1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Afrotech Conference is back and return to eighth Town, Houston, Texas, 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: from October twenty seventh through thirty first, twenty twenty five 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: at the George R. Brown Convention Center. For years, Afrotech 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: has been to go to experience for black tech innovators, founders, engineers, 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: creators and investors. In twenty twenty five is shaping up 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: to be the biggest year yet, though with fortyzery tenees expected. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: This year's conference will feature five days of dynamic programming 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: across six curator stages from discovery to executive leadership. 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Dot Com Black Tech Green Money will Lucas 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: here back the other one. This one I'm excited about 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: because most of this audience you may not know who 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: he is, but I guarantee your kids want to be him. 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: I guarantee that Rod's on the show today. Gen Z's 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: next streaming phenomenon. Two million followers in counting, including a 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: dedicated almost half a million. It might be half a 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: million by now Twitch subscribers, but Rod's on the show. 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show man. 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate you will so how you feeling. 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. It's good to have you. And I'm 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: so excited about this conversation because you are you are 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: in a position so many people want to be in 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: by having a large online following. And I want to 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: talk about the early days of streaming, because earlier days 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: of your streaming, because not everybody you don't just start 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: with half a million Twitch followers like you got to 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: grow that. And you've been creating content for more than 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: seven years now. And so in those early days of 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, having small numbers two people watching or no 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: people watching, to ten people watching to ten to people watching, 38 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: what kept you consistent in what did you do in 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: order to grow the audience? 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: What really kept me consistent is really my ability to 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: not do it for the money. Like when you're growing 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: up and you're looking for tips and stuff, you know 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: a lot of people say, like, you know, you can't 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: do it for the money, and you don't understand it 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: until you like get in that position. A lot of 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: people see like the end product, they see the end result, 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: they see like where I'm at now, and they be like, nah, 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: let me get to it. And then after a month 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: of like not being where I'm at now, it's like, Yo, 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: it's not working. It's like it's not working for what 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: you desire. But it is working because you went from 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: zero to ten. You made your first. You feel me 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: you made your first. You multiplied it. You feel me 54 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: like you had one and then it was ten people 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: and then it's gonna be twenty five and fifty. So 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: I just kept going because I genuinely like making people 57 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: laugh and making good content, Like I like thinking that 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: I'm creative, more creative than other creators and making the 59 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: better content. 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm competitive too. 61 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like too many people give up 62 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: too soon on their streaming dreams. 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: A lot of people give up too soon, and that's 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: the reason it's not oversaturated. A lot of people think 65 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: stream oversaturated is not because most people don't give up. 66 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: So what what would you say to somebody who's been 67 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: on YouTube for you know, let's say two years, and 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: they've been maybe posting every two weeks and they're like, 69 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: they're still hitting you know, three views, you know on 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: those on those videos, and I maybe it at some 71 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: point is like maybe the content to them is interesting 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: or maybe they're not doing something right on how you 73 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: use these platforms, What would you say to somebody who's 74 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: been using it for years posting at least consistently, maybe 75 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: not the most that they could be posting. They could 76 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: be posting more often, but they should not see any 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: growth mm. 78 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: I would say, make a checklist of things that you 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: know should be done to take your stream or your 80 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: content to the next level, and just ask yourself if 81 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: you got all of that. And then a lot of 82 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: people like to downplay those steps, like I'll ask streamers like, 83 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: you know, are you still streaming off? For webcam? Webcam 84 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: is fifty dollars, so it's a good entry level. But 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: like we to the point where everybody has cameras now, 86 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: so do somebody want to really click in and see 87 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: a webcam stream in twenty twenty five, you know, like, 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: is your audio bad? Did you upgrade your equipment? Are 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: you investing in yourself when the last time you stepped 90 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: outside your house? And then what was the idea? 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: Right there? 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: I would say, keep looking at your old video and 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: try to beat that. I was just telling my friend 94 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: that You're like, how do you come up with new ideas? 95 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: And I was like, they just refined versions of my 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: like past failures, so like stuff that didn't work and 97 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: stuff that may have worked, but it didn't work on 98 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: a scale that I'm trying to achieve now, like it 99 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: may have gotten me two thousand subs, but now, like 100 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: I did last month, I'm going for thirty thousand. 101 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: So that ain't gonna work. 102 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: So let's refine it, you know, So just keep finding 103 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: your word, keep upgrading, because it's not the best word. 104 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: The best word could be viral. It ain't the best word. 105 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: It's not what you just. 106 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: Said reminded me of. It's not a quote, but it's 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: a statement by Will Smith, and he was talking about 108 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: he was on his way to get an oscar, his 109 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: first oscar, and he was talking about how he went 110 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: back to the history of movies and like looked at 111 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: all the movies that have the lead actor winning an oscar, 112 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: and he realized it was like when you portray somebody else, 113 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: and so he was like, Okay, I'm gonna go play 114 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: somebody else. So he got Muhammad Ali and that's when 115 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: he won his oscar. So what you're saying is what 116 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: I hear you saying, is like you really got to 117 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: watch the game tape, watch the film and go back 118 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: and research your own stuff. 119 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: Yes, research your own stuff. And if once you learn 120 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: how to research your own stuff, research other streamers and 121 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: see what they do good that you don't do, it's 122 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: very it's very good to study the competition, Like it's 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: good to study the competition because you need to know 124 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: like what other streamers are doing that you just because 125 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: if you feel like you're the best, what are they 126 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: doing that you're not? You see what I'm saying, Like, 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: obviously it's something and it's real. It's real easy to 128 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: feel like bad for yourself in the content game and 129 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: be like, yo, it's just not working and it's just. 130 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: An excuse one of the tactics that I don't want 131 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: to blow pass. But you mentioned it a second ago 132 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: in how people are investing in themselves and where they're shooting. 133 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: You talked about how like the change of location. So 134 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: I learned by watching other YouTubers particularly talk about you know, 135 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: when you walk from room to room in the video, 136 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: that makes it interesting, like behind it that the scenery 137 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: is changing. So can you talk more about like those 138 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: tactical things you can do to make just the visuals 139 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: more entertaining. 140 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So as far as streaming, I'm a translated to 141 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 3: streaming because that's my forte. But like even my background, 142 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: I won't have my background the same too long because 143 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: then it becomes like, yeah, we want it to be 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: engraved in their mind that this is Rid's room that 145 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: he's streaming in. But maybe sometimes we want to theme it, 146 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: and then maybe we want whole new emotes in the chat, 147 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: and then maybe we want to stay in that room 148 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: for twenty minutes and have them think they're staying in 149 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: that room and they're walking the hallway and they never 150 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: saw my hallway. So even if I'm talking about the 151 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: same thing I was gonna talk about in my room, 152 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: it's now moving now, so it's just a little more 153 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: interesting and they feel like they're going on a journey 154 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: rather than you know, sitting still and maybe when I 155 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: go into that hallway, it's a special guest in the hallway. 156 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: And instead of bringing the special guests in the room 157 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: like we do every single time, we got them in 158 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: the hallway. And when we go downstairs, we're gonna cook, 159 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: and we never cooked, and we're not gonna eat the 160 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: food back in the room. We're gonna eat in the 161 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: backyard where I got cheers set up and stuff like that. 162 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: So it just take you on a journey. You gotta 163 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: think if you're watching something, if you're watching a TV show, 164 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: imagine a TV show being in the same spot. Every 165 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: actor come in the same room and everything is happening 166 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: in the same spot. 167 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: It would be boring. It'd be boring. 168 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: So like it's a thing where it's like, you know, 169 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: you definitely want to get their eyes moving and adjusting 170 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: to like new settings and new characters. And it don't 171 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: even got to be the most famous. Ain't gotta be drink. 172 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: But even if it's your brother, they never met your brother, 173 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: and the way your brother act ain't how you act. 174 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: And that's a new character to your stream. 175 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: That's a new character you know that they know you 176 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: for and that's somebody that only you can bring on 177 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: to the thing, and that just give an opportunity to 178 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: the people around you to become a part of your 179 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: world and all that. 180 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: How do you encourage people who are new to streaming, 181 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: new to video at all, you know, new to showing 182 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: themselves online, how to get comfortable doing it? 183 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: How to get comfortable I think you gotta definitely get 184 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: comfortable with I started with YouTube, so I got comfortable 185 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: talking to that camera first before I even got to, 186 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: you know, to the point where I'm at. And I've 187 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: never been shy, so I'm kind of blessed out god, 188 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: but I've never been shy to like be on the 189 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: stage talking to people or be in front of that 190 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: bunch of people where I have a lot of people 191 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: in the stream because I was talking to myself on 192 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: the video and you just got to watch that, and 193 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: a lot of people cringe when they hear their own voice, 194 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: or like they find it weird when they talk to 195 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: the video. But you got to think how you think 196 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: actors feel when they on set repeating the same line, 197 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 3: and it's just a bunch of behind the scenes people 198 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: watching you and critiquing you all day. It's like, it's 199 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: not an easy job, but that's what you sign up for. 200 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: So I would just encourage people to, you know, before 201 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: they hop on their live stream, practice on video, just 202 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: talking like Yo, what's up y'all? 203 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: Dade, and whatever. 204 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: You want to do and whatever you're gonna be doing, 205 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: just practice that because practice make perfect And it might 206 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: not seem like it helped, but it really it really 207 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: do help a lot. Just to give yourself a mental 208 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: note of all right, that's what I'm be saying. 209 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: This is what I'm be doing and this stuf vibe 210 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: I want to give. And if you're studying your. 211 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,359 Speaker 3: Opponent, like we talk about earlier, are you studying the competition, 212 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: you can see like, okay, this how comfortable they is? 213 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: Let me relax, you know what I mean? 214 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: Relax maybe over here on this podcast he's super last, 215 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: mean that real quick, let me lean that, Yo, what's 216 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: up y'all? And then you just start getting your groove, 217 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 3: you know, you just start getting your grooving. 218 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: But it's it definitely takes practice. 219 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: So anybody just starting definitely practice offline on their camera 220 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: and watch your videos back and don't don't be cringed 221 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: by yourself as you. 222 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: I'll just take that step further. You know, shooting in public. 223 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Like, so you walking through the mall, 224 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: you're walking through the grocery store, and now you got 225 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: people looking at you like what is what is that? 226 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: So talk about how you get comfortable doing that? 227 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: Okay, as far as that out, that's a that's a 228 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: bigger that's a bigger hurdle to jump over because a 229 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: lot of people be like super like subconscious, like yo, 230 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: they're watching me, according me, and they're like they hear 231 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: me talk to nobody, But I really I don't. I don't. 232 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: I don't personally be caring because they'd be like, yo, 233 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: just real people live. Especially with the stream it's like yo, 234 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: just live people right here watching, you know. And and 235 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: I tell a lot of streamers that I'll be telling 236 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: them like, yo, these these not real somebody if they 237 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 3: crib got you pulled up, and if they say like yo, 238 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: ride go into this store right here, and be like 239 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: all right, bro, I'm going into this story and I'm 240 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: having a conversation with that person that's a real human being. 241 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: So you know, when I'm in public, it's a thing 242 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: where it's like there's real people. 243 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: And if somebody, you know, feel some. 244 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: Type of way because you're talking to real people, like 245 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: they got to check theyself, you know. Like so in 246 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: order to get comfortable with that, I think you just 247 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: gotta you look key, You got to get into your 248 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: own world. Like a lot of us creators, we be 249 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: in our own world when we go into these malls 250 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 3: or like we going to these places. I'm walking past 251 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: people without looking at them. I'm looking at the camera 252 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: before I'm either looking at them. I'm walking past. Yo, y'all, 253 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: we gotta go into this story. We're gonna get this stuff. 254 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: And there's people around me and they hear me and 255 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: they see me talking to the camera. It's like, yo, 256 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty five. They gotta mind their business. We 257 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: got to lock in and do our job and entertain 258 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: We can't be worrying about them. 259 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: And one of the things we talk about, like particularly 260 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: like in software development, is like who are you building for? 261 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: So like there's this avatar of a person, there's this 262 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, I miss make this up, Like there's this 263 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: twenty five year old black woman in Detroit who this 264 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: product is for? And then everything I'm doing is designed 265 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: to speak to that avatar of a person. So when 266 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: you are streaming, are you thinking about a person on 267 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: the other side of that Kim, or are you thinking 268 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: about the audience or who are you thinking about? 269 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: Always I stream, I me personally. 270 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: I stream for the person that want to do content, 271 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: but they feel like, yo, like this might not work 272 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: or this can't work. And a lot of times my 273 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: team they'd be like, yo, you're a motivational speaker too, 274 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: outside of a streamer. And it was a lot of 275 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: times during my subathign I just did with the mall 276 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: where I was talking to chat and I'm like, yo, 277 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: like we're gonna hit the goal out of that, And 278 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: I'm talking to them, I'm letting them know, like all 279 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: the outside noises, outside noise, we already got fifteen thousand subs, 280 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: that's fifteen thousand people who dropped us up. That costs money. 281 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: That's fifteen thousand of them. So I'm letting them know, 282 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: like we just got to double it one more time. 283 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: We halfway there. And my point of saying that is 284 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: like I'm letting them know, like you know, a lot 285 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: of times when we're younger, were thinking like, oh, these 286 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 3: people got here this way or this way this way, 287 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: and I'm letting them know like I'm from Philly, I'm here, 288 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: you ain't gotta do you ain't gotta do all that. 289 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: So that so my audience, you know, when I be 290 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: giving back to them, it's like a lot of teams 291 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: or sometimes I be even having people that's twenty three, 292 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty five in my chat, and I 293 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 3: be letting them know, like it's not too late for 294 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: y'all either, So I stream for them. I tell them like, 295 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: this is the safe place for you to come. Know 296 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,239 Speaker 3: that you could do it too, get some game, be entertained. 297 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: And I think like a lot of streamers feed like 298 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: brain rot. So I be letting them know, like yo, 299 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: like you're gonna learn something here as well as laughing. 300 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: So this is this is this is where you come 301 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: where you want to be entertained and you're gonna learn 302 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: something and you're gonna get motivated. And I'm gonna let 303 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: you know what's really going on this the real real. 304 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious on how there's a little bit of 305 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: a difference between YouTubers and streamers and and some of 306 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: this is show business, like you know, you can plan 307 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: to have this person pop up and plan for this 308 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: thing to happen. But I'm curious on how you balance. Well, 309 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Number one, let's start with how much of this is 310 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: actually show business to where you Okay, on minute thirteen, 311 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna pop in and do this thing, and it's gonna. 312 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: Be one. 313 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: Me personally, I'm a pure streamer. So anybody who knows too, kay, 314 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: you know, it's different builds, it's different archetypes, it's different 315 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: attributes that certain streamers are good at. A lot of 316 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: streamers not good at click and start and not having 317 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: no plan. I'm really good at that because before we're 318 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: streaming at as right now, the bigger streamers got it 319 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: to a point where people feel like you got to 320 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: put on the biggest shelf. But like, stream wasn't always 321 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: like this, and Twitch's been around for more than ten years. 322 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: So ten years ago, streaming was I come, I said, 323 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: at my desktop, I play games with my communit, I 324 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: go surf the web with my community. We laugh, y'all 325 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: love me for me. I give y'all name, and we 326 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: are army, and y'all love me for me. And that 327 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: was called desktop streaming. So now we got stuff like 328 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: I r L and that's when we're moving around and 329 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: we and were creating a show want to go. So 330 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: a pure streamer is really good at desktop sitting there 331 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: and being able to talk to his community and entertain 332 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: him without all the all the extra stuff. And I've 333 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: been just my fourth year streaming, but I've been doing 334 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: content period for six seven years. So with this being 335 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: my fourth year streaming, that that first year I joined, 336 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: that was the last year of the desktop era. 337 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: So I'm glad I got in right there. 338 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: Because right now, if you sit down and you try 339 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: to just talk to niggas and I'm like, what I'm 340 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: going to watch? 341 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: Cas? You got zebras broom? You know, so you like 342 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: you sitting there, You're like damn. 343 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: But like it's good to be a pure streamer because 344 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: now even if I do got it set up right 345 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: with the show biz too, like are you gonna come 346 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: in here? I was starting to be like I always 347 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: start and I say, yo, I want the first twenty 348 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: to thirty minutes being me just talking to my chat, 349 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: no plan, no nothing, y'all. Here's the new announcements, this 350 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: is what's coming up. This is why you should stay 351 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: here today because this is the schedule. Today, what's been 352 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: going on in the streamer world, which I want me 353 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: to react to who said what? And I want to 354 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: talk to them and I know their names and all 355 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: of that because I want them to know. 356 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: Like you know, when you and somebody chat and you're like, yo, 357 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: what's up? Ride? 358 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: If you say what's up back? You lost them for 359 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: the next thirty minutes. Oh snat ryde, So what's up back? 360 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm propping that phone up. So I'm real big on 361 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: community because within Twitch it's a community based thing. It is, 362 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: and a lot of people don't think it's community based. 363 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: They just entertain And you look at chat like something 364 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: that's supposed to be there. They're not supposed to be there. 365 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: They're not supposed to watch you. That's not a thing 366 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: people get too spoil you. You gotta talk to them 367 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: and you got to respond to them because they dare 368 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: to watch you. So I be like remembering their names 369 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: and all that, Like I know probably over two hundred 370 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: names of just people who've been supporting me for more 371 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: than three years, Like i'd be like, yo, what's up. 372 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: I call it a rule. 373 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: Carp I said, let's take a ten today, man, who 374 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: we're here and then a lot of new people see 375 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 3: me talking to the people who have already been there, 376 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: and they be like, oh, I want to be in 377 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: that position. So it's a community beast thing. So you know, 378 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: after that thirty minutes, boom show biz. You know, my 379 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: guests come in. I already know what I want to 380 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: do with my guests. After they league, I'm right back 381 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: to desktop. Ride Yo, what game we playing? 382 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: What we're doing? What y'all want to do? 383 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: Yeah? 384 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: Are we on this game now? I'm tired of this game? 385 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: And you gotta also remember this my stream you feel me. 386 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: They be, oh, no, let's stay on the game for 387 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: two hours. They don't get addicted to the game. We 388 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: off the game. Come on, we got to do this now. 389 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: So the show biz part would kind of just be 390 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: one part of the day. If I'm doing the Southern 391 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: thing and I'm streaming twenty four hours a day for 392 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: thirty days, I probably got one thing playing for as 393 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: far as like just being over extra and having that 394 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: entertainment actor. 395 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: Other than that, I'm a pure streamer. 396 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: How often do you need to be streaming to make 397 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: sure that you know? I don't know how to twitch? 398 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: Algorithm works like YouTube? You need to be on there 399 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: a lot for to show your stuff. 400 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: You need to be on there more with Twitch. Wow, 401 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: you need to be on there more with Twitch. If 402 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: you average one hundred viewers, disappear for a month and 403 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: you're gonna come back to thirty Wow. Yeah, you can't 404 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: take that much of a break because that would just 405 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: find another streamer they like, and then when you spark 406 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: back up in a month, damn, like oh snap, he back. 407 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: I remember I used to watch his streams and it's like, 408 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: Nigga's been thirty days now, you know, and they're like, 409 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: it have been thirty days. But yeah, you got to 410 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 3: be even more consistent like them YouTube. If you got 411 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: to post three times a week on YouTube, you need 412 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: to stream about five times on Twitch. And that don't mean, 413 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: you know, ten hour streams, but at least two to 414 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: three hours to show them like hey I'm still alive, 415 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 3: come shoot me from love. 416 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know. I talked often on this show about 417 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: like this like content pyramid, Like you can take a video, 418 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: take out the audio. Now you got audio podcast, transcribe it. 419 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: Now you got to blog, you know what I'm take 420 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: clips of it? Now you got an Instagram post. Talk 421 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: to me about like how you create multiple pieces of 422 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: content from one piece of content. 423 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: Mm hm okay. 424 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: So when I'm sitting there, I'm streaming, that's one piece 425 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: right there. We're just gonna count it down. That's one 426 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: piece of content right there. Then I got people in 427 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: my chat who want people to see the funny moments 428 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: of me, so they will clip it and they'll put 429 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: it on TikTok, and that's another form. And then personally 430 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 3: on my Instagram, I want I want my people to 431 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: see my stuff, the people that follow me for me, 432 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: because they might they algorithm on TikTok may not be ride, 433 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: So I still need them to see that clip. And 434 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: a lot of people think once the clip is up somewhere, 435 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: that is up everywhere. 436 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: It's not. 437 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: It need to be everywhere if that's something you want 438 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: people to see. So if I want people to see 439 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: me in a bad flip, it's going on Twitter's going 440 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: on the Instagram, it's going on TikTok, end's going on 441 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 3: the YouTube shorts, which is four different things, and you'll 442 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: see different contents on different things, And I know what 443 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: works for each audience. My Instagram, they like, they like, 444 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 3: they like boxing, they like wrapping. They like me doing 445 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: their devil stuff. TikTok, you could give them some verbal stuff. 446 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't really put me speaking on something verbally. And 447 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: it's funny on Instagram because that's more of an older 448 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 3: crowd slash a crowd that know me, you feel me. 449 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 3: I may got some of the teams from the Twitch, 450 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: but you gotta know the difference. So that's already two pieces. 451 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: But I may clip this specific clip right here for Instagram. 452 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: So I had try to recreate the Sea quon Berkeley 453 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 3: jump and I hit my egg so that I'm like, Okay, 454 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: Instagram wonna love that cause I got I got a 455 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: big Philly following, so they gonna they gonna see that. 456 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: And I clipped that personally because ain't nobody clip it 457 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: for me over there on TikTok you feel me? So boom, 458 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: Then to go to the Instagram. Then right after that YouTube, 459 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: I got a ride live page where they clipped the 460 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: whole vide of what I did today and they clip 461 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: it into many segments. 462 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: So just from streaming and. 463 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: I might have been streaming for five hours, you know, 464 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: I didn't hit TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Twitch, and I may 465 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 3: go on Twitter and point them in the right direction 466 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: to all those platforms. 467 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: Love that. Let's talk about money for a second. So 468 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: you're got a big audience, and how did you learn 469 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: the value of your voice, your presentation of products or 470 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: brands or et cetera, to where you can not only 471 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: leverage it for yourself but also get endorsements get money 472 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: coming in from other sources. 473 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: It's crazy because as a person who who does it 474 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: like you know, you know the word industry play, and 475 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: people be like yo, like you just popped out of nowhere, 476 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: Like as a person who does it strictly from like 477 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: if I do nothing, I get nothing. So I'll be 478 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: telling like my team I got, like my sister, I 479 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 3: got like a real family on into business. I put 480 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: people in position to like I teach them and then 481 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: like I put them in position so so with the 482 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 3: way I run it, I'd be letting them know, like 483 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: if I don't lock in and be the captain and 484 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 3: point us in the right direction, we don't make any cheese, 485 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 3: Like we don't make no money, don't go up. It 486 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: was really hard to get endorsements, you know, And I 487 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: was seeing people who like signed to little agencies and 488 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: just do TikTok and I'm like, yo, I got three 489 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: hundred k on Sicktock, I got three hundred k on Twitch, 490 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: I got seven hundred k on here, and I got 491 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: this over there. I'm I'm everywhere while I got no endorsements, 492 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: and you know, you really need those people to reach 493 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 3: out for you. So my first, my first endorsement was 494 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: Shopify and that's a really big one, and they gave 495 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: us a million dollars to give out to people, you know, 496 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: to my supporters. 497 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: So it went from you know, nothing, not even though. 498 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: You know, just hold the bottle on the jont, hold 499 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 3: the biodo on the video, we give you this, or 500 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: a commission based thing. And you know, I was really 501 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: dodging any of the ones that didn't make sense. But 502 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 3: that was my first one, and it really translated over 503 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: with those numbers once you once you show a company like, hey, 504 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: this is what I could do for you, and these 505 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: are these are my numbers, and a lot of times 506 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 3: they not looking for us. So you gotta you gotta 507 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: go to their face and say, yo, like this is 508 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: what it is. And any anybody that's watching it's not 509 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: familiar with a deck you want to make a deck 510 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: and that's just a presentation on why they should fuck 511 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: with you. 512 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: And she had your numbers on there. Who you are? 513 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: You know, do do the who? What, where? 514 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: Why? 515 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: And do that on that deck and you show them 516 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: that and you say, Yo, this why you should come, 517 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: you know, fuck with me. 518 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: And then you know you're going. 519 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: You're going, You're gonna miss a lot of the times, 520 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: but you know somebody gonna pick it up and you 521 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: show them like you you think your sponsors overly, you 522 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 3: overly think your sponsors. And I got a lot of 523 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: the knowledge on like you know how to treat your 524 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: sponsors and show them that love and read like get 525 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: into a new deal and re up with them from 526 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: my man's widow. 527 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: So shout out wildlow. 528 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: Yeah he taught same game. Also shout yeah Yeah. I 529 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 1: was out in Atlanta. We were there for something and 530 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: he hit was like breakfast. He hit me, was like, yo, 531 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: what you're doing. I'm like, I'm just about to go 532 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: to the hotel you breakfast. He's like, come to my hotel, 533 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: sit out, he said, down and his hotel dining room. 534 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: He gave me like the whole blueprint. 535 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, he's with me, like, let's 536 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: grab lunch. 537 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: And so yeah, like, at what point are you big 538 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: enough to get sponsors? Like if I've got you know, 539 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: X number, Like, at what point in your estimation it's like, okay, 540 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: you're probably onto something where you should probably start talking 541 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: to people. 542 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. 543 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: I think it's really hard to gauge because we all 544 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: do different social medias. And I feel like everybody deserves 545 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: sponsorships because you got people that's that don't do anything 546 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: that I do. They only do TikTok, but they might 547 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: have like seven hundred k on there, and they be 548 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: having drink sponsorships and and and the girls be having 549 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: hair sponsorships, and you can have like you know, try 550 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: to food and and and it becomes this. I think 551 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: once you get to the point where you have your 552 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: own audience as far as like, I think once you 553 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: get into the thousands, and they got to be one 554 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: hundred thousand. But I think once it gets to the 555 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: point where it's like, you know, I got twenty thirty 556 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: k people watching me, start reaching out letting people know, like, hey, 557 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: I got a little army bond me. Let's work, you 558 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: feel me, Let's work. It ain't gotta be millions. It 559 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: ain't got to be hundreds of thousand, ain't got to 560 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 3: be fifty thousand. But I definitely don't think you should 561 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: hit people up when you got like five six thousand 562 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 3: people tapped into each jone because we in an era 563 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: where like a lot of people are posting random stuff 564 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 3: and they're getting good views from it, and they might 565 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 3: look more appealing, they might look more appealing to the 566 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: brands then you look. 567 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: So consistent numbers is the best thing. 568 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: So if you could say, hey, I've been doing these 569 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: numbers for six months to guarantee them that, hey, when 570 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: we work for this next month, we already know what 571 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: it is. And if you could show them like, hey, 572 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: six months before that, it was lower, but it was 573 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: still consistent. So I think a consistent twenty thousand views 574 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: on your YouTube videos or like you know, like get 575 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: tiptops is getting over fifteen K, ten K, seventeen k 576 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 3: and it's twenty k. It's like, yo, I could promote 577 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 3: your food, you feel me, I could eat that y'all 578 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: real quick. Y'all give me a little check and then 579 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: I do this and that and you know, whatever deliverables 580 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: y'all work out. I think anything over twenty k average, 581 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: which just should be fairly easy to do if you're 582 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: consistent for more than like six months. 583 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: What is in Ron's edc your everyday carry, like, besides 584 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: your phone, what is the thing before you leave a house, 585 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: before you leave the apartment, before you leave a crib. 586 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: I've got to have this thing on me or I 587 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: just don't even feel right. 588 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, my whole streaming bag. I just be my whole 589 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: streaming bag with my camera. I just be feel like 590 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 3: I can't be lacking. I feel like, as a top streamer, 591 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 3: you gotta have your streaming stuff with me, like with you. 592 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: So even if I go, like on a trip to 593 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: another state and I don't plan on streaming, I didn't 594 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: plan anything, I want to just have that. 595 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: So I just have that. 596 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: A really nice cologne. Got to have a really nice cologne. 597 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: I like Alixurs and you feel me. I grabbed me 598 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: one of licks here my streaming bag. Going through the 599 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: airport be hectic. I grabbed my ski masks just in 600 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: case I'm in places because I'm I'm I'm I'm to 601 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: the point where i'd be seeing people, you know, spending 602 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: money like they like they super olt rich. I'm like 603 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: I ain't supero to rich, like put this ski mask 604 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: on it and maneuver real quick. I know people gonna 605 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 3: notice me, but you know, I throw my ski masks 606 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 3: on real quick. And in my book bag. I always 607 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 3: have my streaming bag with my camera, you know, so 608 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: that's the modem that you need to stream off. That's 609 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: the camera, that's all the wires, my lixir. What else, 610 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: I have my ski mask, what I carry around. I've 611 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: been having my passport with me. 612 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: What else? And that's Oh and. 613 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 3: I'll bring one book with me. 614 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: So right now I'm reading Who Not How that's just yeah, yes, 615 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: that's agreed. 616 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: But that helped me build my team. That's that's helping 617 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: me build my Yeah, that's a great book. So I'll 618 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: carry one book just on the airplane, like let me 619 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: get a chapter in, you know, I mean I'll be 620 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 3: telling people you ain't got power, you ain't got to 621 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: finish the book. Just give it a chapter whenever you 622 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: remember to read your book. So I bring a book 623 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: just just so I don't feel like I'm lacking on 624 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: the knowledge tip because I be feeling like that's my 625 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: edge that I got on the other streamers. 626 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: That's a fantastic book. That's a fantastic probably did the 627 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: Audible three or four times. 628 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: It's a fantastic bros. My that's my secondary read. That's 629 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: my secondary read. 630 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 3: Twelve week Year Psychology of Money, all of the all 631 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: of those books that just tell you about time management 632 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: and business. I'm like, I'm also a businessman, not just 633 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: a streamer. I'm building an empire. 634 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were part of Kin's Inaugurate with Streaming University. 635 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: Like what did what was your biggest takeaway? 636 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: Biggest takeaway? You canta give me the drop of gyms 637 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: because I'm keep. 638 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: Being I got I got, I got like an eye. 639 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: I got an eye for content. 640 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: So like being a part of it and seeing everything unravel, 641 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm just kind of like this nigga's a genius, Like 642 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: he's super smart, and you know as much as like 643 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: I'm super grateful for like that the half that I 644 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: was sitting there like yo, like disinspiring. 645 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: I need to turn it up, Like I need to 646 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: turn it up and. 647 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Turn how how does that? What do you mean? Like 648 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: more like I need to do more content or need 649 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: to like be more. 650 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: Better content, better content, not even more so, Like I 651 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 3: was just telling my friend this. I said, when you 652 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: get to the point where you're seeing the same views 653 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: every day, that's insanity. You need to stop and take 654 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: a step back and say what am I not doing right? Because, yes, 655 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: consistency is kid is probably the number one ingredient, but 656 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: I think quality quality of content is over that, and 657 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: I think. 658 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: I think people like Cory x Kenshin or like. 659 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: Super big podcasts that don't don't drop too often show 660 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: you that, yeah, we could rapid produce, and maybe we 661 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: did rapid produce when we first started, but once you 662 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: get to a certain point, it's like, Okay, I have 663 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: an audience. I need to feed them better food. Y'all 664 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: can't keep eating fast food. Fast food is just like yo, 665 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: I'm doing what I can. Now, let's get to a 666 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: point where you need to stop. I was telling, I said, 667 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: who's gonna do better? Somebody who's streaming three hundred and 668 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: sixty five days, right, And how much time do you 669 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: really got to plan that next day? If you got 670 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five days you stream every day, 671 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: or somebody who streamed three weeks out of the month, 672 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: and take that last week to just think what did 673 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: I do good. 674 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: On and what the fuck am I doing for the 675 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: next three weeks? 676 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: The person who sit there and stop, that's going to 677 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: do better because we do things like Subbathians where you 678 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: gotta stream thirty days. How you playing the subathifs and 679 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: if you gotta stream every day? How you reaching out 680 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: to those people. How you sitting there and saying, I'm 681 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: gonnavite this guest and then we're gonna do this and 682 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: order the supplies and tell your team what the coordination 683 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: gonna be, and this and that. Unless you got people 684 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: choosing it for you. And then at that point, it's 685 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: not a At that point, it's not a rag stream. 686 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: It's like a you know, it's something else. So like 687 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: it really you really need to, like it's insanity game. 688 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: You shouldn't be looking at the same numbers for like 689 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: a couple months, Like you should stop and like up 690 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: that quality. 691 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: So turn it up. 692 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: Just mean, like, okay, I see the scale of what 693 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: he doing things. Let me up my scale. Let's not 694 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: sit in a room and do bullshit. Let's let's get creative. 695 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: You know, everything hasn't been done, and if it has 696 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 3: been done, I'm gonna study it and I'm gonna repurpose it. 697 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: I think. I think the last one I have is, 698 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, there are so many people who want to 699 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: do this, but they don't live in like Philadelphia, New York, 700 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: or Chicago or in Atlanta. They feel like, you know, 701 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: they live in the city where it ain't a whole 702 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: lot going on. So what do you say about their 703 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: perspective on their ability to do this when they're not 704 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: in the biggest cities. 705 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell them that it is harder like that. 706 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: But it shouldn't be an excuse because now you got 707 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: the ability to tackle the direct task that you need 708 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: to be successful. What content, And it is being the content. 709 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: A lot of streamers only can be entertained, and if 710 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: they bring an extra on or if it's some pre 711 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: playing bullshit, and it kind of goes to the point 712 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: where I was saying earlier, where I was saying, I'm 713 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: a pure streamer. 714 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: You have to you have to be the entertainment. 715 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: You have to be the entertainment, or it's going to 716 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: get to the point where you need external things for 717 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: your stuff to be successful. And at that point you're 718 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 3: going to start getting upset that people don't pop out 719 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: for you, or people not texting you back, or this 720 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: is not happening. You need to have your own niche 721 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: in your own pocket that people like without anybody else, 722 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: and that's the golden thing. So you just you It 723 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: is harder because you got that golden puzzle that you 724 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: need to solve a sat that other people might not 725 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: because they might be a part of these communities or 726 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 3: these cities where you know, they got these little cheek codes, 727 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: but it's still the same playing field. They still got 728 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 3: to figure that out them themselves. If not now, later 729 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: I will tell them figure that out. Figure out how 730 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: to be that person. Because we got people who's sitting 731 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 3: at home playing Minecraft for roadblocks and they pulling more 732 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: views than both of us, and they making they make 733 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: it all this money. And because they they found a pocket. 734 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: They found the pocket. You gotta find that pocket. It's 735 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: kind of like rap, and it's not gonna be easy. 736 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: A lot of people think like it's gonna be Easy's 737 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 3: not gonna be easy. It's it's difficult. So like deal 738 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: with those trials and tribulations and find your find your pocket. 739 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: Of like, all right, just how I'm gonna entertain my people. 740 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: And if it's something that can't last long, then you 741 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: should only be streaming an hour a day until you 742 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: figure out how to add a thirty minute segment to 743 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: that and then keep building off it. And you only 744 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: got time to grow when you at the bottom because 745 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 3: ain't too many people watching. Once you get on a 746 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 3: magnifying glass and you do get bigger. You know, if 747 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: somebody like you boring the streamer word ain't gonna hesitate, 748 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 3: that'd be in the comments, like I. 749 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: Don't watch them he boring. All you do is this. 750 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: You know, they're gonna let you have it, and they 751 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 3: gonna come in and I'm leaving. 752 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 2: Rod just started his stream my mouth. 753 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: They say little stuff like that, and then it gets 754 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: you in your head like them, you know, so like 755 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 3: you know, before you get to that point with your 756 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: lower you ten, you lower you fifteen, start multiplying and 757 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: start building it up and start learning how your stream operates, 758 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: and when people come in, and if you get more people, 759 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: let them know, like, hey, this is how we operate, 760 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: and introduce them to your world instead of trying to 761 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: fit your world to the bigger numbers. 762 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, this audience is full of technologists, you know, venture capitalists, 763 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: investorseople in the career trajectory, founders entrepreneurs, like when you 764 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: speak to audiences like this or if you could for 765 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: this audience here today, kind of give them how you 766 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: view creating versus just being a user of apionment. 767 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: Well one, as a creator, I only try to consume 768 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 3: for the purpose of upgrading my creations. So I would 769 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 3: say definitely filter your consume your consumption. You know it's 770 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 3: cool to brows you feel me, everybody do a little 771 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 3: doom scrolling. But basically, like when you want to consume, 772 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 3: redirect your path to consume something that's going to help you, 773 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 3: and you'll you'll find it fun to do research. I'll 774 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: be telling people do research and like I already do research, 775 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: Like now you ain't do research, you ain't watch these 776 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: people and just see. 777 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: You just got to see. So that's one redirect that. 778 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 3: And then as far as content creation, like the way 779 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 3: I look at it is, I'm kind of a project 780 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 3: based guru, Like I like doing projects and that can 781 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 3: be thirty day subathin, or that can be a three 782 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: day weekend, or the project can be one stream. So 783 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 3: if we speaking in music terms for streamers, a subbathin. 784 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 2: Is like our album. 785 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: It's like, hey, I got this ability to entertain at 786 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: this level. I'm about to give you thirty days of it. 787 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 3: That's our album. And you could say like, yo, I 788 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: want to hit twenty thousand subs and that's your sales. 789 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 3: That's what you're trying to hit. And as far as 790 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 3: your single streams, if we're looking at it in that aspect, 791 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 3: when you do one stream, you should put that much 792 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: effort in that you put into the subathin if you're 793 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: going to theme it out and then do this and 794 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: get this person, do that for one stream, and that's 795 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: a single, and your single should go triple platinum, show 796 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 3: Google good, and it should be everywhere because ideally you 797 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: want it on the shade rum and then you want 798 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: it all over TikTok and you want people talking about it. 799 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 3: And it's real possible that people we haven't hit singles, 800 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 3: they spark up in that one stream and they still 801 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: streaming tomorrow, mind you, and then they got content for 802 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: tomorrow to talk about what happened yesterday. 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