1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Rachel del Tondo absolutely stunning. 2 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: The mystery regarding her murder may have culminated in the 3 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: announcement of a prime suspect. I'm Nancy Grace. This is 4 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at 5 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: series XEM one eleven. At this hour, we learned that 6 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: the so called lover, younger lover, and former student has 7 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: been named as prime suspect in the young teacher's murder. 8 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: He recalled Rachel Deltondo, shot multiple times in her mother's 9 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: driveway in Pennsylvania on Mother's Day. Now, after five years 10 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: following the brutal murderer, the district attorney has announced the 11 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: prime suspect and a so called crime of passion. He's 12 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: also saying that as of right now, he doesn't have 13 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: enough evidence to prosecute. Seriously, we are learning that we 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: are learning the name of the alleged prime suspect, Sheldon Jeter. 15 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: The District Attorney Beaver County DA David Leiser is actually 16 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: asking for help from the public and says he's opening 17 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: new avenues such as a reward for new information. Jeter 18 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: was Rachel Deltando's much younger lover and former student. According 19 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: to sources, just before her death, she had been suspended 20 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: from her job at Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School on a 21 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: claim she had been involved with the male student at 22 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: her school. Now this is after cops says they saw 23 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: her with a teen boy in a parked car to 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: a m She was never criminally charged. What really happened? 25 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: What do we know about the murder of this beautiful 26 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: young woman? Take a listen to our friends at CBS Pittsburgh. 27 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: It was Mother's Day night, just before eleven o'clock when 28 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Aliquippa police got a nine to one one call about 29 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: shots fired on Buchanan Street near Broadhead Road. They found 30 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: thirty three year old Rachel del Tondo outside her home 31 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: in the driveway. She had been shot several times. Neighbors 32 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: say they heard as many as ten to twelve shots. 33 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: Family members say del Tondo was returning home from getting 34 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: ice cream with a friend when she was shocked. 35 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: You know that sheds a whole new light on it, 36 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: another wrinkle to be discovered and figured out. Multiple shots, 37 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: It's not like an accident drive by. This girl was 38 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: targeted with me an all star panel. Ashu Willcott Judge 39 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: and trial lawyer, court TV anchor. You can find her 40 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: at Ashuewillcott dot com. Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining us 41 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: out of Beverly Hills. You can find her on Instagram 42 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: at doctor Bethany Marshall. James schal Nutt Atlanta Metro major 43 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: Case Swatt Now lawyer, Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville 44 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: State University and author of Blood Beneath My Feet and 45 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Special Guests joining us. John Paul, journalist, founder of Beaver 46 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: County in dot com. But first to Joseph Scott Morgan, 47 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: Professor forensics. There's a big difference, and I may have 48 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: to go to our shrink. Doctor Bethany Marshall on this. 49 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: When somebody is shot once, like in a bar fight, 50 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: I just always use that example. And somebody that's shot 51 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: multiple times, seemingly it's not necessarily a drive by, Joe Scott, 52 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: because with a drive by, you don't think of the 53 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: person as stopping and shooting. A drive by is more 54 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: like a high and bite you're dead, But multiple shots 55 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: is an entirely different scenario. Joseph Scott Morgan. 56 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that can go to kind of two states of mind, Nancy. 57 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: You can have an individual that's unfamiliar with weapons that 58 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: will just fire in a rapid succession, particularly with a 59 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: semi automatic handgun, where it's ejecting the shells immediately. Or 60 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: you can have an event where an individual much like 61 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 3: an overkill with a stabbing or a beating, where they 62 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: just keep firing and firing and firing and firing, and 63 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: one of the singular motivations is that they're very angry 64 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: at that point in time. So you've got those two 65 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: things to kind of choose from. 66 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: Also, when you think of a drive by, you think 67 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: of somebody just willing nearly bam bam, bam, bam bam. 68 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: If you hit your target multiple times and I mean 69 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: even more than once, that means you have stopped. You 70 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: have aimed kind of sniper ish at this particular person. 71 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: That is a much more complex crime. Rachel Deltondo having 72 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: ordered a wedding dress, I want to go to a 73 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: discussion of that because, as it turned out, that became 74 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: a centerpiece of the investigation, the ordering of the wedding dress. 75 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: But who is her fiance? Take a listen to our 76 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: friends at CBS forty eight hours. 77 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 4: Rachel was dating a wonderful young man. Frank was engaged, 78 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: but they both agreed to break up with a significant 79 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: others and came together. 80 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 5: Frank the son of a retired police officer, was building 81 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 5: an empire and trucking cable and energy, so successful that 82 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: a local online magazine Dubkodropa the Wolf of Aliquippa. Rachel 83 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 5: was the teacher with a soft heart who liked to 84 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 5: help troubled students. And at first, were you happy with 85 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: the relationship? 86 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: Yes, uh huh, Frankie was generous. 87 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: What drew you to her? 88 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 6: Obviously, she's a pretty girl, She's nice, genuine, big hearted, She's. 89 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 7: A good girl. 90 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 5: Were you in love with Rachel? 91 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 8: Yeah? 92 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 6: One time I was absolutely. 93 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 1: You're hearing frank KaTropa. The fiance has had to deal 94 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: with the murder of Rachel Daltonda. But now let's get 95 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: to the designer wedding dress. Take a listen to again 96 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: to our friend Aaron Moriarty. 97 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 5: Wedding plans commenced immediately, and so did a Shakespearean battle 98 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 5: over who was running the show. 99 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: You know how, you get engaged and you let the 100 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: woman take over. Frankie didn't want to do that. 101 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 9: He was in charge of Benner. 102 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 8: Everything. 103 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: Wanted to go to the hall, wanted to see the flowers, 104 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 4: wanted them. I mean, if he could have saw her dress, 105 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 4: he'd be happy. 106 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 6: There was just a lot of outside interference with some 107 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 6: of her family. 108 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 5: Particularly her mom. Yes, Lisa bought her daughter a ten 109 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 5: thousand dollars wedding dress and a pair of three thousand 110 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 5: dollars shoes. Frank as for a prenuptial agreement, and. 111 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 10: I said, you know, how do you feel about that. 112 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 10: She's like, I'm fine with it. 113 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: I'll sign it. 114 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: I don't want him to think that I want him 115 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: just for his money. 116 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 5: But in the end, Rachel refused. 117 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: In the end, she refused the prenup. Let's go out 118 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: to journalist and founder of Beaver County dot Com John Paul. John, 119 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: I want to focus right now on that wedding dress. 120 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: A ten thousand dollars wedding dress. Now, ladies don't judge me, 121 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: but when David and I got decided to get married, 122 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: we decided on a Tuesday that we would get married 123 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: on Saturday. That's how that went down. I ordered a 124 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: wedding dress in two different sizes from a catalog and 125 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: it came just in time. I thought about wearing my boots, 126 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: my cowboy boots, which I wore twenty four to seven, 127 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: three sixty five, But in the end bowed to peer 128 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: pressure and got a beautiful pair of shoes. Gorgeous Jackie 129 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: at DSW. I think that's Designershoe Outlet Warehouse, right. So 130 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time, John Paul, trying to get 131 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: my mind around a ten thousand dollars dress and a 132 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: three especially a three thousand dollars pair of shoes. But 133 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: the mother, Rachael Dultana's mother insisted on it. It was 134 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: going to be a fairy tale wedding. Just my first question, 135 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: John Paul, And I don't know if you've been asked 136 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: this yet. What pair of shoes cost three thousand dollars? 137 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 8: They were designer shoes that the mother purchased, and she 138 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 8: was proud of them. I mean, Rachel Deltona was her 139 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 8: only daughter, and she was the center of their life, 140 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 8: and they adored her, and they're kind of a traditional 141 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 8: Italian family and this was a major milestone, not just 142 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 8: in her life, but in the life of her parents. 143 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 8: And they're not people of extraordinary means, and buying the 144 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 8: shoes was no doubt in extravagance, but I think it 145 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 8: was a loving mother's way of letting a daughter know 146 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 8: that she was proud of her. 147 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: John Paul, John Paul, you're making me think of Cinderella 148 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: and the glass slippers. And to you, doctor Bethany Marshall, 149 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: I get this mother and the three thousand dollars pair 150 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: of shoes. I get it. 151 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 7: Nancy, I get it too. 152 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 11: Hey, I practice in the heart of Beverly Hills, and 153 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 11: I'm thinking, oh lord, okay, so what brand of shoes 154 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 11: did the mom get? I can only think blue Boutons 155 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 11: with Tarasky crystals. That's I'm sure what she had. When 156 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 11: you buy a pair of shoes like that, it's not 157 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 11: the shoes that you're buying. You're buying hopes and dreams. 158 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 11: You're buying the future. You're buying an idealized life founded 159 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 11: on love and attachment. And you're thinking about grandchildren, right 160 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 11: because the mother bought her the shoes. You're thinking about 161 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 11: grandchildren and a home. And then all of that is 162 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 11: cut short. And I think what's tragic is the grand 163 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 11: and beautiful and poignant nature of the dreams juxtaposed between 164 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 11: multiple shots in her daughter's chest Oh in the. 165 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: Driveway and in her driveway. 166 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 7: In the driveway. 167 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Welcome Back. In the Last Hours. 168 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: A high school football star, now in his twenties is 169 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: named the prime suspect in the murder of teacher Rachel 170 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Deltondo's death. She was gunned down outside of her own 171 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: mother's home, firing ten to twelve shots at her neighbors 172 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: reported hearing it. Rachel Deltando pronounced dead at the scene 173 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: around ten thirty pm on Mother's Day night. She had 174 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: just gone out for ice cream. And as you just 175 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: heard from our new friend John Paul, journalist and founder 176 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: of Beaver County in dot com, the parents were by 177 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: no means wealthy, but this is their only daughter, so 178 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: they go overboard and they buy her a Cinderella dress 179 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: for ten thousand dollars and a three thousand dollar pair 180 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: of shoes. When you said, John Paul, their only daughter, 181 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: it just broke my heart. It just broke my heart. 182 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: Joining me Ashley Wilcott, judge, trial lawyer, court TV anchor 183 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: and mother of one girl, I happen to know that 184 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: for a fact, like me, Ashley, you know I would 185 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: never spend that kind of money on myself, forget it. 186 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I get my shoes resold, but for Lucy, 187 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: I might just put it on a credit card. I mean, 188 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't see myself buying a three thousand dollar pair 189 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: of shoes, but I would do something much more extravagant 190 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: for her than I would ever dream of doing for myself. 191 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 9: Absolutely, that's what we do for our kids. And so 192 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 9: while it sounds outlandish to think you'd spend that much money, 193 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 9: you know, keep in mind the description of terms of 194 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 9: their community, right, and so maybe as a parent, you're 195 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 9: gonna do whatever it takes to make that day shine 196 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 9: for your daughter. I think it's extravagant too. But let 197 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 9: me just mention. Do you know how many parents and 198 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 9: young ladies take out loans to cover extravagant expenses like 199 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 9: these because weddings are so important to them. 200 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: You know. It reminds me of in senior year. We 201 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: went on a senior trip and I came home and 202 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: my dad actually had tears in his eyes. I mean, 203 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: they did not have this kind of money, and he 204 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: had bought me a car. It was Toyota Corolla two 205 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: door sky blue, metallic blue, and I just it was 206 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that ever happened to us. For me 207 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: to get a car, I was just unheard of, and 208 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: he was so proud what parents do for their children. 209 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: But then everything went sideways. Take a listen to our 210 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: friends at kd KA Pittsburgh. This is Marty Griffin. 211 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 12: When Rachel got engaged, Mom took over planning a big 212 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 12: time wedding, including a nearly ten thousand dollars gown to 213 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 12: be handmade by a New York designer. 214 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: It was a custom dress had to be made to 215 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: her measurements. 216 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 12: The family put down a deposit of more than four 217 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 12: thousand dollars that, according to the contract, was non refundable 218 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 12: and non transferable under any circumstances. Lisa Deltondo says she 219 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 12: got that from day one. 220 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: I was told that this is binding. 221 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: I knew what this thing said. 222 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 12: They bought the dress at an Gregory for the bride 223 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 12: in Dormont. Rachel Deltondo was measured. The family put down 224 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 12: Nearly half four months after the contract was signed, the 225 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 12: wedding was called off. Lisa Deltondo called the New York 226 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 12: designer to see if they had started on the dress 227 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 12: and asked for a refund. 228 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: I called New York. I did. He told me it 229 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: couldn't be done. 230 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 12: Deltondo says she told the local bridal salon she'd pay 231 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 12: the balance and take delivery of the dress. 232 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: I wanted the gown, sell it. 233 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 12: Deltando says the salon never delivered the dress and refuse 234 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 12: to refund her money, so she took the owner to 235 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 12: small claims court. 236 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Wow, all this the mom is trying to sort through 237 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: To John Paul, journalists, founder of Beaver County and dot com, 238 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: John Paul in a nutshell, And I know you don't 239 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: run the column for the lovelorn, But why did they 240 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: break up? Have anything to do with her not signing 241 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: the print up. 242 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 8: I think their relationship had been described to me is 243 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 8: kind of on again, off again for a very long 244 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 8: time anyway, So they would they would be real close 245 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 8: and then they were kind of distance and then date 246 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 8: and and so the the lack of signing the pre 247 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 8: nump at the time I think was an impetus for 248 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 8: them to kind of break apart some But they continued 249 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 8: to see each other after that. They continue to date, 250 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 8: so it's not like they went their separate ways in 251 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 8: life at that point. And to correct myself, something real quick. 252 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 8: That's sure. I might have mistakenly earlier said that she 253 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 8: was their own child. She was their only daughter. They 254 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 8: have a son that they're also very proud of. 255 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, right, only daughter, just like me, 256 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: Just like ask you. We have one daughter and then 257 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: all those nasty little boys. So let me ask you 258 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: a question. To doctor Bethany Marshall, the reason I'm focusing 259 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: so much on the fiance is because that's who you 260 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: look to initially in every place. You know what, Sorry, Bethany, 261 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: let me throw this to James shell Nutt, twenty seven 262 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: years Metro major case swat now lawyer James shell Nutt. 263 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: No offense to all the husband's exes, lovers, boyfriends out there. 264 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: But that's where the investigation has to start. Bottom line. 265 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: That's what you sign up for when you're in a relationship. 266 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: If that significant other goes missing, you're the first one 267 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: please come. So why is that, shell Nutt? 268 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 13: Well, the reason is is because those are the people 269 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 13: who often commit the crimes against women who come up 270 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 13: missing or debt. You start as an investigator with the 271 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 13: most logical suspects, which generally are the people closest to 272 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 13: the victim. 273 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: That's right. Statistically, it's overwhelming that the perpetrators typically someone 274 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: very close to you, if not romantically linked. Okay, so 275 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: the wedding is called off and that's not an aspersion 276 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: on either one of them. Weddings are postponed. People turned 277 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: down engagements all the time for very intricate reasons that 278 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: we may not understand. But take a listen now to 279 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: KDKA Marty Griffin. 280 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: She took the owner to small Claims Court and it 281 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: says disposition default judgment for plain of. 282 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 12: Court papers indicate the salon owner did not appear for 283 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 12: the hearing. As a result, he was ordered to pay 284 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 12: the Deltondos more than forty six hundred dollars. 285 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: He had thirty days to write us a check or. 286 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 12: File on a pill and he didn't either. He didn't 287 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 12: either salon owner Gregory Jericho in an email, he told 288 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 12: me December god by me with two deaths in the family, 289 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 12: we will be sending a certified check out to Deltondo. 290 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 12: Thanks for your efforts. His attorney sent us a letter stating, 291 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 12: mister Jericho denies that Ann Gregory owed any money to 292 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 12: miss Deltondo, as she was given the purchase contract had 293 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 12: an opportunity to review the terms of the contract, which 294 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 12: unambiguously advised her that the custom order for her bridle 295 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 12: gown could not be refunded. 296 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: The reason this is significant to John Paul, founder Beaver 297 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: County in dot Com is because the engagement, the breakoff, 298 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: and the dress brew haha ends up on local TV 299 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: with one of those consumer report specialists. Isn't that true? 300 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: John Paul? The case was featured on the local news 301 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: and everybody in the in that metro area saw Rachel Deltanda, 302 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: saw the dress and learned the wedding was called off. 303 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: Isn't that true? John Paul? 304 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was, certainly it kind of I guess the 305 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 8: novelty is the word at the time, and obviously this 306 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 8: is before her murder, and you know, novelty is not 307 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 8: the word I would use anymore, but at the time 308 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 8: it was like a novelty and something everyone kind of 309 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 8: spoke about. And Frank Petropa described it as something of 310 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 8: an embarrassment at the time because he is a successful 311 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 8: businessman by any major and to have this sort of 312 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 8: consumer report feature on the local news about disputes over 313 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 8: his ex fiance's wedding dress was a little humiliating, He. 314 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: Said, exactly, so you've got all that brewing to doctor 315 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall' psychoanalyst to Beverly yells, Bethany, why are we 316 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: so there's even been a movie runaway bride? Remember that? 317 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: And then when what was her name, Jackie Jennifer. I'll 318 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: think of it in a moment, The real runaway bride 319 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: that took off and claimed she was abducted. Blah blah blah. 320 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: That was a big lie the night before her wedding. 321 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: Why are we so obsessed with calling off the wedding? 322 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: The runaway bride jilted at the altar? Why why do 323 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 1: people love that so much? I don't get it. 324 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 11: I can tell you why, because when you have a 325 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 11: fairytale wedding and you have a princess, you put that 326 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 11: person on a pedestal. And if you've seen pictures of 327 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 11: Long Brown where each photo has beautiful makeup, high heels, 328 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 11: sequin embellished dresses, so she is a real life, real 329 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 11: life princess in a very small town. So when we 330 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 11: see Prince Charming and his bride, we all inject ourselves 331 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 11: into the story because we want those kinds of lives. 332 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 11: For ourselves and then when they break up, it sparks 333 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 11: all kinds of fantasies. 334 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: A prime suspect has been named in the murder of 335 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: high school teacher Rachel del Tondo. Now, according to the 336 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: local prosecutor, her murder has been very difficult to prosecute. 337 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: No eyewitnesses can never recover the gun used in the shooting, 338 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: but now GPS and surveillance footage has built a very 339 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: strong case. Reportedly that the former student had a quote 340 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: pattern of stalking his teacher around the time of her murder. 341 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: We're learning that warrants are set down to be unsealed 342 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: the day I appealed to the public for help, saying 343 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: his office knees lynchpin evidence placing Jeter at the crime 344 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: scene and is willing to offer a reward. What happened 345 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: to Rachel deltondau? What more do we know? Take a 346 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: listen to our friends at CBS forty eight hours. This 347 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: is Aaron Moriarty. 348 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 5: Lisa Deltondo was extremely close with her thirty three year 349 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 5: old daughter. Rachel was still living at home with Lisa 350 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 5: and her father, Joe Deltondo. 351 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: Every night She'd come in every night, sit at my bed, 352 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: and give me a synopsis of the whole day. 353 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 5: That night, there would be no bedside report. After supper, 354 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: Rachel went for ice cream with friends, and then just 355 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: minutes after being dropped back home around ten forty five pm, 356 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 5: Rachel was shot several times at close range. 357 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 8: The information I have from law enforcement is that they 358 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 8: do believe she knew her killer. They believe it to 359 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 8: be a crime of passion. 360 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: To Joseph Scott, Morgan forensics expert, professor forensics, jacksonvill State 361 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: and author, let's analyze the same. I know, Joe Scott, 362 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: your expertise is forensics. 363 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 13: I love that. 364 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: I know you probably think I spent too long on 365 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: the wedding dress, but I had to set up the 366 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: moment because all of that matters too. Now you hit 367 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: me with a forensics scout. 368 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: I got to tell you, no, I think the wedding 369 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: dress is a fantastic idea because, my god, there are 370 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: certainly motivation, there a lot of anger. But from the 371 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 3: perspective of the forensics, you know, they mentioned that this 372 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 3: is a close range event. That means that this individual 373 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: was able to get close to her and they're able 374 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: to determine range of fire by just saying that, Okay, 375 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: that's where that's coming from. So what we think, or 376 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: what I would think approsely putting forward, is that there 377 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: might be there might be powder and that is un 378 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: burned gunpowder on her person, and that would put the 379 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: individual within possibly three maybe two feet away from this individual. 380 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 3: So they're talking about close range. That's significant here, Nancy. 381 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: How was this individual able to get so close to 382 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: her at the side entrance of the house and then 383 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: put this many rounds into her body at that moment? 384 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: How many rounds? How many rounds? 385 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: I don't know from what I've heard thus far. 386 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Do we know, John Paul, do you know how many 387 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: times she was actually shot? 388 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 8: The information I for investigators is basically the entire handgun 389 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 8: had been loaded into her. 390 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: Okay, that is rage she is targeted. And Joe Scott 391 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: Morgan is speaking in highly technical terms as usual, But 392 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: what he's trying to say about gunshot Potter is police 393 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: say that it was a close range. How do you 394 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: know that if it's point blank a shot to the 395 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: head or the body. You see stippling or burn marks 396 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: where the bullet comes out of the gun and it 397 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: leaves almost like a tattoo. On your skin. Close range 398 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: gunshot powder residue GSR. When you fire a gun, it 399 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: goes about can go about thirty six inches, which means 400 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: if they found gunshot residue on her on her body, 401 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: that means the killer was about was within thirty six 402 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: inches to her body based on gunshot residue, right, Joe Scott, Yeah, 403 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: you're right. 404 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: And if you yeah, and I've heard you use this analogy, 405 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: and this is a perfect in the past. Actually, when 406 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: we think about a water hose when you press when 407 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: you press the nozzle on a water hose, say in 408 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: the yard, and it kind of spreads out. The further 409 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: you go from the end of that water hose, the 410 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: further that that fount of water spreads out. The same 411 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: thing with powder. You've got a projectile that is the 412 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: bullet itself firing into the body, but you've got all 413 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: of this other debris that comes out of the end 414 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 3: of the barrel, specifically unfurned powder. And the further it's 415 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: spread out, the greater the distance. So after a moment 416 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: in time, that powder is going to fall to the earth. 417 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: It's not very aerodynamic, so it'll fall to the earth 418 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: baby powder, Yeah, yeah, exactly, baby powder is the perfect, 419 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: perfect example with this. I ort to anybody at home 420 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: that wants to know how to do this, simply put 421 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 3: some palf. 422 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 10: In your hand, standing in a well lighted room. I 423 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 10: teach mess students, says at Jacksonville State and blow and 424 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 10: you'll see how in that moment it'll just disperse into 425 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 10: the air, this cloud, and this deposits on the body 426 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 10: and it's superheated many times. And when you said tattooing, 427 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 10: that's actually what we call it. The unburned powder gets 428 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 10: beneath the skin and it's embedded in there, almost like tattooing. 429 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: To John Paul, journalist, founder of Beavercounty in dot com, 430 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: John Paul, what time of the day or night was this? 431 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 8: It was at night, so yeah, you're being Chartley before 432 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 8: eleven pm, at nine seven pm. 433 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: And she had been out to an ice cream parlor 434 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: with who what friends? 435 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 8: But Lorden Watkins was the one driving the car and Tyrie. 436 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: How old was she? 437 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 8: She would have been seventeen at the time. 438 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: So were these her students? No, so she had friends 439 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: with younger people he did. Okay, that just strikes me 440 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: as odd. I don't know why, but maybe it's not odd, 441 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: but she was with two. How old was the other person? 442 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 8: Tyree would have been in his twenties. I believe mid twenties. 443 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: Okay, so a male and a female. The female was 444 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: driving For all I know. There were previous students, were 445 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: they John Paul? 446 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 8: Neither of them had ever been her students? 447 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: Interesting? Interesting to me. So as police are digging through 448 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: this case, trying to figure out who, what, where, why, 449 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: and when information comes to light, take a listen about 450 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: a previous event, CBS forty eight hours Aaron Moriarty. 451 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: According to the report, it was nearly two am when 452 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 5: Rachel and Sheldon were discovered in her car, not eleven PM, 453 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 5: as Rachel had said, and not at the circle K, 454 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: but in this abandoned lot. You obviously come here not 455 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 5: to be seen. 456 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 8: You've come here to not be seen. The police said 457 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 8: the windows were steed, which made them believe that the 458 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 8: vehicle had been parked for some time, and the passenger 459 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 8: seat was fully reclined. 460 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 5: The report states that Rachel told police that Sheldon was 461 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: once a student of hers and now a friend and 462 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: they were just talking, But it also says she didn't 463 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 5: want her fiance to know because he would get mad, 464 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 5: and he was upset about it. 465 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 6: He was upset when he was about to leave his 466 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 6: out of the water. You know, it was more confused 467 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: than anything angry. I wouldn't say that I was angry. 468 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: Frank was allowed to take home that copy of the report, 469 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 5: and a day or two later, someone used did it 470 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 5: to strike a devastating blow at Rachel del Tondo's reputation. 471 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: Man, I can't believe this happened to that girl. To 472 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: John Paul, journalists founder Beaver County dot Com, John Paul, 473 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: wasn't it generally proven that Rachel was not making out 474 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: or having sex relations with this younger guy who is 475 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: a former student. They were both clothed when the cops 476 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: came up to the car. The car, Yes, it was 477 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: two am, and as I love to argue to jury's 478 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: nothing good happens after midnight, two am and a parked 479 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: car in an abandoned parking lot. But when cops came 480 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: up to it, they were in fact sitting there talking. 481 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: Do I have that right, John Paul? 482 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 8: Yeah? They certainly. There were no charges filed by police, 483 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 8: and their incident report that was generated about a year 484 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 8: later doesn't mention any witnessing of inappropriate behavior. That being said, 485 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 8: Sheldon Juter's attorney, Michael Santacola, has said that Sheldon and 486 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 8: Rachel had been having a sexual relationship since Sheldon had 487 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 8: been about fifteen or sixteen. That's something that Rachel's family 488 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 8: vehently denies, and when she was alive, that's something that 489 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 8: she had denied to me. 490 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: So even though police approached them and they are dressed 491 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: and they are in fact just talking, there was a 492 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: police report made. The main thing she said was don't 493 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: tell my fiance. This is what we learn. Someone anonymously, 494 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: someone with that police report anonymously emails and texts the 495 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: incident to Rachel's school, the school board, the mayor, the media. 496 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: It's unknown who sent it, although how can you not 497 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: check the IP on the email? And the report was 498 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: sent two days after Frank KaTropa, the jilted fiance, receives 499 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: the report. He claims he didn't do it. Okay, what 500 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: effect did that have on her reputation? To John Paul 501 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: journalists Beaver County dot com. When someone the parents believe 502 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: it was the fiance, emailed out texted out this report 503 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: to the school board. What happened? 504 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 8: Well, you can imagine what happened? Happened? She gets suspended 505 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 8: from her job. It makes front page news that a 506 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 8: teacher was caught in a car with a young person, 507 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 8: and uh. 508 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: It was. 509 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 8: It was a matter of a most controversy. 510 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 6: A team. 511 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace Welcome back, of course, the former 512 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: student slash lover's defense lawyer who says that the district 513 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: attorney's announcement naming his client prime suspect reeks of quote 514 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: desperation and is much ado about nothing? Did he dare 515 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: quote Shakespeare? Oh? Yes he did, But let's see about that. 516 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: Deltino's parents say they believe Jeter is guilty of killing 517 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: their daughter. They also said a lot of information connected 518 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: to the case has not been released to public. As 519 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: of right now, no one has been formally charged, no 520 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: one has been tried, nobody has been convicted. What happened 521 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: to Rachel Deltondau? What more do we know? Her past 522 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: is extremely important to the fact that she was murdered 523 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: execution style in her parents' own driveway ed mushrooms out 524 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: of control. Take a listen to our cut thirteen. 525 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 5: Less than a month after she was murdered, there were 526 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 5: three police chiefs in that all Equippa police department in 527 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: the span of one week, three police chiefs, and in fact, 528 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 5: the third chief actually handed over the investigation to the 529 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 5: county Detectives Bureau, So that gives you a sentence. When 530 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 5: you have those kind of distractions, it's very, very difficult 531 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 5: to focus on an investigation. And in fact, Rachel's murder 532 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 5: is actually the ninth unsolved murder in that area, So 533 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 5: people are losing faith in the police department. 534 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: To James Shell not twenty seven years metro major case 535 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: swat officer now lawyer. 536 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 13: Way In, Well, I mean, I think that one of 537 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 13: the first things you have to do is you have 538 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 13: to go back and take a look at all the 539 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 13: possible suspects in this case and what her current relationship 540 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 13: was with them. You know, you have got an awful 541 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 13: lot of people that either need to be eliminated or 542 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 13: need to have tenued investigation. 543 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: You know. 544 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 13: The concern that I have at this point in time 545 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 13: is that there are a lot of missed opportunities. There's 546 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 13: missed opportunities as far as taking a look at these witnesses, 547 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 13: getting things spend down, and I just I'm not sure 548 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 13: with the state of that department, with how things were handled, 549 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 13: whether or not they have lost some critical information that's 550 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 13: put them behind eight ball, you know. 551 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,239 Speaker 1: G John Paul, Founderbiaver County dot com. The fact that 552 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: that police report was leaked, It should never have been 553 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: given to the fiance to start with, but it was 554 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: then it was leaked, that her reputation was destroyed, then 555 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: she was gutted down. Why was it leaked? 556 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 8: Well, I think that's I think that's a very good question. 557 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 8: I think that's one that investigators would like an answer to. Certainly. 558 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 8: The other big issue that to create a problem for 559 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 8: the police department is the leak was not just to 560 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 8: the police report, but it also contained sensitive information from 561 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 8: a lot enforcement only justice network database that hand and 562 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 8: that contained. 563 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: Also if you had that database, what could you learn? 564 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: What good is the database? 565 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 8: Well, it provided the photographs, driver's license numbers, social security numbers. 566 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 8: I mean, it was every bit of private information about 567 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 8: yourself that a police department might have or that the 568 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 8: state might have that you could imagine. So that leak 569 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 8: was much more than just the report. It was a 570 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 8: sensitive personal information in state of Pennsylvania. 571 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: It's unlawfuled very sensitive. 572 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 11: Nancy, can I make a comment about that yes jump 573 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 11: In my clinical practice, whenever somebody reports to me that 574 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 11: their lover, their boyfriend, their friend is threatening to expose 575 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 11: them to their employer, I always think homicide. That's my 576 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 11: first worry that crosses my mind, because when you love somebody, 577 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 11: when you want to marry them, when they are your 578 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 11: best friend, when you've cherished that relationship, the last thing 579 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 11: you want to do is cause them to lose their job. 580 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 11: The last thing you want to do is be smirched 581 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 11: their reputation, make them look terrible. But whoever either released 582 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 11: that report or once it got into the hands of 583 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 11: the fiance, whoever sent it to the school board had 584 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 11: simmering hate and resentment towards her. They wanted to take 585 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 11: her down. When you report something negative to somebody's employer, 586 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 11: you're not thinking about their future anymore. You're cutting their 587 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 11: life short professionally, and that kind of person might have 588 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 11: wanted to cut her life short in a dramatic physical 589 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 11: way too well. 590 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Bethany. Less than one month after Rachel was murdered, three 591 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: police chiefs in the span of one week. The last 592 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: chief turned the investigation over to county detectives. Rachel's murder 593 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: the night dune saw murder in the area. Okay to you, 594 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan and the aftermath of her murder. Three 595 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: police chiefs. 596 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's. 597 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: If somebody's covering something up, Joe Scott. That's all I 598 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: can say about. 599 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 3: That something is yea, I absolutely agree with you. And 600 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: also to this point. Look, I'm a death investigator by trade. 601 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: That's all I have literally ever done, and so it 602 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: is the single most intense investigation from a forensic standpoint 603 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 3: that you can conduct. If your eyes are not on 604 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: the ball in a case like this and other cases 605 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: that this department is intimately involved with, you're going to 606 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 3: miss You're going to miss the big picture because you're 607 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: skipping over the finer details. They don't have time to 608 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: analyze the finer details because they're too busy, you know, 609 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: not being able to to take care of their own house. Here. 610 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: This is a major problem. 611 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: It's a huge mess. John Paul, Founder Beaver County in 612 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: dot com. Why three police chiefs in the aftermath of 613 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: her murder? What's happening? 614 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 8: Well, the first police chief was suspended when a councilman 615 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 8: came forward and said that he was aware that the 616 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 8: chief was the subject of a criminal investigation by the 617 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 8: state police. 618 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: Okay, but about the second one. 619 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 8: The second one was arrested by county detectives after he 620 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 8: had allegedly sent a pornographic image to Lauren Watkins, who 621 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 8: was the friend that dropped Rachel Deltondo off at home 622 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 8: the night that she was killed. And then the third 623 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 8: chief was the one that eventually turned it over to 624 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 8: county detectives. And that chief has since passed. 625 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: So all of this is stemming out were connected to 626 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: Rachel del Tondo's murder, and it's still und okay, question, 627 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: let's hear now, what's happening. 628 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 5: Just hours after Rachel Deltanda was killed, police were at 629 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 5: Sheldon Jeter's doorstep looking to question him, and a search 630 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 5: warrant application indicates that that visit raised questions. It states 631 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 5: that they asked Sheldon for the clothing he was wearing 632 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 5: that night, and he gave them other clothes. 633 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 3: That's not how it went down. 634 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 12: There was a polo clothes laying on the floor next 635 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 12: to his bed where he was sleeping. They got up 636 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 12: and said, are these the clothes that you were wearing? 637 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 7: Yeah? 638 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 3: Oh, my clothes are right there, So they scooped. 639 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 5: It up Sheldon's attorney insists it's not his client's fault 640 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 5: that the cops picked up the wrong clothes, but the 641 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 5: Warren application also states Sheldon failed to display any emotion 642 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 5: when he was informed of Rachel's death. 643 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 8: That's absolutely untrue. 644 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 6: He was shocked. 645 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 8: He was in shock. 646 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 5: Lauren Wwkins, who has known Sheldon since elementary school, says 647 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 5: she doesn't believe he's capable of murder. She says she 648 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 5: never knew Rachel and Sheldon to have any type of 649 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 5: romantic relationship. 650 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: Guys, what happened to Rachel Daltando? It sounds like a 651 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: huge mess, you know, Ashley Wilcott, When you have to 652 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: hand your investigation over to somebody else like here, they 653 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: handed it over to county sheriffs. That's a horrible sign. God, 654 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: it says to me, something stinks. 655 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 9: Oh, I completely agree with you. And don't forget a 656 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 9: couple of little facts that I want to remind everybody about. 657 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 9: Number one is the fiance. I understood his father was 658 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 9: law enforcement at some point. The one of the girls 659 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 9: that she was having ice cream with I believe was 660 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 9: related to law enforcements. It is a tangled web, and 661 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 9: it's a mess. And let me just say this, When 662 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 9: you have this much turnover, I work for a county. 663 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 9: Right when you have this much turnover, there are bigger issues. 664 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 9: You've got major problems. And I think the major problem 665 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 9: here is people know things and are doing nothing about 666 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 9: it to solve. 667 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 1: This murder, the murder of Rachel del Tondo on Mother's Day. 668 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: At this hour, we learned that the so called lover, 669 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: younger lover and former student has been named as prime 670 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: suspect in the young teacher's murderer, Sheldon Jeter. We wait 671 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: as justice unfolds. Goodbye,