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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 3: My name is Matt, my name is Noel.

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Speaker 4: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 4: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan and you are you.

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Speaker 4: You are here that makes this the stuff they don't

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Speaker 4: want you to know. Fellow conspiracy realist, we have something

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Speaker 4: special in store.

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Speaker 5: For you this evening.

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Speaker 4: We are joined with Get This guys, not one, but

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Speaker 4: two special guests, Langston Kerman and David Borie. These are

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Speaker 4: the writers, the actors, the comedians, the creators also of

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Speaker 4: one of our favorite podcasts on the planet, No Smoke.

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Speaker 4: My mama told me, guys, thanks for coming on the show.

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Speaker 5: What an intro, What a time.

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Speaker 6: You know, we we we joked around last time we

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Speaker 6: hung out with you guys that we listened to your

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Speaker 6: show in the car and like we literally actually do

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Speaker 6: and it's it's so much fun to almost talk with

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Speaker 6: you guys. And because you bring up some topics you

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Speaker 6: I heard you all talking about sprite the other day

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Speaker 6: on one of your mother Freaking mini episodes.

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Speaker 2: I have a nine year old, so I gotta be

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Speaker 6: But dude, David, you you brought up randomly Edward Burnees

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Speaker 6: and I was just sitting there just going like, man,

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Speaker 6: how did David find out about Edward Burnees? A lot

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Speaker 6: of people don't know about this person, like man, the myth,

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Speaker 6: the leg.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm a weird guy.

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Speaker 5: Know, it's so wonderful that was also a weird guy

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Speaker 5: he is.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, is there a part of you that's like simultaneously

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Speaker 8: impressed by the guy while also realizing that his legacy

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Speaker 8: is one of terror?

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Speaker 7: And how could you not be impressed by the man's

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Speaker 7: work the things he did, like how he got women

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Speaker 7: to start smoking cigarets. Yes, obviously terrible, but pretty cool story.

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Speaker 8: So the American people trash meets and called it breakfasts,

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Speaker 4: And then he was like, yeah, Bacon worked out let's

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Speaker 4: overthrow Guatemala.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you seem to not know who Edward was.

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Speaker 5: And I remain not that word up on Edward, And

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Speaker 5: so I'm excited to hear all of his antics listed

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Speaker 5: in bullet point structure. I mean check it.

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Speaker 4: Out and we have returned. I'm going to be honest

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Speaker 4: you guys, I am much more excited to have you

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Speaker 4: all on our show than Edward Bernese. As Matt mentioned,

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Speaker 4: he is one of the first sith Lords that we

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Speaker 4: learned about, godfather of.

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Speaker 3: P r H the first episode of the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Yep and wha yeah, the book Propaganda available online.

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Speaker 3: I seem like a great place to start, though.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, since we've got two folks, one

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Speaker 8: you're a little less familiar. But I mean the idea

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Speaker 8: of this dude who basically invented advertising, Like, how could

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Speaker 8: he not be like a sith lord type figure given

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Speaker 8: the way things have gone in terms of like, you know,

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Speaker 8: capitalism and just the absolute explosion of you know, consumer culture.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 7: Want you guys to feel bad. I'm also the nephew

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Speaker 7: of Freud, so.

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Speaker 4: I only forgot about that, all right.

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Speaker 2: I think we got in the podcast.

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Speaker 8: But I mean just the idea of like weaponizing psychology,

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Speaker 8: a place for advertising where it can be a good thing.

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Speaker 8: But do you guys have thoughts on just the nature

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Speaker 5: basically being a poison that led to all of it. Like,

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Speaker 5: there is very there are very few conspiracies that you

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Speaker 5: and be like, well, he did it. That was him

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Speaker 7: Us.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how to convince y'all to join me

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Speaker 4: And there are more of us, yeah, and.

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Speaker 7: Firstly, I want to say that my mama told me

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Speaker 7: pod is brought to you by Oscar Meyer.

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Speaker 3: Trash meat.

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Speaker 5: That's actually one hundred percent, and we got to get

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Speaker 5: that in there. We have gift cards to prove it.

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Speaker 4: Amazing.

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Speaker 7: I never got mine because I didn't want my name

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Speaker 7: on the me. But no, there.

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Speaker 6: There are so many lists out there that you can man,

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Speaker 6: I can't even remember the episode you guys were just

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Speaker 6: I've got in my notes somewhere, but just leak, right,

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Speaker 6: I think that was it.

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Speaker 7: That was it?

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Speaker 5: Oh sure, yeah, now that Chase leak was fast. I

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Speaker 3: Everybody, yeah, social security number, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Because the leak implies that there was stuff left over

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Speaker 5: Or even it implies that there's like there's a winnable

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Speaker 5: Like there are times where like these airlines years ago,

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Speaker 5: get the tickets. They would immediately fix it and there

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Speaker 5: was no accountability on the other end. This was not

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Speaker 5: an accident. This was this was clearly just misinformation that

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Speaker 5: was leading people to commit check fraud. It's insane.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, just.

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Speaker 6: For context, it was you would you would write a

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Speaker 6: And then Chase was like, oh, by the way, we have.

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Speaker 2: A lot of money to suit everybody.

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Speaker 5: We we knew we set it up that way. We

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Speaker 5: but we certainly are going to take all our money back.

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Speaker 7: It's like, don't eat tidepods. They look delicious, but you

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Speaker 4: I agree, Like the burden is on the consumer there,

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Speaker 5: If you hear about a get rich quick scheme and

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Speaker 5: little bit there, big dog, What are we talking about?

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Speaker 3: Why do you say the retide pods?

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Speaker 8: I think it's no coincidence that Baja Blast is as

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Speaker 8: toilet bowl cleaner colored. I personally do. I like Smurf gummies.

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Speaker 8: I'm a big fan of stuff that turns my weird colors.

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Speaker 7: The podcast, I love the color blue as something to ingest.

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Speaker 4: Yes, blue foods, Yeah, drinks mostly guys.

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Speaker 3: The die is probably fine for you. I'm certain.

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Speaker 3: Blue raspberry, that's naturally occurring fruit.

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Speaker 7: That's why they have to hit you with qualifiers like electric.

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Speaker 4: Exactly right, or like how juicy fruit is based on

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Speaker 4: mama told me? What is it? How did you all meet?

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Speaker 4: And dare I say conspire? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: We conspire bi weekly, I would say, no twice a

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Speaker 6: stepping your toes here, but there's nothing better than the

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Speaker 5: You know, I have long equated conspiracy theory to a

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Speaker 5: It's just straight man fan fiction where you are obsessed

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Speaker 5: this is, but you're just making up stuff and we

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Speaker 4: your thoughts here. What do conspiracies and comedy have in common?

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Speaker 4: Because like conspiracies, as you said, kind of dude fan fiction.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think it. I think it definitely comes

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Speaker 5: it's not evil, but it certainly is. I ain't telling

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Speaker 9: You guys are right. I mean I've survived the troubles.

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Speaker 4: Oh Bertram, We're just glad you're not dead, right, But

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Speaker 8: And aid receipts left on those psychotic behavior I just

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Speaker 7: Put on because what do you do? Well, you know

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Speaker 7: I don't have it on. You put it on for me. Now.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes it's a message where it's just LMAO. But

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Speaker 5: Now, yeah, you gotta bounce something back here.

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Speaker 6: Come on, all right, and with that, guys, we're going

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Speaker 4: You guys do a tremendous job of applying. When I

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Speaker 5: Bory, I'll let you do. Maybe you have a better

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Speaker 7: Langston for allowing me to be Lucy Goosey. As far

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Speaker 7: as the format he does the research, I don't so

442
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Speaker 7: at the top he asked me what I think, and

443
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Speaker 7: a lot of times my mind gets changed or whatever

444
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Speaker 7: because I'm really I am forming my opinion on the spot.

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Speaker 7: So I think just yeah, trying to be responsible and

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Speaker 7: upen minded.

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Speaker 4: Was there ever anything though that, like you came in

448
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Speaker 4: thinking this is BS and you walked out things this

449
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Speaker 4: is true.

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Speaker 7: I hate to be that guy, but most of the government,

451
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Speaker 7: based on they would never they never do anything like that.

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Speaker 6: And then last time we hung out with you, David,

453
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Speaker 6: we had just written a book where the entire thing

454
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Speaker 6: was about government specific conspiracies, and I think we were

455
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Speaker 6: I think we still probably feel that way that the

456
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Speaker 6: government ends up getting over on all kinds of weird

457
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Speaker 6: things that you wouldn't expect to happen until you you

458
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Speaker 6: actually can get the receipts from the past and go,

459
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Speaker 6: oh wow, they actually did that and there's documents.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Bory, we talked about this recently. The

461
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Speaker 5: washing your chicken was something that I think we both

462
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Speaker 5: went in like sort of like, nah, you wash a chicken.

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Speaker 5: That's very normal and healthy, and then by the time

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Speaker 5: you finish, there's a fair amount of evidence that suggests

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Speaker 5: you're not supposed to be doing that. But then it

466
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Speaker 5: also becomes this weird cultural thing of being ali. Well, well, no,

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Speaker 5: we're still gonna wash our chicken.

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Speaker 8: Animals is the idea that it can actually spread salmonella

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Speaker 8: like around your kitchen to other surfaces.

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Speaker 3: Like it's not.

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Speaker 5: Only does it spread it to other surfaces, it's literally

472
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Speaker 5: spreading it better onto the chicken. Yeah, it's like coating

473
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Speaker 5: the chicken in a fine salmonilla glaze instead of just

474
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Speaker 5: clunked up. In certain areas, I feel.

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Speaker 6: Like if you get enough hot sauce involved with your chicken, though,

476
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Speaker 6: you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Kill anything that's just slater with hot sauce.

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Speaker 4: That's let's cut the chicken out entirely. Let's just be

479
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Speaker 4: like hot sausitarians.

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Speaker 8: This is one I'd love to hear your tick unders

481
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Speaker 8: thinking about raw chicken, like you know, the idea that

482
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Speaker 8: it will kill you instantly, or that salmonella will like

483
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Speaker 8: you know, absolutely just end your life if you get it.

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Speaker 8: I mean, in Japan they do sashimi uh raw chicken.

485
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Speaker 8: It's a thing and is this a matter of like

486
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Speaker 8: their meat is just better over there. They grow it,

487
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Speaker 8: they raise it differently. Why is that okay?

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Speaker 3: And we're not hearing all these stories out of Japan

489
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Speaker 3: if people dropping dead eating row.

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Speaker 4: Chicken, well nol as our official representative of the Nation

491
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Speaker 4: of Japan, No.

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Speaker 7: A lot.

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Speaker 4: No, No, it's a great I mean, I'd love to, uh,

494
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Speaker 4: because it is true that that is part of it,

495
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Speaker 4: and that's a complaint sometimes people will have when they

496
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Speaker 4: visit there. It's like, hey, this is undercooked. H we

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Speaker 4: can see also, you know, uh, similar complaints in like

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Speaker 4: steakhouses here in the US. You know, you got the

499
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Speaker 4: you got the beef. Absolutist who are like, oh, a

500
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Speaker 4: good steak just has to be gently pushed by a

501
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Speaker 4: radiator for five seconds, you know, and otherwise you're wasting it.

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Speaker 4: And then other people are saying, no, I don't want

503
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Speaker 4: to risk diseases, please cook this all the way. So

504
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Speaker 4: maybe it's a cultural thing. There's definitely science to it,

505
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Speaker 4: but I'm interested in what you guys think. You have

506
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Speaker 4: you heard about this undercooked chicken thing.

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Speaker 7: I haven't, but I don't know. I feel like every

508
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Speaker 7: country's got their meat that they kind of are too

509
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Speaker 7: easy on right or a big place. We barely cook it.

510
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Speaker 7: That's probably how they lot with chicken and fish. I

511
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Speaker 7: don't I'm terrible, so I don't. I think I could

512
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Speaker 7: handle chicken sashi. I'm not like afraid of meat in

513
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Speaker 7: that way, which is not a great traite.

514
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Speaker 8: A healthy fear of meat is probably good for just

515
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Speaker 8: general survival.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's it's ever been.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it would be a texture issue for

518
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Speaker 5: me eating raw chicken, but I don't know. I think

519
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Speaker 5: I've certainly seen the videos of people eating the raw chicken,

520
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Speaker 5: and I will say I have no sense of like

521
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Speaker 5: how their chicken could be raised to be less diseased

522
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Speaker 5: versus ours. But I do know, like having spent months

523
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Speaker 5: in other countries, I always lose weight no matter where

524
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Speaker 5: I am. Oh yeah, that's like I spent a month

525
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Speaker 5: in Scotland and was eating the same bullshit I eat

526
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Speaker 5: here and immediately lost like fifteen pounds. And it truly

527
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Speaker 5: is just because I think our foods are coated in

528
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Speaker 5: all kinds of sugars and poisons that we often don't

529
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Speaker 5: realize are there. And so yeah, the possibility of another

530
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Speaker 5: country having a healthier version of the thing seems well

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Speaker 5: within reason to me.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

533
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Speaker 2: Let me Linston.

534
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Speaker 6: Do you eat a lot of bread in your diet ever,

535
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Speaker 6: or is that pretty much cut out of your diet

536
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Speaker 6: at this point?

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Speaker 5: I try to avoid it, but I certainly do. I'd

538
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Speaker 5: be lying if I said I didn't, but it's definitely

539
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Speaker 5: an effort not to.

540
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do the same thing.

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Speaker 6: We learned not that long ago about the sugar content

542
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Speaker 6: in almost all breads that are created here in the US,

543
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Speaker 6: and just how sugar.

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Speaker 4: It's basically cake. When people come to the US from

545
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Speaker 4: other countries, they're like, why is every sandwich cake? Sandwich?

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Speaker 3: Question? Is it cake?

547
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Speaker 5: Is?

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Speaker 6: The answer is always yes, well, and you translate that

549
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Speaker 6: to a lot of like sauces and stuff too that

550
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 6: end up having like a hypertos corns or in it

551
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Speaker 6: or something that just gets slathered on whatever you're eating.

552
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 6: And hey, it's fine here, but you go to another

553
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 6: place and it's mostly herbal like based or something or oil.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, every every like Instagram workout dude, that ever like

555
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 5: tells you how to get in shape. It's just like, oh,

556
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Speaker 5: cut out salad, dressing and bread, and you're lying, I

557
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 5: and then you know, I put salad. What is the

558
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 5: salad without salad dressing? What do you want me to do?

559
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Speaker 5: I'm not an animal. I just want to I just

560
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Speaker 5: want to see my abs again if the if at

561
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Speaker 5: all possible.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would cut back, maybe not entirely upstanding. It's

563
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Speaker 8: a little drizzled.

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Speaker 4: That's weird too, because we're also now we're getting to

565
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Speaker 4: the conversation about credibility, which is something you guys are

566
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: super sharp at as well, which is you know, we're

567
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: inundated with what I'm gonna sound like a jerk. I'm

568
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: fine with it. Anytime a world event occurs that is unfortunate.

569
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Speaker 4: It is amazing how quickly people get their PhDs and

570
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: how quickly they are immediately believed as as though their gospel.

571
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Speaker 4: You know, Hey, TikTok, it's me, your boy. Jonathan Wilson

572
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: went down in Lebanon and back in two thousand and six,

573
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Speaker 4: I met a guy who went to Lebanon for a

574
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Speaker 4: cousin's wedding. So let me tell you about the Middle East.

575
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the quick finger experts are quick Finger are are

576
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 5: They're They're plentiful at this point, and it is sort

577
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: of a frustrating game to try to decipher between them.

578
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Speaker 5: I'm grateful that we have a common podcasts first because

579
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Speaker 5: it allows us the space to really just make fun

580
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 5: of what we think these people are saying, more than

581
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 5: owing it to an audience to give them the correct answer.

582
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 5: On the other side of it that like I, I

583
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 5: do not have any expertise in what's happening in the

584
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Speaker 5: Middle East, certainly not to the scale that I probably should. Therefore,

585
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 5: I'll just make fun of a dumb dumb who I

586
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 5: know is incorrect more than I have to give you

587
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: the right one, and.

588
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Speaker 3: We thank you for your service.

589
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

590
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Speaker 6: I saw I saw your episode come up with x

591
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 6: MIO and it was about fentanyl, and I was like,

592
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 6: oh crap, I don't know if I can even listen

593
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 6: to this because it's actually that's affected my life personally,

594
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 6: that substance. And I was I didn't think I'd be

595
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 6: able to listen to it. But the just the intro

596
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 6: alone where it's like the whole first before the ad break,

597
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 6: you didn't even like say x Mile's name, and y'all

598
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 6: just had so much fun talking about podcast no no,

599
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 6: but it was fun. It is what I'm trying to

600
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 6: get across, And uh, you did hit you did hit

601
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Speaker 6: the pretty heavy stuff towards the end there about like

602
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Speaker 6: all the different kinds of drugs that have been infiltrated

603
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 6: with that substance and potentially why, And I kind of

604
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 6: want to be honest, I wanted you all to go

605
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 6: further into it a little bit because it does feel

606
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 6: like a similar thing to when the US poisoned the

607
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 6: alcohol back in the day on purpose to kill people

608
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Speaker 6: drinking alcohol.

609
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, It's true.

610
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Speaker 6: It feels like a sneaky substance that could end up

611
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 6: in whatever drug supply, Uh, honestly, any substance supply, and

612
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 6: it could be used to kill people.

613
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: You guys believe it's on the decline.

614
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Speaker 8: I heard a stat that it's like the overdoses from

615
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 8: fentanyl are like way down.

616
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: Well they're killing their market.

617
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Speaker 3: Well, I'd say, yeah, I've always I've always wondered too.

618
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Speaker 8: And it's also like, why would you put fentanyl in

619
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Speaker 8: what's supposed to be a stimulant. I've never understood this

620
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 8: idea that like where is this coming into the supply

621
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 8: chain and why it doesn't seem very effective as like no, well,

622
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Speaker 8: trick them into thinking it's cocaine, but it's actually gonna

623
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Speaker 8: like put them to sleep or.

624
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 7: Like you know, yeah, who does that benefit?

625
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: I think some of it is that they made it

626
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 5: too popular, right that, like now everybody knows to look

627
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 5: out for said drug. Everybody knows that like these overdoses

628
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 5: that we may have been like attributing as something else

629
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 5: are now almost always finanyl. So they're gonna have to

630
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Speaker 5: come up with like a new game or at least

631
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 5: a new drug to make this work. Like you can't

632
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Speaker 5: keep tricking people with the same trick over and over again.

633
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Speaker 7: Awareness is so high of it now, test strips are everywhere.

634
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Speaker 3: It just seems like it.

635
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Speaker 4: Makes Who's the day?

636
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 7: Though?

637
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Speaker 3: Is it cartels or is it more sinister than that?

638
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: Is it like work around? That's what I've always wondered.

639
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: Why would they do it?

640
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Speaker 8: It doesn't seem like a very smart workaround to like

641
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 8: kill your customer base.

642
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: Short term gain. Maybe if you step on it the

643
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 4: right way, then you can adulterate ustan such that you

644
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: can make more money selling it.

645
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Speaker 5: But I also think, I mean, I think we're we're

646
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Speaker 5: also talking if we're if I'm applying that day, I

647
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 5: think that this feels political, right that like so long

648
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 5: as people are overdosing on this what seems like impossible

649
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 5: drug to control, then then you always have an argument

650
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 5: for controlling our borders, for managing crime in this country. Yes,

651
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: there's a bunch of others that sort of is deeply

652
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 5: connected to drug overdoses and immediately gets those associations. It's

653
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 5: the reason why, like every Trump rally, the one thing

654
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: he can really get them amped up on is being like,

655
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: there's gangs coming and they're selling your kids drugs and

656
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 5: they're killing them. And everybody's like, because that sounds scary,

657
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 5: and so like, as long as you and I all

658
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Speaker 5: have somebody that we know that's either overdosed or come close,

659
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 5: then it is a true story and it benefits the

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00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 5: you know, the powers that be.

661
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a powerful point because there is at some

662
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Speaker 4: juncture there is a very valid argument that perhaps agencies

663
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: whose entire existence is based on a war on drugs,

664
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: maybe they don't want that war to be quote unquote

665
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 4: one over because.

666
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've lost it with weed.

667
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 8: I mean, it was the easy go to and now

668
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 8: it's kind of like that's just you can't really do

669
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 8: that anymore.

670
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 3: So they got to have something else.

671
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Speaker 5: We haven't won a war since World War Two. Yeah,

672
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Speaker 5: And part of that is just because they were like, oh,

673
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 5: we can't have definitive wins anymore, do you know what

674
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: I mean? Like, it doesn't actually benefit us to like

675
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 5: blow a country out of the water, because that looks

676
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 5: bad on us and creates this this history we'll have

677
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 5: to apologize for. Instead, you can kind of fade things

678
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 5: into the distance until you've sort of wrung out all

679
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: the money and resources you can get out.

680
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Speaker 3: Of it, for sure.

681
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Speaker 6: But we've won a ton of proxy wars or conflicts,

682
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 6: right like what you were talking about Linkston, where we

683
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 6: drain an enemy dry of their resources. But then we

684
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 6: still build, you know, f thirty five Lightnings or whatever

685
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 6: they're called, these new jets that cost eighty five million

686
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 6: dollars a pop. And if we don't have anybody to

687
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 6: attack with those jets, then why the heck would Lockheed

688
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 6: Martin continue to build them? And then what happens to

689
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 6: the economy when Lockheed Martin stock goes all the way

690
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 6: down and you know, it just becomes this weird cycle

691
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 6: of a thing that means somebody's got to be shooting

692
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Speaker 6: and killing somebody else.

693
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it and.

694
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 5: Again, if we're talking about what capitalism is, it's that

695
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: it's somebody has to die in order for these businesses

696
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: and people to sort of stay afloat. And so yeah,

697
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 5: we got to keep the party going. So yeah, a

698
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: little fittonol every once in a while, will we'll pull

699
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 5: it back some We'll do a heart you know, we'll

700
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 5: make people feel a little more confident that something has

701
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 5: been done, and then we'll amp it back up and

702
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: make sure that a few overdoses happen nearby so that

703
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Speaker 5: we have something to talk about in the next election

704
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 5: and the next wave of people we need to put

705
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Speaker 5: in power.

706
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Speaker 8: Isn't that like sort of like the kind of false

707
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 8: flag thing that some folks on the right would say

708
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 8: the left is doing with gun control, Like just to

709
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 8: put that out there, I'm.

710
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Speaker 3: Not saying I think that, but it does just to

711
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: talk about both sides.

712
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Speaker 8: You know, there are people that say where there are

713
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 8: folks that are manufacturing these events that lead to a

714
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Speaker 8: conversation around getting.

715
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: Rid of guns or taking away our guns.

716
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Speaker 8: And so what we're saying is maybe there's a side

717
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 8: that is injecting this fentanyl into the system in order

718
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Speaker 8: to manipulate and wield some amount of control.

719
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Speaker 7: And I think also when you flood, when you flood

720
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 7: the market or you flood the people, you don't have

721
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 7: to manufacture those events because there's so much, such a surplus.

722
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: Of framing them, were contextualizing them.

723
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Speaker 4: Well.

724
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Speaker 6: I really liked your discussion on that episode, specifically about

725
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 6: potential being a way to get taxes out out of

726
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 6: a whole different set of customers, right who now can

727
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 6: no longer buy drugs from somebody that they know they

728
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 6: have to go down to a dispensary somewhere and pay

729
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 6: whatever tax eventually will be a federal tax. Mean, that

730
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Speaker 6: made maybe more sense to me than it should have.

731
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I do think to both of those

732
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 5: sort of questions of both the false flag and the taxes.

733
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Speaker 5: To me, so much of what this is is not

734
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 5: when I think about conspiracy theory, it is rarely a

735
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 5: very brilliant man in a very high tower manipulating like

736
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Speaker 5: chess pieces. This is a bunch of dumb dums who

737
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 5: accidentally figured out that this drug is easy to overdose on,

738
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 5: and instead of holding themselves accountable, they go, well, leave

739
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: it out there and see how many people we can

740
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Speaker 5: sort of at least manipulate by the results of this

741
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 5: to gain what we need. So it's not it's not

742
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 5: even that I think that there's some mastermind plan to

743
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 5: put guns in schools and kill children so that they

744
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 5: can make it political. It's that they won't do anything

745
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 5: to prevent the killing of children, and then they know

746
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: they plan to make it political. On the other end,

747
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: both liberal you know, conservative arguments exist in all of

748
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 5: this stuff.

749
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, sin of negligence, right exactly. And this is this

750
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: is something that I think is inescapable for anybody who

751
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: really really puts some time into thinking through this. And

752
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: I love the point we're getting at here, which is

753
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 4: there's always that question. Is there some as you said,

754
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: guy at a high tower, is there some single global

755
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 4: cabal that runs the world right and doesn't want you

756
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 4: to know the Tubac and Elvis or a lot for

757
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: some reason. But what's it seems more often at least

758
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Speaker 4: an hour collective experience. I don't want to speak for

759
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 4: the guys here, so I should amend that, at least

760
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: to me, it seems like there are a bunch of

761
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: people who want to control the world and feel like

762
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: they should, and they all hate each other. They'll get

763
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Speaker 4: along a little bit when the ends are justifying, you know,

764
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: whatever their goal is. But with whenever we come up

765
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Speaker 4: against questions like the illuminati or what is a real

766
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 4: or fake conspiracy theory, I'm one hundred percent on board

767
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 4: with you guys. It typically turns out to be people

768
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Speaker 4: who messed up and want to try to cover up

769
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Speaker 4: what they messed up, or people who already have some

770
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Speaker 4: power and they want more power. I don't think you

771
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Speaker 4: need aliens to explain that.

772
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Speaker 3: We the a hard time.

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Speaker 8: I think believing in the benevolent politician or like the

774
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Speaker 8: batal politician who made this path for their lives in

775
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Speaker 8: order to help people on either side. I mean, again,

776
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 8: not speaking for the group, but me and myself, I

777
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 8: don't trust any of them, and I don't think that's

778
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 8: a particularly you know, alarmist position.

779
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 7: No, no, not at all. These people are psychos. His

780
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 7: job requirement, the want to do it is what disqualifies

781
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Speaker 7: you from being trustworthy.

782
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: Yes.

783
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had this argument with my wife a million

784
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: times because I think my wife tends to vote very

785
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 5: She's she's a liberal voting person. She's she is not

786
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 5: a cynic like myself. She's she sort of tends to

787
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 5: be in line with a lot of the Democratic agenda

788
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. And she loves Barack Obama

789
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 5: and was so excited at times where she gets to

790
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 5: meet him or or be in a room where he

791
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 5: once sat and would come back and tell me the thing.

792
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 5: I'll be like, but he but he's a psychopath. What

793
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 5: are you celebrating like it? As an absolute psychopath? And

794
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: it's not personal to him, it's it's Kamala's one. Trump

795
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 5: is one obviously, George w his daddy. They're all psychopaths

796
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 5: because they they literally sat down and were like, I'm

797
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 5: going to be the greatest person in the world. I'm

798
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 5: going to become the world's champion despite all of.

799
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 7: This whole thing.

800
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Speaker 5: Imagine looking at Lebron James and being like, I'll beat him.

801
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Speaker 7: No, I got it.

802
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Speaker 8: Do you think the notion that they're psychopaths and that

803
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 8: what someone like Kamala or Barack Obama represents as a

804
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 8: positive thing can coexist?

805
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

806
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: Like?

807
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, as a positive thing like the Barack Obama's

808
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 8: first black president, Kamala Harris, whatever it might represent to

809
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 8: certain people, that could serve as a positive thing, while

810
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 8: also it existing that they're not great people like.

811
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

812
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Speaker 5: I do think that we, like I was saying before,

813
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 5: we need to be sheep sometimes and and especially in

814
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 5: the system that's laid out before us. Now, if we

815
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 5: want to have a bigger conversation about whether or not

816
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 5: the very structure that we're all trapped in is correct,

817
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: I got different feelings on it, but I do think

818
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 5: if we exist in the world that we exist in,

819
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: then people need to be inspired and need to feel motivated.

820
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Speaker 5: And I think those kinds of psychopaths can sometimes be

821
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: exactly what we need to make someone a better version

822
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 5: of themselves. Now does that make for a greater good

823
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: in terms of our society? Societal survival? Are are the

824
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 5: survival of humanity? I'm not convinced, but but I don't

825
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 5: know that I know what the alternative is?

826
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Speaker 7: That exactly.

827
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: The alternative is a thousand bottles of mineral oil?

828
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Speaker 7: Do it, Matt, I thought you were going to be

829
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 7: the one to bring it up.

830
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Speaker 5: The political dog almost completely covers the Didny time.

831
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Speaker 7: That sounds like.

832
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Speaker 2: It is our foremost.

833
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 5: Expert in all things.

834
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the photos, So Sean, uh, Sean are surprised.

835
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, God, please.

836
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: He said it was a bad boy for life.

837
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Speaker 7: Man.

838
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Speaker 4: I just sometimes when people tell you stuff, you should

839
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: listen to what they say. But so, okay, So this

840
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 4: is something that Noel, Matt and I were Obviously we're nerds,

841
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 4: so we're constantly talking about anything that pops up in

842
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: the world of Uh. I mean, did he got charged

843
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: with conspiracy and trafficking and the Feds we were just

844
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: talking about this, uh, matter of fact, old before we rolled.

845
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 7: Uh.

846
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: The Feds do not move forward on those kind of

847
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: cases unless they're pretty certain conviction. And it's because they

848
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: won't pursue it unless they're convinced. So, like, what are

849
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: your takes? I mean, this feels like it goes back

850
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: to earlier Illuminati questions, you know, and the cabals and

851
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 4: all that crap.

852
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, usually I think this one's pretty cut and dry.

853
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: What about the connections? I mean, you know, what about

854
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: like how does it ripple?

855
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 10: You know?

856
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 5: I will say that that pretty shortly after his arrest,

857
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 5: I think it was like a day later, they announced

858
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: that he was on suicide watch. That this man who

859
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 5: has never once even shown a sign of not believing

860
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 5: in himself even in the lowest times of humanity, suddenly

861
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 5: was willing to take his own life. And I didn't

862
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 5: buy that. The lawyer like instant that to that felt crazy,

863
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: where like, if there's a lot of people on this

864
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 5: planet that I genuinely believe might hurt themselves, and obviously

865
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 5: there are a ton of reasons why somebody might make

866
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 5: that choice, Puffy, I'm not buying it, No, sir, that

867
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: man was fine and y'all had plants.

868
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: He's the guy who looked at Lebron and said, yeah,

869
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: I could do basketball. I guess, but yeah, yeah, do

870
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: you guys see any of that.

871
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 6: The only one to one for me is Jeffrey Epstein,

872
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 6: where it appears to be somebody who had dirt on

873
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 6: a lot of other people and that was the ammunition

874
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 6: that he kept his empire going. I don't know if

875
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 6: that's the same for Sean Combs, but it seems like

876
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 6: there's some parallels.

877
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 7: I think that there's an element of it. I don't

878
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 7: think that that was the primary thing that was keeping

879
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 7: his empire going, but I think that I think I

880
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 7: think I think there's definitely an element of that of

881
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 7: like he knows he's taking everybody down with him, And.

882
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 5: I think it's a scale thing, right, Like I think

883
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 5: that the types of billionaires that Jeffrey Epstein could take down,

884
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 5: and this is no disrespect to him, are are putting

885
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 5: in a little bit more of an imprint than jay Z.

886
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 7: Do you know what I mean?

887
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 5: Like the scale, it just isn't the same level of

888
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 5: threat to like our function as a society.

889
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 7: It's a different network.

890
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're taking down Bill Gates to fail type stuff, right,

891
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 5: you gotta we gotta bail that out, Jeffery gotta you know,

892
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 5: he gotta get out the way because that's way too

893
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 5: inconvenient to the way that we live as a society.

894
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: He's gonna take the neck tie, you know. Okay, that's

895
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: I mean that does I do think that's a very

896
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: brutally accurate argument, you know, And to that point, sometimes,

897
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 4: especially here in the West, Uh, the public deifies celebrities

898
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: uh far past maybe their financial or structural theft to

899
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: a society. We we were talking about this too. This

900
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: is a slightly had conversation, but we were talking about

901
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: this when the musician real up and comer Taylor Swift

902
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: UH made a comment supporting supporting the Harris campaign. And

903
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: then it moved voting numbers like at an almost unprecedented scale.

904
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: And I was talking with Matt Knowle, and I was like,

905
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: is this all it takes? Do we need just like

906
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 4: one celebrity to say one thing.

907
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 8: It was also kind of an own goal on Trump's

908
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 8: part because if he hadn't done all that bonker stuff

909
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 8: with the AI, she might not have had to come

910
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 8: out on one side or the other at all. I

911
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 8: mean that this's, you know, outside of the scope of

912
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 8: this conversation, but I did want to just mention this

913
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 8: last thing for me on the Diddy thing. Like our coworker,

914
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 8: Charlemagne the God, he's an iHeart guy.

915
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: He had a pretty hard to take.

916
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: Technically, all of our our collective.

917
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: We get paid by the same company, the same.

918
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 5: Secret paid the same amount, no question.

919
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: Equal opportunity. But he had a I think a pretty

920
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: interesting take on it.

921
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 8: He said that anyone who is now coming out telling

922
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 8: stories about weird stuff they witnessed surrounding Diddy and his

923
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 8: inner circle are essentially accomplices because they're they're talking now

924
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 8: when it's like safe to talk because the guys obviously

925
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 8: going down. I don't know, is that oversimplifying, like how

926
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 8: are we going to see these dominoes fall? Like are

927
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 8: the people that are out there now kind of telling

928
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 8: these stories? Are they just waiting for the next shoot

929
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 8: to drop? Or like do you have any names that

930
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 8: you are seeing that might be like the next ones

931
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 8: to go?

932
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 7: You got?

933
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 5: You got that list next to you?

934
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 7: Right?

935
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: I think turned into aching conversation.

936
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 7: Died in the desert six years ago, you don't have

937
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 7: the name name them?

938
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 8: Was wondering if you think this idea of people being

939
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 8: accomplices because they stayed quiet for so long, is that

940
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 8: like too simple?

941
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: Is it like more?

942
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 7: I think it's a little I think it's a little

943
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 7: bit sick. I think there are opportunists, you know what

944
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 7: I mean. I think that there's always when you take something,

945
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 7: when somebody something of this magnitude happens, there's always going

946
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 7: to be people who could attach themselves and get money

947
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 7: and things like that off of it. Do I think

948
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 7: that all these people saying stuff were accomplishes in it

949
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 7: the way that they were like handprinting invitations to the

950
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 7: Diddy parties? And I don't think I.

951
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 5: Watched a video recently, Bory. I think I might have

952
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 5: sent it to you of a dude who claimed that

953
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 5: he was at a Diddy party and saw uh Carl

954
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 5: Winslow gift. I watched that, Yeah, said he calls them

955
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 5: Carl's Winslow's. He says, he says he from Yeah, that's right.

956
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: He said he saw Reginald. He's saw Reginald Gill Johnson

957
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 5: getting getting his back blown out by Diddy. And and

958
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 5: I don't think that that person is telling the story

959
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 5: for any other reason than just trying to take advantage

960
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 5: of a moment.

961
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to say I don't think that person

962
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 3: was telling the truth. I think it's entirely likely that

963
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: didn't take place.

964
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 5: But I think that's I think it's very likely that

965
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 5: it did not take place. Right, Carl, carls Winslow's walked.

966
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: In on you.

967
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 7: I don't appreciate you interjecting me directly into the Diddy.

968
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: Again, not you, David Borri, but but the other guy.

969
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 7: Oh no, I just I think he walked on Carl

970
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 7: Winslow giving it to Diddy.

971
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then maybe every accusation is a confession on

972
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 4: some level. Right, we see that play out, But how

973
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: much like to that point, how much of this it

974
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: seems like we're saying there's a non zero percentage of

975
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 4: this being people somewhat performatively doing the right thing as

976
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 4: a way to fast forward themselves into the headlines.

977
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 5: Is that, Yeah, I don't think there's a single hero

978
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: on the other side of this. I think the heroes

979
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 5: have had thirty five years to step up and say

980
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 5: that something psychotic was happening here in some former fashion.

981
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 5: I think, certainly, historically we've seen a lot of his artists,

982
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 5: almost all of his artists never stay with bad Boy

983
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 5: and certainly do not maintain healthy relationships with Puff. So

984
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: I think in some ways maybe that is them showing

985
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 5: us who this man has been the entire time. But

986
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 5: the reality is nobody's been nearly as explicit as they

987
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 5: probably should have been given the scale. Yeah, of the

988
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 5: crime we're talking about.

989
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 4: Nace just walked away and started preaching, you know what

990
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 4: I mean?

991
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it changed one. Now he's got a podcast, so

992
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 5: you know it's.

993
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 7: Well.

994
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 6: You know, Mace made a song called feel So Good

995
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 6: and in that music video there is a young man

996
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 6: named Chris Tucker who was in it. And in the

997
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 6: same year Chris Tucker made the film The Fifth Element,

998
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 6: and this is what I wanted to talk to you

999
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 6: guys about. You were having a discussion about the Friday movies,

1000
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 6: and you put him in whatever order you want to

1001
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 6: Friday really important, I think in a lot of our lives. Uh,

1002
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 6: that one line and you know this man, what ended

1003
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 6: up becoming just the thing that my friends and I

1004
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 6: said to each other all the time, Uh, I'm doing it,

1005
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 6: I'm doing it. I said all these lines that way

1006
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 6: Money Talks had the most lines.

1007
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: For me of his movies.

1008
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 5: That Peter Chris.

1009
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I've learned pretty hot and tempting.

1010
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was huge.

1011
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 6: But I want to talk about him specifically in context

1012
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 6: of all this stuff because he had a really interesting

1013
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 6: career and I don't know his involvement with any of

1014
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 6: that stuff, or with bad Boy or any of those things,

1015
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 6: but he was certainly in a lot of music videos.

1016
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 6: And I noticed when I was going through his IMDb

1017
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 6: because I was thinking about him after you guys were

1018
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 6: talking about Friday on a recent episode. You can see

1019
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 6: his trajectory there where his career doesn't really take off

1020
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 6: until he's in that movie Fifth Element, which is have

1021
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 6: y'all seen The Fifth Element?

1022
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 10: His greatest acting no yeah's film Greatest Hair, Greatest Wig.

1023
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 4: And.

1024
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: I think he did too right.

1025
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 6: But it goes back to something that you guys have

1026
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 6: talked about in your show before, the emasculation of a

1027
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 6: black male on screen as the way to catapult a career,

1028
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 6: which made me which yeah, I meant a lot of

1029
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 6: folks have talked about that before, but it just made

1030
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 6: me think about specifically this guy that was in one

1031
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 6: of I don't know Friday was a really important movie,

1032
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 6: but it didn't take off in the same way that

1033
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 6: I don't know his career did when Rush Hour came around,

1034
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 6: right the franchise.

1035
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1036
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 2: I just sorry. I'm just thrown out there and see

1037
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: if you guys have thoughts.

1038
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 7: I will say I think that all this speaks more

1039
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 7: of how interesting a guy Chris Tucker, because the femininization

1040
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 7: of a black man in a movie. I think we

1041
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 7: kind of came to the same point on that that

1042
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 7: It's like, that's just like it's a comedy trope. It's

1043
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 7: like if you count how many white men have done it,

1044
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 7: then you start to be like, well, I think this

1045
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 7: is just what people do, you know what I mean.

1046
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 7: But Chris Tucker in the nineties was everywhere, and I

1047
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 7: think that's what we need to talk about.

1048
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: Okay, well specific.

1049
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: Well to that, because even Matt, as you were explaining it,

1050
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 5: there's a part of me that starts going damn. Chris

1051
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 5: Tucker has been connected to a lot of sex predators historically,

1052
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 5: like he had he was very close with Michael Jackson,

1053
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 5: he was was on Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs. He is

1054
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 5: to your point, he had a relationship with Puff in

1055
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: the past. Like, there's a lot of Chris Tucker just

1056
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 5: hanging out with sex bests and somehow coming out a

1057
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 5: Christian on the other side of it feels more conspiratorial

1058
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 5: to me than the feminization side of it.

1059
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 7: That's exactly how I feel.

1060
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 4: It's it's just on the your numbers game, right, Just statistically,

1061
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 4: how often can you be in those rooms before you

1062
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 4: start to get a weird vibe?

1063
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: Like?

1064
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 4: To what threshold do you exist in these circles?

1065
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 5: Uh?

1066
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 4: Like, at what point do you have to stop saying, well,

1067
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: I didn't know, you know, I was just there for

1068
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 4: the snacks they got, Oscar Meyer.

1069
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 5: If this party is sponsored by Mike's hard lemonade, I'm

1070
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 5: drinking stupid tonight. You know what I mean, at some

1071
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 5: point you're gonna have a Mikes then you're gonna be like, well,

1072
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 5: I guess that's what we do.

1073
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't know the party was themed that way.

1074
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 7: Exactly.

1075
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 8: Williams is gonna be okay, okay. I just feel like,

1076
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 8: should he be looking out? Should he be looking over

1077
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 8: his shoulder? I mean, he's just like, all this stuff

1078
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 8: that he said has come to pass, like so much

1079
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 8: of it, And at first people were kind of writing

1080
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 8: him off as just being bitter and rambly and whatever.

1081
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 8: But like now it just seems like all the stuff

1082
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 8: that he was spilling is likely very true and it

1083
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,959
Speaker 8: involves a lot of people.

1084
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: I just wonder if he's got a target on his

1085
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: back or what.

1086
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 5: You then, I think that that that insanely talented, insanely

1087
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 5: insane person has navigated harder things then a bunch of

1088
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 5: rich people being mad at him. We watched him get

1089
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 5: beat up by a fourteen year old I knew you

1090
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 5: were going to say in a field once and he

1091
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 5: somehow managed to still be a king of comedy afterwards.

1092
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 5: That's that's an unbeatable character. I have no doubt that

1093
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 5: he will find a way to navigate all of this

1094
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 5: and the huts, you know, after that with tangling with

1095
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 5: the fourteen year old and coming back on his special,

1096
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 5: and then it's just immediately like all right, is like

1097
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 5: I don't what do you want? I don't care. I

1098
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 5: didn't have tea, guys, I moked my teeth away. I'm

1099
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 5: not gonna I'm not gonna feel bad and explain myself

1100
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: in a sad way. This is just true psychosis.

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00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: I love it.

1102
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 4: All right, Let's pause here because we're getting into some weirder,

1103
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 4: deeper water. We'll be back with Langston Kerman and David Bori,

1104
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 4: and we have returned.

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00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 7: Here we go.

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00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 6: Langston, when you came on and hung out with us

1107
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 6: last time, I tried to make a connection to your

1108
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 6: past as an English teacher and how it kind of

1109
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 6: like informs the way you teach people with your comedy

1110
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 6: and on the show. David, I don't know a ton

1111
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 6: about you when it comes to just maybe a job

1112
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 6: you've held in the past, or a position in your life,

1113
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 6: a relationship that kind of informed the way you talk

1114
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 6: to people about these complex subjects.

1115
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 7: Oh, a pretty regular guy before comedian was Yeah, or

1116
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 7: did a few gas stations scam some old people out

1117
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 7: of some money at a call center for a while

1118
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 7: and worked at a casino.

1119
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: But like service position exclusively.

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00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 7: I only ever had jobs construction for a while, not

1121
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 7: highly skilled, so that was you at the call center.

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00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 6: But for me, it's about communication, like how and the

1123
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 6: way you guys communicate to get big kind of ideas

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00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 6: across it. And also just hit that funny moment that again,

1125
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 6: like as a listener, you just somehow grab that thing

1126
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 6: that I was kind of thinking, but I didn't formulate

1127
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 6: it into the way that you guys put it. So

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00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 6: I just I'm just trying to say, appreciate y'all's communication style.

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 5: I Well, one of the things that I think David

1130
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 5: is especially great at that I am grateful that he

1131
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 5: has this skill that I struggle in sometimes is he

1132
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 5: has an ability to sort of meet people exactly where

1133
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 5: they are and I think sometimes I'm like this, I

1134
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 5: don't want to talk to them. This is frustrating, and

1135
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 5: he's very much like, nah, like I see where you're at.

1136
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 5: I'm down to clown right wherever you need to be,

1137
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 5: because that's just what this conversation sort of requires. And

1138
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 5: I think if I can broaden that a little bit.

1139
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 5: I think that's what makes for good conspiratorial discussions. It's

1140
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 5: not hearing someone's opinion and going that is stupid because

1141
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 5: of X and X belief that I already hold. It's

1142
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 5: being able to say, like, all right, this is what

1143
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 5: you think, and I may not think any of that

1144
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 5: makes sense, but I'm willing to hear you all the

1145
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 5: way to the end of this train so that we

1146
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 5: can decide together whether or not that does in fact

1147
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 5: make sense.

1148
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 6: And you can play back and forth with it a

1149
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 6: little bit to where it doesn't feel crazy or dumb.

1150
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 6: It feels like, oh, we're actually having a conversation.

1151
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't make discourse by telling people what to

1152
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 4: think or all. Yeah, so I love that point about

1153
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: you know, well, maybe I disagree with you, but tell

1154
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 4: me how you got there. Because nobody sees themselves as

1155
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 4: a crazy, irrational lunatic. You know, none of the none

1156
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 4: of the I didn't want to mention it on air,

1157
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 4: but no, none of the like quean on guys are

1158
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: saying I woke up one day and decided to be

1159
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: wha could Yeah.

1160
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Speaker 8: You know, I'm a matrix conversation dude. You were like,

1161
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 8: I hate this on a conceptual level. But I'm not

1162
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 8: saying it's dumb. I think there's a room for this.

1163
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 8: And you go all the way down that rabbit hole,

1164
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 8: like in real time on the podcast, and we see

1165
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 8: you follow it and honestly, and I mean it was

1166
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 8: you never really you know, nagged anybody.

1167
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 3: You were just kind of like there with it.

1168
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 7: I feel like the point is to hear these people out.

1169
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think the point is necessarily for

1170
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 7: me to like inject what I feel, or for me

1171
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 7: to maybe shame these people or tell them why I

1172
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 7: think they're stupid. I think the point is that they

1173
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 7: have something to say, they have an idea to get across,

1174
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 7: and it's my responsibility to assist in that however I can,

1175
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 7: and then hopefully the listeners can make draw their own

1176
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 7: kind of feelings about that.

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01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 5: And I do think then the most beautiful thing about this,

1178
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 5: this dude fan fiction we're discussing, is less about the

1179
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 5: conclusions of the fan fiction and more about the beautiful

1180
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 5: writing that sort of goes into the building of that

1181
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 5: fan fiction. And that's where I think conspiracy is most fun.

1182
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: It's not that Ronald Reagan invented aids, it's that you

1183
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 5: can get somebody to walk you through, step by step

1184
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 5: how they believe Ronald Reagan did, in fact, invent the AIDS.

1185
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 5: And that's fun because it's Ronald Reagan in a lab

1186
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 5: with monkeys and needles and shit.

1187
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 8: It also tells you about the time and what people

1188
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 8: were scared of, and like it's it's the folklore of

1189
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 8: it all kind of, I think.

1190
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 4: And it's Ronald Reagan capable of what remembering what happened

1191
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 4: twenty minutes ago for a sustained amount of time.

1192
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 3: We've seen that the Dennis Quaid Reagan film.

1193
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 7: I take it.

1194
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 4: Okay, Uh, yeah, we've been we've been. Uh, we've been

1195
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 4: doing this back while Ronald Reagan could remember who was president.

1196
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 4: There is so much we got to get to you guys,

1197
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: but we are, you know, we we want to be

1198
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 4: respectful your time. If possible, could we play a little

1199
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 4: quick fire conspiracy game. Would you guys be on board?

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1201
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt and Ole is that okay with you guys?

1202
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 7: All right?

1203
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 4: It's over all right. So here's what we like to do.

1204
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 4: We're just rapid fire from us. We'll give you an

1205
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 4: idea conspiratorial and or paranormal and just let us know

1206
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 4: true or not or why we'll We'll start now with Uh, Dylan,

1207
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 4: could we get a weird sound? Cue?

1208
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 9: Unsettling? Even there we got I'm unsettled. Show unsettling? All right,

1209
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 9: our producer hates this.

1210
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 4: Now here we go. Number one ghost real? No, why

1211
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 4: have you seen one? Thoughts?

1212
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 7: Yeah? I saw one once?

1213
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 5: If Bory has told a pretty harrowing story about seeing

1214
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 5: a ghost, Wait, no.

1215
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: Way, are you being serious?

1216
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 7: Or because I truly have no other feeling. I never

1217
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 7: had felt any way about it before after, but I

1218
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 7: did see something so that I think I have to

1219
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 7: acknowledge that. Wow, And I hate ghosts. I think it's lame.

1220
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 7: I think it's stupid for you to hang out. It's

1221
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 7: like a super senior. Don't you have other stuff to Yeah,

1222
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 7: go somewhere you're watching me? You lose it? But yeah, yeah?

1223
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 8: But like, did that change you in a way or

1224
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 8: make you think about it more often, or just like

1225
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,959
Speaker 8: reframe the way you thought about something that you felt

1226
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 8: a certain way about prior to that event?

1227
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 4: Uh?

1228
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 7: Not not too much really, because I think that at

1229
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 7: least what happened in my experience, it didn't have the

1230
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 7: ghosts of something didn't have the ability to change anything. Right,

1231
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 7: It wasn't like it didn't influence me. It didn't really.

1232
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 7: So it's like I think, if they are here much

1233
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 7: like a senior who stayed so long, they have no

1234
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 7: power anymore. They're just kind of like hanging out and watching.

1235
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 7: So I don't know, that's fine.

1236
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 6: I guess, well, if the movies tell us anything, David,

1237
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 6: they've got unfinished business.

1238
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they're not completing it, right.

1239
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 4: What's so special that we all have unfinished business?

1240
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: It's all these drawers.

1241
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 5: I wonder if if it is like a super senior

1242
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 5: of like people up in heaven or wherever ghosts go,

1243
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 5: or like these ghost who still go to Earth are

1244
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 5: like pedophiles. They're like weird like prey on human bodies

1245
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 5: in Sikka where we are.

1246
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 7: I'm up here in heaven doing whatever the hell they

1247
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 7: do up there. You're down there trying to avenge your father, Okay.

1248
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 4: Like your dad is here with us. You can't just

1249
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 4: go hang with them.

1250
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 7: If they're real, they're stunted as well, and we should

1251
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 7: feel bad for them.

1252
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 4: I feel like that's a very that's a weirdly empathetic

1253
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 4: way to look at it. Like, you know, maybe they

1254
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: need help.

1255
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 6: All right, next one then, well, I feel like that

1256
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 6: was a call out to the boys, which great job, Langston, Oh.

1257
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 4: Thank you there it is there. It is next one

1258
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: all right, only because it's one of the most enduring

1259
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 4: conspiracy theories in Western discourse. Moon landings. Do you guys

1260
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 4: believe people landed on the moon?

1261
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 6: Uh?

1262
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 5: I I believe it at some point.

1263
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 7: I think that that happened.

1264
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 5: I believe that we've landed on the Moon. I do

1265
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 5: also believe that there was a big, big money machine

1266
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 5: put behind making sure that we felt like we experienced

1267
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 5: what lands on the Moon was. And I don't know

1268
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 5: that what we saw in what actually happened completely matches

1269
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 5: up right that, Like that is not to suggest that

1270
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 5: that isn't footage, but I think that that is very

1271
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 5: controlled footage. I think that that probably was made maybe

1272
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 5: to look better or more efficient for everybody to see

1273
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,959
Speaker 5: at certain points you punched it up. I think that's

1274
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 5: more a possibility than us not going at all. Right,

1275
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 5: there's too many parties involved in that conspiracy to ensure

1276
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 5: that no one went to the moon, and we get

1277
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 5: to tell everybody people went to the moon. But is

1278
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 5: it possible that, like, somebody went to the moon and

1279
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 5: it was a great day, and then y'all had to

1280
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 5: go in the booth and make somebody jump around a

1281
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 5: little bit to make it look a little cooler than

1282
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 5: the grainy footage you tried to collect from the moon

1283
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 5: that day. I'm open to that possibility.

1284
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: That's a nuance. I like that. That's one of my

1285
01:07:58,920 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: first times hearing that.

1286
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: It's just so reasonable that it's like, I don't think,

1287
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: I like, no.

1288
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 5: I feel, I feel the rabbit hole. Yeah, no, it's

1289
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 5: it's not. And and again I don't I think that

1290
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 5: everybody that would claim that we didn't go to the

1291
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 5: moon would say that it has like this more sinister

1292
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 5: plan behind it, that they're trying to trick us into

1293
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 5: something evil because the world ain't even really round and

1294
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 5: they don't want us to know that. Blah blah blah.

1295
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 5: Like that's all silly. It's not that. It's you try

1296
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 5: to get footage. The footage look like, so you get

1297
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 5: X person to to remake said footage look a certain way,

1298
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 5: and then there are some some flaws in the shots

1299
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 5: that you took, much like a Starbucks cup in the

1300
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 5: back of a game of throne shot. There there's continuity

1301
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 5: errors that you didn't account for. Thus you allow conspiracy

1302
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:03,440
Speaker 5: theorists to feed their uh six sick families for another millennia.

1303
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 3: I like it, Matt.

1304
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 4: Do you want to do one? As we're wrapping up.

1305
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 6: Oh, this one's pretty easy because I you know, I

1306
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 6: really do feel like the government conspiracy angle is it's

1307
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 6: the most plausible stuff. I've made a show with another

1308
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 6: group of people about specifically mlk's assassination, but then we've

1309
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 6: talked recently about JFK's assassination, RFK assassination. A bunch of

1310
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 6: these folks who appeared to be bringing human beings together,

1311
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 6: at least on the surface, right, they appear to be

1312
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 6: uniting people. Do you think there's anything to overall the

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Speaker 6: government needing to keep us so divided and against each

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Speaker 6: other so that humanity never comes together to fight the

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Speaker 6: real big power structures.

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Speaker 7: Yemm Yeah, totally, Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Differently, no,

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Speaker 7: I think that's about right.

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Speaker 5: I think look at the end of the day, and

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Speaker 5: it's sort of what we talked about before. I think

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, capitalism, by by it's

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Speaker 5: it's literal definition requires somebody to be poor inside of it.

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Speaker 5: You need more people to not have money in order

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Speaker 5: for the wealth to uh stay going up for the

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Speaker 5: ones that do manage to get money, and so like,

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Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you have to that

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Speaker 5: can't just be you counting on people spending their money

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Speaker 5: poorly forever and always. You have to create systems to

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Speaker 5: make sure that they spend their money poorly or don't

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Speaker 5: have any money to spend at all. And so I think,

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Speaker 5: like you, you know, every four years you at least

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Speaker 5: make people re up on a a new opportunity to

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Speaker 5: trick them, no matter what the you know that trick

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Speaker 5: might be.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that at all, but I think you're right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: With that's how you can tell when someone's making a

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Speaker 4: really good point when you say, I, yeah, I'm uncomfortable

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Speaker 4: with that use it feels very true. And this leads

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Speaker 4: us to something that we're very excited about. We haven't

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Speaker 4: really mentioned it yet, but we have to mention it

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Speaker 4: before we close. You guys are going on tour and

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Speaker 4: Matt Nolan, I are very excited about this. Could you

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Speaker 4: tell us a little bit about Start the Steal twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, boy, I forgot what we called it, that.

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Speaker 5: This is their brain child.

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Speaker 7: Well, no, it's not my brain child. It's just a

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Speaker 7: very funny tour I thought it is. Yeah, we're going

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Speaker 7: out to fifteen cities. We're doing our live show. We

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Speaker 7: have some special guests a few cities. It's just Langston

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Speaker 7: and I and it's just like our show. It's it's

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01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 7: like hearted a lot more than it's serious. We play

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01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 7: some games, we sell some merch. We do meet and

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Speaker 7: greets where lengths and kisses everyone on the mouth.

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Speaker 5: Who and it's not up for debate. You you get

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Speaker 5: in line, you get a kiss. I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: do that weird shit where you go. I don't want

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Speaker 5: to kiss, but can I get a picture? No, everybody

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01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 5: gets a kiss. But it's on record all right now

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Speaker 5: to live up to that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know specific you guys are coming to Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: We talk a lot about you know, we live in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: You're going to be here?

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Speaker 7: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Do we have a specific date for that?

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Speaker 7: Because October thirty, first Halloween.

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Speaker 5: Halloween. Bring your children.

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Speaker 2: May No, I don't want you kiss them.

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Speaker 4: That's a lie.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, but now I regret what I said. Well,

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Speaker 5: now I put myself in a nasty and I see,

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Speaker 5: I see where the mistake was made.

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Speaker 7: That's on me.

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Speaker 5: I will be issuing a response podcast.

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Speaker 7: After this one.

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Speaker 4: Oh the whole series. Check out the episodes, but do

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Speaker 4: check out before that comes out. Do check out my

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Speaker 4: Mama told me. It's absolute banger. As you can tell,

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Speaker 4: we are fans here. Do join us. We are going

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Speaker 4: to be there October thirty first to check out the

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Speaker 4: guys live here in Atlanta a City winery. You can

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Speaker 4: also learn all of the dates for the upcoming live

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Speaker 4: show going to the instagram at my Mama told Me

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Speaker 4: pod David Linkston For anybody else where can they learn

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Speaker 4: more about your work outside of the show.

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Speaker 5: You can follow me at Langston Carrman on all social

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01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 5: media platforms. I'm the only one with this stupid name.

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Speaker 5: And oh you can watch my special it's called Bad Poetry.

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Speaker 5: It's on Netflix. And more importantly, come see us live.

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Speaker 5: We have a bunch of dates beginning in early October,

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Speaker 5: uh well mid October. That starts in d C. Then Detroit,

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01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 5: then Chicago, and then a bunch of other places, including Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: And we would love for y'all to join us.

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Speaker 2: There, aren't you on a show called English Teacher something.

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Speaker 5: That English Teacher.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: No, it's like it's it's so wholesome and like kind

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Speaker 10: I just I mean, it's you know, it's got subversive

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Speaker 10: elements to it, but it's just I find it too.

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Speaker 10: I watch it with my kid and like it's tricksy motel,

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Speaker 10: you know, like, I mean, everything about it is just

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 10: like so it's like a sitcom for our generation or

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Speaker 10: something their generation.

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Speaker 3: I think it's amazing.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. Yeah. Oh Instagram cool guy jokes City seven.

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Speaker 7: I have a special that I did. It's called Birth

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Speaker 7: of a Nation with a G. Don't type in, I

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 7: mean you can type in much longer.

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Speaker 5: And more important, more important.

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Speaker 7: More important. But yeah, you can find that on my Patreon,

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Speaker 7: Patreon dot com backslash David Borie gbo.

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Speaker 2: R I E amazing. Thank you guys, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 7: We love.

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Speaker 5: This is a pleasure for us. We love the show.

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 5: We love talking to you guys. This is great, man,

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01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 5: what a ride.

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Speaker 4: As we're as we were saying, Matt, we didn't even

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Speaker 4: get to all the other stuff that's on the way.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna have to have these guys back.

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Speaker 6: Oh for sure, I think we need to do it

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Speaker 6: at least yearly, if not twice a year, hanging out

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Speaker 6: with those guys.

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Speaker 2: They are fantastic.

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Speaker 6: Uh Hey, if you want to follow us and check

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01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 6: us out, we're all over the internet. You can find

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Speaker 6: us at Conspiracy Stuff in many places and on Instagram

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01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 6: and TikTok at Conspiracy Stuff Show.

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Speaker 2: Do not forget the YouTube page at Conspiracy Stuff. Go

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Speaker 2: hang out there for sure.

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Speaker 4: And if you would like to kiss us on the

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01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 4: telephonic mal as Lengthston would say, why do not give

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01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 4: us a phone call? We have a number. It is

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01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 4: singing along at home one eight three three stdwytk Matt.

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01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 4: What happens when someone crosses that rubicon?

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 6: Well, first they regret it, and then they are really

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01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 6: enjoying it again and then regret sinks back in.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just joking.

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01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 6: When you call in, you give yourself a cool nickname

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01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 6: and let us know if we can use your name

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 6: and message on the air. And if you got more

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01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,919
Speaker 6: to say than could fit in a three minute voicemail,

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01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 6: instead you send us an email.

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01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 7: We are the.

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 4: Entities that read every piece of correspondence we receive. We

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01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 4: welcome it gratefully. You don't have to just reply to

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 4: a thing that happened already. If you have a new

1446
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 4: rabbit hole, take us to the edge. We'll do the rest.

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01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 4: We love the links, we love the pictures, we love

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01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,879
Speaker 4: the long stories. So be well aware, yet unafraid. Sometimes

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 4: the void writes back, join us out here in the

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Speaker 4: dark conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Stuff they Don't want you to Know is a production

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