and Gina's reaction in real time

607
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: in that moment, Keikey, at that table you told this information,

608
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: you saw the reaction, Did you believe that they were

609
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: telling me the truth?

610
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: What I believed was when Gina told me her explanation

611
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: and that sounded like it made sense. And Gina has been,

612
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: you know ever since, like I've met her, you know,

613
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: I've seen her again, like she's been really kind and

614
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: so like I don't really feel like I have any

615
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: reason to like hold you know, hold that against her.

616
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: What I will say is in this, I mean not

617
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: to you know, hate on you know all reality stars.

618
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: All reality stars are like fibbers liars. It's it's like

619
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: it's kind of like built into their DNA. Sometimes it's

620
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: like they were just like exaggerating, exaggerating the truth or

621
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: like doing this. I don't know sometimes who's lying and

622
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: who's telling the truth. What I was trying to get

623
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: to at this point was I just want you guys

624
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: to know that I'm telling the truth so I can

625
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 3: back away and then you guys can fight amongst yourselves

626
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: about who's the liars and who's not, because like I

627
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: just want to like remove myself and just put it

628
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: out there and then back away. I don't know, Like

629
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: I think that there's multiple theories that could be true.

630
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: I just don't know, because again, it's hard for me

631
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: now when only one person keeps basically calling me a

632
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: liar to side with them, even right because you know

633
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: you're like, even have wanted to decide with you, you're still

634
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: calling me a liar, So then how can I side

635
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: you know, well, calling you Katie by saying she never

636
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: told me repeatedly over So it's like, if you just

637
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: admitted it, then like maybe we could get somewhere. But

638
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: I just don't know why she won't admit it.

639
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing.

640
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Look, I appreciate you for being completely honest.

641
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: No one's perfect.

642
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: You have opted your mistake to be seen as somebody

643
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: who's honest about it.

644
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Right. You're like, look, we had a conversation.

645
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: I knew that it wasn't something that I should go

646
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: back and tell people, but I did tell a trusted journalist.

647
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Listen.

648
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: We've all done that, right, And for you, you just

649
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, this is something that I want to

650
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: share with somebody.

651
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: I will say. What I do want the world to

652
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: know is this.

653
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: It's one thing if key Ki Monique on her big

654
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: platform told Derinda, O.

655
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: Girl, guess what I heard. I heard. It's something that

656
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: to me would be different.

657
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: It would be different if you use your platform like.

658
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: Other people do. And that's that's O shame. Where we listen.

659
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: We all have our platform that works for our brand.

660
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: I've been listening to you for years.

661
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: You never based on my listening skill. Intimated secret conversations

662
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: for virality, right, and and and that.

663
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: Was the one thing I've really understood immediately.

664
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: Like, I think people are missing the fact that you

665
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: did not go on your own platform or on in

666
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: one's platform and publicly said this. You had an intimate conversation,

667
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: it got out, but knows to to to you even

668
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: knowing you would. And I think people also need to

669
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: understand this too. You are employed by Radio Andy, who

670
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: works obviously connection with Bravo, you know, Like I think

671
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: people need to understand that you're not somebody that is

672
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: just out there looking for the come up. You're employed

673
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: by Radio Andy, associated with Bravo, meeting the Angy Cohen obviously,

674
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: and they called you and you wanted to do your

675
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: due diligence.

676
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: That's what I got from it. You could stop me

677
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: if I got it wrong.

678
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: K K, that's the true because that's the thing I mean.

679
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: I think even Katie said herself, she followed me for

680
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: my true crime content. Obviously, if I hear something that

681
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: sounds criminal, I'm sorry. Like, if I feel a reason

682
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: that it needs to be investigated, I'm going to be

683
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: it needs to be investigated. And I did feel like

684
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 3: at the time once Stretchen was announced she was coming back.

685
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: If there was any truth to the story, I needed

686
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: to investigate and find out if the story was true, period,

687
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: like I and I was never going to publish it

688
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: on my platform unless I found there was You know,

689
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: I had a toxicology report that proved, you know, this

690
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: actually did happen.

691
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you owe Katie an apology for

692
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: having an intimate conversation and you did go and tell

693
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: somebody else.

694
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: I would say that, yes, I would apologize because the

695
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: minute I decided to put on my true crime reporter

696
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: hat and take it to investigate, I should have said, oh, girl,

697
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: I know you told me the story. I wasn't gonna

698
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: do anything with it, but I do want to investigate it.

699
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: I'm not going to publish it. And I should have

700
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: given her the heads up that that was my plan

701
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: and that was the one thing I should have done.

702
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

703
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: Based on you watching these episodes, do you feel like

704
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: when it comes to Katie again, I'm basing my opinion

705
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: on Katie off of the episodes I'm watching with the audience. Obviously,

706
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Katie the biggest mistake to me, and this is me

707
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 2: speaking as a producer who produced for twenty years.

708
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: Right, almost once your hand is caught.

709
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: In the cookie jar, unfortunately, you have to own it immediately,

710
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: and it's just something you have to do.

711
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel good and it's tough, but you signed

712
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: up to be real and we want you to be real.

713
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: Do you think when it comes to Katie that she

714
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: just has a problem with owning the truth in the

715
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: moment because she's afraid of the media backlass on the girls,

716
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: or do you think just Katie is just a flat

717
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: out liar and this sociopath that she's being painted out

718
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: to be by the by some of the girls and

719
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: some of the viewers.

720
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: I mean, before I probably would have just assumed that

721
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: she was like scared to get caught. Recently, it's felt

722
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: very like pathological because I'm just like this, this feels

723
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: unnecessary that the lengths we're going Now, I think it's

724
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: like she's at a point because what we know is

725
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: like it doesn't really matter what she does, her fans

726
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: will side with her. So now I think she knows

727
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: she can lean into saying whatever she wants truth or otherwise,

728
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: and her fans will make gymnastics to, you know, find

729
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: a way to like back her up. So I don't know.

730
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: I think it's I honestly, I can't even tell you.

731
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: I don't even know anymore because the person that I

732
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: met is not the person that I've experienced recently.

733
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: Do you have any intentions of going on Watch What

734
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: Happens Live this season?

735
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Well, the thing is, I've been on

736
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: Watch What Happens Live as a bartender twice, and I've

737
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: always whenever I go, I'm like, when am I going

738
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: to get on the chair. So it's not like beyond

739
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: the realm of me being like, you know, Andy Cohen

740
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: is my boss, like I you know, it's not like

741
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 3: I can't. I obviously always a'm like, hey, guys, I'm

742
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: going to be in New York like but like yeah,

743
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: but not because it's not it's something I do.

744
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: You should be all.

745
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: I want to see you there all the THURSD night.

746
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the head of the brow. I do want

747
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: to actually, before I let you go, you're a busy woman.

748
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: But before I let you go, I do want to

749
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: ask you this. You're watching the episodes like we are,

750
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: based on you watching the episodes and based on your

751
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: interaction with Katie Face to face, Gina face to face,

752
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Gretchen face to face, Thum and even Jen right just

753
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: being in communication with her on via zoom. What does

754
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: Keky Monique believe put on your true crime hat, put

755
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: on your producer hat, put on the.

756
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: Hat of a woman who's been around these girls.

757
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 2: Do you believe that Gretchen told Katie that she allegedly

758
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: did get drug the night of nacker Wasted while she

759
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: was at dinner with Katie.

760
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: The only reason I'm going to give you two answers,

761
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: but I will answer. The reason I will say no

762
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: was because again, when I got back my initial information

763
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: and the information that I gathered, which I actually think

764
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: I said on camera, but they didn't play because there

765
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: was more to like it made sense, it didn't make

766
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: sense that she said it, and so I was like,

767
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 3: I feel like she didn't say it. But what I

768
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: do believe is that naked wasted absolutely came up at

769
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 3: that dinner. I believe the word hospital was absolutely used. Now,

770
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: whether someone heard hospital and made assumptions about why would

771
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 3: you go to the hospital and ran with it, or

772
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: whether they heard something specifically about being in the hospital,

773
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 3: that's the part I don't know, but I do believe

774
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: the word hospital is used at that dinner, and I

775
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: do believe naked wasted came up.

776
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeahh no.

777
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: Me and Alexis Malino even conversed about this on this

778
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: very podcast about whether or not the assumption of hospital

779
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: equated to maybe Katie thinking she was drugged, which listen

780
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: in Katie's offence, I will understand because you're only going

781
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: to the hospital, you feel like I'm assuming you felt

782
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: drugged or whatever. And look, Gretchen is caught on camera

783
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: mentioning the hospital twice, so it is it is plausible,

784
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: and that's why my theory is, I believe Gretchen did

785
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: tell Katie the hospital. I do believe that Katie may

786
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: have misinterpret interpreted, misinterpreted. I don't know, but that's what

787
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: I gather from it, which is why for me, I

788
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: think they both have been caught lying. I think Katie

789
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: has obviously been seen as somebody that says no, no, no,

790
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: no no.

791
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: Then the next episode.

792
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 2: Says, okay, I actually did do this right, And I

793
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: think because Gretchen got caught saying hospital twice, I do

794
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: believe you that the hospital thing was used again, whether

795
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: or not the word Ruth the drug was used. I

796
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: think will have to keep watching the season to to,

797
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: you know, hopefully find out that answer.

798
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Kickim on Nique, what would you like.

799
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: To say to the Bravo audience to the rain drops

800
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: when it comes to you are are you okay?

801
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: Have you been bullied online?

802
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: Have people been mean to you in your DMS and comments?

803
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, am I getting bullied? Absolutely? And like

804
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: have I just had to sort of like ignore it

805
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: and walk away, of course, And like, well, will I

806
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: always have this permanent stain attached to me because of this? Absolutely?

807
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 3: But you know you can't. I can't let that stop

808
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 3: my progress, you know, like I'm going to keep moving on.

809
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: You know, I have like rebuilding with you know, the

810
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: people that I care about in this industry the most,

811
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: people like you and the other people I have they

812
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: know me, and so I'm glad that I haven't ruined

813
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: those relationships because again, like all you have in this

814
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: business is your reputation, and I obviously care what obviously

815
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: followers and people out there who are viewing me, and

816
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: this might be the first introduction they have for me,

817
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: you know, is this show?

818
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: You know?

819
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: And so I have rebuilding to do and whether I'll

820
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: ever get it with a lot of people, I don't know.

821
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully the bullying were tempered down, because look, we have

822
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: a whole other half a season to go. I'm hoping

823
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: that there's way more drama that is less interesting than me,

824
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: and then other people will start getting bullied. But you know,

825
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: I will say that, like I know, also other women

826
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: on the show are now getting bullied, and you know,

827
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's fair because you know, I've

828
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: met now, I've met a lot of these women and

829
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, they're all they're all cool,

830
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, and you're cool.

831
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: And look, I'll before I let you go, I do

832
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: want to remind the audience of this. You haven't held

833
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: yourself accountable, right you have said. Look, I apologize to

834
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: Katie because at the end of the day, she did

835
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: tell me something that I should not have repeated to people,

836
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: and you admitted that that was a mistake for you.

837
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: So I do want to be honest to understand that

838
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: you're not here doubling down on the fact we all

839
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: make mistakes.

840
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: I think the lesson in this is not just.

841
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: For yous, for me, for everybody that when it comes

842
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: to sometimes reality stars confiding in you, you do have

843
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: to sometimes ask yourself, am I being told this?

844
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: To release it?

845
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: Or you do Sometime I have to say I don't

846
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: or or sometimes stop and say, look, I don't want

847
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: to talk about any rumor or being heard because I

848
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: don't want my name mentioned. And I'm learning from this

849
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 2: situation that comes to you as well that look, maybe

850
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 2: sometimes it is our job, Kikim mo Onnique to even

851
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: tell reality stars, you know what, I don't.

852
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: Want to hear it. Yeah, if I just, I just

853
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: I just do not.

854
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: Want to hear it because what I don't want is

855
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: why I only told this person and then you become

856
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: the story. So look, guys, give Ki Monique a break,

857
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: cut her some slack.

858
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: She's not the first, nor would she be the last.

859
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: But I think for all of us at the end

860
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: of day, this is what this is where we can

861
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: we can rally together rain drops and Bravo listeners and

862
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: audiences and say, at least we got a good fucking

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Speaker 2: season out of it because I've enjoying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want people to at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: like if I was not a part of this, I

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Speaker 3: would literally I was like I literally could sit outside

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Speaker 3: of myself and be like laughing about this is like

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Speaker 3: how crazy it is and ridiculous And at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, it's just a show. And I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people need to like go touch grass

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Speaker 3: and then come back and watch your show. But it's

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Speaker 3: not that serious. Okay, Katie's thriving, She's getting more followers

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Speaker 3: by the day. This is not hurting her at all.

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Speaker 3: She'll be okay. I promise you, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: You'll be okay. I want to know you'll be okay.

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Speaker 2: This too shall pass. Listen, it's tough, and listen. One

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Speaker 2: thing I will say is this, at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, you will be in the history books with people. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I can always fight things so like small a because

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Speaker 2: it ain't that serious, like it's reality Television's silly, it'sa whatever.

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Speaker 2: When it comes in season nineteen, just know you will

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Speaker 2: go down in the history books as the most talked

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Speaker 2: about person next to Katie Janella.

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Speaker 1: Like, I just want you to know that.

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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, these are great

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Speaker 2: stories that you can have off the record at dinner.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I am. I will say the only thing I do,

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Speaker 3: like I am questioning is like, you know, I know

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Speaker 3: that there was a source in my I did US Weekly.

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Speaker 3: I you know I talked about this in US Weekly

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Speaker 3: and in that at the end of it, there was

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Speaker 3: something about, like, there's more to this Kiky story that

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Speaker 3: you don't know, and I'm like, is there what do

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Speaker 3: I know?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: I'm concerned? Are you trying to drag me into season twenty?

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Speaker 3: Please don't.

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Speaker 1: Well, girl, listen, give your phone off top. I have

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Speaker 1: to call you back.

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Speaker 2: Girl.

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Speaker 1: You're still mentioned it sement.

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Speaker 2: Just know that, but they also aside Kiki on Nique,

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Speaker 2: please let the rain drops and know where they can

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Speaker 2: find you. Follow you and support your amazing radio.

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Speaker 1: Show, Reality Check with Derenda Medley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you can always follow me on all platforms.

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Speaker 3: At the Talk of Shame, I'm obviously TikTok and IG

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Speaker 3: are my two platforms that are my favorite, and weekdays

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Speaker 3: on radio and y Reality Check with Derenda Medley, we

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Speaker 3: talk about all things reality.

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Speaker 2: Yay. Thank you, Nique, and listen, girl, I will see

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Speaker 2: you or hear your name on the next episode of

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Speaker 2: O See.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I Love you.

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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Speaker 2: produced by Lizzie Nimitz and a partnership with.

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