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Speaker 1: Welcome back in for the Friday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us all over the country.

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Speaker 2: I am sun tanned, chastened.

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Speaker 1: I had a debacle of a day on the golf course,

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Speaker 1: as is often the case, but thanks to Pa, to

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Speaker 1: the guys who played with me, who were fabulous across

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Speaker 1: the board, and we had a what I would say

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Speaker 1: it was a pretty good time across the board. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into that a little bit as we moved throughout

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Speaker 1: the program, but live going on at Durrow. I played

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Speaker 1: yesterday Buck with Paul Casey and at the turn Charles

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Speaker 1: Howell the third, so I got nine holes with each guys.

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Speaker 1: Turns out they're both pretty good at golf. Case you wondered.

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Speaker 1: President Trump flew in at the near the end of

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Speaker 1: our round, and I don't know if he's staying in

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Speaker 1: Durrow the Miami area to watch the tournament. I heard

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Speaker 1: he was going to be there a decent amount on

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Speaker 1: his golf course, but I saw him walking in yesterday

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Speaker 1: and the drama of the day though, and I thought

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Speaker 1: about this because I looked down at my phone a

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Speaker 1: little bit as we were as we were traveling, and

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Speaker 1: then also as I was on the golf course, I

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Speaker 1: tried to have to check my phone that much, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh Man, stock Market. Bucks just dodging bullets,

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Speaker 1: solo in the show, talking tariffs, taking calls, emails. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: looking at their four oh one ks, and so I

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Speaker 1: figured we probably should start off talking about this. Also,

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Speaker 1: we'll take some of your calls. We've got a loaded show.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Senator Tommy Tuberville going to be with us,

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Speaker 1: Dave Rutherford, who was a part of the Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck podcast network, Dave McCormick and his wife Dina Powell.

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Speaker 1: They have a great new book out, and Auburn men's

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Speaker 1: basketball coach Bruce Pearl scheduled to call in. He's a

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Speaker 1: fan of the program and he has got the Auburn

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Speaker 1: Tigers playing in the NCAA tournament, which I also heard

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Speaker 1: there was some controversy surrounding bucks pronunciation of tournament yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Auburn playing against Florida on one side, Houston against Duke

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Speaker 1: on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I just need to clarify something, Clay, because after some

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Speaker 3: of your video from the golf course made its way online,

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Speaker 3: there's talk that you can hit three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: yards from the blues and that now people are calling

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Speaker 3: you Shooter mctravis.

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Speaker 1: That would be a great I'd be a great fantasy

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Speaker 1: football team name Shooter mctravis. I don't know that anyone

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Speaker 1: has ever put four worst shots together to begin around

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Speaker 1: pro historically Paul Casey, super successful guy. It's bad to

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Speaker 1: hit a bad golf shot when you're playing with your buddies.

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Speaker 1: It's really bad to hit a bad golf shot when

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Speaker 1: you're playing with pros. So anyway, four worst shots that

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Speaker 1: some of you out there listening are raising your hands,

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Speaker 1: say Clay, you should have seen me.

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling you these.

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Speaker 1: Were the four worst shots that have ever been strung

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Speaker 1: together in the history of golf. Okay, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Stock market? I know I tell you not to look,

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Speaker 1: Stock market RTE down right now, not going well. The

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Speaker 1: general rule before before we begin, I practice this to

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Speaker 1: My emotion gets the better of me. And people, overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: when they try to time the market sell at the

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Speaker 1: time when stocks are near their lowest prices, because you're

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Speaker 1: This is the way people think, and so you sell

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Speaker 1: Better do it now because they're going to keep going up.

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Speaker 1: reading this morning breaking this down, Trump is for better

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Speaker 1: whether it's with immigration, border policy, whether it's with waste

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Speaker 1: which have been fundamentally unbalanced against the United States for

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Speaker 1: a long time. He knows he doesn't have very much

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Speaker 1: time because he's only got I know, there's been a

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Speaker 1: in order to fix things, you have to disrupt, you

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Speaker 1: have to destroy, you have to tear down the existing systems.

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Speaker 1: And we have gotten so used. This is the truth.

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Speaker 1: Every politician tells you they're going to fix things, and

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Speaker 1: then they get to Washington, they recognize how much of

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Speaker 1: a swamp it is, how much of a mess it is,

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Speaker 1: that when the penalty is there to be paid, their

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Speaker 1: going to have to deal with the mess that they created.

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Speaker 1: Trump is unique in that he sees these messes and

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Speaker 1: he is trying to fix them.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, I wasn't able to listen, so

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you kind of dove into it.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: My biggest sop top line, we should have fairer trade

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Speaker 1: agree with that. The challenge right now is Trump is

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Speaker 1: taking such drastic, radical action that many companies out there

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Speaker 1: For instance, Nike decides, hey, we're going to make all

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Speaker 2: That's kind of my biggest takeaway.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're also seeing is a week seam, if you will,

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Speaker 3: in our system, in that when you try to fix

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Speaker 3: even if it's short term pain, there's no benefit politically

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Speaker 3: the people their medicine first before things get better. And

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Speaker 3: I've brought this up before, but there was in order

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Speaker 3: Reagan's policies led into a recession that lasted a couple

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Speaker 3: But then you had an absolute boom in America afterwards,

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Speaker 3: who's particularly unhappy now, Clay, I don't sense that you

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Speaker 3: an equal and opposite reaction. And I think Trump deserves

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Speaker 3: But also I think he's earned the right to take

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Speaker 1: So again, I think you look at the border. It's solved,

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Speaker 3: Legal immigration isn't solved, but border security is where we

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Speaker 1: We told that, we were told that was impossible fix

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Speaker 1: that our southern border have ended. We got Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: a lot of what he's finding, I think is blowing

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Speaker 1: his mind in many other people's minds, and this is

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, buck. This is not something that

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Speaker 1: Trump actually benefits from. This is why it's so rare.

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Speaker 1: Almost every politician doesn't take on big challenges when the

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Speaker 1: payoff occurs long after they are gone. The onshoring of

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Speaker 1: of investment. It's something this is what we talked about,

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody who's Democrat insane on these

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Speaker 1: to create pain. Now, if tariffs are so incredibly awful,

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Speaker 1: as every left wing economist economist wants to argue, now,

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Speaker 1: why do they exist? This is a really difficult question

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Speaker 1: I think for them to answer.

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Speaker 3: Well, people should also remember before the before the constitutional

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Speaker 3: amendment that made it possible for the income tax. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's not a constitutional amendment. I'm trying to remember this

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Speaker 3: I can say with confidence the country was funded with tariffs.

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Speaker 3: So it's interesting, and I know that we're a lot

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 5: What they have said is that we need to not

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Speaker 2: We don't need tariffs.

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Speaker 6: What we need is to allow corporate America the freedom,

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Speaker 2: It is kind of interesting here, Buck.

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Speaker 3: But when it comes time for a choice. I don't

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Speaker 3: That's one part of it, right. Another part of it

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Speaker 3: Trump came in and he said he was going to

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Speaker 3: I think that'll be a considerable success. This is a

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Speaker 3: know what, Clay, if he's wrong, Okay, then we'll double back.

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Speaker 3: We'll bring these things down. It's not We're not nuking

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Speaker 1: And then I want to play Barack Obama talking about

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Speaker 1: in five years. Basically, second part of this, these tariffs

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Speaker 7: When it comes to the international system of commerce and trade.

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Speaker 7: It's legitimate for poorer countries to continue to seek access

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Speaker 7: not the big problem that you're having. A small African

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Speaker 8: It's also proper for advanced.

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Speaker 9: Economies like the United States to insist on reciprocity from

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Speaker 9: nations like China that are no longer solely poor countries

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Speaker 1: So again, China has eaten our lunch phrase that Trump

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Speaker 1: has used quite a lot. China is saying they're going

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Speaker 1: to reciprocate with tariff increases on United States goods. But

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Speaker 1: I think the economic can the United States has much

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Speaker 1: and I would suspect this is a prediction. I would

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Speaker 3: Some already have some. Israel, for example, which is not

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Speaker 3: a huge trading partner, but it's an important ally and

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Speaker 3: a trading partner. They've come out and said Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: nat Yao said, look, we're just I like where Trump's

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Speaker 3: head is out on this. Let's get rid of it,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to deepen our relationship even more with

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Speaker 3: America on trade. So there's also been a willingness, I think,

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Speaker 3: to renegotiate some of the Canadian tariffs already. This is

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Speaker 3: already happening. And the other part of this is it's

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Speaker 3: a dynamic. This is what I meant play by. This

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Speaker 3: can be fixed right. This is not a you know,

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Speaker 3: this is not like the bombing of Pearl Harbor, where

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Speaker 3: once you start it you know it's going right. There's

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Speaker 3: the day to day of how is this looking in

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Speaker 3: And Here's the thing. Whenever they are upset about this,

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Speaker 3: on what grounds can they be upset about the United

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Speaker 3: States putting a tariff on their items? That's the entire

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Speaker 3: crux of this, right, I mean, these really were in

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Speaker 3: the right. I mean Trump, I think, in general, would

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Speaker 3: prefer just an even playing field for American goods compared

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Speaker 3: of other countries, including China, to your point, I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: look at the average income in China since nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 3: The most of that money, to a large extent, that

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Speaker 3: money is coming off of Chinese goods being able to

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Speaker 3: has created. And then there's we didn't even get into

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Speaker 3: this yet. We talked to I talked about a bit yesterday, Clay,

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Speaker 3: when you were making Happy Gilmore like a guy who

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Speaker 3: Steven Miller and how I played some of his explanations

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Speaker 3: How can anyone tell me it's not just that we

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Speaker 3: get a lot of our I mean when I say

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Speaker 3: a lot, I think it's like eighty or ninety percent

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Speaker 3: of different kinds of antibiotics and other whether it's precursors

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Speaker 3: I can't even begin to run off the list of

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Speaker 3: to rely on the Soviets for you know, simple manufactured

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Speaker 3: a long conflict. People haven't paid enough attention to this

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Speaker 3: in my mind, Clay, there have been concerns from the

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I understand it's far away, but the point is we

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Speaker 3: domestic industry is more than just whether you can buy

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Speaker 3: cheap flat screen TVs is the point, and I think

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Speaker 3: Steven Miller's been hitting that point hard.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, I mean I've raised the question, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really tough one that nobody has

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Speaker 1: an answer for. What happens if China actually invades Taiwan,

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Speaker 1: if we had a war start. Our reliance on China

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Speaker 1: somebody could get a nuclear weapon and set it off

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Speaker 1: somewhere around the world, right, I'm talking about in a

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Speaker 1: decided to engage in some nefarious action, we just have

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Speaker 1: to wear it. I think because we don't have the

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Speaker 3: No, I think we rely a lot on the Taiwanese

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Speaker 3: being able to extract such a high price from a

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Speaker 3: of different theories on this. There's a lot of war

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Speaker 3: my view, is they would try to just launch missile

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Speaker 3: Taiwan is not big compared to China, but it's obviously

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Speaker 3: The back eastern half of it. There's a lot, it's

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Speaker 3: we would just be able to ride in like the

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Speaker 3: And that's putting it mildly.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in everybody. We have Senator Tubberville with us now. Senator,

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Speaker 3: appreciate you being here. Much to discuss with you today.

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Speaker 8: Thank you very much for having me on. Yep, there's

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk first. We got some some very

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Speaker 3: But I do have to ask you because there's a

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Speaker 3: with the economy with your fellow senators. Are you worried?

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Speaker 3: Is this all part of the plan? What do you

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Speaker 11: Right now, Well, everybody's a little concerned. Let me tell

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Speaker 11: you this. It's called a great reset. I've been here

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Speaker 11: four years and I've never seen the destruction of a

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Speaker 11: last four years and then the eight years before President

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Speaker 11: Trump went in for four years. He got it back

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Speaker 11: on track to some point. But we're in trouble. This

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Speaker 11: the football up the middle like we've been doing it.

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Speaker 11: We got to start throwing the ball a little bit.

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Speaker 11: That's analogy I've been putting on it. The game plan

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Speaker 11: has changed. We're going to win this game, and we're

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Speaker 11: going to do things different. Because we stay the course

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Speaker 11: debt will be just a small part of what we'll

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Speaker 11: be in and then we'll end up being a socialist

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Speaker 11: country with third world mentality of crime and all the

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Speaker 11: things that are going on. We have got to do

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Speaker 11: something different and it will work because President Trump understands it.

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Speaker 8: So do Scott Bessett, the Secretary.

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Speaker 11: And Treasurer Treasurer Howard Ludni Commerce Secretary think had a

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Speaker 11: great plan.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to it. Working.

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Speaker 1: Senator Tupperville with us right now from Alabama. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: and I'll ask you about him in a sec. I

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Speaker 1: think he's the AP coach of the Year. Not a

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Speaker 1: bad guy, not a bad result there. But you have

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Speaker 1: been sharing this story and our audience has responded to

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Speaker 1: in a big way. A young woman was in a

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Speaker 1: these matches. You coached football, You've got a background in

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Speaker 1: women's sports and the other one is just saying, hey,

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Speaker 11: It's unbelievable and it's just a continuing motion of what

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Speaker 11: the Democrats in this city of Washington, d C. Has

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Speaker 11: done to the American dreamy. They're trying to destroy it.

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Speaker 11: We're not going to allow that to happen. This young

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Speaker 11: USA fencing team, you know, refuse to compete against the man.

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Speaker 11: And she is exactly right. I mean, there's no there's

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Speaker 11: no business whatsoever for young boys or men to participate

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Speaker 11: against girls or women. And you got to think about this.

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Speaker 11: And President Trump's even said this. In a couple of years,

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Speaker 11: we're getting ready to have the Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 11: We'll be the laughing stock of the world if we

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Speaker 11: can't get this back going the way it should be.

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Speaker 11: I can remember watching the last Olympics and that boy

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Speaker 11: was a mismatch. So we got to get it done.

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Speaker 11: I've been I've had three bills on the floor. All

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Speaker 11: three of them have not passed. Now one Democrat ever

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Speaker 11: votes to keep men out of women's sports.

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Speaker 8: It is a disaster.

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Speaker 11: Now I've got no men in Olympic sports, and we'll

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Speaker 11: put that on the floor. But they're gonna fight against it.

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Speaker 11: I don't understand. I asked them, you know, what do

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Speaker 11: you believe in and what we believe in the rights

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Speaker 11: of everybody, How about the rights for young girls and women?

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Speaker 11: Because we're gonna lose women's sports if we don't watch it.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you a little bit more detail. For

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Speaker 1: those of you out there who may not know young

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Speaker 1: woman's name, Stephanie Turner. She said Fox News this morning.

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Speaker 1: I told them I was refusing to fence because this

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Speaker 1: person is a man, and I'm a woman, and this

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Speaker 1: is a women's tournament. The USA Fencing Organization then kicked

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Speaker 1: her out of the tournament and has expelled her from.

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Speaker 2: Being able to compete. But this is a very powerful moment.

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Speaker 1: It's on video her saying quite simply, I'm a woman

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Speaker 1: and it's a women's tournament, and I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: compete against a man. And the fact that this is

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Speaker 1: a political issue in any way is crazy. I coach

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Speaker 1: a little league baseball. Let me tell you, if somebody

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Speaker 1: had shown up with a sixteen year old and tried

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Speaker 1: to play in twelve you, every parent in America would

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Speaker 1: have said no. That's why we have agent limits. This

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Speaker 1: is also why we have men and women's sports.

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Speaker 8: Buck Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And you'd had absolutely parents all over you too.

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Speaker 11: You'd have had parents.

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Speaker 2: All over yes, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: What know, Senator, Senator Zupperville, You know President Trump has

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Speaker 3: taken a very strong posture on this, and specifically in

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Speaker 3: the case of Maine. We recall the governor of Maine

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Speaker 3: got into a little back and forth with him, and

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Speaker 3: she said, you know, I'll see you in court, which

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Speaker 3: is generally not something you want to say to Trump

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Speaker 3: because this guy, this guy lives for the conflict. He

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Speaker 3: loves to throw down when he thinks he needs to

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Speaker 3: and when he thinks he's in the right now. It

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Speaker 3: turns out that it looks like Maine's trying to back

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Speaker 3: off a little bit, but the federal funding is going

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Speaker 3: to get cut to Maine if they continue down this pathway.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you support taking those kinds of actions

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Speaker 3: to protect women in sports? What would you like to

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Speaker 3: see done?

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Speaker 11: Everything that we possibly can do, we have to do it.

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Speaker 11: It has started not at the just the high school

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Speaker 11: or college level. It's got to start at in elementary school.

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Speaker 11: It's got to start at in the in the levels

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Speaker 11: that we need young girls to be involved and enjoy

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Speaker 11: participating in sports. To get them involved in it. It's

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Speaker 11: made great leadership out of a lot of women over

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Speaker 11: the years. When I first got into coaching, Title nine

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Speaker 11: just started and it opened up the avenues for many,

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Speaker 11: many different sports that girls didn't have. Softball, volleyball, track,

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Speaker 11: got them involved. It's built leadership around this country, and

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Speaker 11: I'm telling you what's gonna happen, This transgender nonsense, and

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Speaker 11: the NIL at the same time is going to put

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Speaker 11: title nine in women's sports under because NIL is taking

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Speaker 11: money away. You can't survive without money in athletics. And

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Speaker 11: now you've got transgender boys that want to participate.

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Speaker 8: So it's a double whammy on women.

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Speaker 11: And girls' sports, and you know it's it's absolutely shamed.

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Speaker 8: We're having to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We're talking with center Tommy Tuberville. I just mentioned Bruce

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Speaker 1: Pearley scheduled to join us in a bit. You're an

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Speaker 1: Auburn guy or eagle for all of our Alabama and

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Speaker 1: Auburn fans out there. You coached Auburn football, which has

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Speaker 1: been a long time big winner. You had a lot

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Speaker 1: of success there. Auburn basketball has not. Bruce pearl has

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Speaker 1: them two wins away from the national championship. He was

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Speaker 1: just named AP Coach of the Year. How big of

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Speaker 1: a deal is that and how hard are you rooting

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Speaker 1: for Auburn this weekend?

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Speaker 11: Very well deserved. I live in Auburn. I play golf

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Speaker 11: with Bruce all the time. I was at a function

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Speaker 11: with him. A couple of weeks ago. He has done

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Speaker 11: an amazing job of that program. I remember I got

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Speaker 11: there ninety nine were decent in basketball. Couldn't hardly sell

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Speaker 11: any season tickets. Now you can't get a ticket. I've

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Speaker 11: got I live in that town and I begged to

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Speaker 11: get a ticket to get into a game. He has

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Speaker 11: done one of the best jobs probably ever done in

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Speaker 11: college athletics to get something turned around.

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Speaker 8: But you got to give kudos to.

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Speaker 11: To the entire sec of the athletes now that they

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Speaker 11: have in basketball, all across other than Kentucky. Used to

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Speaker 11: be just Kentucky. Now they all can play basketball. And

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Speaker 11: Alabama almost made the Final four, and.

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Speaker 8: It was close.

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Speaker 11: I thought they had one of the top four teams,

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Speaker 11: but they didn't make it. But Auburn's in it. I'll

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Speaker 11: be voting here tomorrow. Unfortunately I won't get to go.

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Speaker 8: To the game.

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Speaker 11: But I'm looking forward to the game and tell Bruce

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Speaker 11: good luck for me. I talked to him yesterday, but

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Speaker 8: And but that's Bruce Pearl. I mean he takes it

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Speaker 8: very very seriously.

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Speaker 3: Senator Trupperville, you know Clay twice this week had to

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Speaker 3: go play golf. You know, I had to be here

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Speaker 3: trying to say the Republic and hold together America to

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Speaker 3: the best of my ability, while my esteemed co host

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Speaker 3: was out there on the links as one does. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you saw any video of him, but

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Speaker 3: you have any. You know you are a phenomenal coach.

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Speaker 3: That is beyond question. Can you give him any coaching

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Speaker 3: on his swing? Because some people are saying some things

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Speaker 3: about my friend Clay about his golf swing, and I

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Speaker 3: feel the need to defend him. What do we have here?

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Speaker 11: Well, most things start out with talent, and you got

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Speaker 11: talent and athletic ability. You know, it's good that you

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Speaker 11: can just play any sport and whether you're good at

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Speaker 11: it or not, it takes a lot out of pressure off.

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Speaker 11: It's you know, it's good for exercise and all that,

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Speaker 11: but it all starts for that athletic ability. I think

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Speaker 11: he's got some, but he needs to work on it.

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Speaker 11: And again, not elite.

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Speaker 1: That's right, coach, you can only it's it ain't the

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's and the Axes and those all the time. It's

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's and the Joe's and I don't have it. I

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of athletic ability here when it

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Speaker 1: comes to to golf.

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Speaker 2: My swing does not look good. I deserve all the criticism.

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Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, well it's uh, you win a lot of

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Speaker 11: games unless you have players.

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Speaker 3: That was not That was not the inspiring locker room

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Speaker 3: speech from Coach Tubberville. I was expecting he's basically telling

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Speaker 3: Clay that got to leave it to the pros. Well

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Speaker 3: raise some great money for charity earlier this week for

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Speaker 3: till the Towers and Senator Tubberville. Really appreciate you being

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Speaker 3: with us as always. Thanks for making the time.

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Look, I mean, you know we're talking about Clay's swing,

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Speaker 3: but I got swung out yesterday. The pronunciation police, no,

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Speaker 3: I need to hear them me big time, bigly, bigly

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Speaker 3: pronunciation police lighting me up over how I pronounce the

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Speaker 3: word that I'm now I guess supposed to say tournament.

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Speaker 3: They say it's tournament. I say tournament. Darn it like

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Speaker 3: TORNI grip, although maybe it's turna grip actually, now that

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Speaker 3: I think about it, which is what I use on

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Speaker 3: word that begins with the T there big weekend in

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Speaker 3: sports with the final four in the NCAA Men's basketball tournament.

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Speaker 3: Whether you're watching or listening to the games this Saturday

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Speaker 2: For the Elite eight?

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Speaker 1: I have not given out final four picks yet, so

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Speaker 1: we may try to do that in the third hour

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Speaker 3: Okay, And I will tell you it is very sad.

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Speaker 3: Some people are saying very sad that Clay is ahead

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Speaker 3: of me right now in the March Madness bracket. So

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in our number three, fourteen hours Up, fifteenth

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that podcast network, we have got a great

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Speaker 3: Well, we wanted somebody who is a true patriot who

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Speaker 3: former Navy seal. Our friend David Rutherford joins us. Now

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Speaker 8: You, man.

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Speaker 3: When is the first episode dropping?

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Speaker 2: Get him up.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this Buck breaking news that has

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Speaker 1: what our next. You're about to win. This is a

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Speaker 8: By the way.

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Speaker 3: First of all, we had our good Rancher's Feast earlier

871
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: in this week and it was absolutely fantastic, fantastic. We

872
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: just those steaks and Carrie made homemade ice cream. She

873
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: thinks I'm getting too skinny. I think she's feeding me

874
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: good rancher steaks and homemade ice cream.

875
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: I have to say that ice cream that she made.

876
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: The homemade ice cream was maybe the best ice cream

877
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: I've ever had.

878
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I agree, it was incredible.

879
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: Okay, well, now some of you are like, boock, why'd

880
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: you get in all this weight after you get married.

881
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 3: My wife is an amazing cook and specifically can make

882
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: the best homemade from scratch ice cream you've ever tasted

883
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 3: in your life. But we had great steaks everything else.

884
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: You know, my dad, we're gonna bring this into the

885
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: betting conversation here a second. My dad Clay, when we

886
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: were down there, I was like, oh, you know, do

887
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: you want to go to a steakhouse? And he just

888
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: sort of threw this in there. He's like, He's like, yeah, buco,

889
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: we could go to a steakhouse. What about that one

890
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: where you took Clay where they had all the sparklers

891
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: and the dead That's great. I was like, buddy, that

892
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: was great, but that was the most expensive steak in history.

893
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: I love you, Dad, but I don't you know that's

894
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: a that's a bet losing steak steakhouse kind of thing.

895
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: But anyway, he was really funny about that. He's like

896
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: that looked like fun. I'm like, yeah, it is fun,

897
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 3: but you know I'm gonna go I'm gonna go bankrupt

898
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: taking you guys to steak dinners. So instead of I'm unfortunately,

899
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: I think about to lose, although I haven't given up hope,

900
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: haven't given up hope. Gonna lose our March Madness bracket contest,

901
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: which I thought I would, but I like to just

902
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: you know, like to talk a big game before I

903
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: get wiped out. Our next bet, Clay, we can do

904
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: on a political issue. It was either you or I

905
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 3: have to post a trendy TikTok dance on TikTok that's

906
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: actual and this is an elite bet and share the

907
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: video from our x account as well. That's gonna be

908
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: the next one. All right, no more stake bets. We're

909
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 3: gonna gates. These are high soas you better be ready

910
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: for this one, buddy. If it's like a midterm call

911
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: or if it's something big in politics, you're gonna want

912
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: to feel solid on this one because Clay doing a

913
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: shuffle dance gonna blow, gonna blow the flute AI stuff

914
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 3: out of the water and me doing a shuffle dance.

915
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 3: I do not have the rhythm necessary for it. So

916
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: there we go. Did we manage to get Dave on? Yeah,

917
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: we've got him. He's ready to roll. Dave Rutherford joins us, Now,

918
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: what's up, man? Tell us about tell us about the

919
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: new podcast. What you got in store for us?

920
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 12: Well, I don't want to jump into that yet. I

921
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 12: want to talk about how I get into this whole

922
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 12: thing with my TikTok dance. Man, I know I can.

923
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 12: I can bring it to you guys pretty good.

924
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: I think I will tell you this. Rutherford for a

925
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: man who has learned substantial skills of firearms. I've been

926
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: the range with day countless times. He's a great instructor

927
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: for myself, my brothers. We've been out many, many times

928
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: a day. He knows explosives, he knows hand to hand.

929
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: He's handy with a tennis racket too. So he's a

930
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: man of many skills and talent. So if we also

931
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: call him Rut for everybody, because his last name is Rutherfurds.

932
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 3: If you hear me call him Rutt, that's his nickname.

933
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: But Dave, Yeah, we can get you in on all

934
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 3: these bets, man, because you're in the family. Now you're

935
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. I think

936
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 3: you're launching Monday, but tell everybody a little bit about yourself,

937
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: because we only bring studs and winners into the podcast network,

938
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: as evidenced by how the ratings grow month to month.

939
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, it's such an incredible honor to be

940
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 12: with you guys. I mean, you guys have been the

941
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 12: people that I've been paying attention for as long as

942
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 12: I can remember. The way you guys deliver your information

943
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 12: is just such a privilege and honor, you know, as

944
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 12: a former Navy seal and CII contractor, you know, I

945
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 12: was like, man, I'm pretty fired up, but this is

946
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 12: definitely a little a little little intense getting on with

947
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 12: you guys and represent you guys. But I think you know,

948
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 12: with my background and also you know my background as

949
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 12: a motivational performance coach. You know, I did win a

950
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 12: world series with the Boston Red Sox back in twenty eighteen.

951
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 12: What I'm stoked to be able to do is to

952
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 12: bring all of that experience to your audience and hopefully

953
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 12: develop my own following, but really to dig into all

954
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 12: the different ideas. I mean not just motivation and performance

955
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 12: and tactical or security analysis, but more so just opinion

956
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 12: on the cultural wars that are taking place, the craziness

957
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 12: we're seeing in schools, you know, and then you know

958
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 12: what's going on around the world. Man, I mean, this tariff,

959
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 12: this tariff war has got me kind of fired up

960
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 12: right now. But we're gonna hit everything on the David

961
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 12: Rutherford Show, that's for sure.

962
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: What do you think when you look around now, there

963
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: are positives starting to kind of show up everywhere. In particular,

964
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of younger guys and gals

965
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: are willing to serve the country, the Marines, the military.

966
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: They're hitting their recruitment goals, which they hadn't been doing

967
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: for a long time. What do you attribute that to?

968
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: Do you think there's this wellspring of patriotism that hasn't

969
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: been tended to that long, but that younger guys and

970
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: gals are starting to respond to.

971
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 12: Clay, that's one hundred percent what it is. I mean,

972
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 12: what numbers you know, prior to Trump getting in office,

973
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 12: We're the lowest numbers we've seen since late nineties and

974
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 12: that's when I first joined. I mean, it was pathetic

975
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 12: back in those days. I mean, we didn't even have

976
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 12: enough money at Seal Team wanted to do full training profiles.

977
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 12: And then obviously the g WoT exploded and everybody wanted

978
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 12: to serve. Patriotism was everything. Flags were everywhere for the

979
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 12: first part of that war, and then as people grew

980
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 12: tired of it, and then what really I think was

981
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 12: the most detrimental thing out of all was just how

982
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 12: Iraq wound down. How you know, obviously the Afghanistan pull

983
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 12: out was an atrocious abomination in every way shape for

984
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 12: in my opinion, it was worse than Saigon. But you know,

985
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 12: I think it's more than that. It was the Dei stuff.

986
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 12: It was, you know, a lack of meritocracy in there.

987
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 12: But now Man Pete's back in office, You've got Bongino

988
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 12: as deputy director of the FBI, You've got a resurgence

989
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 12: in American patriots is an American pride, and I think

990
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 12: young men out there are ready to put their courage

991
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 12: on the line for what American really stands for. And

992
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 12: so I think that's a direct correlation for sure.

993
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 3: Talking to our friend David Rutherford, David Rutherford Show launches

994
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 3: in the Clay and Buck podcast network coming up on

995
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: this Monday, so make sure you go to the iHeart

996
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: app where we get your podcasts and subscribe. You know, Dave,

997
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: I think also one thing that you bring to the

998
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: table that is going to be really interesting as perspective,

999
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: and I know, going to be covering big news of

1000
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: the day of course, and getting into as you said,

1001
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: culture war stuff and where things stand based on the

1002
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: news cycle. But you're both a seasoned, a grizzled warrior

1003
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: and a girl dad and an era of questions about

1004
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: what American masculinity means. I mean, I think to be

1005
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: a sealed, to have been to combat, and now to

1006
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: be raising four girls, And you know, these are voices

1007
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: that we just need to have more out there, because

1008
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: there are some folks who are running into this space

1009
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: and building substantial followings who maybe diagnose the problems of

1010
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: masculinity the right way sometimes, but definitely don't have the solutions.

1011
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: I think you can bring the solutions, or you can

1012
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: bring the advice that young men and guys your own

1013
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 3: age need to hear.

1014
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 8: Well.

1015
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 12: I appreciate you saying that, Buck, I mean, the most

1016
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 12: thing that I care most about in this light, in

1017
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 12: this world are my four daughters and my wife, right,

1018
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 12: And that's my faith and wants me to believe that.

1019
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 12: But what I also do, and I have been doing

1020
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 12: for the past, you know, twenty plus years, is I've

1021
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 12: been mentoring young men. I've got one young man I've

1022
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 12: been meant to touring since he was twelve years old.

1023
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 12: He's thirty three. He's currently at Seal Team six.

1024
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 10: Right.

1025
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 12: I've got another young man I started mentoring when he

1026
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 12: was sixteen. He went on to the Virginia Military Institute

1027
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 12: and then just left being a Green Beret after eight years.

1028
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 12: And so I do have a track record of not

1029
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 12: only you know, mentoring athletes, but also young men in

1030
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 12: terms of pursuing their height and ambition. You know, the

1031
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 12: biggest things that I want my daughters to be aware

1032
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 12: of is strong, confident, courageous, and noble young men. And

1033
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 12: so how do you teach that? How do you teach courageousness?

1034
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 12: How do you teach nobility? And I think where it

1035
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 12: really is is going back to those those core stories

1036
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 12: of great men that built this country. And so what

1037
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 12: I'm really going to focus on doing is bringing those

1038
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 12: stories back, bringing that culture back to the forefront. Of

1039
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 12: the consciousness of young men in this in this country,

1040
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 12: and hopefully, you know, if they're out searching for for

1041
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 12: the right role models or mentors. I'm sure I'm telling

1042
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 12: you what I'm I'm I'm really hoping that I can

1043
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 12: provide that that voice and that conduit so that they

1044
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 12: have something that they can model themselves.

1045
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: After no doubt, I cannot wait for this podcast to

1046
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: get underway.

1047
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: We're excited about it. I just one thing I want

1048
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: to throw in Clay. First of all, everyone, Dave Brutherford Show,

1049
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 3: first episode Monday, go check it out. It drops. It's

1050
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: gonna be a fantastic show. Dave is a dear friend.

1051
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: He's a great patriot. He's the kind of guy you

1052
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: want to hang out with. He's the kind of guy

1053
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: you want to go shooting with. I've gone many times

1054
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: with Dave Clay to that end. We're gonna now for

1055
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: sure get you out range day. We're gonna get Clay.

1056
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Clay's gonna be out there shirtless with the sixty.

1057
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what.

1058
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 12: We're gonna make this happen well, claim Clay's natural athlete.

1059
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: Man.

1060
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 12: I watched the video of him playing golf with the

1061
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 12: president last week man, and I was like, Okay, that dude.

1062
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 12: We can get him on the on the range. We

1063
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 12: can get him doing some my ads. You know, certainly,

1064
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 12: I hope he doesn't show up wearing shorts like you do, Buck,

1065
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 12: but I know he'll be squared away.

1066
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 8: Yeah. You know.

1067
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: It's funny real quick. For those of you who know

1068
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: Tonto from Thirteen Hours, I show up at shorts one

1069
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: day to range day, Clay and I go and Rut's like,

1070
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 3: you're wearing shorts. I'm like, Tonto wear shorts and Ruts like, yeah,

1071
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: but he's Chris Paranto.

1072
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. Fair, that's awesome. I can't wait to

1073
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: check out the podcast. We appreciate you coming on and

1074
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: being a part of the network and look forward to

1075
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: getting out and you trying to make me look like

1076
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: I can actually hit something.

1077
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 2: You got it.

1078
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 12: Thank you Jamen so much. Is such an honor to

1079
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 12: be a part of the Claim Buck podcast Networks. Thank

1080
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 12: you for the opportunity. I promise I won't let you

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