1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World. This is the second 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: of a two part series on the State of Georgia's 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Election Integrity Act of two twenty one, which was signed 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: into law by Governor Brian Kemp on March twenty fifth, 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: two twenty one. The act has ignited a discussion about 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: free and fair elections. Part two is about President Joe Biden, 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the legendary smear artist, and Biden's role in inciting the 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: woke left to think of the new law as quote 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: un American and quote sick. The truth is, President Joe 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Biden has a long history of using lies and smears 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: throughout his political career. The lies he's publicly told about 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: the Georgia Election Integrity Act should not shock us at 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: all if we look at his history, going all the 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: way back to the nomination of Judge Bourke for Supreme 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Court Justice in nineteen eighty seven, when Biden was the 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. On this episode will 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: be at Biden's lies about Georgia and the fact that 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: he's lied throughout his public life when it suits him 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: for political gain. I want to start by having you 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: listen to Biden, in his own words, talk about the 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: Georgia Election Integrity Act. When I'm worried about is how 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: Unamerican this whole initiative is. It's sick. It's sick, deciding 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: in some states that you cannot bring water to people 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: standing in line waiting to vote, Deciding that you're going 25 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: to end voting at five o'clock when working people are 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: just getting off work. Now, notice the strength of that 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: language an American. It's sick, and he goes at sick twice. Now, 28 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: the problem is everything he's describing as a lie. When 29 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: March twenty six, Biden released an official White House statement saying, 30 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: among the outrageous parts of this new state law, it 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: ends voting hours early, so working people can't cast their 32 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: vote after their shift disorder. That's not true. In fact, 33 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: it's so untrue. And this is really hard for a 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: liberal Democrat. It's so untrue that the Washington Post had 35 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: a story on March thirty of the same quote. Biden 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: falsely claims the new Georgia law ends voting hours early, 37 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: giving him four pinocchios. Now pardon to Washington Post. Four 38 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: is the most pinocchios they give you, sin order, how 39 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: much you lie, you can't get five six seven pinocchios. 40 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: There's no bonus for extra lying, but this is an 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: amazing story. In this article, the Washington Post said one 42 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: could understand the flood at a news conference, but then 43 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: this same claim propped up in an official presidential statement. 44 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: Not a single expert we consulted who has studied the 45 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: law understood why Biden made this claim, as this was 46 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: the sectional law that expanded early voting from many Georgians. 47 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Somehow Biden managed to turn that expansion into a restriction 48 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: aimed at working people, calling it quote among the outrageous 49 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: parts of the law. There is no evidence that this 50 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: is the case. The president earns four pinocchios. Now I 51 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: want you to think of all what they just said. 52 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: The Washington Post, one of the leading liberal newspapers in America, 53 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: gives President Biden four pinocchios because you're just playing line. 54 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: He didn't just lie once, He then came back and 55 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: lied again. On March thirty first, the day after the 56 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: Washington Post story came out, Just to show you how 57 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: impervious to the truth Joe Biden is, Joe Biden went 58 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: on ESPN and told exactly the same life but listened 59 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: to him in his own words, this is Jim Crow 60 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: on steroids. What they're doing in Georgia and forty other states. 61 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: What it's all about. Imagine asking the law saying you 62 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: cannot provide water or food for someone standing in a 63 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: line to vote. Can't do that? Come on, or you're 64 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: going to close a polling place at five o'clock when 65 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: working people just get off. Now it's fascinating to me 66 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: that the term Jim Crow just happens to fit into 67 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Stacy Abraham's having two weeks before gotten the website Jim 68 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Crow too dot com. And think about this. She's already 69 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: decided it's a Jim Crow law before it's a law. 70 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: Then she somehow gets the President of States to use 71 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: the name of her website. Then you have people all 72 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: over the place saying things. I just today saw a 73 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Democrat fundraising email from the mayor of Atlanta who starts 74 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: by lying the title of something about how people can't 75 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: get water when they're standing in line, and she's outraged 76 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: when it's hot Georgia and you can't get water. It's 77 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: a total lie. The bill specifically provides that the election 78 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: officials can give you water. Who can't give you water 79 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: are political campaigns. The lies just go on on and 80 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to matter when people say to him 81 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: it's just not true. And then I began to think 82 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: back to my memories of Joe Biden, because we had 83 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: served together when he was in the Senate, and his 84 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: first great experience, I think, in smearing as an art form, 85 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: was going after Robert. Robert Bourke was a very intellectual, 86 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: very serious professor of law nominated to the Supreme Court 87 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: by Ronald Reagan, and he was so viciously smeared that 88 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: in the Oxford English Dictionary to boork his quote to 89 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: defame or vilify a person systematically. And who was the 90 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: chairman of the Judiciary Committee when borking occurred. Joe Biden. 91 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: In fact, it's really fascinating because it turns out that 92 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: Biden had just dropped out of the presidential race because 93 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: he had been caught stealing verbatim Neil Kinnock, the British 94 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: Labor leader's personal speech, which is a great speech about 95 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: growing up in a Welsh village. And I started thinking, 96 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: as I was coming over here, why is it that 97 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to 98 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: go to a university Why is it that my wife, 99 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: who sitting out there in the audience is the first 100 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: in her family to ever go to college? People in 101 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Britain would have been familiar with those words. They heard 102 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: the same ones in a political commercial from Labor Party 103 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: leader Neil Kinnock. Why am I the first Knock in 104 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: a thousand generation to be able to get the university? 105 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: Where is Gledness the first woman in her family in 106 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: a thousand generation? Biden saw the Kinnock commercial and ever 107 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: that he loved it. Was it because they were weak, 108 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: those people who wait but eight hours them to grow 109 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: and then grew up and play football week. My ancestors 110 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: who worked in the coal mines in northeast Pennsylvania will 111 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: come up after twelve hours and play football for four hours. 112 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Biden had told other audiences he admired Kinnock. Not this one, 113 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: this one, he later said he had listening in hushed silence. 114 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: But no, it's not because they weren't as smart. It's 115 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: not because it didn't work as hard. It's because they 116 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: didn't have a platform upon which to stand. Anybody really 117 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: think that they didn't get what we had because they 118 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: didn't have the talent of the strength of the impudence 119 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: of the commitment. Of course not it was because there 120 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: was no platform upon which they could stop. But he 121 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: literally used the speech verbatim, and the press figures it out. 122 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: And so he's driven from his first presidential campaign and 123 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: he desperately needs something to rehabilitate himself, and he decides 124 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: that he will frankly smear Robert Borke and think about it. 125 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: Biden creates a smear so obvious that it's now a 126 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: word in the dictionary. Was tragic for Bork, who never 127 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: fully recovered. Because he was one of the most qualified 128 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: lawyers of his generation, he was widely popular, especially with conservatives. 129 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: He was thought to have a great chance of being 130 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: confirmed in the Senate. President Reagan, on nominating him, gave 131 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: a sense of what an extraordinary man this was, and 132 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: I think it's worth listening to President Reagan as a 133 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: contrast with smearing and lying Joe Biden. It's with great 134 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: pleasure and deep respect for his extraordinary abilities that I 135 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: had today announced my intention to nominate United States Court 136 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,359 Speaker 1: of Appeals Judge Robert H. Bork to be an Associate 137 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Justice of the Supreme Court. Judge Boork is recognized as 138 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: a premier constitutional authority. His outstanding intellect and unrivaled scholarly 139 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: credentials are reflected in his thoughtful examination of the broad 140 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: fundamental legal issues of our times. When confirmed by the 141 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: Senate as an appellate judge in nineteen eighty two, the 142 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: American Bar Association gave him its highest rating, exceptionally well 143 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: qualified on the bunch a bench. He has been well prepared, 144 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: even handed, and open minded in taking this action. To day, 145 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: I am mindful of the importance of this nomination. The 146 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: Supreme Court of the United States is the custodian of 147 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: our Constitution. Justices of the Supreme Court must not only 148 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: be jurists of the highest competence, they must be attentive 149 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: to the specific rights guaranteed in our Constitution and the 150 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: proper role of the courts in our democratic system. Judge Bork, 151 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: widely regarded as the most promi an intellectually powerful advocate 152 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: of judicial restraint, shares my view that judge's personal preferences 153 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: and values should not be part of their constitutional interpretations. 154 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: The guiding principle of judicial restraint recognizes that under the Constitution, 155 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: it is the exclusive province of the legislatures to enact 156 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: laws and the role of the courts to interpret them. 157 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: We are fortunate to be able to draw upon such 158 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: an impressive legal mind, an experienced judge, and a man 159 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: who already has devoted so much of his life to 160 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: public service. You'll bring credit to the Court and his colleagues, 161 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: as well as to his country in the Constitution. Justice 162 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: Lewis Powell, in announcing his retirement, said the Court should 163 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: not be hampered by operating it less than full strength. 164 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: And with this in mind, I urge the Senate to 165 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: expedite its consideration of Judge Bork. So the Court will 166 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: have nine justices when October term begins, and I have 167 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: every expectation that it will do so. No matter how 168 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: good Bork was, Biden suddenly had a problem. His presidential 169 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: campaign had collapsed. He'd been attacked over plagiarism. He was 170 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: losing any prestige he had. He was meaning to be 171 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: a joke, and so he moved to attack Bork to 172 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: rehabilitate himself. And in fact he turned it into a 173 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: classically self denying moment of sacrifice. But listen to him 174 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: describe how he makes this choice. Now. He doesn't quite 175 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: explain that he's not choosing between running for president because 176 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: he's being driven out of the race. But here's what 177 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: Biden himself said, and therefore it seems to me, I 178 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: have a choice. I have to choose between running for 179 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: president and doing my job keep the Supreme Court from 180 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: moving in the direction. But I believe to be truly harmful. 181 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: Now he went to work helping Teddy Kennedy smear, and 182 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: Kennedy's attack was just unbelievably vicious. Here's what Teddy Kennedy 183 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: said about Robert Borke. In Robert Bork's America, there is 184 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: no room at the end for blacks and no place 185 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: in the Constitution for women. And in our America there 186 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: should be no seat on the Supreme Court for Robert Borke. 187 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Mister Bourke has been equally extreme in his opposition to 188 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: the right to privacy. In an article in nineteen seventy one, 189 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: he said, in effect that a husband and wife have 190 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: no greater right to privacy under the Constitution than a 191 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: smokestack has to pollute the air. What I hear you're 192 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: saying here now is that the test that was used 193 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: about ninety years ago, and which was the basis for 194 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: discrimination against women is the standard that you would use. 195 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: You may be able to elaborate on it, but that's 196 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: at least what I'm was the basis or discrimination against 197 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: women by think that society saw all kinds of distinctions, 198 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: legal distinctions between men and women as entirely reasonable and rationally. 199 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: This society no longer season that way, and that is fine. Well, 200 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: I just take thirty more seconds, mister Chairman. On numerous 201 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: occasions over the last sixteen years, or if you've suggested 202 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: the equal Protection Clause the Constitution does not ban discrimination 203 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: against women. Now you're suggesting this free court should apply 204 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: the same lacks standard of sex discrimination cases that applies 205 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: and challenges to air pollution ordinances or economic regulations. You've 206 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: also disapproved the Equal Rights Amendment. Finally, you also suggested 207 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: in a nineteen eighty five opinion that the Civil Rights 208 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: Act offers little if any protection against any one of 209 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: the ugliest forms of gender discrimination individual sexual harassment on 210 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: the job. We've made great progress country in the last 211 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: twenty years and giving women equal status under law, and 212 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: I think the controversy has largely been settled that you 213 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: would have of the Supreme Court evidently rolled back the 214 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: clock and the reopened old wounds, very similar to the 215 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: way that Biden now is talking about Jim Crow. He 216 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: may just have learned this from Teddy Kennedy. Borke came 217 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: out and said all these accusations were false, just as 218 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: by the way Governor Kempus come out and pointed out 219 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: that every accusation about the Georgia laws foss. But the 220 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: news media was in full savagery. They went after Boork. 221 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: The Democrats went after Bourke. The Washington Post in July 222 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: tenth ninety seven published an article which said quote, while 223 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: claiming the Judge Bourke will have a full and fair hearing, 224 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Senator Joseph Biden this week has pledged to civil rights 225 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: groups that he will lead the opposition to the confirmation. 226 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: As the Queen of Heart said to Alice Intens first 227 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: Verdict afterward, how can he possibly get a fair hearing 228 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: from Biden, who has already cast himself as the role 229 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: of prosecutor instead of juror in the Judiciary committee. If 230 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: there is a strong, serious case to be argued against 231 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: Judge Burke, why do so many Democrats seem unwilling to 232 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: make it and afraid to listen to the other side? 233 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: So even the Washington Post is recognizing that Biden, instead 234 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: of being the impartial chairman of the committee giving work 235 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: a fair hearing, working with Teddy Kennedy and the smear 236 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: campaign worked, which is something which taught Biden a technique 237 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: that if you smear hard enough, and you smear with 238 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: a straight face, that somehow it works. There were people 239 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: who were truly offended. One of them with Senator John Danforth, 240 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Republican from Missouri, who said before the vote, the man's 241 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: been trashed in our house. Some of us helped generate 242 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: the trashing, others of us yielded to it. But all 243 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: of us, myself included, all of us have been accomplices 244 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: to it. All of us who haven't spoken out have 245 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: been accomplices to it. All of us who have sat there, 246 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: not just members of the Committee, but members of the Senate, 247 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: and let these ads go on, and let this trashing 248 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: go on, and let this good man be characterized as 249 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: some sort of Frankenstein's monster without raising a voice against it. 250 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: All of us are accomplices. Biden responded to the Senator Inforth, 251 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: saying that this notion is one heck of an indictment. 252 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: Listen to Biden's explanation of what he was doing seemed 253 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: to me what the Senator is indicting is less the 254 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: process than the Senate. For if the Senator is suggesting 255 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: that fifty I predict fifty seven, possibly fifty eight of 256 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: our colleagues today who are going to vote against Judge 257 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: Gord are doing so because they have succumbed to the 258 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: raw pressure wherever from wherever it was generated, it seems 259 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: to me that's one heck of an indictment of your colleagues, 260 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: because if you insist that that's the reason they're voting, 261 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: why they did not because of the caliber of the 262 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: testimony and the people who testified against him, not because 263 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: of his record, then it seems to me that the 264 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: indictment is not so much of the system, but the 265 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: indictments of the lack of courage of individual members of 266 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: the Senate, And that, to me, is an awfully, awfully 267 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: strong indictment. I'm not being facetious when I say this. 268 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: I have a higher opinion of the ability of my 269 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: colleague to do what's right. Then, apparently the sent from 270 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: bisour does Biden, after the Senate rejected Bork's nomination, responded 271 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: to claims about a smear campaign. Now this is Biden's explanation. 272 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: This no ship, this no shit. I heard this morning, 273 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Lynch Mobs. I heard from another Senate this morning. Fifteen 274 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: million dollar ad campaigns right come from They call that 275 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: making things up out a whole cloth. It's bizarre, it's ridiculous. 276 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: Look at the record. It was fascinating that missus Joe 277 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: Biden was so candid about what happened to Borke. She 278 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: said he she's referring to. Here is Joe Biden, her 279 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: husband quote. He needed to be vindicated. It was about Bork, 280 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: it was about Bork's politics, but it was also about Joe. 281 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: In other words, for Joe's career, Bork had to be borked. 282 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: And I think having her say it that openly and 283 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: that directly, she would convince anybodyhood any doubts that this 284 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: was a deliberate smear for the furtherance of Joe Biden's career. 285 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: To invent a word to be borked, meaning to be smeared, 286 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: is itself sort of an unusual achievement. But it didn't 287 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: stop there. If it had only been the Bork nomination, 288 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't think you could make nearly a stronger case 289 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: about Biden as a serial smear artist. But it came 290 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: up again because when President George H. W. Bush nominated 291 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court in nineteen ninety one, 292 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Thomas was attacked about relations with a woman named Anita Hill. 293 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: And at the time, by the way, the American people 294 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: did not believe Anita Hill. In fact, there was a 295 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: substantial majority that thought she was not telling the truth, 296 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: that it was just another smear, and specifically it is 297 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden who once again is engaged in smearing somebody. 298 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: When Biden went after Thomas, and it got to be 299 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: I remember it vividly. He got to be a very emotional, 300 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: very high stakes moment. The fact is that at that 301 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: time Thomas rescued his own nomination in an extraordinary statement 302 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: directly at the committee. And I remember at the time, 303 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: because I knew the people who were working with Thomas, 304 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: that he insisted that he was going to answer them 305 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: and he's going to go straight at him. And if 306 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: that meant that he was defeated, that was fine, but 307 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: he was not going to tolerate being smeared by these 308 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: politicians who had no honor and no sense of honesty. 309 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: And Thomas is a tough guy, had gone to a 310 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Catholic school, he had grown up in Georgia under segregation. 311 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: He swore in Calista as ambassador what's called the administrative 312 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: swearing in. I remember we sat around chatting and he said, 313 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: you know, I used to go to the library in 314 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: the afternoon and none of my school friends liked the 315 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: idea that I really like to read, and so I 316 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: would go and hide and read. And he learned a 317 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: great deal. He's a very very smart, very decent human being, 318 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: and so he is determined to set the record straight. 319 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: And I thought it was one of the most powerful 320 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: and most emotional statements. And I want you to hear 321 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas, now Justice Thomas, in his own words. Committee 322 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: will please come to order. Judge, it's a tough day 323 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: and tough night for you. I know. Let me ask, 324 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: do you have anything you'd like to say before we began? 325 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: And I understand that your preference is, which is totally 326 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: completely understandable, that we go one hour to night, thirty 327 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: minutes on each side? Is am I correcting that? That's right? Ry, 328 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Like the Senator, I would like to start by saying unequivocally, 329 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: uncategorically that I deny each and every single allegation against 330 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: me today that suggested in any way that I had 331 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: conversations of a sexual nature or about pornographic material with 332 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: Anita Hill, that I ever attempted to date her, that 333 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: I ever had any personal sexual interest in her, or 334 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: that I in any way ever harassed her. A second, 335 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: and I think more important point, I think that this 336 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: today is a travesty. I think that it is disgusting. 337 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: I think that this hearing should never occur in America. 338 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: This is a case in which this sleeves, this dirt 339 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: would searched for by staffers of members of this committee, 340 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: was then leaked to the medium, and this committee and 341 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: this body validated it and displayed it at prime time 342 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: over our entire nation. How would any member on this committee, 343 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: any person in this room, or any person in this 344 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: country would like sleeves set about him or her in 345 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: this fashion, or this dirt dredged up in this gossip 346 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: and these lies displayed in this manner? How would any 347 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: person like it? The Supreme is not worth it, no 348 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: job is worth it. I'm not here for that. I'm 349 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: here for my name, my family, my life, and my integrity. 350 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: I think something is dreadfully wrong with this country when 351 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: any person, any person in this free country would be 352 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: subjected to this. This is not a closed room. There 353 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: was an FBI investigation. This is not an opportunity to 354 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: talk about difficult matters privately or in a closed environment. 355 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: This is a circus. It's a national disgrace, and from 356 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: my standpoint as a Black American, as far as I'm concerned, 357 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: it is a high tech lynching for opity blacks who 358 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: in any way deign to think for themselves, to do 359 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: for themselves, to have different ideas, And it is a 360 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: message that unless you cowtown to an old order, this 361 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, 362 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: caricatured by a committee of the US US Senate, rather 363 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: than hung from a treat He describes a high tech 364 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: lynching for uppity blocks, and of course that's now mutated 365 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: into a high tech lynching for anybody who's conservative, and 366 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: which was what Joe Biden is now doing. Biden subjected 367 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: Thomas to what Thomas described as a high tech lynching 368 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: over the accusation by Anita Hill that Biden knew were false. 369 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: And it's very interesting to watch because in the modern left, 370 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: you cannot say that Anita Hill light. That would guarantee 371 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: that you'd be destroyed and you could never be a 372 00:25:53,200 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: candidate a Democratic Party. Biden goes on the View and 373 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: it's actually a very funny segment to watch because they're 374 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: trying to coach him into how to say that he 375 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: was wrong and how to apologize, and he claims that 376 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: he always believed in Nita Hill. So listen to Biden 377 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: in his own words on The View on April twenty six, 378 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. So welcome to the View apology tour. I 379 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: know something about it. Believe me, we all do. Okay, 380 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: You're not alone in this one. I'm proud of my record. Okay, 381 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: So let's go to this one. This is this is 382 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: another area that that you know. Earlier this month, you 383 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: reached out to Anita Hill and you personally expressed some 384 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: regret to her about the way you behaved. I guess 385 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety one when you were on the 386 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: Senate committee, Um, you didn't vote for Clarence Thomas. Right. 387 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: Not only didn't I vote for Clarence Thomas, I believed 388 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: her from the beginning, I was against Clarence Thomas. I 389 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: did everything in my power to defeat Clarence Thomas, and 390 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: he's won by the smallest margin anyone ever won going 391 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court. But she was not happy with 392 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: your discussion with her. So here's your opportunity right now 393 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: to just say you apologize, you sorry. I think we 394 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: can clean this up right now. Well by the way 395 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: I did, I understand. Look, I'm not going to judge 396 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: whether or not it was appropriate, but she had whether 397 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: she thought it was sufficient. But I said privately what 398 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: I've said publicly. I am sorry she was treated the 399 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: way she was treated. I wish we could have figured 400 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: out a better way to get this thing done. I 401 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: did everything in my power to do what I thought 402 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: was within the rules to be able to stop things. 403 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: But look, take a look at what's happened, what I did, 404 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: when we got past, when we got through that god 405 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: awful experience she'd been through. She's one of the reasons 406 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: why we have the Me Too movement. She's one of 407 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: the reasons why I was able to finish writing The 408 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: Violence Against Women I She's one of the reasons why 409 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: I committed and that was over there never be a 410 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: judiciary committee I was involved, it didn't have women on it. 411 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: So I went out and made a commitment that the 412 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: women I campaign for would come on the committee. So 413 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: she's responsible for significant changes that she deserves credit for it. 414 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: And one of the things you saw is how about 415 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: the last hearing? Yeah, it's what we haven't There's so 416 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: much more work to do to figure out how the 417 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: one important thing I know is and if there's anything 418 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: in terms of mindset of Supreme Court hearings and those 419 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: kinds of circumstances, Supreme Court hearing is not a trial. 420 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: It's a job interview. It's a job interview. And you 421 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: don't have to prove beyond a reasonable without anything as 422 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: to why you shouldn't put so and so on the court. 423 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: And so I look, I'm grateful, you know, for as 424 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: long as I have. I don't know why it took 425 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: you so long to call her. I wish it had 426 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: happened earlier. Well, I tell you what the deal was. 427 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: I did not since I had publicly apologized for the 428 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: way she was treated. I had publicly said it, I 429 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: publicly had given for out credit for her, what the 430 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: contribution she made to change began to change this culture 431 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: in a significant way. That what I didn't want to do, 432 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to quote invader space. I didn't 433 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: want to get in the situation where this became. And 434 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: then I went when I heard all this about the 435 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: and it was legitimate expecting a call, why every time 436 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: the phone rang? Why? And so I I spoke to 437 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: some leading women advocates in this area, saw someone knew her, 438 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: and I said, could you see whether she'd take my call? Yeah? 439 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: And I was grateful she took my call. You know, 440 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I think what she wants you to say is I'm 441 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: sorry for the way I treated you, not for the 442 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: way you were treated. I think that would be a 443 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: little closer. Well, but I'm sorry the way she got 444 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: treated in terms of I never heard say. If you 445 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: go back and look what I said and didn't say, 446 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I treated her badly. I took on 447 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: her opposite what I couldn't figure out how to do, 448 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: and we still haven't figured it out. Yeah, how do 449 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: you stop people from asking inflammatory questions? How do you 450 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: stop these character assassinations? Outside there was a full blown 451 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: attack on her in order to try to get the 452 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: defense quote unquote for Clarence Thomas h and I am 453 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: I know woman or any victim of harassment should ever 454 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: be put through that circumstance in public hearing. Yeah, and 455 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: so look, if you notice, we're all still looking for 456 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: how do you change the process of having the hearing? 457 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: Do you do it in camera? Do you do it? 458 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: You know? And one of the things I read she 459 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: said is that she wants to see the issue elevated. 460 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: That she's you know, she's willing to be open to you, 461 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: but she wants to see this issue treated fairly unelevated. 462 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: So how do you do this? Was also not having 463 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: the other women testify, the other women that would have 464 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: been able to corroborate what happened. The truth is that 465 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: the key witness I wanted to testify. We decided she 466 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: didn't want to testify. We actually sent her a document 467 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: and saying I want you to come and her lawyers 468 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: in an hotel. Yeah and so, and I had it signed. 469 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: If you do not, I want you to come. But 470 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: if you don't want to come, sign this tell me 471 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: it's real. And we there is a document saying that. 472 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: Now people will then say, well, why didn't you call 473 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: her anyway? Well, I thought the issue was to try 474 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: to not to make it clear that I believed Anita, 475 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: excuse me, doctor Hill. I believe what she was saying. 476 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: And what would happen if someone came and said, well, 477 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anything that would have guaranteed 478 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: that this happened. So so, look, there are a lot 479 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: of mistakes made across the board, and for those, I 480 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: apologize that we may have been able to do and 481 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: conduct it better. But I believed doctor Hill from the beginning, 482 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: from the beginning, and I said it. I said it, 483 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: And so she'll come on the show with you here, 484 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: that would be a nice well, by the way, I'm 485 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: prepared to do that. I look, I I just think 486 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: she is a remarkable person. She really is. Yeah, and 487 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: it's remarkable what she was able to generate what and 488 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: some of you may remember that well, anyway, Biden insistently 489 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: lied about this. Arl Inspector, former senator now passed away, 490 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: as the one who wrote that Biden had said directly 491 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: to him. It was clear to me from the way 492 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: that she was answering the questions that Hill was lying. 493 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: But there's another witness again, Senator John Danforth, one of 494 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: the most respected members of the Senate in his generation, 495 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: he was Thomas's primary sponsor. He later said that Biden 496 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: promised Thomas and his wife that if Hill's allegations leaked, 497 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: he Biden would be Thomas's most adamant and vigorous defender. 498 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: Thomas and his wife have said that Biden called them 499 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: after reading the FBI reports and assured him that there 500 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: was no merit to Hall's accusation. They have a series 501 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: of independent witnesses, each on their own saying that Biden 502 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: did not believe Hill, but of course, when he was 503 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: running for president, he could never have said that, because 504 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: then he could never be nominated. Biden, even during the hearings, 505 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: shifts his own position, having promised dan Forth that he 506 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: would protect Thomas if these were leaked, having promised Thomas, 507 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: Thomas and his wife that there was no merit. This 508 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: is what he said in nineteen ninety one, and explaining 509 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: to the court why the FBI reports are quote inconclusive. 510 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: The next person that refers to an FBI report as 511 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: being worth anything obviously doesn't understand anything. FBI explicitly does 512 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: not in this or any other case, reach a conclusion 513 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: period period. So Judge, there's no reason why you should 514 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: know this the reason why we cannot rely on the 515 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: FBI report. You wouldn't like it if we did, because 516 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: it is inconclusive. They say, he said, she said, and 517 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: they said period. So when people wave an FBI report before, 518 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: you understand they do not They do not They do 519 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: not reach conclusions, They do not make as my friend 520 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: points out more attic, they do not make recommendations. Now 521 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: you're hearing him say that the reports don't prove anything, 522 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: and you hear him say that he did not believe her. 523 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: And in the middle of all this you have him 524 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: presiding over a set of hearings which were designed to 525 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: smear Clarence Thomas. Biden, faced with what he believed were 526 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: false accusations, understood that inside the Democratic Party he had 527 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: no choice, and so he ruthlessly attacked Clarence Thomas. And 528 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: I think it was just one more example. So now 529 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: you have the early Biden smear against Bourke in the 530 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, you have the later Biden smear against Clarence 531 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: Thomas in the nineteen nineties, and then you get to 532 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: today's in which the President of the United States knowingly 533 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: deliberately says things that are not true, and does so 534 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: because he understands that if the truth is the base 535 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: of what we're going to do, then his side has 536 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: no hope and therefore what's an occasional lie and a 537 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: little smear among friends. 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