1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. What 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: an incredible week the shooting in New York City. I've 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: got great interviews with people who had family members in 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: the building, people who heard the gunshots ring out in 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: midtown Manhattan, not a place you would think about having 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: a mass shooting event or you know, other types of things. 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Especially it's proximity to uh, you know, Fifth Avenue and 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: Iconic Park Avenue. You know, it's a it's a really 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: a nice part of New York City. But I want 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: to get right to our first guest here. We're very 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: honored to have with us, Christine Manettis. 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: How are you. 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: I'm doing well. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Yeah, thank you for joining us. Christine. 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Christine is the author of Why the World Doesn't Make Sense, 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: Reclaiming the Liberty you didn't know you lost? 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: I lost it? What happened. 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: It's been a long time making, but we're going to 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: get it back. 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: Frogs in a pod, right, No, Yeah. 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: The book is really just about saying not just like 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: why did we get like not how, but why are 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: we here? What are all these underlying issues? And so 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: just pulling back the curtain right, whether we're talking about money, politics, 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: everyday life, culture, It's all the same thing. It's a 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: society that's become untethered from truth, and so I wanted 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: to really examine that and what we do about it, 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: starting with ourselves as individuals. 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about your background. 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: My background is a little bit all over the map, 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: so that a pretty interesting life. I started off as 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: a concert pianist when I was a kid, which I 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: absolutely loved, had an injury and transitioned into law. I 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: was a trial attorney for a little while, fell in 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: love with constitutional law. I was a criminal defense attorney, 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: and then went into entrepreneurship. Had some great experiences building 38 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: some companies, everything for medical devices to commercial real estate. 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: Got into the bitcoin space around twenty seventeen and have 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: been in bitcoin and digital assets since then. And these 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: days I do this, so it's. 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: Been quite a jit. We have two things in common. 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: I played the piano, but I'm not a concert pianist, 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: and I'm a commercial real estate broker for thirty eight years, 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: so I can relate. But so a lot of concerns, right. 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: I have four children, three or done with college, ones 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: just about done. They have families and kids of their 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: own most of them. You know, thirty years ago, you'd 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: come out of college making fifty seventy eighty one hundred 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: grand a year with bonus offers to join a law firm. 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: Now it's twenty years later, the dollar is worth half 52 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: of what it was, college tuition is double, and kids 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: are coming out of college making entry level jobs like 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: they're managing a taco bell. Right, So no wonder why 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: they're so bitter, Right, that's why they're supporting these democratic socialists. 56 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: What do you think? 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: I think it's heartbreaking. You know, look this dark reality 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: what you're describing, and I've got a nephew graduating in 59 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: college this month, and who's right there with everybody going 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: through this right now? It's you know, unemployment rates among 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: these grads have surged over five and a half percent 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: or higher this year. It's it's outpacing the national average 63 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: for the first time in decades. And it's really heartbreaking 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: because these young people, exactly like you said, they've invested 65 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: years and often massive debt chasing this knowledge work dream. 66 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: Right this you know that you can memorize frameworks and 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: master systems and climb these predictable ladders to stability. And frankly, 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: it's dangerous because it's compounding expectation gaps that are prevalent 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: throughout society. So I think this isn't just a conversation about, 70 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: you know, one generation not having it better than their parents. 71 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: It's about them no longer seeing a path to the 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: ownership of anything, never mind their features. 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, add six point eight percent this week's average 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 2: for a thirty year mortgage. You know, you're paying five 75 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: six thousand dollars a month for a house by the 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: time you've done with taxes and everything, especially in the Northeast, 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: they can't do it. 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: The American dream is fleeting. They don't see the. 79 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: Path, right, they don't see the path. And look today's society, 80 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: it's it isn't just broke, it's broken. You cannot have 81 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: a functioning society where people can't buy homes, where they 82 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: can't send their kids to school, they where they're starting 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: off life with massive debt. The average Gen Z kid 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: coming out of school right now has over ninety four 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: thousand dollars in debt. This is unsustainable. And you know, 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: in a system like ours, debt becomes this primary form 87 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: of wealth and it turns citizens into renters of their 88 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: own future. And I like to say it plays into 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: this futilization of everything that we're seeing across the board. 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had three kids at twenty three. 91 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: I mean I started really young, but you know, I 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: bought a house at twenty seven. You know, I have 93 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: one kid who was able to buy a house at 94 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: about thirty one. I've got two stuck paying five thousand 95 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: dollars a month rent in Manhattan, another one finishing her 96 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: last year of college, you know. 97 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: And you know that it's a it's definitely a predicament. 98 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: And I don't want to be all doom and gloom, 99 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: but these are serious issues. 100 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: One more doom and gloom. 101 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: Issue before we get to a cure. You know, we 102 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: need a cure here, right. But my son, who's in 103 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: the AI end of things, in an online portal job management, 104 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, for companies to you know, to do like 105 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: remote you know, project management, he says that AI is 106 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: going to eliminate seventy percent of entry level jobs. 107 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: I think that he's very possibly right, but I would 109 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: actually shift the narrative slightly. I think, you know, everyone 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: likes to likes to talk about AI coming for jobs. 111 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: But I think it's really more interesting and helps to 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: get us to that solution at least down the road, 113 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: if not for this limbo generation to really look at why. 114 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: And so I think if we look at AI, what 115 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: is AI really? It's not an angel, it's not a demon. 116 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: I think it's a mirror. And I think we got 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: to look at in the case of jobs, if we're 118 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: going to talk about jobs, what is AI reflecting back 119 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: to us? And I think it's two things, right. So 120 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: the first is going to be that our fusion of 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: education and skills training has led nowhere good. 122 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: Right. 123 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: Education is supposed to be about far more than just 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: job training. It's the intellectual foundation for who we are 125 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: as human beings. It's not preparation for life. It is 126 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: life and it doesn't end with the diploma. But today's 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: university is reward compliance over curiosity. And for decades we've 128 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: sold our grads on SWAT analysis and data dashboards, report 129 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: drafting all is the ticket to success. And we've sidelined 130 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 3: logic and first principles thinking in favor of these trendy 131 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: curricula that don't build independent minds. We've somehow convinced ourselves 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: that the goal is to make our kids fit for 133 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: the world, when really it should be ensuring their ability 134 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: to stand apart from it, especially when the world loses 135 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: its mind. And I think that brings us to the 136 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: second thing that AI is really exposed and is reflecting 137 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: back to us, and that's that what we call education 138 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: has evolved into skills training, and as we're seeing, it's 139 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: woefully inefficient at that. And that's where it leads to 140 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: this very strong possibility of what your son is talking about. 141 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: So it's AI is exposing these contradictions in our knowledge 142 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: economy myth right, where let's say we prioritize credentialism and 143 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: this procedural mastery over genuine intellectual agility. We train grads 144 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: to optimize with the boxes and not to redefine them 145 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: using the AI as a tool. And so if this 146 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: credential mill doesn't evolve, we're going to produce a generation 147 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: of AI babysitters instead of innovators, right, and that's going 148 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: to perpetuate the inequality that we were just talking about, 149 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: especially if you see that only the elite programs are adapting. 150 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: So I don't know, I think it's this popular narrative 151 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: today that unemployment stats show that AI is making college obsolete. 152 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: But I think it's really just exposing that college is 153 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: already obsolete. If a chat thought could do your job 154 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: on day one, that's some an AI problem, that's a 155 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: curriculum problem. And skills training requires, you know, getting tomorrow, 156 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: not just understanding today or yesterday. 157 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, I only have a ged right, so 158 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: I got about half of what you were saying, because 159 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: you're a lot smarter than me. No, but I all seriousness, 160 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: you know, and and I don't mean to depress our audience. 161 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: It's eight in the morning on a Saturday Eastern time. 162 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: You know, they're just drinking their coffee. The world's going 163 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: to end. But it's a it's an important discussion, and 164 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: I appreciate you shedding light. It sounds like you've really 165 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: got to grasp on something here that you know it 166 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: needs to be harnessed. 167 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: What do we do with it? 168 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: And then how do we create you know, maybe more 169 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: mid level management, upper management account you know, you know 170 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: management jobs, you know, which may be more lucrative than 171 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: entry level. Right, we have a minute, we have thirty 172 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: five seconds. Tell us your final thoughts. 173 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think we need to stop pretending the 174 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: college's formation. Let's let's build formation for its own sake. 175 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: But in the meantime, let's steer these young people who 176 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: are falling into this category into real work that they 177 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: can own and earn from today, layered in with AI 178 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: and with market fluency, so that they're not left behind tomorrow. 179 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: And I think we need to be honest about what 180 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: tomorrow looks like. 181 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: Wow, all right, so everyone to go out and get 182 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: your book why the world doesn't make sense? 183 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Reclaiming the liberty you didn't know you lost. 184 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: I'll give you twenty seconds on digital surveillance and the future. 185 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 186 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: Look, I think we're witnessing this increasing cutilization of everything. 187 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: If you think about it, we're all living on lease lands. 188 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: It's money, data, identity, not to mention, they're literally turning 189 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: us into a nation of renters. But this is something 190 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: that I think education can fix and we can retake 191 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: ownership of. And it's really just highly critical to understanding 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: the AI discussion that we're having right now and then 193 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: talk about the future. 194 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah Christ again, job, Yeah, well well now I just 195 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: we go but us it does. And John Locke is 196 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: spinning in his grave right now, so about private property rights. 197 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: But thank you so much. I'd love to have you back. 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: I would love that been great. 199 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: Thank you all right, everybody, we'll be back. 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Ran 230 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: into some reviewers down there in the middle of Manhattan, 231 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: which is good. Means we're breaking through. But I want 232 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: to welcome our guest with us right now, Tony Delgado. 233 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: He is the founder, the co founder of Latino Wall Street. Tony, 234 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: what's cooking? 235 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: How are you good? To see you? My friend? 236 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's great to finally meet you, even if 237 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: it's on camera. You know, Adam Weiss has you know, 238 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: been with me at a couple of events, and we 239 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: went to the General Flint event last week, and I 240 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: want to thank you for that invite that was exciting. 241 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: So I know you're active with SEAPACK and we were 242 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: down there for the Human Trafficking Summit. Incredible stuff, right, 243 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, SEABEK is doing really incredible work. 244 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 6: Combating human trafficking and combating communism all throughout Latin America 245 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: and all around the world. I mean, I think that's 246 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 6: one of the real inspirational things about Seabeck. And the 247 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 6: reason that we've gotten involved in decided to start the 248 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 6: Seabeck Latino movement was to because we were inspired by 249 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 6: this international coalition of leaders who were standing up against communism, 250 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 6: standing up against socialism, and trying to prevent that cancer 251 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 6: from spreading here in the US and around the world. 252 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know you were active in Florida at 253 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: the Latin you know Seapack. How did that go? 254 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 255 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was incredible. So at the SEAPAC Latino, my 256 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 6: organization Latino Wall Street partner with SEAPAC and we brought 257 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 6: Bolsonaro from Brazil, we bought Eduardo from Mexico and many 258 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 6: other leaders together to talk about the issues that are 259 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 6: facing our country. And you know, Latin America and the 260 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 6: United States, you know, we're really connected. Our economies are connected. 261 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 6: A lot of times, our politics are connected, our water 262 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 6: is connected. So again, I think that communism and socialism 263 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 6: and these really dangerous ideologies, they're like a cancer and 264 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 6: we have to stop them from spreading or we're going 265 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 6: to go down the pathway of Venezuela and Cuba and 266 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 6: a lot of other totalitarian regimes who have created more poverty, 267 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 6: created less freedom in their countries. And I think it's 268 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 6: a telltale of warning sign of what's to come if 269 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 6: we don't get our act together. 270 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the US always hasn't been the best actor 271 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: in South America, you know, in Chile and stuff. But 272 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: you know Chae Bovara and these other guys down there, 273 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: they I feel like they've held the South American and 274 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: Central American countries back from progress. 275 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, absolutely. 276 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 6: I mean, go to Miami and ask ask any Venezuela 277 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 6: and or Cuban American about how they feel about their 278 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: home country's politics, and they're going to tell you that 279 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 6: these ideologies are super, super dangerous. And that's why it's 280 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 6: really scary, as as a former New Yorker to see 281 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 6: what's happening in the mayor race in New York to 282 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 6: have a self proclaimed socialist running at the top of 283 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 6: the ticket. It is really really scary and dangerous to see. 284 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 6: We had that shooting this past week. I actually have 285 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 6: a really good friend of mine whose son works at 286 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: Blackrock and his son was barricade in a room with 287 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 6: some of the others and it was really really scary 288 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 6: and troublesome to see those things happening. 289 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that Wednesday night doing a Man on 290 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: the Street interviews. Everybody was impacted. People saw what was 291 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: going on, they heard the shots ring out. A guy's 292 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: wife was working in the building, just went on and on, 293 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: and that's you know, New York. 294 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Everybody knows somebody, everybody knows each other. In Midtown Manhattan. 295 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: You would think it would be generally. 296 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: Safe, and that that's been shattered, right, So, you know, 297 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: between our history of terrorism and the increased sexual assaults 298 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: in New York City and the felony and misdemeanor assaults 299 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: that are twenty plus year highs forty two thousand New 300 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: Yorkers assaulted in the streets so far this year, twenty 301 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: one point seven percent increase in rape year to date. 302 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: So murders and shootings are down. So this comes to 303 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: my next topic, Right, the mayor's race. You're supporting Mayor Adams. 304 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: Tell us why so. 305 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 6: Mayor Adams is the one of the only chances I 306 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 6: think we have for saving the city of New York. 307 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: Right. 308 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 6: I don't agree with him on every single policy. Right, 309 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 6: he's very against guns. Right, he's a Democrat who has 310 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 6: now turned independent. But I think on a lot of 311 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 6: issues he's had changes of hearts. I think on a 312 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 6: lot of issues he is on the right side of history. 313 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 6: I do think that New York is much better than 314 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 6: it was when he inherited it. 315 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: Right. 316 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 6: He inherited it in the middle of COVID, when you 317 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 6: still had lockdowns, you still had mandates. The city was 318 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 6: really not a safe place to be, super super dangerous. 319 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 6: And when you look at Eric adams history, he is 320 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 6: a native New Yorker, he is former NYPD, right, he 321 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 6: was a police officer for twenty plus years, and I 322 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 6: think he really does understand what the city needs. And 323 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 6: unfortunately we have this four way ticket where the votes 324 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 6: are now being split between a Republican which he might 325 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 6: as well be a third party candidate at this point. 326 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 6: You know, good guy, But again, I don't think he 327 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 6: has statistically a chance of winning. We have Cuomo, who 328 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 6: is the disgraced governor of New York who had to 329 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 6: resign in disgrace over sex scandals and various corruption allegations. 330 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 6: And then you have this socialist. You have this socialist 331 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 6: uh you know, pro Palestine, radical guy. And then you 332 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 6: have the existing mayor. Right, you have the existing mayor 333 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 6: of New York who has been making instrumental steps did 334 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 6: change a lot on policy. 335 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: Right. 336 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 6: He was a very pro immigration coming into his term, 337 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 6: as many Democrats are, but then he saw the negative impacts, right, 338 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 6: he saw how the city of being a well and 339 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 6: in the in the In the last year, he's now 340 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 6: started to work with Tom Holman, work with the new 341 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 6: administration and taking steps towards cleaning up the mess. 342 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: At the border. 343 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: Okay, I have a lot of questions for you. I'm 344 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 2: going to rapid fire because I love Curtis Sliwa and 345 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: I know that he's only eleven percent of the vote 346 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: as a Republican in New York City, and I understand 347 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: the dynamics. 348 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: For the reord But let me. 349 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 6: I have nothing against Curtis. Again, for the record, I 350 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 6: think he's a great man and he has an incredible history. 351 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 6: But go ahead and ask you a question. 352 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so listen, Adams pointed the Statue of Liberty and 353 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: invited the illegals to New York. How many people have 354 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: been killed, stabbed, or raped or robbed because of that policy? Now, 355 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: I think his stances have turned the corner because of 356 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: the pressure from Trump, and I think not getting prosecuted, 357 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: you know, So why does My question is why does 358 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: Mayor Adams deserve to be able to run after three 359 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: and a half years of bad policy and all of 360 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: a sudden he has a change of heart, you know, 361 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: And that's a problem for me. But my bigger problem 362 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: is that he's only polling at seven, nine and thirteen 363 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: percent and three of the last four so major polls. 364 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: Curtis out polling him, everyone else out polling him. So 365 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: how does he win? And I'll support Adams in the end. 366 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: I'm not a city voter, but my kids live there. 367 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: I'll support Adams if he's the last guy standing here. 368 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: But how does he win head to head with Mandami 369 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 2: in one poll showing he's at fifty percent? 370 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, so, I mean a lot of unpacked there first 371 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 6: and foremost, Yeah, thank you. Curtis has a great, No, 372 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 6: it's fine. I think Curtis has a great history and 373 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 6: service in the community in the city of New York. 374 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 6: I think he has a lot of good ideas. 375 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: But similar to Robert F. 376 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 6: Kennedy Junior, who ran in the presidential race against Trump, 377 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 6: what I would like to see is I would love 378 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 6: to see Curtis team up with Mayor Adams, who is 379 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 6: the sitting mayor at the moment, and become the safeties 380 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 6: are right. What if he came and was put in 381 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 6: charge of safety, good idea, in charge of keeping some 382 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 6: way safe and making the city a safer place. And 383 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 6: I think Eric Adams is a former police officer. He 384 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 6: understands being tough on crime. I think Curtis has a 385 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 6: very similar history of being tough on crime, and I 386 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 6: would love to see the two of them get together 387 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 6: and work to make the city a better place. Okay, 388 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 6: in a common sense, so alternative to the socialists. 389 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: Right, No, I and I agree with that concept. But 390 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: you know, Mayor Lindsay won in a three way race 391 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: and a plurality in nineteen sixty nine in a four 392 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: way race. This one poll that is probably a Mam 393 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: Donnie Pole, you know, says that even if all three 394 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: or four of the other candidates ganged up against him, 395 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: they still couldn't surpass the number that Mandannie's going to 396 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: get in the general election. But are we better off 397 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: in a four way race or a five way race 398 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: where the possibility Mendannie don't doesn't win in a plurality 399 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: then a head to head race with Adams or even Cuomo, 400 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: who you know it doesn't look like they can win 401 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: that way. What do you think. 402 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 6: I don't want to take the risk and the chances. 403 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 6: It's a New Yorker to have Mandanni a socialist, a radical, 404 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 6: someone who wants to give away property. Right. He's talked 405 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 6: about seizing landlord's buildings if he doesn't like to time 406 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 6: they're being managed. He's talked about having government run grocery stores. 407 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 6: We've seen how that's gone and gotten played out in 408 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 6: places like you and Venezuela, where the shelves are empty 409 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 6: and where you would put every bodega and every small 410 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: business out of business because you're competing with them giving 411 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 6: away food essentially for free and selling food at cost price. 412 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 6: I don't want to take the resk of Mandami getting 413 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 6: into power, and for that reason, I would be calling 414 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 6: for both Cuomo and Curtis to get behind Rick Adams 415 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 6: and again promise them seats in the administrations that we 416 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 6: can come together. I think they probably have got a 417 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 6: lot more issues than the disagree. 418 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be right about that, and let's see 419 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: how it's on folds. I think by September we'll know 420 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: a lot more. We have twenty seconds. Where can I 421 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: youwys follow you, Tony and get involved with Latina Wall 422 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: Street and other endeavors. 423 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, so follow me on Instagram at Tony Dolgato and 424 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 6: you can check us out on the web at Latinowstreet 425 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 6: dot com. 426 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for joining us, Tony, 427 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: and again I appreciate that invite in Washington with Adam 428 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: and we'll catch up. 429 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Thanks Dave, see you soon. All right, everybody will 430 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: be right back with more. Do not go away. 431 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: Your watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. 432 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm David Zer. 433 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: Follow me at Dave Zeer on X, David Zer on 434 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: Facebook and get Her and Truth Social, and David W. 435 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: Zer on Insta. Don't go anywhere coming up. 436 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: I've got great interviews with New Yorkers on the Street 437 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: who were there or had family members who work in 438 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 2: the building at three forty five Park with those, you know, 439 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: with that mass shooting occurred. So tragic New York City, 440 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: you know, under fire from all directions. So don't let 441 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: them lie to you when they say, you know, murders 442 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 2: and shootings are down. But you know, rape is up 443 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: sixty five percent this week. It's up twenty one point 444 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 2: seven percent for the year, according to the NYPD, and 445 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: forty two thousand New Yorkers have been victims of felony 446 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: or misdemeanor assault so far this year. And then they 447 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 2: got to deal with this, right, they've got to deal 448 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: with terrorism, all kinds of. 449 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: Stuff, you know. 450 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: But before we get to that, in the next segment, 451 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: I have with us, and I'm always really so grateful 452 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: to have Jonathan toe been the editor in chief of 453 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: JNS Newsweek. Columnist Senior contributed to The Federalist. Hello, mister Toobin, 454 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: how are you, sir. 455 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: Great to be with you, Thanks for having me on. 456 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I was in a desperate need for 457 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: some expertise here. You know, we're seeing images coming out 458 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: of Gaza, and you know, there's so many issues here 459 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 2: and I wanted to start off you know, wouldn't this 460 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: all change. 461 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: If the hostages were released? And are are they still alive? 462 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 7: Well, supposedly at least twenty of them are still alive. 463 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 7: Hamasa's you know, they're still about fifty unaccounted for. We 464 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 7: believe about twenty eight of them are dead. Twenty two 465 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 7: are believed to be still alive. And of course the 466 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 7: war would have ended at any point since oct w seventh, 467 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 7: if all the hostages would have been released, that would 468 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 7: have been you know, probably enough for Israel. But of 469 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 7: course Hamas has no intention of releasing all of the hostages. 470 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 7: They're going to hold on to as many of them 471 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 7: and as many of the bodies that they ghoulishly hold 472 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 7: on to for ransom, because that's their lifeline. And you 473 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 7: know what we have to understand about what's going on now. 474 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 7: We're deluged by these images of starvation and sick children 475 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 7: on the front page of the New York Times, even 476 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 7: when those images are then proven to be fraudulent, as 477 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 7: with that famous picture of that skeletal, poor you know 478 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 7: kid that was on the front page of the New 479 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 7: York Times last week, And of course it turns out 480 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 7: someone it turns out a kid who had a terrible 481 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 7: genetic condition wasn't starving, you know, everybody else in the 482 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 7: picture was fine, and he actually received treatment in Israel. 483 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 4: Now he's in Italy. 484 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 7: But that's you know, talk about New York Times misinformation. 485 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 7: People who only read the New York Times, which used 486 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 7: to be, you know, the preeminent source for news in 487 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 7: our country. 488 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: They're the most misinformed people you know in our cut 489 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 4: right well. 490 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 7: About history, yeah, and with the history of anti Semitism, 491 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 7: anti Israel bias. But what we have to understand that 492 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 7: to the extent that there is a food shortage in Gaza. 493 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: And apparently there is, and apparently. 494 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 7: Some people, you know, a lot, there is a lot 495 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 7: of suffering in Gaza, it is orchestrated by Hamas. 496 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: There has never really been a food shortage there. 497 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 7: Israel has in spite of the fact that there's been 498 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 7: a war going on for twenty two months, Israel has 499 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 7: always let food in, right, you know, in the last 500 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 7: weeks it's been flooding Gaza with food. The problem is 501 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 7: that at first the main source of food the humanitarian 502 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 7: assistance was the UN and they were in the pockets 503 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 7: of Hamas. Hamas steals the food Hamas hoards it for 504 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 7: its cadres, sells it back to ordinary Palestinians that exorbit 505 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 7: in prices. Because there's some economists to point out the 506 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 7: real problem is not a shortage of food, it's the 507 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 7: of food in Gaza, and that's why they're suffering. Just 508 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 7: as the whole thing, all the suffering Gaza is the 509 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 7: fault of Hamas. 510 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 4: Because they started this show. They refuse to give it up. 511 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 4: They refuse to see they refuse. 512 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 7: To lay down their arms and surrender, and they refuse 513 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 7: to give up the hostages. And they've also been seeking 514 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 7: to sabotage the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which was founded by 515 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 7: the Trump administration and Israel in order to bypass the 516 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 7: uent so food could go to ordinary people and ordinary 517 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 7: Palestinians in Gaza, and Hamas has been doing everything they 518 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 7: can to obstruct it to ensure that that food doesn't 519 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 7: get to to ordinary Palestinians. So all this tsunami of 520 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 7: propaganda and causing so many Americans, so many people around 521 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 7: the world for European governments to condemn Israel. This is 522 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 7: they're playing right into Hamasa's hands. They started the war, 523 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 7: they started this famine, and they orchestrated it, and anyone 524 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 7: who pressures is well this next point, the war is 525 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 7: playing into Hamas's hands. 526 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: Sure, and and to and and this goes segues to 527 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: you know, France and a country's calling for a Palestinian state. 528 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: Doesn't that create a perilous situation for the future of 529 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: the whole region where Hamas will get rewarded for killing 530 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: all those people on October seventh and putting babies in ovens, right, Uh, 531 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: they get rewarded with a Palestinian state because they won't 532 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: give back the hostages. Doesn't that's had a terrible message 533 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: anytime they want to do something, they're going to repeat 534 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: the same event we have about three minutes. 535 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, of course it's a reward to Hamas 536 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 7: and then the Belsgarians that support them. It's exactly the 537 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 7: wrong message descended them when they should be being told 538 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 7: stop the war and then you could we can talk 539 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 7: about peace, get rid of terrorism, get rid of Hamas. 540 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 7: But you know, this plays into the entire you know, 541 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 7: Palestinians are thought to have no agency. You know, nobody 542 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 7: gives them credit for making any decisions about themselves or 543 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 7: or their own fate, and instead it's all put on Israel. 544 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 7: But let's also understand something fundamental about this. Talk about 545 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 7: a Palestinian state. October seventh happened because there was a 546 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 7: Palestinian state in Gaza, an independent Palestinian state in all 547 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 7: but name, ruled by Hamas from two thousand and seven 548 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 7: to twenty twenty three. Israel withdrew every settlers, soldier, and 549 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 7: settlement from Gaza in two thousand and five, it was 550 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 7: taken over by Hamas in two thousand and seven they 551 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 7: ruled it. That's what happens when you give the Palestinians 552 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 7: an independent state, it becomes a terror base. You know, 553 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 7: they could have turned it, as Trump has said, they 554 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 7: could have turned it into Singapore or Dubai. Instead, they 555 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 7: built the equivalent of the New York City subway system 556 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 7: underneath it to store weapons and to make get a 557 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 7: fortress and to serve as a base for attacking Israel. 558 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 7: They have no interest in peace. Their only interest is 559 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 7: in it in a war, a genocidal war to destroy 560 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 7: Israel and the genocide of the Jewish people. That's what's 561 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 7: at stake here, and everybody, whether they're European governments, recklessly 562 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 7: playing to their own Islamist and Marxist. You know, voters 563 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 7: or even American Jews here in the United States who 564 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 7: are criticizing Israel, they're playing into Hamas's hands. 565 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: It's despicable. Yeah, it is, Jonathan. 566 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: So is there any chance in one minute, tell us 567 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: any chance Trump gets a Nobel Peace Prize like Obama did, 568 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: who didn't do anything to deserve it. 569 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: It's kind of a straight line. 570 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: Well Trump, Let's say Trump deserves he deserved a Nobel 571 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 7: Peace Prize for what he did in twenty twenty with 572 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 7: the Abraham Accords. He deserved it, and he deserves it 573 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 7: for his efforts to spread peace. Even now he has 574 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 7: you know, you and I have that as much chance 575 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 7: of winning the Nobel Peace Prize as President Trump, which 576 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 7: just shows the Nobel you know, they'll never give it 577 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 7: to him for the same reason they gave it to 578 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 7: Obama for doing nothing. 579 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: It's it's a joke. Nobody should care about it. 580 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 7: You know, Prime Minister Natina who nominated President Trump for the. 581 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: Nobel Peace Prize. 582 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 7: It's a nice gesture of friendship, but it you know, 583 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 7: let's let's be honest. This is not something that serious 584 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 7: people should worry about, right. 585 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: Televiewers where they can follow all of your great stuff. 586 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: And you know where can they follow you on socials? 587 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 7: Well, go to JNS dot org. We have you can 588 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 7: sign up for twice a day newsletters. 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We have many podcasts, including 594 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 7: my own Think Twice which is a weekly interview program, 595 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 7: like Daily Jonathan Tobin Daily, which is an audio only program. 596 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 7: On all the podcast platforms, look for JNS Jonathan Tobin 597 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 7: lots of content. 598 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: All right, I really appreciate your insight as usual and 599 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: I will have you back. 600 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, thank you. All right, Hi, everybody, 601 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: well be back. 602 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: I want to bring you a message from Switch to USA, 603 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: Switch the Number two USA. 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You know, the 653 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 2: events in New York City were so heartbreaking this past week, 654 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: with an off duty cop getting killed, a twenty seven 655 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: year old you know, and another forty three year old 656 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: from Blackstone and another security guard killed. 657 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: Very very sad stuff. 658 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: But the New York population is resilient and I spent 659 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: time on the street talking with them, people who were there, 660 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: people who heard the gunshots, people whose family worked in 661 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: the building and may have left fifteen or an hour before. 662 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: You know, so really really moving stuff. Check out these 663 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 2: interviews with the great people of New York. 664 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: You work him in hand. 665 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: I do right up the blocking. You know, anybody worked 666 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 2: at three forty five part? 667 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: My wife really, yes, was she in the building at 668 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: the time. 669 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: We were very lucky we left about an hour before 670 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: everything happened. 671 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: God, wow, still shaking out, that's extraordinary. 672 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 10: So I was talking with somebody and all of a 673 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 10: sudden I heard bang, bang, bang, And then I said 674 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 10: to myself, oh, is this a firecracker over? And then 675 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 10: I saw the police chasing down. 676 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: Do you see him walk across the plaza with the 677 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 2: right I didn't that, I didn't. 678 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, so you heard the shots and then you went. 679 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 10: Shots and the police in that part I heard around 680 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 10: six thirty seven thirty five, around around that time. 681 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: Wow. 682 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, I did not see him go. But when I 683 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 10: saw in the television, I was very puzzled. I mean 684 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 10: he was able to just walk in carrying it without 685 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 10: anybody seeing and saying anything. 686 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: It's a similar layout to many office buildings. 687 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 10: And yes, yes, because I've been through other other places. 688 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 10: In fact, my son worked over there and I have 689 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 10: to go in and I have to give a lot 690 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 10: of tell him to come down. 691 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to bother to go in. There's too 692 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: much security. Just come down and. 693 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: Know how long have you been in New York City 694 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: since I was a little girl. Did you care to 695 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 2: share any thoughts on the shooting yesterday in the building. 696 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: It's very crazy. You know, where are you from? What 697 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: part of the city. 698 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 9: I'm from Westchester? 699 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 8: Okay, do you commute, Yeah, it's only thirty minutes. 700 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from the West coast. 701 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, from the West coast. 702 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: You would never think of something like this going for 703 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: that especially no, never working in office building. 704 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I worked just right there own Park Avenue. 705 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: So you know, it's very like I was scared, you know, 706 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: very scary for me. When did you hear about it? 707 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: When did you learn about what happened? Maybe about I 708 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: don't know. We heard a lot of sirens, it was 709 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: like a lot going on. I was in the city. Yeah, 710 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: so I heard the respect was massive, right, that's crazy. 711 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: It was really crazy. 712 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 6: Wow. 713 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 9: So I'm glad everything's on the control. 714 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 7: You know. 715 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: Do you know anybody works in this building. 716 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 9: No, not at the moment. 717 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you for sharing. What's your first name? 718 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: My name is Jenney, Hi Janey. How are you all right? 719 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: Stay safe out there? I want one more question. How 720 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: do you feel about going around New York City in general? 721 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: Do you feel safe on the subways? Do you avoid 722 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: certain times? What do you think? 723 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: No, I feel safe. 724 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: I think you know it's New York. 725 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 9: Everywhere is crazy. 726 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: So you just have the pit head on a swivel, 727 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 2: head on a smibvele. 728 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: Stay away from the gap. Stay away from the gap, 729 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: all right, and keep that head on the swivel. All right, 730 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: all right? Thanks today. 731 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: So we're outside here at three forty five Park Avenue. 732 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: Yesterday's events were just incredible. 733 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 2: We have a RAV viewer here and RAF fan Neil 734 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 2: bagoshin from Rhode Island. 735 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: How are you, sir? Very good? Thank you? Oh my god. 736 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: So this is awful, right, excellent tragedy. 737 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 2: They just put boards up in front of the bullet 738 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 2: holes and the doors today. 739 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: Were you in the area yesterday? 740 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: I walked through here forty five minutes before it happened, 741 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 2: and then I drove through here in a cab fifteen 742 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: minutes after it happened, and I. 743 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: Witnessed the response. 744 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: And I was here in nineteen ninety three during the 745 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: first Wild Trade Center bombing. The response to this was 746 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: larger than that. They were coming from all over the place. Wow, yeah, wow, 747 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: especially with an officer down at SWAT came in right. 748 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: Just incredible. 749 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 2: You don't expect this type of crime in New York 750 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 2: City right now. Tourism, you've got subway crime, you've got homelessness, 751 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 2: rapes are up twenty percent. But this is a little 752 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: bit unique, right absolutely, And for him to do this 753 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: in broad daylight, with that kind of walked right around 754 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 2: the plastic he parked right over here, walked a block 755 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 2: and a half I think, with. 756 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: His rifle and walked right in right. 757 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think I think one of the key 758 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 2: things that I would I would hope they would start 759 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 2: to focus more on lots of these mass shooters. There 760 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 2: are pharmaceuticals involved. They don't consider the side effects of 761 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 2: those pharmaceuticals, the psychosomatic effects, And. 762 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: There have been public figures that have raised that question. 763 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,959 Speaker 2: I question it all the time, and I think psychotrophic 764 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: drugs companies absolutely. 765 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: Could be This is still open. We'll have to see 766 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: it's what the real motives were, you know. 767 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 2: And and if he had a traumatic brain injury and 768 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: he didn't play in the NFL, why is he so 769 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: mad at the NFL? So, I mean, there's so many things, right, 770 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: but he did leave a note right talking about I 771 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: think it was Terry Long's death who drank Andy Freeze 772 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 2: and committed suicide back in the day because of the CTEs, right, right, absolutely, 773 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: how long you've been watching Real America's Voice years years now? 774 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: That several years? 775 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, probibly going back to their inception. Actually, what do 776 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: you like the most about it? 777 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: It's all good. 778 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: It's actually raw news, it's refreshing news, it's honest news. 779 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: So it's a break from the mainstream, which I've come 780 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: to despise. And we're in touch with the people, right absolutely, 781 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: And I thank you for everything you do. 782 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It means a lot. Neil, everybody Neil 783 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: but goes in for Roadeian. What are you doing in 784 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: New York? Here for treatment? Actually here for health health treatments? Okay, 785 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: god speed with that? Thank you. 786 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: Can I get some Rhode Island stuff for you? So 787 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a car, absolutely, So come up there. 788 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: Can you tell me where to go? Let's tell you 789 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: will Dell's lemonade too, Let's do it. 790 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 2: Come in, don't threaten me with a good time, but 791 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: you know, uh listen. Our prayers go out to the 792 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: families and the victims here in park right in Midtown Manhattan, 793 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 2: iconic Midtown Manhattan Park Avenue. And my sympathies to all 794 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 2: of the fellow officers will lost someone in. 795 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: The land of duty. It's absolutely awful. So I guess 796 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: New Yorkers have to press on. We got to tighten 797 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 1: our security. 798 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: A lot office buildings with the same setup inside, right, absolutely, 799 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: and you know this also highlights I forgot the guy's name, Mendami, Yeah, 800 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,959 Speaker 2: running from mayor. Yeah, well he wants to he wants 801 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: to defund police, you know that's the rumor. Well he does, 802 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: and he wants you to throw soda at your attacker 803 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 2: and call the police. Right right, Everybody better learn taekwondo, 804 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, no, for sure, And it's you know, 805 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: it's not even a joke, right, that's these people. 806 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: It's like fend for yourself, right, And. 807 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: This is New York City, It's one of the busiest 808 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: cities in the world. 809 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: And you need police here. Yeah, crime stats are up. 810 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: They talk about murders and shootings down, but rape is 811 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: up sixty five. 812 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: Percent this week. 813 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew that in New York 814 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 2: City twenty one point seven percent for the year according 815 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: to CompStat two point zero. Yeah, that's awful, you know, 816 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: so they got to clean it up. Absolutely. 817 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: What do you want for mayor in New York City? 818 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 2: That's a good question just between Eric Adams and whoever else. 819 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: Is running against anybody but men domin You got it. 820 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: We meet people from all walks of life in New 821 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: York City. 822 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 2: We're here where the mass shooting happened for three p 823 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: forty five Park Avenue yesterday. A lot of people, you know, 824 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: witness the chaos going on. What's your name, Sir Ron, 825 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: nac l E r Io Ron. You're the most winningest 826 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: high school coach in New York City history. 827 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 11: Well I have to add to that, I'm the winning 828 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 11: is basketball coach in New York City student that includes 829 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 11: NBA and college. 830 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: Wow, that's unbelievable to be one hundred percent correct. 831 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 11: Jack Current as nineteen seventy two may rest in piece 832 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 11: at Malloy. 833 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: I have nine sixty one, but I'll beat him this year. 834 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: Where is Cardozo? Bayside, Queens Stay Side. I've been blessed 835 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: a great area, great area, great school. You know, it's an. 836 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: Ethnic area, a lot of first, second generation, third generation people, right. 837 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 838 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 11: It's a mixed school, high academic standards. We've had people 839 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 11: do well in basketball, NBA plays, and politics and business doctors. 840 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: You know, were you in the area yesterday. 841 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 11: When this sho I was actually driving up to Halem 842 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 11: to play in the smart Ball Classic, the best high 843 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 11: school tournament in. 844 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: New York City. 845 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 11: And when I was driving, the alerts went off in 846 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 11: my phone and when I saw police officer shot, it 847 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 11: said because I've had a lot of police officers play 848 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 11: for me. I had one that became the chief of 849 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 11: police the Suffolk County Police Commission. He actually was the 850 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 11: person that caught the gilgl killed up in Loo. 851 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: But you know, I have a big. 852 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 11: Thing for law enforcement, and you know, I've been unfortunate 853 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 11: in the last five years. 854 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: I've had two players shot and. 855 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 11: Killed a fourteen year old in a park, and I've 856 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 11: had two parents shot and killed. 857 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 2: What's the tenor of New York these days? The people 858 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 2: feel safe. 859 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 11: I mean people will fake the statistics because you can 860 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 11: make statistics where a two hundred hitter looks like he 861 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 11: deserves to be in the Baseball Hall of Fame. The 862 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 11: good people, the good people in New York have to 863 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 11: great grab the city back. And you know, I'm not 864 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 11: into politics. I'm into people, but the politicians better stop. 865 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 2: You know, we have any thoughts about the mayors race. 866 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: Who would you prefer? 867 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 11: I know, Eric Adams, I think he has to be 868 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 11: even tougher. I think Curtis Leewer might deserve a chance. 869 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 11: You know, But Mandani, I mean just when you talk. 870 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,959 Speaker 11: I mean I see kids talk about what I'm gonna 871 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 11: do to you, I'm gonna do to you, and then 872 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 11: the next day it becomes a fight, it becomes a 873 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 11: fist fight. 874 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: And it escalates. 875 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 11: Well, if he's going to really defund the police, I mean, 876 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 11: he's going to increase the insanity. 877 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 2: Well, you know there's legislation in New York where I 878 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 2: like the police get docksed that you know, they want 879 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 2: ice officers to take off their mass and reveal their identities. 880 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things. The Bail Reform of twenty 881 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 2: nineteen that Cuoma put in. There's a lot of things 882 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: that make the cops job tougher in. 883 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: New York right now. 884 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, one of my assistant coaches just retired. He 885 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 11: was a police policeman, and he said this to me. 886 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 11: He goes, Ron, if the bullet comes out of the 887 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 11: purpse gun before it comes out of my gun. My 888 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 11: wife is a widow and my four children don't. 889 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 1: Have a father. 890 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 11: So it's very, very hard to anticipate somebody reaching in 891 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 11: and pull in or you don't know what they're doing 892 00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 11: so until you walk in their steps, Yeah, don't. 893 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: Do you know anybody who works in this building? 894 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: Oh? 895 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 11: Well, I know a lot of people in the NFL, 896 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 11: you know, so you know, I know people that do 897 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 11: NFL films. 898 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: Looks like that might have been as ultimate target but 899 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: went the wrong way. Maybe right. 900 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 11: You know what? The same thing is that society has 901 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 11: gotten to the point where what we saw yesterday used 902 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 11: to happen once every ten years. 903 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: Now it seems like it happens once every ten minutes. 904 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 11: Why when people show you who they are, Yeah, do 905 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 11: we have to give them another chance and another chance? 906 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 11: If they show you their murderers, they show you their criminals. 907 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 11: I got two words for them and are not happy birthday, 908 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 11: and they're victims. 909 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 1: I can't come back. 910 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: Amazing resilient people in New York through terrorism, Subway crime, 911 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 2: rapes are of twenty percent, sixty five percent just last week. 912 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 1: Rapes are up in New York City. 913 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 2: It's out of control still, so don't believe they crime 914 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 2: numbers even though murders and shootings are down in New York. 915 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 2: But the great people in New York will get through it. 916 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,760 Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll have some new leadership at some point. 917 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for watching Breaking Point. That's all we have 918 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: for today. 919 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 7: I see you next time and