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Speaker 1: Night in May, fifth year of our lower twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Dare we do it? A show void of tampering talk,

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Speaker 1: done before. We're gonna aim to do it tonight. Be

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Speaker 1: a jam pack hyatope saturated downtown Nashville, Tennessee. Let me

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Speaker 1: on the hard truth. Nick Saban did this, not the

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Speaker 1: rain necessarily, but boy, a lot of somber moods around

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Speaker 1: this sport right now, a lot of chaos and turmoil

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Speaker 1: and gnashing of teeth, and Nick Saban did all of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his fault, but I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you it's because of him. We will discuss momentarily also

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Speaker 1: culture versus boosters. It's kind of an age old debate

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Speaker 1: that into the show somewhere tonight. Clemson mood Tracker, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the mood Tracker's back just called spring ball is in

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Speaker 1: the rear view mirror. Does not mean that we have

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Speaker 1: does it say? We'll tell you what it says about Clemson. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: Bold Predictions are back. This has become our most popular segment.

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Speaker 1: I asked the question what Jesse like three or four

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Speaker 1: barrel of all the bold predictions you have that you

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Speaker 1: Maryland tuned in tonight. They're watching us in Perrysburg, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Good people in Perrysburg. Larrymie, Wyoming tuned in and gwelp.

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Speaker 1: so much for being tuned in. Let's dive right in

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Speaker 1: because we did an absurd an hour and fifteen minute

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Speaker 1: in under seventy five minutes tonight. How could Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: do this to you? How could he do this to us?

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Speaker 1: How could he leave college football in such a state

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Speaker 1: right now. Now we're not going to talk about him

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Speaker 1: by name only because I've promised you guys earlier. Today,

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Speaker 1: me talking about it. It's your show, it's not my show.

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Speaker 1: So we hit the redirect button and I come in

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Speaker 1: today and Jesse had texted me. I was in traffic

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Speaker 1: and he said, boy, do I have a stat for you?

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Speaker 1: And normally when Jesse promises something he under delivers. It's when

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Speaker 1: today he kind of hit it out of the park.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. So stat's an info

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Speaker 1: elsewhere referred to as Jesse hits me with this stat

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Speaker 1: today he looks over in the SEC West. I tweeted

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Speaker 1: it out. Here's the screenshot. Since two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 1: there have been more head coaches in the SEC West

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Speaker 1: I should have stopped and let it sizzle for a second.

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Speaker 1: Some people tried to match it infinitely. More people just

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Speaker 1: A lot of people freaked out. They lost their mind

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Speaker 1: year two. This is not an easy schedule. I know

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Speaker 1: some people in the SEC or Big ten may look

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, I trade mine in a heartbeat for that. Well,

429
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Speaker 1: first off, if you're in the Big ten West, you wouldn't. Secondly,

430
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Speaker 1: you're not. This is Texas, this is them. So I

431
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Speaker 1: think this is an eight. And also think about this,

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Speaker 1: this is a trend in the wrong direction. I had

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Speaker 1: Jesse recite to me their record. What's the trend over

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Speaker 1: the last few years? Twenty eighteen ten wins, hashtag we're back,

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen eight wins, not so back, twenty twenty seven wins,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one to five wins. So you're telling me,

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Speaker 1: we're going ten, eight, seven to five all the way

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Speaker 1: up to the playoff. I don't think that happens over

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Speaker 1: the span of one, so I'm gonna put that in

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Speaker 1: an eight. Next up, a statement even bolder than the

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Speaker 1: previous two, at least in my mind. Notre Dame wins

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Speaker 1: out in Marcus Freeman's first year undefeated Irish team. This

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Speaker 1: is a nine bordering on a ten. This is just

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Firstly, because of who they play. In

445
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Speaker 1: Week one. They go to Ohio State, so I would

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Speaker 1: call it a nine if you just said they're gonna

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Speaker 1: go beat Ohio State. So I guess this may be

448
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Speaker 1: a ten for me. Overall, Notre Dame has not had

449
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Speaker 1: an undefeated season since nineteen eighty eight, to make clear

450
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Speaker 1: how bold this prediction is. Secondly, this schedule is. It's

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Speaker 1: tough because most Notre Dame schedules are. That's one of

452
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Speaker 1: the biggest misnomers in college football. Notre Dame's not in

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Speaker 1: a conference, so Notre Dame has an easy schedule. They don't.

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Speaker 1: They never do. That's just a total myth. They go

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Speaker 1: to Ohio State in week one, they go to North

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Speaker 1: Carolina later in the year, they got Brigham Young. The

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Speaker 1: week after that, they got Stanford, week after that Clemson USC.

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Speaker 1: Also on this schedule, Boston College is not going to

459
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: be an easy out. The week before they go to USC,

460
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Speaker 1: they got a game in Las Vegas, they got a

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Speaker 1: game in Baltimore. This is not a slate that, with

462
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Speaker 1: all due respect, the Irish, with a new quarterback in

463
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Tyler Buckner pending health, is going to run the table

464
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Speaker 1: on This is not gonna happen. So that's a nine

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Speaker 1: or even a ten. And also, what is the meat

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Speaker 1: of the roster. In other words, if we go back

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Speaker 1: to the recruiting rankings mainly from twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

468
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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty, because that's the true senior and junior

469
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Speaker 1: laden meat of the roster, they were twelfth in the

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Speaker 1: country in twenty eighteen, they were fifteenth in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and they were eighteenth in twenty twenty. Those aren't bad classes,

472
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Speaker 1: but those also are not classes indicative of a nucleus

473
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Speaker 1: that's about to run the table. Here in a head

474
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Speaker 1: coach's first year, I don't buy that. A good team

475
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,959
Speaker 1: but not equipped to go undefeated. Now, the next thing

476
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Speaker 1: is not nearly as tall a task to pull off.

477
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Speaker 1: Nebraska goes bowling. That's what we're looking for in Lincoln

478
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Speaker 1: these days. This is a four to me. This is

479
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Speaker 1: not bold, not overly bold. At least, no bowl game

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Speaker 1: the past five seasons for Nebraska. How rare is that,

481
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Speaker 1: you might ask, Well, the last time they went five

482
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Speaker 1: consecutive years with no bowl appearance was the fifties, like

483
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Speaker 1: the Eisenhower administration. I think that would have been he's

484
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Speaker 1: on the dime, he's on currency. That's how long ago

485
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Speaker 1: that was. So it's not been much to write home about.

486
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Speaker 1: But I think also one of the most famous stats

487
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Speaker 1: in college football right now, if you follow it at

488
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Speaker 1: a hardcore level, is the whole three and nine wasn't

489
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Speaker 1: really three and nine for Nebraska last year. On one hand, yes,

490
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Speaker 1: you lose nine games, you lose nine games, but as

491
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Speaker 1: it relates to predicting the upcoming year, they were three

492
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Speaker 1: and nine last year and zero to eight in one

493
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Speaker 1: possession games and the other loss was by nine points.

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Speaker 1: So just out of the realm, almost zero to nine

495
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: and one possession games. How much better do they have

496
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Speaker 1: to be? I was talking about this on the Late

497
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Speaker 1: Kick Extra pod yesterday too. How much better do they

498
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Speaker 1: have to be? It could be that Nebraska brings back

499
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Speaker 1: a team totally equal to last year's and they win

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Speaker 1: seven or eight games, at least six games by the

501
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Speaker 1: nature of nothing more than the ball bouncing their way

502
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: like that many close losses. It's almost hard to pull

503
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Speaker 1: that off, Like that's one of those reverse luck trends

504
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: that just cannot carry over year to year. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: if we look at their schedule, they do not play

506
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Speaker 1: Ohio State in the regular season, They do not play

507
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Speaker 1: Penn State in the regular season. They don't play Michigan

508
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: State in the regular season. They got a game at

509
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Speaker 1: Michigan late in the year. That four game stretch to

510
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Speaker 1: end it Minnesota at Michigan, Wisconsin at Iowa. I would

511
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Speaker 1: strongly advise Scott Frost to already have found six wins.

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Speaker 1: Luckily he has Northwestern, North Dakota, Georgia, Southern, We got Rutgers, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois,

513
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Speaker 1: like there are easily six winnable games there. Casey Thompson

514
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: has transferred in from Texas that you're presumed starting quarterback here. Also,

515
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: the Big Ten has a number of bold high ends.

516
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: So if they can get the six wins. We don't

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Speaker 1: have doubts about whether they're gonna make a bowl. They've

518
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Speaker 1: also got the twelve ranked portal class, so I think

519
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to find three more wins here.

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Speaker 1: This is a four on the boldness scale for me.

521
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the craziest thing in the world. Lastly,

522
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Speaker 1: we're going to the Big Ten here, and this is

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Speaker 1: something that I want you ahead of the curve on.

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Speaker 1: When preview magazine season rolls around, you're gonna hear this

525
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Speaker 1: a lot more. But it's may right now, so I

526
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Speaker 1: want you to adopt this mentality with me so that

527
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Speaker 1: we're ahead of the preview magazine culture. Daniel is predicting

528
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Speaker 1: perdue to make the Big Ten championship game. Now you're

529
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: thinking to yourself, what, well, keep in mind, the Big

530
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Speaker 1: Ten has that whole inequal division set up to where

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Speaker 1: it's very possible, like someone has to make it from

532
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Speaker 1: the West every year. It's kind of the general rule

533
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: or joke running joke in the Big Ten. No team

534
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: from the West has won the Big twelve or the

535
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Speaker 1: Big Ten since twenty twelve, and if you exclude Wisconsin

536
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Speaker 1: from the equation, there hasn't been a team from that

537
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: division that's won at what Jesse since they went to

538
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: the formats crazy. So anyway, they were nine to four

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Speaker 1: last year. They kind of sort of beat Tennessee in

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Speaker 1: the bowl game. It's as far as I want to

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Speaker 1: go there. There's a great, big asterisk to me next

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Speaker 1: to the ending of that game. Either way, good season

543
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: for Jeff Brohm and the boiler Makers last year. This

544
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: year's schedule is a travesty, but it's not their fault

545
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: and they should not apologize. This is how uneven the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten is right now. Purdue does not play Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Purdue does not play Ohio State. Purdue does not play

548
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: Michigan State. They do play Penn State, but they get

549
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Speaker 1: him at home to start the year, and that's about it.

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00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: They don't draw anything else with so much as a

551
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: pulse from the opposite division over there. Now, Yes, Lance

552
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: and anyone else listening, I know they don't have Rutgers

553
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: there either. So I did not disrespect Rutgers point being

554
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: just the most workable schedule for any Power five team,

555
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Speaker 1: especially in the Big Ten. Also, what are we talking

556
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Speaker 1: about here. We're talking about making the Big Ten championship game,

557
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: not winning it. They just have to make it there.

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Speaker 1: This is very seeable. This is a five for me

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Speaker 1: on the boldness scale. Purdue, you know you hear them

560
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: and you don't think contender. It's very important to understand

561
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: the context talking about making it to Indianapolis. Oh, they

562
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: could absolutely make it there. So that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: five and no more on the boldness scale for me.

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Speaker 1: I have breaking news. It's not really breaking, let me

565
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: false advertise, but it's breaking for us. We have a

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Speaker 1: check in from South Korea, Giju Island in South Korea.

567
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Speaker 1: They are tuned in tonight. Manor, Texas and Florida also

568
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: tuned in. Let's talk about programs for a second, not

569
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Speaker 1: the movie, but just the anatomy of a program in general.

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Speaker 1: As I put something here in the live chat, thank

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Speaker 1: you guys for watching. Got to prove them live sometimes.

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Speaker 1: We had a question today. I'm just gonna read you

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Speaker 1: the question. I'll tee it up that way. Ryan asked

574
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: what is more important for a program, culture or donors

575
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Speaker 1: henceforward to be referred to as boosters on this show,

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Speaker 1: Schools with big boosters more frequently win championships, but can

577
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: also be bad and schools with less boosters but better

578
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: culture are more consistent, but not contenders. So this is

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Speaker 1: an age old question. What's more important having those deep

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Speaker 1: pockets or having a rock solid culture. Well, I would

581
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: say to win it all, you know, to float at

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Speaker 1: the highest level to Tier one level in college football,

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Speaker 1: it's essential to have both. I don't care how good

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Speaker 1: your culture is. If you don't have money, you cannot

585
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Speaker 1: win at the highest level in this sport. But money

586
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: does not guarantee you anything. So the best way I

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Speaker 1: can put this for you is good culture does not

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Speaker 1: guarantee anything. Bad culture absolutely does guarantee something, and that

589
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: something is not good. It's kind of like if you

590
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: think about top soil. I could have the most fertile,

591
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: rich top soil in the world out in your garden.

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Speaker 1: They're in the backyard. The top soil is not going

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Speaker 1: to grow anything. I've still got to put the seed

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Speaker 1: in the ground. I've still got to water it and

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Speaker 1: cultivate it and harvest it. But if I got bad

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00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: soil in the backyard, no amount of hard work will

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Speaker 1: make it produce anything. So there's a lot of kids

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Speaker 1: out there in a lot of programs with bad culture

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00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: who work their tails off. Think about the mixed message

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Speaker 1: this sends to an eighteen or a nineteen year old

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Speaker 1: kid who is told their whole lives, you got to

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Speaker 1: work hard for what you want. And let's say they

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Speaker 1: embrace it and they go to a program and the

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Speaker 1: culture is subpar, and so they've got just crappy soil,

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00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: and yet they're planting and planting and planting. They're investing,

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00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: and they're spending their time the right way, and yet

607
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: they're getting nothing in return. They're losing on saturdays, their

608
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: draft stocks not where they want it to be. What

609
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: kind of mixed message must that send, especially to a

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Speaker 1: young kid. If you're forty four years old, maybe you

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00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: get it, but if you're nineteen, I can't guarantee that

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00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: you understand what's going on there. And that's going on

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00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: a lot. So why you watch sometimes and you can

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00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: go to practice and you can see hard hits and

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00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: ultra physical nature of practice, and you can see guys

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00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: lifting in the summer months. Some people would refer to

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00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: that as a word that starts with an oh, but

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Speaker 1: we don't. And you think, how could this team lose? Like, look,

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Speaker 1: look how serious they take this. The soil in what

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00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: it needs to be. I don't know what else to

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Speaker 1: tell you now. There is a misconception out there, two

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Speaker 1: of them actually, that I wanted to hit on right quick.

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Speaker 1: The first misconception is that money solves things. In college football,

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Speaker 1: money alone doesn't solve anything. Texas is the prime example

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00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: of this. Texas has limitless financial resources, and they've been

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Speaker 1: horrifically bad relative to what they should be the last

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Speaker 1: number of years. It certainly hasn't been a money issue.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been a donor issue, well at least in

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Speaker 1: terms of financial resource. But it has been a donor

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Speaker 1: issue in another sense, and this is well documented with Texas.

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Speaker 1: This is not a bash on Texas kind of show

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Speaker 1: or segment or anything like that, but money sometimes fools

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Speaker 1: people into thinking, even if things start to go sideways,

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00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: don't worry, because we got a lot of money and

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00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: we can just throw it at the problem. I asked Jesse,

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00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: I'll ask you. Can you find me anything in football

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00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: or society that merely throwing money at with no design

638
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Speaker 1: or purpose behind it or plan behind it solves No. No,

639
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: we're not exactly doing a segment on government right now,

640
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: but it's very very correlated to what we see. A

641
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: lot of times you throw money at something, you just

642
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: probably waste a lot of money. You've got to channel

643
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: the money, you got to channel the resources, and in

644
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: football it has to be tied in culturally to a

645
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: very solid foundation, or else you're just lighting your money

646
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: on fire. But then the follow up to that is

647
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: misnomer number two. The other misnomer in college football is

648
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: that booster equals bad. There's always a pejorative connotation around booster. Now,

649
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: boosters aren't bad at all. Some of the greatest people

650
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: that make some of the greatest things you experience on

651
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: your campus or in your game day environment and setting

652
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: in your stadium, and what's available to players is because

653
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: of the deep and bountiful but also philanthropic pockets of

654
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: those boosters. You need them, you have to have them.

655
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: A booster that has a warped view of what their

656
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: role is in a program, now, that is a bad thing,

657
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to disassociate. There's very famous stories

658
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: out there about what Nick Saban did when he got

659
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: to Alabama. There were some folks that had long since

660
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: become used to running things up there and sort of

661
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: walking around with a certain gravitaze and a certain authority

662
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: because of the check they to the university there every year.

663
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: Nick Saban looked and said, I could take your job

664
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: or leave it. I do want to come there, but

665
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be me or these folks. It's not

666
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: going to be both of us. I'm not about to

667
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: try and compete with dudes who own a rubber cement

668
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: plant in Tuscumbia. No, I'm running the program, and if

669
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: they want to get on board with my way of

670
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: doing things, great, we'll win multiple championships. But if they don't,

671
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: then it's either me or them. Guess who got disassociated

672
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: from the program. It wasn't Nick Saban. He's still there today,

673
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: So I think it turned out okay. You've got to

674
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: have someone running your program that understands the difference. And

675
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: it's a fine balance. Even Nick Saban is not immune

676
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: to this. Nick Saban has to sit there and grit

677
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: his teeth sometimes and spend a day on a golf

678
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: course in the middle of July with folks that he

679
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: may not in an ideal world be hanging out with.

680
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's got to do it, Dabbo's got to do it.

681
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying those guys also understand where the line

682
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: is drawn, and some coaches, especially young ones out there,

683
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: I speak like I have experience. I've heard the stories.

684
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: That's my experience. I have experience hearing stories of young

685
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: coaches that just they had no grasp on where that

686
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: line was, Like, who do I allow to have access?

687
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: How much access? We couldn't have had this building on

688
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: campus without this person. They've been around long before I

689
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: was born. If I'm a young coach, how can I

690
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: tell them? No, Well, here's how you run the program.

691
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: They hired you to be the head coach, not my

692
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: boy over here running the rubber cement plant. So it's tough.

693
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: I just said it was easy. But they're not paying

694
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: you seven and a half million dollars a year to

695
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: make easy decisions. We can do that. They're paying you

696
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: to make the hard decisions. So booster versus culture, you

697
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: got to have both. And if you just have one,

698
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: like you could have for example, great culture limit financial resource,

699
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: you could still do some good things. You're not flying

700
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: at the highest level. Your plane is not reaching cruising

701
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: altitude where it needs to unless you got the financial

702
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: resources to make it happen. Too. We mentioned Clemson a

703
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: second ago, so why not let's just dive back into

704
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: the mood Tracker, also one of our more popular segments. Colin,

705
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: here's a good endpoint for you. Good news, the mood

706
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: Tracker is back. It's time to talk about the Clemson

707
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: Tigers tonight. Kind of put this off a little bit

708
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: back before springball because I wanted to feel out spring

709
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: with Clemson. So the mood Tracker is just a feel

710
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: of the fan base. If you live in Bozeman, Montana,

711
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: you're not usually in South Carolina, you're not around the

712
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: Clemson program, you don't follow the acc I want to

713
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: let you know, not what the preview magazines or the newspapers,

714
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: if any of you are still reading those are saying.

715
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: I want to let you know what the fan base

716
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: is thinking. This helps you be more informed on the game.

717
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: And this is a delicate situation. I don't know that

718
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: there's another situation quite like this out in the the

719
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: contender's sphere of Power five college football, where you've got

720
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: a fan base that feels one way, or they exude

721
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: one attitude publicly, but amongst themselves privately, they have a

722
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: little more trepidation. So, boy, we had a time coming

723
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: up with the mood for Clemson today, but we got one.

724
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: We are labeling Clemson's mood tracker as Muldoon mood, which

725
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: does not make sense to you, nor should it. In

726
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: the movie Jurassic Park, there was this guy. He wore

727
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: Safari gear head to toe. He was in charge with

728
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: controlling the veloci raptors. Remember that guy. He had like

729
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: a thick South African accent, and he wore socks that

730
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: came up just above his calf but below his knee,

731
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: like he was head to toe, almost in a Halloween costume.

732
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: He was a caricature of what you would expect a

733
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: guy who controls velociraptors to look like. Well, he did

734
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: have confidence that he had control over the loss of

735
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: raptors while they were in that cage, and you know,

736
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: electricity was keeping them inside. But once the power to

737
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: the park went down and those raptors got free, things

738
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: were radically different. And so there comes a time. I

739
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: don't want to spoil a nineteen ninety three film for anyone,

740
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: so close your ears if you hadn't seen it, But

741
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: there comes a time where those raptors are out there

742
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: in the jungle and Muldoon and Ellie they got to

743
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: go through the jungle, and so he is exuding confidence

744
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: externally and he tells her we can't. We're being hunted,

745
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: and he has his gun in his hand and he's

746
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: trying to make her think he's got control. He is

747
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: like minutes away from being devoured. Whole good news is

748
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Ellie makes it to the disastrous sequel. She makes it.

749
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: So the point is he knew he could be in

750
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: trouble all along, but he wasn't exuding it. At Clemson

751
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: right now, they know they still got a rock solid defense,

752
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: They know they still got more talent than anyone else

753
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: in that conference. They know that Tiger Paw is still

754
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: the most feared logo in that conference. They know they

755
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: are fourth best in terms of national championship odds this year.

756
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: They haven't disappeared off into the abyss. It's nothing like that.

757
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 1: And they're confident that they'll return to normal this year,

758
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: as normal has become defined at Clemson. But let me

759
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: be clear, that's as far as they're gonna let you

760
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: hear them go. As long as there is a Gamecog

761
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: fan or a Miami Hurricane fan in the room, that's

762
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: all they have interest in sharing with you. But then

763
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: when you guys, however, a South Carolina Miami fan came

764
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: to hang out. When you guys go out there in

765
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: the courtyard and they're just amongst themselves, the tone lowers

766
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: a little bit and they acknowledge I don't know anything

767
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: about these coordinators we just elevated from within. I don't

768
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: know if DJ is gonna be back on track. Just

769
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: because he lost some weight, does that make him more accurate.

770
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: I don't know that our receiver core is any more

771
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: explosive than it was last year. I don't know if

772
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: we've rectified the things we need to rectify to return

773
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: ourselves to just totally dominating this conference with a blowtwards.

774
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm not gonna let them know.

775
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that you know, we're not letting them know.

776
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: We're worried about it. And that is the state of

777
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: Clemson right now. The fan base, they're ultra confident. They

778
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: got a lot of pride in that team, as they

779
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: should have, but they are not without concern amongst themselves now.

780
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: The offense when they look at it amongst themselves again,

781
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: this is they're still out the courtyard we're still in here.

782
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: You look at the offense, and you look at for

783
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: the first time last year, there being a true sense

784
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: of vulnerability with this team, the likes of which you

785
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: hadn't felt in the last several years. I'm not saying

786
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: they win a title every year, but there was a

787
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: different level of vulnerability that this program showed. You've, of

788
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: course got to replace both the coordinators and and let's

789
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: not forget this college football is radically shifting under Daboswiney.

790
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: He's got his philosophy on how he wants to run

791
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: his program. I'm not going to knock a guy who's

792
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: found a way to build a program and win two titles.

793
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he is not embracing some of the

794
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: things that other programs are embracing. And what we really

795
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: cannot know yet because it's just too early in the sample,

796
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: is how it plays out for him, you know, if

797
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't refuse. But it's very reluctant to use the

798
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: portal and the competition elsewhere in the ACC is diving

799
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: into that thing left and right. Does it put Clemson

800
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: at a disadvantage? I think it will, but I could

801
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: be wrong. Do they recruit and develop well enough where

802
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: they don't need it. I think you're handcuffing yourself if

803
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: you voluntarily enter into the equation that way. But also

804
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: with nil, like, how are they going to handle the

805
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: evolving nature of college football long term? Not just this year?

806
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: But it's it's kind of an unprecedented situation if you

807
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: think about it, because Dabo Swingy is in the situation

808
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think anyone else has been in

809
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: Where have you found guy who built a program? He

810
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: didn't inherit it. He built the program as we know

811
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: it now, virtually from the ground up. He also has

812
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: won two national championships and he did it smack dab

813
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of the greatest dynasty the sport has

814
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: ever seen against that team, he beat Bama both times.

815
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: And yet I think it's reasonable that there are people

816
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: claiming he's got something to prove this year. When have

817
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: we ever said that? I cannot, off the top of

818
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: my head ever remember saying that. But I'm telling you,

819
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: if you feel that way, I feel that way too.

820
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: It's not that he needs to validate himself Daboswheny validated

821
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: himself a long time ago. Dabosweny is a Hall of

822
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: Famer if he never coaches another down. I'm not saying that.

823
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is we're gonna see something play out

824
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: this year and next year kind of too, but especially

825
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: this year with Dabos Wwenny's philosophy really being put under

826
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: the microscope. He could have had his choice of many

827
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: coordinators nationally. He was quoted as saying, I made the

828
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: decision in about ten seconds. I didn't feel like I

829
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: needed to go outside. I had the folks right in here.

830
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Someone like me looks at that, and I say, that's

831
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: a dereliction of your service to your program. Don't you

832
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: at least owe it to those folks to look elsewhere

833
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: he's running the program. I'm not. He's got the championship rings.

834
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just saying that's why if I sit

835
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: here and I tell you, I think he's got something

836
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: to prove, it's his philosophy that's gonna be under the microscope.

837
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: To me, this year with the whole portal thing, it's

838
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: something that's under the microscope. Again, it's his approach, it's

839
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: his philosophy. So the reason I keep adding those caveats

840
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: is cause I hear too many people just demonizing his approach. Well,

841
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: the reason I don't do that is because I'm not

842
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: shortsighted enough to have forgotten the times in the past

843
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: where people criticized his approach and it ended up with

844
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: white and orange confetti raining down all over the place.

845
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: And the only problem is those folks who criticize that,

846
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: they don't come back to the table to talk about

847
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: how wrong they were. They get to bash you on

848
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: the front end and then don't have to own up

849
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Speaker 1: to it on the back end. Well, for better or

850
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: for worse, we do an inventory of our predictions on

851
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Speaker 1: this show, So I don't want to be the dude

852
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Speaker 1: sitting here telling you Davils Winny is about to crash

853
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Speaker 1: and burn and then all of a sudden, there they

854
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Speaker 1: are in Charlotte celebrating an acc title in a playoff

855
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Speaker 1: birth again. But I think, yeah, there is something to

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Speaker 1: prove there. Honestly, I don't think he would have it

857
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Speaker 1: any other way. Probably secretly relishes that. Or one more

858
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Speaker 1: question that one of you had that I think was

859
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Speaker 1: a little out of left field, But that's what God

860
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Speaker 1: invented may for. So we go back to the late

861
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Speaker 1: kick mailbag. Colin, here's your n right here. Rev. Tither

862
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: hit us up with a very interesting question. He hails

863
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Speaker 1: from Hull, Georgia. He said, metal bleachers or individual NFL

864
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: style seat swhich do you prefer. You may think that

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Speaker 1: this is a question that doesn't have a place on

866
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Speaker 1: the show, but there's such an underlying theme to this

867
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Speaker 1: question that I can almost guarantee every one of you

868
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: have feel on You may not have a feel of

869
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: metal versus chairback. In fact, most of you would prefer

870
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Speaker 1: the chair back just because it's comfortable. But there is

871
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Speaker 1: an underlying, age old debate in college athletics, especially major

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00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: college football, that this question reminded me of. For those

873
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Speaker 1: of you who are fans at Texas or at Ohio State,

874
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Speaker 1: or Michigan or Alabama or Georgia, the bigger programs Penn State,

875
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: like the massive stadiums, there is a debate that's always

876
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Speaker 1: had internally. It's never really national in nature, but it's

877
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: always an internal debate. It's the younger, mo raucous crowd

878
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: that looks at the older sweater vest crowd, the blue

879
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: hairs as they would call them in certain places, and

880
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: they say, if we could just get them out of

881
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: the stadium and replace them with more of us, would

882
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: have the best game day atmosphere in the country because

883
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: we make more noise, we're on our feet. They're the

884
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: ones telling us to sit down when it's third and short. Well,

885
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: that's one way to look at it. You know what

886
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: they would tell you. They would tell you my outfit's

887
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: worth more than you are. And secondly, this place doesn't

888
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: exist without me. I've written a check that makes what

889
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: you're enjoying here possible. And it kind of goes back

890
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Speaker 1: to the question we were talking about a little while ago,

891
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: culture and booster and how important is a major donor

892
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: class to a university. Well, it's a lifeline, it's imperative.

893
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: And when we go back to this question and we

894
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Speaker 1: talk about the old school metal bleacher look in a

895
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Speaker 1: stadium versus the newer school chairback look, we are drifting

896
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: very radically away from stadiums being full metal bleachers. In fact,

897
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Speaker 1: I don't know many of them at all on home

898
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Speaker 1: campuses that are all metal bleachers. Now it used to

899
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Speaker 1: be they're all metal, but you can pay a little

900
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: bit extra with your season tickets per year and they

901
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: install the chairback for you. Even that is not a

902
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: good enough amenity. Moving forward, basically what they're charging you

903
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: for those season tickets. We're still working on a segment

904
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Speaker 1: about this, by the way, forgotten about what I asked

905
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Speaker 1: you guys to submit. But but as much as I

906
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Speaker 1: say that, and as much as the in stadium in

907
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Speaker 1: person experience is having to be how would I say,

908
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: this is what is the word like luxury fied? It's

909
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: got to be more luxurious. That's what it has to be.

910
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: So added luxury is something that's a necessity for the

911
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: in stadium game day experience now. But as that's happening,

912
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Speaker 1: there is a perfect world still out there to me

913
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Speaker 1: because my personal preferences. I want metal chairbacks, right, I

914
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Speaker 1: want metal bleachers all day. I don't want the chairbacks

915
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Speaker 1: at all, not because I don't really care about your posture,

916
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Speaker 1: not because I'm not cognizant of how tough it can

917
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: be to have scoliosis or curvature of the spine, but

918
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Speaker 1: because I know if I have metal bleachers and only

919
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Speaker 1: metal bleachers, there's a certain kind of person that's willing

920
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: to suck it up and stick it out in that

921
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Speaker 1: kind of environment. And there's a kind of person that

922
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Speaker 1: stays home and says, nah, I'll just go next week.

923
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,479
Speaker 1: The Cotton Bowl in Dallas taught me a valuable lesson

924
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: this past year when I was there for the Red

925
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: River Shootout. Not to be referred to as any other name.

926
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Speaker 1: This place is all metal bleacher. It's as old school

927
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Speaker 1: as old school gets. It's obviously neutral site for OU

928
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: in Texas fifty to fifty split right there at the

929
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Speaker 1: fifty yard line. And my biggest takeaway in what was

930
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: a classic game when I came back. Those of you

931
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Speaker 1: who watched the show the following Sunday, remember I told you, guys,

932
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: I have seen the light. There's not a luxury suite

933
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: to be found in this place. There's not a chair

934
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: back to be found, and as a result, everyone there

935
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: is a die hard, rabbid, full throated, all in, foaming

936
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Speaker 1: at the mouth fan who is making as much noise

937
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: as they possibly can cause. The kind of person willing

938
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Speaker 1: to sit on a metal bleacher in ninety plus degree

939
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: heat for four quarters is the kind of person who

940
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: can undo the top button and really let loose, and

941
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: they did in mass to the tune of over nineth

942
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Speaker 1: two thousand plus at the Cotton Bowl. That's how it

943
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Speaker 1: is every year. I just was fortunate enough to finally

944
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Speaker 1: experience it. But that's not Austin, that's not Norman. They

945
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: are probably on those campuses upgrading year over year the

946
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Speaker 1: game day experience. Don't mess with the Cotton Bowl. One

947
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Speaker 1: of the big debates that happens out in Big twelve

948
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Speaker 1: country is whether they should move the Red River shoot

949
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: Out from the Cotton Bowl over to Arlington Jerry World,

950
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: which would be a sin, a crime against college football

951
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: to me. The Cotton Bowl. The Cotton bowls as good

952
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: as it gets for a regular season neutral site environment,

953
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Speaker 1: and those metal seats are a big reason why. So

954
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Speaker 1: it's the kind of person that's willing to sit on

955
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: that metal bleacher in that blazing sun for four quarters

956
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: and not care and be drenched in sweat and just

957
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: pour that emotion out. Anyway, that's a different kind of

958
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: client tell than what you know, good and well you're

959
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: looking to attract. If you move that thing across town

960
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: into Jerry World, you already got the Big Twelve Championship

961
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: game over there. You already got college football playoff games

962
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: coming through there, You've got national championships coming through there.

963
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: Leave the Red River shoot Out alone. Please, you've got

964
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: your hands all over everything else in the sport and

965
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: messing it up. Please just leave the Cotton Bowl and

966
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: the Red River shoot Out alone. That is my passion plea,

967
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: And I know I've got I got a lot of

968
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: backup on that from actual fans who actually go to

969
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: games out in Big twelve Country. I've got to ask

970
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: you guys to do one thing. It's really simple. Subscribe,

971
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: That's all I need. Subscribe to the YouTube channel. A

972
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: lot of you are watching but not subscribing, even though

973
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't change anything, and it's free. So subscribe to

974
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel and the podcasts. Just subscribe. That's it.

975
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: You still download it like normal. You just subscribe. That's all.

976
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: There's no other catch. It don't cost anything, doesn't subscribe

977
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: you to anything like mail bag wise. It just it

978
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: helps us. You still get the same thing it helps us.

979
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys. A lot of stuff happening around here,

980
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 1: really really excited. So we appreciate you guys for a producer,

981
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Speaker 1: just for director Colin. I'm Josh, Babe, have yourself a

982
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: right to start to your weekend. We'll see it back

983
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Speaker 1: your Sunday night. Until then, God bless