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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, ra

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Is important to understand that everybody travels a

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Speaker 1: different path to success. That's because your brand is different.

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Speaker 1: The challenges you face in your life are different. So

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Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start writing your own.

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Speaker 1: My Money Making Conversation interviews will encourage you to leave

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Speaker 1: with your gifts and never use age as an excuse

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Speaker 1: when planning your goals. My next guest is Gary One.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the top touring comedians today. He's performed

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Speaker 1: and he performs regular and sold like comedy clubs and

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Speaker 1: arenas around this country. His big break came in eighteen

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Speaker 1: and eighty seven on BT Stand Up Showcase Comic View.

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Speaker 1: Now as an actor, you've seen him and think like

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Speaker 1: a man Movies, Daddy Day Care, A Little Man Ride Alonge.

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Speaker 1: He is on the show to talk about his comedy

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Speaker 1: career because he's back on tour. COVID. He back out

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Speaker 1: there now, COVID shut us die for that. But the

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Speaker 1: back out there it's popular, gets on podcast and he's

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Speaker 1: starting a new action thriller movie called Welcome to Sudden

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Speaker 1: Death with Michael job White. Please welcome to money making

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Speaker 1: conversation my man, Gary on how are you doing? Gary?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Well, I mean we we kind of

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Speaker 1: we kind of kind of popped up right there. Man.

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Speaker 1: The COVID came in and everybody at live event performances

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Speaker 1: shut down. Talk tell us about that moment when there

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Speaker 1: was a realization that that this pandemic was gonna take

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Speaker 1: with it. We took away a huge part of the

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Speaker 1: income there for a while. I'm sorry, I'm sorry I

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Speaker 1: understated it, Gary, I understated it. Yeah, we gotta realized.

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Speaker 1: I I kind of lived my life and we budget. Um,

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Speaker 1: like everything around my stand up money, like TV and

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Speaker 1: film money is always just like extra to me when

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Speaker 1: those when those texts come in, I'm always like, oh great,

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Speaker 1: extra money. But as far as my day to day living,

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Speaker 1: we based it off stand up. So when that came

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Speaker 1: I I thought it was gonna be like two or

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Speaker 1: You know that that was a scary part about it

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, you know, were

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Speaker 1: people have to admit that that's you're just an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: If you're a stand up comic, you're successful. You're a

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Speaker 1: small business. You're walking talking small business. You just having

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Speaker 1: to be going on stage performing. And when that when

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Speaker 1: when the kovid hit me, I admit I was, I

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Speaker 1: I have my perrel, I have my I have my

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Speaker 1: plastic gloves. How did that affect you? You know, not

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Speaker 1: just from a comedic standpoint, just a real life standpoint.

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Speaker 1: You have your your family to deal with, and you

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Speaker 1: you in your professional life being shut down. Now you're

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Speaker 1: at home. How did that all play out? Gary? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean a couple of things I did. I called

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Speaker 1: man I've ever met. I just want to got that

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Speaker 1: my favorite man. He's one of my favorite people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I called him, I said, Rominy, what should I

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Speaker 1: And then you know, I'm going back to what you

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Speaker 1: I deal with it? One thing I did that I

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Speaker 1: would encourage any comic to do is I really amped

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Speaker 1: up my YouTube and Facebook videos because um uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: once you get a sound of subscribers, you can get

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Speaker 1: monetized on you. And so I actually hired a company

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Speaker 1: So you that's the money I could have made. I

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Speaker 1: So so and every time a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: hey man, I own my material, I copyright this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Let me go on YouTube and make more money using

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Speaker 1: my material. And that enabled you to see things from

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Speaker 1: a different perspective. Now that the pandemic is allowing you

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Speaker 1: different financial model? I am. And it's also building your

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Speaker 1: fan base. You're you're bringing in fans that you didn't

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Speaker 1: watching this stuff, right, And now you get back on

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Speaker 1: the road and you know, I got back on the

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Speaker 1: bringing in new fans that I didn't know I have

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Speaker 1: before the pandemic. Well, now you become what they say,

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Speaker 1: multiple streams of income, and that's that's when we all

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Speaker 1: try to achieve. There's not and you know, also achieving

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Speaker 1: look at what you're doing with your career. Gary, First

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Speaker 1: of all, I'm proud of you. You know always, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've watched at least two of your your comedy special.

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Speaker 1: You know, you built a brand, and you built a

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Speaker 1: So how did you start out your's your stand up

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Speaker 1: So I told the comics in the back, I go, hey,

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Speaker 1: Now go back in our relationship and think like a man.

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Speaker 1: white guy that can hang out with black guys but

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Speaker 1: not act black and really be able to give and take,

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Speaker 1: like give them ship and then they give and take

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh that's perfect, and then uh

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Speaker 1: and then like and then I did another special and

432
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Speaker 1: then it just all that was a big jump in

433
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Speaker 1: my career as far as like tickets going up and

434
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Speaker 1: people recognizing me and getting more opportunities like in front

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Speaker 1: of the camera. Yeah, I always say will Packer especially

436
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 1: going to bat for me and you guys and think

437
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Speaker 1: like me and franchise. It just came at the time

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Speaker 1: of my career where it just went, you know, the

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Speaker 1: I R S was happy. I would just telling you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I said, you know, you have to

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Speaker 1: be ready for those moments, Gary, and you was ready

442
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Speaker 1: for those moments. And that's why that's why I appreciating

443
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: the storytelling that you're doing and doing this interview. Everything

444
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: is like so fresh and so vivid in your mind

445
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: because you still you live in your what you wanted

446
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: to do all your life, and so it's not even

447
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: like another thought. You know, I didn't want to be

448
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Speaker 1: a scientist. You know, I was in the Navy, but

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00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't a career move for me. Okay, that wasn't

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Speaker 1: That was just an opportunity to get to my dream.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's really impressive. And when I when

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Speaker 1: I look at the movie that I saw, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Southern Death with Michael joh White. Okay, now you're you're

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Speaker 1: the comedy relief in this movie. Okay. So when people

455
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Speaker 1: tell you that and you're given a script, what runs

456
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Speaker 1: through your mind? The additional pressure that you because you

457
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Speaker 1: know it's a serious, you know, terrorists driven movie where

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Speaker 1: this basketball arena and the owner of the arena is

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Speaker 1: captured and people are being bludgend and killed backstage and

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Speaker 1: nobody knows about it. Out of all this, you gotta

461
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Speaker 1: be funny? Is that pressure? Yeah? Well, let me tell

462
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Speaker 1: you what's crazy about this whole movie and how I

463
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: got it. And you always hear the notion there's no

464
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Speaker 1: small part um in your whole career on this interview

465
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Speaker 1: have been crazy and so you can use the word crazy,

466
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: but it really kind of like kind of like it's

467
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: the exclamation mark of everything that happened in your life.

468
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Speaker 1: My thing about you is that when you give an

469
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Speaker 1: opportunity to dude, you go for it. That's what I

470
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: give you, and I give you credit for that. Man.

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Speaker 1: That's following your passion with credibility and and and an

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Speaker 1: absolute focus. You're amazing, dude. I gotta give your love

473
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Speaker 1: on that one. Brother. Yeah, I appreciate it. But this

474
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Speaker 1: is how this is how Welcome the Sun Death came

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Speaker 1: about for me. I did a movie called Undercover Brother Too. Yes,

476
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Speaker 1: I saw that absolutely, Yeah, it's on Netflix now. Me

477
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Speaker 1: and Michael Guy White we only had one day together shooting,

478
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Speaker 1: like one day, and I didn't really have any lines.

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Speaker 1: I just I just had to of Mike a face

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Speaker 1: in the movie. And he kept cracking while we're filming.

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Speaker 1: He kept going, I can't look at this guy without laughing.

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Speaker 1: And so so we you know, mat small talk, nothing crazy.

483
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden he d MS me like four

484
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Speaker 1: or five months later and said, hey, man, I'm getting

485
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Speaker 1: ready to this movie. Um, can I send you the

486
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Speaker 1: script or can you call me to discuss it? So

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Speaker 1: I called him and he was He pictures the movie

488
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Speaker 1: to me, and he goes, dude, I really I really

489
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Speaker 1: want you on this movie. And here I am. I'm like, okay,

490
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Speaker 1: he calling you telling you he really want you on

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Speaker 1: this movie, right, Michael J. White is So, what time

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Speaker 1: attitude do you have garyl you kind of like, is

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Speaker 1: he kidding me? You know, Mike, Mike can want to

494
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Speaker 1: be fight, you want to be s you know. And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad it was on the phone because you can't

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Speaker 1: say no to Mike. But I knew I was gonna

497
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Speaker 1: I didn't have to read the script. He was, I'm

498
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Speaker 1: gonna say to the script and let me know if

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Speaker 1: you want to do it. I already knew I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say yes. I already knew it. Um So I

501
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: read it and then, like I said, it wasn't a

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Speaker 1: lot of funny parts in it like that, and he

503
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Speaker 1: just said, you know, I just want you to be

504
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: you making yours. I called, I talked to the director.

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Speaker 1: We had lunch. He gave me, you know, he gave

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Speaker 1: me his blessing, Like, dude, make it yours, make it funny.

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Speaker 1: We'll do We'll do it take according to the script,

508
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: but we're gonna do takes where you can just do

509
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Speaker 1: what you want. And the cool part about this movie

510
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Speaker 1: is every day when you sit in the makeup trailer,

511
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Speaker 1: and usually when you're in the makeup trailer it's early,

512
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: you know your energy is low and you're just trying

513
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: to you know, you're kind of reading the script by yourself.

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Speaker 1: Every time me and Michael had a scene together, which

515
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: most of our scenes were together, because it's like it's

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Speaker 1: like a buddy, it's like a rush out, and and

517
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: he always would like sit back and we read lines

518
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: together and we go over the scene. And so by

519
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 1: the time we went to shoot and block, we had

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00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: our own version. And give all credit to Dallas Jackson,

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00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: the director. He was like, yeah, let's do it. And

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Speaker 1: even Mike said, he goes, I'm telling him. I go,

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00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: I go, hey, I thank them, like, dude, thanks for him,

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Speaker 1: thanks for giving me some leeway and and doing this,

525
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: and he goes, he's not because I'm just happy I can.

526
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm giving you suggestions on jokes and you're using them.

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00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't think about that. It was crazy

528
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: because Mike's mind, he was like, yo, I can't believe

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00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Gary Oe just used one of my jokes. It was

530
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: it was his movie. So I was like, yeah, let me.

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Speaker 1: I like to be collaborative, so I was like, yeah,

532
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: you know, the character and everything. So it was just

533
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: it was so fun work with him, and and you know,

534
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: to to just to be wanted like that. I never

535
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Speaker 1: had that experience to be a lead. I mean, yeah,

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00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: I think like the Man was great, but that was

537
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: such a big ensemble and there were so many of it.

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00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: But just the fact that everyone in the business, Mike

539
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want Gary, and he really fought

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00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: for me to be in the movie. Well, you know,

541
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Speaker 1: and everybody know, first of all, it's a really good movie,

542
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: and you're very funny, and Michael's very athletic and he kicks.

543
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to figure out how this guy is

544
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: killed kicking but looking the way he's looking at his age,

545
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: but he looks amazing. He looks very limber, as they say.

546
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: But it really is a starring role for you, and

547
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: this because of the fact that you're more than just

548
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: the commedy relief. They come to you and strategic moments

549
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: in the movie to move the story along, and that's

550
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: what that's that's when it becomes they've really given me

551
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: an opportunity because you blow that movie the story alone

552
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: part doesn't have credibility. Then guess what, the story doesn't flow,

553
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: and the story does flow. It's a really really good movie. Yeah, yeah,

554
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm excited, man, I'm excited. What's coming out on September

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00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: twenty nine, available on digital and DVD and Blu Ray.

556
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: Welcome to Southern Death, Gary and Netflix as well. You

557
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: know Dallas Jackson's director starting my man, Michael John Wright. Uh, Gary,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the time, man, This is really hopefully

559
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: on mind coming back on the show again. The first

560
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: time I've talked to you in personal. I've seen you

561
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: and we met each other many times. To the side

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Speaker 1: of your hand. Adapt but you're really special man, and

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Speaker 1: I really respect what you've accomplished and will accomplished in

564
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Speaker 1: this business and keep winning. Anytime you want to promote

565
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: anything your podcast, I got a million social media follows,

566
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: I got a a fan email, fan list of every

567
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: Wench that's send out like ninety thousand social media I

568
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: mean fan club followers. I'll promote your brother t shirts,

569
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: face mask, whatever you got when you come to time,

570
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: let me know, Okay, I appreciate you, man, Thank you

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Speaker 1: all right. Hi, This ras Sean McDonald. If you want

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Speaker 1: to listen to any Money Making Conversation interviews, please go

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Speaker 1: your host. Thank you. Bye,