1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Missed out and do joy 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: to the moon. Money is into that stuff. Welcome to 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast. My name 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: is Dan Hands. I come to you from the virtual room, 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: back in the old virtual room, filled with some heroes, 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal. Wow, boys, listen. This time last 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: year we were doing bunker casts. We were in the darkness, 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: we were in caves and garages and and had no 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: contact with the outside world. This weekend, you know, really 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: starting with Thursday with the Pridecast, the first annual Around 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast Pridecast from Rocos and great feedback on 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: that show. Everyone seemed to really enjoy and we love 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: being about out there. And then Connie and Gonzo and 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Kristen their friend launched the latest Dad's Summit, so we 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: were partying at her place. And then there was a 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: boat cruise out on Marina del Ray that I was 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: lucky enough to be a part of. Wow, that was 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: a summer weekend. Yeah, I was there on on Saturday. 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: Was felt like more of like the training ground and 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: the warm up. The kids were, you know, we're allowed 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: to be there, part of the festivities. And then the 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: boat was just like full on debauchery. But I give 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: them a lot of credit. They had like good kids, 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: free stuff to play with, like they were very they 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: were very on top of it. And then it looks 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: like Sunday was just I don't know, it's a lot. Yeah, 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: well I'd like to I missed out. Um, you know, 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: we had we had a lot of soccer um activities 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: in our house. So is playing that role You are 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: getting a lot of mileage out of soccer is going 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: on lately whenever any type of social engagement. Oh yeah, 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: well no, I mean I wasn't using that as a 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: as a leverage to not go somewhere, but it was. 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: It didn't work out. But um, I want to know 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: more about this boat trip because it sounds um, it 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: sounds frisky. It was great. It was booze cruise. Um. 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: We had a nice crew there. My my wife was there, 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: Connie Lakisha, Um, handsome Hank, our great friend Deaker drew 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: from the network side. Just like a really very crew, 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of Philly maniacs like Channing, Eiggles and all 41 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: this other stuff going on in the boat. It was fun, 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: but I got the Farmers tan of all time really 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: one of the top farmer tans I've ever had in 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: my life, where it's just like it's crazy, like it's wild. Um, 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: But that's part of being in the sun and we're 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: back outside around other humans, and that's a part of 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: being a farmer. I mean, you know, he's part of 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: having alabaster skin. But living in Los Angeles Austrian skin, Dan, 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: that you were does well? You know, I survived in 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: the sun during the pridecast. M I made it. I 51 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: just made it. I know you were. You were tucked 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: away in the shade, Mark, and then I saw you 53 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: text the next day. You were like, is everybody else 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: It's okay? Man? That sun was killer. Mark was like 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: on a t heat and vacation heat vacation underneath a 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: palm tree during the whole show. That's what I don't get. 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: I came home and I had like a killer sunburn. 58 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: Yet I spent almost no time under the sun. So 59 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: something very strange happening in the atmosphere. It's the lack 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: of the Austrian Okay, we'll chalk it up to that. 61 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: All right, Nice show today, Nice show today. I've got 62 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: two more shows this week. Um. As we edge into 63 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: summer and this is a a big week around the 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: NFL because of the thirty two teams start minicamp, and 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of just spin through it an old 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: school bunker cast type vibe here. We'll just do a 67 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: spin around the league, go deep dive on the new 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: side of things. And I feel like that's that's the 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: good way to get us caught up. That's what we 70 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: do because Greg, you know, listen, it was a little 71 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: frivolous um. You know, we got loo Sun Thursday, had 72 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: some fun, but we are a football podcast and we 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: just gotta like get very serious about that. I don't 74 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: think we need to get too serious. If we had 75 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: the juice to be able to pull that off like 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: every show, I think we would, But I don't know 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: if we have that inside of us to do. You know, 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: that wouldn't it wouldn't be special anymore if we could do. 79 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm almost surprised that we reconvened before taking this little 80 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: breakthrough this That was like a WrestleMania event for us, 81 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: and now we're like that would have been a good 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: last show. This is like a Nanuete New Jersey like 83 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: undercard that people are apparently still going to be listening 84 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: to like we're Monday Wednesday, and then we're off for 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: six days, but we're still coming back next next Tuesday. Whatever. 86 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: It feels like it's the last week of school, you know, 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: like and everyone's going to get out for summer break. Um, 88 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: but it really isn't you know. You guys have your 89 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: TV show. I'll be gone next next by next week 90 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: and we've got the right and then like it all, 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: it all turns around pretty quickly, is what I'm saying. 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: It feels like because the NFL is about to take 93 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: off for a month of half and my kids are 94 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: done with school as of Friday. So you've gotta love 95 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: You've gotta love the fact that Greg's first moves to 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: downplay the concept of vacation. It's not really a vacation. 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: We're not really getting away, were really doing anything. Well, 98 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna be back next soon. Yeah, I know, but 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: that's depressing. I don't want to I don't want to 100 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: think about that until next week. We will have some 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: time off. It'll be closer to the end of this month, 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: early early July. But all right, let's get to without 103 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: further ado. Um. We have sitting in because Ricky's still 104 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: on this bachelorette party, which is wild. By the way, 105 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: we got some dispatches, some unbelievers, some video clips, some 106 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: crazy stuff going on with these bachelorette parties. And by 107 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: the way, one of the people on the booze cruise 108 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: was Ricky's girlfriend, and I did ask her, Uh, there's 109 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: the a t N media insider. I did ask her, 110 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: are you really okay with her going to this bachelor 111 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: at party where the bachelorette is actually her Ricky's ex girlfriend. 112 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: She said she sniffed it out, had conversations with when 113 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: the relationship first started, UM, and feels comfortable with the situation. 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: And I just wanted to say that's what eric had 115 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: said as well, so it all checked out. I would 116 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: say this too. I mean Erica in terms of what 117 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: content we're getting from the party, and she's been very 118 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: generous with sending along um clips that I don't think 119 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: would be necessarily put out for the public. Um. She's 120 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: the gatekeeper, and there is no hint of her running 121 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: a foul of the rules. She seems to be to 122 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: have her act together. Some of the other people involved 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: in the the Lesbionic Bachelor Party. To me, do not 124 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: seem to be played by any rules on any level. 125 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: So I, if anything, Erics you know, done done her 126 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: job to contain herself. Party. All right, let's do the news. 127 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, Dan, Greg Mark, you got a huge fan 128 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: down here, some bloke and awesome loves Dan Hanzas Dan, 129 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: You're the best. That's my story there. We got we 130 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: corrected that issue. Mark, It's been corrected. And by the way, 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: like I'm not sitting around fuming over that event, but 132 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think about it. I think that 133 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: Kyle is an ally of our show and one of them, 134 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: and I, by the way, I have I thought about 135 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: it enough where I've actually spoken um to the person 136 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: who spoke with Kyle, and I have um full details 137 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: on what that actual conversation was. And we'll just sleep 138 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: it right there. Wow. All right, Uh, speaking of which, 139 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: we have developing news. We were looking for the mysterious 140 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Aussie big fan of our program, and sure enough, the 141 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: miracles of social media, we found him and he is 142 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: a It turns out he's an actor with a really 143 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: really impressive I AMDB page and he's currently on an 144 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Amazon program. His name is Matt Lenevis. Let's listen in 145 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: on Matt's social media Uh experience good I, Dane and 146 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Kyle on the mysterious Susie from the bus Stay nine 147 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: of Quarantine. Clearly cars lost his mind. He's doing Ozzie 148 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: accent impersonations. He's lot somewhere in this hotel. I'm not 149 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: sure where. We're not allowed to see anyone, not allowed 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: to open the door. No, he didn't hear it. Anyway, 151 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Day nine has been made a lot more special because 152 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: they've got a shout out from the round the NFL. 153 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: I've been listening to you guys for ten years. You're 154 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: the greatest, honestly, Dan, Greg, Mark, Ricky and the late 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: great Chris. You guys hold a special place. You know, 156 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: all your fans hearts. I just want to say thanks 157 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: for everything that you do and hopefully one day we 158 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: can all meet. Take care. What a class act. And 159 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: you could see Matt le Nevis on Amazon's Absentia about that, 160 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I'll tell you something else. He's on it. 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: He was on a show because I when kind of 162 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: did a deep dive into some of his work. He's 163 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: the one I spoke to you. He's a wonderful guy. 164 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: Total Sweetheart, and he is on a show called The 165 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: You're breaking that news. No, he's just he's a great guy. 166 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: He's he's on a show. He was on a show 167 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: called The Offspring. Um and he appears and see he 168 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: sort of shows up around season two, episode four, and 169 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: he is that he is like the hunky love interest. 170 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Like he sizzles on screen. He is leading man um 171 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: energy and vibes. So I would suggest anyone go check 172 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: that out. Um, he is a genuinely talented actor. Wow, hunky, sizzling. 173 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: And I haven't heard Mark this excited since Brad Pittock 174 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: is shared I would have well that I would have um, Emily, 175 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: you know she's in casting to take a look at 176 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: his at his skills too. They are legit. Wow. And 177 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: to be clear, Mark, we didn't think that he like 178 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: said Dan Gregg and the guys, we we never thought that. 179 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: You know that that we were putty on. Kyle, you 180 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: know that we're putting on. But I think there was 181 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: a bit of a game of telephone that happened with 182 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: Um with that interaction. But that's fine. I do appreciate 183 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: all the tweets that have come since seeing like great 184 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: to hear Dan Gregg and the guy is all back together. 185 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: I do not I don't like those at all. Um, 186 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: they bring me to a pleasure. In fact, they border 187 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: on annoying. You know it did it also crossed my mind? 188 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: You know, Matt is a successful actor. I wonder if 189 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: we have any other well known listeners, like people that 190 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: are successful in the entertainment field or you know, sports 191 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: and another sport or whatever. I doubt there's a lot 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: of NFL stars listening to our show, But you never know, 193 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: I would, um wageer no, Like what if like Jack 194 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: Nicholson was like a huge fan of our podcast, that 195 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: would be awesome. I don't think so. But all right, 196 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: let's get to the news. All right, Let's start with 197 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: Greg's Patriots Stefan Gilmore, the two thousand nineteen NFL Defensive 198 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Player of the Year star cornerback. You know, he is 199 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: at a bit of an impasse with the team regarding 200 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: his contract act and he is not at mandatory minicamp. 201 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,479 Speaker 1: The Patriots one of these eighteen teams this week. Um, 202 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: everybody needs to be there, and if not, you're getting 203 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: a fun Gilmore is not there, and it's unclear if 204 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: he plans to be there for the rest of the week. 205 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: He's subject to almost ninety four or dollars and fines 206 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: if he misses all three days. Greg, we know how 207 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: Belichick can be, and he is not afraid to move veterans. Uh. 208 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Do you think Stefan Gilmore is going to be on 209 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: the move at some point before season begins or do 210 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: you think this is just contract posturing and they'll get 211 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: something done. I don't think he'll be on the move 212 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: because Belichick loves Stefan Gilmore so much. He made very 213 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: similar noise before last season, and they gave him some 214 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: extra guaranteed money going into the year, which is very 215 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: rare for them to do that, where they didn't give 216 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: him a contract. This thing just like gave him a 217 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: little extra money, which is I can only remember them 218 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: doing at with like Wes Welker. Uh. He speaks so 219 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: fondly of Gilmore, and he tried to Belichick did almost 220 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: cover up that he wasn't there today like there were 221 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: weather issues. So we're not totally sure if everyone's gonna 222 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: get here. And they asked specifically about Gilmore and he 223 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: was kind of putting it off. He almost trying to 224 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: do Gilmore a favor. I can't imagine they're going to 225 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: give him some monster contract extension, so that's problematic. He's 226 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: coming off a quad surgery, which is pretty serious for 227 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: an aging cornerback. But I think he's all in it 228 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: to win it this year, and Belichick is, and that 229 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: they'll come to some sort of agreement, maybe with something 230 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: similar to what they did a year ago, and they're 231 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: not too worried about mini camp, is my guest. Training 232 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: camp is a little different. Yeah, I mean I think 233 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: he you know, Gilmore has a point. He's the twenty 234 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: four highest paid quarterback in the league. He's making about 235 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: seven million based salary. So it's just you know, even 236 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: his camp is probably saying, look at we've got to 237 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: maximize um, your earnings. Your thirty one in September. Uh, 238 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: let's get you as much money as we can. But 239 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: do I think that you're gonna get a multi, massive, 240 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: multi year deal. No. I mean, but but maybe it's 241 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: just what they did last year, because it would be 242 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: a typical of the Patriots this offseason to suddenly start 243 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: shedding star players. If anything, they seem like a team 244 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: totally trying to bounce back and win the a f 245 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: c's it's funny like you mentioned that Greg about you know, 246 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: weather issues, are having some travel Like this is the 247 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: same Bellichick who remember when the bomb cyclone blizzard hit 248 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: New England and it became a big story in Janus, 249 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: like nobody nobody is late for practice, I don't care 250 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: what you have to do. And the guys were so 251 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: scared of Bellichick that they were all like checking into 252 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: local hotels so they could walk to the facility if 253 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: they had to. Now Belichick's like, oh, you know, it 254 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: is a summer, storms and things of that nature deal, right, 255 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: It's all about the player, because in that case he 256 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: was using that specific example. I remember well in the 257 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: snow too to make an example of a DAILI as Thomas, 258 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: who was on his radar from the moment that he 259 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: signed with New England and that was like one of 260 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: the last OZ And I think he loves Gilmore and 261 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: Gilmore wasn't quite as good last year when he was 262 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: healthy and then he had a pretty serious injury. So 263 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: he's he's a little bit of a question mark in general. 264 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: But I just can't imagine they would they would trade 265 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: him because you're not going to get like another good 266 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: veteran in return. The only draft picks would would be 267 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: what people would send for him. In two thousand nine, 268 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: linebacker Dahlias Thomas told ESPN he showed up nine minutes 269 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: late for a team mating after snowfall nearly caused him 270 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: to get into an accident on the way to the facility. 271 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Belichick sent him home. You guys like shaking up. He 272 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: almost comes killed trying to get big football practice and 273 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: he gets sent back in the car. It's funny because 274 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: they're kind of similar. There two of, if not the 275 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: two biggest free agent contracts the Patriots have ever signed, 276 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: and Dahlias Thomas was a total bust and Gilmore, who, yes, okay, 277 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: he's twenty four in bass salary this year. But that 278 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: stuff is always a little misleading because when he signed 279 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: the contract, it was, you know, it blew the oars 280 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: off for cornerback contracts, and everyone was like, I can't 281 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: believe they're signing someone to the number one cornerback contract 282 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: in the league. It's just since then it's been totally passed. 283 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: He's gotten that signing bonus money and that's why, you know, 284 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: just sprinkle him a little money, Belgic. Stop sweating the 285 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: small stuff. You're out, you're on your boat and you 286 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: know this, Yeah, it doesn't sound like that's what I'm saying. 287 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Sprinkle him a few million and hopefully this will this 288 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,359 Speaker 1: will go away. By the way, over at the piers 289 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: at the marina Marina Marina del Rey, uh Snoop has 290 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: a boat out there, a big purple yacht. And there 291 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: was another one, a really obscenely large yacht um called 292 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: the Hotel California. And the you know how with the 293 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: boat on the back it's the name of the boat, 294 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: and then where it's from, and it was Winslow, Arizona, 295 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: which is you know famous line from Take It Easy 296 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: by the Eagles. I figured that, as Don Henley noted 297 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Dick of rock and Roll, um with an obscene ugly 298 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: yacht parted rain adel Rey. These just things you noticed 299 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: when you're ound on. Well, was anyone embarrassing on that boat? 300 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: By the way, did anyone on our boat? On our 301 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: on our boat, everyone was I wouldn't say good behavior, 302 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: but everybody was able to uh comport themselves with dignity. 303 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: I saw one woman on a neighboring yacht, um and 304 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: we were on a yacht. We were on like a 305 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: little party pontoon basically, but a woman being she was 306 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: completely passed out and she was on the top level 307 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: of this like multimillion dollar yacht and they had to 308 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: carry her body and she was a large woman, had 309 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: to carry her body straight down, Uh, like some like 310 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: a ladder to get her down to the main level 311 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: of the boat so they could get her off the boat. 312 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: And I guess get her into an ambulance. I hope 313 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: she's that's like an alcohol poisoning scenario that son I 314 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: will get you. Um. And also speaking of the since 315 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: we're in the Patriots realm, Greg and you mentioned bus, 316 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: did you see this report from the Boston Herald that 317 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: nikkil Harry And maybe that's just an observation and don't 318 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: put too much into it. Could be fighting for a 319 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: roster spot this summer. This is a first round pick 320 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, Greg, and I went and checked out 321 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: your projected Starters series. You don't have Harry listed as 322 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: a starter of Patriots. Obviously made some big signings across 323 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: the board on offense. Uh. Do you would that be 324 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: stunning to that if Harry got cut third year of 325 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: his career as a first round pick, did I have 326 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: a note that he's not a lock to make the team. 327 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't. You didn't. I went to check specifically see 328 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: if you would addressed it. That's why I wanted to. 329 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: He looks like, yeah, I should. He looks like the 330 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: fourth receiver. But then if you're like the fourth receiver 331 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: and you don't play special teams and he has been 332 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: a stiff, you could very well see them do one 333 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: of these fake face saving trades August twenty where they 334 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: trade him for a conditional seventh, which is like, the 335 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: condition is nikkil Harry is no longer nikkil Harry after 336 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: we trade him, which you know they don't get anything 337 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: for him that it wouldn't shock me. He's he's not 338 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: looked good. It's not like it's rough that that that 339 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: would be rough. He was taking four picks before Deebo 340 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: Samuel nineteen before A. J. Brown, And then out of 341 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: curiosity is like, who else in that first round is 342 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: no longer with their team? And there two interesting cases. 343 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: You had one quarterback of course, Dwayne Haskins, and then 344 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: Giant safety DeAndre Baker, who had major legally well, that's 345 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: usually the earliest that first round pick ever gets cut 346 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: is training camp of their third year. And that's even 347 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: that's pretty rare. But that's like that, that's like always 348 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: the unless there's something crazy like the two men, the 349 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: two guys you mentioned all the Haskins. I guess that 350 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: was just that was an al Teimer. That's a lot 351 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: of time. Uh. In other news, another Rosenthal favorite, Russell Wilson, 352 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: spoke to the media at the end of O t 353 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: AS late last week and he addressed, you know, all 354 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: the drama that swarmed around him earlier this offseason and 355 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: how in some ways they got blown out of proportion. 356 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: Let's hear what Danger Russ had to say, you know, say, 357 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: I love Seattle, I love playing here. Um, you know, 358 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: I've had I've had a great career here so far. Um. 359 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to play here for my whole career. Obviously. Uh. 360 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: I think there were some you know, unfortunate frustrations after 361 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: the season. Obviously, want to win it all and do 362 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: it all and do everything you can, you know, and 363 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: I think everybody on our team does. We we all 364 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: want to win it and um, you know, I think 365 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: unfortunately got a little uh you know, um, a little 366 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: bit blow blown on proportion, a little bit mm hmm. 367 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: I was race. I don't know, like who who's the 368 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: Unford If you're saying that they they had unfortunate feelings 369 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: and he's including himself and that that would make sense. 370 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he had a little bit he was saying 371 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: right after the season, there were some frustrations about how 372 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: things ended, first round exit after a twelve and fourth season. 373 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: But you're you know who you are, Russell Wilson. You've 374 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: spent years building yourself up to where you are. Your agent, forget, 375 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: forget all the off the record stuff that they were 376 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: clearly doing. His agent literally went on the record with 377 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter enlisted the more teams that he would be 378 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: traded to, and so they asked Russell Wilson, I don't 379 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: know who it was, but kudos because that was the 380 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: follow up to have about that quote. And he was 381 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: just like, well, I just wanted to, you know, make 382 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: it clear if they were going to trade me, where 383 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: would I want to go. But the Seahawks were like, oh, wait, 384 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: we don't want to trade you. We never brought that up. 385 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: John john Snyder was clear about that. He was on 386 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: the record to this. Yeah, So to try to like 387 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: paint that as like it was blown out of proportion. 388 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: You guy literally was like, I just I just threw 389 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: a piece. But I agree, I agree with you were 390 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: saying he's not he's a little clumsy with how to 391 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: play the game. There are other guys out there that 392 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: can do this in a way that doesn't lead to 393 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: this type of I wouldn't call us a mia Kulpa. 394 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: But walking back certain elements of his offseason strategy, well, 395 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: what about the the anecdotes of him storming out of 396 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: meeting rooms and you know, being so upset with the offense. 397 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think when he was at the Super 398 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: Bowl sitting with Goodell watching Tom Brady, um, you know, 399 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: win it again after going to Tampa Bay and having 400 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: incredible say and pull on a new franchise that started 401 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: him in five other quarterbacks down this road of malcontent 402 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: status and yes, it got it, got it, JUSTI it 403 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: didn't happen for me, didn't get moved. I think they 404 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: addressed his concerns to some degree by trading for a 405 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: couple alignment and adding people and you know, resigning Chris Carson. 406 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: But like had the Bears trade scenario been okayed by 407 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Seattle and Russell, Wilson wants to finish his career with 408 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Would he have been okay going to Chicago? 409 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: Would he have been okay being traded or just none 410 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: of that happened. So now you're back in front of 411 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: reporters and you have to make good with all this 412 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: um of surge drama that occurred, right, I get. I 413 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: just have some faith in the audience a little bit here. 414 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: It's like we can handle the truth. You don't have to, 415 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: like everyone sees through this stuff anyway. So you know, 416 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: Seahawks fans are gonna love you if if you play well. 417 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a tricky thing to like go 418 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: back and you know, get them back all on, all 419 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: on your side. But I don't know, just be honest. Um. 420 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: Speaking of malcontents, Levy on Bell UH, currently without a 421 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: job in the NFL. He made some news earlier this 422 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: week by coming after Andy Reid on social media, UM, 423 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: writing I'd never play for Andy Reid again, dot dot dot. 424 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: I'd retire first, uh. And then this had one of 425 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: my favorite headlines of UH the year so far the 426 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: off season. Levyan Bell apologizes for public comment about Kansas 427 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: City Chiefs coach Andy Reid, but does not regret at 428 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: all what I said. That's not really how it works. 429 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: Levian walked it back thusly, I said what I said, 430 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: and I don't regret at all what I said. For 431 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: those who have a personal problem with me because of 432 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: what I said, that's fine. You have your right, just 433 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: understand I also have my right for how I feel 434 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: about my personal problem with dude because of what he 435 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: said to me. Bell, of course, was cut by the 436 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Jets um in the middle of the season after signing 437 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: a huge deal with New York a couple of years earlier, 438 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: and bombed out there, went to Kansas City, wasn't even 439 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: didn't even play in the n f C title game 440 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, and now is back on the 441 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: on the street. And this is probably not a way 442 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: to hang around in the league going on going public 443 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: with this stuff. But that's what he did. And he's 444 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: an outspoken dude, and he always has been. Who would 445 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: have thought a couple of years ago, Uh, you know, 446 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: you go back to seen which is great season. If 447 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: we said in one, I mean running back careers changed drastically, 448 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: But like Wayne Gollman has a job right now, Taiwan 449 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: Jones is on a roster and Levy on Bell cannot 450 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: find a job and to to waste um the fact 451 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: that I mean the a we're discussing this and it 452 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: was you know, it's a light time for the NFL, 453 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: and it popped up, and so of course we're going 454 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: to but the fact that this is something that was 455 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: I had to ponder in my mind, this stupid scenario 456 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: um going after Andy Reid without clarifying what it was 457 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: Andy Reid said. And then as you said, Dan, a 458 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: totally um, a totally false, absurd, fraudulent, uh semi apology 459 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: that really wasn't one at all. I just I find 460 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: it to be extremely mentally tired. Probably the agent saying, hey, hey, dummy, 461 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: go apologize on Twitter. We're trying to get you a job, 462 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: and he couldn't do it. He couldn't successful at all. 463 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: It's a lot of apologies are like, I'm sorry if 464 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: you were offended. This wasn't this wasn't quite that. This 465 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: was just I apologize, but I don't regret what I said, 466 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: which doesn't just doesn't make any sense. Uh. Yeah, It's 467 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: it's that time of year where this was a comment 468 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: as a it was like a response to a comment 469 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: and someone else's Instagram post or whatever. But I think 470 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: the reason why it made news not just because oh wait, 471 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: you know still around, is no one, no player has 472 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: ever disliked Dandy Reid, Like that is the one NFL 473 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: coach that seems to have like a ninety nine point 474 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: nine percent approval rating and that every like the ultimate 475 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: players coach. So when when you talk on Andy Reid, 476 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: I think then that got people's attention. And it's funny 477 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: when when he was talking his way out of New 478 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: York and he was burying Adam Gates, everyone was kind 479 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: of siding with Bell because everyone knows Adam Gaze was 480 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: in over his head and really bad at communicating. And 481 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, I was like, I think 482 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: this one's getting like a little mixed up because I 483 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: think Adam Gaze is awful as a head coach and 484 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: a communicator, but I also think that Live Bell is 485 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: a bit of a knucklehead. And and now he's doing 486 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: it again at at this latest stop, you said it, 487 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: You said it, Mark. At two thousand seventeen, you could 488 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: say Levian Bell and tied Gurley with the two best 489 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: running backs of football, and neither of them have a 490 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: job here in June two Thoe, both still in their twenties. Alright, 491 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: the post the post stealers Levian Bell and Antonio Brown 492 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: experience has made not just Mike Tomlin looked better for 493 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: keeping the train on the tracks for as long as 494 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: he did, but just the decisions to let them go 495 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: better in Hindsey. One last note on this honey Badger, 496 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: he chimed in um on the controversy, or if you 497 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: want to call it that um, He tweeted, these fellas 498 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: blame everybody for their lack of success. That's how I 499 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: know I'm built different. That that cuts the fellow star, 500 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: Uh tyrone Matthew. All right, here we go. Moving on. 501 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, the former number one overall pick entering a 502 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: very pivotal third season in the NFL with the Cardinals. 503 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: And this feels a little trophy a running quarterback sharing 504 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: his feelings in the off season about wanting to run 505 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: a little bit less. Let's listen in to Kyler Murray. Honestly, 506 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: the way I see it is, uh, you know, my 507 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: legs should be a luxury um and and it kind 508 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: of it kind of wasn't like that last year. It 509 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: was kind of me, um having to run for us 510 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: and souf or in a sense, and um, you know 511 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: once once, you know, I was you know, my shoulder 512 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: was named up or whatever, and I was, you know, 513 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to put myself out there and take 514 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: those hits and stuff like that. We kind of we 515 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: kind of took a law and you know, hit a 516 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: law and you know, honestly, I think it was good 517 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: for us. You know, I think it was a lesson 518 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: for us that, um, you know, we we can't be 519 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: one dimensional. We just gotta be better in all all areas, 520 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: all aspects of the game. Mark we were socially distanced 521 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: in my old garage. Uh, last late last season, it 522 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: was a Thursday night game, I want to say, maybe 523 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: late November when he injured that shoulder, and that maybe 524 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: gets slept on a little bit of their their season 525 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: and he was never the same after that. Maybe he's 526 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: he's thinking, I need to avoid that type of injury 527 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: happening in there in the future. But at the same time, 528 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: like this is what makes them special, right it is. 529 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean it totally, It totally neutralized their offense. You know, 530 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: they scored after that game nine fewer points per game. Uh, 531 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: And it was an offense that I found frustrating to 532 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: watch to begin with, especially in the red zone. And 533 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: we've talked Cliff Kingsbury, but when you took away his 534 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: running element, because you know, they tried, he played hurt. 535 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: Give him credit for that, but he wasn't able to 536 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: just take off and run the same way they were, 537 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: not that they just were not. They were easily kind 538 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: of suppressed on offense, and that they fell apart they 539 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: were six and three. I mean that that Hail Mary 540 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: game against the Bills feels like a million years ago 541 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: because the way that season ended. So I hear what 542 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: he's saying, just because in terms of like career longevity, 543 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, no one had more rushing yards outside of 544 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson than him on the ground from the quarterback position. 545 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: But if you do take that away, what's special about 546 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: their offense? From from looking at them today, I just 547 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: don't see something special at all. Yeah, I'm glad I 548 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: heard the quotes with him saying it because I think 549 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: he's talking about his own improvement too. I mean I 550 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: think he's talking about I don't I don't want to 551 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: rely on that either. And we had to he was 552 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: on pace to break Lamar Jackson's rushing record before that injury. 553 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, Okay, players are just better now 554 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: in terms of athleticism than they used to be. But 555 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: to me, he's there with Lamar and Michael Vick as 556 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: the three best running quarterbacks ever. Just in terms of 557 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: just purely good at running, he is an unreal I mean, 558 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: he still put over eight hundred yards. He made guys 559 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: missed and and I think that was part of the 560 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: excitement early in the season was he was just making 561 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: stuff up. But they did not have a lot of 562 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: plays within the structure of the offense. And I think 563 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: the other NFC West teams, which you know, have some 564 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: big defenses, the Rams and the forty nine, they seem 565 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: to have a pretty good beat on what Kyler Murray 566 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: wanted to do and knew how to stop it. Transaction Wire, 567 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins signed linebacker Jerome Baker toly three year, thirty 568 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: nine million dollar contract extension. That is the same Jerome 569 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: Baker coming up back to back century mark tackle season's 570 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: career high seven sacks. Good for you, young men, get 571 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: Shaw dollar, Jamison crowd are gonna have less dollars in 572 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: his pocket uh this season after rap sheet reported that 573 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: the Jets renegotiate had their deal with the wide receiver. UM. 574 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: I heard from a little Bertie basically got his salary 575 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: slashed in half. UM. So he's probably gonna make it 576 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: in the area of five million on a one year 577 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: deal and still not out of the question that he 578 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: gets traded um before Week one. And finally, Nick Mullens, 579 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: the former forty Niners quarterback, has signed with the Eagles. 580 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: A bit of an interesting landing spot because, of course 581 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: your favorite Mark Stone age pony, Joe Flacco is they 582 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: are already backing up Jalen Hurts. Um. You wonder if 583 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: Mollens is a camp farm or a legitimate option for them. Mullins, Like, 584 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: I get that he's, you know, not maybe a starter, 585 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: but Mullins did some good things in San Francisco. I 586 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: kind of wondered if maybe, you know, with the Niners 587 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: link in New York, that maybe the Jets would have 588 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: gone after, um, someone like Mullins. They've got James Morgan. 589 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: It's a little telling, to be honest with you. Why 590 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: the like I wouldn't want anything to do with it 591 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: there crazy? I mean, remember they always show those stats 592 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: of like the best yards per attempt in the first 593 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, a thousand throws of his career, and it's 594 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: like Nick Mullins is there with Dan Marino, and I 595 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: think he's a great example of like if you're a 596 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: football fan or you're not like plugged in seven on 597 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: the team, you looked at some of his games and 598 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: his numbers are like, oh, Nick Mollins is good. And 599 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: then the forty Niners couldn't wait to get rid of him, 600 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: and then he sits on the market for all this 601 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: time before getting Yeah, he's coming off an injury, so 602 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: that that's partly why I think he took so long 603 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: to get signed. I don't even know if he's healthy. 604 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: He has come back from an elbow that is true, 605 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: John or anything, but it was an elbow injury. They 606 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: of these three signings, the Baker one, it was such 607 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: huge money. It just got me thinking how the Dolphins 608 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: are very unpredictable team. And one of the reasons I 609 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: think they're unpredictable is I don't know if, like any 610 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: team disagrees with PF more than the Dolphins. PFF has 611 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: a pretty large influence I think in the way that 612 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: the media, including myself and others talk about players and 613 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 1: a lot of times at these positions when it's like, 614 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: but I don't really have that how to Jerome Baker take, 615 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, you head over to PF and PFS you know, 616 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: buried him as one of the worst players. And the 617 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: Dolphins also have made these moves where they've cut or 618 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: traded players who are very highly graded at PF. They 619 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: seem to love their young offensive line with PF hates. 620 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't know like what this all means in the 621 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: long run, but it's like they just gave a guy 622 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: who PF things is one of the worst linebackers in 623 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: the league, like massive money. So we'll see who's right, 624 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: Miami or PFF. The war is on. Well, I mean, 625 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: if you like what Brian Flores said about him, like 626 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: Brian Flores loves him, and they've got Jail and Phillips 627 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: and you know this guy can rush the passer, he's 628 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: good in coverage. They also though, like, which is rare 629 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: for a linebacker, do you resign a manual log? But 630 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's someone out there. And also Mike is 631 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: SICKI who I think is like definitely someone to hold 632 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: onto is in the final years contract. They're gonna have 633 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: to start paying players soon. It's interesting with Crowder and 634 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: the Jets last season when the season opened and it 635 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: was a forgettable season on so many levels. But do 636 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: you know Chris Hogan was their starting wide receiver. He's 637 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: now in the National Lacrosse League and now flash row. 638 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Jets are loaded a wide receiver 639 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, but all of a sudden, it's 640 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: like it's gotten to the point where Jamison Crowder, especially 641 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: with the emergence of Elijah Moore, who people are going 642 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: nuts about and every right of about the Jets having 643 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: an amazing initial camp with the team, that Crowder doesn't 644 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: really have a spot. He was there clear cut number 645 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: one last year. Um, we'll see how that old sorts out. Well. 646 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: I I would like to say they should keep them. Yeah, 647 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: I think I think smart teams need like four or 648 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: five options now in the passing game, and the Jets 649 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: are one of those teams that has it. It's awesome. 650 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: And shout out to Chris Hogan, by the way, we 651 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: were there while he was making some catches in the 652 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the Super Bowl comeback against the Falcons, 653 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Chris Hogan, a little bit of a forgotten player in 654 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: that game, made some pretty big plays in that game. Chris, 655 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I actually lost a sandwich bet because I think I 656 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: had a sandwich bet something along the lines that that 657 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: he'd have a hundred and twenty yards receiving. Didn't go 658 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: that high, but I know he had at least four 659 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: or five catches in some big place. I I because 660 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: I blocked out a lot of that Super Bowl second half. 661 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: But I do remember more with the Miami Dolphins as 662 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, Chris Hogan seven eleven, always open. 663 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: He was one of those the great underdog stories of 664 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks about seven or eight years ago. Greg, I 665 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: want to check in here. You know we're this on 666 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: this podcast. We're tracking that Denver Broncos quarterback room very close. 667 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm not putting them in the show anymore. Let's stop 668 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: this please. And you had pointed out no, I think 669 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: it's only fair. It's only fair, Greg, because when you 670 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: wanted to surface von Miller uh quotes when he was 671 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: apparently giving a little nod to Teddy Bridgewater as the 672 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: guy he wants to be the quarterback. I must just 673 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: let you know that Bond's going ball ways on this one. Okay, 674 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: So they're asking him, uh, they're asking him about Aaron Rodgers, 675 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: and Vaughan said, listen, I gotta ignore all that stuff. 676 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, why hold on, wait a minute. He said, 677 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: We've got Drew lock That's who we're running with. That's 678 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: who we're going into the season with until anything changes. Greg. 679 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: That is a shot across your bow directly. Well maybe 680 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: he maybe he's a leader on the team that heard. 681 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: You know, Locke wasn't too happy about these other conversation, 682 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, so now he's just trying to make up 683 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: for it. You know, I don't know, people have talked. 684 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: I think that one shook Greg up a little bit. Mark, Yeah, 685 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: I don't, but I Menakis pointed out to me just 686 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: you know recently, Teddy seventeenth in QBR last year, thirteenth 687 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: in completion percentage over expected. Hey, the stats are the stats. 688 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: The stats don't lie, you know, they don't. That's never lie. 689 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: That's true. They're having a tough time though. The receiver's 690 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: dealing with both quarterbacks because people are saying that Drew 691 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: Locks passes and I'm not saying the guy is Mr Accuracy, 692 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: but Uh, that they come in fast, hard, but that 693 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: Teddy's balls, like Teddy's throat football throws are like these looping, 694 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: more looping arrangements where it's tougher to they don't come 695 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: to you as quickly and so it's you can't they're not. 696 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: Both quarterbacks are very different. Which one would you rather have? 697 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: I'd rather have the catchable ball and we've seen those 698 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: Drew Locket rocket bats firing into the shideline since since college. 699 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: I want that like Chad Pennington after his third shoulder surgery, 700 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: looper comeback player of the year. He made it work. 701 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: Uh was awesome. He was awesome. By the way, since 702 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: it's the total offseason depth right now, I do have 703 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: a Chad Pennington take. I think I think he's pretty. 704 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: He's now like used this some sometimes as a as 705 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: a not a punch line, but it's like, oh yeah, 706 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: this guy who was nice, he like overcame like shoulder 707 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: and your people do. I don't think I understand what 708 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: a baller Chad Bennington was. He is historically underrated, like 709 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: he had incredible quarterback skills and if he had a 710 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: better situation app points like he would have won even 711 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: more games. He was a great player, That's all I'm saying. 712 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: I think what he really got danged for more was 713 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: he was in the Tom Brady draft and he was 714 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: a first round pick. So everyone says, oh, the Jets 715 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: they below it Tom Brady one and eight seven picks later. 716 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, especially before he got hurt. One of the 717 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: better Jet seasons of the last twenty years is when 718 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Pennington replaced an aging Viney test of Verdi and the 719 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: Jets won the division in a playoff game in two 720 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: thousand two. He was a legit badass. Hurt his shoulder. 721 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: His next level like the throws he could make an 722 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: attempt because of his accuracy. He is one of the 723 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: best throwing like quarterbacks of all time in terms of 724 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: putting it where he wanted to right and great with 725 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: the play action. He really was. He was the best 726 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: Jets quarterback in my lifetime until this kid, you know, 727 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: the Chipotle kid, came along. Zack Wilson is now he's 728 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: already superseded, I like to think. So that's the way 729 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be positive about this. Finally, in the news, 730 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: I did a little search of this just so I 731 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: had the article in front of me and It came 732 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: up the Spanish language version for ESPN dot com, and 733 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: I just thought the headline was funny. So here it 734 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: is Dallas Cowboys. Then Ezekiel Elliott in la major forma 735 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: de su vida, which means sound the trouple art Graver 736 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: triplet triplet that means Dallas Cowboys. On Zeke Elliott, he's 737 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: in the best shape of his life. Art oh boy, 738 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: cess was ready for vacation. No, no, no, I mean 739 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: it's I actually like I went back and looked at 740 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: a couple other off seasons and there were there were 741 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: similar headlines in like Cowboys running back Zeke Elliott is 742 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: still in Cabo, reportedly in great shape. Ezekiel Elliott's weight 743 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: is at the lowest it's been since his rookie year. 744 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: I will say this, if there's one thing, like one 745 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: of the first conversations I had about football with West 746 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: was about running backs, and he really am I think 747 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: bought into when you found a running back hit the 748 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: scene in August in like truly great shape. Uh. Then 749 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: they started to run really hard in the preseason. It 750 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: was predictive of a big year. I mean, Elliott, if anything, 751 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: played behind an offensive line last year that was an 752 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: absolute injury wrangled mess. They had three the three best 753 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: lineman Zack Martin, Tyrone Smith and Lall Collins played a 754 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: combined six hundred snaps six eighteen snaps, a hundred and 755 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: fifty four and zero. I mean they just didn't they 756 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: were They were a hot mess. So would Elliott in 757 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: good shape be better? Maybe? Is it a trope? It's 758 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: a huge trope. Well, it should be stated that his 759 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: backup ran really well last year and looked better than Zeke, 760 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: and he did he had a hundred attempts. I mean, 761 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: do you that I like Pollard a lot, but did 762 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: you is Pollard suddenly like I'm not saying Elliot, I'm 763 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: just saying it's not like that line. I mean, if 764 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: Pollard was bombing out as well, I just think Zeke 765 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: Elliot probably maybe? Yeah. Was it the same guy physically 766 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: last year? Maybe? And now he's realizing that this is 767 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: his money's involved here because if he's in trouble it 768 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: Covid missed a lot of work, like he um, he 769 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: is someone he's a trope being in the best shape 770 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: of his life personally, like this has happened three times. 771 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: He does you know for what it's worth you know. 772 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: I think it's tough to put this on players too often, 773 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: but I having gone to ox Nard very often, like 774 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: on the first day of their training camp or a 775 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: couple of times. This story is always either Ezekiel Elliott 776 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: is totally out of shape and winded, or Ezekiel Elli 777 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: is an amazing shape. And it seems to go every 778 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: other year, like you know, and that just seems to 779 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: be where he's been as a as a player. And 780 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: often when they have when he has shown up and 781 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: people are all excited about it, he does play awesome 782 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: that year. And when he shows up in the you know, 783 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: out of shape, you other than that's what happens. I 784 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: would if I was you know, and I will have 785 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 1: Fantasy draft Um like millions of other people later this summer. 786 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 1: I wonder. I feel like he's a nice bounce back candidate. 787 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: I think so. He was on my team last year 788 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: and I had I shipped him um in a multiplayer 789 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: trade to Handsome Hank's son in about week eight. I'm like, 790 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm getting off. This is Ukulele at thing. He was smart, 791 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: highly frustrating, well done, Mark Well taking advantage of a 792 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: young young child. No, he was not a young child. 793 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: He was making more. Henry's son was making more transactions 794 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: than anyone in the league by two. Um, but my 795 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: team cats are overrated. Was not swayed by that. I've 796 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: concocted a deal with him and we made the playoffs. Plus, 797 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: he's my size of Henry's sons, even like the five 798 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: year old is bigger than me. The five year old 799 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: is larger than his five year old is giant. It's 800 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: going to be interesting. He I think he's going to 801 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: be a professional wrestler. I'm pretty sure of it. Something 802 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: scientific is going on with that that third child, he's 803 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: far too large for his age. Well, it's Alphie right, 804 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: healthy young. I mean, Henry will admit it to Henry 805 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: will admit there's something. He said it. There's something. I 806 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: don't know what the word would be. Something, let's just 807 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: say special. There's something special going on. It's special. It's wonderful. Yeah, 808 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: he could be one of those pro athletes like a 809 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, like six seven to seventy five al muscle. 810 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: Like maybe he's just that's his r Henry is six 811 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: four or whatever. The framework is there, Yeah, are he 812 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: was there on Saturday. Check money it was quite a 813 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: like that was outrageous when I heard that guest check 814 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: Back on the scene. That's how they're mostly known as 815 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: around the NFL guests. But yeah, it's like that. It 816 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: was It was quite a It was nice to see 817 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: how these people I haven't seen in a year plus 818 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: in the flesh. If you know how things work here 819 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, um, certain people that live in like 820 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: certain like if you live in the valley like check does, 821 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: he will never come to the West side of Los 822 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: Angeles or it's surround territories unless something deadly serious is 823 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: going on. So for him to go all the way 824 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: to where uh, Colleen and Gonzo lit they moved to 825 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: that So yeah, that's that's that's a long term. That 826 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: was a show. That was a show of respect, that 827 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: was a kiss of the ring of Connie. Ultimately, absolutely 828 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: there you go. Anything else to add here? Now, you know, 829 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: things are pretty slow in the sports world. Where the 830 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: the top headline right now on ESPN dot com source 831 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: Colin Crowder takes pay cut to stay with Jets. That's 832 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: the number one headline in sports. Now, we're probably jinxing 833 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: it and we're gonna have to do an emergency podcast 834 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: in ninety eight minutes. But that's where things are. But 835 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: we got you caught up today. You know what's going 836 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: on around the NFL after the last forty four minutes, 837 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: We've done our job. I feel like I'm taking a 838 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: pay cut at our at our company to keep doing this. 839 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: I literally did take a pay cut during Corona, and 840 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: there's been no there's been no like, hey, let's circle 841 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: back and correct that. It's like, you'll be fine. By 842 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: the way. We also took water out of the break 843 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: from like, I mean, what next, do you want to 844 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: use this platform to make a formal pitch to the 845 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: powers debate to get that those wages back. I just did. 846 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: I think if they heard that, they understand that I'm 847 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: annoyed and I would like, um it to be addressed 848 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: fast quickly. Now there you go. You heard it now, boys, 849 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: I am getting a little head start. I'm heading back 850 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: East for the first time in two years. Coronavirus took 851 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: so much from all of us. I did not get 852 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: a chance to go see my family last summer. Um. 853 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: I will be on a plane on Wednesday, which means YouTube, gentleman, 854 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: and I'm sure a filling hero to be named later 855 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 1: are going to handle the show. I have full faith, 856 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: absolute faith that you guys can do it, um, and 857 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 1: I look forward to not listening. Yeah, I kinda say please, 858 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: but that's it. I'll be out this week. But we 859 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: got one more show and uh yes, just too. So 860 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: the audience knows, because it's like they around the NFL 861 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: podcast that I will be missing. I'm gonna get my 862 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: whole family around. We're gonna we're gonna check it out. 863 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: Savvy jobs scheduling these vacations. I why am I doing 864 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: all of this activity? I don't I think I wanted 865 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: I should be. We got some of we got just 866 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 1: so everyone knows. Here's the schedule. We got, yes, two 867 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: shows this week, two shows next week, and the network 868 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: show is back next Friday, and then we're gonna go 869 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: dark for a full week and maybe even um the 870 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: July four week. So we're we're we've never really done 871 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: that before, but we thought this year, UM, for a 872 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: lot of reasons, it would be good to take time. 873 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: It's been a tough year and just just spend some 874 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: family time. And we hope you're still there when we 875 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: get back after that hiatus. But we're not there. Yet Okay, 876 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: let's go Justin Graver. A good job, buddy, really nice 877 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: work filling in for Ricky. And I'm sure when Justin 878 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: Graver has a bachelor party it gets as crazy he 879 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: has a Ricky Hollywood Batchel. I'm no doubt about it. 880 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: That would be my guest, just by my limited interactions 881 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: with the man. Thank you, buddy. This is Dan Hands 882 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: a signing off for the whiet Storm, the Old Boss 883 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: and yeah, just Engraver. I call him the undertaker behind 884 00:46:17,840 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: the virtual glass until they heed the call t to 885 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: TA