Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with growthsl and Gavin to
Speaker 1: grab and I hear radio podcast. Welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of How Men Think. My name is Brooks Like and
Speaker 1: this is the most unique episode we've ever done. I'm
Speaker 1: currently doing this from my home office here in Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1: So I've got no Gavin with me. I've got no
Speaker 1: Rick with me, I've got no Dmitri, I've got no Ryan.
Speaker 1: But we do have a very special guest with us today,
Speaker 1: somebody that's going to help you, guys, cope with the
Speaker 1: current situation of coronavirus coronavirus which we're all dealing with
Speaker 1: in this unique time. And we'll get to him in
Speaker 1: a second, but right now, I hope you are at
Speaker 1: home practicing your social distancing. I am here in our
Speaker 1: house in l a uh and the purpose of this
Speaker 1: show is we want to help ease this easier anxiety,
Speaker 1: easier stress, help improve the quality of your life during
Speaker 1: this once in a lifetime almost time that we're currently in.
Speaker 1: So we have if we're all going through these mental issues.
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of economic issues and stress
Speaker 1: there as well, but there's a lot mentally that's going
Speaker 1: on with us right now. That's carrying weight for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. You have parents at home, you have
Speaker 1: kids at home, you have to cook, clean and and
Speaker 1: provide schooling, all these kinds of things. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot going on. There's a big discussion about people are
Speaker 1: very stressed out and very anxious in this time, and
Speaker 1: so we thought what better way to tackle that problem
Speaker 1: than to bring on a specialist, someone who deals and
Speaker 1: has dealt with the most uncertain of uncertain and stressful times,
Speaker 1: a former US Navy seal. And I want to welcome
Speaker 1: him to the show, Mr Pat the set. Pat, how
Speaker 1: are you, my friend doing? Doing great? Brother? Thank you Brooks.
Speaker 1: It's it's great to be here, excited to kind of
Speaker 1: talk to your audience, and I know it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1: We are really at a very kind of um stressful
Speaker 1: and a certain time I think for most of us
Speaker 1: on a global skin ailed this type of stress that's
Speaker 1: a little bit unbounded. We don't know how long it's
Speaker 1: gonna go on for. This is gonna be something that
Speaker 1: we're dealing for me, you know, for the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, for the next couple of months, or if
Speaker 1: this is going to be something that is going to
Speaker 1: fundamentally change how we interact with one another and how
Speaker 1: we go about our lives UH for the next several
Speaker 1: years or potentially and definitely, UM, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: unique time and so UM it's it's it's really nice
Speaker 1: to be here to be able to talk with UH
Speaker 1: with your audience about some early some of the principles
Speaker 1: and lessons learned that I took from my time in
Speaker 1: the team's UM and I think it's something that you know,
Speaker 1: most team guys would say, Hey, this is these are
Speaker 1: tried true principles that we leverage both in training and
Speaker 1: in operations overseas. So I'm just really excited to be
Speaker 1: here and kind of talk a little bit about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I love that, And I'm a team guy. To
Speaker 1: being a professional hockey player, it was all about team
Speaker 1: and you guys take team to another level. And so
Speaker 1: I'm I first and foremost want to thank you for
Speaker 1: your service. I am a huge fan of every single
Speaker 1: service men and woman UM, and especially the cream of
Speaker 1: the Cross, the U. S. Navy Seals. I just I
Speaker 1: am over here just fan boying over you. Man. I
Speaker 1: wish I could shake your hand. I wish I would
Speaker 1: love to do this again sometime when I can actually
Speaker 1: meet meet you. We're doing this phone call over Skype
Speaker 1: right now. Um But one thing that I do know
Speaker 1: about being on a team is fundamentals are so important.
Speaker 1: They set the foundation for success. And so what I
Speaker 1: want is to dive into your story and as a U. S.
Speaker 1: Navy Seal, you deal with circumstances. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say that you deal I'll let you speak to
Speaker 1: it more. But you deal with the unpredictable circumstances as
Speaker 1: much as maybe anybody in the world. That's what you
Speaker 1: guys trained for. And so the world, everybody listening to
Speaker 1: this right now, is in an unpredictable circumstance of coronavirus.
Speaker 1: And I would love for you to sort of make
Speaker 1: this simple for our audience to lay a foundational layer
Speaker 1: of some things that we can do in our lives
Speaker 1: that can help us regain control and improve the quality
Speaker 1: of our lives. Um. So, as a as a Navy seal,
Speaker 1: what are some of the things that you want to
Speaker 1: direct our audience towards that are just gonna the low
Speaker 1: hanging fruit that are going to benefit them right out
Speaker 1: of the gate, right now, Yeah, I think it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's a great question, and I love the fact
Speaker 1: that you brought up and you stressed the point of
Speaker 1: being on a team, that you're a team guy. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it gets lost in a little bit
Speaker 1: of a mythic narrative about about seals that, um, you know,
Speaker 1: whether you're watching movies in Hollywood or you're you're reading
Speaker 1: books that guys are written that, um, a lot of
Speaker 1: times the individuals get elevated. But I would say that,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the defining characteristics of being a
Speaker 1: seal is that, uh, it's team first. And it's always
Speaker 1: team first, whether we're on an operation, whether we're training,
Speaker 1: everything is is framed around the team so much so
Speaker 1: that when we talk about you know, when you hear
Speaker 1: a seal talk about another sea all you don't say
Speaker 1: that guy is really bigger, is really stronger, is a
Speaker 1: really great shot. You if someone is vouching for another seal,
Speaker 1: they say that he's a good team guy. And that
Speaker 1: is what are our community is all about. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we try to espouse and really live this
Speaker 1: this mindset and this ethos of being quiet professionals. And
Speaker 1: you elevate the team over the self. And I think
Speaker 1: it's it's an important thing to focus on now because
Speaker 1: one of the things that we rely on, and I
Speaker 1: think that individuals that are listening to this can rely on,
Speaker 1: is really under times of stress, um, when you feel
Speaker 1: especially now with social distancing and being isolated, when you
Speaker 1: feel that you are really um taking an undo load,
Speaker 1: or you're or you're having to endure something that um
Speaker 1: just as you stuck in your own kind of world
Speaker 1: and you're not able to break out of it. What
Speaker 1: we do is we focus on other people, right, And
Speaker 1: so when the when the pain and the suffering, when
Speaker 1: the misery reaches an extreme, or when the ambiguity reaches
Speaker 1: a place where we find ourselves uncomfortable, hard default is
Speaker 1: to focus on other people in the team. How can
Speaker 1: I serve their needs? How can I lift them up?
Speaker 1: Because by doing so, it not only gets me out
Speaker 1: of my head, it makes that person better and in
Speaker 1: turn they reflect that back onto me. And so, um,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. You know, one of and I'm sure your
Speaker 1: listeners all are all familiar with kind of seal training,
Speaker 1: and the first part of seal training really is is
Speaker 1: this program called Buds Basic Underwater Demolition School SO BUDS
Speaker 1: is approximately about seven months long UM, and around the
Speaker 1: seventh or eight week of BUDS you go through this
Speaker 1: you go through this week known as Hell Week, and
Speaker 1: so Hell Week, Uh, it's really kind of a crucible,
Speaker 1: defining event for this first part of seal training, and
Speaker 1: it's where we we lose most of the people that
Speaker 1: have decided, hey, they want to be seals and they
Speaker 1: want to commit to this training program. The training program,
Speaker 1: by the way, it's a volunteer program, so you may
Speaker 1: start with two people that start in a class. My
Speaker 1: particular class, we went into how week with around a
Speaker 1: d it in fifty people of the two twenty that
Speaker 1: started training, and then out of how Week we came
Speaker 1: we came out of Hell Week with thirty six UM.
Speaker 1: And Hell Week is you're you're awake, you're cold, you're wet,
Speaker 1: you're running everywhere with log carrying telephone poles, you've got
Speaker 1: a boat on your head. Uh. You don't sleep really
Speaker 1: for about five and a half days. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of hours of sleep that you get on the third
Speaker 1: of the fourth day, but it's broken up in the
Speaker 1: kind of thirty minute chunks and it's it's less about
Speaker 1: giving you an opportunity to recover. It's more about inducing stress,
Speaker 1: and it's more about inducing stress around waking you up
Speaker 1: and putting you back in the ocean. Um. But one
Speaker 1: thing that you know, I think it's interesting and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of relevant here to this this kind
Speaker 1: of principle of focusing on others, is that one of
Speaker 1: the worst places to be during how week is running
Speaker 1: with this carrying this boat on your head. So you're
Speaker 1: broken up and the boat cruise of six people, um,
Speaker 1: and you run everywhere with this rubber boat on your head,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, the boat is probably a hundred
Speaker 1: hundred pounds, but sometimes it gets filled with sand or
Speaker 1: water and so it increases gets heavier as you go
Speaker 1: through the week. Um. But depending upon where you're out
Speaker 1: in the boat, if you're up front the it's it's
Speaker 1: not the number one position. It's really really stressful. You're
Speaker 1: taking a really a very big load and it's hard
Speaker 1: on your neck, it's hard on your head. The boat's
Speaker 1: bouncing around like a jackhammer. Here in the back of
Speaker 1: the boat, it's a little bit easier and um. But
Speaker 1: one of the things that that we that we focus
Speaker 1: on is when you're in the boat crew, it's really
Speaker 1: being mindful of how everyone is doing under the boat
Speaker 1: amidst the chaos and this boat bouncing and kind of
Speaker 1: racing from evolution evolution, How are people doing? How can
Speaker 1: I rotate? How can I take a strain when someone
Speaker 1: else may not be able to take a strain, And
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of that effect of being under
Speaker 1: the boat and that kind of pressure. It's not unlike
Speaker 1: what we're seeing with coronavirus today. Right, We're all in
Speaker 1: a stressful environment. We're all taking you know, loads, whether
Speaker 1: you know me personally, I'm working from home these days.
Speaker 1: I've got nine month old twins, my my wife is
Speaker 1: at home, or nanny who comes a few days a
Speaker 1: week is being quarantine because she was exposed. And so
Speaker 1: we're really kind of our small apartment gets smaller by
Speaker 1: the day. We're all in the thick of this. Other
Speaker 1: people are experiencing similar situations um and the stress can
Speaker 1: put you in a place where you can start truly
Speaker 1: focusing on your own suffering, your own misery, and your
Speaker 1: own circumstance. And the best way to get out of
Speaker 1: that is really to be in action and in service
Speaker 1: to others. So can you can you do something for
Speaker 1: a neighbor, can you reach out to someone uh and
Speaker 1: and do a favor over the phone, or can you
Speaker 1: find small ways to get into action and get into
Speaker 1: service of others? For me personally, and I think most
Speaker 1: people that go through seal training would a test to
Speaker 1: the same fact that it's always easier if you're focused
Speaker 1: on others. So, um that that's kind of one thing
Speaker 1: that we lead onto it. I'll pause for if you
Speaker 1: have any questions or thought on that. Yeah, A man,
Speaker 1: I love it, um one. I just admire team people.
Speaker 1: I just I think the the collective purpose of the
Speaker 1: group is and just being part of something greater than
Speaker 1: yourself is so powerful. And so I love what you've
Speaker 1: that whole thing of what you said right there. And
Speaker 1: I also love how you said can I take a strain?
Speaker 1: Can I? I'm thinking about applying this to people at
Speaker 1: home right now, Like, say somebody is lifting a load
Speaker 1: that's really heavy at home. Maybe one parent is like
Speaker 1: schooling the kids and has been for the two weeks
Speaker 1: they've been at home, Like can the other parents suband
Speaker 1: or do you create something where um, like you said,
Speaker 1: the rotation under the boat where somebody carries the heavier
Speaker 1: load at the front and then has to rotate to
Speaker 1: the back enlighten the load. UM. I want people at
Speaker 1: this time to think creatively also on how they can
Speaker 1: help and how they can serve. So just because just
Speaker 1: it's eerie. Man. Then the other day, Pat, I went
Speaker 1: to the grocery store, and it's just an eerie feeling
Speaker 1: of like people wanting for themselves and they've now had
Speaker 1: to implement UM rules at grocery stores. You can only
Speaker 1: get two eggs, you can only get two milks, this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Um, there's a really eerie feeling that
Speaker 1: they got a people just wanting for themselves and have
Speaker 1: tried to encourage people and still digitally on my platform
Speaker 1: and using this podcast, there's still ways that you can
Speaker 1: help and impact and serve people. UM, people within your
Speaker 1: own home, but still outside of that, and I just
Speaker 1: love I just want to dive more into that team,
Speaker 1: that team and ship, that partnership, UM, and how maybe
Speaker 1: couples at home, maybe a husband and wife, how they
Speaker 1: can sort of rotate in and out of duties or
Speaker 1: anything like that that you can give to our audience. UM,
Speaker 1: to help make the burden at home lighter and actually
Speaker 1: more enjoyable. Yeah, I love that you're you're talking about
Speaker 1: being in the in the grocery store and kind of
Speaker 1: experiencing that. I live in Los Angeles as well, and
Speaker 1: I've noticed it over the last couple of weeks. Um,
Speaker 1: you go, if it's you know, you going to the
Speaker 1: farmer's market, or you're in a grocery store, you're even
Speaker 1: you're just out walking, there's this heightened sense of anxiety
Speaker 1: and stress. You can just it's it's palpable, and I
Speaker 1: think it speaks to the fact that people, most people
Speaker 1: aren't used to being in a test of this nature. Right. Typically,
Speaker 1: when we take a test, um, it's bounded. We know, okay,
Speaker 1: these are this is what I'm going to be measured against.
Speaker 1: This is how I perform on this test. I've prepared
Speaker 1: for it, and it's an hour long, or it's over
Speaker 1: the course of a game over, it's over the course
Speaker 1: of this particular business meeting. We're used to these bounded
Speaker 1: kind of testing experiences, but it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: an unnerving circumstance for people to be in a situation
Speaker 1: where there's so much ambiguity and and you don't really
Speaker 1: have a sense of like, wow, how can I control this?
Speaker 1: And so people default to well, you know, almost like
Speaker 1: this primal nature of where, all right, I've got to
Speaker 1: get grab everything I can, even if that means I
Speaker 1: bring home. If you roll with the toilet paper, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't eat toilet paper, but it's the
Speaker 1: thing that I can do. So I'm gonna grab much
Speaker 1: of toilet paper where I'm gonna you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: funny to see. It's not funny, it's it's interesting to
Speaker 1: see people react to stress in different ways, right because
Speaker 1: the stress that I felt under the boat or overseas
Speaker 1: physiologically is no different than the stress people are feeling now,
Speaker 1: um stuck at home rate, you know, homeschooling kids, trying
Speaker 1: to trade off duties support their spouse. It's no different
Speaker 1: than you know, people in the grocery store that feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to gather everything I can so that I
Speaker 1: could potentially hunker down and isolate for the for the
Speaker 1: next few weeks. So I just, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: it's important to recognize that, hey, you have to you know,
Speaker 1: I understand what teams you're a part of and and
Speaker 1: think about how you can serve them past. Right, And
Speaker 1: so if that team is your most immediate team, is
Speaker 1: your spouse, your partner, your immediate family, how can you
Speaker 1: be in service to them? Right? If you're if you
Speaker 1: if you start opening the aperture, opening the rings out. Well,
Speaker 1: the next kind of team that I'm on is actually
Speaker 1: the apartment building I live. And there's a woman Dolores,
Speaker 1: who is eighty three years old that's lived here for
Speaker 1: thirty years, and um, she's a part of my team. Right.
Speaker 1: What can I do for Dolores and reach out to
Speaker 1: her and offer some form of service to let her
Speaker 1: know that, hey, she is on my team, even if
Speaker 1: she doesn't realize that, I'm letting her know you're on
Speaker 1: my team. Or when I'm walking to the market or
Speaker 1: I'm in the grocery store, even little things like making
Speaker 1: eye contact and smiling to people and greeting them and
Speaker 1: saying hello and just those little those little moments of
Speaker 1: connection and calm that you can insert into someone's life,
Speaker 1: um is a service and is as a way of
Speaker 1: letting them know, Hey, we're on the same team and
Speaker 1: we're in this together, and this is you know, how
Speaker 1: we should move through this effectively. It was interesting. I
Speaker 1: was at the Sorry not to go on a tangent,
Speaker 1: but I was at the farmer's market. Um a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago. My wife sent me on a run
Speaker 1: to grab some food for our nine month olds. And
Speaker 1: we're standing in line for eggs and there was a
Speaker 1: woman in front of me. And they're really strict right
Speaker 1: now at the farmer's market. They have chalk lines every
Speaker 1: six feet and they want people to maintain their distance.
Speaker 1: And the woman in front of me was, you know,
Speaker 1: on her chalkol line. I was on my chalk line,
Speaker 1: but the woman in front of her was a little
Speaker 1: bit older. She was on her chalk line, but she
Speaker 1: was you just tell she was specially stressed. And she
Speaker 1: kept yelling at the woman in front of me, saying, hey,
Speaker 1: get away, you keep your distance, stay away from me.
Speaker 1: And she was clear like she in her mind she
Speaker 1: was in the thick of an immediate fight. There was
Speaker 1: a clear and present danger and she was trying to
Speaker 1: do what do what she could do to control the situation. Now,
Speaker 1: the woman next to me that was that was receiving
Speaker 1: these kind of comments from this woman took it in
Speaker 1: a way that said, like who is who are you?
Speaker 1: You're being irrational and crazy and like I'm standing on
Speaker 1: my chalk line. You're standing on your chalk line. And
Speaker 1: she kind of reacted in this a little bit of
Speaker 1: a defensive way. And what I told her was, I said,
Speaker 1: I said, hey, listen, like that woman, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: saying this to you. She is under a threat and
Speaker 1: she has to live with that, right, and so let's
Speaker 1: figure out way that we can make her feel better,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna make everyone feel better. So we all
Speaker 1: moved back a chalk line, gave her some spade. Again.
Speaker 1: It's a small thing, uh, And service and serving the
Speaker 1: teams and serving the communities doesn't have to take these
Speaker 1: really big things. They can come in small moments, and
Speaker 1: these small moments, these small interactions add up and they
Speaker 1: make a big difference. And to bring it back to
Speaker 1: your original question, I was, you know, my wife and
Speaker 1: I again in a small place with raising kind of
Speaker 1: young girls, and uh, there's just a heightened level of
Speaker 1: stress even in our place. And I feel like we're
Speaker 1: pretty we have a pretty good um team, and we
Speaker 1: we respond pretty well to stress, and we're really good communicators.
Speaker 1: But even still, I can sense when my wife is
Speaker 1: at the breaking point, and I can do a little
Speaker 1: thing like I can I can tell the meeting that
Speaker 1: the team if I'm on with work, I say, hey,
Speaker 1: give me two minutes. I'm gonna be right back, And
Speaker 1: I can walk over my wife and say hey, honey,
Speaker 1: just go walk up or go for a walk around
Speaker 1: the block, like I got this for these next two minutes.
Speaker 1: And she knows that, hey, I have stress and eye
Speaker 1: requirements for work that I can't just totally cut off.
Speaker 1: I have to continue to service those things. But even
Speaker 1: a little a little act like that to her lets
Speaker 1: her know that like, oh yeah, my teammate's got my
Speaker 1: back and he's what he can with with you know,
Speaker 1: the time and the space that he has, And a
Speaker 1: little thing like that, she can go out for a
Speaker 1: quick walk, come back and like she's energy and she
Speaker 1: feels better. And the crazy thing is like I feel better,
Speaker 1: Like I feel more resilient because like, oh, I did
Speaker 1: a small thing of service, even though it's, you know,
Speaker 1: seemingly inconsequential, it makes a big difference. Um so big time,
Speaker 1: big time, Like any sort of giving energetically you just
Speaker 1: received tenfold, just the energy of a give you know.
Speaker 1: So I love that. I also love what you touched on.
Speaker 1: You said, um, pat that people are really nervous and
Speaker 1: anxious and stressed out, Like how do I control this?
Speaker 1: Like this is so unpredictable. Is it gonna be two weeks?
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be two months? You know? Is it
Speaker 1: gonna be six months? We have no idea. I love
Speaker 1: what you've done. You've created this program called made for.
Speaker 1: I want to touch on that now. Made for it's
Speaker 1: a ten month program that lies the principles of modern neuroscience, psychology, physiology, UM,
Speaker 1: to help make your brain and body better. But you
Speaker 1: guys do it through the importance of focusing on simple
Speaker 1: things that can drastically help you gain control in your life. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I want you to walk us through what those simple
Speaker 1: things are made for because if we hear that, like
Speaker 1: we're all going through stress, We're all going to the
Speaker 1: lady you spoke of at the farmer's market, Like everybody's
Speaker 1: under this stress and some it's affecting people more than others. Um,
Speaker 1: but what are some of the baseline things, the fundamental
Speaker 1: basic things that everybody anybody listening to this can start
Speaker 1: and applying in their homes, say, say, things are getting
Speaker 1: really wildly out of control, They're really stress, they're really anxious.
Speaker 1: How can we help calm those people down and help
Speaker 1: them gain control of their life again? What are some
Speaker 1: simple things to do that? Yeah, it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a great question, and I'll talk about made for a
Speaker 1: little bit, but for there are Our lead scientific advisor
Speaker 1: is a gentleman named Andrew Huberman UM. He runs the
Speaker 1: Huberman Lab out of Stanford Universities and neuroscientists and in
Speaker 1: addition to being our our lead advisor, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a close friend and um and kind of thought partner
Speaker 1: in a lot of what we're doing and just in
Speaker 1: general kind of on kind of the work that we do.
Speaker 1: Andrew and I we talk a lot about this, like
Speaker 1: what what can you do when you're under stress and
Speaker 1: you feel like you're losing control? And it's interesting the
Speaker 1: there's there's definitely some overlap in what I draw on
Speaker 1: from my experience in the teams in terms of what
Speaker 1: we do when when stress starts to become a little
Speaker 1: bit overwhelming and we feel like we're we're losing control
Speaker 1: a little bit and that matches very well with what
Speaker 1: the neuroscience says, like how do you engage the circuits
Speaker 1: of control in your brain um, and what's going on there?
Speaker 1: And so one of the things we talked about is
Speaker 1: if you feel like you're was in control, if you
Speaker 1: if you just come off of watching a press conference
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I feel like I know less
Speaker 1: than I knew when that press conference started, or I
Speaker 1: feel like, um, I just you know, it's uncertain what's
Speaker 1: going on with work, and I don't understand what's going
Speaker 1: on with the grocery store, and like there's just so
Speaker 1: much going on that's beyond my control. The most important
Speaker 1: thing that you can do, UM, I fundamentally believe this
Speaker 1: from my time in the teams. And Andrew Say would
Speaker 1: agree with this from the neuroscience angle. The most fundamental
Speaker 1: thing that you can do, that you do something and
Speaker 1: that you take action, whatever action that may be, however small.
Speaker 1: That step is get into action and get out of
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about because if you're if you get
Speaker 1: stuck in this cycle of of thought and I don't
Speaker 1: have control, I don't have control, I don't have control,
Speaker 1: that becomes a little bit of a vicious cycle and
Speaker 1: it becomes harder to break. But simply by getting into
Speaker 1: action and literally it can be the smallest thing. It
Speaker 1: could be, you know, Admiral mccraven says, you know, start
Speaker 1: your day by making your bed. But it could be
Speaker 1: as simple as I know I can make a pot
Speaker 1: of coffee. I know I can do a load of laundry.
Speaker 1: I know I can give my wife a hug. I
Speaker 1: know that I can go for a walk around the block.
Speaker 1: I know I can go outside and get two minutes
Speaker 1: of sunshine in the morning. Whatever the act is, simply
Speaker 1: by engaging something with intention and awareness that you're asserting
Speaker 1: control engages your control circuits and allows you to not
Speaker 1: only increase your increase your perception and ability to control things, um,
Speaker 1: but it actually allows you to control things more. So
Speaker 1: you may start with a load of laundry, or start
Speaker 1: by hugging your wife, or start by going for a walk.
Speaker 1: But that leads to the next thing, leads to the
Speaker 1: next thing, leads to the next thing. We're very quickly
Speaker 1: you're out of this mode where you're back on your
Speaker 1: heels and kind of received to your center of gravity
Speaker 1: is forward. You're leaning in your asserting control and you
Speaker 1: just start um reasserting kind of confidence and so that
Speaker 1: I think that is probably one of the most important
Speaker 1: things you can do if you feel like you're losing control.
Speaker 1: As we think about Made for and what we do
Speaker 1: with Made For, so Andrew talks about UM Andrews Humman
Speaker 1: again or neuroscientists and lead adviser Made For. Andrew talks
Speaker 1: about this concept of neuroplasticity, this idea that your brain
Speaker 1: is malleable over your entire life, and you can you
Speaker 1: can shape it or to your benefit, or you can
Speaker 1: shape it to your detriment, depending upon how you how
Speaker 1: you engage it, and how you leverage it. And so
Speaker 1: they're really two ways over the course of your life
Speaker 1: to UM to create brain change. In leveraging this concept
Speaker 1: of neuroplasticity, one is by having a short intense experience, right,
Speaker 1: something that can be um tremendously positive or can be
Speaker 1: tremendously traumatic. Right. It could be I was in a
Speaker 1: bad car accident, I lost a family member, uh, or
Speaker 1: it can be, hey, I just gave birth to a child,
Speaker 1: or I just you know, um, uh, you know, had
Speaker 1: a really positive experience to my wife, whatever, whatever the
Speaker 1: thing is, I'm very short. Duration. Intense experience is a
Speaker 1: one way to rewire the brain um and the effects
Speaker 1: of it can last um for a long period of time. Young.
Speaker 1: The other way is really by taking small steps done
Speaker 1: with intention and awareness over time, and that really is
Speaker 1: the model that made for falls into So our program
Speaker 1: is ten months long. Each month we deliver um a kit. Uh,
Speaker 1: we deliver a kid. Two people inside the kid is
Speaker 1: the relevant science, a tool that someone might use, and
Speaker 1: kind of a challenge designed around what's the smallest fundamental
Speaker 1: thing we can get you to do well? You will
Speaker 1: recognize a benefit of your actions, right, and so these
Speaker 1: are very simple things. We focus on what we call
Speaker 1: them baseline elevating practices, These things that habits of kind
Speaker 1: of body and mind that not only increase your capacity
Speaker 1: to do that thing well, but increase your capacity across
Speaker 1: multiple domains of your life. So we look at, you know,
Speaker 1: for example, we look at gratitude, we look at movement,
Speaker 1: we look at exposure in a your social connection, breathwork,
Speaker 1: all of these things that you intuitively know are good
Speaker 1: for you and that engaging them makes you feel better.
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, you've lost touch with right. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: just especially now, like a lot of those things that
Speaker 1: I think people people have a I mean, we're practicing
Speaker 1: social distancing, but that doesn't mean our lives stop. You know,
Speaker 1: like you you told your if you can go out
Speaker 1: and go for a walk around the block. Yesterday I
Speaker 1: went for a five hour hype with my dog where
Speaker 1: I saw one person in four hours. I was completely
Speaker 1: removed um from society. I mean, there's still ways to
Speaker 1: continue your life. You just have to be a little
Speaker 1: more creative. But like I'm reading your list here of
Speaker 1: the things that you touched on. You said gratitude, you
Speaker 1: said being in nature, connection, breathwork, hydration, rest, fuel, clarity, vision, movement,
Speaker 1: all of those things. I think, like you said, I
Speaker 1: think people need to intentionally put these things into their
Speaker 1: lives in new and unique ways that maybe they couldn't before.
Speaker 1: You know, you can go to the gym. Now you
Speaker 1: can't go to the GM. Gyms are closed here in
Speaker 1: l A. So but how can you still move within
Speaker 1: the space um that you have where you currently live,
Speaker 1: whether it's a house, whether it's apartment. How can you
Speaker 1: be creative and move in there? How can you have
Speaker 1: gratitude when you can be up talking to people all
Speaker 1: the time. How can you still have gratitude, um and
Speaker 1: pass on giving or gratitude to others? How can you
Speaker 1: get proper rest? You know, at this time we should
Speaker 1: be getting more rest than ever before. Um. I love
Speaker 1: to love, you know. And hydration. I mean, man, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this list, and you know what I'm thinking of, Pat,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of We create as a professional athlete, and
Speaker 1: I'm a million percent sure as a Navy seal you
Speaker 1: create good habits one because they're good, but to they're
Speaker 1: a great fallback in a time of stress or anxiety
Speaker 1: or uncertainty. And do that as an individual athlete, and
Speaker 1: we do that collectively as a team. We have systems,
Speaker 1: we have structures, we have set plays. Now within that
Speaker 1: we're going to have creativity. But if things start going
Speaker 1: awry and and things are falling apart a little bit,
Speaker 1: we always have this thing to come back for. So
Speaker 1: like personal habits, for me, preparing for a game, I
Speaker 1: prepared for the game the same way. So whether it
Speaker 1: was the first game of the year or the biggest
Speaker 1: game seven Stanley Cup Playoffs, biggest magnitude game of the year,
Speaker 1: my heart didn't change, you know. So so when an
Speaker 1: unpredictable circumstance came. I had habits that could make me
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, prime me, get me ready to go, um
Speaker 1: and just ease that sort of anxiety and uncertainty a
Speaker 1: little bit. And that's why this list, this made for lists,
Speaker 1: these ten things that you have on your get made
Speaker 1: for dot com for our listeners, you can check this out. Um,
Speaker 1: I just think it's perfect. I think it's a great
Speaker 1: found and layer for people to regain control of their
Speaker 1: lives right now. Yeah, No, I love it. I love
Speaker 1: how you framed it. It's um, there's that a whole mantra. Right.
Speaker 1: You don't rise to the you don't rise to the occasion,
Speaker 1: You fall to the level of your training. Right. And
Speaker 1: so for you as a as a form of professional athlete,
Speaker 1: you you had such a solid foundation that you've built
Speaker 1: that compelled you to excellence when you were on the ice, right,
Speaker 1: you cultivated a mindset of excellence and you were your
Speaker 1: excellence that and every your performance on the ice came
Speaker 1: not a result of anything magical you did on the ice,
Speaker 1: but rather the mountain of work that you put in
Speaker 1: underneath that. Like, the byproduct of having that solid foundation
Speaker 1: is how you showed up on the ice, and that
Speaker 1: carries over into how you live your life. I'm certain
Speaker 1: of it because I mean, I just I know your mindset,
Speaker 1: and I know kind of I feel like I know
Speaker 1: your mindset because I know the type of person you are.
Speaker 1: That you're a type of person. My sense is, um,
Speaker 1: that is always on a growth trajectory, right, You're never
Speaker 1: comfortable being static and and and that you use whatever
Speaker 1: the experience to grow from. And I think it's especially
Speaker 1: imperative right now that you know. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to in any way minimize the very real challenges that
Speaker 1: people are dealing with. People are losing their jobs, people
Speaker 1: have family members that are dying, people are going to
Speaker 1: the hospital, and all of those are very real. Um
Speaker 1: and and my just my heart goes out to people
Speaker 1: experiencing that. But I would say for the majority of
Speaker 1: your listeners and the majority of us that are are
Speaker 1: still trying to are not quite dealing with the acute
Speaker 1: phase of this, but are trying to manage. The challenge
Speaker 1: associated with with coronavirus is that this can be an
Speaker 1: opportunity for growth. What you have to see it, and
Speaker 1: you have to decide how you're going to grow through
Speaker 1: this experience and growth from this experience doesn't mean doesn't
Speaker 1: have to mean all right, I'm going to learn a
Speaker 1: language or take up guitar. I'm gonna you know, give
Speaker 1: in the best shape of my life growth and simply mean,
Speaker 1: what are small positive pursuits that I can take every day?
Speaker 1: They're going to help me bring my best to the world. Right,
Speaker 1: That's how we think about it, right, For like, we
Speaker 1: have this kind of this this mantra that a better
Speaker 1: world begins with the best you. But the best to
Speaker 1: you is not someone that just shows up one day
Speaker 1: and like, hey, you've arrived. The best you comes from
Speaker 1: the small little things you do every day. So that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of how we think about it. But I
Speaker 1: love how I love how you framed it, and the
Speaker 1: fundamentals matter. I mean, that's you know, in the Seal Teams,
Speaker 1: when you find yourself under really heightened levels of stress,
Speaker 1: you notice that, hey, very quickly, your your gross motor
Speaker 1: skills or or your fine motor control starts to degrade.
Speaker 1: That you're even you know, just ability to kind of
Speaker 1: control your voice and your tone. You start to get
Speaker 1: a little bit or you can get a little bit sluggish,
Speaker 1: and really when that happens, you have to fall back
Speaker 1: on fundamentals. Right, How How am I using my breath
Speaker 1: to kind of regulate my mind and my body? How
Speaker 1: am I? Um? You know, how am I? How am
Speaker 1: I gratitude? How can I? How am I finding a
Speaker 1: silver lining in this moment of like extreme stress or
Speaker 1: dress or like these very simple things? Uh matter? So? Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I geek out about the fundamentals
Speaker 1: all day long. I think they're they're too often overlooked,
Speaker 1: and I think, um, often times, you know, people, it's
Speaker 1: very easy. Look, here's the deal. Like, if I wanted
Speaker 1: to have a successful company and guarantee success, I would
Speaker 1: auto up some pills. I would slop and tried and
Speaker 1: audit and I would say like, hey, this is your
Speaker 1: pill that's going to give you success. And I could
Speaker 1: sell a lot of them and it would be very easy.
Speaker 1: But that's just not the kind of person I am.
Speaker 1: And like, you know, it may work for someone for
Speaker 1: a week, but in the long run, it's going to
Speaker 1: do more harm than it does good. I think there
Speaker 1: are so many bads and gimmicks and like hacks out
Speaker 1: there that you know, it's that people get skip bombarded
Speaker 1: with a lot of like marketing stuff, and my message
Speaker 1: is like that, it's not that, hey, you need to
Speaker 1: go by you need to join our program and try
Speaker 1: made for I would love it if you checked it out.
Speaker 1: But the message really is like, think about the fundamental
Speaker 1: essential elements like strip away all the branding and all
Speaker 1: the marketing, and like, ultimately, what is someone telling you
Speaker 1: to do and be self aware enough to note that
Speaker 1: action that you're taking worthy of your time and is
Speaker 1: it making you better? Is it making you feel better?
Speaker 1: Is it making you show up better in the relationships
Speaker 1: in your life that matter? Is it making you more
Speaker 1: intentional and how you're moving through your day? You know,
Speaker 1: That's that's how I think about it. And apologize again,
Speaker 1: I could geek out about this all day. Lef uh Pat,
Speaker 1: you're speaking my language, man, I mean that's why. If
Speaker 1: you look at my Netflix right now, dude, it's every
Speaker 1: single Special Ops Navy seal that's all I've been watching.
Speaker 1: I'm just a huge fan of And here's why. Truthfully,
Speaker 1: why because you guys are the pinnacle. You're the tip
Speaker 1: of the sword. You know, you're the peak of the
Speaker 1: mountain and the way you got there was from small
Speaker 1: little efforts. You didn't just jump up there, you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't just arrive there and become overnight this overnight success.
Speaker 1: And it's the same as an athlete. And we had
Speaker 1: this quote. I wrote it down right here because I
Speaker 1: wanted to share with our listeners. We had this up
Speaker 1: in our locker room so that this was in front
Speaker 1: of our eyes every single day. It's a Robert Collier quote,
Speaker 1: and it says success is the sum of small efforts,
Speaker 1: repeated day in and day out. And it's how I
Speaker 1: feel about you guys. That's why I have an admiration
Speaker 1: for you guys. And it was one of the things
Speaker 1: I was most proud of in my career as a
Speaker 1: professional athlete. Is it wasn't that I had these I
Speaker 1: didn't just acquire or wasn't burnt or born with these
Speaker 1: world class skills. I made incremental, incremental improvements every single day.
Speaker 1: And I always said about myself, I was the best
Speaker 1: at getting better. That's how I looked at myself as
Speaker 1: an athlete. I was the best at getting better as
Speaker 1: every day I made improvements that led to just an
Speaker 1: amazing abundance of ability in the sport. Of hockey and
Speaker 1: what you guys do as Navy seals and um. And
Speaker 1: so when I think about people, if I can, because
Speaker 1: we you and I both believe we're not we're not here.
Speaker 1: It's not a quick fix. You know, we're not going
Speaker 1: to solve all your problems right now. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: just a one eight in your life. But what you
Speaker 1: can do are some of the things, some little things
Speaker 1: that are gonna start showing up every day in your life.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge proponent of rest, Like I'm a huge advocate.
Speaker 1: I always say rest as a weapon. The first thing
Speaker 1: I asked when people are they say their lives out
Speaker 1: of control. They say they're not healthy, they don't energetically
Speaker 1: feel well. My first question is how are you sleeping?
Speaker 1: You know when you wake up in the morning. So
Speaker 1: for our listeners, if you I'm I'm fearful that people
Speaker 1: are sitting at home binge watching Netflix until like two
Speaker 1: in the morning, and then they wake up and I
Speaker 1: feel like crap. Um, My wife and I we go
Speaker 1: to bed at nine o'clock nine fifteen, we get nine
Speaker 1: hours and of sleep, and it's like six o'clock six fifteen.
Speaker 1: We're waking up ready to poll because we've prioritized our rest.
Speaker 1: Um drinking just drinking enough water is a very simple thing.
Speaker 1: Um all right now, I have my Getty or my Yetti,
Speaker 1: I have my sums jugged with me sitting right here
Speaker 1: on the on the desk because I'm doing this chat
Speaker 1: with you, um drinking water. Rest. And also I think
Speaker 1: this time, I think it's equally important as ever for
Speaker 1: people to continue to dream, you know, as you the
Speaker 1: growth mindset, Like, I don't think we put our lives
Speaker 1: on pause here, and I think the people that are
Speaker 1: doing that are somewhat struggling. But the people that are
Speaker 1: using this, as you said, as an opportunity, I believe
Speaker 1: everything is an opportunity. Right now is the most unique
Speaker 1: opportunity maybe we've ever had in our lives. Two. I
Speaker 1: think so much creation and greatness in the world is
Speaker 1: going to come from this um clarity for our own
Speaker 1: perspective of life, for what's important for our place in
Speaker 1: the universe. Um Man, I'm geeking out on this right now.
Speaker 1: Got me fired up. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good. Like also, just to
Speaker 1: share what you talked about, I love what you said
Speaker 1: is the first thing is like take action, any direction,
Speaker 1: any action, you know, any port in the storm. Just start.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I've really used this time
Speaker 1: for is because we can't do a lot of things
Speaker 1: were just inside the house. He can't be outside the
Speaker 1: house doing things everywhere. I've really focused on pride of
Speaker 1: work in everything I do. So even before this conversation,
Speaker 1: reading you, reading articles that you spoke about your background,
Speaker 1: being prepared for this conversation. But one area that I've
Speaker 1: really done it in is cooking. I wasn't. I was
Speaker 1: an awful cook path like I just terrible, just terrible. Um.
Speaker 1: And now I'll spend like I'll spend an hour like
Speaker 1: prepping ingredients, looking up recipes and it's it's really like
Speaker 1: invigorated me and given me life in a new unique
Speaker 1: way and an appre creation for food and for conscious
Speaker 1: eating that I never had before. Some things in your
Speaker 1: life that you are currently doing that are new opportunities
Speaker 1: that you've never looked at, are given time to before. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I got I love you brought up so much that
Speaker 1: to just resonates, um it is. I'm very much in
Speaker 1: the thick of it right now. I've got this company
Speaker 1: that I'm working on I've got, um, these these twins
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to raise, and I think that, and
Speaker 1: then I'm trying to be a good husband um to
Speaker 1: my wife. And so it's I will tell you, there
Speaker 1: are every day I wake up and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if my head is above or below water, but I'm
Speaker 1: fairly certain I'm still swimming, and I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm still swimming. Like it's still good. But what I
Speaker 1: find is that where I'm really trying to um to
Speaker 1: grow is in just being present with my my wife
Speaker 1: and children, to really maintain some some sacred time where
Speaker 1: it's just them and I'm fully immersed in it. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I mean it could it could be
Speaker 1: as you know, it could be bast time, it could
Speaker 1: be during meal time, it could be you know, when
Speaker 1: one baby is kind of rolling around and poop is
Speaker 1: going everywhere, and like really just trying to like be
Speaker 1: present for these moments because like they're they're fleeting, right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna pass, and like very soon a week is
Speaker 1: going to turn into a month, it's gonna turn into
Speaker 1: a few years, and like these I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get these moments back. So that's really where I am
Speaker 1: investing my time is to try to be present with
Speaker 1: my wife. It's interesting and and and my kids. It's
Speaker 1: interesting that you brought up cooking. I have to make
Speaker 1: a mention of my wife. We have we just started
Speaker 1: sleeping again, maybe I guess a month and a half ago. Uh.
Speaker 1: The first six seven months of raising these girls there
Speaker 1: first has been has induced a level of stress that
Speaker 1: was kind of born to us before. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't recognize just how much raising twins it's going
Speaker 1: to take out of us. But the thing that my
Speaker 1: wife has been like pinning her hopes on was she
Speaker 1: had a birthday a couple of weeks ago, and like her,
Speaker 1: her big reward was she this past week was going
Speaker 1: to go to a cooking camp and just be by
Speaker 1: herself and do some self care and learn how to cook,
Speaker 1: because she, like you, is kind of just rediscovering this
Speaker 1: passion for cooking. And unfortunately, coronavirus turned that off and
Speaker 1: she's not there. And so it's been it's been amazing
Speaker 1: to watch her her resilience in bouncing back from you know,
Speaker 1: having this like perfect that was good. That was the
Speaker 1: finished line that she was moving towards at least in
Speaker 1: the in the short term, that like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: got pushed a lot farther out, And just watching her
Speaker 1: respond to that has been She's done it with such grace,
Speaker 1: and I just, you know, I find uh, I find
Speaker 1: so much inspiration in how she kind of moves through
Speaker 1: the day and she, Um, she doesn't care at all
Speaker 1: that I was a Navy seal. Um. She she just
Speaker 1: demands that I show up every day and that that
Speaker 1: I served her and these kids. So I'm kind of
Speaker 1: rambling there, but I don't know, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: put a knot out there her. I think I think
Speaker 1: presence is one of the single most underrated things in life,
Speaker 1: just truly in life, especially in a relationship like true presence. Um.
Speaker 1: That's one thing actually too that I'm working on right now.
Speaker 1: I used to, Pat, I used to like eat breakfast
Speaker 1: and read at the same time. Or I used to
Speaker 1: I would always be doing something. I'd be doing yardwork,
Speaker 1: listening to a podcast. So try and maximize. I'm a
Speaker 1: growth mindset guy, right just like you are. We trying
Speaker 1: to maximize our time. How much information can we digest?
Speaker 1: How can we better our lives? How can we do
Speaker 1: in a week what other people would do in a month. Um.
Speaker 1: And what I found was like, that's putting me under
Speaker 1: some anxiety and some stress. And there's just too much
Speaker 1: stimulation in my life. And so one thing I'm trying
Speaker 1: to work on is doing one thing at a time.
Speaker 1: You know. So when I eat, I want to consciously
Speaker 1: eat and like and just absorb the nourishment of the food,
Speaker 1: would be grateful for the food and then move on
Speaker 1: to whatever I'm doing next and just be presn't in
Speaker 1: that And presence in a conversation means you're not on
Speaker 1: your phone. Presence in a task means you're solely focused
Speaker 1: on the task. And I've just I've seen the quality
Speaker 1: of of my work, of my performance when training, of
Speaker 1: my communication. Um just I've seen it all elevate just
Speaker 1: by simply being president focusing on that task at hand.
Speaker 1: It's one thing I love that you put on it too.
Speaker 1: It's it's massive, I mean, there is It's very easy
Speaker 1: to internalize this idea that busy is progress, that if
Speaker 1: we have lots of things going on, we're making measurable progress.
Speaker 1: And I think that I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: smoke and mirrors, it's not a real thing, right, And
Speaker 1: so presence, real presence and being intentionally focused on immersed
Speaker 1: in whatever it is that you're doing and maximizing it's
Speaker 1: getting the most out of that experience. That's really how
Speaker 1: you how you make progress and how you you know,
Speaker 1: Andrew likes to say the are these are stairs not trampolines, right,
Speaker 1: It's one step at a time, and it's just such
Speaker 1: a it's just such a great visual, right, Like trampolines
Speaker 1: aren't useful, right. You hear these people chasing kind of
Speaker 1: flow states and peak experiences and like coming off of
Speaker 1: whatever thing and like they trampolined up. They saw it
Speaker 1: for a little bit and they come back down and
Speaker 1: then they're looking for the next trampoline. And that's that's
Speaker 1: no way to live, right, And that's not what you
Speaker 1: want to do. Is it's kind of adopt enduring practices
Speaker 1: mindset small steps and cultivate a momentum and a mindset
Speaker 1: that kind of compels, you know, propels you forward. And
Speaker 1: I think presence, just being present in whatever it is
Speaker 1: you're doing, is a huge part of that. So I
Speaker 1: love that, I love that you're that you're doing that
Speaker 1: as well. It's very cool. Um, we've had you for
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. I don't want to keep you for
Speaker 1: too long because I know you've got two young ones
Speaker 1: and your wife and a company to run everything. But
Speaker 1: i'd love to You've touched on two things that I
Speaker 1: just want to get just I'm trying to pull as
Speaker 1: much value as I can right now. UM. And honestly note,
Speaker 1: I'd love to meet you in person path and just
Speaker 1: have a full on discussion about like the Navy seal experience. UM,
Speaker 1: but you touched on two things for our audience to
Speaker 1: get started right now. For people that are in a rut,
Speaker 1: one take action in any direction. Just decide that you're
Speaker 1: gonna put one foot forward in whatever, UM practice. It
Speaker 1: could be a personal development practice. It could be I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do laundry to I'm gonna make the bed this morning,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna connect with my spouse, I'm gonna make a
Speaker 1: phone call to somebody, anything like that. So start one
Speaker 1: take action to be more present. Those are two ways
Speaker 1: that are very easy to start, that are gonna take
Speaker 1: that are going to improve the quality of people's lives.
Speaker 1: What are like three, four and five that you think
Speaker 1: could really again basic things that you think really will
Speaker 1: help people in this time? Is it rest is being
Speaker 1: in nature? Like? What other three? What are three, four
Speaker 1: and five that you think our listeners could really use
Speaker 1: it this time? So I so I think three principles
Speaker 1: to lean on this concept of you know, if you're
Speaker 1: feeling isolated, focus on others, right, Um, figure out how
Speaker 1: you can be in service to others. Uh. If you're
Speaker 1: feeling like you have a like you're losing control and um,
Speaker 1: you're a little bit on more, take action. Uh, just
Speaker 1: by taking action in whatever form at whatever size, is
Speaker 1: going to give you confidence and allow you to reassert control.
Speaker 1: And the third piece, um, the third kind of principle
Speaker 1: or mindset that I would lean on is if you're
Speaker 1: feeling a sense of overwhelmed, that there is just too
Speaker 1: much going on for you to for you to deal
Speaker 1: with and you just don't know where to start move
Speaker 1: the finish line right if if if the finished line
Speaker 1: for you right now is hey, I've got to I've
Speaker 1: got to How am I going to get through the
Speaker 1: rest of this year? How am I going to get
Speaker 1: through the rest of you know, the semester with my
Speaker 1: my kids at home and homeschooling, and that's just too
Speaker 1: much to think about. Move that, move that finished line
Speaker 1: in a little bit closer to a place where you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable that you can progress to, and then when
Speaker 1: you get to that spot, you can move the finish
Speaker 1: line again. It's a it's a technique that we use
Speaker 1: in the teams and training and operations, and I think
Speaker 1: it's really really valuable. And you know, there's lots of
Speaker 1: ways to deliver that same message, but I like this
Speaker 1: kind of concept of moving the finish line in terms
Speaker 1: of steps, concrete steps that you can do. I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, sleep is critical, and just I sleep and
Speaker 1: recovery right, making sure that you're taking time, you know,
Speaker 1: it's important I think to view this challenge as an
Speaker 1: opportunity and find ways to grow in the face of
Speaker 1: the challenging circumstance that we find ourselves in, but also
Speaker 1: take time for self care. And if that means for
Speaker 1: you that like, hey, today you just can't and you
Speaker 1: are going to take a nap, or you're going to
Speaker 1: go to bed at nine o'clock and you're gonna turn
Speaker 1: off Netflix and and read a book and just kind
Speaker 1: of power down for a little bit do that. It's
Speaker 1: important that you um that you care for your body
Speaker 1: in that way. It will just allow you to show
Speaker 1: up better for yourself and others the next day and
Speaker 1: every day going forward. And recognize that we're not in
Speaker 1: a sprint. We're in a marathon and maybe even ultramaterathon.
Speaker 1: So rest is important. The other thing that I think
Speaker 1: is really important, Uh, it's just movements, right. And you
Speaker 1: notice that I don't say I don't say exercise, I
Speaker 1: don't say training, and it's there's take the performance aspect
Speaker 1: of it out of it. Just move your body, even
Speaker 1: if that means going for a walk, or if it
Speaker 1: means you know, standing up in your living room and
Speaker 1: kind of bouncing around and kind of sensing into where
Speaker 1: you're holding stress and trying to release stress and like
Speaker 1: roll around on the floor. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: complicated to make a difference. But make sure that you're
Speaker 1: moving your body every day. I can't it's hard to
Speaker 1: overstress how important that is from a band brain chemistry standpoint,
Speaker 1: but also just from a physical health and how do
Speaker 1: you show up? And then I think, you know the
Speaker 1: last thing is we we have this. You know, it's
Speaker 1: very humans are amazing at normalizing uh, their circumstances, right,
Speaker 1: And so when we normalize the situation, we can go
Speaker 1: on autopilot, right, And so we maybe you went to
Speaker 1: the grocery store and all they had was jump food
Speaker 1: and whatever, like you just grab as much you can
Speaker 1: and you brought it home. And you're sitting at home,
Speaker 1: and because you're stuck at home your board, and you're
Speaker 1: just constantly kind of like you know, eating and maybe
Speaker 1: eating things that you wouldn't ordinarily eat. I would just say,
Speaker 1: you know, focus on or think about and be present
Speaker 1: enough to know what you're putting in your body and
Speaker 1: how it's affecting you. And and you notice I'm not
Speaker 1: saying like eat fruits and vegetables and nuts and like
Speaker 1: avoid this and avoid that. That's not what I'm saying
Speaker 1: at all. I'm just saying, be present to what you're
Speaker 1: putting in your body and how it's affecting you. And
Speaker 1: if you can have that subtle shift and awareness, I
Speaker 1: think it'll play. It'll pay dividends for you, both in
Speaker 1: your energy levels and how you're showing up, but also
Speaker 1: how you're kind of responding to the stress that you're feeling.
Speaker 1: Um alread these times, so that that I think those
Speaker 1: are promised some things that I would think about it
Speaker 1: and that anyone could put into action at this time.
Speaker 1: It's certainly things that we that we lean into in
Speaker 1: the teams. Where can people find made for? Can you
Speaker 1: talk about that for people that because you do a
Speaker 1: ten month program like a more elaborate right now, we're
Speaker 1: trying to give snack able, bite size things to people
Speaker 1: that are listening. But for people that are listening like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's time for me to take action. I want to
Speaker 1: improve the quality of my life. I want to be
Speaker 1: in on this program. Where can people find made for? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Thank thank you for asking for asking the question. That
Speaker 1: our website is www dot get made for dot com,
Speaker 1: g E T M A D E f O R
Speaker 1: dot com. You can find us there. You can follow
Speaker 1: us on Instagram um at made for or you can
Speaker 1: find me on Instagram pat Underscore made for um and
Speaker 1: so you can you can sign up there, learn more
Speaker 1: about learn more about us on our website or uh,
Speaker 1: you know, reach out to us on social and I'm
Speaker 1: happy to answer any questions uh that people may have
Speaker 1: UM and also for your listeners. You know, it's interesting
Speaker 1: we did not design Made for for coronavirus. We didn't
Speaker 1: know that this was happening. We designed made for to
Speaker 1: give people sustainable practices of habit and mind of mindsets
Speaker 1: that they can uh, that they can take on and
Speaker 1: that will help them bring your best to the world. Uh.
Speaker 1: And we did this wide way before Corona showed up.
Speaker 1: But it so happens that now with people isolating, whether
Speaker 1: they're you know, it's your company that um, everyone's working
Speaker 1: from home, or just people are distancing in general, we
Speaker 1: kind of end up having the perfect product for the
Speaker 1: perfect time and that you know, we send kids to
Speaker 1: your home. We give you the steps and the tools
Speaker 1: and the science that you need to uh to adopt
Speaker 1: these practices and um and we kind of put you
Speaker 1: on the to put you on a long game, like
Speaker 1: we're gonna take these stair steps over ten months to
Speaker 1: get you in a place uh, just kind of bringing
Speaker 1: your best self to the world. So, if your listeners
Speaker 1: are interested in Made for when you want to check
Speaker 1: us out our website and you ultimately decide you wanna,
Speaker 1: you wanna, um, you want to join and become a member,
Speaker 1: we have my team sent me a code to share
Speaker 1: with your members. If that's okay. UM, it's just it's uh.
Speaker 1: It's m F thinking. UH is the code and so
Speaker 1: if when you're when you're checking out made for on
Speaker 1: our website, enter the code MF thinking at check out
Speaker 1: and that will give you off the monthly or the
Speaker 1: all in program. The program is designed as ten months
Speaker 1: and each month builds on itself. But understand that, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes people don't want to fully commit, and so if
Speaker 1: you want to try it just for a month, you
Speaker 1: can do one month at a time and there's no strings,
Speaker 1: you can you can drop at any time. So um, listen,
Speaker 1: Hey Brooks, really enjoyed being here. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for giving me a form to kind of talk about
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. And I love what you do
Speaker 1: and kind of how you talk about showing up in
Speaker 1: the world. I think it really matters. Um. I hope
Speaker 1: people adopt some of the some of the things that
Speaker 1: you're putting out there. And UH, I look forward to
Speaker 1: uh to grabbing a beer or getting together sometime soon. Dude. Why,
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you so one, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on. Pat. I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: and I would love to grab a beer and just
Speaker 1: pick your brain and hear all the stories in the training.
Speaker 1: I just love I have such an admiration for what
Speaker 1: you guys do, what you're capable of doing. And even
Speaker 1: at the start of the show you said, these are
Speaker 1: just ordinary people that are just find ways they build
Speaker 1: have us to do extraordinary things. Um, So I'd love
Speaker 1: to have a chat with you one on on just
Speaker 1: in real life. And then to thank you so much
Speaker 1: for offering our our community the MF Thinking promo code
Speaker 1: for get made for dot com. We always try and
Speaker 1: leverage our platform, leverage this podcast to make UM healthy,
Speaker 1: more inspiring, living, fitness, wellness, anything that we can do
Speaker 1: personal growth, more affordable for people, and especially at this
Speaker 1: time right people are seeking this kind of thing and
Speaker 1: are maybe under some economic stress and if you're able
Speaker 1: to provide that for our community, man Um, yes, I
Speaker 1: look forward to the opportunity to be able to serve
Speaker 1: your mission, um, just because you've done such a service
Speaker 1: for myself and for our audience or how many think
Speaker 1: audience today. So um, thank you so much, pat for
Speaker 1: people that love you. I mean, we just did get
Speaker 1: made for dot com. But where can people find you?
Speaker 1: My friend? Are you on social media? Any where where
Speaker 1: can people get more of your personal story? I am yeah,
Speaker 1: you can. You can find me pat Underscore made for UM.
Speaker 1: That's on Instagram. My team's teach me about social media
Speaker 1: and how it works. So I guess it's at pat
Speaker 1: Underscore Underscore made for You can find me there, and UH, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know we I look forward to uh engaging with
Speaker 1: with anyone who's got questions or or you know whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever however I can be of service. I think you
Speaker 1: know it's it's so important. You know, you can do
Speaker 1: made for you can't do made for whatever. But the
Speaker 1: very basic things that that Brooks, what you're talking about
Speaker 1: here and kind of what we talked about today. Everyone
Speaker 1: has this ability inside them, and you can you have
Speaker 1: this capacity inside you. It's just a matter of using
Speaker 1: some very simple steps and practices to kind of um
Speaker 1: to kind of activate you your innate ability to to
Speaker 1: achieve excellence and to and to bring your best self
Speaker 1: to the world. So I look forward to, uh Brooks,
Speaker 1: look forward to link it up in person one of
Speaker 1: these days, and UH look forward to continue the conversation.
Speaker 1: Honestly a lot of fun. Take care of that family,
Speaker 1: or stay active, stay safe and for all of our listeners.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. You guys, Stay active, stay stay
Speaker 1: stay safe, take care of one another, love one another,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you back here next week for another
Speaker 1: episode of How Men Think. Pat You're awesome, dude. Probably
Speaker 1: that was fun for an impromptu session. Everything everything, um, everything,
Speaker 1: you're saying everything, like I'm on the main four website
Speaker 1: right now. It's so it's so true, Like basic fundamentals, man,
Speaker 1: that's just how we start team stuff. We start with that.
Speaker 1: You just rely on that, that just becomes your It's
Speaker 1: almost it's just second nature. You don't even think about that.
Speaker 1: And sometimes, um, sometimes I've noticed that that I skip
Speaker 1: to the more intricate and the more detailed stuff when
Speaker 1: I'm trying to share and try and help people like
Speaker 1: elevate the quality of their lives, because the habits and
Speaker 1: the basic stuff are so habid true for me. But
Speaker 1: then I have to go back. I'm like, this person
Speaker 1: doesn't even sleep, like they barely even they don't even
Speaker 1: meet breakfast before, or like they have no concept of
Speaker 1: recovery or you know, and I'm like, wow, it's actually
Speaker 1: the fundamental things that I was taught so long ago
Speaker 1: that allowed me to build upon that and have success. Um,
Speaker 1: so I love I love you people. Yeah you even
Speaker 1: internalized all that. It's funny, like, you know, I might
Speaker 1: say this on the on the on the podcast, but
Speaker 1: like all the biggest, fastest, strongest guys that go into
Speaker 1: seal training are oftentimes the first to quit um. And
Speaker 1: you know, people have this sense of like what what
Speaker 1: do the Navy seal looks like or what you know,
Speaker 1: but they're always the first ones to quit, and it's
Speaker 1: because they've always been used to leaning back on kind
Speaker 1: of like they're you know, they're in eight talents and
Speaker 1: you know, kind of what they were born with, and
Speaker 1: they've never really been put outside their comfort zone. And
Speaker 1: when they find themselves outside their comfort zone, it's a
Speaker 1: very worn place for them to be in, like and
Speaker 1: they pull. They don't know how to kind of respond
Speaker 1: to that. But the people that you know are a
Speaker 1: little bit comfortable being uncomfortable and have kind of cultivated
Speaker 1: these very like basic foundational things are the ones that
Speaker 1: end up you know, doing well and training and combat
Speaker 1: and the teams and kind of moving forward. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's funny, man. I Hey, just so
Speaker 1: we like our first month is all about hydration, and
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit of the science of it's
Speaker 1: like hydration, the science of like what's going on your
Speaker 1: hydrating and how if you have a loss of total
Speaker 1: body water you start to notice very real cognitive and
Speaker 1: physical deficits. Like that's been proven out and lass and stuff.
Speaker 1: But there's no like what size fits all approach, right,
Speaker 1: there's no like any class of the water a day
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so what we tell people is like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you this water bottle. It's got beads
Speaker 1: on it. We want you to just track your water
Speaker 1: for twenty one days, and every time you drink a bottle,
Speaker 1: move a bead at the end of the day, of
Speaker 1: record how many bottles you drank, and just make a
Speaker 1: couple of sentences on like how you felt. And so
Speaker 1: we're trying to make people present and aware to a
Speaker 1: small thing that they're doing every day and how it's
Speaker 1: affecting them and draw you know, make that connection a
Speaker 1: little bit more robust between like and action you're taking
Speaker 1: and how it's making you feel. And it's it'll blow
Speaker 1: it would blow your mind by like the things people
Speaker 1: come out of that month with they're like oh my god.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I became aware about this and like
Speaker 1: I stopped drinking cokes and now I'm exercising more. What
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, I'm doing that, And like all we
Speaker 1: did was tell people like trek your water like that's it.
Speaker 1: So Um, the fundamentals matter, you know, every every everyone,
Speaker 1: every professional knows that. But oftentimes the general public doesn't
Speaker 1: know that because they get marketed so much bullshit, UM
Speaker 1: that they don't. They lose sight of the fundamentals. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate your brother. UM, I'll let you go pat
Speaker 1: it please, UM let me know how I are we
Speaker 1: the show can ever serve your mission further? UM, I
Speaker 1: would love to meet you in real person having into
Speaker 1: the studio. Just thank you so much for everything and
Speaker 1: for the promo code. Man, thank you so much. Um,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine today, think of business right now and
Speaker 1: and people are already tight with their money and then
Speaker 1: giving people a discount on it. I mean, just high
Speaker 1: five to you man, Thank you so much. All good brother,
Speaker 1: happy to do it. And uh yeah man, let's let's
Speaker 1: connect one of these days when this this whole thing
Speaker 1: settles out. We're we're in Santa Monica, so I'm sure
Speaker 1: we're not too far away, but we're in the Hollywood Hills,
Speaker 1: so yeah, we're not far at all. Okay to look
Speaker 1: forward to it. Yeah, be safe, take care of cheers.
Speaker 1: E Stone, you're still there. I'm here, Betty. Awesome. That
Speaker 1: was a great episode. Man,