WEBVTT - Pretty Little Liar Ashley Benson 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.320 From my arm Radio Common Enemy contenderm with TV The 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:15.680 Pal Podcast Pal Hey Pal with Jared and Hi David. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.239 How are you? Do you like David or Powell? Like? 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:19.560 If I were to only call you one for the 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.040 rest of your life, what would you say? Really? I 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.600 like my mom, says such a mom's But we're both 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:31.840 such moms? Are we are? Oh? Man? It is so true. Yeah, 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.440 we finally have connected on something the only women that 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:40.640 love us. That is hitting too close to home. David 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.000 is now taking our personal life and bringing it to 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.680 the podcast show, which is not cool. So I'm just 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.879 gonna go back to Hey Pal, Hey Pal, because that 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.920 brought out too many sets of emotions which I approved 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.400 bright red right now? We really are both bright red. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.200 It's unreal. It is unbelievable. All right, let me think 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.680 of something that we can talk about. Um, traveling, Yes, 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.160 where Where where are you going to travel to next? Well, 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.920 ironically and funny enough, I'll be probably going to Hawaii 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.120 with my mom. I take my mom to Hawaii. That's 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.920 cool every year. That's awesome. Yeah, we go to Maui 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:14.520 and I'm excited to do that. Do you do do 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.480 you do any sporting events when you go to or 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.680 in anything. What do you do when you go? I 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.679 mean we go hiking? Um, I like to go sporting, 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.440 take helicopter ride. Okay, okay, that's exciting sorts of stuff. 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.840 Come on, now, come on, pal um, Well that's fair. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:34.920 Have you ever been to a sporting event in Hawaii? 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.560 That'd be kind of interesting. You know what the Iron Man? 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.800 No way, that's that's did not compete. And anyone that 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.160 watches the show and sees me physically knows that I 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.920 didn't compete. But yeah, seeing that in person is pretty cool. Yeah, 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.680 that is cool. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, well I'm 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.160 glad that you like it. How come you don't never 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.919 ask me any questions back? Because it's of no interest 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.040 to me? Right? Well, that that makes sense. That would 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.160 make sense of why you don't ask any questions. I Oh, 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.360 you're going to Dallas. That's your next trip. It's very exciting. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:06.680 Do you think I'm Dallas all the time? Pretty much? 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.200 So let's talk about the next thing. Yeah, I want 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.160 to ask you one question before we get into our 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.800 by the way, unbelievable guests today. I mean, that is 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.720 so cool that we have you know, who comes on 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.760 the hay pal podcast Um. But if you could go 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.840 anywhere and it's not fully related, because this is how 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.120 I like to ask these questions, not Philly or Dallas. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:27.440 I just want to ask you. Let me ask you. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.800 Stay with me, Stay with me. I love you, David. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:35.600 I mean pal is Um. What what city would you 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.360 want to go and what sporting event would you go 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:45.840 see in that city? And it can't be anything fully related? Okay, um, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.000 I would like to go. And by the way, I'll 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.280 give you anywhere in the world. Anywhere, anywhere in the 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.000 world day if you get to pick what, I would 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.040 like to go to the Cricket World Championships in India. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.440 Is that real? I don't know. I mean there's definitely 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.600 Cricket World champion No. No, I meant, is that is 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.080 your aunt? Is your answer real? Oh? Yeah, you just 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.280 improved it. Have you ever been to India. I've always 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.720 wanted to go to India. I think it'd be cool 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.120 and to see something like cricket, which it might not 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.320 mean a lot in the States, but globally and especially 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.600 in that part of the world, it's massive. I think 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.959 that'd be pretty cool. All right, Well, for all the listeners, 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:20.040 remind me to never ask Dave a question that doesn't 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.400 involve Philly or else. It's going to be massively boring. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.480 All right, what would you want to go? Now? Are 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.600 you asking me a question? Sadly? I am your reciprocate. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.200 This is what would you want to reship is growing Dallas? Well, 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:35.640 we can't pick down a rodeo. A rodeo and Dallas 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:40.160 very exciting. Yeah, Yippika, I will have you know that. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.240 I've never been to a rodeo, but that would be 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.520 fucking awesome. I would go to a rodeo. Would you 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.760 go with me? I would do that. Should we do 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.440 a hay Pal podcast from Audioca? Yes, Kyle? Can we 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.040 do that? K yeah? Alright, our producers to do it. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.480 You know where we could go? Actually, where is We're 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.400 going to have possibly J. J. Watt on the show. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.800 He's a pal, that's true. So we go to Houston, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.640 go to a rodeo show I like it, and call 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.480 and have J. J. Watt be on the show. I 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.240 like it. This could be Oh, I think you know what? 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.680 Sign me up. I thank you for letting me go 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.960 back to Texas, unlike me not letting you go back 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.280 to Philly and pick that We're not going to India. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.520 We're now going to a rodeo in Houston, Texas comb Horns. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:20.320 I think this is the I think this is a 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.000 great time to now introduce our next pal. Well, our 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:27.160 next pal is a dear pal of mine. Um. She's beautiful, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.400 she's talented. A lot of you know her from her 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.599 long running successful series Pretty Little Liars, where she played 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.880 Hannah Miron and Um, she's just an amazing talent. She 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.280 just started doing some music. She just did release a 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.720 song with g Easy. They did a remake of the 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.120 Radiohead song creep Um. She's also an entrepreneur. Happens to 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.560 be my business partner in our sunglass company, Purvey Revolt. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.560 I thought I was your business partner, the very talented 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:57.680 and beautiful Ashley Benson. Ashley, how are you doing? What's that? 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.800 I like your red room, look at the at the quarantine. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.720 Where are you I'm in I'm in a recording studio. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.440 Love it? I love it now. Ash You've been to 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.320 some major sporting events all over the world over the years, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.560 like the US Open. You and I actually want to 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.960 see nay More play soccer or football in Paris. You're 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.800 a big baseball fan um and you know, there's just 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.440 tremendous pressure that it's on an athlete to perform. Now, 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.200 how do you think the pressure of being on a 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.000 film set when you have a big scene compares to 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.520 the pressure of being an athlete and one of those 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:34.440 big moments. God, I don't know. I mean, I think 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.160 it's it's you know, during the entire game of like 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.279 you know, either like baseball, football, basketball, whatever, I think 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.360 the pressure is there the entire time. There's a lot 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.480 of In my mind, there would be like a lot 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.760 of anxiety for me. And like film, whenever you step 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.640 onto a set for the first time, you're always you're 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.600 always completely nervous, Like I I freak out every time. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:56.720 But then I think it's like once you go to 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.360 like hair and makeup and you start like rehearsing or whatever, 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.520 and you get to meet like, you know, everyone on 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.000 the crew, which is usually what I what I do first. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:05.760 I usually show up on set and I just go 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.440 running meet everyone because you know they're the ones who 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.719 are like watching you and helping you, and you know 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.360 you have to kind of be really vulnerable in front 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.159 of strangers so you've never met before. So I always 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.760 try to make it a point to where I just 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.279 know everyone's name and like you can funk around with 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.440 them and uh laugh and do all that. Ship. But um, yeah, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:26.880 I don't know. I mean I usually get nervous the 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.760 day before, like that day day of, and then once 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:35.280 I start filming, Uh, it kind of goes away weirdly. Um, 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.200 I'm most comfortable on a set, which is bizarre because 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.640 anything else at least to like with like talk shows 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.320 and like photo shoots and ship, I'm like, fuck this, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:51.320 I hate so much. Podcast. Well podcast, I don't really 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:56.839 have to do anything. I just talked nonsense. Um. But yeah, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.920 I mean, I don't know. I'm I'm very I'm weird, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.720 very very comfortable uh in front of a camera when 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.480 I when I'm filming. Um, but there's definitely anxiety. But 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.640 I do think, you know, I don't know if I 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.480 was if I was an athlete, i'd be like nervous. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.000 My friend who used to play football, like in high school, 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.040 he would throw up every before every game, and then 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.320 after every game, Oh my god, like just it would 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.200 just you know, you just throw up everywhere. Well I would, 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.720 I would say, David, and and maybe maybe you agree, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.120 maybe you don't. But I would say, actually that Ashley's 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.400 you know, in that parallel world is Ashley's job is harder, 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.160 even though she's saying, you know that it's that she's 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.840 more comfortable. But it's like, look, she she brought up 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.760 a great point is is she goes to set right 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.760 and the most she's probably done is a table read. Right, 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.280 you know, you get cast in a new show, she's 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.000 done a table read, and now it's like, off you go. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.160 You gotta act like you know, this person is your 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.840 best friend, this person is you know there when when 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.880 even though it's law, I've and the sporting event is 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.520 happening in real time, unlike your show. You you know, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.880 you get a couple of takes, but they've been practicing. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.920 They all know each other intimately, you know, they've they've 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.640 gone out to dinners and movies and they've been running plays, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.000 you know, over and over, and now you're just thrust 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.440 it in front of a camera. So I actually think 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.120 in that in that world, it's kind of like the 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.920 actor that is the harder job right there in the 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.200 universe of you know, teammates and stuff. Right now, that 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:26.960 makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.240 Did you know you know what you brought up? Table reads? Yeah? 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:36.280 Those the fucking worst. Well why what? What is the 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.480 first thing that comes to mind of Like why it's 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.920 anxiety if you if you get a job and you 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:43.560 show up at the table, you can get fired on 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.679 the spot, right, You're just done. You know. I hate 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.839 table reads. I'm always like, please just give me a chance, Like, 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.240 just put me in the right by the camera. It'll 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.959 be good because to be honest, you it's like you know, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:00.320 when you're a table reader, Um, I don't are just 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.240 sitting in a fucking empty room and again, like people 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.640 have to hear the words you know, um, and I 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.600 know like why it's necessary, but again you feel that. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:10.959 I think you feel more pressure as an actor in 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.760 a table read having to perform for like all the 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.640 exacts and um, people that you don't really know, like 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.439 hope it plays out, but like you can you can 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.199 get fired from the table where it's like those things 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.120 scare the living hell out of me. Whenever everybody's sizing 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.640 each other up and checking each other out right, Which 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.440 is really interesting because one of the questions that we 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.560 wanted to ask, or at least I wanted to ask you, 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.199 is that, like, you know, is let's just take pretty 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.920 little liars. For example, you know you you get the audition, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.320 which is ultimately in our parallel world, Uh is you 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.800 got drafted, you know, and and so you were the 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.080 number one pick for for that role. And just like 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.360 when an athlete gets drafted, so is it. I think 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.320 it is harder when an actor gets gets drafted because 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.680 when an athlete gets drafted, they know what they're getting, 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:57.280 just like they know what they're getting when they cast 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.680 Ashley Benson. Right. But but when you go to the 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.280 table read, if you're having a bad day, they might 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.520 go to whereas of a player, I feel like it's 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.040 more forgiving. If they have a bad practice, they're like, no, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.079 it's all good, get back out there. But she's so right, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:13.559 they could just go, uh, we don't know, let's do yeah, yeah, 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.320 Which makes it really that that table read makes it 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.240 that's that's a pressure table read. That's a definitely a 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.520 lot of presure, we don't we don't want terrifying stuff. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.560 Don't go anywhere. Hey, Pam will be right back after 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:36.440 a workspons. Speaking of pressure, you're actually in a recording 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.600 studio right now, and you just came out with a 0:10:38.600 --> 0:11:03.600 great song, Creep with g Eazy, So great song. Let's 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.319 talk It's a Radiohead cover. Yeah, I love them, And 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.079 let's talk about that. Because you're known as an actress 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.680 and as a performing people know you for that music. 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.719 You've done a little bit of music. How did that 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.160 all come about? How did that happen? And let's talk 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.480 about the difference in pressure between you know, film and music. 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.560 Music has always been a part of my life, I guess, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.920 but like I'm a huge fan of Radiohead, and um, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.959 I don't know. I've always had a weird attachment to 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.760 that song. And again it just felt right, like because 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.960 again I'm not a singer, so I was like, well, 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.520 this could this could be doable if I were to 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.480 cover it. But also I'm just obsessed that song. So right, 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.959 So let's talk about the nerves the first time you 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.960 stepped up to the mic to record that. In comparison 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.400 to like what an athlete goes, were you nervous that time? 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.320 I mean yes and no. But like I with anything, 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.360 I do, like just don't let me like see or 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.120 hear anything because I'm like, wa, wait one more time, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.679 more time? Right, It's usually that it's just like I 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.679 become like kind of like O C D like refectionists. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.160 It was very much that way over time. What time? 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.400 Over time? Um? But yeah, I actually, I mean I 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.240 think I don't know anything that you do, and especially like, yeah, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.280 recording music or whatever. I think the only thing you 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.439 can do with that because it is so intimate. It's 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.319 like it is right there. And if you sound like ship, 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.800 you sound like ship honest Um, So you just kind 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.120 of have to laugh about it and be like, oh, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.240 this could be bad or just like try it. Yeah. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.600 Now you work with some talented actors, obviously you're pretty 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.480 little liars cast, including Shane Mitchell, Lucy Hale, Spring Breakers, 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.360 James Franco, Selina Gomez, Vanessa Hudgins, just to name a few. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.800 If you could only choose one to compete in a 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.480 few sports with, would it be so? Who would be 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:50.800 your doubles tennis partner? Oh, that's a that's a great question, Dave. Damn. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.120 I think Shay she would be your double tennis partner. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.400 Why I think so? I don't. She's really fucking competitive, 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:05.080 just like we okay, and also if we lost, we'd 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:10.040 be like whatever. Um No, but yeah, I think I 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.120 think Sha or Vanessa would be a really good one 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:19.400 to doubles tennis. All right, how about bowling? Yeah, bowling? Um, shoot, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.520 any of those people really, and it could be anybody 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.000 that you've worked with over the years. Bowling. Frank l 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:33.800 Angela really, I just I just shot him. I don't know. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:38.400 He's just he's so funny, like he just like I 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.400 don't know. He just makes me laughing and he gives 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.640 like no ships, you know, and he's like he's Frank, 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.320 He's like he's a legend. Yeah, he's like such a 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.360 smooth dude. And like you got to kind of be smooth, yeah, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.360 to be a bowler, Like you got to be smoothing, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.760 you do, right, And like you can just see Frank 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.960 Lingela being like excuse me, Ashley, and he just goes 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:03.080 up and it's just like strike effort. He just like 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.920 throws it and like, all right, we'll have to keep 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.719 it in mind for the hate Pal bowling team. Yeah, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.199 we will, I know exactly, all right? In two on 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:18.320 two basketball, who would be your your partner in basketball? Um? Oh, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:23.720 Harmony Kren probably Okay, Well, when he was first showing 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.280 me the first kind of the movie, we were in 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:31.040 a studio, uh in l a like this, like really small, 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.760 like weird, like den and I watched it on a 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.640 really small TV and I was like, what the fund 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.600 did I just watched like I didn't know if it 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.880 was good or bad. Like I was just like, wait, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.080 what what just happened? He was like, let's go shoot 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:47.720 hoops and I was like all right. So like then 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.200 we played basketball for like a half hour, and then 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.760 we came back and watched it again, and I was like, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.800 I love this movie. What do you what did you 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.960 guys improve a bunch of that in that movie? Oh 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:03.960 my god? Yeah, everything was Yeah, I was improvse Yeah, 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.800 that movie is So have you seen the movie? Dave? 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.000 You can't. You're not even gonna say no if you haven't, right, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:09.720 what do you mean? Of course I would say no. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.000 Of course I would say no. I'm not a liar. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:14.840 So you haven't seen the movie. I have not seen 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.600 that movie? What the hell? I haven't seen it. I'll 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.360 watch it tonight. I just called out. Dave's gonna be 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:25.320 so mad at me. I'm hot. I never watched my 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.000 work at all. I never ever ever do because I 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.200 get really in my head and I get like super weird. 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.040 I will watch form Breakers, like I haven't watched it 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.200 probably in a year, but I always just like I'm 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.200 like I should watch it, and it's like without being 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.880 in it, it's I love the film, Like it's so 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.280 good and like Harmony's a genius, James is amazing in it. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.880 It's just like a fun just a fun film. I know, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.920 it's an amazing movie and it's got a bit of 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.200 a it's got a huge, huge following. Um, and obviously 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.520 I've seen tons of photos of it and James with 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.240 the corn Rows, like you know, I mean, it's it's 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.480 as there is a scene in their devo which I 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.640 want you to text me after you've gotten done watching 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.480 it that like rocked my cinematic world is where, Um, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.840 I'm not gonna give too much away, but basically, Britney 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:14.080 Spears makes a sort of cameo. Right, Actually, that's a 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.040 good way of saying it, right, That's that's Harmony's favorite scene. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.800 Is that that is my fucking favorite? Yes, So Britney 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.680 Spears makes a cameo. Right, We'll say Britney made Britney 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:27.440 Spears made a lot of weird cameos in that film. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.440 She had multiple He'll but he'll know the main He'll 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.920 know the main one. Yeah. Well, it's it's absolutely it's 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.160 like it's it's magical. Yeah, one of the I think 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:42.040 it's one of the greatest moments ever in films. So 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:46.640 Ashley so so Pretty Little Liars went seven seasons. It created, 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.880 which I just learned today, it created to spinoff shows 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.240 from Pretty Little Liars. Um you know, millions and millions 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.440 of viewers. And in my my estimation and in my opinion, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.720 when a show does that mean day we're talking about 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.880 this earlier, is that's a that's a dynasty, right, like 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.600 that you have done what like sports teams try to 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.320 do in winning back to back championships or something like that. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.560 Like that, that is a dynasty because not not many 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.560 shows can say they went, you know, seven years and 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.520 X amount of episodes, And so I guess our question 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.840 for you is, you know, is what what do you 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.040 think is harder? Because you are so immersed in the 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.080 entertainment industry, do you think it's harder for a show 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.080 to create a dynasty, so to speak, or do you 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.960 think it's harder for a professional organization to create a dynasty. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.159 I don't know, I think the show just because you know, 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.119 it could be so hit or miss and if you 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:41.120 find that sweet spot, which we did. Um, I mean 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.520 look when I signed onto that, I thought it would 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.480 be like three years maybe you know, to go to 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.840 seven seven years and be successful the entire time, and 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.239 we could have kept going to be honest, Um, but 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.360 it was just time to end it. I think that's 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.480 really you know, you don't really get a lot of 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:02.200 shows like that. Um, it's it's you know, it's very 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.159 rare that that happens. And then it's still good, you know, 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.399 the quality of it. Show is gonna go on for 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.760 years and years and years, but it's just the same thing, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.119 you know, and it's it can get kind of boring. Um, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.920 we just had to really you know, are the writers 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:18.800 and our producers. We just had a really good team 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.680 behind us. And yeah, I mean they made it. They 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.399 made it be a huge success for so many years. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.520 And it still is, you know, to even have like 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.640 spinoffs and stuff like that, like it's crazy and only 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.239 and I'll even say that, I think you're right, and 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.520 I think that it's even harder because your show was 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.600 not a procedural. You know, it's not like one of 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.959 these Law and Order shows, uh that you know, like 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.240 it's a it's it's a it's a show that you 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.440 know has a whole story, Like you have to start 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.600 watching from the beginning to watch this thing. And so 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.119 to go seven seasons, you know, the Law and Orders 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.000 and all that. I'm not demeaning them by any means. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:54.600 You know, what they do is special too, but you 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.000 can just hop in at any time, and with this 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:58.760 you can't just hop in. You know, you gotta get 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.240 the background and you gotta go from from point A 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.200 all the way to the end. So the last seven seasons, 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.879 I mean, I agree with you. There's a lot of parallels. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.639 You know, she said that you know it was just 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.479 time to move on, and you know, just like we 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.080 just saw Kevin Durant, it was like, you know, it's 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:12.399 time to move on. So there are a lot of 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.760 a lot of those things. But I think to create 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.840 a dynasty on a show like that is I mean, 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.760 that's hard, Dave, It's very very difficult. Now, you guys 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:24.080 developed obviously a camaraderie. You guys were a team for 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.960 those seven seasons. That final season, what what's that feeling like? 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:30.840 That transition of knowing that you're not going to be 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.080 around those people, You're not gonna be working with them again. 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.080 Their goodbye tour, their goodbye goodbye goodbye tour for a 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.840 professional athlete, So what's what's that like? Day in and 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:44.240 day out? It was devastating, devastating. It was really tough, 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.959 and like I would just kind of look away from 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.439 the camera to and just see like my they were 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.600 like my family, like the crew members that you know, 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.159 the cast, everyone was like you know, I saw them 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.160 more than my own friends and family for seven years, 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.800 for sixteen hours a day, for ten months out of 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:03.680 the year. Like I spent so much time with these people. Uh, 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.639 and it was heartbreaking. Like I just walked on the 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.560 set and have to walk off because I just started 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.359 bawling my eyes out. It was really hard, and like 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.800 I remember, we have we have like the very last 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.920 moment of all of us in the cast on camera, 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:22.800 and I mean it was just it's so sad, it's 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:27.400 so it's so sad. Um And then like two days later, 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.840 I left and moved to New York. I was like gotta, 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.560 you know, I wanted to change, and like that was 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:34.959 just such a big you know it was basically all 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.160 my twenties, um, and it was such a big part 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.760 of my life, and I think, you know, once that 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:43.200