Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to another edition of the KSR Pre Show.
Speaker 1: Today is Friday, April eleventh. I am Billy Rutledge and
Speaker 1: one more show without Shannon the Dude. He is on
Speaker 1: the beach enjoying a margarita. I am sure with our
Speaker 1: pal Ryan Lemon. Big thank you to everybody that's jumped
Speaker 1: in with me on the KSR pre Show this week.
Speaker 1: It was Officer Dawn yesterday and what was a very
Speaker 1: fun show. Check it out on podcast if you haven't
Speaker 1: listened to that already. Today we have another frequent KSR
Speaker 1: pre Show co host. He is joining us here in
Speaker 1: the studio. It's the Voice of the Wildcats, Tom Leach.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Tom, it's great to see you this morning.
Speaker 2: Yes, good to be here. I'm just thinking Steeler's Wheel there.
Speaker 2: That's a seventies song that you guys have adopted, which
Speaker 2: I get the stuck in the middle thing. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: always have thought the best recruiting song and this would
Speaker 2: apply for freshman or transfer portal now would come from
Speaker 2: that same era from Steven Stills. If you can't be
Speaker 2: with the one you love, love the one you're with.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, and you've exposed me to more music
Speaker 1: from back in the day because during the Pope Show
Speaker 1: we always have an exit song. Yes, I'm like, Tom,
Speaker 1: what are you feeling tonight? And it's You're always in
Speaker 1: the earth, wind and fire categories kind of the funky
Speaker 1: us guy.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm uh one of the gotta be one of
Speaker 2: the few people in the world that has Parliament and
Speaker 2: Barry Manilow on my iPad music list, so.
Speaker 1: You can't just press shuffle on your love all the
Speaker 1: different categories. Speaking of Steeler's Wheel, there is no definition
Speaker 1: of you know, clowns to the left of me, jokers
Speaker 1: to the right that is not imploying.
Speaker 2: You or.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to make sure that's clear Tom
Speaker 1: up front. But it's great to be with you again.
Speaker 1: I always appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: Tom. You're a busy guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have the football season, you double dip
Speaker 1: there for a couple months with the basketball season, and
Speaker 1: then right when basketball is.
Speaker 3: Over, they send you out to Keenlan for eight straight days.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do some stuff for Keeling. You're on various things
Speaker 2: podcasts and video handicapping and things. But during the race beat,
Speaker 2: we Jim Goodman and I do the mutuals guy for Keenland,
Speaker 2: and we do a podcast for every racing day of
Speaker 2: the late Pick four. We do that year round, but
Speaker 2: during Keenland we do it for every day of the
Speaker 2: race meet. So yeah, that that is a little gets
Speaker 2: a little crazy during October too with football going on.
Speaker 2: But it's fun because it's great racing and it's a
Speaker 2: great excuse to be out at Keeland to do some
Speaker 2: things for their Today at Keenland show. So just it's
Speaker 2: good to have a reason to be at Keenland.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: An excuse to be at Keenland to elo or Burgu
Speaker 1: is a great excuse. Do you ever think about how
Speaker 1: awesome your career is, Tom ih Yeah, you can fall
Speaker 1: in basketball then straight into Keenland, yep, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean you can't get much better than that.
Speaker 2: No, It's is the only job I ever aspired really,
Speaker 2: so I've been very fortunate.
Speaker 3: In the past.
Speaker 1: We've had your journalism professor call in and share photos
Speaker 1: of a young Tom Leech.
Speaker 2: Who Corey Price comes up with one.
Speaker 3: You'll get Corey.
Speaker 1: Price, I'm sure at some point today as he'll share
Speaker 1: an old photo. So we do appreciate you having you
Speaker 1: back on do you like Keenland more than Churchill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just grew up around Keenland and
Speaker 2: it's kind of the home track. When my mom passed,
Speaker 2: I was going through items in the house. It took
Speaker 2: weeks to get through stuff. She was a bit of
Speaker 2: a pack rat that had all this stuff, which was
Speaker 2: great because you found all these memories as I was
Speaker 2: going through things, and I found the program from the
Speaker 2: first time I went to Keenland in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 2: It was ten And the reason I know it was
Speaker 2: the first time is because the reason we went to
Speaker 2: Keenland was because a friend of my dad's had a
Speaker 2: horse running that he trained, and I finally had one
Speaker 2: good enough to run at Keenland and we went to
Speaker 2: see this horse run, and so the horse show up
Speaker 2: at the program, it's like, oh, well that was the day.
Speaker 2: It's like April something in nineteen seventy one. Wow, and
Speaker 2: you still got the program. Yeah, so that's neat. Didn't
Speaker 2: know that was there until I was going through items,
Speaker 2: through a box of stuff and found it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, you never know what you're gonna find when
Speaker 1: you go through those old boxes. And a little Kentucky
Speaker 1: flavor ae Keenland. Over the last couple of days. He
Speaker 1: had a horse, Kobe Brea from three did he do?
Speaker 2: Did? He ran fifth two year olds his first start
Speaker 2: and he's really bred to go a little longer than
Speaker 2: four and a half fur long, so he could still
Speaker 2: turn out to be something good. And then d book
Speaker 2: I assumed name for Devin Booker won at fifty four
Speaker 2: to one. Wow.
Speaker 1: That talk about screwing up some pick five's and some.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they've got a big carryover. And the pick
Speaker 2: six today at Keenland's like over two hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: to see the pool in addition to what gets met today.
Speaker 2: So it'll be a that'll be a big deal at
Speaker 2: Keenland today with a big carryover.
Speaker 3: I wish I knew the horse racing lingo Tom.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love covering when like Churchill downs and
Speaker 1: the Dirty Yep, interviewing jockeys once again and uh and
Speaker 1: I'll trick myself into thinking that I know about horse racing,
Speaker 1: but it's something that a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: a lot of right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there are experts.
Speaker 2: And so they do, but there are casual for something
Speaker 2: like the Derby, there are casual fans who are listening
Speaker 2: to that coverage, Yeah, they'll pay any attention maybe the
Speaker 2: rest of the year. So it's actually I think there's
Speaker 2: a an advantage to having some people involved in broadcast
Speaker 2: like that that don't speak all the horse lingo, because
Speaker 2: you can get a little too deep into the weeds
Speaker 2: on some of that stuff sometimes for an audience that
Speaker 2: doesn't understand all those terms because.
Speaker 1: Living yeah, and I'm you know, more of an entertainment
Speaker 1: aspect of it. They'll they'll weed me out when I say,
Speaker 1: you know, was your mother and mutter and they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't really work, it's not right intoday.
Speaker 2: Well, you can always follow the advice, kay, would I
Speaker 2: ever give me about interviewing coaches, Like, look, they're making
Speaker 2: the big bucks. Just short, simple questions, let them give
Speaker 2: you the answers.
Speaker 1: That's great advice because you have the impossible task of
Speaker 1: interviewing coaches after tough losses. You know, Stoops can be
Speaker 1: a fiery guy, but I feel like he's very honest,
Speaker 1: Like he will tell you how he feels Mark Pope,
Speaker 1: and this has been your first year with Pope.
Speaker 3: I feel like he has devastating Yes, after these losses.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's first time dealing with him through you know,
Speaker 2: the the ups and downs, and he's, you know, wonderful
Speaker 2: to work with and really interesting guy. But he is
Speaker 2: just crushed. I think the after the Alabama game, and
Speaker 2: I think he there's a part of him that feels
Speaker 2: the weight of the fan base too, that you know,
Speaker 2: they've let them down and it you know you're gonna
Speaker 2: lose some games. It's it's going to happen. But he
Speaker 2: takes it hard.
Speaker 3: Thinks it really hard.
Speaker 1: After wins, you know, he's going up into the crowd,
Speaker 1: it's it's two hours after the game, and he's facetiming
Speaker 1: people's grandmothers and but after a loss, Man, he is distraught.
Speaker 3: I mean it's tough to get five words out of him.
Speaker 1: And so that's a that's a stark contrast from what
Speaker 1: we've had in the past. But it's been a very
Speaker 1: fun first year of Mark Pope. I mean, you get
Speaker 1: to talk with the guy during the coaches shows you
Speaker 1: I'm sure you go to practice very often. Tom, How
Speaker 1: has your relationship been with Mark Pope this first great?
Speaker 2: He's been easy to uh, to develop a relationship with.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can you know, he didn't mind you
Speaker 2: ask him whatever you want to ask him. And I'm
Speaker 2: just you know, look at you know, after a game,
Speaker 2: you know you want to ask that. Trying to think
Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, on your Grol's call and
Speaker 2: show you and Matt what are they going to be
Speaker 2: asking about? You know, why did you do this? Why
Speaker 2: did you run this play? Why did you go to
Speaker 2: that guy? And again it's not like asking it to
Speaker 2: you know in terms of you know, hitting somebody against
Speaker 2: the wall with a question. It's just like, why'd you
Speaker 2: do that? Yeah, and you didn't have to be a
Speaker 2: long involved question. It's just and because that's what fans
Speaker 2: want to know, Why did you do this? Why did
Speaker 2: you play that guy? You know, I remember down to
Speaker 2: the Vandy game, Trent Noah played some late in the game.
Speaker 2: It was like in late January, hadn't played much to
Speaker 2: that point. Turned out, you know, putting him in in
Speaker 2: a situation like that, which looked a little odd at
Speaker 2: the time, was leading to paying dividends because he ended
Speaker 2: up being a significant part of the rotation there down
Speaker 2: the stretch.
Speaker 1: Excited for a sophomore year, Trent Noah, There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. On the flip side, the jubilation of a
Speaker 1: win after in Illinois, right, I mean the locker room
Speaker 1: at that point and interviewing coach where he's so grateful
Speaker 1: and at times reflective, Right, I mean after wins like that,
Speaker 1: they kind of think back of the journey and how
Speaker 1: great it's been with these guys, and there were some
Speaker 1: great moments that they were able to share this.
Speaker 2: And he's so much into analytics, and so it's easy
Speaker 2: to kind of you can get into some things. You know,
Speaker 2: what you did this what Obviously there's probably some numbers
Speaker 2: that were dictating some of these decisions. Tell us what
Speaker 2: you were seeing sometimes, you know, it's like something that
Speaker 2: seems unusual when you hear the explanation. Okay, yeah, that
Speaker 2: makes sense. I see what you know. I see what
Speaker 2: you're thinking about.
Speaker 3: The analytical approach.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the masters a little later in the show,
Speaker 1: but I feel like Bryson d. Chambeau and Mark pop
Speaker 1: are from the same planet. Tom, they're from a different planet,
Speaker 1: but they're from the same planet their analytical approach and
Speaker 1: how they do things. But we're talking Kentucky basketball right
Speaker 1: now with the voice of the Cats, Tom Leech. If
Speaker 1: you have a question for US eight five nine two
Speaker 1: eight h two two eight seven. But the news bomb
Speaker 1: from last night was that a Caden Lewis de committed
Speaker 1: from the University of Kentucky. The four star freshmen and
Speaker 1: number thirty or thirty two depending on the service recruit
Speaker 1: in the class of twenty twenty five, originally from the Washington,
Speaker 1: DC area, will.
Speaker 3: Not be on the Cat's roster.
Speaker 1: And I can't help but think that has a lot
Speaker 1: to do after the transferportal edition of Jalen Low from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Who has two years left. So I think that's the
Speaker 2: conventional wisdom. I think seems to be that that would
Speaker 2: be why Lewis decided to look elsewhere because the nil
Speaker 2: terms were already in place, one would assume, so that
Speaker 2: was already settled. And I always get it, get it
Speaker 2: somewhat of a kick is the right word out of this,
Speaker 2: but just kind of you shake your head if And
Speaker 2: a lot of times I gets people around the players
Speaker 2: sometimes are telling him, well, you know you're you're not
Speaker 2: going to get minutes there. You need to go somewhere
Speaker 2: else if you aspire to be in the NBA, and
Speaker 2: you're saying I'm going somewhere else because I can't play
Speaker 2: enough at Kentucky. You're probably not going to the NBA.
Speaker 1: Shying away from competition is not in the elite athletes blood,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like the athletes a lot of times maybe want to
Speaker 2: do it and maybe you know it's and it also
Speaker 2: could be somebody could be saying since he hadn't signed,
Speaker 2: it could be a better nil offer. I guess that
Speaker 2: that could be a possibility. Somebody's you know, missed out
Speaker 2: on somebody and so they say, hey, we'll give you
Speaker 2: X more if you come here that you know, certainly
Speaker 2: in these days it could be something like that.
Speaker 1: We live in weird times as we wait for this
Speaker 1: the NCAA versus House settlement, that will maybe bring some
Speaker 1: clarity to this. I found a quote that a cad
Speaker 1: And Lewis gave to twenty four to seven Sports right
Speaker 1: after he committed to Kentucky. It may shed some light
Speaker 1: on his decision. He said, they want me to come
Speaker 1: in and play a priority role right away. There's a
Speaker 1: starting spot and he wants me to take it. I
Speaker 1: want to come in and run the team. And look,
Speaker 1: this is the new day of college sports. If you're
Speaker 1: not guaranteeing me playing time, then sometimes these kids are
Speaker 1: going to look elsewhere. Right, If somebody is guaranteeing playing time,
Speaker 1: you know, then there is you know, there's a saying
Speaker 1: that grass isn't always greener on the other side, even
Speaker 1: though that may be what you want. I just know
Speaker 1: that his family was all in. Like if you've seen
Speaker 1: what they've been posting on social media, they love to
Speaker 1: bb and they knew the power of the stage and
Speaker 1: the platform that Kentucky Basketball puts you on. But when
Speaker 1: you've got a crowded henhouse, you know, sometimes you get
Speaker 1: people that want to go elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, and it could but it also could
Speaker 2: be you know, a better deal somewhere else because of
Speaker 2: circumstances changing. You just you never know what you don't know.
Speaker 2: But it's a disappointment, certainly to lose somebody this late.
Speaker 2: So now you would assume you're looking to find a
Speaker 2: point guard. You're not going to find a freshman of
Speaker 2: that caliber certainly, right.
Speaker 1: I don't think Travis Perry as a second and string
Speaker 1: point guard is the plan either.
Speaker 2: I think that I think you know, Travis is I
Speaker 2: kind of think he and Trent both can certainly play here.
Speaker 2: I think Travis needs Trent's a little thicker and bigger
Speaker 2: and was a little able to a little better able
Speaker 2: to hold up physically. Travis, I think will benefit from
Speaker 2: just getting stronger in the weight room, and I think
Speaker 2: he can certainly play here. If just you know, at
Speaker 2: this point, I think you're you would like to have
Speaker 2: somebody with a little more experience and in the second slot,
Speaker 2: probably behind Low. Maybe it's somebody out there you can
Speaker 2: find that comes in and challenges jayal Low. What most
Speaker 2: likely you're thinking you're finding somebody and that's not the
Speaker 2: easiest thing to find. I would think to find somebody
Speaker 2: that would be comfortable to be the backup point guard.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to be the starting point.
Speaker 3: Guard right in. Minutes played is also another factor.
Speaker 2: I mean, although I think we've seen what with Mark
Speaker 2: you're gonna get, I don't think that you'll you'll get minutes.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think he's playing anybody. You know,
Speaker 2: rare to play somebody thirty five or more minutes, and
Speaker 2: I guess that's more of the front court.
Speaker 1: It feels like his philosophy with Biggs is more twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes. Guards maybe can lean into more of the
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five range.
Speaker 2: If so.
Speaker 3: You mentioned Trent, No, the guy can rebound with the
Speaker 3: best of the time.
Speaker 2: And he had a knack for just not only rebounding,
Speaker 2: but coming up with loose balls and just being able
Speaker 2: to define that fifty to fifty ball. And that's something
Speaker 2: that is it's hard to maybe measure a little bit
Speaker 2: numbers wise, I would think, but it's certainly you can
Speaker 2: see that he has a knack for it.
Speaker 1: He's also got a little bit of billy confidence, that
Speaker 1: irrational confidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: I mean, just pull up from a different county and Travis.
Speaker 2: Has some of that. I mean, you saw a couple
Speaker 2: of the shots that he took, I think a one
Speaker 2: out of Missouri. It's just Travis was just got a
Speaker 2: little overwhelmed from a defensive standpoint where he's just not,
Speaker 2: you know, as developed as he needs to be. And
Speaker 2: if you there are ways if you're not as quick
Speaker 2: as the guy you're going up against, but you're stronger
Speaker 2: and so you can bump them a little bit and
Speaker 2: you know, throw them off as they are trying to
Speaker 2: attack you off the bounds. Well, he didn't have the
Speaker 2: strength yet to do that, so that's maybe his counter
Speaker 2: over time as he gets stronger and then so yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not as quick as you know if he's guarding
Speaker 2: Jalen Lowe in a game, was just playing with him now,
Speaker 2: but you you know, there are ways to offset, you know,
Speaker 2: your deficiencies, and he'll gather that over time, I would.
Speaker 3: Think, and you'll see some development from these guys.
Speaker 1: I know we're talking about the Kentucky kids, but you know,
Speaker 1: an emphasis on keeping guys in your system I think
Speaker 1: is important to Mark Pope. And now we've got another
Speaker 1: mister Kentucky basketball coming to the roster in Malachi Morenos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, really interesting pack set of skills
Speaker 2: that he has and playing in the Nike Hoop Summit tonight.
Speaker 2: So he's a guy that you would think is likely
Speaker 2: a multi year player.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you more about the transfer
Speaker 1: portal class because what Mark Pope is doing I think
Speaker 1: is fantastic.
Speaker 3: He's done some great things.
Speaker 1: But before we take our first break, I want to
Speaker 1: ask you do you think Brandon Garrison's on the roster
Speaker 1: next year?
Speaker 2: I would hope. So, I mean I don't have any
Speaker 2: I'm not going to yes because I don't have any
Speaker 2: intel on it. But uh I was just talking with
Speaker 2: Mike Decorsiu on my show about it, and he's like,
Speaker 2: why would you leave you could you could well be
Speaker 2: the starter. I mean, acquaintance is coming off an injury,
Speaker 2: so you don't know, you know, I know he says
Speaker 2: he's going to be ready by September, but we'll see
Speaker 2: if but I think you know, certainly he'll be ready
Speaker 2: early in the season, if not before. But still, you're
Speaker 2: the guy with experience and you have a big edge,
Speaker 2: and you know you have a coach who if you know,
Speaker 2: if you're Brandon Garrison, you aspire to be in the NBA.
Speaker 2: You're a McDonald's ull American. The way you get there,
Speaker 2: I would think is being a a guy who can
Speaker 2: you can stretch the floor by shooting threes in the NBA,
Speaker 2: really good passing skills. I mean, he has a lot
Speaker 2: to like, just needs to get stronger. You know, he
Speaker 2: amari held up better physically than BG did, but that
Speaker 2: can change with a you know, full year in the
Speaker 2: weight room. Remember he had some injury issues. It probably
Speaker 2: limited his weight room work somewhat over you know, leading
Speaker 2: up to the season. I'm not sure you know how
Speaker 2: many other places are going to be open to him
Speaker 2: being as inclined to take that three point shot. But
Speaker 2: I mean he's shut. He shot what about thirty It
Speaker 2: wasn't bad. It wasn't you know, thirty three percent. I mean,
Speaker 2: and you could see him. Mark Pope's very high on
Speaker 2: him as a shooter, so I could see him being
Speaker 2: a thirty seven thirty eight three point shooter. Remember the
Speaker 2: Oklahoma game where he switched off on fears some Yeah,
Speaker 2: can he develop that skill a little bit and have
Speaker 2: a little bit of that Willie Cowley Stein ability to
Speaker 2: be a big guy who could switch off and guard
Speaker 2: a guard for at least a limited time and a
Speaker 2: pick and roll. You develop all those kinds of skills.
Speaker 2: You've got a nice look at NBA resume, I would think,
Speaker 2: and you had a chance to develop all those skills here.
Speaker 1: Definitely improved as the season went on and you brought
Speaker 1: up the Oklahoma game, I mean, probably one of his
Speaker 1: best of the year.
Speaker 3: But also he runs a little white hot.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they need to you know, channel that a
Speaker 2: little differently, but again that that comes with a little time.
Speaker 2: But you know, he's a you know, a very passionate
Speaker 2: young man. It seems like. So I hope he's back
Speaker 2: because I think a little stronger version of that guy
Speaker 2: that's developed his shot just a little more and a
Speaker 2: little more of a you know, offensive gamer in the basket.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was a much better passer than I
Speaker 2: was expecting. I thought we were going to get that
Speaker 2: from Amari and did. But Beg was a little bit
Speaker 2: of a surprise and how well he passed the ball.
Speaker 3: Do you ever have any of that weed of bix
Speaker 3: before you take a break?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 3: I heard it was pretty dry, sounded like the warm milk.
Speaker 2: I actually wrote down with with Beg, I think on
Speaker 2: the elevator one day up in Indianapolis, and I asked
Speaker 2: him and he said he said it needed a lot
Speaker 2: of sugar. He said, he said it was like oatmeal
Speaker 2: and it needed a lot of sugar, and it was
Speaker 2: okay with the you know the accompaniments.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like my coffee this morning. I take a
Speaker 1: little coffee with my cream and sugar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a coffee drinker, but when I tried
Speaker 2: to drink it, it turned into something closer to hot chocolate.
Speaker 1: Hey, we'll give us call this morning. Eight five nine
Speaker 1: two eighth two two eight seven. If you have any
Speaker 1: questions for the voice of the Wildcats, we'll keep talking
Speaker 1: Kentucky basketball, some other sports headlines, and some madness that
Speaker 1: happened at the Masters. You spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: at Keenland, so I'm not sure if you saw this toime,
Speaker 1: but some amateurs just making a fool of themselves on
Speaker 1: the course yesterday. We'll take a break and be right back.
Speaker 1: Tom Leach and Billy Rutledge here on the KSR, and
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of it's got the receipts. Hey, welcome back.
Speaker 1: This is the KSR pre show. It's Billy and Tom
Speaker 1: having a good time. It's the conversations during the break.
Speaker 1: A lot of times that that should that you should
Speaker 1: be here over the air.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we were.
Speaker 2: Just talking about Tim Rustard's interview style.
Speaker 1: Actually, Tom, how do you do pronunciations to Sorry to
Speaker 1: switch you to a different topic there, but you're somebody
Speaker 1: that's done play by play for a while. You've seen
Speaker 1: some crazy names over the year. Is it just a
Speaker 1: repetition thing?
Speaker 2: Defensive end for Indiana? We had him for about four
Speaker 2: years and I just it's it was almost kind of lyrical.
Speaker 1: So like remembering a song. It's just something that comes
Speaker 1: to you and you get it down.
Speaker 2: I was, I have a scorecard that I keep and
Speaker 2: do uh do it by hand. In football, so many
Speaker 2: names on there, so I do that by hand. In basketball,
Speaker 2: I have a template that like, so I could just
Speaker 2: print up Kentucky on a board for uh each game
Speaker 2: and then I fill in, but I type in the
Speaker 2: other team and then but I will sometimes because I
Speaker 2: don't have to turn in a paper, I'm so I
Speaker 2: type it the way I want to say it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then also I'll have it spelled out, written out
Speaker 2: phonetically and then that's highlighted in pink usually so that
Speaker 2: it's there easy to find. And you mean you're on
Speaker 2: the board. There will be times you may hear me
Speaker 2: just going and you know, looking at the guy and
Speaker 2: a Gunliam actually you know, just getting it in.
Speaker 1: My head and you got the media guide and sids
Speaker 1: that helped.
Speaker 2: Funny story on media guy. There was a few years
Speaker 2: ago they were playing Kansas and it was as a bookie,
Speaker 2: the big Fella. I think that I think it was.
Speaker 2: I think it was as a bookie that they had.
Speaker 2: But in the media guide, the first listing for it.
Speaker 2: It was like something like as a bouquet or something
Speaker 2: a little different, and so it's like, oh, it's in
Speaker 2: the media guide. I used that and then turned out
Speaker 2: it was actually not correct and if you walk deeper
Speaker 2: into the notes, further back in the back, it was
Speaker 2: actually written another way. And we will get resolution on
Speaker 2: one thing, I assume this season because the Vanimir the
Speaker 2: leis at Kentucky is the brother of Thomas love Ivasi
Speaker 2: at Illinois, so it can't be both twice. No, no,
Speaker 2: so now that they're both on the same team, so
Speaker 2: we we need a resolution on that.
Speaker 1: I bring this up because the Tennessee quarterback is in
Speaker 1: the news for renegotiation, renegotiating his already eight million dollar
Speaker 1: nil deal with Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's There's twenty six letters in the alphabet
Speaker 2: and I think he uses eighteen of them. Name.
Speaker 3: Do you remember it?
Speaker 2: I know it's a long name, and I can't when
Speaker 2: you say it, I'll remember it because I struggled with
Speaker 2: that one last year. Well, getting it, I don't. I
Speaker 2: think I got it right during the game, but it
Speaker 2: was I was fighting that all week to get it.
Speaker 1: Well, I hope Darren isn't listening because he spent maybe
Speaker 1: two weeks trying to teach me how to say this
Speaker 1: guy's name, and I still can't do it. Is it
Speaker 1: Lama Lieva or Ela Lama Laya, Lama Lavea?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a and I know had a.
Speaker 3: Hey Lava lamp.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's There was one this season, and in fact,
Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was, but it was somebody's
Speaker 2: name and it was Yeah. I wish I could remember
Speaker 2: it because I came up with a way that worked,
Speaker 2: some pop culture reference, but it was like part of
Speaker 2: the name, and I gave it to Tom Hardy said, Hey,
Speaker 2: you're right, that that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's like me trying to remember people's names, like you
Speaker 1: associate it with something else, a pop culture reference or something,
Speaker 1: and you can call back to it. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully he doesn't get his money, Tom, he just doesn't
Speaker 1: play for Tennessee. I'd like to see them lose every game.
Speaker 1: But we'll take a break. We're here with the Voice
Speaker 1: of the Cats, Tom Leach. It is the KSR pre Show,
Speaker 1: Welcome Back.
Speaker 3: It is the show before the show.
Speaker 1: The KSR Pre Show will hand it off to Drew
Speaker 1: the final day of drew Apalooza.
Speaker 3: He's got some.
Speaker 1: Fun things planned. I'll let him share a little later
Speaker 1: and I'll be joining him. We're watching the Masks.
Speaker 2: Who's playing it well?
Speaker 1: You know, we tried Tyler Childish, but he's busy, so
Speaker 1: we had we have to settle for some other bands.
Speaker 1: But we know Rick Ryder will get us in and
Speaker 1: out with some great music. Tom Leech is in studio,
Speaker 1: the Voice of the Wildcats. It's great to have you
Speaker 1: in studio.
Speaker 2: Tom.
Speaker 1: Interviews are always better when in person than over there own.
Speaker 1: And we're watching the Masters in studio here, probably one
Speaker 1: of my favorite weekends of the year.
Speaker 3: Hoping that you can find some time to watch some
Speaker 3: with all the keenland.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping so on Sunday afternoon at least. I love
Speaker 2: watching all the majors. And I were you a fan
Speaker 2: of moving the PGA to May.
Speaker 3: I was indifferent about it.
Speaker 2: I was initially I thought that was good, and then
Speaker 2: as it's played out, I don't like it because I'm
Speaker 2: busy with you know, from with the horse racing stuff
Speaker 2: this and you know, it's just in August. It was
Speaker 2: nice to have because football had started yet another major
Speaker 2: sporting event there in August. Anyway, I love watching the Majors,
Speaker 2: so the two I get to see the most of,
Speaker 2: or usually the US Open and the British because they're
Speaker 2: in June and July.
Speaker 1: I will say it doesn't feel right when it ends
Speaker 1: with the British. Now I agree, it just doesn't feel
Speaker 1: right with the Peigans and yeah, exactly, but they did
Speaker 1: have a gap and they wanted to fill that gap.
Speaker 1: It was an eventful day at the Masters. I want
Speaker 1: to fill you in on some headlines, Tom, because not
Speaker 1: only did Justin Rose have a great round at seven
Speaker 1: under with only twenty two putts, there were some weird
Speaker 1: odd stories around the course, including Nick Dunlap, who was
Speaker 1: only the eleventh golfer all time in the Masters to
Speaker 1: not break ninety. He shot a ninety Tom but had
Speaker 1: zero three putts, really zero three putts on the round.
Speaker 1: Actually averaged one point eight three putts a hole and
Speaker 1: shot ninety at Yester Year.
Speaker 2: He was kind of sounds like my game. Once I
Speaker 2: get to the green, I'm a decent putter, but it
Speaker 2: just takes a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, found the long stuff.
Speaker 1: Maybe found Ray's Creek, But Ray's Creek is the center
Speaker 1: of the next controversy I want to talk about because
Speaker 1: US Amateur Champion Jose Lewis Ballister is twenty one years old.
Speaker 1: He's from Arizona State University. He wore an upside down
Speaker 1: hat yesterday that said Arizona State, you've seen those new styles, Tom,
Speaker 1: where it's not just flipped lettering, but it's upside down lettering. Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't think I, oh, you haven't seen it in
Speaker 1: basketball and doesn't belong in Augusta is the short take here.
Speaker 1: But he went on to admit in the postgame press
Speaker 1: conference after the game that he relieved himself at Ray
Speaker 1: into Ray's Creek on the thirteenth hole while nobody was
Speaker 1: looking after he had hit his third shot. There was
Speaker 1: something going on with Justin Thomas and the green, so
Speaker 1: he had some time to kill and he really had
Speaker 1: to pee.
Speaker 3: Tom. He turned around and peed into Ray's creek.
Speaker 2: I have plenty of trees there.
Speaker 1: He said afterwards that he did not know that there
Speaker 1: were restrooms right off the tea box on the thirteenth tee.
Speaker 1: He actually got a round of a play from the paint.
Speaker 2: Thing was.
Speaker 3: He wasn't thinking, Tom.
Speaker 2: Was it like a the library where one would go
Speaker 2: to study or something or what did he think?
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do about this? This is Augusta National,
Speaker 1: This is not the public course. He is peeing into
Speaker 1: Ray's Creek. Should he be allowed to play the round today?
Speaker 2: We'll give him one U one U forgiveness one morning one.
Speaker 2: I don't know if a warning is the right word,
Speaker 2: but like, look, dude, you can't ever do anything like
Speaker 2: that again. Do you have any questions? Do you want
Speaker 2: to ask before you begin the second round? Because you're
Speaker 2: on from this is movie, way before your time. Animal House.
Speaker 2: He's on double secret probation.
Speaker 3: Now I've seen it. I've seen Animal.
Speaker 2: He's on double secret probation.
Speaker 1: But like patrons have tried to take, you know, a
Speaker 1: handful of sand home with them, some blades of grass,
Speaker 1: and they will be tackled and taken to jail and
Speaker 1: banned from the premises. You're telling me this amateur peas
Speaker 1: and Ray's Creek. Not only that, he said afterwards they
Speaker 1: saw me. It was not embarrassing at all for me.
Speaker 1: If I had to do it again, I will do
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 2: Well he should be embarrassed.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I don't want to be a hypocrite.
Speaker 1: Tom because I'm not going to say I've never done
Speaker 1: that on a public course as frequent golfer, but in Augustina,
Speaker 1: I'm not in a major, and I'm not at Augusta.
Speaker 1: That is the one place where I could see. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be like, you know, mister grumpy, get
Speaker 1: off my lawn here, but that's that's the sacred place.
Speaker 3: And I cannot believe this amateur did that yesterday.
Speaker 2: Did not did not see did not see that story.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully nobody saw him actually do what he was doing,
Speaker 1: because that sounded like he did get a round of
Speaker 1: applause when he had his back turned when he did it. Unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I can't believe to make Sports Center top ten, probably not,
Speaker 1: probably not, I hope not. I just I'm shocked by it.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones, though, A five nine, two
Speaker 1: eight two two eights, and we've had some people patiently waiting,
Speaker 1: like Peanut, who is our first caller today.
Speaker 3: What's up, Peanut?
Speaker 2: I was going Billy, Tom, Hello, Pinut.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, Tom, you reminded me digging through your
Speaker 4: mom stuff when my mom passed.
Speaker 5: I've been going through a couple of.
Speaker 4: Tops of hers, and I found a lot of uh
Speaker 4: in the seventies of the Kentucky Derby programs. Those they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would could sit like in the breast pocket
Speaker 2: of your coat. I think that's how they were designed.
Speaker 4: And also a bunch of She's got a lot of
Speaker 4: the glasses to the Derby glasses. So I'm trying to
Speaker 4: start a collection, trying to get them all.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's good. A lot of times you'll see some
Speaker 2: of those kind of things at garage sales. You may
Speaker 2: be able to add to your collection that way. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that that's a.
Speaker 4: That's I actually got a got a flea market buddy
Speaker 4: down here in Orlando. He's giving me several from the seventies,
Speaker 4: and so I'm trying to get a lot of them.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they're hard to find, but I'm sure they're
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good, thank you, peanut. Nothing like a good flea
Speaker 3: market to find some good old memorabilia. They're they're out there.
Speaker 1: Our guy Bo Robinson one of the best collectors. Uh,
Speaker 1: do you have anything you hold close to your heart?
Speaker 1: I know you're a Bears fan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh yeah, I like I like getting I
Speaker 2: like having pictures. So I try to get pictures with
Speaker 2: you know, people from time to time that you know,
Speaker 2: UH have up in the office. Never been a big
Speaker 2: autograph guy. Uh once in a while if I've like
Speaker 2: you know, they when Kentucky won the title in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: You never know if you'll if there will be more
Speaker 2: than one of those that you get to call. So
Speaker 2: h Thomas Bisner, He's actually snapped a picture of me
Speaker 2: interviewing Cal on the court, and so I got Cal
Speaker 2: to sign that. So that's about the only thing I'll
Speaker 2: usually kind of get autographed is something like that where
Speaker 2: there's some significance to it, and then if I can
Speaker 2: have access to the person, get them to uh to
Speaker 2: sign it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a nice touch when Cal came
Speaker 1: out back to Rupperina and he had the program.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that rolled up joby just like Joe B.
Speaker 2: Somewhere I have I found I didn't. I wanted to
Speaker 2: find this during COVID when you know we're all going
Speaker 2: through old boxes. I know I have this somewhere of
Speaker 2: a game at Transylvania Basketball Game. Used to go to
Speaker 2: a lot of Trancy games in the early seventies. They
Speaker 2: were really good and they had the Trancy tip Off
Speaker 2: program and it was just a one page fold over
Speaker 2: of the lineups for each team, but on the cover
Speaker 2: there'd be a picture of the coach maybe and Eightolf
Speaker 2: Rupp happened to be at the game and Tom Hammond
Speaker 2: was called in the game for Channel eighteen. And so
Speaker 2: I have eight off up and Tom Hammond on the
Speaker 2: program where I got autographs at that time. So I've
Speaker 2: got that somewhere. I've got to find it.
Speaker 1: I got to meet Tom the other day when we
Speaker 1: were at that we were in an event together. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: it was and you were there as well. And that
Speaker 1: was when they had the celebrity guests. I guess they
Speaker 1: had a little pin and they I don't know how
Speaker 1: I got invited to be a celebrity guest Tom, but
Speaker 1: I got to meet Tom Hammond that day.
Speaker 2: He's been very kind of me. He's a good friend,
Speaker 2: and he's one of the all time greats. I mean,
Speaker 2: do you think if you know somebody who's that was
Speaker 2: growing up here are aspiring to get into this business.
Speaker 2: And you can listen to Kaywood Leadford and Ralph Hacker
Speaker 2: in the Kentucky Games and Marty Brennaman and Joe Nucks
Speaker 2: all the Red game, the Reds games, and then Tom
Speaker 2: Hammond who went from LA X to NBC. All you
Speaker 2: just that's who you had access to on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: I think it was an adoption event if okay, that's
Speaker 1: what it was, but I can't remember the name. Let's
Speaker 1: go back to the phones though. Scott is next up,
Speaker 1: ready to go. What's up, Scott?
Speaker 3: Good morning?
Speaker 6: Come on, guys, just this quick thing. I grew up
Speaker 6: listening to Kwood and with Nick man of his and yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, man whoever takes over, it's a lot of
Speaker 6: mixed shoes to field and uh let I think you
Speaker 6: have done uh bother beyond expectations. I think uh Kwood
Speaker 6: would be proud to have you followed behind it.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. Kaywood was very kind. I
Speaker 2: got fortunate to have worked around him a little bit
Speaker 2: and got a couple to of my prize possessions, which
Speaker 2: at you know, things you collect or whatever. I have
Speaker 2: two critiques that Kaywood did for me, one one handwritten
Speaker 2: and one type written. One one is from eighty seven
Speaker 2: after doing some Sweet sixteen games, and one is ninety seven,
Speaker 2: my first year doing Kentucky football.
Speaker 3: Do you remember any of the critiques like, well, I.
Speaker 2: Told you one of them, you know, short simple questions.
Speaker 2: Let the coach, you know, answer. There were things like
Speaker 2: in football, this is just one thing of how you
Speaker 2: know in football you're gonna set the play up how
Speaker 2: many times? You know each team, maybe Aspire is going
Speaker 2: to get sixty play maybe one hundred and twenty five times.
Speaker 2: You're going to set in a three hour broadcast, set
Speaker 2: the play. You know, cats come up to the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Two receivers to the right, three to the left.
Speaker 2: He said, to occasionally break that up and to work
Speaker 2: in a few different names occasionally. You know. It's like,
Speaker 2: think Drake Jackson's a center that comes to mind. Drake Jackson,
Speaker 2: the center from right here in Kentucky leads them up
Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage. Three receivers to the left too.
Speaker 2: It's a different way to kind of just break up
Speaker 2: the monotony of saying the same thing one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty five times and working in a different name, little thing.
Speaker 2: It was little things like that that separate, you know,
Speaker 2: somebody like Kywood from being good or very good and
Speaker 2: being great.
Speaker 1: Painting the picture a very different job than what a
Speaker 1: television play by play announcer has to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got to be the eyes and ears for these fans.
Speaker 2: But thank you for the company.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Scott. It's got to be nice to
Speaker 3: hear things like that.
Speaker 2: I very nice. That's always very nice. And it's I
Speaker 2: mean for me to say, you know, well, it's just
Speaker 2: very nice to hear a compliment that somebody also that
Speaker 2: grew up listening to Kaywood. I will also say that
Speaker 2: I had a very good fortune of being the guy
Speaker 2: that followed the guy that followed Gaywood.
Speaker 3: Yes, you never want to be the guy after that.
Speaker 2: My friend Bob Castling just retired down to Tennessee. He
Speaker 2: had to follow John Ward immediately. That's the toughest spot
Speaker 2: to be. In the same way with coaches, you know, uh.
Speaker 2: And I always thought whoever followed Cali Perry, I always
Speaker 2: thought would needed to be like Tubby followed Rick was
Speaker 2: a different kind of personality, but tremendous coach in his
Speaker 2: own right, but just a different personality. It would be
Speaker 2: hard to out Putino Patino or out cal cal if
Speaker 2: you're the follow the next coach that follows and Mark
Speaker 2: Pope's the perfect guy. Would he is? You know, if
Speaker 2: you could put what you want in a Kentucky coach. Obviously,
Speaker 2: time will tell. He's got to, you know, rack up
Speaker 2: the wins. But in terms of understanding the fan base
Speaker 2: and also being very competent at the job, but just
Speaker 2: understanding everything that goes with it, because there it is
Speaker 2: a lot more than just coaching basketball, and uh, you
Speaker 2: know Mark Stoops has come to understand that in football
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just go to Tuscaloosa and ask is it calein divorce? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what it's like in the pressure from a fan
Speaker 1: base after you follow again and.
Speaker 2: Nick Saven's still there. Yeah, he's granted he's doing a
Speaker 2: lot of national stuff, but he's still I think still
Speaker 2: as an office.
Speaker 3: And I mentioned this on the show the other day.
Speaker 1: I think Joby Hall following Rup and Rupp doing a
Speaker 1: Collin show where he's you know, talking bad about.
Speaker 2: I don't know you did a calling. In fact, there
Speaker 2: weren't calling shows at that time. He did a coach
Speaker 2: a show, He did his show on w l e X,
Speaker 2: and then when Joe's started, he uh partnered with w
Speaker 2: k y T and so they had uh show, I
Speaker 2: don't think they were. I don't think they were head
Speaker 2: to head against each other. But yeah, I mean the
Speaker 2: other the guy you're following who didn't really want to leave,
Speaker 2: is still has his own show and his own office.
Speaker 3: That's so bizarre.
Speaker 2: And Joe obviously had tremendous respect for him for coach
Speaker 2: rupp uh and yet he wanted to carve out his
Speaker 2: own identity obviously, and Joe never really got it. Later
Speaker 2: in life he started to get some of the uh,
Speaker 2: you know, recognition that he deserved. But you think about
Speaker 2: following a legendary figure and then being able to win
Speaker 2: a championship and go to multiple final fours, and just
Speaker 2: ways that he, you know, changed the game and you
Speaker 2: know where there's weight training or some scouting things bringing
Speaker 2: on Leonard Hamilton is one of the first African America
Speaker 2: with the first African American assistant coach at the University
Speaker 2: of Kentucky and giving Leonard a prominent role and how
Speaker 2: that impacted future coaches down the line. And Oscar Combs
Speaker 2: has been a great champion of Leonard, who just retired
Speaker 2: being in the UK Athletics Hall of Fame, which I
Speaker 2: think is would be very much deserved but Joe was
Speaker 2: the guy who you know, uh brought Leonard into the program.
Speaker 2: Uh brought in you know, uh into fully integrated the program.
Speaker 2: Coach rep signed the first African American player. But Coach Hall,
Speaker 2: you know, brought in Goose and James Lead, Reggie Warford
Speaker 2: and Marion Haskins and Larry Johnson, just great players that then, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, did what needed to be should have been
Speaker 2: done long before at the UK, and Joe you know,
Speaker 2: didn't get enough credit for any of that.
Speaker 1: It's not easy to follow the guy, and it will
Speaker 1: not be easy whoever replaces Tom Leach many years down
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be different from k would you know then
Speaker 2: at time of you know, so many games, you used
Speaker 2: to listen to so many games it was your only option.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if you want to catch it on tape
Speaker 3: delay on TV later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember those days.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that these days.
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, Oh yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, handful of games, hardly any football games and
Speaker 2: then a handful of basketball games would be on TV.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe a third of the Kentucky games
Speaker 2: at most, so so many of them you just had
Speaker 2: to listen to follow the Cats.
Speaker 1: Well, as much as the SEC network poorly times Kentucky
Speaker 1: basketball games, it's almost like they're not on TV for
Speaker 1: a certain amount of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. We do get listeners forced to the
Speaker 2: the radio for a time at the start of games.
Speaker 2: I would I wish they would just plot the things
Speaker 2: two and a half hours. I need to fix it
Speaker 2: they do, you know in the postseason. Yeah, the postseason
Speaker 2: and the national championship game that you're started a half
Speaker 2: hour earlier. It was wonderful. Instead of starting at nine
Speaker 2: to twenty two like they used to do for so
Speaker 2: many me and you people had to wake up. They
Speaker 2: backed it up a half hour. And but in a
Speaker 2: national semifinal games they're plotted two and a half, two
Speaker 2: hours and forty five forty five apart, something like that,
Speaker 2: And it was great.
Speaker 3: Well that final four, say of the tournament.
Speaker 2: Now, we just need to fix replay.
Speaker 1: Oh, Tom, we don't have enough time for that topic, Tom.
Speaker 1: Some of the video reviews that we got this year,
Speaker 1: it was an interesting year of officiating too. Let's take
Speaker 1: a break. We've got one segment to go. We'll get
Speaker 1: to a couple more calls and we'll wrap this thing up.
Speaker 1: Here on the show before the show. It's the KSR
Speaker 1: pre Show.
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: It is the KSR pre Show, our final segment before
Speaker 1: Drew Palooza.
Speaker 3: I want to take a couple of calls before we
Speaker 3: end the show.
Speaker 1: Alvin is on the line. What's up, Alvin? You're with
Speaker 1: Tom and Billy here on the KSRP pre Show.
Speaker 6: Hey, how you going?
Speaker 5: Tom and Billy? Tom Leach, I want to command you
Speaker 5: for the great jobs you've done for Kentucky Basketball. Thank
Speaker 5: you Kentucky Football. Years of your votes has been very
Speaker 5: important for those two entities. But I did have a
Speaker 5: question for you. What would you think your friend, longtime
Speaker 5: co broadcast partner, the late great Mike Pratt, would think
Speaker 5: about nil and the transfer of portal. You knew him
Speaker 5: well because you were sad by sad for so many years.
Speaker 2: It was just starting to come in. The Mike's last
Speaker 2: season he was with us was the basketball season that
Speaker 2: ended in twenty two, and that was you know, that
Speaker 2: was Kellen, Grady and Mince and those guys. So they
Speaker 2: had some transfers. I know, Alvin. Mike's big concern, I
Speaker 2: think was how was it all going to affect the
Speaker 2: locker room? You know, could you maintain you know, a
Speaker 2: chemistry and maintain a team when you got agents involved,
Speaker 2: and so, I mean it works in professional sports. But
Speaker 2: that was one of the things w he talked about it.
Speaker 2: That was something he was going to be interested to
Speaker 2: see how that would play out. He didn't have any
Speaker 2: problem with guys, you know, getting paid so and you
Speaker 2: know it's just but how you know, could you do
Speaker 2: that and any other thing if we're talking about this
Speaker 2: with a Kayen and Lewis and we don't know why
Speaker 2: he you know, maybe it was money that motivated him
Speaker 2: to make his decision, but if it was playing time
Speaker 2: and any worry about playing time, Mike just always would
Speaker 2: get a kick out of, Okay, you're going somewhere else
Speaker 2: because you can't start here and you want to go
Speaker 2: to the NBA. It's like, if you can't start here,
Speaker 2: you're not going to the NBA.
Speaker 1: Right right, It's and this is just such a factory
Speaker 1: to the NBA.
Speaker 3: I mean, all eyes are on you. This would be
Speaker 3: the perfect place to hone your skills.
Speaker 2: I always there can be a situation. Will Levis's best
Speaker 2: example the transfer portal. Oh, where you know, as a
Speaker 2: quarterback you get buried on depth chart. You're never getting
Speaker 2: out of that hole. But Joe Burrow, another one, go
Speaker 2: somewhere else, and you get your chance to show what
Speaker 2: you can do. So there are situations where you know
Speaker 2: the player does need to move.
Speaker 3: On Zach Calzada.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 1: I also think of another broadcast partner of yours, and yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, Alvin of Jack Gibvens, and how he could
Speaker 1: have cashed in a little bit if An.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, yeah, Logan Gold.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think about after you know, that game in
Speaker 2: say Lewis in seventy eight. But yeah, I mean Goose,
Speaker 2: James Lee, local you know Kentucky guys, Lexington guys, Yeah.
Speaker 3: John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, in these bigger than live characters with
Speaker 1: this fan base, it had been Weedipi's two point zero.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt. Tom. I really enjoyed the time. Thank
Speaker 3: you again for joining me this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always fun. We'll do it when Shannon takes
Speaker 2: his next vacation.
Speaker 1: Well next week we got yeah, exactly, it'll be around
Speaker 1: the corner. I think, thank you to everybody that's joined
Speaker 1: me this week here on the KSR pre Show, Shannon
Speaker 1: should be back next Monday. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: fun show with Drew Franklin on the final day of
Speaker 1: Drew Palooza. I believe the Mayor of Lexington's going to
Speaker 1: be joining us, so excited for that as well. For
Speaker 1: Tom Leach on Billy Retis. This has been the KSR
Speaker 1: pre show. We'll talk to you on Monday.