1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Oh, welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis n. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. We started late this week because we 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: had Monday off. I'm glad I got the day right. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: That's always a challenge when you used to doing daily radio. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: So high five to me on that one. Boom we got, 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you got to take the 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: wins where you. 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: Can get up. 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: I whif on that, you know, probably every three months 10 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 3: or so. So it's a good start. 11 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Happens to the best of us. But I got it today, 12 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: so that's good. 13 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: We got Trump speaking to everybody all across this nation 14 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: right now from the Oval Office alive. He is with 15 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: the the premiere of Poland, and they are Poland, a 16 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: very staunch usilly, great country in Europe. We will bring 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: you anything that is pressing, breaking important from that conversation. 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: We have a few things to talk about today that 19 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: happened right after the show yesterday. You know, you had 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Chicago Mayor Johnson. We're going to get to that in 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: a second here and Trump going back and forth over 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: whether there should be some kind of assistance to deal 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: with crime in the city of Chicago. Trump has said 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: we're going in. He has made this very clear that 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: there is going to be some additional action with law 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: enforcement to try using the federal government's resources to try 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: to bring the crime situation more under control there. 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: This was also interesting, Clay. 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 1: I think we should talk about it a bit because 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: I believe it's a signal of things to come. There 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: was a lethal strike, so a kinetic strike on a 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: outside of Venezuela in the Caribbean, but I think it 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: was a Venezuelan ship was carrying drugs, and we didn't 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: send the Coastguard or the Navy to arrest them. 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: We blew it up. 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Now they were designated narco terrorists, so this is under 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: presidential authority. But that is a clear escalation in the 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: war on the cartels and the war on the fentanyl 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: poisoning of the American people. And I think it's just 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: the beginning of what's going to be ramping up considerably. 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: And our sources in DC have been telling us to 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: expect this for quite some time, and from this administration, 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: we have been hearing that it's just a matter of 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: time before this becomes a bigger fight, and we're taking 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: a different approach to dealing with these cartel It's going 46 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: to treat them like true global narco terrorists instead of 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: some kind of INTERPOL international law enforcement only issue. So 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: we got a few things to update you on with 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: all of that. Oh, and then also a nice video 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: with a happy ending of a boy who went to 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: Chick fil A. He was five years old. He would 52 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Clay share this out. It's going viral. I saw this. 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: He went to Chick fil A. He could not resist 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: those waffle fries, first thing in the morning, five years old, 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: let himself out of house, unlocked the door. It's so 56 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: he's fine, he's back with his parents. I'm sure he's 57 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: never gonna do this again. But there's some funny video. 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: We can talk about that in a bit. If you 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: were five years old, would Chick fil A b the 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: fast food place you would break out of your home 61 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: to get to first thing in the morning. Probably it's 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm forty six years old, and if I broke out 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: of prison, the first place i'd go probably us to 64 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: get a Chick fil A sandwich. So I empathize with 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: the young man intensely. Now let's just update this on 66 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: Trump and Chicago because the governor, Governor Pritzker, Remember this 67 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: is a national story for a whole bunch of reasons. 68 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Governor Pritzker wants to position himself as a Democrat presidential candidate. 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Trump and Pritzker are exchanging words in the media. Brandon Johnson, 70 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: the mayor of Chicago, very much a man of the left. 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: He is going after Donald Trump aggressively on this issue. 72 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Here's what Trump says about it. This was just yesterday 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: after we got off air. Play this has cut four 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: play it. 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: Well, we're going in. I didn't say when we're going in. 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: When you lose. Look, I have an obligation. This isn't 77 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: a political thing. I have an obligation when we lose. 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: When twenty people are killed over the last two and 79 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: a half weeks, and seventy five are shot with bullets. 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: So let me tell you a little story about a 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: place called DC District of Columbia. Right here where we are. 82 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: It's now a safe zone. We have no crime. We 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: have it's in such great shape. You can go and 84 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: actually walk with your children, your wife, your husband. You 85 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: can walk right down the middle of the street. You're 86 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 4: not going to be shot. Peter, You're safe. 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: Trump says he's going in Clay, going into Chicago. We 88 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: don't know when, but he says it's happening, So I 89 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: take him at his word. What do you make of it? 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: I think it's the right move, and I think this 91 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: speaks to Trump's intuitive political gifts to not only do 92 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: what's correct, but also to do things that substantial majorities 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: of Americans agree with. And we'll talk, I imagine, for the 94 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: next several months about this, because the fall story so far, 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: and I know we just officially have got past Labor 96 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: Day and all of you out there that are calendar 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: officionados who want to say the first official day of 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: falls not till September twenty first, Okay, I think the 99 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: number one story of the fall is going to be 100 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: Trump waging war on violent crime. And I think that 101 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: is a phenomenal battleground for Trump to decide to focus on. 102 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: We said, economy, border crime. I think you're with me 103 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: that the economy is starting to fire on all cylinders 104 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: and that by the time we get through into next 105 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: year and the full impact of the tax cuts and 106 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: the accounting changes and all the other aspects, interest rates 107 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: coming down starting in September, there's going to be some 108 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: jet fuel poured into this economic situation. We're going to 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: be going really well, borders completely shut down, and Buck 110 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: they really haven't been able to turn deportations into a 111 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: real major issue. I think they made a poor decision 112 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: to use kill mar Brio Garcia as the front facing guy. 113 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: The other part is crime, and I think the data 114 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: from DC is going to increasingly show something that all 115 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: of you know to be true, which is when you 116 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: deploy more people to try to stop crime, crime goes down. 117 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: I mean, this is not a revolutionary idea. There's a 118 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 3: big article in the Wall Street Journal editorial page I 119 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: was reading this morning. It said, Hey, we know how 120 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: to stop crime. It's to put more police on the streets. 121 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: You had a great tweet which I think is one 122 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: hundred percent right the number of body cams. I think 123 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: this kid going to the Chick fil A is a 124 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: great example of it. We see it through the purview 125 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: of the officer on his bodycam. They are showing you 126 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: that the vast, vast majority of police officers every day 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: are phenomenal at their jobs, and most of what they 128 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: have to deal with is actually people being jerks to them, 129 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: not them being jerks to people. 130 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: And so I think. 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 3: You are seeing the police force, which for most of 132 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: American life we have tended to have a positive view of. 133 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: Starting around twenty twenty, the idea was suddenly you couldn't 134 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: have paw patrol, have a police character. Cops got taken 135 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: off the air. I think it's worth remembering where we were. 136 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: We have now cycled back to where we spent most 137 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: of our time, which is most cops, the vast, vast majority, 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: do a phenomenal job making us safer. We should have 139 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: more of them, not less of them. We should let 140 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: them do their jobs, and we should support them. Not 141 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: that they're perfect. They are going to be imperfect because 142 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: they are human, but by and large, they are every 143 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: single day putting their lives on the line to make 144 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: us all safer. And I think that's where the nation is, 145 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: That's where Trump is, and all that's moving in a 146 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: very positive direction. 147 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: And he said we're going in. On the other hand 148 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: of this, you have Mayor Brandon Johnson, and what he 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: wants to talk about is that red states have a 150 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: violence problem. He wants to make this national and explicitly partisan. 151 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: This is cut eight. 152 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: Here is the one of the worst mayors in the country, 153 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: perhaps the worst mayor. 154 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Tough their stiff competition. But here he is cut eight play. 155 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 5: The vast majority of guns do not come from Chicago. 156 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 5: They are not made in Cook County. They are not 157 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 5: bought in the state of Illinois. These guns come from 158 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 5: Red states. They are coming from Indiana, they are coming 159 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 5: from Mississippi, they are coming from Louisiana. That is the 160 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 5: harsh reality. Whether Republicans like it or not, occupying our 161 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 5: city will do nothing to solve this problem. No matter 162 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: how much work we do or how hard we work, 163 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 5: none of it will ever be enough until the President 164 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 5: decides to end the match trafficking of guns in our city. 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 5: For every gun that the Chicago Police Department fights to 166 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 5: get off the streets, two or three more new guns 167 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: come into our city. Chicago will continue to have a 168 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 5: violence problem as long as Red states continue to have 169 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 5: a gun problem. 170 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: This is a total deflection. It's a frivolous argument, it's absurd, 171 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: and it just shows you, Clay that we're not in 172 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: a two sides are arguing about how to get to 173 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: the same goal situation we're in a Trump is saying, 174 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: let's do something that is almost certain to work, and 175 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: perhaps work substantially. I think it would work substantially and 176 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: on the other side of somebody who says, let's just 177 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: talk about some alternate reality where there aren't a few 178 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: hundred million guns already in circulation in this country and 179 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: criminals will find a way to get them illegally or legally, 180 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: one way or another. 181 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: I live in a red state. I live in one 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 3: of the reddest counties in the country. Buck, you have 183 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: been to my neighborhood. I bet the average home in 184 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: my neighborhood has more guns than by far most homes 185 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: and communities in America. I might be rookie numbers with 186 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: my guns here compared to what you got going up 187 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: there in Franklin County. That's fair in Williamson County, Franklin, Tennessee. 188 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: Do you know what the violent crime is here? 189 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: Buck? 190 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: Basically zero? So I don't want to hear the argument, oh, 191 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: red states have too many guns and that's causing crimes. 192 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: Crimes are caused by people who commit violent crimes. Sometimes 193 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: they use weapons, yes, but the idea gun ownership has 194 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: skyrocketed since twenty twenty in America. There are tons of 195 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: you out there right now listening to us who may 196 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: not have been gun people. And when you saw the 197 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: riots happening, and you saw people unable to drive through communities. 198 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: A lot of you got guns, Buck, I went to 199 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt Law school. As many of you know, there are 200 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: a lot of girls for my class, girls. 201 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: That you would never think are. 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: Carrying guns that live in Red States and in their 203 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: cute little purses on their way into work every day, 204 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: they are carrying handguns in their purses. All over Red States. 205 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: The number of guns has skyrocketed. Crime crime has actually 206 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: started to go down now that we let police officers 207 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: do their job, So there's more guns on the street, 208 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: lower crime. And look, I really think people like Brandon 209 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: Johnson should have to really be held their feet to 210 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: the fire on these awful arguments that they're making because 211 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: it is not guns that is causing the issue in Chicago. 212 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: There are tons of people all over southern Illinois listening 213 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: to us right now who have entire gun safes on 214 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: their property. Violent crime rate very low in rural Illinois. 215 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: By and large. It is people who are criminals committing crimes. 216 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: The way to get criminals to not commit crimes is 217 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: to put them behind bars. It's not to claim that 218 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: Red State guns are causing crime in Chicago. 219 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: These arguments are getting embarrassing. 220 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: Frankly, Also, what's more likely a focus if you're the 221 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: mayor of a city, in this case the city of Chicago, 222 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: what's more likely you're going to find way to address 223 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: a problem in your city, or you're going to wait 224 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: for the rest of the nation to fundamentally change, including 225 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: changing the United States Constitution and then also alter the 226 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: society you live in in a massive way. I mean, 227 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: you've got I don't even the latest numbers, probably eighty 228 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: to one hundred million people who have firearms in this country. 229 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: So the idea is what he says, stop the illegal 230 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: flow of guns. If it's illegal to buy the gun, 231 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: we already have laws and say don't do it. But 232 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: people who want to shoot people because they want to 233 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: sell drugs on the South or West side of Chicago 234 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: don't care what the law says about guns. And all 235 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: that it does is make it impossible for people like 236 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: you and me and your friends from Vanderburgh Law School 237 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: to lawfully enjoy our Second Amendment rights to defend ourselves 238 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: and also to be a check on tyranny. 239 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: Which I will have this argument with anybody. 240 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: After what we saw from the lib authoritarian democrats during 241 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I have never been more set on the need for 242 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: as many good American citizens as possible to keep in 243 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: bare arms. I mean I was already pro two A, 244 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: but now I'm like, I think everybody. I think everybody 245 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: should should have at least off firearm they know how 246 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: to use in their home. 247 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: It's a good thing. 248 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: Laura Travis is going to have an absolute arsenal Buck. 249 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: You're going to be impressed. We're building a house. I 250 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: think she could overthrow some countries with the amount of 251 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: weapons that she's going to watch. 252 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: I have no doubt ordering for the house. I have 253 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: no doubt. 254 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Speaking of being able to defend yourself, we're talking about firearms, 255 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: but also non lethal is critical because in so many 256 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: cases that's what the situation calls for. And also there 257 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: are some people who are more comfortable. My wife is 258 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: one of the more comfortable with non lethal self defense 259 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: like pepper spray, for example, or pepper gel or pepper 260 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: spray launchers. This is where Saber comes in. 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That's 279 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: eight four four a two four safe. 280 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 6: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton mic drops that never sounded 281 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 6: so good. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 282 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 6: wherever you get your podcasts. 283 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 284 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: of you hanging out out with us. By the way, 285 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna hit you with some of the news that 286 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: is coming out from the meeting that the President is 287 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: having right now in the Oval Office with the Is 288 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: it the Prime Minister of Poland? 289 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: The president of Poland? 290 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: Here he was just asked Trump was his message for 291 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: Putin and and how things are going in the Ukraine 292 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: Russia attempt at peace? Here was cut thirty one. 293 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: I have no message to President Putin. He knows where 294 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: I stand, and you'll make a decision one way or 295 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: the other. Whatever his decision is, will either be happy 296 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: about it or unhappy. And if we're unhappy about it, 297 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: you'll see. Thanks, Sam. 298 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: I thought you just heard that was legitimately what the 299 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: President just said last night? 300 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: Was it last night? 301 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: I think he sent out. 302 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: A truth message saying, in response to the meeting that 303 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: is going on between North Korea and UH and China 304 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: and Russia, hey, basically, look out while you're conspiring against us, 305 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: we are paying attention and aware of what you are 306 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: doing there. And I think a lot of people who 307 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: are in this position of expecting Trump to have gone 308 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: easy on Russia, we all know the Russia Russia Russia hoax, 309 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: as Trump says, the collusion lies everything else. Buck, you 310 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: were in the center of that more than almost anybody. 311 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: I actually think Trump's public statements to Putin have been 312 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: pretty darn aggressive, and it's been very difficult for anybody 313 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: to even try to make the argument, Oh, this guy's 314 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: still the Manchurian candidate. Not to say people aren't trying, 315 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: but it's been very difficult to be able to make 316 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: that argument Legitimately. 317 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: We'll see what we'll see means when he says Putin's 318 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: going to make a decision here. Look, I think there's 319 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: some disappointment and frustration from the White House so far, 320 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: there has to be. Trump really made a good faith 321 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: effort to try to broker the end of a war 322 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: that he views as just in everyone's interest right to 323 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: end this thing and get it done. Putin's a nasty guy, 324 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: and he thinks that he still has the advantage and 325 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: there's no screws to tighten on him to change things 326 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: right now, or at least not. He hasn't seen enough 327 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: of that, so he's going to continue to try to 328 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: just chip away at the Ukrainian territory and get he 329 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: thinks a better deal in the end. I mean, eventually 330 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: this war will end. But as some of us saw 331 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: from the beginning. It'll cost a trillion dollars, it will 332 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: take many years, and a lot of people are going 333 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: to die, and it's just a shame that there's no 334 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: way to get it done yesterday, so to speak. I 335 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: wish that Trump was successful, and I wish everybody was 336 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: rooting for him to be successful in this too. I 337 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: know that doesn't really matter. All that matters is the 338 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: end result, Clay, but come on, the people that were 339 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: hoping Trump would fail it was gross. 340 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people were hoping Trump was 341 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: dead over the weekend. 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There was 362 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: a lot of news to talk about during the show. 363 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: But then, as occasionally goes on, right after we went 364 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: off the air doing our life for three hours of programming, 365 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: some other stuff went down. 366 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: And this one was notable. And there are visual aids 367 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: if you will, there are there's video of this. It's 368 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: the first time that I'm aware of that this has 369 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: happened in this in this way. I'm im I was 370 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: expecting there'd be an escalation against the cartels. I'll say 371 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: that I didn't know it would get to this level 372 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: this quickly. 373 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: And here's what we here's what we have. 374 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: We've got a boat that well here actually Trump announced this, 375 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: so let's let's hear from the President. Yeah, cup one play. 376 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: That we just over the last few minutes literally shout 377 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: out a boat, a drug carrying boat, A lot of 378 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: drugs in that boat, and you'll be seeing that and 379 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: you'll be reading about that. It just tappened moments ago. 380 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: And our great General, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 381 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: who has been so incredible, including what took place in Iran, 382 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: knocking out potential nuclear power for a long time to come. 383 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: I think within a month they would have had it. 384 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: We didn't do what we did, but he gave us 385 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: a little bit of a briefing and you'll see, and 386 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: there's more where that came from. We have a lot 387 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 4: of drugs pouring into our country, coming in for a 388 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: long time, and we just these came out of Venezuela 389 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 4: and coming out very heavily from Venezuela. A lot of 390 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: things are coming out of Venezuela. 391 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: So we took it out, Okay, Clay, So they put 392 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: the video out there. It's now circulating widely on the internet. 393 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: And you have essentially a speedboat that is that is 394 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: going along. There's you can tell there's a bunch of 395 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: individuals in this boat. Look, I think it's a go 396 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: fast boat and then it gets hit. 397 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: With a missile and it and and it is pardon me, 398 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: that was a different clip. 399 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: It got hit with a missile, and it is a 400 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: situation where there is now lethal force being used against 401 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: the cartels. 402 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: Look, I watched this video yesterday afternoon when it came out, 403 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: and there was a I give credit to New York Times, 404 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: although it's always a little bit suspect when you're writing 405 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 3: a behind the scenes piece on the fentanyl trade. Did 406 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: you see this piece? This was a few weeks ago. 407 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: They went and basically rode along with someone bringing fentanyl 408 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: from Mexico into the United States. The entire process, how 409 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: they were called ahead, who was bought off, which streets 410 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: they could go on, routes. I mean, it's incredibly organized, 411 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: and basically the guy that was doing the driving was 412 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: making the decision, Hey, this is life changing money for 413 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: my family. He was getting tens of thousands of dollars 414 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: and he decided that he was willing to take the 415 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 3: risk that he might get caught. 416 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: He did not. 417 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: He got in, got in through the border, or drove 418 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: in through the car. The whole article was about the 419 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 3: different ways that they store the drugs, where they put 420 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: them in cars, how they remake them. I mean, it 421 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: is a massive undertaking that they have put in place. 422 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 3: When I watched us blow up that boat, I had 423 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: two thoughts. One, every single narco terrorist in America is 424 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: going to see this footage, every single one of them, 425 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: and it is going to change the calculus in their 426 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: mind of if I get caught, I'm going to prison 427 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: for several years. Two, I might get blown up and 428 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: never know that I am even in danger of getting 429 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 3: blown up because of United States technology. 430 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: That was my first thought. My second thought was, boy, 431 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: we better get this right because nobody talked about it, 432 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: but we've talked about it on this program. 433 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: Joe Biden just blew up a dad, this whole family 434 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: in Afghanistan. After the attack on Abby Gate, the thirteen 435 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: Marines who were killed, they decided, hey, we're going to 436 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: get back. 437 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: And they found the wrong guy and he was driving 438 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: home with water in the trunk of his car, and 439 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: they blew up the whole house and killed. 440 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: The whole family. 441 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, well, they blew up the car, right, so, but 442 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: it also killed the family like he blew up when 443 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: he pulled into the garage or the house in Afghanistan. 444 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: The difference that you could argue with that, Obviously it 445 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: was a is a horrible mistake and a number of 446 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: people died as a result of it. But the difference 447 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that you had with that was you had the possibility 448 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: of imminent threat, meaning they believe that that was a 449 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: SVBIED suicide vehicle born improvised explosive device. They thought that's 450 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: now they were very wrong and they should have and 451 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Biden and you know, Pentagon still looking 452 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: at this now, the withdrawal. It was a mess. We 453 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: lost marines. It's there was clearly a lot that went 454 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: terribly wrong. But from a law of war perspective, it's 455 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: one thing to say I thought this had an explosive 456 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: in it and was going to kill our people, right, 457 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: That's that's one It's. 458 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: The risks assessment of that is if it happens is awful. 459 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: Under rules of engagement, that's an imminent immediate threat situation. 460 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 2: The mistake is what made it whore. 461 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: If that had been an SVB i D, we'd be saying, 462 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: great work, brilliant, that it would be brilliant. 463 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: Nobody would question. 464 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: That A boat full of drugs. Now, I understand people 465 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: are going to say a few things about this. They're 466 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: going to say, designated a narco terrorists for Trenda Aragua. Yes, 467 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: they're going to say that the cartels and these are 468 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: all fair and accurate points, to be clear, but I'm 469 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: just letting this out. They're going to say that cartels 470 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: are a clear and present danger like the movie, but 471 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: the Clartellis pose a clear and present danger to the 472 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: American people because of the I think it went down 473 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: under one hundred thousand recently, but it's roughly one hundred 474 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: thousand people you're dying from drug overdoses. And also to 475 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: add to this, it's not just the drug overdoses, it's 476 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: the drug addiction, which leads to criminality and shootings and violence. 477 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it is the mass poisoning of society. Yes, 478 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: and let me also add this. A lot of people who, 479 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: and this is awful, are dying of drug overdoses did 480 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: not even consent to take drugs that they thought were 481 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: potentially said that's right, they're poisoning. Right, they're being poisoned 482 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: because you're thinking, hey, and look, I want everybody's kids 483 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: to be careful on this. But you're thinking, hey, I'm 484 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: taking a party drug and it's lace with fentanyl and 485 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: the next thing you know, you're dead. You don't you're 486 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: not even agreeing to the risk associated. These are not 487 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: necessarily even drug addicts. So I do think the poisoning 488 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: element here doesn't get talked about it enough. 489 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: One of this has been going on for a while. 490 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: One of the most. 491 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: Stark moments in a conversation I was having the first 492 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: Trump administration with the then acting Attorney General was on 493 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: this issue, Clay at the OJ, and I spoke to 494 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: some of the just to get a sense of what's 495 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: going on. Some of the DOJ officials focusing in on this, 496 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: specifically on the fentanyl and the cartels. Then they said 497 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: that they were making they imprint the pills intentionally to 498 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: look like pharmaceutical pills because they know that the end 499 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: based customer is going to say, oh, I'm taking like 500 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: a benzo or some kind of a drug that can 501 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: produce a high. They don't realize they're taking fentanyl or 502 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: car fentanyl or heaven knows what in this pill, and 503 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: that kills people. Right. This is where the quote hot 504 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: batch issue comes up. That's what they call it okay, 505 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: but it's not an imminence, meaning this boat is not 506 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: about to kill a thousand people in the next few minutes. 507 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: This boat is capable of being arrested and are you 508 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: stopped and then the people in it being arrested. But 509 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: to your point, Trump administrations decided they're designated, they're terrorists, 510 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: they're killing Americans. Enough is enough. But this is war tactic, 511 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: this is not criminal justice tactic. 512 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: I would also point out this is law of the jungle. Yeah, 513 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: we off air. I said, this is shiving somebody in 514 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: a line at a prison. You are basically sending a 515 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: message that is very public by the choice that you're making. Also, 516 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: I think this is directly connected to Maduro in Venezuela. 517 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: I think they want Maduro to know you are potentially next, 518 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: and I think they are letting him know that using 519 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: Venezuela as a narco terror state is not going to 520 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: be permitted. And so ultimately I think that they chose 521 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: this location to blow up that boat because they want Maduro. 522 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: Remember again not talked about a ton. Venezuela seized billions 523 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: of dollars in American company assets. I think primarily Chevron. 524 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: If I'm if I'm remembering my reading on this correctly 525 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 3: and took it over for the state. And they have 526 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: and this is one of the biggest oil producing states 527 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 3: in the world. And Maduro is an illegitimate leader and 528 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: he's taken over huge assets of American companies. I think 529 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: we want Maduro out and I think we are slowly 530 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: screwing tightening the screws on Maduro. 531 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: So Maduro, and I always tell people this because I 532 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: think it really Maduro himself is considered not just the 533 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: head of the Venezuelan state. He's an authoritarian, he's a dictator, 534 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: but he's the head of a cartel. He's a He 535 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: himself the actual premier, the actual leader of Venezuela is 536 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: officially by the United States Trench Deepartment A designated narco 537 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: trafficker and running it. And now what you see is 538 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: that this is and this is why people talk about 539 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: Venezuela as a failed state and so sad because it 540 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: got to this state. Don't ever forget this. It got 541 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: to this position because of socialism, because of redistribution of wealth, 542 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: because of envy, because of all these things that unfortunately, 543 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: this virus that continues to make its way yes through 544 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: Latin America, but also into this country at different times 545 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: where if only you know, the rich get rinsed more, 546 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: everything will be better for everybody else but Clay. This 547 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: is how the Venezuelan elites, even with all the problems 548 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: they have, and I mean the true elites, the people 549 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: running the country, are funding their lifestyles and also staying 550 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: in power because they are generating huge amounts of cash 551 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: through selling drugs to America. 552 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: They're killing people. 553 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: This is it's very Tom Clancy circa nineteen you know, 554 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. I mean, this is a moment where you're 555 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: seeing the United States government is taking the threat of 556 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: the cartels as more of a nation state level nons 557 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: or sorry, a nation state level terror sponsor threat. And 558 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: that is a whole other thing. And we haven't even 559 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: talked about what this could mean for the cartels in Mexico. 560 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: We're focused right now on Venezuela. I totally and I'm 561 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: curious to hear what people think. 562 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 4: Now. 563 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: Again, as long as you are one hundred percent certain, 564 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: and I trust Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and I 565 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: trust Pete hag Seth. What you don't want to have 566 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: happen here is some families out on a jet boat 567 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: and the US just reiins down holy hell on them. 568 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: And this is where I think the media deserves fair criticism. 569 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: You've talked about this before, Buck Obama just took out 570 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: an American citizen. Uh, and almost nobody even talks about 571 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: a sixteen year old with a drone, and then they show, oh, 572 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: it's classified, nobody can talk about it. 573 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: He blew up a sixteen year old. It was Alaki's son. 574 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know in DC, sixteen year old murderers 575 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: can't go to prison for more than five years. 576 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: But in this context under Obama, he just blew them up. 577 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: This is where I think a lot of you guys 578 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: and gals are gonna learn. Everybody out there that's like, oh, 579 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm afraid of the FBI knocking on my door. I 580 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: think over the next generation, it's not going to be 581 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: somebody driving by your house and spraying guns in your 582 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: front window. People are going to start to use drones 583 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: for targeted criminal hits. And if you look, I mean look, 584 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: military technology eventually filters its way down to the general public. 585 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: Often in some context. Look at the way Israel took 586 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: out all these Iranian scientists. I mean, it's really very 587 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: remarkable technologically. You'll see the whole building in Tehran still standing, 588 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: and they went in the side of a wall and 589 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: executed as scientist and the rest of the building was fine. 590 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: You don't think and most people don't. Hey, one day 591 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 3: somebody's just gonna set a drone off and try to 592 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: kill me. I'm telling you, in the next generation, this 593 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: is gonna be something that we really have to have 594 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: real conversations about. 595 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: You know, the cartels are innovators in this. Yes, just 596 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: to be clear, they've been doing this for a while. 597 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: The Cartels have been using very basic commercial drones to 598 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: drop grenades, to drop it, and they've been doing it 599 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: for a decade. So this is going back quite some time. 600 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think eventually, Clay, You're right, you will 601 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: see drive by at some point will turn into drone by. 602 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: That will happen. 603 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: I look out, look, I'm just saying, the technology here 604 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: is such that you're not even gonna have people committing 605 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: violent acts against you physically present. 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