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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We're here to

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Speaker 1: give you the Castle vibes. Check. This is what my uncle,

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Speaker 1: my cousin Avid listeners. They text me every day and

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Speaker 1: Give me the vibes check at the castle here. It

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Speaker 1: is all right. So today we heard from the Ravens

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Speaker 1: a the first media session before the AFC Championship game

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Speaker 1: this Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs at M and

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Speaker 1: T Bank Stadium at three pm. We excited to say

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Speaker 1: at I don't know just about the whole thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're in the AFC Championship, Like, bring your own energy,

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Speaker 1: b yoe. Okay, I'm pumped. And so we heard from

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Speaker 1: the players and from a head coach Sean Harwall for

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Speaker 1: the first time this week, and so we wanted to

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Speaker 1: check in and just kind of tell you what what

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Speaker 1: we're hearing, what's going on behind the scenes here, and

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Speaker 1: what players are talking about. So first things first, I

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Speaker 1: think you know, one thing is just kind of how

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Speaker 1: what's the Ravens mental entering this game? You have the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs who go in the sixth straight AFC Championships you

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Speaker 1: have the Ravens, who during the Lamar Jackson era, are

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Speaker 1: going to their first right and it's just kind of

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Speaker 1: interesting to hear how the Ravens are approaching this game mentally.

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Speaker 2: Well. I think the big thing, the quote that stood

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Speaker 2: out to me and I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: today was from Lamar Jackson, who said, to be a champion,

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what we talked about, and he said

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Speaker 1: that was kind of the mentality this week for them.

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Speaker 2: That was the mentality for the scene, and that's exactly

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Speaker 2: what we talked about on Monday when this matchup was set.

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Speaker 2: You know, basically that the Chiefs are the team that's

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Speaker 2: been there through the media, Darling in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: They've won two with Mahomes and Andy Reid and Travis Kelcey,

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens want to get there. They've been standing

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Speaker 2: in the Ravens way in a lot of ways, even

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Speaker 2: though these teams have never actually met in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: but the Chiefs have been to where the Ravens are

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Speaker 2: trying to go, and so they're not shying away from

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Speaker 2: that or ignoring that fact. I think that they're embracing it,

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Speaker 2: and they're basically saying that was the theme that was

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Speaker 2: consistent to me, and hearing from Lamar, roquad Smith and

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Speaker 1: Well, roquand kind of of I asked him that question

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Speaker 1: whether going against the former champions brought any extra sizzle,

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Speaker 1: any extra buzz to this matchup, and he kind of

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Speaker 1: that it's it's it's kind of quan talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also don't know that it's I don't

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Speaker 2: know that it's extra like I don't And his point,

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Speaker 2: which I'm totally I agree with, Like, basically, this is

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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship, right, the fact that it's the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean any more to me.

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Speaker 1: Basically, his his whole thing is if you don't get

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Speaker 1: up for this game, what are you doing? Exactly Like,

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Speaker 1: you don't need any extra extra motivation in this game. No,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who the opponent is SAFC Championship. Now,

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Speaker 1: I do think that, like Lamar said, the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're going against the defending champs adds to it. That

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Speaker 1: is something I'm sure that's being mentioned, you know, talked

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Speaker 1: that hey, you know, we think we're the best team

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Speaker 1: prove it, you got to beat the best. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got to beat the champs. And so that is definitely

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Speaker 1: a feeling inside the under Arm Performance Center this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought it was just interesting to hear Lamar

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Speaker 2: say that and not surprising, but I think that, like, look,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs have been I think it was Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 2: they have been the of the last six years. They've

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Speaker 2: been the dynasty. Yeah, and so this is like the

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Speaker 2: time that you have to knock.

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Speaker 1: Them off that perch. Well, and this matchup feels like

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time in the making. Like you

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Speaker 1: you know, we were all anticipated that this would this

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Speaker 1: and like so like We've just been robbed of this

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Speaker 1: matchup in the playoffs. They've met four times in the

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Speaker 1: regular season, the Chiefs have won three. The Ravens won

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Speaker 1: the most, the latest installment thirty six to thirty five

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Speaker 1: got all the all the marbles on the line here,

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Speaker 1: what's the saying here? What I can never get put

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Speaker 1: all the marbles at the center of the table. Is

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Speaker 1: that it? Now?

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Speaker 2: I just you're mixing all of them there it is

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Speaker 2: in the center of the table, all the ships.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's really my achilles heel. I can never get a saying, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: just just you mix them all time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I'm an innovator, blend. So so anyway, for

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Speaker 1: all the marbles, like, this is the game that we've

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of there was so much

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Speaker 2: talk about Chiefs Bills even after the game leading into

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Speaker 2: the game that was really the marquee game of last weekend.

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Speaker 2: And part of the reason that that game, I think

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Speaker 2: has been so elevated is because they've played big games

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. They had that unforgettable games years ago,

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Speaker 2: they had the big game this year, like those teams

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Speaker 2: have played playoff games. So I think that I think

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Speaker 2: that the Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes AFC Championship matchup is

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Speaker 2: the perfect AFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's the next point that I wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Is Lamar Jackson talking about Patrick Mahomes, and

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Speaker 1: I asked him the question, you know, what do you

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Speaker 1: like about going against Patrick Mahomes basically, and he laughed

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Speaker 1: and said, I don't really like anything about going against

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, but then you know, said that he's for sure,

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Speaker 1: no doubt Hall of Famer, And then I thought gave

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Speaker 1: a really interesting quote. He said he look a lot

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Speaker 1: of times these players will say, well, I'm not playing

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Speaker 1: against Patrick Mahomes, I'm going against the defense and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But he said, yeah, this is too up and coming

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Speaker 1: you know, MVPs in this league, and I see it

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Speaker 1: as a heavyweight fight. And so he understands the narrative

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Speaker 1: around this game, and that's it's Lamar Jackson versus Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: That's what everybody's going to be talking about now in

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Speaker 1: the classroom, Lamar Jackson is studying the Chiefs defense all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. But like, let's not kidd ourselves here, and

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Speaker 1: Lamar knows that these two have been two of the

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Speaker 1: on the on the highest stakes for the AFC Championship,

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Speaker 1: Let's see who wins this. Like I said, Mahomes has

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Speaker 1: a two time MVP. Lamar is going to be a

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Speaker 1: difference between the two is Patrick Mahomes is a two

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Speaker 1: time Super Bowl winner and that's where that's where Lamar

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Speaker 1: and so he knows now he's got to beat Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: It all comes back to that, that narrative, Like it

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Speaker 2: all comes back to that. I think you can do

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Speaker 2: it from a team standpoint. The Chiefs have been the

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Speaker 2: team that's there and you read Patrick Mahomes Travis Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: that team has been there. They have They've made themselves

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Speaker 2: quite comfortable in the AFC Championship round and typically further

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Speaker 2: than that, they've gone to three Super Bowls, they won

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Speaker 2: two of them. And on the individual level the quarterback matchup,

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Speaker 2: Mahomes has been the guy that's been there. And as

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Speaker 2: you just mentioned, Lamar talks about how he's already a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. If Lamar goes and wins this game,

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Speaker 2: then he's probably a Hall of Famer alreck, you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, certainly in the thick of the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, already at that's such a young age tact and

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Speaker 2: so like, I think that that big picture discussion applies

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Speaker 2: and I think that that's just like that is the

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Speaker 1: And this is a historic matchup in regards to that,

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Speaker 1: that Mahomes versus Jackson matchup, because it's the first time

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Speaker 1: that two quarterbacks who are former MVPs and both under

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Speaker 1: You've had, you know, Peyton Manning versus Tom Brady and that,

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Speaker 1: but when you're talking about it's hard to describe them

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Speaker 1: as up and coming. Lamar and Pat Mames, two time MVPs,

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Speaker 1: They're young prime or early prime, whatever however you want

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Speaker 1: to describe it. Meeting up like this, It's never happened.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the best quarterback matchups in NFL

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Speaker 1: playoff history that we're gonna witness on Sunday. It's pretty cool. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like, this is an NFL fans dream.

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Speaker 2: These two teams, I mean, the two of the most

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Speaker 2: And when you, I know, you talked earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: and I understand this line of thinking, like you basically

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Speaker 2: want the weakest opponent the whole way through, you know.

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Speaker 1: But you know, but as a football fan get the

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Speaker 1: more I'm like, you know what, yeah, like sure, sure,

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Speaker 1: I kind of. I don't know. I just feel different

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Speaker 1: all for that. But at the same time, like if.

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Speaker 2: You if you do knock off, if you do slay

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Speaker 2: There's no asterisk, so you know any of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I know, you're like, I don't care, so asterisk on

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Speaker 2: my super bowling. I get that line of thinking. I

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Speaker 2: get that, but I also think that when you have

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Speaker 2: a chance to go up against the best team that's

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Speaker 2: been there, and you you have this opportunity to knock

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Speaker 2: like rooting interest as a fan of the game, seeing

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Speaker 2: these two teams and these two quarterbacks face off is

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Speaker 2: the type of thing that I think everybody can get behind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. What's interesting about Lamar versus Pat Mahomes too

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Speaker 1: is you know, you can talk about the history and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Well, they're two different quarterbacks, two different teams,

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Speaker 1: with different weapons around them. Lamar's weapons certainly have improved.

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes a couple of years ago lost Ty Hill,

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Speaker 1: So it's different, right, and they're going against two different defenses. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: So all the history kind of goes out the window.

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Speaker 1: These are two quarterbacks who are playing really well. Now.

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Speaker 1: Lamar has had a career season, right, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: thrown for the most yards in his career. He still

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Speaker 1: leads the Ravens and rushing yards, while Pat Mahomes this

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Speaker 1: It's the second fewest passing yards of his career since

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Speaker 1: he became a starter in twenty eighteen. So Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: still had a really good year. But when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about career trajectories and where they're at right now, Lamar's

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Speaker 1: arrow has been solidly up this year, whereas Mahomes has

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Speaker 1: been a little shakeyer. Yeah, right, Mahomes has thrown almost

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Speaker 1: twice as many interceptions this year as Lamar has. Right,

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Speaker 1: So I say all this to be like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't put I honestly don't put much stock in

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Speaker 1: And that was early in that season. I think that

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Speaker 1: just to the larger storyline of Look, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the stats, Patrick Mahomes outplayed Lamar Jackson in this match. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go through those games. Twenty eighteen. It was Lamar

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Speaker 2: And that one went down to the wire and that

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Speaker 2: was the crazy fourth down Tyreek kill players beat them, right,

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Speaker 2: should have beat him? Okay, So the next one, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: The end of that year. Going into that game in

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Speaker 2: Was Kansas City kind of handled them in that game,

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Speaker 2: but again it was early in that season. The Ravens

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Speaker 2: were still kind of finding their way. They had changed

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinators, they were really becoming established. Twenty twenty year

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Speaker 1: That was Patt Homes was rained and touchdowns that day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just we just skipped that one. And then

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, one of the best.

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Speaker 1: Games Pat Homes has ever played, probably his career. I

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Speaker 1: remember walking away from that game being like, this guy,

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Speaker 1: is I just witnessed a Hall of Fame performance. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then twenty twenty one the Ravens won, and that

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Speaker 1: That was the o'daffe o way. You can slice it

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Speaker 1: anyway you want. I got the stats right here. I

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Speaker 1: mean the stats. Patrick Mahomes is like dominated statistically in

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Speaker 2: He has, but like again twenty eighteen, Lamar's first roadstart

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, it's the short here as a starter, Like put.

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Speaker 1: All those qualifiers on it, and all that's fair. All

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Speaker 1: that's fair. I don't even know. We just got done

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Speaker 1: saying the history doesn't matter. Now we're going into the gritty.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to just talk about saying. The larger picture

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Speaker 1: all right, Lamar gets a chance. Like Lamar's playing at

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't be still Pat Mahomes, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I would push back on the notion that he's not

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Speaker 1: So he didn't have these weapons last year. He didn't

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Speaker 1: have Tyreek Hill last year also, and he threw for

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Speaker 1: a thousand more yards and way fewer. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I'm not jumping on your I'm not jumping on your

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs wagons the Chiefs offense for large chunks this year.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was like, what's the wrong with the Chiefs offense? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, are we just gonna gloss overy there? I

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Speaker 1: this room is disrespecting Pat Mahomes. You are, He's a

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Speaker 1: great you are. No, I'm just saying harrows wending down,

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Speaker 1: just saying it's been more uneven for Pat Mahomes this year.

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Speaker 1: If you can't say that, then you're not watching the game.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think that if you're watching the games,

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Speaker 2: If you're watching the games, if you're watching the games,

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Speaker 2: they've had major drop issues. They changed offensive coordinators this year.

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey is a year older and is not as

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Speaker 1: You're throwing shade at Travis Kelsey. I think, here we go.

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Speaker 2: No, I think Kelsey is great, but he's not as

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Speaker 1: Oh so I'm not allowed to say Mahomes has had

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Speaker 2: I got I think no, no, no, no, I think Kelsey

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Speaker 2: I think is still a really good player.

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Speaker 1: And I think that he is.

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Speaker 2: I think that their offense is not as is their

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Speaker 2: offense as a whole is not as good as it

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Speaker 2: was two years ago. And I but I don't think that.

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Speaker 2: I think that Mahomes is still playing as just as high,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're just saying it's on everybody else, not Hose. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's fine. Yes, I don't think. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to say I do not think it's Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, that is perfectly fine, But I do not

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Speaker 1: think it's him. Back to the point is that Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: in this head to head matchup with Pat Mahomes, has

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Speaker 1: a chance to be like, you know what, the better

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I do get that.

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Speaker 2: It's like I think that there is the and Lamar

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Speaker 2: is always the first to say, like it's not me

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Speaker 1: That but defenses are really good I don't think. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't know if at the after this game

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Speaker 2: know that will necessarily be the native.

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Speaker 1: Sure, both are both are awesome, but you get to

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Speaker 1: say I beat you on the in the NFC Championship boom, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the Trump guard in the in the head to

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Speaker 2: Think I think the bigger difference, the reason I feel

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Speaker 2: the fact that Lamar would want to have this one

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Speaker 1: Like, I think the defense is more motivated to show

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Speaker 1: I don't think Lamar cares about the one up on

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes at all. Literally doesn't care about that one iota. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's just a cool storyline for the rest of us

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Speaker 1: in this game. Lamar doesn't care about that. He has

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Speaker 1: respect for Pat Mahomes said, he's all famer, yeah, all

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Speaker 1: want to stop Pat Mahomes. And again, hearing from Rokwan

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Speaker 1: you have to respect maat Mahomes. He's been one of

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Speaker 1: But the Ravens defense, as expected, still walking with their

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Speaker 1: Smith said at point blank, yeah, he's an elite quarterback

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Speaker 2: That's how they've carried themselves all year long. So I

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Speaker 2: I think that, like, I think that the defense really

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Speaker 2: our game, we can shut down anybody, and that includes

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Speaker 1: I think that's the way that this defense feels. Yep.

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Speaker 2: you want to be the one that shows up and

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Speaker 2: I think that that's the way that this defense is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean Patrick Mahomes, like Lamar, is

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Speaker 1: He does it. He runs in a very different way

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Speaker 1: Roquan Smith made it very clear. He said Patrick Mahomes. Hey, man,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just not how they carried themselves. I just

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Speaker 1: All year long and this is the biggest stage against

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that like they they are relishing it.

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Speaker 2: I think they relished the opportunity. Yep, And that's what

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Speaker 2: That's what Kyle said and said.

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Speaker 1: I thought that Roquan's quote about Isambh Checko was particularly noteworthy.

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Speaker 1: When he was asked about him, Rokuan kind of smiled

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Speaker 1: he's full go. Well I go full full go too,

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Speaker 1: And uh, when we meet, you know, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: We have We have an episode of Wired that's dropping

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Speaker 2: tonight where Roquand was miked up and you can see

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Speaker 1: So does Checo. Like, yeah, I got respect for the

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Speaker 1: Like the way he runs. He's physical and he you know,

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Speaker 2: hundred gambler. All right, So, news wise, I would think

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Speaker 2: that the biggest news of today is that Marlon Humphrey

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Speaker 2: returned to practice. Did not practice at all last week

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Speaker 2: because of a calf injury, obviously didn't play in the game,

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Speaker 2: did not practice it all the week leading into the

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Speaker 2: Steelers game, so this has.

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Speaker 1: Been ongoing for him for a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Now. Doesn't practice that week, didn't practice the week of

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Speaker 2: the buye, didn't practice it all last week. But he's

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Speaker 2: back on the practice field today, which is encouraging, right.

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Speaker 1: John Harball on Monday said, you know, you'll get an

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Speaker 1: indication of of his readiness to play throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of the week, and you don't know which way that's

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Speaker 1: going to go. That could either mean yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: Marlin's not going to practice Wednesday Thursday, You'll have a

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Speaker 1: pretty good idea he ain't going to play on Sunday

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Speaker 1: or Hey, he's out there all week long. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if he is limited. I would anticipate he's probably limited,

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Speaker 1: but if he works his way up to a full participant,

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Speaker 1: you probably feel pretty good about his chance to play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think. Now Mark Andrews obviously different injury

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Speaker 2: and long to recovery. Here's a full participant at the

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Speaker 2: end of last week for two days, obviously didn't play

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Speaker 2: in the game. Mark is practicing again today. So that's

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Speaker 2: encouraging that. You know, it's not like there was a

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Speaker 2: setback there. I think they just ultimately determined not ready

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Speaker 2: to activate him yet coming back from that major injury.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that he's out there at the start

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Speaker 1: of the week, you feel good about that. The reports

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Speaker 1: are that the Ravens expect him to be able to

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Speaker 1: play in this game, and that the AFC Championship was

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Speaker 1: the aim all along, and so here we are, and

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Speaker 1: we obviously don't know if those reports are true or not,

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Speaker 1: but I would expect if Mark has a full week

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Speaker 1: of full practices, I would expect that he probably seets

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Speaker 1: up for this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Marlin, like, I'm sure that he's

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Speaker 2: chomping at the bit to get out there. I think

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Speaker 2: it's you know, it's it's a little bit. They're obviously

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Speaker 2: different injuries. As a corner, you know, like as with

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Speaker 2: a calf injury, you need to make sure that you

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Speaker 2: have the twitchiness and the ability to run for sure,

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Speaker 2: and if you're going to be out there on that island,

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Speaker 2: you need to be able to keep up. And so

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Speaker 2: it's like that's going to be part of what he

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Speaker 2: tests this week. And it's a different deal with than Mark,

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Speaker 2: who's come back from a fractured bone, who has to

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Speaker 2: make sure the bone is strong and everything around it

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Speaker 2: is strong.

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Speaker 1: This is more of like the.

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Speaker 2: Twitchiness, the quick the quick move mobility, all of that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a different type of deal.

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Speaker 1: Well, and of course you get into the questions of,

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Speaker 1: all right, how big a role will each of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Is Marlin going to come back and play one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps? You know, Mark obviously never plays

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the snaps, But does he just

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Speaker 1: take Charlie Kohler snaps? Is how's the snap count breakdown

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Speaker 1: between he and Isaiah Likely. A lot of praise about

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Speaker 1: Isaiah likely on the podium today from Ravens players and

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Speaker 1: head coach John Harball for good reason. And he's been

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Speaker 1: playing great, so you don't really want to take him

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Speaker 1: off the field very much. And so you know how

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Speaker 1: that all shakes out is another storyline for this week.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson today said, yeah, it's a big deal to

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Speaker 1: have Mark back. No dull, right, this guy's he's still

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Speaker 1: the butter to my bread. And that hasn't changed as

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Speaker 1: much as you know, as well as I likely has played,

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Speaker 1: that hasn't changed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be interesting with Marlin, like

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Speaker 2: you know, typically in his career, when he's been out there,

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Speaker 2: he's playing one hundred percent snaps. He just go out,

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Speaker 2: He goes out there and he plays them all. But

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Speaker 2: I do wonder if they say, you know what, like

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Speaker 2: as you as, rather than doing that, we're going to

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Speaker 2: use you basically as the third corner. And in those

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Speaker 2: situations he either could play in the slot yep, he

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Speaker 2: could play outside and Kyle Hamilton can move in. I

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Speaker 2: don't there's a bunch of different options of how they

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Speaker 2: could use him. But they could rotate series. You know,

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Speaker 2: they've done that at times this year, So like maybe

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Speaker 2: him and Ronald Darby rotate series. That's a simple way

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Speaker 2: of doing it. I think there's a few different ways

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Speaker 2: that they could approach it.

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Speaker 1: When speaking of slot, Kyle Hamilton talked about his perspective

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Speaker 1: matchup against Jason Kelce's.

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Speaker 2: Going up in the booth, and that's the match.

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Speaker 1: Up the Tobby Tobby and Jason Kelsey up in the

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Speaker 1: up in the suitet chugging beers, uh, Travis Kelcey and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton said, yeah, I'm I'm part obviously,

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Speaker 1: I'm part of the solution to hopefully shutting him down.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to be a team effort, so which

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Speaker 1: isn't surprising. I would expect that the Ravens. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: are not really a we like a team that likes

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Speaker 1: to lock Kyle Hamilton into one spot. The beauty of

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton is his versatility, and so whether that's Marlin

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Speaker 1: or some other combination of players it'll be that'll be

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Speaker 1: obviously a huge priority for this defense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Kyle Hamilton Travis Kelcey matchup

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Speaker 2: is probably the one I'm most excited.

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Speaker 1: To watch behind Roquan and Pacheco.

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Speaker 2: For me, Yeah, yeah, I just think that you have

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Speaker 2: a young, up and coming player who's establish himself on

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Speaker 2: a doll Pro.

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Speaker 1: You have a Hall of.

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Speaker 2: Fame tight end who, honestly, like when the moments throughout

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Speaker 2: this Chiefs run when they've needed a big play, Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelsey has been the guy who delivered.

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Speaker 1: He's risen to the occasion of everything.

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Speaker 2: He scored two touchdowns last week, so like when they

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Speaker 2: need a play, he's typically the guy. And I just

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Speaker 2: am really excited to see when it's Kelsey, when it's

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Speaker 2: Kelsey versus Kyle Hamilton, how that matchup goes.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. And then the last note that I

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Speaker 1: want to to point out here is just Lamar's mindset

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Speaker 1: going into this game, as as he's talked about, as

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Speaker 1: he promised on Draft night, I want to bring a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl to Baltimore. And here's the biggest game in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore in fifty plus years, with a chance to get there,

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Speaker 1: to get to that game, and I thought that Lamar

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Speaker 1: just seems even keeled, you know. He said, it's not

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Speaker 1: unlike any other game that the atmosphere. I'm sure on

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Speaker 1: Sunday will be bigger, you know, the vibes will be big.

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Speaker 1: But I'm treating it like any other game, and I

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Speaker 1: thought he's just seemed to be in a good headspace.

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Speaker 1: Even almost got tripped by the Mike Cord on the

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Speaker 1: way out. Great cover. You would have been flat on

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Speaker 1: your face. Lamar stumbles over the cord, recovers, shakes it off.

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Speaker 1: They said, oh, Mike got a sack on you said, na, nah,

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Speaker 1: he missed, Yeah he did. He didn't go down. It's

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Speaker 1: right feet. Yeah. So great sign for his mobility comes on.

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Speaker 2: He can shake off the sack attempt from the Mic cord.

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Speaker 2: He can do the same to Chris Jones exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for listening. As always, you can reach us

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Speaker 1: at the Lounge at ravenst NFL dot net. We've got

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Speaker 1: some great emails that we're going to get to ye

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Speaker 1: over the course of the week, so keep sending those.

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Speaker 1: I would love to answer your questions, and as always,

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Speaker 1: check out the Ravens Press Pass podcast, where we will

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Speaker 1: find all of today's media availability with John Harball, Kyle Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: Roquan Smith, and Lamar Jackson on the podium and then

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Speaker 1: we'll have more from locker room also today, so thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. We'll be back there later this week with

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton yess a guest Yes,