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Speaker 1: breaking this afternoon Late Kick Live, Tuesday, June eighteenth, the

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Speaker 1: O Our Lord twenty twenty four. We're sort of high

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Speaker 1: like decommitments. I've got Dabo's legacy. Someone came at me,

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Speaker 1: So let's dive in. Colin, who is all the way

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Speaker 1: state that you need to win national championships. You can't

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Speaker 1: do it. So you got to go get a meltzwhere

428
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you're going to bat a thousand. Even

429
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Speaker 1: when you get them verbally committed, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: I would argue in the waters, USC is going to

431
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 1: half to fish in, you know, in the in the conversations,

432
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,959
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be in it. Almost lets you

433
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: know you're on the right track when you had this

434
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Speaker 1: stuff happening to you. It's not gonna soften the blow

435
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of you got your hopes

436
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: up when you saw a five star defensive lineman from

437
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: State of Georgia committing to you, this stuff's gonna happen. Look,

438
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: let me just give you another heads up. You may

439
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: not be done losing them this cycle. You just got

440
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 1: to keep swinging. They lose them at Georgia, they lose

441
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: them at Bama, they lose them at Texas. You just

442
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: got to keep swinging. So the reason I mentioned this

443
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: is because I had a couple of people in my

444
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Speaker 1: inbox as I was driving over here, and they were

445
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: asking me, well, what do you say about USC now?

446
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: What the world else would I say about them, keep

447
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: trying to do exactly what you're trying to do. But

448
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, like even the landings of

449
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Speaker 1: the world, like Ryan Day, the other big time recruiting programs, Dude,

450
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: they know, they know. If you're going into states like

451
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Speaker 1: Georgia and you're trying to take defensive players that Kirby

452
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Speaker 1: Smart wants you have got, you've got a fire on

453
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Speaker 1: your hands the likes of which you've never experienced in recruiting.

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Speaker 1: And for the record, now Ohio State's heavily involved here.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think he's on a visit to Ohio

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Speaker 1: State right now. But Ohio State's played this game for

457
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: a long time, and they know. You talk to folks

458
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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, and while they got the number one

459
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Speaker 1: class in the country right now, if you win in

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Speaker 1: the building, like if you talk to Mark Pantoni, if

461
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: you go talk to Ryan Day, if you talk to

462
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Speaker 1: that staff, they know you don't want a big chest

463
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Speaker 1: in June. That is not what Mema ever told me,

464
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Speaker 1: for obvious reasons. But you don't want that big recruiting

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Speaker 1: chest in June. In fact, now, even once you get

466
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Speaker 1: him on campus, you can't have the big chess, so

467
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: you can never have the big chest. But they know

468
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: they've been through this stuff. Maybe they'll take this kid

469
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: that decommitted from USI they've had them taken from them

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Speaker 1: several times. So my response to it is, that's recruiting.

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Speaker 1: Was essentially what I DMed a couple of people, and

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Speaker 1: that's my response here. That's recruiting sucks for Lincoln Riley

473
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Speaker 1: and company today. Keep swinging, keep swinging. Don't let it

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Speaker 1: be the last time you tried to go to the

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Speaker 1: South and take kids just because it didn't work out

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Speaker 1: for you. Right now, and we move on back to

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Speaker 1: our regularly scheduled programming. All right. A couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's been now, maybe three weeks ago. I

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Speaker 1: asked you guys, just give me your own popular opinions,

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Speaker 1: strictly college football opinions, and boy you did. And while

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Speaker 1: I've actually agreed with some of you, you talk about some,

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Speaker 1: I can't get on board with Colin. Throw the first

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Speaker 1: one up, Oh man, I need I took tailand all

484
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Speaker 1: before I came here. I need two more. I want

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Speaker 1: you to listen to this. So DEEG hit us up

486
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Speaker 1: with his unpopular college football tape, he said, I don't

487
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Speaker 1: mind Monday night national championship games. I like watching NFL

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Speaker 1: in college. It's nice when they don't compete and I

489
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: don't have to choose. Hey, you know what else would happen,

490
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: Dee that would lead you to not having to choose.

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Speaker 1: What could happen is the NFL shifting to the early

492
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Speaker 1: and mid afternoon windows and providing a double lead in

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Speaker 1: to a Saturday night primetime college football national championship game.

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Speaker 1: When we had Cloud on the show last spring, he

495
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: and I talked about this for like thirty minutes. I

496
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: thought he put forth a really good plan. And it's

497
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Speaker 1: these networks are not exclusive to NFL or college There

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Speaker 1: are years where a network has NFL playoff games and

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Speaker 1: then they have the college football Playoff or the national

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Speaker 1: Championship game. So my beef has always been it's never

501
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: seemed like they got in the same room and tried

502
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Speaker 1: to figure this thing out. It's the NFL takes whatever

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Speaker 1: it wants in college piss off, just go play on

504
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Speaker 1: Monday night, which is not the way it should be.

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Speaker 1: Who in the world wants a college football national championship

506
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Speaker 1: game on a Monday night? Even dig just said it

507
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Speaker 1: doesn't bother him. He didn't say he liked it. So

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Speaker 1: picture this, Just picture this NFL playoff game one pm.

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Speaker 1: NFL Playoff game four h five pm Eastern Standard time,

510
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Speaker 1: double lead in college football national championship game kicks off

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Speaker 1: at eight. That's the way it should be in a

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Speaker 1: world where, by the way, the powers that be in

513
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Speaker 1: the NFL realize that college football is a multi billion

514
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Speaker 1: dollar development, mental, and marketing machine for the NFL, which

515
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: is never acknowledged. You already know those players when they

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00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: get to the NFL. How do you know them? Where

517
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: were they before they came to the NFL. Do you

518
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: have any idea what that's worth in marketing? Do you

519
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: have any idea how little they care about development at

520
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: the NFL level. They don't draft kids to develop them.

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00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: They draft kids, hopefully because they are developed, so that

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Speaker 1: they can play on Sunday. Where did they develop? So

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00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: college football does a to Z for the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: yet I can't even get enough cooperation from the powers

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Speaker 1: that be in the NFL to let college football have

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Speaker 1: a Saturday night national championship game. This is a very

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Speaker 1: unpopular opinion. So I will grant you that Deke I

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00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: asked from popular takes, and you gave me one. Monday

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Speaker 1: night National championship games in college football are the work

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Speaker 1: of the devil. It is evidence that Satan works in

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Speaker 1: our sporting society, because any other sane person, in any

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Speaker 1: other sane society would look and say, college football, Saturday sport.

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Speaker 1: What night should I put that game on? Let's try Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Wish we could, Wish we could, but it's not that simple.

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00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Just simple minded people like us college football fans can't

536
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: be left to decide this sort of thing. No, we

537
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: got to have folks who couldn't tell you what the

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00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: mascot of Arizona is for the life of them in

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Speaker 1: a high rise in Manhattan. Ton't decide that for us.

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Speaker 1: Next up, next, next unpopular take. While this is good content,

541
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: it's not so good for one's health. Brian hit us

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Speaker 1: up from Topeka, Kansas. If you're listening on podcast, go

543
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: ahead and grip a solid ten in two here. The

544
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Speaker 1: Big ten isn't as strong as the Big twelve in football.

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00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: They have people, and they have marketing, but they don't

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00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: have the good team's top to bottom. Well, all right,

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Speaker 1: that is an unpopular take, Brian. There is consensus disapproval,

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Speaker 1: including for me on this and I have been trumpeting

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00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve as America's college football comp difference. But

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00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: I warned and cautioned the other day you can't confuse

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00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: competition with quality. I can have a very very competitive

552
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: five way fight between people who can't walk into your

553
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: gum at the same time themselves. That is not quality.

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00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: It's just they all suck. Now, in the Big Twelve,

555
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: they don't all suck, but you absolutely lack the top end.

556
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: You absolutely lack rosters littered with future Sunday guys. That's

557
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: not the end all be all. But to suggest now

558
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: because you did the comparative, not me. I never want

559
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: a traffic in this. I couldn't care less about it.

560
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: But if you want a traffic in the whole, Big

561
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: twelve's better than Big Ten. Listen, here's the correct take. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there are middle of the pack teams and programs in

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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve that I could take and I could

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00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: place in the Big Ten and they would still be

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00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: middle of the pack. Oklahoma State, for example, If I

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00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: plugged Oklahoma State via the grab claw machine and drop

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00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: them in the Big Ten, they'd be a middle of

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Speaker 1: the pack Big ten program. Here's your problem. I could

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Speaker 1: take the middle of the pack Big ten program like Iowa,

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00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: PLoP them in the Big twelve, and their favored to

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Speaker 1: win the conference this year. So these two things are

572
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: not the same. You also cannot do the thing where

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Speaker 1: you shave the top off the Big Ten. A lot

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00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: of folks say it's a top heavy conference, all right,

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00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: But what you can't do is you can't say, take

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Speaker 1: away Ohio State and Michigan and they're no different than

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Speaker 1: anyone else. Well, that's probably why they have Ohio State

578
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Speaker 1: and Michigan. What you can't do is you can't shave

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Speaker 1: their top two off and then seed it properly. What

580
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: you'd have to do if you wanted to do that

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00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: is if you take Ohio State and Michigan for me, well,

582
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: then I get to take Utah and Kansas State from you.

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00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Then what are we doing. We're comparing Penn State to Kansas,

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00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: We're comparing Oregon to Iowa State, USC to Texas Tech.

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00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: I think you guys know who would be overwhelmingly favored

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00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: on a neutral field in these matchups. I think you know,

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00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: historically program versus program, who's been higher quality recruiting it's

588
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: not close. The ninth best recruiting program in the Big

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00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: Ten over the last five years would be number one

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Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve over that same timeframe. You could say,

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00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: Josh that the recruiting industry is corrupt. The recruiting industry

592
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: is part of this. If anything, they created this monster.

593
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: That's part of the marketing, that's part of the mirage.

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00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: Is the NFL in on it too. Guys Big ten

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00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: last five years, two hundred and thirty seven, guys taken

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00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: in the draft, Big twelve one hundred and twenty nine.

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00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: So it's kind of the SEC bias thing, but it's

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00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: applied here. Either everyone's in on the conspiracy top to bottom,

599
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: or you're just wrong when you say the Big twelve

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Speaker 1: is better than the Big Ten. I love the Big Twelve.

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00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: It may very well be my favorite conference to watch

602
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: this upcoming year, but it will not be because team

603
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: for team, they are higher quality than the Big Ten. Conversely,

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00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: it's just because I don't care about that. At the

605
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: end of the day, I love watching very, very competitive

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00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: football played at a pretty high level, and we have

607
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: that in the Big Twelve. Let's continue why not unpopular opinions?

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00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: We have gone sit at your own in the corner

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00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: of the lunch room. Unpopular so far. So our buddy

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00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Jake Crane from Crany Company hit us and said, neutral

611
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: site games to start off the year suck. This isn't

612
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: even unpopular. So this gets everyone back on the same

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00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: road pretty much, because I don't even talk to someone

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Speaker 1: that it eats, sleeps, and breathe this stuff that ever says. Boy,

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00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: you know what I love? I love college football being

616
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: played in Atlanta, Georgia's Mercedes Been Stadium to start the year.

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Speaker 1: The folks who run that place, the folks who run

618
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: the Chick fil A kickoff, wonderful people, great people. But

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Speaker 1: you know what else is great? Georgia plays Clemson in

620
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: that game to start the year. You know what else

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Speaker 1: is great? Games at Sanford Stadium, games at Tiger Stadium,

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00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: get games in Clemson, games in Athens. Again. It's like,

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Speaker 1: it's such a simple concept, right. We've got the greatest

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Speaker 1: sport on the face of the earth, with the most

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00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: unique commodity in sports, which is the Saturday game day

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00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: atmosphere on college campuses Campy Lurala campus. And what do

627
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: we do. We say, let's have less of that. Let's

628
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: go take these teams, premier teams from places where they

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00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: have premiere game day environments, and let's sanitize the thing.

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00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to an NFL venue, lsu USC, let's have

631
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Speaker 1: them play in Las Vegas. Great ass, wonderful. No again,

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00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: I look this year and I say Notre Dame at

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00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Texas A and M to start the season week one,

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Speaker 1: and you just gotta you gotta golf clap them. You

635
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: got a hat tip. Notre Dame's going to College Station

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Speaker 1: to play in week one. Miami is going to Gainesville

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00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: to play Florida in Week one. Again, you golf clap it,

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00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: because that's what should litter the week one college football schedule.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about this one. Max from Avon, Ohio said,

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Speaker 1: this is interpretive. So what's a disaster of a year?

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Speaker 1: And I assume you're not meaning injury. I assume you

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Speaker 1: mean he doesn't play well enough. Well, here's the problem

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Speaker 1: with this. If quinn Ewers is having a disaster of

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Speaker 1: over there. There's no world where Quinn Owers is allowed

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Speaker 1: to have a full season. That's disastrous first off. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: the floor is high with him, like, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Again, I don't know what disaster means for you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he just doesn't have as good a year as

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Speaker 1: he had last year. Okay, that's not a disaster. He

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Speaker 1: had a pretty good year last year. So I think

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Speaker 1: I think the ceiling's high. I think the floor is

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Speaker 1: very high too, because you're being developed by one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the game, and they're surrounding you with

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Speaker 1: that's a disaster, Okay, I would push back, but okay,

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Speaker 1: but just flat out, Quinn, youwers being disastrous. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I put a nine point five on this. I don't

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Speaker 1: Reasonable minds could agree at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: But remember if you predict something and it's a nine

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Speaker 1: about that. Next up, man, this monitor Gelby gave me

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Speaker 1: is great football. One oh one from Portland, Oregon said

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Speaker 1: two former Pac twelve teams will face off in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game. These are deep waters that you're

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Speaker 1: swimming in bold waters. I put a nine point twenty

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Speaker 1: five on this. So Oregon has the second best odds

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Speaker 1: to win the conference. Clearly, Oregon's got to be half

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Speaker 1: of this. And then I would imagine USC's fifth, Washington, seventh,

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Speaker 1: UCLA thirteenth. Clearly, you know the odds would suggest your

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Speaker 1: best shot at this is Oregon versus USC in the

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Speaker 1: conference title game. Okay, uh USC does avoid Oregon in

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Speaker 1: Ohio State in the regular season. The problem is not

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Speaker 1: with Oregon Oregon. It's very easy for me to cea

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Speaker 1: stylistically navigating their way through the Big Ten and having

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Speaker 1: a spot in the championship game. USC doing that. It's

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Speaker 1: harder to see. It's not impossible, but think about it.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at their schedule. Colin's showing it to you

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Speaker 1: maybe even expect them to be. There is not an

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Speaker 1: Ohio State on that regular season schedule. There's not an

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Speaker 1: just down a little bit more than they hope to be.

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Speaker 1: Penn State goes to the coliseum. Penn State struggled in

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Speaker 1: some of those bigger games. Those are the humps that

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Speaker 1: they haven't quite gotten over. So maybe just maybe USC

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Speaker 1: finds a way. It's tough for me to envision because

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they've got the defensive depth to

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Speaker 1: withstand that kind of year. A nine point twenty five

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Speaker 1: on the boldness scale. What kind of message does that

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Speaker 1: send if it is Oregon versus USC in year one

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Championship game? Next up? Now, this

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Speaker 1: radars yet. Matt from making Georgia Georgia Tech upsets FSU

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Speaker 1: in Dublin. Not Dublin Georgia Dublin, Ireland. So this is

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Speaker 1: one of those Week zero games. Not a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of Week zero as a concept, but it is happening.

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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech over FSU. How bold is that to you?

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Speaker 1: It's only an eight point twenty five for me. The

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Speaker 1: line on this game's FIU minus twelve and a half.

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Speaker 1: FSU's got a new quarterback. They are ninetieth or something

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Speaker 1: like that in returning production. Georgia Tech conversely, coming off

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Speaker 1: one of their best years in quite a while, their

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Speaker 1: top ten in offensive returning production. Haines King is still

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Speaker 1: the quarterback there. Okay, so the quarterback experience edge is

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Speaker 1: on the side of Georgia Tech. You felt something last

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Speaker 1: year with them, and they had close losses too last year.

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Speaker 1: I mean several of the losses were close, so that

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Speaker 1: may be a program a little bit closer than people

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Speaker 1: are giving them credit for good ground game. It's the

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Speaker 1: right time to be playing FSU when they're still pilling

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Speaker 1: the sticker off a lot of these new pieces they

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Speaker 1: got not ready to pick the game. But that's only

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Speaker 1: an eight point twenty five on the boldness scale for me.

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Speaker 1: That's not totally out of the realm of possibility. We

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Speaker 1: that was a turnover fest, but those count, so anything

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Speaker 1: could happen. Lastly, this one sounds bold, but it's not

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Speaker 1: all that incredibly bold. Christian from Athens, Georgia said, neither

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Speaker 1: conference champs, so they're gonna be at large teams. So

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Speaker 1: you get five conference champs in this thing the other

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Speaker 1: seven are at large. Mathematically it works in your favor there.

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Speaker 1: But think about this. I put an eight point twenty

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Speaker 1: Well in the world where it all works out like

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Speaker 1: or you may have chalkhold and at which point it's

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Speaker 1: very difficult to see two at large teams playing for

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Speaker 1: them to play for the conference title. But you're looking

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Speaker 1: they're going to be a nightmare to deal with. That's

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