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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3: My name is Matt, my name is Noel.
Speaker 4: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
Speaker 4: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan and you are you.
Speaker 4: You are here that makes this the stuff they don't
Speaker 4: want you to know. Fellow conspiracy realist, we have something
Speaker 4: special in store.
Speaker 5: For you this evening.
Speaker 4: We are joined with Get This guys, not one, but
Speaker 4: two special guests, Langston Kerman and David Borie. These are
Speaker 4: the writers, the actors, the comedians, the creators also of
Speaker 4: one of our favorite podcasts on the planet, No Smoke.
Speaker 4: My mama told me, guys, thanks for coming on the show.
Speaker 5: What an intro, What a time.
Speaker 6: You know, we we we joked around last time we
Speaker 6: hung out with you guys that we listened to your
Speaker 6: show in the car and like we literally actually do
Speaker 6: and it's it's so much fun to almost talk with
Speaker 6: you guys. And because you bring up some topics you
Speaker 6: I heard you all talking about sprite the other day
Speaker 6: on one of your mother Freaking mini episodes.
Speaker 2: I have a nine year old, so I gotta be
Speaker 2: real careful about.
Speaker 6: But dude, David, you you brought up randomly Edward Burnees
Speaker 6: and I was just sitting there just going like, man,
Speaker 6: how did David find out about Edward Burnees? A lot
Speaker 6: of people don't know about this person, like man, the myth,
Speaker 6: the leg.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm a weird guy.
Speaker 5: Know, it's so wonderful that was also a weird guy
Speaker 5: he is.
Speaker 8: Yeah, is there a part of you that's like simultaneously
Speaker 8: impressed by the guy while also realizing that his legacy
Speaker 8: is one of terror?
Speaker 7: And how could you not be impressed by the man's
Speaker 7: work the things he did, like how he got women
Speaker 7: to start smoking cigarets. Yes, obviously terrible, but pretty cool story.
Speaker 8: So the American people trash meets and called it breakfasts,
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 4: And then he was like, yeah, Bacon worked out let's
Speaker 4: overthrow Guatemala.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you seem to not know who Edward was.
Speaker 5: And I remain not that word up on Edward, And
Speaker 5: so I'm excited to hear all of his antics listed
Speaker 5: in bullet point structure. I mean check it.
Speaker 4: Out and we have returned. I'm going to be honest
Speaker 4: you guys, I am much more excited to have you
Speaker 4: all on our show than Edward Bernese. As Matt mentioned,
Speaker 4: he is one of the first sith Lords that we
Speaker 4: learned about, godfather of.
Speaker 3: P r H the first episode of the podcast.
Speaker 4: Yep and wha yeah, the book Propaganda available online.
Speaker 3: I seem like a great place to start, though.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, since we've got two folks, one
Speaker 8: who's getting into it more familiar and then Lengthston maybe
Speaker 8: you're a little less familiar. But I mean the idea
Speaker 8: of this dude who basically invented advertising, Like, how could
Speaker 8: he not be like a sith lord type figure given
Speaker 8: the way things have gone in terms of like, you know,
Speaker 8: capitalism and just the absolute explosion of you know, consumer culture.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 7: Want you guys to feel bad. I'm also the nephew
Speaker 7: of Freud, so.
Speaker 4: I only forgot about that, all right.
Speaker 2: I think we got in the podcast.
Speaker 3: Have not yet begun to podcast.
Speaker 8: But I mean just the idea of like weaponizing psychology,
Speaker 8: you know, to convince people that they need something that
Speaker 8: they maybe don't need. I mean I guess there is
Speaker 8: a place for advertising where it can be a good thing.
Speaker 8: But do you guys have thoughts on just the nature
Speaker 8: of advertising.
Speaker 5: I'd say that, and I don't think I'm speaking out
Speaker 5: a term when I say this. I would say that
Speaker 5: about eighty percent of the conspiracies we unpack on the
Speaker 5: podcast tend to circle back to some version of capitalist structures,
Speaker 5: basically being a poison that led to all of it. Like,
Speaker 5: there is very there are very few conspiracies that you
Speaker 5: can't just point at the richest man in the room
Speaker 5: and be like, well, he did it. That was him
Speaker 5: that did that.
Speaker 7: Us.
Speaker 5: I don't know how to convince y'all to join me
Speaker 5: in murdering him, but certainly that's the guy that did it.
Speaker 4: And there are more of us, yeah, and.
Speaker 5: A lot more.
Speaker 7: Firstly, I want to say that my mama told me
Speaker 7: pod is brought to you by Oscar Meyer.
Speaker 3: Trash meat.
Speaker 5: That's actually one hundred percent, and we got to get
Speaker 5: that in there. We have gift cards to prove it.
Speaker 4: Amazing.
Speaker 7: I never got mine because I didn't want my name
Speaker 7: on the me. But no, there.
Speaker 6: There are so many lists out there that you can man,
Speaker 6: I can't even remember the episode you guys were just
Speaker 6: talking about getting on a list. It was really recent.
Speaker 6: I've got in my notes somewhere, but just leak, right,
Speaker 6: I think that was it.
Speaker 7: That was it?
Speaker 5: Oh sure, yeah, now that Chase leak was fast. I
Speaker 5: don't know if you guys have covered it on the
Speaker 5: podcast at all, but it's it's insane that they even
Speaker 5: called it a leak.
Speaker 3: Everybody, yeah, social security number, yeah.
Speaker 4: Because the leak implies that there was stuff left over
Speaker 4: that did not get leaked as well.
Speaker 5: Or even it implies that there's like there's a winnable
Speaker 5: game inside of this, that this this was a happy accident.
Speaker 5: Like there are times where like these airlines years ago,
Speaker 5: it happens far less frequently now where like airlines would
Speaker 5: mess up and you could like fly to Dubai for
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty dollars, you had to scramble to
Speaker 5: get the tickets. They would immediately fix it and there
Speaker 5: was no accountability on the other end. This was not
Speaker 5: an accident. This was this was clearly just misinformation that
Speaker 5: was leading people to commit check fraud. It's insane.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 6: For context, it was you would you would write a
Speaker 6: checkout to yourself for a crazy amount of money that
Speaker 6: you do not have, deposit it and immediately take a
Speaker 6: bunch of that, if not all of that, cash out
Speaker 6: as much as you could, basically like walking into a
Speaker 6: bank to do it too, not at an ATM or something. Sure,
Speaker 6: And then Chase was like, oh, by the way, we have.
Speaker 2: A lot of money to suit everybody.
Speaker 5: We we knew we set it up that way. We
Speaker 5: didn't think you dumb dumbs would get this excited about it,
Speaker 5: but we certainly are going to take all our money back.
Speaker 7: It's like, don't eat tidepods. They look delicious, but you
Speaker 7: were dumb enough to eat it. Yeah, don't have the time.
Speaker 4: I agree, Like the burden is on the consumer there,
Speaker 4: you know, Like if you hear about a get rich
Speaker 4: quick scheme and it's everywhere, then that's more like a
Speaker 4: I'm going to get you.
Speaker 5: If you hear about a get rich quick scheme and
Speaker 5: it involves one of the three largest banks in the
Speaker 5: world from tread lightly, go ahead and back up a
Speaker 5: little bit there, big dog, What are we talking about?
Speaker 3: Why do you say the retide pods?
Speaker 8: I think it's no coincidence that Baja Blast is as
Speaker 8: popular as it is. People just like things that are
Speaker 8: toilet bowl cleaner colored. I personally do. I like Smurf gummies.
Speaker 8: I'm a big fan of stuff that turns my weird colors.
Speaker 7: The podcast, I love the color blue as something to ingest.
Speaker 4: Yes, blue foods, Yeah, drinks mostly guys.
Speaker 3: The die is probably fine for you. I'm certain.
Speaker 5: One of the things we landed on in the podcast
Speaker 5: was that, uh, there is no natural occurring blue.
Speaker 4: In my labor.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, that is not what god.
Speaker 3: Blue raspberry, that's naturally occurring fruit.
Speaker 7: That's why they have to hit you with qualifiers like electric.
Speaker 4: Exactly right, or like how juicy fruit is based on
Speaker 4: a flavor that does not naturally occur. So they talked
Speaker 4: with their legal department and they said, well, what can
Speaker 4: we call it won't get us sued. And we're talking
Speaker 4: conspiracies and we we haven't we haven't really talked yet
Speaker 4: about you all show. Now we've been on your show before, Langston,
Speaker 4: you came over here a while back. Could you tell
Speaker 4: us a little bit of the origin story of my
Speaker 4: mama told me? What is it? How did you all meet?
Speaker 4: And dare I say conspire? Yeah?
Speaker 5: We conspire bi weekly, I would say, no twice a
Speaker 5: week at this point to achieve the podcast is about
Speaker 5: black conspiracy theories specifically. I think we were very motivated
Speaker 5: by sort of taking obviously larger conversations about conspiracy, but
Speaker 5: really centering the black experience and black sort of like
Speaker 5: perspective in all of that. And I was very fortunate
Speaker 5: to kick this bad Boy off. But Bory has been
Speaker 5: on board for now two years, and we just we
Speaker 5: like sort of like all this the fun little nuance
Speaker 5: that you get out of just the added racial tint
Speaker 5: to that bad Boy.
Speaker 6: There's nothing better. I know, Sorry David, I mean, it's
Speaker 6: stepping your toes here, but there's nothing better than the
Speaker 6: opening of y'all show when you you make something up
Speaker 6: at the very top about this so much fun. I
Speaker 6: love that party, I love it.
Speaker 7: That's all true, but yeah, that's a good time. We
Speaker 7: just liked, uh adding the racial aspect. It just makes
Speaker 7: you more scared of things you were already scared of,
Speaker 7: And who doesn't want to do that on a podcast?
Speaker 7: To get scared?
Speaker 8: I mean, I think we try to do on this
Speaker 8: show is not to necessarily intentionally freak people out too much,
Speaker 8: just like to look at a thing, talk about who's
Speaker 8: saying the thing, where it might have come from, look
Speaker 8: at the science, look at what the Internet's saying, and
Speaker 8: then just have a talk about it.
Speaker 3: Because a lot of this stuff, at the end of
Speaker 3: the day is sort of.
Speaker 8: Thought experiments, and it's like it fascinates us on a
Speaker 8: fundamental human level, and I think.
Speaker 3: That's what makes the conversations worth listening to.
Speaker 5: You know, I have long equated conspiracy theory to a
Speaker 5: version of, like, dude, fan fiction, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's just straight man fan fiction where you are obsessed
Speaker 5: with an idea and you start to create your own
Speaker 5: stories and that idea and some of those stories are
Speaker 5: completely in cannon and are correct, and then some of
Speaker 5: them shits are truly you just going Dragon Ball heroes
Speaker 5: with that bad boy. You know, nobody even knows what
Speaker 5: this is, but you're just making up stuff and we
Speaker 5: know why because you care about it a lot.
Speaker 7: Dude.
Speaker 6: I've got a dragon Ball one like this for you
Speaker 6: guys on a mini episode you just did. It's the
Speaker 6: one where you mentioned Edward Burnees and it was about
Speaker 6: McDonald's and Sprite specifically.
Speaker 7: I want you guys to know how wide of a
Speaker 7: ray of topics we cover. The episode really covered a
Speaker 7: lot of ground.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry this one in particular, you guys had a
Speaker 6: discussion about. It was Sam I think, wrote in with
Speaker 6: an email about, Hey, did you guys notice that McDonald
Speaker 6: seems to pair their chicken products with sprite and they're
Speaker 6: like Burger products with coke or you know, a soda
Speaker 6: that's got other stuff in it. And as you guys
Speaker 6: are going through it, it made me think about our
Speaker 6: discussion about mountain dew and surge and all that stuff
Speaker 6: that we talked about back in the day, speaking of
Speaker 6: the strangely colored drinks that we ingested, especially as younger folks.
Speaker 6: But then it got me to thinking, Okay, of those
Speaker 6: two drinks, they are pretty much the same thing, right.
Speaker 6: This is corn syrup, a little bit of flavoring, some
Speaker 6: soda water basically, But one of those drinks has an
Speaker 6: added thing in it that the other one doesn't have,
Speaker 6: coke versus sprite.
Speaker 2: Coke has caffeine in it. Yeah, and which made me.
Speaker 6: Think, is there a reason why somebody would want to
Speaker 6: get caffeine in the white people and not in the
Speaker 6: black people. But think about it, it's it's a it's
Speaker 6: a stimulant. It's been used as a stimulant for so long.
Speaker 6: And what is sugar doo if not make you drowsy
Speaker 6: and like kind of out of it? And I'm telling you,
Speaker 6: I don't know. The more I thought about it as
Speaker 6: you guys were talking about it, I was like, wait
Speaker 6: a minute, Mountain dew was aimed so squarely at white
Speaker 6: kids too early on.
Speaker 2: I don't know, just it got me thinking, No, I.
Speaker 5: Really like this train of thought. I think frankly, Uh,
Speaker 5: it took me a second to remember that sprite is decaffeinated.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: And and more than that, I think it is very
Speaker 5: much pitched as a caffeinated drink. Like a lot of
Speaker 5: their their imagery is like dudes playing basketball. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: like in the studio it's like, oh, like this is
Speaker 5: like a party drink. Therefore it would have caffeine, it
Speaker 5: would keep me up and ship. But nah, yeah, there's
Speaker 5: a reason they're not. They don't want us caffeinated. That
Speaker 5: feels crazy.
Speaker 7: It's interesting because now when I really kind of expanded
Speaker 7: look on it. Hey, there's no black energy drinks. No,
Speaker 7: And I don't even think they pitch us coffee that hard.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, but Oregon.
Speaker 6: Hawaiian punch, Like just think about all of those products.
Speaker 2: I don't know, do you guys something there?
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember justa.
Speaker 8: That was a kind of a it had like a
Speaker 8: panther on you know, I mean you think was that
Speaker 8: geared towards black folks?
Speaker 3: Do you think? Or I don't.
Speaker 7: I think it was more towards Africans look.
Speaker 8: Fairs, just the branding of it Africans and SKA bands.
Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, now people will tell you that's
Speaker 4: a limited demographic. Hear us out, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Listen, you only need one thousand hardcore fans.
Speaker 8: I would like to propose a quick just Devil's advocate
Speaker 8: perspective on the Sprite burger chicken argument. Don't you think
Speaker 8: it's maybe also maybe it's an aesthetic choice because like
Speaker 8: sprite is clear and chicken is kind of white, and
Speaker 8: burgers are brown and coke is brown. Just in terms
Speaker 8: of the replacement in the ad.
Speaker 7: It's also is pairing is the thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Just technically, Well, you guys talked about the colors on
Speaker 6: the bottles, right, So like Sprite had that green color
Speaker 6: and that was different from the red color that was
Speaker 6: on a lot of the coke products and just I
Speaker 6: don't know, there's there's all kinds of psychology stuff going
Speaker 6: into that.
Speaker 2: Again, that's why I love listening to y'all show.
Speaker 5: But even as you guys are saying it's a better pair,
Speaker 5: a part of me and this is me being the
Speaker 5: antagonist that I am, A part of me want wonders
Speaker 5: how much of that is just coaching, right that historically
Speaker 5: we are told red wine with red meat and that
Speaker 5: is the best flavor palette pairing whatever. But like, is
Speaker 5: it or is that just what we've been programmed to
Speaker 5: understand because culturally it's correct, its effect.
Speaker 8: Too, right, I mean, if you believe it, then maybe
Speaker 8: you're like on board already mentally from the start, and
Speaker 8: then you're like, hell, yeah, that's the best and nothing else.
Speaker 7: I do feel like pairs well with poultry though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, but but that sounds like you
Speaker 5: would not squeeze a lemon on a steak.
Speaker 8: That occurred to me the other day. It's not a
Speaker 8: thing that people do, but maybe it'd be delicious.
Speaker 5: It sounds like something maybe your boy Eddie burns. Uh.
Speaker 4: This is this is something I think too, that hits
Speaker 4: on the the crux of the explorations we have on
Speaker 4: our shows, because you guys are top tier comics, you
Speaker 4: stand up comics, and you're also some of the sharpest
Speaker 4: people in this space. Not that our space is tough
Speaker 4: to be, you know, shout out to a well. But
Speaker 4: there's there's this thing I've been thinking about. We'd love
Speaker 4: your thoughts here. What do conspiracies and comedy have in common?
Speaker 4: Because like conspiracies, as you said, kind of dude fan fiction.
Speaker 4: I would say also we could argue their folklore in
Speaker 4: many ways, and it appears that, like you were saying Langston,
Speaker 4: a conspiracy kind of aggregates facts and then attempts to
Speaker 4: reframe them in an unexpected way that purports to explain everything.
Speaker 4: And when we're watching, when we're watching you guys on stage,
Speaker 4: we're watching like the new a special you have David,
Speaker 4: The Birth of a Nation GB I R T H.
Speaker 4: Watching Bad Poetry just came out on Netflix. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of thought you guys put into structuring, right a story,
Speaker 4: reframing things. So is there anything in common between conspiracies
Speaker 4: and comedy.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it. I think it definitely comes
Speaker 7: from the same place right. I think a lot of
Speaker 7: it is rooted somewhere in truth. I think a lot
Speaker 7: of it is trying to understand your surroundings, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, trying to put things in a way
Speaker 7: that you can understand and that you can tell to
Speaker 7: other people. So I think that well, not funny. I
Speaker 7: think they parallel pretty well.
Speaker 5: I also think there's a not necessarily even in a
Speaker 5: sinister way, there's a ton of manipulation in comedy. Like
Speaker 5: the entire art form that David and I participate in
Speaker 5: is largely trying to manipulate strangers into feeling endeared to
Speaker 5: us almost immediately. And we recognize that some of that
Speaker 5: is like controlling the narrative that I'm sharing about myself
Speaker 5: and how I share it about myself, And so it
Speaker 5: isn't meant to be evil, or at least I hope
Speaker 5: it's not evil, but it certainly is. I ain't telling
Speaker 5: you my worst qualities on stage. I'm telling you the
Speaker 5: funniest of my worst qualities on stage. The ones that
Speaker 5: aren't funny I keep private because otherwise the show doesn't
Speaker 5: go as well as I would have.
Speaker 8: It is funny to see, like somebody somebody stand up
Speaker 8: act multiple times and realize that it is a performance
Speaker 8: and that things are repeated, and the idea is to
Speaker 8: make it seem like you're doing it for the first time.
Speaker 8: And there's a little tricker even in that, but it's
Speaker 8: just the name of the game, and it's like we
Speaker 8: sign up to be manipulated like that, you know. I
Speaker 8: think it's totally like part for the course. I think
Speaker 8: I'm totally fine with that, but it is odd when
Speaker 8: you see behind the curtain a little bit of almost feel, oh,
Speaker 8: they weren't talking just to me that one time, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's also the shitty thing that society
Speaker 5: has done to all of us, where we were demanding
Speaker 5: that we not be sheep. Right that nobody wants to be.
Speaker 5: We all want to be completely wide eyed to everything
Speaker 5: that's happening around us, but human nature requires us to
Speaker 5: be sheep. Sometimes it's okay to sort of be manipulated.
Speaker 5: I love Magic Show because so much a man tricks
Speaker 5: me into believing that the card wasn't where the card was,
Speaker 5: and I love that so much. And the idea that
Speaker 5: people can't just accept that, like, hey, we're not supposed
Speaker 5: to know everything. Some things are supposed to be magic
Speaker 5: and manipulation is sad. It's so cynical.
Speaker 7: Hi, not everybody can get rich. A lot of us
Speaker 7: are sheep. That's just that's just the nature of it. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what they want you to say. Come on, man, if.
Speaker 8: We if we insisted on complete transparency, we couldn't enjoy movies.
Speaker 3: We couldn't every movie we dissect it, we'd be this
Speaker 3: is a lie. Yeah, I mean it's come on, it's
Speaker 3: no fun. Nobody wants to live like that.
Speaker 4: And it is small talk with the German.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm not gonna go on that is that what
Speaker 7: you I'm just leaving that one there, but it is.
Speaker 5: I mean, you see it on Twitter all the time,
Speaker 5: where like a genuine, like exciting thing will happen and
Speaker 5: within months there are people unpacking why that thing wasn't
Speaker 5: real or isn't fun whatever, And it's like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 5: let's go back to at least a taste of whimsy
Speaker 5: where we're you know, can come out and we don't. Yeah,
Speaker 5: taste of whimsy. I'll be selling it after the the
Speaker 5: on the live shows.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did you guys have merch now too?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 6: New merch website too that I'd never heard of before. Really, yeah, no,
Speaker 6: it's not.
Speaker 4: Taste of whimsy like you're saying. I think that's a
Speaker 4: valuable point, because you know, I will say this. It
Speaker 4: may be a hot take, a type of take. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure, but I don't think human brains were prepared
Speaker 4: for just the the endless, always on communication, right, not
Speaker 4: just the possibility of it, but also the responsibilities that
Speaker 4: have been kind of non consensually foisted on people. We're
Speaker 4: talking about this earlier. Man. You know, before social media,
Speaker 4: you would just get to people when you got to them,
Speaker 4: and now you got and I know.
Speaker 9: You guys are right. I mean I've survived the troubles.
Speaker 9: I've returned.
Speaker 4: Oh Bertram, We're just glad you're not dead, right, But
Speaker 4: now it's like, oh, you left me on red for
Speaker 4: seven minutes, this relationship is over.
Speaker 8: And aid receipts left on those psychotic behavior I just
Speaker 8: want to.
Speaker 7: Put on because what do you do? Well, you know
Speaker 7: I don't have it on. You put it on for me. Now.
Speaker 7: I'm into your psycho world, I know.
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's a message where it's just LMAO. But
Speaker 4: then it says red and it's like, oh, the clock's
Speaker 4: tick and.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, you gotta bounce something back here.
Speaker 6: Come on, all right, and with that, guys, we're going
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Speaker 6: and we'll be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 4: You guys do a tremendous job of applying. When I
Speaker 4: ask about conspiracy and comedy, I also see some incredibly
Speaker 4: sharp application of critical thought, right, because sometimes you'll sometimes
Speaker 4: you'll dive into what might be called an old wives tale,
Speaker 4: like recently the question of whether the shape of a
Speaker 4: pregnant person belly can form the gender, and then sometimes
Speaker 4: you dive into things that can be disturbing and scary
Speaker 4: for people. So with with this, like what do you
Speaker 4: have a go to formula for separating the fact from
Speaker 4: the fiction? Or how do you how do you guys
Speaker 4: even navigate this.
Speaker 5: Bory, I'll let you do. Maybe you have a better
Speaker 5: answer than I do right away, but.
Speaker 7: No, I don't, okay, I mean, like, I think we
Speaker 7: try to be as responsible as possible. I think that's
Speaker 7: always in the front of your mind. But you you
Speaker 7: got to sort of take these things out they come,
Speaker 7: because a lot of times will and thank you to
Speaker 7: Langston for allowing me to be Lucy Goosey. As far
Speaker 7: as the format he does the research, I don't so
Speaker 7: at the top he asked me what I think, and
Speaker 7: a lot of times my mind gets changed or whatever
Speaker 7: because I'm really I am forming my opinion on the spot.
Speaker 7: So I think just yeah, trying to be responsible and
Speaker 7: upen minded.
Speaker 4: Was there ever anything though that, like you came in
Speaker 4: thinking this is BS and you walked out things this
Speaker 4: is true.
Speaker 7: I hate to be that guy, but most of the government,
Speaker 7: based on they would never they never do anything like that.
Speaker 6: And then last time we hung out with you, David,
Speaker 6: we had just written a book where the entire thing
Speaker 6: was about government specific conspiracies, and I think we were
Speaker 6: I think we still probably feel that way that the
Speaker 6: government ends up getting over on all kinds of weird
Speaker 6: things that you wouldn't expect to happen until you you
Speaker 6: actually can get the receipts from the past and go,
Speaker 6: oh wow, they actually did that and there's documents.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Bory, we talked about this recently. The
Speaker 5: washing your chicken was something that I think we both
Speaker 5: went in like sort of like, nah, you wash a chicken.
Speaker 5: That's very normal and healthy, and then by the time
Speaker 5: you finish, there's a fair amount of evidence that suggests
Speaker 5: you're not supposed to be doing that. But then it
Speaker 5: also becomes this weird cultural thing of being ali. Well, well, no,
Speaker 5: we're still gonna wash our chicken.
Speaker 8: Animals is the idea that it can actually spread salmonella
Speaker 8: like around your kitchen to other surfaces.
Speaker 3: Like it's not.
Speaker 5: Only does it spread it to other surfaces, it's literally
Speaker 5: spreading it better onto the chicken. Yeah, it's like coating
Speaker 5: the chicken in a fine salmonilla glaze instead of just
Speaker 5: clunked up. In certain areas, I feel.
Speaker 6: Like if you get enough hot sauce involved with your chicken, though,
Speaker 6: you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Kill anything that's just slater with hot sauce.
Speaker 4: That's let's cut the chicken out entirely. Let's just be
Speaker 4: like hot sausitarians.
Speaker 8: This is one I'd love to hear your tick unders
Speaker 8: thinking about raw chicken, like you know, the idea that
Speaker 8: it will kill you instantly, or that salmonella will like
Speaker 8: you know, absolutely just end your life if you get it.
Speaker 8: I mean, in Japan they do sashimi uh raw chicken.
Speaker 8: It's a thing and is this a matter of like
Speaker 8: their meat is just better over there. They grow it,
Speaker 8: they raise it differently. Why is that okay?
Speaker 3: And we're not hearing all these stories out of Japan
Speaker 3: if people dropping dead eating row.
Speaker 4: Chicken, well nol as our official representative of the Nation
Speaker 4: of Japan, No.
Speaker 7: A lot.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's a great I mean, I'd love to, uh,
Speaker 4: because it is true that that is part of it,
Speaker 4: and that's a complaint sometimes people will have when they
Speaker 4: visit there. It's like, hey, this is undercooked. H we
Speaker 4: can see also, you know, uh, similar complaints in like
Speaker 4: steakhouses here in the US. You know, you got the
Speaker 4: you got the beef. Absolutist who are like, oh, a
Speaker 4: good steak just has to be gently pushed by a
Speaker 4: radiator for five seconds, you know, and otherwise you're wasting it.
Speaker 4: And then other people are saying, no, I don't want
Speaker 4: to risk diseases, please cook this all the way. So
Speaker 4: maybe it's a cultural thing. There's definitely science to it,
Speaker 4: but I'm interested in what you guys think. You have
Speaker 4: you heard about this undercooked chicken thing.
Speaker 7: I haven't, but I don't know. I feel like every
Speaker 7: country's got their meat that they kind of are too
Speaker 7: easy on right or a big place. We barely cook it.
Speaker 7: That's probably how they lot with chicken and fish. I
Speaker 7: don't I'm terrible, so I don't. I think I could
Speaker 7: handle chicken sashi. I'm not like afraid of meat in
Speaker 7: that way, which is not a great traite.
Speaker 8: A healthy fear of meat is probably good for just
Speaker 8: general survival.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's it's ever been.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it would be a texture issue for
Speaker 5: me eating raw chicken, but I don't know. I think
Speaker 5: I've certainly seen the videos of people eating the raw chicken,
Speaker 5: and I will say I have no sense of like
Speaker 5: how their chicken could be raised to be less diseased
Speaker 5: versus ours. But I do know, like having spent months
Speaker 5: in other countries, I always lose weight no matter where
Speaker 5: I am. Oh yeah, that's like I spent a month
Speaker 5: in Scotland and was eating the same bullshit I eat
Speaker 5: here and immediately lost like fifteen pounds. And it truly
Speaker 5: is just because I think our foods are coated in
Speaker 5: all kinds of sugars and poisons that we often don't
Speaker 5: realize are there. And so yeah, the possibility of another
Speaker 5: country having a healthier version of the thing seems well
Speaker 5: within reason to me.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: Let me Linston.
Speaker 6: Do you eat a lot of bread in your diet ever,
Speaker 6: or is that pretty much cut out of your diet
Speaker 6: at this point?
Speaker 5: I try to avoid it, but I certainly do. I'd
Speaker 5: be lying if I said I didn't, but it's definitely
Speaker 5: an effort not to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do the same thing.
Speaker 6: We learned not that long ago about the sugar content
Speaker 6: in almost all breads that are created here in the US,
Speaker 6: and just how sugar.
Speaker 4: It's basically cake. When people come to the US from
Speaker 4: other countries, they're like, why is every sandwich cake? Sandwich?
Speaker 3: Question? Is it cake?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 6: The answer is always yes, well, and you translate that
Speaker 6: to a lot of like sauces and stuff too that
Speaker 6: end up having like a hypertos corns or in it
Speaker 6: or something that just gets slathered on whatever you're eating.
Speaker 6: And hey, it's fine here, but you go to another
Speaker 6: place and it's mostly herbal like based or something or oil.
Speaker 5: Yeah, every every like Instagram workout dude, that ever like
Speaker 5: tells you how to get in shape. It's just like, oh,
Speaker 5: cut out salad, dressing and bread, and you're lying, I
Speaker 5: and then you know, I put salad. What is the
Speaker 5: salad without salad dressing? What do you want me to do?
Speaker 5: I'm not an animal. I just want to I just
Speaker 5: want to see my abs again if the if at
Speaker 5: all possible.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would cut back, maybe not entirely upstanding. It's
Speaker 8: a little drizzled.
Speaker 4: That's weird too, because we're also now we're getting to
Speaker 4: the conversation about credibility, which is something you guys are
Speaker 4: super sharp at as well, which is you know, we're
Speaker 4: inundated with what I'm gonna sound like a jerk. I'm
Speaker 4: fine with it. Anytime a world event occurs that is unfortunate.
Speaker 4: It is amazing how quickly people get their PhDs and
Speaker 4: how quickly they are immediately believed as as though their gospel.
Speaker 4: You know, Hey, TikTok, it's me, your boy. Jonathan Wilson
Speaker 4: went down in Lebanon and back in two thousand and six,
Speaker 4: I met a guy who went to Lebanon for a
Speaker 4: cousin's wedding. So let me tell you about the Middle East.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the quick finger experts are quick Finger are are
Speaker 5: They're They're plentiful at this point, and it is sort
Speaker 5: of a frustrating game to try to decipher between them.
Speaker 5: I'm grateful that we have a common podcasts first because
Speaker 5: it allows us the space to really just make fun
Speaker 5: of what we think these people are saying, more than
Speaker 5: owing it to an audience to give them the correct answer.
Speaker 5: On the other side of it that like I, I
Speaker 5: do not have any expertise in what's happening in the
Speaker 5: Middle East, certainly not to the scale that I probably should. Therefore,
Speaker 5: I'll just make fun of a dumb dumb who I
Speaker 5: know is incorrect more than I have to give you
Speaker 5: the right one, and.
Speaker 3: We thank you for your service.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I saw I saw your episode come up with x
Speaker 6: MIO and it was about fentanyl, and I was like,
Speaker 6: oh crap, I don't know if I can even listen
Speaker 6: to this because it's actually that's affected my life personally,
Speaker 6: that substance. And I was I didn't think I'd be
Speaker 6: able to listen to it. But the just the intro
Speaker 6: alone where it's like the whole first before the ad break,
Speaker 6: you didn't even like say x Mile's name, and y'all
Speaker 6: just had so much fun talking about podcast no no,
Speaker 6: but it was fun. It is what I'm trying to
Speaker 6: get across, And uh, you did hit you did hit
Speaker 6: the pretty heavy stuff towards the end there about like
Speaker 6: all the different kinds of drugs that have been infiltrated
Speaker 6: with that substance and potentially why, And I kind of
Speaker 6: want to be honest, I wanted you all to go
Speaker 6: further into it a little bit because it does feel
Speaker 6: like a similar thing to when the US poisoned the
Speaker 6: alcohol back in the day on purpose to kill people
Speaker 6: drinking alcohol.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, It's true.
Speaker 6: It feels like a sneaky substance that could end up
Speaker 6: in whatever drug supply, Uh, honestly, any substance supply, and
Speaker 6: it could be used to kill people.
Speaker 3: You guys believe it's on the decline.
Speaker 8: I heard a stat that it's like the overdoses from
Speaker 8: fentanyl are like way down.
Speaker 4: Well they're killing their market.
Speaker 3: Well, I'd say, yeah, I've always I've always wondered too.
Speaker 8: And it's also like, why would you put fentanyl in
Speaker 8: what's supposed to be a stimulant. I've never understood this
Speaker 8: idea that like where is this coming into the supply
Speaker 8: chain and why it doesn't seem very effective as like no, well,
Speaker 8: trick them into thinking it's cocaine, but it's actually gonna
Speaker 8: like put them to sleep or.
Speaker 7: Like you know, yeah, who does that benefit?
Speaker 5: I think some of it is that they made it
Speaker 5: too popular, right that, like now everybody knows to look
Speaker 5: out for said drug. Everybody knows that like these overdoses
Speaker 5: that we may have been like attributing as something else
Speaker 5: are now almost always finanyl. So they're gonna have to
Speaker 5: come up with like a new game or at least
Speaker 5: a new drug to make this work. Like you can't
Speaker 5: keep tricking people with the same trick over and over again.
Speaker 7: Awareness is so high of it now, test strips are everywhere.
Speaker 3: It just seems like it.
Speaker 4: Makes Who's the day?
Speaker 7: Though?
Speaker 3: Is it cartels or is it more sinister than that?
Speaker 3: Is it like work around? That's what I've always wondered.
Speaker 3: Why would they do it?
Speaker 8: It doesn't seem like a very smart workaround to like
Speaker 8: kill your customer base.
Speaker 4: Short term gain. Maybe if you step on it the
Speaker 4: right way, then you can adulterate ustan such that you
Speaker 4: can make more money selling it.
Speaker 5: But I also think, I mean, I think we're we're
Speaker 5: also talking if we're if I'm applying that day, I
Speaker 5: think that this feels political, right that like so long
Speaker 5: as people are overdosing on this what seems like impossible
Speaker 5: drug to control, then then you always have an argument
Speaker 5: for controlling our borders, for managing crime in this country. Yes,
Speaker 5: there's a bunch of others that sort of is deeply
Speaker 5: connected to drug overdoses and immediately gets those associations. It's
Speaker 5: the reason why, like every Trump rally, the one thing
Speaker 5: he can really get them amped up on is being like,
Speaker 5: there's gangs coming and they're selling your kids drugs and
Speaker 5: they're killing them. And everybody's like, because that sounds scary,
Speaker 5: and so like, as long as you and I all
Speaker 5: have somebody that we know that's either overdosed or come close,
Speaker 5: then it is a true story and it benefits the
Speaker 5: you know, the powers that be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a powerful point because there is at some
Speaker 4: juncture there is a very valid argument that perhaps agencies
Speaker 4: whose entire existence is based on a war on drugs,
Speaker 4: maybe they don't want that war to be quote unquote
Speaker 4: one over because.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've lost it with weed.
Speaker 8: I mean, it was the easy go to and now
Speaker 8: it's kind of like that's just you can't really do
Speaker 8: that anymore.
Speaker 3: So they got to have something else.
Speaker 5: We haven't won a war since World War Two. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And part of that is just because they were like, oh,
Speaker 5: we can't have definitive wins anymore, do you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? Like, it doesn't actually benefit us to like
Speaker 5: blow a country out of the water, because that looks
Speaker 5: bad on us and creates this this history we'll have
Speaker 5: to apologize for. Instead, you can kind of fade things
Speaker 5: into the distance until you've sort of wrung out all
Speaker 5: the money and resources you can get out.
Speaker 3: Of it, for sure.
Speaker 6: But we've won a ton of proxy wars or conflicts,
Speaker 6: right like what you were talking about Linkston, where we
Speaker 6: drain an enemy dry of their resources. But then we
Speaker 6: still build, you know, f thirty five Lightnings or whatever
Speaker 6: they're called, these new jets that cost eighty five million
Speaker 6: dollars a pop. And if we don't have anybody to
Speaker 6: attack with those jets, then why the heck would Lockheed
Speaker 6: Martin continue to build them? And then what happens to
Speaker 6: the economy when Lockheed Martin stock goes all the way
Speaker 6: down and you know, it just becomes this weird cycle
Speaker 6: of a thing that means somebody's got to be shooting
Speaker 6: and killing somebody else.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it and.
Speaker 5: Again, if we're talking about what capitalism is, it's that
Speaker 5: it's somebody has to die in order for these businesses
Speaker 5: and people to sort of stay afloat. And so yeah,
Speaker 5: we got to keep the party going. So yeah, a
Speaker 5: little fittonol every once in a while, will we'll pull
Speaker 5: it back some We'll do a heart you know, we'll
Speaker 5: make people feel a little more confident that something has
Speaker 5: been done, and then we'll amp it back up and
Speaker 5: make sure that a few overdoses happen nearby so that
Speaker 5: we have something to talk about in the next election
Speaker 5: and the next wave of people we need to put
Speaker 5: in power.
Speaker 8: Isn't that like sort of like the kind of false
Speaker 8: flag thing that some folks on the right would say
Speaker 8: the left is doing with gun control, Like just to
Speaker 8: put that out there, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not saying I think that, but it does just to
Speaker 3: talk about both sides.
Speaker 8: You know, there are people that say where there are
Speaker 8: folks that are manufacturing these events that lead to a
Speaker 8: conversation around getting.
Speaker 3: Rid of guns or taking away our guns.
Speaker 8: And so what we're saying is maybe there's a side
Speaker 8: that is injecting this fentanyl into the system in order
Speaker 8: to manipulate and wield some amount of control.
Speaker 7: And I think also when you flood, when you flood
Speaker 7: the market or you flood the people, you don't have
Speaker 7: to manufacture those events because there's so much, such a surplus.
Speaker 3: Of framing them, were contextualizing them.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 6: I really liked your discussion on that episode, specifically about
Speaker 6: potential being a way to get taxes out out of
Speaker 6: a whole different set of customers, right who now can
Speaker 6: no longer buy drugs from somebody that they know they
Speaker 6: have to go down to a dispensary somewhere and pay
Speaker 6: whatever tax eventually will be a federal tax. Mean, that
Speaker 6: made maybe more sense to me than it should have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I do think to both of those
Speaker 5: sort of questions of both the false flag and the taxes.
Speaker 5: To me, so much of what this is is not
Speaker 5: when I think about conspiracy theory, it is rarely a
Speaker 5: very brilliant man in a very high tower manipulating like
Speaker 5: chess pieces. This is a bunch of dumb dums who
Speaker 5: accidentally figured out that this drug is easy to overdose on,
Speaker 5: and instead of holding themselves accountable, they go, well, leave
Speaker 5: it out there and see how many people we can
Speaker 5: sort of at least manipulate by the results of this
Speaker 5: to gain what we need. So it's not it's not
Speaker 5: even that I think that there's some mastermind plan to
Speaker 5: put guns in schools and kill children so that they
Speaker 5: can make it political. It's that they won't do anything
Speaker 5: to prevent the killing of children, and then they know
Speaker 5: they plan to make it political. On the other end,
Speaker 5: both liberal you know, conservative arguments exist in all of
Speaker 5: this stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sin of negligence, right exactly. And this is this
Speaker 4: is something that I think is inescapable for anybody who
Speaker 4: really really puts some time into thinking through this. And
Speaker 4: I love the point we're getting at here, which is
Speaker 4: there's always that question. Is there some as you said,
Speaker 4: guy at a high tower, is there some single global
Speaker 4: cabal that runs the world right and doesn't want you
Speaker 4: to know the Tubac and Elvis or a lot for
Speaker 4: some reason. But what's it seems more often at least
Speaker 4: an hour collective experience. I don't want to speak for
Speaker 4: the guys here, so I should amend that, at least
Speaker 4: to me, it seems like there are a bunch of
Speaker 4: people who want to control the world and feel like
Speaker 4: they should, and they all hate each other. They'll get
Speaker 4: along a little bit when the ends are justifying, you know,
Speaker 4: whatever their goal is. But with whenever we come up
Speaker 4: against questions like the illuminati or what is a real
Speaker 4: or fake conspiracy theory, I'm one hundred percent on board
Speaker 4: with you guys. It typically turns out to be people
Speaker 4: who messed up and want to try to cover up
Speaker 4: what they messed up, or people who already have some
Speaker 4: power and they want more power. I don't think you
Speaker 4: need aliens to explain that.
Speaker 3: We the a hard time.
Speaker 8: I think believing in the benevolent politician or like the
Speaker 8: batal politician who made this path for their lives in
Speaker 8: order to help people on either side. I mean, again,
Speaker 8: not speaking for the group, but me and myself, I
Speaker 8: don't trust any of them, and I don't think that's
Speaker 8: a particularly you know, alarmist position.
Speaker 7: No, no, not at all. These people are psychos. His
Speaker 7: job requirement, the want to do it is what disqualifies
Speaker 7: you from being trustworthy.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had this argument with my wife a million
Speaker 5: times because I think my wife tends to vote very
Speaker 5: She's she's a liberal voting person. She's she is not
Speaker 5: a cynic like myself. She's she sort of tends to
Speaker 5: be in line with a lot of the Democratic agenda
Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. And she loves Barack Obama
Speaker 5: and was so excited at times where she gets to
Speaker 5: meet him or or be in a room where he
Speaker 5: once sat and would come back and tell me the thing.
Speaker 5: I'll be like, but he but he's a psychopath. What
Speaker 5: are you celebrating like it? As an absolute psychopath? And
Speaker 5: it's not personal to him, it's it's Kamala's one. Trump
Speaker 5: is one obviously, George w his daddy. They're all psychopaths
Speaker 5: because they they literally sat down and were like, I'm
Speaker 5: going to be the greatest person in the world. I'm
Speaker 5: going to become the world's champion despite all of.
Speaker 7: This whole thing.
Speaker 5: Imagine looking at Lebron James and being like, I'll beat him.
Speaker 7: No, I got it.
Speaker 8: Do you think the notion that they're psychopaths and that
Speaker 8: what someone like Kamala or Barack Obama represents as a
Speaker 8: positive thing can coexist?
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, as a positive thing like the Barack Obama's
Speaker 8: first black president, Kamala Harris, whatever it might represent to
Speaker 8: certain people, that could serve as a positive thing, while
Speaker 8: also it existing that they're not great people like.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I do think that we, like I was saying before,
Speaker 5: we need to be sheep sometimes and and especially in
Speaker 5: the system that's laid out before us. Now, if we
Speaker 5: want to have a bigger conversation about whether or not
Speaker 5: the very structure that we're all trapped in is correct,
Speaker 5: I got different feelings on it, but I do think
Speaker 5: if we exist in the world that we exist in,
Speaker 5: then people need to be inspired and need to feel motivated.
Speaker 5: And I think those kinds of psychopaths can sometimes be
Speaker 5: exactly what we need to make someone a better version
Speaker 5: of themselves. Now does that make for a greater good
Speaker 5: in terms of our society? Societal survival? Are are the
Speaker 5: survival of humanity? I'm not convinced, but but I don't
Speaker 5: know that I know what the alternative is?
Speaker 7: That exactly.
Speaker 2: The alternative is a thousand bottles of mineral oil?
Speaker 7: Do it, Matt, I thought you were going to be
Speaker 7: the one to bring it up.
Speaker 5: The political dog almost completely covers the Didny time.
Speaker 7: That sounds like.
Speaker 2: It is our foremost.
Speaker 5: Expert in all things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the photos, So Sean, uh, Sean are surprised.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, God, please.
Speaker 4: He said it was a bad boy for life.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: I just sometimes when people tell you stuff, you should
Speaker 4: listen to what they say. But so, okay, So this
Speaker 4: is something that Noel, Matt and I were Obviously we're nerds,
Speaker 4: so we're constantly talking about anything that pops up in
Speaker 4: the world of Uh. I mean, did he got charged
Speaker 4: with conspiracy and trafficking and the Feds we were just
Speaker 4: talking about this, uh, matter of fact, old before we rolled.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: The Feds do not move forward on those kind of
Speaker 4: cases unless they're pretty certain conviction. And it's because they
Speaker 4: won't pursue it unless they're convinced. So, like, what are
Speaker 4: your takes? I mean, this feels like it goes back
Speaker 4: to earlier Illuminati questions, you know, and the cabals and
Speaker 4: all that crap.
Speaker 7: Yeah, usually I think this one's pretty cut and dry.
Speaker 3: What about the connections? I mean, you know, what about
Speaker 3: like how does it ripple?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 5: I will say that that pretty shortly after his arrest,
Speaker 5: I think it was like a day later, they announced
Speaker 5: that he was on suicide watch. That this man who
Speaker 5: has never once even shown a sign of not believing
Speaker 5: in himself even in the lowest times of humanity, suddenly
Speaker 5: was willing to take his own life. And I didn't
Speaker 5: buy that. The lawyer like instant that to that felt crazy,
Speaker 5: where like, if there's a lot of people on this
Speaker 5: planet that I genuinely believe might hurt themselves, and obviously
Speaker 5: there are a ton of reasons why somebody might make
Speaker 5: that choice, Puffy, I'm not buying it, No, sir, that
Speaker 5: man was fine and y'all had plants.
Speaker 4: He's the guy who looked at Lebron and said, yeah,
Speaker 4: I could do basketball. I guess, but yeah, yeah, do
Speaker 4: you guys see any of that.
Speaker 6: The only one to one for me is Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 6: where it appears to be somebody who had dirt on
Speaker 6: a lot of other people and that was the ammunition
Speaker 6: that he kept his empire going. I don't know if
Speaker 6: that's the same for Sean Combs, but it seems like
Speaker 6: there's some parallels.
Speaker 7: I think that there's an element of it. I don't
Speaker 7: think that that was the primary thing that was keeping
Speaker 7: his empire going, but I think that I think I
Speaker 7: think I think there's definitely an element of that of
Speaker 7: like he knows he's taking everybody down with him, And.
Speaker 5: I think it's a scale thing, right, Like I think
Speaker 5: that the types of billionaires that Jeffrey Epstein could take down,
Speaker 5: and this is no disrespect to him, are are putting
Speaker 5: in a little bit more of an imprint than jay Z.
Speaker 7: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like the scale, it just isn't the same level of
Speaker 5: threat to like our function as a society.
Speaker 7: It's a different network.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're taking down Bill Gates to fail type stuff, right,
Speaker 5: you gotta we gotta bail that out, Jeffery gotta you know,
Speaker 5: he gotta get out the way because that's way too
Speaker 5: inconvenient to the way that we live as a society.
Speaker 4: He's gonna take the neck tie, you know. Okay, that's
Speaker 4: I mean that does I do think that's a very
Speaker 4: brutally accurate argument, you know, And to that point, sometimes,
Speaker 4: especially here in the West, Uh, the public deifies celebrities
Speaker 4: uh far past maybe their financial or structural theft to
Speaker 4: a society. We we were talking about this too. This
Speaker 4: is a slightly had conversation, but we were talking about
Speaker 4: this when the musician real up and comer Taylor Swift
Speaker 4: UH made a comment supporting supporting the Harris campaign. And
Speaker 4: then it moved voting numbers like at an almost unprecedented scale.
Speaker 4: And I was talking with Matt Knowle, and I was like,
Speaker 4: is this all it takes? Do we need just like
Speaker 4: one celebrity to say one thing.
Speaker 8: It was also kind of an own goal on Trump's
Speaker 8: part because if he hadn't done all that bonker stuff
Speaker 8: with the AI, she might not have had to come
Speaker 8: out on one side or the other at all. I
Speaker 8: mean that this's, you know, outside of the scope of
Speaker 8: this conversation, but I did want to just mention this
Speaker 8: last thing for me on the Diddy thing. Like our coworker,
Speaker 8: Charlemagne the God, he's an iHeart guy.
Speaker 3: He had a pretty hard to take.
Speaker 4: Technically, all of our our collective.
Speaker 3: We get paid by the same company, the same.
Speaker 5: Secret paid the same amount, no question.
Speaker 3: Equal opportunity. But he had a I think a pretty
Speaker 3: interesting take on it.
Speaker 8: He said that anyone who is now coming out telling
Speaker 8: stories about weird stuff they witnessed surrounding Diddy and his
Speaker 8: inner circle are essentially accomplices because they're they're talking now
Speaker 8: when it's like safe to talk because the guys obviously
Speaker 8: going down. I don't know, is that oversimplifying, like how
Speaker 8: are we going to see these dominoes fall? Like are
Speaker 8: the people that are out there now kind of telling
Speaker 8: these stories? Are they just waiting for the next shoot
Speaker 8: to drop? Or like do you have any names that
Speaker 8: you are seeing that might be like the next ones
Speaker 8: to go?
Speaker 7: You got?
Speaker 5: You got that list next to you?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: I think turned into aching conversation.
Speaker 7: Died in the desert six years ago, you don't have
Speaker 7: the name name them?
Speaker 8: Was wondering if you think this idea of people being
Speaker 8: accomplices because they stayed quiet for so long, is that
Speaker 8: like too simple?
Speaker 3: Is it like more?
Speaker 7: I think it's a little I think it's a little
Speaker 7: bit sick. I think there are opportunists, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean. I think that there's always when you take something,
Speaker 7: when somebody something of this magnitude happens, there's always going
Speaker 7: to be people who could attach themselves and get money
Speaker 7: and things like that off of it. Do I think
Speaker 7: that all these people saying stuff were accomplishes in it
Speaker 7: the way that they were like handprinting invitations to the
Speaker 7: Diddy parties? And I don't think I.
Speaker 5: Watched a video recently, Bory. I think I might have
Speaker 5: sent it to you of a dude who claimed that
Speaker 5: he was at a Diddy party and saw uh Carl
Speaker 5: Winslow gift. I watched that, Yeah, said he calls them
Speaker 5: Carl's Winslow's. He says, he says he from Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: He said he saw Reginald. He's saw Reginald Gill Johnson
Speaker 5: getting getting his back blown out by Diddy. And and
Speaker 5: I don't think that that person is telling the story
Speaker 5: for any other reason than just trying to take advantage
Speaker 5: of a moment.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say I don't think that person
Speaker 3: was telling the truth. I think it's entirely likely that
Speaker 3: didn't take place.
Speaker 5: But I think that's I think it's very likely that
Speaker 5: it did not take place. Right, Carl, carls Winslow's walked.
Speaker 3: In on you.
Speaker 7: I don't appreciate you interjecting me directly into the Diddy.
Speaker 5: Again, not you, David Borri, but but the other guy.
Speaker 7: Oh no, I just I think he walked on Carl
Speaker 7: Winslow giving it to Diddy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then maybe every accusation is a confession on
Speaker 4: some level. Right, we see that play out, But how
Speaker 4: much like to that point, how much of this it
Speaker 4: seems like we're saying there's a non zero percentage of
Speaker 4: this being people somewhat performatively doing the right thing as
Speaker 4: a way to fast forward themselves into the headlines.
Speaker 5: Is that, Yeah, I don't think there's a single hero
Speaker 5: on the other side of this. I think the heroes
Speaker 5: have had thirty five years to step up and say
Speaker 5: that something psychotic was happening here in some former fashion.
Speaker 5: I think, certainly, historically we've seen a lot of his artists,
Speaker 5: almost all of his artists never stay with bad Boy
Speaker 5: and certainly do not maintain healthy relationships with Puff. So
Speaker 5: I think in some ways maybe that is them showing
Speaker 5: us who this man has been the entire time. But
Speaker 5: the reality is nobody's been nearly as explicit as they
Speaker 5: probably should have been given the scale. Yeah, of the
Speaker 5: crime we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Nace just walked away and started preaching, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it changed one. Now he's got a podcast, so
Speaker 5: you know it's.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 6: You know, Mace made a song called feel So Good
Speaker 6: and in that music video there is a young man
Speaker 6: named Chris Tucker who was in it. And in the
Speaker 6: same year Chris Tucker made the film The Fifth Element,
Speaker 6: and this is what I wanted to talk to you
Speaker 6: guys about. You were having a discussion about the Friday movies,
Speaker 6: and you put him in whatever order you want to
Speaker 6: Friday really important, I think in a lot of our lives. Uh,
Speaker 6: that one line and you know this man, what ended
Speaker 6: up becoming just the thing that my friends and I
Speaker 6: said to each other all the time, Uh, I'm doing it,
Speaker 6: I'm doing it. I said all these lines that way
Speaker 6: Money Talks had the most lines.
Speaker 2: For me of his movies.
Speaker 5: That Peter Chris.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I've learned pretty hot and tempting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was huge.
Speaker 6: But I want to talk about him specifically in context
Speaker 6: of all this stuff because he had a really interesting
Speaker 6: career and I don't know his involvement with any of
Speaker 6: that stuff, or with bad Boy or any of those things,
Speaker 6: but he was certainly in a lot of music videos.
Speaker 6: And I noticed when I was going through his IMDb
Speaker 6: because I was thinking about him after you guys were
Speaker 6: talking about Friday on a recent episode. You can see
Speaker 6: his trajectory there where his career doesn't really take off
Speaker 6: until he's in that movie Fifth Element, which is have
Speaker 6: y'all seen The Fifth Element?
Speaker 10: His greatest acting no yeah's film Greatest Hair, Greatest Wig.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 2: I think he did too right.
Speaker 6: But it goes back to something that you guys have
Speaker 6: talked about in your show before, the emasculation of a
Speaker 6: black male on screen as the way to catapult a career,
Speaker 6: which made me which yeah, I meant a lot of
Speaker 6: folks have talked about that before, but it just made
Speaker 6: me think about specifically this guy that was in one
Speaker 6: of I don't know Friday was a really important movie,
Speaker 6: but it didn't take off in the same way that
Speaker 6: I don't know his career did when Rush Hour came around,
Speaker 6: right the franchise.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just sorry. I'm just thrown out there and see
Speaker 2: if you guys have thoughts.
Speaker 7: I will say I think that all this speaks more
Speaker 7: of how interesting a guy Chris Tucker, because the femininization
Speaker 7: of a black man in a movie. I think we
Speaker 7: kind of came to the same point on that that
Speaker 7: It's like, that's just like it's a comedy trope. It's
Speaker 7: like if you count how many white men have done it,
Speaker 7: then you start to be like, well, I think this
Speaker 7: is just what people do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: But Chris Tucker in the nineties was everywhere, and I
Speaker 7: think that's what we need to talk about.
Speaker 2: Okay, well specific.
Speaker 5: Well to that, because even Matt, as you were explaining it,
Speaker 5: there's a part of me that starts going damn. Chris
Speaker 5: Tucker has been connected to a lot of sex predators historically,
Speaker 5: like he had he was very close with Michael Jackson,
Speaker 5: he was was on Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs. He is
Speaker 5: to your point, he had a relationship with Puff in
Speaker 5: the past. Like, there's a lot of Chris Tucker just
Speaker 5: hanging out with sex bests and somehow coming out a
Speaker 5: Christian on the other side of it feels more conspiratorial
Speaker 5: to me than the feminization side of it.
Speaker 7: That's exactly how I feel.
Speaker 4: It's it's just on the your numbers game, right, Just statistically,
Speaker 4: how often can you be in those rooms before you
Speaker 4: start to get a weird vibe?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: To what threshold do you exist in these circles?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: Like, at what point do you have to stop saying, well,
Speaker 4: I didn't know, you know, I was just there for
Speaker 4: the snacks they got, Oscar Meyer.
Speaker 5: If this party is sponsored by Mike's hard lemonade, I'm
Speaker 5: drinking stupid tonight. You know what I mean, at some
Speaker 5: point you're gonna have a Mikes then you're gonna be like, well,
Speaker 5: I guess that's what we do.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't know the party was themed that way.
Speaker 7: Exactly.
Speaker 8: Williams is gonna be okay, okay. I just feel like,
Speaker 8: should he be looking out? Should he be looking over
Speaker 8: his shoulder? I mean, he's just like, all this stuff
Speaker 8: that he said has come to pass, like so much
Speaker 8: of it, And at first people were kind of writing
Speaker 8: him off as just being bitter and rambly and whatever.
Speaker 8: But like now it just seems like all the stuff
Speaker 8: that he was spilling is likely very true and it
Speaker 8: involves a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I just wonder if he's got a target on his
Speaker 3: back or what.
Speaker 5: You then, I think that that that insanely talented, insanely
Speaker 5: insane person has navigated harder things then a bunch of
Speaker 5: rich people being mad at him. We watched him get
Speaker 5: beat up by a fourteen year old I knew you
Speaker 5: were going to say in a field once and he
Speaker 5: somehow managed to still be a king of comedy afterwards.
Speaker 5: That's that's an unbeatable character. I have no doubt that
Speaker 5: he will find a way to navigate all of this
Speaker 5: and the huts, you know, after that with tangling with
Speaker 5: the fourteen year old and coming back on his special,
Speaker 5: and then it's just immediately like all right, is like
Speaker 5: I don't what do you want? I don't care. I
Speaker 5: didn't have tea, guys, I moked my teeth away. I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna I'm not gonna feel bad and explain myself
Speaker 5: in a sad way. This is just true psychosis.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: All right, Let's pause here because we're getting into some weirder,
Speaker 4: deeper water. We'll be back with Langston Kerman and David Bori,
Speaker 4: and we have returned.
Speaker 7: Here we go.
Speaker 6: Langston, when you came on and hung out with us
Speaker 6: last time, I tried to make a connection to your
Speaker 6: past as an English teacher and how it kind of
Speaker 6: like informs the way you teach people with your comedy
Speaker 6: and on the show. David, I don't know a ton
Speaker 6: about you when it comes to just maybe a job
Speaker 6: you've held in the past, or a position in your life,
Speaker 6: a relationship that kind of informed the way you talk
Speaker 6: to people about these complex subjects.
Speaker 7: Oh, a pretty regular guy before comedian was Yeah, or
Speaker 7: did a few gas stations scam some old people out
Speaker 7: of some money at a call center for a while
Speaker 7: and worked at a casino.
Speaker 2: But like service position exclusively.
Speaker 7: I only ever had jobs construction for a while, not
Speaker 7: highly skilled, so that was you at the call center.
Speaker 6: But for me, it's about communication, like how and the
Speaker 6: way you guys communicate to get big kind of ideas
Speaker 6: across it. And also just hit that funny moment that again,
Speaker 6: like as a listener, you just somehow grab that thing
Speaker 6: that I was kind of thinking, but I didn't formulate
Speaker 6: it into the way that you guys put it. So
Speaker 6: I just I'm just trying to say, appreciate y'all's communication style.
Speaker 5: I Well, one of the things that I think David
Speaker 5: is especially great at that I am grateful that he
Speaker 5: has this skill that I struggle in sometimes is he
Speaker 5: has an ability to sort of meet people exactly where
Speaker 5: they are and I think sometimes I'm like this, I
Speaker 5: don't want to talk to them. This is frustrating, and
Speaker 5: he's very much like, nah, like I see where you're at.
Speaker 5: I'm down to clown right wherever you need to be,
Speaker 5: because that's just what this conversation sort of requires. And
Speaker 5: I think if I can broaden that a little bit.
Speaker 5: I think that's what makes for good conspiratorial discussions. It's
Speaker 5: not hearing someone's opinion and going that is stupid because
Speaker 5: of X and X belief that I already hold. It's
Speaker 5: being able to say, like, all right, this is what
Speaker 5: you think, and I may not think any of that
Speaker 5: makes sense, but I'm willing to hear you all the
Speaker 5: way to the end of this train so that we
Speaker 5: can decide together whether or not that does in fact
Speaker 5: make sense.
Speaker 6: And you can play back and forth with it a
Speaker 6: little bit to where it doesn't feel crazy or dumb.
Speaker 6: It feels like, oh, we're actually having a conversation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't make discourse by telling people what to
Speaker 4: think or all. Yeah, so I love that point about
Speaker 4: you know, well, maybe I disagree with you, but tell
Speaker 4: me how you got there. Because nobody sees themselves as
Speaker 4: a crazy, irrational lunatic. You know, none of the none
Speaker 4: of the I didn't want to mention it on air,
Speaker 4: but no, none of the like quean on guys are
Speaker 4: saying I woke up one day and decided to be
Speaker 4: wha could Yeah.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm a matrix conversation dude. You were like,
Speaker 8: I hate this on a conceptual level. But I'm not
Speaker 8: saying it's dumb. I think there's a room for this.
Speaker 8: And you go all the way down that rabbit hole,
Speaker 8: like in real time on the podcast, and we see
Speaker 8: you follow it and honestly, and I mean it was
Speaker 8: you never really you know, nagged anybody.
Speaker 3: You were just kind of like there with it.
Speaker 7: I feel like the point is to hear these people out.
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think the point is necessarily for
Speaker 7: me to like inject what I feel, or for me
Speaker 7: to maybe shame these people or tell them why I
Speaker 7: think they're stupid. I think the point is that they
Speaker 7: have something to say, they have an idea to get across,
Speaker 7: and it's my responsibility to assist in that however I can,
Speaker 7: and then hopefully the listeners can make draw their own
Speaker 7: kind of feelings about that.
Speaker 5: And I do think then the most beautiful thing about this,
Speaker 5: this dude fan fiction we're discussing, is less about the
Speaker 5: conclusions of the fan fiction and more about the beautiful
Speaker 5: writing that sort of goes into the building of that
Speaker 5: fan fiction. And that's where I think conspiracy is most fun.
Speaker 5: It's not that Ronald Reagan invented aids, it's that you
Speaker 5: can get somebody to walk you through, step by step
Speaker 5: how they believe Ronald Reagan did, in fact, invent the AIDS.
Speaker 5: And that's fun because it's Ronald Reagan in a lab
Speaker 5: with monkeys and needles and shit.
Speaker 8: It also tells you about the time and what people
Speaker 8: were scared of, and like it's it's the folklore of
Speaker 8: it all kind of, I think.
Speaker 4: And it's Ronald Reagan capable of what remembering what happened
Speaker 4: twenty minutes ago for a sustained amount of time.
Speaker 3: We've seen that the Dennis Quaid Reagan film.
Speaker 7: I take it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Uh, yeah, we've been we've been. Uh, we've been
Speaker 4: doing this back while Ronald Reagan could remember who was president.
Speaker 4: There is so much we got to get to you guys,
Speaker 4: but we are, you know, we we want to be
Speaker 4: respectful your time. If possible, could we play a little
Speaker 4: quick fire conspiracy game. Would you guys be on board?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt and Ole is that okay with you guys?
Speaker 7: All right?
Speaker 4: It's over all right. So here's what we like to do.
Speaker 4: We're just rapid fire from us. We'll give you an
Speaker 4: idea conspiratorial and or paranormal and just let us know
Speaker 4: true or not or why we'll We'll start now with Uh, Dylan,
Speaker 4: could we get a weird sound? Cue?
Speaker 9: Unsettling? Even there we got I'm unsettled. Show unsettling? All right,
Speaker 9: our producer hates this.
Speaker 4: Now here we go. Number one ghost real? No, why
Speaker 4: have you seen one? Thoughts?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I saw one once?
Speaker 5: If Bory has told a pretty harrowing story about seeing
Speaker 5: a ghost, Wait, no.
Speaker 2: Way, are you being serious?
Speaker 7: Or because I truly have no other feeling. I never
Speaker 7: had felt any way about it before after, but I
Speaker 7: did see something so that I think I have to
Speaker 7: acknowledge that. Wow, And I hate ghosts. I think it's lame.
Speaker 7: I think it's stupid for you to hang out. It's
Speaker 7: like a super senior. Don't you have other stuff to Yeah,
Speaker 7: go somewhere you're watching me? You lose it? But yeah, yeah?
Speaker 8: But like, did that change you in a way or
Speaker 8: make you think about it more often, or just like
Speaker 8: reframe the way you thought about something that you felt
Speaker 8: a certain way about prior to that event?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 7: Not not too much really, because I think that at
Speaker 7: least what happened in my experience, it didn't have the
Speaker 7: ghosts of something didn't have the ability to change anything. Right,
Speaker 7: It wasn't like it didn't influence me. It didn't really.
Speaker 7: So it's like I think, if they are here much
Speaker 7: like a senior who stayed so long, they have no
Speaker 7: power anymore. They're just kind of like hanging out and watching.
Speaker 7: So I don't know, that's fine.
Speaker 6: I guess, well, if the movies tell us anything, David,
Speaker 6: they've got unfinished business.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they're not completing it, right.
Speaker 4: What's so special that we all have unfinished business?
Speaker 2: It's all these drawers.
Speaker 5: I wonder if if it is like a super senior
Speaker 5: of like people up in heaven or wherever ghosts go,
Speaker 5: or like these ghost who still go to Earth are
Speaker 5: like pedophiles. They're like weird like prey on human bodies
Speaker 5: in Sikka where we are.
Speaker 7: I'm up here in heaven doing whatever the hell they
Speaker 7: do up there. You're down there trying to avenge your father, Okay.
Speaker 4: Like your dad is here with us. You can't just
Speaker 4: go hang with them.
Speaker 7: If they're real, they're stunted as well, and we should
Speaker 7: feel bad for them.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's a very that's a weirdly empathetic
Speaker 4: way to look at it. Like, you know, maybe they
Speaker 4: need help.
Speaker 6: All right, next one then, well, I feel like that
Speaker 6: was a call out to the boys, which great job, Langston, Oh.
Speaker 4: Thank you there it is there. It is next one
Speaker 4: all right, only because it's one of the most enduring
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories in Western discourse. Moon landings. Do you guys
Speaker 4: believe people landed on the moon?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: I I believe it at some point.
Speaker 7: I think that that happened.
Speaker 5: I believe that we've landed on the Moon. I do
Speaker 5: also believe that there was a big, big money machine
Speaker 5: put behind making sure that we felt like we experienced
Speaker 5: what lands on the Moon was. And I don't know
Speaker 5: that what we saw in what actually happened completely matches
Speaker 5: up right that, Like that is not to suggest that
Speaker 5: that isn't footage, but I think that that is very
Speaker 5: controlled footage. I think that that probably was made maybe
Speaker 5: to look better or more efficient for everybody to see
Speaker 5: at certain points you punched it up. I think that's
Speaker 5: more a possibility than us not going at all. Right,
Speaker 5: there's too many parties involved in that conspiracy to ensure
Speaker 5: that no one went to the moon, and we get
Speaker 5: to tell everybody people went to the moon. But is
Speaker 5: it possible that, like, somebody went to the moon and
Speaker 5: it was a great day, and then y'all had to
Speaker 5: go in the booth and make somebody jump around a
Speaker 5: little bit to make it look a little cooler than
Speaker 5: the grainy footage you tried to collect from the moon
Speaker 5: that day. I'm open to that possibility.
Speaker 4: That's a nuance. I like that. That's one of my
Speaker 4: first times hearing that.
Speaker 2: It's just so reasonable that it's like, I don't think,
Speaker 2: I like, no.
Speaker 5: I feel, I feel the rabbit hole. Yeah, no, it's
Speaker 5: it's not. And and again I don't I think that
Speaker 5: everybody that would claim that we didn't go to the
Speaker 5: moon would say that it has like this more sinister
Speaker 5: plan behind it, that they're trying to trick us into
Speaker 5: something evil because the world ain't even really round and
Speaker 5: they don't want us to know that. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Like that's all silly. It's not that. It's you try
Speaker 5: to get footage. The footage look like, so you get
Speaker 5: X person to to remake said footage look a certain way,
Speaker 5: and then there are some some flaws in the shots
Speaker 5: that you took, much like a Starbucks cup in the
Speaker 5: back of a game of throne shot. There there's continuity
Speaker 5: errors that you didn't account for. Thus you allow conspiracy
Speaker 5: theorists to feed their uh six sick families for another millennia.
Speaker 3: I like it, Matt.
Speaker 4: Do you want to do one? As we're wrapping up.
Speaker 6: Oh, this one's pretty easy because I you know, I
Speaker 6: really do feel like the government conspiracy angle is it's
Speaker 6: the most plausible stuff. I've made a show with another
Speaker 6: group of people about specifically mlk's assassination, but then we've
Speaker 6: talked recently about JFK's assassination, RFK assassination. A bunch of
Speaker 6: these folks who appeared to be bringing human beings together,
Speaker 6: at least on the surface, right, they appear to be
Speaker 6: uniting people. Do you think there's anything to overall the
Speaker 6: government needing to keep us so divided and against each
Speaker 6: other so that humanity never comes together to fight the
Speaker 6: real big power structures.
Speaker 7: Yemm Yeah, totally, Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Differently, no,
Speaker 7: I think that's about right.
Speaker 5: I think look at the end of the day, and
Speaker 5: it's sort of what we talked about before. I think
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, capitalism, by by it's
Speaker 5: it's literal definition requires somebody to be poor inside of it.
Speaker 5: You need more people to not have money in order
Speaker 5: for the wealth to uh stay going up for the
Speaker 5: ones that do manage to get money, and so like,
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you have to that
Speaker 5: can't just be you counting on people spending their money
Speaker 5: poorly forever and always. You have to create systems to
Speaker 5: make sure that they spend their money poorly or don't
Speaker 5: have any money to spend at all. And so I think,
Speaker 5: like you, you know, every four years you at least
Speaker 5: make people re up on a a new opportunity to
Speaker 5: trick them, no matter what the you know that trick
Speaker 5: might be.
Speaker 2: I don't like that at all, but I think you're right, yeah.
Speaker 4: With that's how you can tell when someone's making a
Speaker 4: really good point when you say, I, yeah, I'm uncomfortable
Speaker 4: with that use it feels very true. And this leads
Speaker 4: us to something that we're very excited about. We haven't
Speaker 4: really mentioned it yet, but we have to mention it
Speaker 4: before we close. You guys are going on tour and
Speaker 4: Matt Nolan, I are very excited about this. Could you
Speaker 4: tell us a little bit about Start the Steal twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four?
Speaker 7: Yeah, boy, I forgot what we called it, that.
Speaker 5: This is their brain child.
Speaker 7: Well, no, it's not my brain child. It's just a
Speaker 7: very funny tour I thought it is. Yeah, we're going
Speaker 7: out to fifteen cities. We're doing our live show. We
Speaker 7: have some special guests a few cities. It's just Langston
Speaker 7: and I and it's just like our show. It's it's
Speaker 7: like hearted a lot more than it's serious. We play
Speaker 7: some games, we sell some merch. We do meet and
Speaker 7: greets where lengths and kisses everyone on the mouth.
Speaker 5: Who and it's not up for debate. You you get
Speaker 5: in line, you get a kiss. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: do that weird shit where you go. I don't want
Speaker 5: to kiss, but can I get a picture? No, everybody
Speaker 5: gets a kiss. But it's on record all right now
Speaker 5: to live up to that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know specific you guys are coming to Atlanta.
Speaker 6: We talk a lot about you know, we live in Atlanta.
Speaker 6: You're going to be here?
Speaker 7: Is that?
Speaker 2: Do we have a specific date for that?
Speaker 7: Because October thirty, first Halloween.
Speaker 5: Halloween. Bring your children.
Speaker 2: May No, I don't want you kiss them.
Speaker 4: That's a lie.
Speaker 5: Oh boy, but now I regret what I said. Well,
Speaker 5: now I put myself in a nasty and I see,
Speaker 5: I see where the mistake was made.
Speaker 7: That's on me.
Speaker 5: I will be issuing a response podcast.
Speaker 7: After this one.
Speaker 4: Oh the whole series. Check out the episodes, but do
Speaker 4: check out before that comes out. Do check out my
Speaker 4: Mama told me. It's absolute banger. As you can tell,
Speaker 4: we are fans here. Do join us. We are going
Speaker 4: to be there October thirty first to check out the
Speaker 4: guys live here in Atlanta a City winery. You can
Speaker 4: also learn all of the dates for the upcoming live
Speaker 4: show going to the instagram at my Mama told Me
Speaker 4: pod David Linkston For anybody else where can they learn
Speaker 4: more about your work outside of the show.
Speaker 5: You can follow me at Langston Carrman on all social
Speaker 5: media platforms. I'm the only one with this stupid name.
Speaker 5: And oh you can watch my special it's called Bad Poetry.
Speaker 5: It's on Netflix. And more importantly, come see us live.
Speaker 5: We have a bunch of dates beginning in early October,
Speaker 5: uh well mid October. That starts in d C. Then Detroit,
Speaker 5: then Chicago, and then a bunch of other places, including Atlanta.
Speaker 5: And we would love for y'all to join us.
Speaker 2: There, aren't you on a show called English Teacher something.
Speaker 5: That English Teacher.
Speaker 7: Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 10: No, it's like it's it's so wholesome and like kind
Speaker 10: I just I mean, it's you know, it's got subversive
Speaker 10: elements to it, but it's just I find it too.
Speaker 10: I watch it with my kid and like it's tricksy motel,
Speaker 10: you know, like, I mean, everything about it is just
Speaker 10: like so it's like a sitcom for our generation or
Speaker 10: something their generation.
Speaker 3: I think it's amazing.
Speaker 7: Thank you. Yeah. Oh Instagram cool guy jokes City seven.
Speaker 7: I have a special that I did. It's called Birth
Speaker 7: of a Nation with a G. Don't type in, I
Speaker 7: mean you can type in much longer.
Speaker 5: And more important, more important.
Speaker 7: More important. But yeah, you can find that on my Patreon,
Speaker 7: Patreon dot com backslash David Borie gbo.
Speaker 2: R I E amazing. Thank you guys, Thanks guys.
Speaker 7: We love.
Speaker 5: This is a pleasure for us. We love the show.
Speaker 5: We love talking to you guys. This is great, man,
Speaker 5: what a ride.
Speaker 4: As we're as we were saying, Matt, we didn't even
Speaker 4: get to all the other stuff that's on the way.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna have to have these guys back.
Speaker 6: Oh for sure, I think we need to do it
Speaker 6: at least yearly, if not twice a year, hanging out
Speaker 6: with those guys.
Speaker 2: They are fantastic.
Speaker 6: Uh Hey, if you want to follow us and check
Speaker 6: us out, we're all over the internet. You can find
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Speaker 2: Do not forget the YouTube page at Conspiracy Stuff. Go
Speaker 2: hang out there for sure.
Speaker 4: And if you would like to kiss us on the
Speaker 4: telephonic mal as Lengthston would say, why do not give
Speaker 4: us a phone call? We have a number. It is
Speaker 4: singing along at home one eight three three stdwytk Matt.
Speaker 4: What happens when someone crosses that rubicon?
Speaker 6: Well, first they regret it, and then they are really
Speaker 6: enjoying it again and then regret sinks back in.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just joking.
Speaker 6: When you call in, you give yourself a cool nickname
Speaker 6: and let us know if we can use your name
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Speaker 6: to say than could fit in a three minute voicemail,
Speaker 6: instead you send us an email.
Speaker 7: We are the.
Speaker 4: Entities that read every piece of correspondence we receive. We
Speaker 4: welcome it gratefully. You don't have to just reply to
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