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Speaker 1: Welcome in What Drayvin the Great? Episode four forty eight.

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Speaker 1: This episode of What Drayvin the Grid is presented to

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Speaker 1: you by boost Mobile demands. Good morning, great to see you. Listen, folks.

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Speaker 1: I tried. I tried to prepare everyone a few days

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Speaker 1: ago about the gauntlet we were all entering with the

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Speaker 1: first few rounds of the NBA playoffs and just game

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Speaker 1: after game, night after night, sleep deprivation. You've got to

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Speaker 1: prepare for these types of things. Oh wow, Brady News

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Speaker 1: right to start the show. Billy Donovan out as the

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Speaker 1: Bulls head coach. That's probably more his decision than anything else.

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Speaker 1: Billy Donovan, I wonder if he'll be interested in going

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Speaker 1: back to college. I also think he probably could get

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Speaker 1: a better job than the Bulls head coaching job that

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Speaker 1: actually starts and finishes our Chicago Bulls coverage for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five six They only have been referenced when

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Speaker 1: we see guys they couldn't make work, like Ao last

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Speaker 1: night or Kobe White during the play in. When we

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Speaker 1: see those guys make contributions for other teams, but that

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Speaker 1: team is rudderless and directionless. Maybe with the new front

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Speaker 1: office they'll be better but I think Billy Donovan's good coach,

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Speaker 1: but he evidently is out. But great to see you.

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Speaker 1: NBA playoffs have delivered already. We are not starting today

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Speaker 1: with the Laker game from the week this weekend, even

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Speaker 1: though that is probably what I'm most excited to discuss.

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Speaker 1: Is they play this evening because there were two great

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Speaker 1: games last night, three games, two great games last night.

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Speaker 1: The Calves credit to them for it not being a

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Speaker 1: great game. They've looked awesome now. The Raptors don't appear

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Speaker 1: to be ready. Brandon Ingram had arguably the worst game

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Speaker 1: of his career in that spot. But the Calves are

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Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do as the favorite team

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Speaker 1: in the series. But as we're singing these other series,

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Speaker 1: the Pistons, the Nuggets, the Knicks, the Rockets, being the

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Speaker 1: favorite team does not guarantee you go up to nothing

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Speaker 1: to start the series. So we'll get into all of that.

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Speaker 1: But first straight voicemail, brought to you by our friends

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Speaker 1: quite simply just one of the greatest left tackles in

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Speaker 1: the history of the NFL, and one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm forty one year old grandfather. I can't

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Speaker 1: say bag Getter, but one of the greatest guys at

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Speaker 1: securing you know that he gets paid. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: but I feel so corny saying that at making sure

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Speaker 1: he gets paid what he deserves. Does an all time

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Speaker 1: great player got a new contract? Is he's thirty eight

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Speaker 1: years old? Now thirty seven years old, Wimby, when's the

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Speaker 1: first ever unanimous Defensive Player of the Year. Now he

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Speaker 1: deserves it. But every time we have unanimous awards and

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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year awards come out, I'm reminded

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Speaker 1: of what was stolen from Lebron James. Because Lebron James

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Speaker 1: one year got a hundred out of one hundred and

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Speaker 1: one first place MVP votes and the reason he didn't

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Speaker 1: win it unanimously was because Gary Washburn decided someone needed

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Speaker 1: to recognize Carmelo Anthony's season, even though nobody thought Carmelo

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Speaker 1: Anthony was I'll do it, and so that's why Lebron.

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Speaker 1: That's why Lebron no, not defense MVP. Did I say.

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Speaker 2: Defense because you were talking about unanimous I thought we

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Speaker 2: were talking about could have been the first ever?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Lebron would have been the first ever unanimous MVP,

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Speaker 1: but it was denied by Gary Washburn, and that that

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Speaker 1: same year Lebron should have won Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 1: Year for the only time of his career that he

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Speaker 1: would have won it, but somehow Mark Gasol won the

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen season really kind of a tough one. And

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Speaker 1: I think of it, whenever we have a Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: this happens to be both. With that said, it would

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Speaker 1: have been ridiculous for anyone to vote for anyone other

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Speaker 1: than Winby for first place. He was far and away

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Speaker 1: the most dominant defensive player in the sport this year,

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Speaker 1: and question marks about the future of Steve Kerr and

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Speaker 1: the Warriors. Go ahead and mark me down as someone

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Speaker 1: that thinks Steve Kerr will be back, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back at quite the rays we'll see. I think that

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Speaker 1: the he'll I think Kerr is gonna stick around, try

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Speaker 1: But I also think kerrz he's like, well, yes, probably

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Speaker 1: It's just my gut. I don't think Kurs walking away. Reminder,

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Speaker 1: get to the late late game last night Wolve's Nuggets.

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Speaker 2: Things are getting spicy over there in Denver and Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Denver had pretty much control throughout the game. Minnesota snatched

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Speaker 2: it away at the end there, carried by ant. The

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Speaker 2: ribery is heating up. What do you think that the

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Speaker 2: story was of Game two?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, Denver had a nineteen point lead almost instantly,

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Speaker 1: but Minnesota raced out in the second quarter, and it

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Speaker 1: took Jamal Murray heave at halftime almost the exact shot

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Speaker 1: once won a finals game. Jamal Murray hit a fifty

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Speaker 1: Minnesota ends up stealing it. So there are a bunch

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Speaker 1: of takeaways I have for this. My number one takeaway

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Speaker 1: is very simple. Rudy Gobert won his matchup with Nikali Jokic.

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Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to do. It is incredibly rarely done.

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Speaker 1: But Rudy Gobert, despite I think one of the four

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Speaker 1: How many points did he have him I two points, No,

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Speaker 1: just the one dunk late and right after Gobert dunked

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Speaker 1: Gobert gave Joker hell. And aside from a second quarter

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Speaker 1: But that's what it was. Yes, Listen, it is as

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Speaker 1: high of a compliment as you can pay a guy.

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Speaker 1: He is held almost to a lebron Ish standard, where

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Speaker 1: the first two games of this series he has had

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Speaker 1: and if you're Minnesota, you feel like we're doing great.

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Speaker 1: We're holding him to right a under fifty percent shooting.

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Speaker 1: and go listen. Very late in the game, down down two,

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Speaker 1: he decided to try to pass to Christian Brown, ant

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Speaker 1: Like that was not a great Joker game. You add

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Speaker 1: I should say, pardon me that that's the story of

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Speaker 1: that fourth quarter, Joker going one of seven and Jamal

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Speaker 1: You're gonna lose. Now. They still had opportunities to win,

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Speaker 1: and they could have stolen it back. But the Nuggets

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Speaker 1: And you give Jade McDaniels and that entire crew credit

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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert credit for what he did in that fourth

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Speaker 1: But the story of that game was Rudy Gobert, the

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Speaker 1: The entirety of that commentary after Game one was, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, the Pistons might be in real, real trouble.

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Speaker 1: Here's why the magic. And if the Pistons win tonight,

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Speaker 1: Well, they spread it out. It's gonna be the no

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Speaker 1: that the that the they play tomorrow. Yeah, because they're

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Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some bigger gaps. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the Pistons have taken control all the way back. Like so,

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Speaker 1: I I always try to caution myself against that. I

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Speaker 1: I would still be very surprised if Denver lost. And

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Speaker 1: I know San Antonio, with no disrespect to the Timberwolves,

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Speaker 1: is rooting for Minnesota. But yeah, Joker's gotta get going

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Speaker 1: in a way that befits best player in the world,

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Speaker 1: which is what most of us have been calling him

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Speaker 2: Well, Yoki Jama, all the bad defenders, Tim Hardaway, Cam Guyson,

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Speaker 1: And the Timberwolves clearly think they're as good as the Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: All right, demn say, let's talk Hawks Knicks.

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Speaker 2: The Knicks blew a late lead, a late lead in

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Speaker 1: I'd be listen. I picked Hawks in seven, so I

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Speaker 1: and then CJ misses the free throws and they just

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Speaker 1: go run. As it turns out, they knew they had

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Speaker 1: no timeouts and that's what they had to do in

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Speaker 1: that spot. It's just again, I think they've done a

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00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: good job. I think Noah Eagle doesnt really nice job.

431
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: This is not taking a shot. This is just acknowledging.

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00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: It was confusing for the audiences to really, you have

433
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Speaker 1: a timeout and you're gonna end up getting a transition

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Speaker 1: turnaround Michale Bridges jump shot. That's not great, right, But

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Speaker 1: that's thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was every one's.

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00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: Initial thoughts, like and so, but that's not what happened.

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00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: They had no choice. So that's the that's the first

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00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: kind of piece of it. Now. I said that this

440
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: was about as bad of a Round one loss as

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see. Uh, and you know, our producers want

442
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Speaker 1: to know why. I think that was worse than the

443
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: Nuggets loss. The Nuggets. That game was tied it. The

444
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Nuggets had a huge lead early, but those of it

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00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: they won. The Nuggets won the first quarter thirty nine

446
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: to twenty five, and lost the second quarter thirty nine

447
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: to twenty five. You don't have control of an NBA

448
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: playoff game in the first half unless you're up twenty

449
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: five points. Like at twenty five points you if you

450
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: lose that game, it's a catastrophe. Almost any other first

451
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: half lead can be lost, as evidenced by the fact

452
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Speaker 1: that the Nuggets had an eighteen point first half lead

453
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Speaker 1: and needed a fifty footer at the buzzer of the

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00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: first half not to trail by three going into halftime

455
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: Like and then that game, the entire second half was

456
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: nip and tuck. The Knicks, on the other hand, this

457
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: is the first time the Knicks have blown a double

458
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Speaker 1: digit lead going into the fourth quarter of a playoff

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Speaker 1: game since the Reggie Miller choke sign game. It's been

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Speaker 1: thirty it's been more than thirty years. They were up

461
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: a dozen going into the fourth and we're in total

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Speaker 1: control of the series.

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Speaker 2: And like Atlanta's best player, I mean, we could say

464
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: a CJ. McCollum, but Jalen Johnson up to that point

465
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: had really done nothing. And like that, right, just CJ.

466
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: McCollum and like no, Jalen Johnson company, you's got no

467
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: business with that roster. For the Knicks losing that game.

468
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: And Nikill Alexander Walker, their third best player, was not good.

469
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: He was three of twelve for nine points. Like they now.

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00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: The Hawks have some excellent defenders, but you let Jonathan

471
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: Kaminga and CJ. McCollum combine for fifty on your head

472
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Speaker 1: in your building to blow a double digit fourth quarter lead,

473
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: that's just brutal. It doesn't it really doesn't get much

474
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: worse than that. And Jalen going ten of twenty six,

475
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: it's too many shots. When Towns goes eight for twelve.

476
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: Jamiels can't guard.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he, I mean he's there, he is

478
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: their point guard, and that's fine, but he can't. He

479
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: can't go ten of twenty six. And now listen, he

480
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: hit it three late to tie it, and just real quick,

481
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: he had a huge three late to tie it, and

482
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: then he hit the another huge three to cut it

483
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: to one with seven seconds left. The guys clutch. There's

484
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: no doubting that. But he was looking for his shot

485
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: a little too often. In the second half de Monse,

486
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: he took thirteen shots plus six free throws and had

487
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: one assist that Jose Alvarado in his seven minutes in

488
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: the second half had three assists. Like, you just can't

489
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: have that. What was your question?

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00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, I'm just saying, like, get your teammates

491
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: more involved, Like maybe mckil bridges hits that shot if

492
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: he had like a couple more shot attempts, be four.

493
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Speaker 2: But yeah, just look for your guys. You're a point guard.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, ten of twenty six is not okay at home

495
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: in a spot where you guys are the better team

496
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: and you had control and here And this is one

497
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: of the things I love, just love so much about

498
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs is everything matters. It's a two month

499
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: war and every little battle matters. And this is now.

500
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: Even if the Knicks went now the Knicks, maybe they

501
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: won't win the series. I still think they will. Maybe

502
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: they won't, but even if they win this series, there

503
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: is attax on that fourth quarter. They're a little more

504
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: banged up or a little more exhausted when they get

505
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: to Boston. I in Beed's not coming back. Boston's about

506
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: to be chilling, you know, and I would be stunned,

507
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: it absolutely gobsmacked if the Celtic Sixers series goes more

508
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: than five. I think at this point probably it goes forward. Sure,

509
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: but give I mean, Phil, There's there's a long, long

510
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: history in the NBA of a team winning the first

511
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: two at home handily, relaxing a bit, the other team

512
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: at home keeps its season alive with a Game three victory,

513
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: and then the better team lays the SmackDown in Game

514
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: four to go up three to one and put this

515
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: essentially put the series away. So it's really hard to

516
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: predict a sweep unless you think one team is just

517
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: so wildly overmatched, Like I'm not even picking a sweep

518
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: right now in Oka, ce Phoenix. Yeah yeah, And so

519
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: the sweeps are just hard to come by. Uh they could.

520
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: But my point is Boston is gonna be done after

521
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: five games, yea maximum that the Knicks had no business

522
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: losing that game, And I don't want to focus too

523
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: much on the losers rather than the winner. CJ. McCollum

524
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: has had an awesome career, an awesome career, and he

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00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: deserves credit for it, because I mean he's first of all,

526
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Speaker 1: he's been in the league thirteen years at his size

527
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: out of Lehigh. It's just it is Lehigh, right in

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00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: fact check me on that, guys. I'm pretty sure he

529
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: went to Lee High. A guy who was in the

530
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: playoffs every year of the first you know, his whole

531
00:38:54,280 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: career in Portland and was an awesome playoff performer, like

532
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: you take out his rookie year, okay, and CJ in

533
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: his playoff career in Portland, fifty one games, twenty two

534
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: a game on you know, pretty efficient, shooting almost forty

535
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: from three in the one playoff series he played in

536
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: New Orleans or the his first play I'm looking at

537
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: it right now, his first playoff series in New Orleans,

538
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: I should say he was twenty two a game. So,

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00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's been in he's been in the league

540
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: thirteen years. He's been in the playoffs eleven of those years,

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Speaker 1: despite spending one of the years in Washington where you

542
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: just have no shot, and a few of the years

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00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: in New Orleans where he got to the playoffs twice. There,

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00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: Like it's for his career, demanse, He's twenty a game

545
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: in the playoffs over seventy playoff games. So I mean,

546
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: that's that's not nothing. And for him at his age,

547
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: at thirty thirty four years old, to still to put

548
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: up a thirty two point playoff game is really impressive.

549
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they've shown f UCJ. That's so cool for him,

550
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: And I think this is his I am gonna check,

551
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: but I'm not checking yet. Memory tells me he had

552
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Speaker 1: like a forty point playoff game in Portland. But aside

553
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: from that good one, Yeah, aside from that, I feel

554
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: like this is his second highest scoring Now I'm checking,

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00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: I had it. I can now check. Oh, he has

556
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: two forty one point playoff games in Portland one okay,

557
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: one a loss to the war to the Steph KD

558
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: Juggernaut Warriors, poor guy. The and then won a quadruple

559
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: overtime forty one point game in a win over Denver.

560
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean, I guess he has now

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00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: eleven career thirty point playoff games. Like shout out to CJ.

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00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: It seems like a good dude, solid teammate too, all

563
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Great.

565
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: Let hear anything bad about great dude.

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Speaker 1: So back when the back when he when first things

567
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: first was in the morning. So twenty eighteen, maybe he was, Okay,

568
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that he was still married.

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00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: Can you guys check that for me? The all right,

570
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: it looks it looks like he is back when First

571
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: Things First was on in the morning. CJ was engaged

572
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: to a young lady who is going to dental school

573
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Speaker 1: in New York City, and he would come in studio

574
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Speaker 1: and beat like during some of the playoffs when he

575
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: was in New York staying with his fiance and be

576
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Speaker 1: like our basketball analyst. And then he has he had

577
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Speaker 1: like a small vineyard. I think because I just remember

578
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: he sent us wine. I remember it because one year

579
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Speaker 1: I forgot to participate in First Thing's First Secret Santa,

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00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: and when it was my turn to give a gift. No,

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Speaker 1: I just get he had sent us wine. I got

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Speaker 1: the wine from my office that he had given me,

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Speaker 1: and I gave it as my Secret Santa present because

584
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: I had forgotten to buy a present. But the yeah, no,

585
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean the the young lady, her ig bio is

586
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: or one of the captions on one of her pictures,

587
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: I should say, is five years married, thirteen years together,

588
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: so and they got pictures of their kids. So I mean, no,

589
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: he's a really good guy and I'm happy for him.

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00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: He's kind of always lived in these trade rumors. He's

591
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: had this tradeable contract like he and Simmons joked about

592
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: that that he always but he ended up being the

593
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: big prize in the tray Young trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was the big.

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Speaker 1: He was the big return. And listen, the Knicks are

596
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: in an in for a dogfight. As I happen to believe,

597
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: whoever wins this series is gonna get beat up by Boston.

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00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: So you know, the Hawks I don't think can provide

599
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: much resistance. And I know the Knicks beat the Celtics

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00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: last year. I don't see that happening again. But those

601
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: of us that thought this was gonna be a seven

602
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:23,759
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Speaker 1: folks like Demons Danny as well, who were bold enough

604
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: to say Hawks can win it, that fourth quarter last

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00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,960
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643
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Speaker 1: let's talk a little Lakers here.

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00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: So Katie missed the Game one against the Lakers. Lakers

645
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: are now up one zero. They have dropped from at

646
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: minus eight hundred to minus two thirty to win the series.

647
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: Uh so Houston was without Katie and then Luca is

648
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: also back at practice since yesterday. Have you seen enough

649
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: to switch your pick from Houston to the Lakers.

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00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go.

651
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: We go with the Lakers. There we go.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James is quite simply the most remarkable athlete of

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00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: any of our lifetimes. And I don't know what much

654
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: more can be said that hasn't been said. It Someone

655
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: sent me the day of Game one. Nine years prior

656
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: to the day, I was a guest on Colin Cowhard's

657
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: show talking about the longevity of Lebron James. Nine years

658
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: ago this week, it was twenty seventeen. He was in

659
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: year fourteen, and he had he was had gone to

660
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: six straight finals, and the Warriors, you know, were in

661
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: the midst of their first playoff run with Durant, and

662
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: people were trying to convince themselves that Kawhi Leonard had

663
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: overtaken Lebron as the best two way player in the

664
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: sport when Lebron was the defending champ, and I talked

665
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: about the remarkable nature of the fact that Lebron at

666
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: that point had been to the playoffs twelve years in

667
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: a row and never once missed a playoff game. Well,

668
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: now it's at damn near three hundred career playoff games.

669
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: And while and it's bad luck and I love KD

670
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: KD got banged up in practice and can't go and

671
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: Steph for the fourth time since Katie left the Warriors

672
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: doesn't make the playoffs at all, and Kawhi has the

673
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: best year of his career arguably, and his team can't

674
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: get out of the plant. And Lebron, without the team's

675
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: two leading scorers, takes on a Houston team that I

676
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: understand they didn't have Durant, But what did everyone tell

677
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: me going into the series? Everybody, well, no matter how

678
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: good Lebron is, the six best guys in the series,

679
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: it's Lebron and five Rockets. Okay, so Durant's out. Now,

680
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: the five best guys in the series is Lebron and

681
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: four rockets. That's what everybody said, And maybe they're right.

682
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: How much did that matter? Because while folks were busy

683
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: wondering during the regular season, are the Lakers better without

684
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: Lebron James? That was a real conversation that was had

685
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: on every platform imaginable. The reality is every basketball team

686
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: in league history would be better with any version of

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00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: Lebron James. Right now, we have the least athletic, worst

688
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: version of Lebron that certainly existed since he was older

689
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: than eighteen years old, and all he does is drop

690
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: in his first playoff game and be prime Chris Paul,

691
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: except bigger and stronger. What will old Lebron James look like?

692
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: We'll foot for an night. What does year twenty three,

693
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: age forty one Lebron look like? Prime Magic Johnson? What

694
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: would forty five year old Lebron look like if you

695
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: needed him to be? Peak point God Chris Paul, that's

696
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: the answer, and the way he set up every single

697
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: one of his teammates and the Rockets in theory better

698
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: equipped than any team other than Oklahoma City to throw

699
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: waves at defenders on Lebron. Now, why e May didn't

700
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: have Iman Thompson just take him on to start the game.

701
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure said they start Josha Koge and Josha

702
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: Kogy's not gonna bother Lebron James. It is Josha Kogy.

703
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be rude, but this is this

704
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: reminds me of Damn near a decade ago when the

705
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: Raptors drafted ogn Nanobi, who's turned into an excellent player.

706
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: But I remember rookie og Anobi in a playoff series,

707
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: the announcer saying, talk to the Raptors front office, and

708
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: they said they drafted him with this series in mind. Finally,

709
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: they'll have someone who can slow down Lebron. I was like,

710
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, rookie Og Nanobi against Apex Lebron James,

711
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: I think you're drawing pretty slim and.

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00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: Hey, that is fair though OG. These days, I'm not

713
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: saying no verse forty one year old Lebron. I think

714
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 2: if OG had entered the league a little bit earlier

715
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: and was like his third or fourth year, suit yeah,

716
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: because OG is to go to archetype no.

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00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Apex Lebron rookie OG. I mean, I don't

718
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: know about that. But the thing is this, he'll When

719
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: I say he'll never be bad, I want to be clear.

720
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: I know he won't play forever, but I do mean

721
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: if he wanted to play five more years, seven more years,

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00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: he'll never be bad. And the reason for that is

723
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: he will always be the smartest player in the league

724
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: and only get smarter he will. He's not gonna shrink.

725
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: He's always going to be physically imposing, one of I

726
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: don't know, call it the five or six strongest guys

727
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: in the league. And he's always going to be one

728
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: of the very best passers the league has ever seen.

729
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: So even as the athleticism declines, and it has twenty

730
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 1: three years in declined enough to where in the second

731
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: half of a playoff game, the single best athlete in

732
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: the league, I'm in Thompson, can beat him off the

733
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: dribble to go for a driving layup, and Lebron at

734
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: this point can only barely smack it off the backboard

735
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: to deny it. It's you're going to be live with

736
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: this guy, and if you are playing a team as

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00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: inherently flawed as Houston, You're gonna be more than live.

738
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: And so listen. Am I guaranteeing they win the series?

739
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: Of course not. But here's what I do know, demanse.

740
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: Thirty one times Lebron has won game one in a series.

741
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: His teams are twenty nine and two with twenty consecutive

742
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: series wins. Thirty two times Lebron teams have gone up

743
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: either two to zero or three to one in a series,

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00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: which with a win tonight they obviously would. They are

745
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: thirty two to zero. He's never blown a multi game

746
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: series lead. So is tonight I must win for Houston? Yeah?

747
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: Of course? Is am I certain Kevin Durant's playing?

748
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: I am not, And is tonight that almost like Luca

749
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: is definitely coming back by the end of this series.

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00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: Would it not be.

751
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: Well unless they're extended or it doesn't get extended. But yeah,

752
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you feel like you win tonight, you obviously

753
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: guarantee yourself a minimum of six games, you know, in

754
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: the on the negative side, and I we'll talk about

755
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: the Houston side of things in a minute. I know

756
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: there's another question you wanted to ask me about something

757
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: I said about Lebron, but I just there is we

758
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: do get numb to eighteen hundred, nineteen hundred games, seventy

759
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: three thousand minutes, and the guy's just still there. Whatever

760
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: his team needs on any given night is what he

761
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: is at least going to attempt to provide. And in

762
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: Game one, he controlled every single aspect of that game,

763
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: Every single aspect Lebron controlled. And that was one of

764
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: you know how I said earlier, demands an eighteen point

765
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: lead early in a playoff game, doesn't you know mean much.

766
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: This was the opposite of that, where a seven point

767
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: Laker lead felt like they had a total vice scrip

768
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: on the game. They were never blowing out Houston and

769
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: it seemed like they were in total control the entire way,

770
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: all right.

771
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Uh, you said Lebron is still a top

772
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: ten guy you'd want in the playoffs. Who are the

773
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: guys that you would take over him?

774
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: Though? The complete list of guys that I would right

775
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: now in twenty twenty six take over Lebron in the playoffs.

776
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: I know everybody's got Steph on their top ten lists

777
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: and not Lebron. I no disrect to Steph. I'm taking

778
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: Lebron in the playoff environment over Steph right now, this moment,

779
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm taking Lebron over Kawhi in a playoff. I just

780
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: saw Kawhi and once again in a play in Get

781
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: Get Locked, and once again his team's out of there.

782
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: I think Devin Booker is an excellent player. I'm taking

783
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: Bron over Booker right now. If he's healthy. I will

784
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. I will take over Bron just peak at

785
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: his athletic performance. I'll take Anthony Edwards. I will take

786
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: Luca over Bron. Very different stylistically, but Bron can't average

787
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: forty for a series the way Luca can. I obviously

788
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: would take Joker over Bron for a playoff series. It's

789
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: only been one game, but I'm gonna give the young

790
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: man credit. I will take Wimby over Bron for a

791
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: playoff series. I don't have to love it. I will

792
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: take Shay over Bron for a playoff series. And so

793
00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: that's the West. It's five guys in the East. I'll

794
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: take Bron over Paolo. I will take Bron over Tyrese

795
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: Maxi for a playoff series. I will take Bron over

796
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell for a playoff series. Donovan's been great. I'd

797
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: take Bron's ability to control every aspect of the game.

798
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: I'll take Bron over Jalen Bronson for the Knicks. Would

799
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: have loved to have Lebron last night, would have loft it.

800
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: Cade was excellent in Game one, but I haven't seen

801
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: it the You know what, I'll give deference to Kaid

802
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: his first team all NBA's peak of his powers, Cade

803
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: and win healthy Tatum. Yeah that's seven guys, go ahead.

804
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: I guess is hurt right now, but he's not hurt.

805
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: The team just doesn't wanted to play.

806
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yes, Johannes your healthy. Honest. So there's eight.

807
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: I slide Lebron and nine step in at ten. Guy's

808
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: forty one years old. Yeah, it's really unbelievable. I mean,

809
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: he's out there, he's he's the best player on the

810
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: court in a playoff game that his son is playing.

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Speaker 2: I was just about to say, I know it's a

812
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: touchy subject with his kid, but like his kid is

813
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: literally on the floor.

814
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: His kids on the court in real playoff minutes, and

815
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: he's still the best guy. He's doing lefty hooks over

816
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: Jabbari Smith Junior when he literally dunked on Jabari Smith Senior.

817
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: Like there he is demon say he's in the league

818
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: with Cooper Flag, Lebron is. There is a bigger gap

819
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: in age between Cooper Flag and Lebron than there is

820
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: between Lebron and Achema LaJuan. There there's like Lebron is

821
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: closer in age. I read this today and then I

822
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: checked it. Lebron is closer in age to Barkley Jordan

823
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: and a LaJuan than he is to Cooper Flag. Cooper

824
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: Flagg's win Rookie of the Year, Lebron's winning playoff games.

825
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: It's just we're just never We're never gonna see anything

826
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: like this again, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. All right,

827
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Speaker 1: let's talk a little KD here.

828
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Speaker 2: So he was top three in total minutes and minutes

829
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: per game this year. Do you think that it was

830
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: a fluke injury or maybe with his usage this year

831
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: might have contributed to that a little bit.

832
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: Listen, I no, I think it's a fluke injury. I

833
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: also they said he injured it diving for a loose

834
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: ball in practice. That seems weird and almost a little

835
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: hard to bel like. I don't. I could totally see

836
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: him banging knees. But why is thirty seven year old

837
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: KD diving for a loose ball practice? That's just weird.

838
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: What I will say is this, Uh, I think maybe

839
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: as I'm giving Lebron all his flowers, maybe I underrated

840
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: how good KD was this year because that team without

841
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: him offensively is just horrible. I mean, just hard to watch, bad.

842
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: And listen, he shouldn't have talked that trash on his

843
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: teammates in any form in which it could have been

844
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: found out. But you know he said about Shingoon, your

845
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: franchise player can't shoot or defend checks out. He said

846
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: about Javari, I can't trust Jabari to make a shot

847
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: or get a stop checks out. Like, again, he shouldn't

848
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: have it, but his analysis appears to have been spot on,

849
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: and no one should be more like Shingoon. This is

850
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 1: supposed to be his moment. And if you're a Rockets fan,

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Speaker 1: here's the other piece of this that if you're a

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Speaker 1: Van Vliet tore up his knee, Steven Adams got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Those three guys where the veteran addition is supposed to

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Speaker 1: put you over the top. Right, your whole young core

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Speaker 1: team without Luca and Ar and look totally in out

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Speaker 1: of its depth, Like I'm in. Thompson is going is

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Speaker 1: already a really good player. He can be a perennial

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Speaker 1: All NBA.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was. I was texting with I'll just say someone.

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Speaker 1: It's way more fun. It's literally your job, and it's

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Speaker 1: fifty x the return. If I'm in, Thompson just becomes

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Speaker 1: a mediocre jump shoot. He's just gonna get multiple super

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Speaker 1: Max contracts and it is uh yeah. The producers say

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Speaker 1: he should call up Aaron Gordon and ask him how

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Speaker 1: he did it. Agreed, Like, but that Shongoon. Shongoon's also

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Speaker 1: got to ask himself. Am I gonna end up being

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Speaker 1: player on an excellent team. And he's gotta be better,

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Speaker 1: all right. I do want to get to these other series,

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Speaker 1: and I want to talk a little bit about this

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Speaker 1: Bengals trade. But two things First, One is I was

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you guys at the top the show, and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals here.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Cincinnati made a little bit of a spot splash

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. They traded the tenth pick for Dexter Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence is coming off a down year in terms

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Speaker 2: of sacks and pressures. It'll also be the first time

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Speaker 2: since the eighties that the Bengals have not had a

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Speaker 2: first round pickt Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, Dexter Lawrence two years ago, before he heard his elbow,

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Speaker 1: was a legitimate top flight defensive player of the Year candidate.

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Speaker 1: Last year he had half a sack. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: the elbow is bothering him. He also seemed to be

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Speaker 1: over the Giants. I'm not gonna hold that too much

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Speaker 1: against him, Okay, I still think he's an excellent player,

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals, obviously for the twenty twenty sixth season,

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Speaker 1: got better. He's gonna be better. He's gonna give them

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Speaker 1: more value and he's not on a crazy contract than

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Speaker 1: you would typically get than they would get with the

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Speaker 1: tenth overall pick this year. And I again, I think

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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence is an excellent player and a nose tackle.

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Speaker 1: Their value is not really just shown up in sacks,

928
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Speaker 1: So what he does against the run it's the blockers

929
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Speaker 1: he occupies, it's the pressure he creates, all of it.

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Speaker 1: With that said, this is how bad franchises stay bad franchises.

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Speaker 1: And this is just such a reckless, rash, inexplicable move. I,

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Speaker 1: like the rest of the football world, when we heard

933
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Speaker 1: the Bengals had traded the tenth pick of the draft

934
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Speaker 1: for Dexter Lawrence, all of us thought. What actually happened

935
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Speaker 1: was the Bengals had traded the tenth pick of the

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Speaker 1: draft for Dexter Lawrence and pick thirty seven, the giant

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Speaker 1: second round pick. That's what everybody thought this was going

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Speaker 1: to be. Once you heard tenth pick of the draft

939
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Speaker 1: was going back to New York, what you thought was okay,

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01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: so they're getting Dexter Lawrence and a premium pick in return.

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Speaker 1: The fact that it was the tenth pick of the

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Speaker 1: draft straight up for Dexter Lawrence makes this one of

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Speaker 1: the most unprecedented trades in modern NFL history. That is

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Speaker 1: not an exaggeration this century, demanse. Here is the complete

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Speaker 1: list of non quarterbacks to be traded for a top

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Speaker 1: ten pick, A pick that was confirmed to be in

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Speaker 1: the top ten, not a future first that turned into

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Speaker 1: something the top ten pick, but we know where we're picking.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna trade this top ten pick for a non

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Speaker 1: quarterback complete list this century Randy Moss to the Raiders

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Speaker 1: for the seventh pick of the draft. That's the complete list.

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Speaker 1: That's it. And Bengals fans saying, Nick, you're hating on us.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you a couple of things. One is,

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Speaker 1: as a Chief fan, I've got way bigger concerns than

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Speaker 1: a team that hasn't made the playoffs in three years. Second,

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Speaker 1: of all, the Bengals have the tenth pick, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: have the ninth pick. I understand they play different positions,

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01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 1: but I would say as far as value, what their

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Speaker 1: contract says, their value is where their hierarchy in the

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Speaker 1: league age. I think AJ Brown and Dexter Lawrence are about,

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Speaker 1: you know, similar hierarchy, and the Chiefs have a huge

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Speaker 1: need in theory at wide receiver. I'm here to tell

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Speaker 1: you if the news came out that the Chiefs had

964
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Speaker 1: traded the ninth overall pick of the draft for AJ Brown,

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Speaker 1: I'd consider resigning. I wouldn't be able to deal with it.

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Speaker 1: It's just such an objectively, it's just the only way

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Speaker 1: the only way this trade ends up being a good

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Speaker 1: value for Cincinnati is either you win the Super Bowl

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01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: in the next three years I'm sure they hope to,

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Speaker 1: or Dexter Lawrence is defensive Player of the Year, or

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Speaker 1: yeah and again he plays Deton knows tacle. He's not

972
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Speaker 1: gonna get fifteen sacks. But it it is. It's I

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01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: can't believe they did this, and folks that thought and

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Speaker 1: I know the response is, well, you gotta keep Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow happy. Man. Joe Burrow's not an idiot, and Joe

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01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: Burrow's going to know whether or not this team has

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Speaker 1: enough quality young players to sustain what's left of his prime.

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Speaker 1: And I this is one of the most shout out

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Speaker 1: to the Giants. It's great business for the Giants. I

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01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: think that, like what pick would I have given up

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Speaker 1: for Dexter Lawrence. I think that starting with Chicago at

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Speaker 1: twenty five, it starts to be fair value. But again,

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Speaker 1: do you know what you have to include with the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth pick to get the tenth pick? You have

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Speaker 1: to include another first rounder and maybe something else. I

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01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: just I it is they gave up so much more

987
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: for Dexter Lawrence than what the Rams gave up for

988
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, who is younger and well not cheaper now

989
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: because they gave him the new deal unless of an

990
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: injury risk. I just I'm and not coming off a

991
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: down year. I'm I'm just so stunned by it. All, right, demanse,

992
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: Let's quickly get to these other series as quick as

993
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: we can.

994
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 2: Thunder Suns Celtic's Spurs star It's not suns all took

995
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: care of businesses expected in game one? Which one of

996
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: these title contenders would you say you were the most

997
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: impressed by.

998
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I give it to all of them quickly.

999
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: The Thunder just exerted their will on Phoenix. Phoenix wasn't

1000
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: ready for it. We'll see if Phoenix can punch back

1001
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: at any point. The Jason Tatum looks unbelievable, and he

1002
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: really looks like he's all the way back. I can't

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: believe it. And I didn't think the Spurs played that great,

1004
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: but Wmby dropped thirty five. You know me, I'm a Neanderthal.

1005
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of thirty point games. I know

1006
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: Wimby a month ago was trying to explain how they're

1007
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: not that impressive, and then all of a sudden, he's like, yeah,

1008
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: maybe I should do it more often. And listen, when

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Speaker 1: Wimby is hitting threes, he's unguardable. Now is he gonna

1010
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 1: go five of six from three all that often? Probably not,

1011
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: but he can and that was a hell of a

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01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: playoff debut for him. So all three of those teams are,

1013
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: pardon me, are biting time until round two. They just are.

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: And I tell you this much right now. The Celtics,

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01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't think the Celtics would prefer to play Atlanta,

1016
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: but they're even though they lost to the Knicks, they're

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01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: confident against them. The Spurs would greatly prefer to play

1018
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: Minute Soda against Denver. It'll be a war. The Thunder

1019
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: are confident against anybody, but would like to see the

1020
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: Rockets win this series because if the Lakers get through it,

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: Luca and Ar will I believe, will be back for

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01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: that series. Now. The Thunder annihilated the Lakers when they

1023
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: played them this year. Throughout the year different circumstances, including

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01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: the game, Luke and Ar got hurt, so maybe they're

1025
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: not worried about anybody. But that also would be a

1026
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: very unique paradigm where I do feel like the casual fan,

1027
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: for maybe the first time for a lot of people's

1028
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: basketball lives, would find themselves rooting for Lebron James and

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01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers just because the thunder are not

1030
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: the most likable group of all players. Like they're likable guys,

1031
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: but the style of which with which they play, I

1032
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: don't think is all that appealing to the casual fan.

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01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not gonna panic about the Pistons, by

1034
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: the way, just very quickly said awful loss, and I

1035
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: do think the Pistons are a flawed team. However, flawed

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: team for a one seed. I saw Orlando too often

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01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 1: this year go through stretches of time where they just

1038
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there, and you'd be like, they

1039
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: turned a corner man. Orlando in Game eighty two lost

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Speaker 1: to the Celtics backups, and in the first play in

1041
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:40,520
Speaker 1: game lost to Philly. Then they annihilated that always professional

1042
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Speaker 1: outfit in Charlotte. Keep just keep heading down those tracks, guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure year seven is when it'll all

1044
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: click in. It's like, wait, defense, not calling out the coach,

1045
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: good shots, not getting beat by thirty every year we're

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01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: in the plan that'll change and then they it's great

1047
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 1: in game one. But you seem like you're worried about Detroit.

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01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm not yet worried about paniking about it. But yeah,

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 2: I think Orlando maybe has figured a little something out.

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01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,440
Speaker 2: I mean, at least, I just don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Orlando can play as well as it's

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Speaker 1: played the last two games or four. Yeah, I just don't.

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01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: I just think that that's not who they've been all year.

1054
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Speaker 1: All right, reminder, please send in mailbag questions uh for

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Speaker 1: Friday show and you know, get get your little midday nap.

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Speaker 1: A lot of basketball ahead of us the next couple

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Speaker 1: of days. Be back here on Thursday. I'm on with Colin.

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Speaker 1: In a little more than an hour, I am back

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. See you guys on Thursday.