Speaker 1: Did you see you know that Rest in Peace Boso
Speaker 1: the James Worthy meme?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you know what that clip is from?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Isn't it from they beat the Celtics and he lit
Speaker 2: up a cigar?
Speaker 3: The common misconception?
Speaker 1: That's what Javari said. You know how sad this one is.
Speaker 1: It's from February fourth, twenty eighteen where twenty one and
Speaker 1: thirty one Lakers beat the Oklahoma City Thunder one O
Speaker 1: eight one oh four.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. Yeah, so yeah, we're smoking on that
Speaker 3: loud pack because.
Speaker 2: Man, but I totally thought that there was when you
Speaker 2: said it was Satdur, I thought it was going to
Speaker 2: be like a red hourback died and he was doing
Speaker 2: a tribute to him on air crip and people are like, oh, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's put rest in Peace Boso. Yeah, you know that
Speaker 2: is probably the energy James would bring to that tribute.
Speaker 3: But you know, but it's even funnier because they're like,
Speaker 3: you're saying, recipe because we beat the thirty and twenty
Speaker 3: fourth Thunder at the time.
Speaker 2: They were only thirty twenty four. Then yeah, what a time?
Speaker 2: But time you guys want me to record locally? Right?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Please Okay, should I just start that now or okay
Speaker 2: if you wire?
Speaker 1: I think I think we can prolong the show. If
Speaker 1: we don't turn this show in, we don't wait Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like yeah, no.
Speaker 2: Guys, we're still recording it, just problem as we go.
Speaker 2: Don't even trying it. We're trying to get it done.
Speaker 1: Steve, I know you're gonna have to render my Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah one more time, guys. Yeah we still we got
Speaker 1: edits and stuff on this. Is that really like Philibus
Speaker 1: Spring or like yeahs our yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly ship Alex Caruso.
Speaker 1: He was a minus three on the night.
Speaker 3: M James is like, the guy's a bum. Guy's a
Speaker 3: boom rest of piece, bozone. I'm out of here, resting
Speaker 3: peace bow So Tucker better tucking into some Tim Wharton's.
Speaker 3: That's been my time. That's been my time. We're honor.
Speaker 1: This isn't a comedy club, sir, you're the defendant. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: all right, that's been my time.
Speaker 3: All right, that's been my time. You're honor. Tipperators on
Speaker 3: the well.
Speaker 4: Well well well, well well.
Speaker 3: Well and finally, well well well, episode one seventy one.
Speaker 3: If I met a lot of people who make it
Speaker 3: to one seventy one. No, no, A lot of people
Speaker 3: wouldn't think we would make it to two. Do you
Speaker 3: know how Parson? You know how old Elvis was when
Speaker 3: he died. Don't look it up. Don't look it up.
Speaker 2: Fifty I was.
Speaker 3: Gonna say, fifty five.
Speaker 2: Who's forty two?
Speaker 3: He looked bad.
Speaker 4: I don't know fourth too, it's so ye. But look
Speaker 4: at us, look at early. Some of us are over
Speaker 4: that age. And yet we made it to one hundreds
Speaker 4: every one episodes and lot's right.
Speaker 1: Nobody said we could do it.
Speaker 3: Nobody said so. But at the end of the season,
Speaker 3: we do have a champion. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Speaker 4: They took care of business in Game seven, although.
Speaker 3: It was a kind of a downer Game seven. I
Speaker 3: must say sad game seven. Normally I don't expect my
Speaker 3: Game seven is to be sad.
Speaker 2: It was no games.
Speaker 1: It was definitely I think, overshadowed by the Halberd injury.
Speaker 1: But also we've got Katie trade news if that interests you,
Speaker 1: and maybe talking about the future of the Lakers.
Speaker 3: I don't know who knows her this.
Speaker 1: Is going because baby, this is the last episode.
Speaker 3: Of I'm Miles Great and I'm Jack O'Brien and this.
Speaker 1: Is Miles and Jack got bad Boostingtory get it.
Speaker 5: Look at the East Okay, be driving Spinny.
Speaker 3: Fatter numbers, p G.
Speaker 6: That's good show something short, champion over the double team time.
Speaker 2: What you got guys?
Speaker 3: Wow, we got it, We got it and luckily did it.
Speaker 1: And you know who we got on the guest chair,
Speaker 1: The associate director of Pro Basketball for ASBI Nation, Harrison Bacon.
Speaker 3: Finishing things off on Boost. He's like Kobe dropping sixty,
Speaker 3: taking another fingers journey taking a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people have been calling me washed all year,
Speaker 2: but I think I got one laugh good performance than me.
Speaker 1: You got now we believe you. We didn't call you
Speaker 1: in for nothing, Harrison. I called you in to tell
Speaker 1: me that the Lakers will win next season. That's actually
Speaker 1: what I repeatedly called the final for himself on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then it'll be Lakers six or right in
Speaker 3: the finals next season. Yeah, yeah, that's what we said.
Speaker 3: I mean, So this is this is why so the
Speaker 3: people a lot of people are asking why is the
Speaker 3: show ending? Miles and I did make a promise to
Speaker 3: each other. Yep, if by the third season of the show,
Speaker 3: it's not the Lakers and the seventy six ers in
Speaker 3: the finals, then we would end it yeah and get
Speaker 3: married yeah instead, And so thanks didn't happen, I don't think.
Speaker 3: But Harrison will be the efficient, so we do. We
Speaker 3: do appreciate that.
Speaker 1: But I guess, yeah, the finals, just touching up on
Speaker 1: that game seven.
Speaker 3: Game seven, baby, yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, I'm sure no one's tuning
Speaker 1: into this episode.
Speaker 3: So here what happened seven and six? What if somebody
Speaker 3: just the only way they found out about NBA basketball
Speaker 3: was listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1: Are something, no, legit, there are probably one person at least,
Speaker 1: there's all other one or something yeah no, and other
Speaker 1: listeners from other shows we do are like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like the basketball one too, Like I get to learn
Speaker 1: stuff about it. Brian the editor says, you're editor, perhaps,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Brian didn't know the NBA was the thing. He was like,
Speaker 3: so this show is being this show's ended because the
Speaker 3: NBA stopped having a league, right, And we're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not
Speaker 1: how that works at all, my dear sweet child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basketball shutting down everyone.
Speaker 3: We did it it was a good one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do like this clip the super producer Jabbari and
Speaker 3: once again we shouted him out last week. But Super
Speaker 3: the man, the show run man who makes it good, uh,
Speaker 3: who makes it coherent? Coherent? Yes, he found a great
Speaker 3: clip of Sam Presty that I wanted to play real quick.
Speaker 3: If we do, we are we able to play it?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: We got this clip real quick, We got that clipt
Speaker 1: this clip here we go.
Speaker 3: Here is by the way, we were able to like
Speaker 3: play NBA clips this whole time, and we just like didn't,
Speaker 3: as I said, because we couldn't, because we couldn't shut
Speaker 3: ourselves up. So well, you know, I remember when when
Speaker 3: we were trying, we're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, We're like, this is not outbad so sick?
Speaker 3: Oh John, No, yeah no.
Speaker 1: And that's that's That's kind of how the running commentary was.
Speaker 1: But here's Sam Presty in twenty twenty one, just given
Speaker 1: a long view into the future.
Speaker 5: As I said earlier, we can't be reactionary or emotional
Speaker 5: about it. We just have to keep chipping away every
Speaker 5: single day, knowing that over time will achieve our goals.
Speaker 5: If we have the ployse the patients and the willingness
Speaker 5: to adjust to the setbacks that we know will inevitably encounter.
Speaker 5: As they say, shortcuts cut long, run short, and we're
Speaker 5: going to do everything in our power not to allow
Speaker 5: that to happen. And when we do get back to
Speaker 5: the postseason, we want it to be an arrival and
Speaker 5: not an appearance and arrival meaning that we can return,
Speaker 5: we can be there, we can take some you know,
Speaker 5: some chance or bad fortune and not have it sink
Speaker 5: us in completely.
Speaker 3: We've seen the benefit of that, and you.
Speaker 5: Know, during our our earlier years, we don't want a
Speaker 5: position where we get there but we have no way
Speaker 5: to get back. And that's the focus and the precision
Speaker 5: with which we're working. We understand the ecosystem of the NBA,
Speaker 5: I think very very well. We understand how that works.
Speaker 5: We understand what we have to work with, and I
Speaker 5: feel extremely confident and optimistic about the future that we
Speaker 5: have here. We just have to continue to stick with it.
Speaker 3: Okay. So that's him. So, by the way, the architect
Speaker 3: of the Oklahoma City Thunder who just won the title,
Speaker 3: speaking in uh at the end of the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one season, this is my impression of me
Speaker 3: after he said that, okay, Boso whatever.
Speaker 2: Fifty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so a little contact. They were twenty two
Speaker 3: and fifty one. Yep, that's every year.
Speaker 2: That was year that Shae missed like the whole second
Speaker 2: half of the season or some big chunk of it, right,
Speaker 2: and the year that they, you know, sort of took
Speaker 2: in al Horford and then shut him down because he
Speaker 2: was playing too well before flipping him to the Celtics.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I found an article where they were summarizing
Speaker 3: that that's like his final media appearance of the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one season. And there's like this article in
Speaker 3: USA Today where they're like, so he like doesn't want
Speaker 3: like there's so many great players on the market and
Speaker 3: like they're not even gonna do anything. Quote with Bradley Beal,
Speaker 3: Kemba Walker, Christaph's Porzingis and even Damian Lillard floating in
Speaker 3: the rumor mill the Oklahoma City Thunder have started to pop
Speaker 3: up around social media and think pieces, but it's highly
Speaker 3: unlikely the Thunder trade for one of these players and
Speaker 3: then summarizing like he's you know, he spoke to the
Speaker 3: mediaan was like we're good over here, and yeah, he
Speaker 3: talks to.
Speaker 2: The media for like like three hours at the end
Speaker 2: of every season. He'll just take like every single possible
Speaker 2: question they have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I would have been I would have been
Speaker 3: one of the people being like really, here's from later
Speaker 3: in that article about bial Bal has averaged more than
Speaker 3: thirty points per game for two seasons in a row.
Speaker 3: He did this while shooting forty eight point five percent
Speaker 3: this season despite defenders draped around him, which was like,
Speaker 3: the thing about bial is like, you gotta get Bal
Speaker 3: because his team is so bad and yet he's scoring
Speaker 3: all these points. That must mean that it is extra hard.
Speaker 3: But yeah, stuck to his vision truly, just I don't know,
Speaker 3: and everybody in the organization was willing to have the
Speaker 3: patience Like it's it's tough, I understand it. It's easy
Speaker 3: to be like everybody should have patience and just like
Speaker 3: let the vision play out. The problem with that is like,
Speaker 3: what if the person you're having patience with is an idiot,
Speaker 3: you know, then you've wasted five years. So that's the
Speaker 3: problem with patience. But they got up to the bulls,
Speaker 3: you know, they stuck with it.
Speaker 2: You know, they've they've been really patient, and it seems
Speaker 2: like it's with the wrong.
Speaker 3: Guy patient, you know, going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, KD.
Speaker 3: I feel like the KD Russ hardened Core made it
Speaker 3: easy on them because like they were like, all right,
Speaker 3: this guy might know what he's talking about, so we'll
Speaker 3: let him not go after Damian Lillard, Kemba Walker, Bradley
Speaker 3: Beale and Porzingis.
Speaker 2: I mean it's sild that that is, like that's like
Speaker 2: the Grim Reaper knocking at the door meme of names.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like every literally any of those guys
Speaker 2: would have destroyed this title run. I think because of
Speaker 2: how much they're making and like how many you know,
Speaker 2: how much flexibility. The Thunder wouldn't have had to go
Speaker 2: get guys like Alex caruso Isa Heart and seen all
Speaker 2: that stuff. Like it just would have made them a
Speaker 2: totally different team with any of those guys and probably
Speaker 2: torpedoed this run before it began.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just so impressed, you know, like because in
Speaker 1: the era of impatient front offices, impatient owners, impatient fans
Speaker 1: that just this truly like this is the philosophy we're
Speaker 1: sticking to and see it pay off just like in
Speaker 1: this spectacular way.
Speaker 2: Where does this like even rank.
Speaker 1: With other executives who are like, here's my thing. We're
Speaker 1: gonna try this, and I think it's gonna work, and
Speaker 1: I think this is actually gonna bring sustainable you know,
Speaker 1: performances to this club, this franchise.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's pretty similar to like Brad Stevens,
Speaker 3: like in that, you know, having a singular vision that
Speaker 3: they stuck with for for a period of time in
Speaker 3: Boston and like them winning the title last year, but
Speaker 3: even they are not like it feels like he's the
Speaker 3: only person who has them, Like who was talking about aprons,
Speaker 3: because like he, they just seem so well set up
Speaker 3: and the rest of the league is like now being like,
Speaker 3: oh no, oh, we're gonna have to trade some of
Speaker 3: our guys who like are good all right, and they
Speaker 3: just seem like they've got it, like just a nesting
Speaker 3: doll of like you know, people coming of age at
Speaker 3: the right time in contracts like feeding into one another.
Speaker 2: It sort of reminds me of where Presty came from
Speaker 2: the Spurs. It's you know, when they had their dynasty
Speaker 2: going on and they were just like they were drafting
Speaker 2: guys and just bring them in and developing them and
Speaker 2: sort of cost controlling them and again different CBA to
Speaker 2: you know, you could pay to keep a man Whu
Speaker 2: and you know Tony Parker and a Tim Duncan and
Speaker 2: you know, uh and a Kawai and all these guys.
Speaker 2: But it does it's reminiscent of that of like, hey,
Speaker 2: we're not going to get necessarily get stars to come
Speaker 2: here in free agency or demand a trade to end
Speaker 2: up here, and so we just need to take all
Speaker 2: the bets on young talent that we can and figure
Speaker 2: out who works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it sounds like I was just like having
Speaker 3: really dedicating the like the culture of the players too,
Speaker 3: because this isn't like a team with a like stars
Speaker 3: in that sense, like with egos like that. And I
Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, it's yeah, it's hard to have that
Speaker 3: kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Especially they all talk like Coach Carter, like Friday Night
Speaker 2: Lights character, just like it's an entire team of just
Speaker 2: like coach speak. It's like they all talk exactly like
Speaker 2: Presty from the coach down to the players and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. So you know, really it's really culture of
Speaker 2: saying absolutely nothing interesting ever, and so maybe that's the lesson.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of familiar names on that roster from
Speaker 3: that year when he's given that speech. But Shay Gilles, Alexander, Louguentz, Dort, Lugats,
Speaker 3: lou Dort and the coach were all there. And you know,
Speaker 3: despite the fact that their offensive raiding was thirtieth of thirty,
Speaker 3: their overall rating was like thirtieth of thirty, defensive rating
Speaker 3: was twenty fourth, net rating thirtieth of thirty in the league,
Speaker 3: like the worst in the league.
Speaker 2: They were real bad that year. There were a lot
Speaker 2: of guys playing that are I'm guessing or not in
Speaker 2: the league anymore?
Speaker 3: Four years ago, five years ago, like four years ago,
Speaker 3: they were the worst in the league. They didn't land Jannis,
Speaker 3: They didn't like just suddenly pull one of the great players.
Speaker 3: They had the best player that currently was on their
Speaker 3: team when they won the title a few days ago.
Speaker 3: He was on their team that year. He was hurt,
Speaker 3: but like he was, he was there and nobody was
Speaker 3: saying anything except like, man, he's actually like developing into
Speaker 3: a nice little player. But nobody was like, this is
Speaker 3: the core that right, and.
Speaker 2: Maybe he could make an All Star team one day,
Speaker 2: you know, in the right year.
Speaker 3: SG and lou Dort were not Nobody was like, that's
Speaker 3: the core. That there's your core. The core is in place,
Speaker 3: and yeah, you know, it's pretty impressive what they just
Speaker 3: pulled off. So shout out to the Thunder Shout out
Speaker 3: to the Thunder fans, Shout out to Sonic fans going back,
Speaker 3: anybody who's stuck with them.
Speaker 2: A crossover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot of angry SONI shout Sonic fans
Speaker 3: who are because mainly that's what I identify with is
Speaker 3: a spite as an NBA fan.
Speaker 2: Not only did your team move, but they moved with
Speaker 2: like maybe the best NBA GM ever running the team
Speaker 2: and like apparently patient owners and like all that, like
Speaker 2: everything that you would want from your team, and they're
Speaker 2: just like, you know, we're just gonna take this and
Speaker 2: move it to Oklahoma City. But you can watch from afar.
Speaker 2: It's fine, you know. That's I I can't even imagine
Speaker 2: how I would feel as a Sonics fan today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, should we should we move to the other side
Speaker 3: of the ball because I can't remember a runner up
Speaker 3: that is as memorable as this Pacers team? Yeah for real?
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, no one remembers the second place, but I
Speaker 3: don't know. Yes, I feel like, yeah, let's say, we'll
Speaker 3: be right, and we're back. We're back. I do feel
Speaker 3: like more than football, I do remember the NBA runners up.
Speaker 3: Is that just because I like basketball better than football?
Speaker 2: I think so, But probably all the like.
Speaker 3: I remember all the teams that Jordan beat to win
Speaker 3: the title. You know, those were all like fairly iconic
Speaker 3: in my guys, in your.
Speaker 2: Guys, yeah, the bad guys in the documentary, you know,
Speaker 2: these are the guys that are trying to kill Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan midair and then the yeah, and then they cut
Speaker 2: back and he's like, you know, I just popped my
Speaker 2: leg back into place. I ate some food, poison pizza,
Speaker 2: and just got back back out there.
Speaker 3: You know, the Pacers were so memorable, Like I can't
Speaker 3: remember a team having a run like this that felt
Speaker 3: this out of nowhere, like heading into the playoffs. I
Speaker 3: don't like, they just like had a magic about them
Speaker 3: that like started coming out in the playoffs. I know
Speaker 3: they were playing well. I don't think anybody saw this,
Speaker 3: Like where does this rank on like second place like
Speaker 3: teams that lost in the finals for you in terms
Speaker 3: of like how memorable they are?
Speaker 2: Harrison, you know, honestly, the team that comes to mind
Speaker 2: as a memorable second place finisher is actually the thunder
Speaker 2: from when they lost to the Heat, because it was like, hey,
Speaker 2: look at these young guys. It's clear that the you know,
Speaker 2: they have something cooking here. They're going to be back
Speaker 2: a bunch more times, right, And then they never were,
Speaker 2: and but it that was a fairly memorable team. They
Speaker 2: upset the Spurs. You know, they had again it was
Speaker 2: like young KD, Young Russ. It's like the teams don't
Speaker 2: win when they're this young, and they ended up not winning,
Speaker 2: but they were really good. And I do remember that
Speaker 2: team from that year quite a bit. I'm trying to.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe either the Spurs or the
Speaker 2: Heat from their finals battles, you know, those were both
Speaker 2: sort of like, you know, like the year the Spurs
Speaker 2: came up short in Game seven. They were obviously a
Speaker 2: memorable runner up, but.
Speaker 3: It's always like iconic teams that like you had a
Speaker 3: sense we're going to be there coming into the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So this was like such a weird like almost like
Speaker 3: NC double a tournament esque like Cinderella run that just
Speaker 3: like came up.
Speaker 1: It felt like they were actually a great comp They
Speaker 1: were primed for a DVD basically, you know, really season,
Speaker 1: They're like when.
Speaker 3: TJ McConnell scored like five times in a row, it's like,
Speaker 3: what is it?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: What is I'm gonna love watching this scene in the
Speaker 1: documentary that's in never able about this run.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just another achilles injury. Miles. As you pointed
Speaker 3: out to an All Star who wears the number zero
Speaker 3: the third one of these playoffs.
Speaker 1: I was just being like, what's with the number zero
Speaker 1: this year? I mean, I Kyrie doesn't wear zero. But
Speaker 1: I think maybe, look in my mind, maybe it's the
Speaker 1: one weird note thing I noticed and as it happened,
Speaker 1: But maybe it's the low top sneakers.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know. This is so weird.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it was where do you land with the
Speaker 3: Achilles of it all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that it's you know this has
Speaker 2: been said before, but it's that the sport is so
Speaker 2: different than it ever was in you know, the years
Speaker 2: when sort of like we were talking about like the
Speaker 2: Jordan year stuff like that, there wasn't this amount of
Speaker 2: running around on defense, stop start, you know, rotations and
Speaker 2: all of that stuff. And I do wonder if it's
Speaker 2: just taking a toll on guy's bodies. And I also
Speaker 2: remember reading like an ESPN story from Baxter Holmes a
Speaker 2: number of years ago where it was like where it
Speaker 2: was talking about how youth sports specialization is actually making
Speaker 2: guys knees worse. This is like a documented thing because
Speaker 2: kids aren't playing multiple sports and like working out multiple
Speaker 2: different muscles anymore. It's like, you know, you're just using
Speaker 2: those run and jump muscles playing basketball and you know
Speaker 2: you're wearing out. There's more guys coming into the league
Speaker 2: with knee issues, and I think it's like a combination
Speaker 2: of all of that stuff. Is bodies this big weren't
Speaker 2: meant to be discordinated and moving around and stopping and
Speaker 2: starting all the time. And you know, it's just players
Speaker 2: are bigger and more skilled than they've ever been, and
Speaker 2: it's a more frenetic game than it's ever been. And
Speaker 2: I do think that there is probably something to that.
Speaker 1: Well, especially with the way these teams played like off
Speaker 1: like the Pacers offense and the Thunder defense.
Speaker 2: If someone from like thirty years will be like, what
Speaker 2: are they doing out there? Yeah, you just bring in
Speaker 2: like one of the bad Boys Pistons. He's like a
Speaker 2: legal defense.
Speaker 3: YEA, what do you.
Speaker 1: Oh so we can oh so the screen we can move? Now?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, I got something for that, although I
Speaker 2: would have led to see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to your point, like Michael Jordan stunk at basketball
Speaker 3: when he was a sophomore in high school, as we
Speaker 3: all know, got cut and only liked baseball. As the
Speaker 3: story goes, that's not true. He just like didn't make
Speaker 3: his varsity team. I think his freshman year or sophomore year.
Speaker 3: He was still good. But yeah, it does seem like
Speaker 3: specialization is more a thing everybody's like, Okay, now I'm
Speaker 3: going to going from basketball practice to my one on
Speaker 3: one basketball training session with my basketball coach. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a don't I don't know exactly what it is. It
Speaker 3: definitely just seems like it's a harder on the body,
Speaker 3: and we're probably gonna see a world where like people
Speaker 3: get shut down in the finals regardless of what, you know,
Speaker 3: how close it is, because they have a strained calf.
Speaker 3: Like the strained calf feels like it's got to be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: a red line. Now.
Speaker 1: I mean I remember last week Sarah Todd was on
Speaker 1: and we're talking about like it sounds like he's gonna
Speaker 1: play with that calf.
Speaker 3: Injury, and everyone was like, of course he's gonna play
Speaker 3: with that, is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And if we were joking like that.
Speaker 1: Thing is going to be fall off the bone tender
Speaker 1: by the time he's done playing that and it went
Speaker 1: a little bit too literally, But that just completely changed
Speaker 1: how I like, just for me, it was such a
Speaker 1: blow to the enjoyment of that game, and it felt
Speaker 1: like that's kind of how it even felt in the
Speaker 1: arena too, Like it felt very subdued, like it was
Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, we won.
Speaker 3: That was kind of.
Speaker 1: A grim way to end it all though that felt
Speaker 1: a little bit rough. I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: the same for everyone else, but at a certain point,
Speaker 1: like I had to actively just like kind of walk
Speaker 1: away for like long stretches because like, oh, this is tough.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: It almost looked like the Thunder players were going through
Speaker 2: it too, of like yeah, thing of like did we
Speaker 2: just watch this guy's entire career change and then now
Speaker 2: it's you know, we got to go play do or
Speaker 2: die basketball. It just seemed like, again, it takes nothing
Speaker 2: away from Thunder. They were obviously totally deserving and legitimate Champiel.
Speaker 2: It was just a really weird vibe for a game
Speaker 2: seven of you had all these guys just clearly processing
Speaker 2: it in the moment, and even like you said in
Speaker 2: the arena, like, I think the Thunder players probably feel
Speaker 2: bad to some degree. You know, they're professional athletes. These
Speaker 2: guys are all human. Like, nobody wants to see that.
Speaker 1: And they probably also want to win that like, and
Speaker 1: just as competitors like I want to beat the best
Speaker 1: version of my opponent. You know, I don't ever want
Speaker 1: to feel like we only won because this happened, although
Speaker 1: we were.
Speaker 2: Playing very well.
Speaker 1: But even like even the locker room felt very even
Speaker 1: with those michelobe.
Speaker 3: Joints michel ultrue joints.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our man, Chet, even did you hear that?
Speaker 2: No, I saw the one of Alex Cruzo teaching them
Speaker 2: how to open champagne. Yeah remember where you learned that, Alex? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, this is right after they were talking about to
Speaker 1: Chet about like the you know, champagne showers of locker room.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 1: And then he hits us with a brand new pronunciation
Speaker 1: for michelob ultra.
Speaker 3: But for now, I got my michelob ultra joints, My Michel.
Speaker 2: Chet Chet is my favorite, like arks on rec side character.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just truly he has written like a
Speaker 3: we were trying to figure out what it wasn't like
Speaker 3: extras maybe like he's like Ricky Gervais, the Ricky Gervais Show,
Speaker 3: you know, like just a heightened version of like what
Speaker 3: a comedy writer would think was funny if he had
Speaker 3: that personality. And uh, yeah, whoever's writing him, they're nailing
Speaker 3: it because it's very funny.
Speaker 1: You could see him in parks and rec like at
Speaker 1: those city council meetings.
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. He's at the
Speaker 2: city council meeting like complaining about like fluoride in the water.
Speaker 1: No, no, he's complaining about the varietals at the library.
Speaker 3: There's not varieties of picture book. Yeah. We were obsessed
Speaker 3: with his clip Harrison where he takes you through his
Speaker 3: favorite books and he's, uh, he can't live without.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, these are a type of book with
Speaker 3: pictures that I like to call coffee table books. And
Speaker 3: then and then is like, shows you one that's about jewelry,
Speaker 3: and he's like, but I've got all sorts of varieties
Speaker 3: of these and then shows you another just like coffee
Speaker 3: table book, the books or varieties. I've got different varieties
Speaker 3: of books. Yeah, baby, Yeah. His car he needs to
Speaker 3: be wearing, uh, snowboarding goggles on. Like I feel like
Speaker 3: that's forever still yet to come for him and needs
Speaker 3: to happen. That's the Definitely, he's like he feels like
Speaker 3: he'd be John Ralphiel's bodyguard or something.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get photos of him like celebrating in like
Speaker 2: overseas somewhere. He's like on his like you know, like
Speaker 2: post championship European vacation and he's going to be surfing
Speaker 2: on like two surfboards that they had to weld together
Speaker 2: or something. You know, it's just.
Speaker 1: Duct tape them together. Man, coming down the way. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: whoa easy, baby, easy.
Speaker 3: I will say, shout out to him though he gave
Speaker 3: He gave me the idea for my best bet, which
Speaker 3: was betting on Oklahoma City last year in the off season.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately a year too early. But man, just seeing him
Speaker 3: in Summer League, I was like, he looks good. Maybe
Speaker 3: they'll be good this year and uh, and they were
Speaker 3: just not quite good enough.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Harrison?
Speaker 1: This like this sort of finals run kind of says
Speaker 1: for a lot of people who were like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't see the Pacers. It's gonna be the It's gonna
Speaker 1: be thunder and four, five, maybe five probably at most.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're like because I was talking to
Speaker 1: one of my friends who was basically disrespecting the Pacers
Speaker 1: the whole time, despite like performance after performance, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't until game seven.
Speaker 2: That he was like, all right, maybe like fine, I
Speaker 2: was like, really, it.
Speaker 1: Took you that long? It just feels I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like this, where where do where? How should
Speaker 1: people be really be looking at this team? Because I
Speaker 1: feel like some people might just go back to I
Speaker 1: don't know, like without with knowing how halliburton injuries, Halliburton's
Speaker 1: injury is gonna pan out and just all of it,
Speaker 1: you know, surrounding this the end of the season, does
Speaker 1: this seem like, you know, are they gonna be right
Speaker 1: back in it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean what sucks with the injuries. It's a
Speaker 2: year long one and he literally had it in the
Speaker 2: last possible basketball game that you could play, and so
Speaker 2: he's like all of next year is probably wiped out
Speaker 2: for them, you know, like bar again, they are a
Speaker 2: team out of a sports movie, and so they could
Speaker 2: prove us wrong. And it's like, oh, TJ McConnell's an
Speaker 2: All Star next year.
Speaker 1: TJ McConnell's sister is now on the team, and you're like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: I love this, dude, that's the sports movie plotline.
Speaker 2: It's like, Hey, I got to invite my sister to
Speaker 2: come play because we had an injury. You know, my
Speaker 2: dad's a coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a weird old by law that says if
Speaker 3: I have the same last name as the person, they're
Speaker 3: allowed to suit up.
Speaker 2: Or than saying my sister can't play basketball. He's like,
Speaker 2: they're like, no, airbud rules don't work in real life. Wow,
Speaker 2: you know we actually do have a rule against that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are there are courts where people would adjudicate
Speaker 1: this decision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she has the same initials TJ McConnell, I broke
Speaker 3: my ankle, but she can come in and play for.
Speaker 1: It on paper the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: Does the NBA not do trial by combat?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So I think they're probably done for next year, which
Speaker 2: does suck. But I think that I've never felt more
Speaker 2: like one of the pundits that they show in the
Speaker 2: montage in a sports movie when like after games that
Speaker 2: the Pacers played, where I'm like, you know, I was
Speaker 2: down at my parents' house, you know, I'm I'm associate
Speaker 2: director of Pro Basketball. They're asking me for my opinion
Speaker 2: on the finals. I'm like, oh, I got it. Sound smart.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, PACER's cute. Sorry, I just like,
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they can get a game.
Speaker 2: This Thunder team, this Thunder defense is so good, and
Speaker 2: then they win Game one and I just look like
Speaker 2: an idiot. And you know, it's like I can see
Speaker 2: the clips of you know, all the first take you know,
Speaker 2: talking heads, the you know, you're the people on Fox Sports,
Speaker 2: the whatever, you know, it's it's the montage of like
Speaker 2: this team has no chance. And then TJ McConnell is
Speaker 2: like showing a video of it in the locker room
Speaker 2: to all of his guys and he's like, Thomas Bran,
Speaker 2: are you gonna let them talk about you like that?
Speaker 2: And he's like, no, I'm not. I'm gonna score nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see. Your parents were in the comments
Speaker 3: of our episode talking a lot of trash about your team.
Speaker 2: I mean deservedly. So yeah, you know, they got three
Speaker 2: other kids, so they'll be fine. But it's just, you know,
Speaker 2: I feel bad for embarrassing them on a national stage
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 3: That's right, all right? Should we move beyond the finals matchup? Sure?
Speaker 3: Look to the future. How long do we have with this? Like, yes,
Speaker 3: the thunderlook set for the future. The West also looks
Speaker 3: very competitive and there's a lot of intriguing people who
Speaker 3: might jump up, such as Victor Webbing Yama. How long
Speaker 3: do we think until the Spurs are a contender? Because
Speaker 3: I think some people were like, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe this year, and that didn't end up being the
Speaker 3: case because of an injury, but also prior to the
Speaker 3: injury also didn't seem to be the case. What do
Speaker 3: we think is it this year?
Speaker 2: They just don't seem to be in a rush. I
Speaker 2: think it's two more. I think it's another year after
Speaker 2: this before they start to enter that conversation. I think
Speaker 2: Wenby will have to keep developing obvious, although he's obviously
Speaker 2: incredible already, but they're probably gonna lose something with Chris
Speaker 2: Paul going out. I mean, I know they have to
Speaker 2: Aaron Fox now, but it doesn't seem like they're rushing
Speaker 2: to make an all and move this summer, Like they
Speaker 2: didn't seem to get seriously involved in the KD sweepstakes.
Speaker 2: Maybe they would have if Yannis was actually available, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like he's going to be and so
Speaker 2: maybe that is what would have actually led to them
Speaker 2: making an all in swing. But for right now, it
Speaker 2: seems like they're sort of happy to patiently slow play it,
Speaker 2: you know, draft Harper second and sort of go like
Speaker 2: into next year. Is hey, we're going to continue to
Speaker 2: figure out like which of these young guys are actually
Speaker 2: good and try and you know, the Thunder honestly just
Speaker 2: made a case for them to be patient and say,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, let's figure out, you know, sort of
Speaker 2: if any of these drafts, how good these draft picks are,
Speaker 2: and then where we actually need veteran help.
Speaker 3: Right man, It's just everything went right for the Thunder,
Speaker 3: like all those players developed like the best case scenario.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't it'll be it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 3: And like you said, I mean, maybe the Spurs were
Speaker 3: like the people who gave Presty the playbook, since that's
Speaker 3: where he hails from. But I don't know. I would
Speaker 3: have liked to see them get Durant KD to the Rockets.
Speaker 3: What do we think? I feel like the Rockets won
Speaker 3: that trade. I think they're gonna be pretty interesting. It's
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on KD to be like a
Speaker 3: bucket down the stretch, but that is like the thing
Speaker 3: that he's maybe the best of all time at Do
Speaker 3: we think the Rockets are a contender right away?
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, they were already so good
Speaker 2: on defense last year that this was you know, it's
Speaker 2: rare that you see a team plug their only hole
Speaker 2: in one trade and just like immediately address all the
Speaker 2: concerns about that. And it's just like that was there.
Speaker 2: One thing that they could not do last year was
Speaker 2: you know, they didn't have a go to guy down
Speaker 2: the stretch of games. They could stay in games, but
Speaker 2: teams continually out executed them down the stretch because offense
Speaker 2: generally beats defense in those moments, and because of how
Speaker 2: good offenses in the NBA are and how tough it
Speaker 2: can be to play defense, And so I think KD
Speaker 2: just sort of, you know, solves that problem. You know,
Speaker 2: you're you're not gonna be able to guard him with
Speaker 2: the game on the line, and so as long as
Speaker 2: he can sort of contribute enough and they don't lose
Speaker 2: too much in the Dylan Rooks sort of absence on
Speaker 2: defense or you know whatever sort of ephemeral like culture stuff.
Speaker 2: I think they should be probably right into the contention conversation.
Speaker 1: But then they're in the Western Conference, Harrison, and now
Speaker 1: would mean if they're in this.
Speaker 2: I didn't say they're gonna win the title. I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna be in the Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then but then that means that means the
Speaker 1: Lakers can't be in the finals.
Speaker 3: Well and and I and I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm just much too fragile right now to even handle that.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously seeing them keep like Aman Thompson and shanng.
Speaker 3: Gun and all that, and I'm like, yeah, this is
Speaker 3: trouble for sure. Yeah, how how did the Sons? I'm
Speaker 3: not I'm going to stop asking myself hypothetical questions about
Speaker 3: why the Sons do things?
Speaker 2: If I if I'm a good GM, I'm calling the
Speaker 2: Suns every day. I just want to see what they
Speaker 2: offer me.
Speaker 3: You know, what do you got?
Speaker 2: Can you said anything? What do you got over there?
Speaker 2: What do you have for me yeaheah. They're like they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: well we'll give you Grayson Allen for a second round pick.
Speaker 2: Oh right, sure, man collecting seconds now, we don't nobody
Speaker 2: knows why he thinks he's going for Giannis, but he's
Speaker 2: gonna make the trade before just set you got to
Speaker 2: set yourself up.
Speaker 3: You know, who's the ideal player to match with Luca
Speaker 3: for the next five five years or so? If you
Speaker 3: could choose any player from the.
Speaker 2: League, Oh that's interesting. I mean, if I could choose
Speaker 2: any player, it would be probably Wimby, just because like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's just such a cheat code on the lobs and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and like so clearly addresses a lot
Speaker 2: of the defensive stuff, and just I think sort of
Speaker 2: gives you a, you know, a version of what the
Speaker 2: Lakers had, honestly in the Lebron ad tandem in the bubble,
Speaker 2: where you have like the big that is incredible defensively,
Speaker 2: still a problem on offense, and then you have the
Speaker 2: incredibly talented wing scorer playmaker guy, and you just sort
Speaker 2: of have to fill in defenders around that, but they
Speaker 2: sort of have the offense taken care of as long
Speaker 2: as you have enough credible shooting around them, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: it would be Wemby. I mean the Lakers were obviously
Speaker 2: not getting him, but if I could choose any player
Speaker 2: in the league, it would be him.
Speaker 1: Okay, of the people in the Mark Walter era that
Speaker 1: we're entering, who do you think is like a realistic
Speaker 1: sort of you know, people are like they'll maybe they'll
Speaker 1: try and get Gafford, Like they're not gonna do that,
Speaker 1: don't be silly, But like, what what do you think
Speaker 1: is realistic in terms of if we're not gonna be
Speaker 1: we'll be a little bit more reckless with the spending perhaps,
Speaker 1: uh enough here with what you know, the financials of
Speaker 1: it all.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that the way that that's going to
Speaker 2: affect things more is going to be in the Lakers
Speaker 2: like sort of building out their organization, you know that,
Speaker 2: hiring more scouts, hiring pro personnel scouts which they don't have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't have scouts.
Speaker 2: I was like, what, No, No, no, they have scouts,
Speaker 2: they just didn't have like out scouting the NBA.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, Like like other teams did.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we're truly like kind of resting on
Speaker 1: our Laurels to be like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, a little bit, uh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But when I read that, I was like, come on, baby,
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 2: They're like sort of they were like, you know, Rob
Speaker 2: watches all the Laker games, so he'll see the guys
Speaker 2: when they play against us. I guess, like that's it's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so you know, they're just gonna have a lot
Speaker 2: of re sources like that. You've seen the Dodgers. It's
Speaker 2: not just that they spent on payroll. It's that they
Speaker 2: have like a best in class organization in terms of
Speaker 2: you know, and that's what that guy did there, and
Speaker 2: he sort of slow built that up. He found the
Speaker 2: right gm, he built around him. He you know, like
Speaker 2: fleshed out the front office with as many smart people
Speaker 2: that he could hire. And like that's really the area
Speaker 2: where your money can have more impact than on player salaries,
Speaker 2: because especially in this second Apron era, you know, there's
Speaker 2: so many basketball penalties to exceeding that that you're almost
Speaker 2: better off. Like everybody's gonna spend essentially the same amount.
Speaker 2: Very few teams are going to go like ware. I mean,
Speaker 2: some teams may go under the first apron you know,
Speaker 2: but very few teams are going to go over the
Speaker 2: second apron for a long time, and so you almost
Speaker 2: can get more bang for your buck. I think in
Speaker 2: just like trying to build out your other advantages in
Speaker 2: terms of scouting, in terms of getting the best coaches
Speaker 2: possible on not just your main coach, but your assistant coaches,
Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But Harrison, you're talking about I found it sounds like
Speaker 1: the concept you're talking about things like long term sustainability, stability, bruh.
Speaker 1: The question is how am I getting to the finals
Speaker 1: next year?
Speaker 2: You know I need that.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Well, so I think the Bucks are really going to
Speaker 2: want the Lakers twenty thirty one first round pick, you
Speaker 2: know you'd think, And so I think that's enough to
Speaker 2: get Giannis.
Speaker 3: Twenty thirty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a gale.
Speaker 1: I think I want to hear. Yeah, you know that's
Speaker 1: what I want to hear. Thank you, Thank you. Tell
Speaker 1: me about the Rabbits, George.
Speaker 2: I think you know, if you just if you throw
Speaker 2: in Dalton connect yeah, I think it's like back. I
Speaker 2: think you'll want to be a bar yeah, to.
Speaker 3: Build around for the future Lakers. Then I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: but no, no no, no, no no no no no no no.
Speaker 3: I think I think side connect No maybe yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: just super producer Jabari is pointing out, like maybe we're
Speaker 3: talking pick swap here.
Speaker 2: I don't know, You're right negotiating against myself if I'm
Speaker 2: going to them, I'm calling up Milwaukee and I'm saying,
Speaker 2: you can have one second round pick swap for Giannis.
Speaker 3: Yeah. By the end of the day, Lakers, the balls
Speaker 3: in your court, sir, yeah, good night.
Speaker 2: Do you want the number one draft pick next year?
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Baltimore court hangs.
Speaker 3: Up one last thing on the off season, moves Drew
Speaker 3: Holliday going back to the Blazers, Anthony Simon's going to
Speaker 3: the Celtics. Sits so badly with me.
Speaker 2: Such a weird trade, such.
Speaker 3: A weird trade that just feel it feels like it's
Speaker 3: being written by the Celtics, Like the Celtics just needed
Speaker 3: this and so they got it, Like I don't know,
Speaker 3: like they got they got the Blazers, Like, here's Drew
Speaker 3: Holliday for the two years where you need him and
Speaker 3: can win the championship, and then you give him back
Speaker 3: to us for our young prospect who we currently say
Speaker 3: is like completely untouchable. And I know he wasn't like
Speaker 3: great last season, but still just feels like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2: They did, like what those the European soccer teams did.
Speaker 2: They sent Drew Holliday to the Celtics on loan, you know,
Speaker 2: and they're getting him back now and yeah.
Speaker 3: You guys done? Are you sure? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just send him back? And do you guys
Speaker 3: want Anthony Simons? Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Joe Cronin saw he's like the last team to show.
Speaker 2: The last two teams to trade for Drew Holiday won
Speaker 2: a title the first year. I gotta go get this guy.
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 1: What's his contract even worth? Like this, isn't it something
Speaker 1: wacky too? Like he's not he's on He's on big money,
Speaker 1: isn't he.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's thirty to forty million, I think if I'm
Speaker 2: remembering correctly, I mean, yeah, he's.
Speaker 3: From a salary perspective. Again, why the Celtics did it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: But I'm like, what, Okay, Well, good luck to you
Speaker 1: in Portland, good luck to you all.
Speaker 3: Right, let's uh should we take a break and come
Speaker 3: back and do the final rapid fire round of questions.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, I guess we have to. Okay, okay, we'll
Speaker 1: be right back.
Speaker 3: Man, we're back back one last one, last evil laugh. Why, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm fine. I'm fine.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna ask you a question of those words.
Speaker 3: Just it's very important from a legal yeah, from from
Speaker 3: legally you have to know.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 1: You just respond your chest passed it right back, just
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Speaker 2: I'm happy to I know how this works.
Speaker 1: Okay, you are you are, my sweet sweet boosties child, Brian.
Speaker 3: If you want to.
Speaker 1: Go first, Jackers, I'd.
Speaker 3: Love for you to go first.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Okay, Harrison, we're gonna do this player pairing or that
Speaker 1: player pairing that you would prefer to see where you
Speaker 1: could get with that.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I think you should get with this. This is where
Speaker 2: it's at the first one.
Speaker 1: Okay, this or that Luca and Yannie or Wenby.
Speaker 2: Wenby and Yannis.
Speaker 3: I think, whoa, that would be crazy. Those guys are
Speaker 3: both so tall.
Speaker 2: How does that work? I just think, is it not
Speaker 2: rapid fire? But I think, uh, your defense is just
Speaker 2: impossible to score on with.
Speaker 3: Those defense is actually also important.
Speaker 2: It turns out guys named Harrison love defense and think
Speaker 2: of the championships, so you know they do say that.
Speaker 3: All right, Luca and Joker where Joker and Wemby. I
Speaker 3: feel like, we we know you're Wemby over Luca. Is
Speaker 3: that correct? Ah?
Speaker 2: I think I'd go Luca and Joker just because that
Speaker 2: would be you know, yeah, yeah, I think I think
Speaker 2: their offense would be so unstoppable that playing that Balkin
Speaker 2: ball oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, sign me up. Wemby
Speaker 2: Jokic just feels like a weird fit to me. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure, like they they're both great, they'd make it work,
Speaker 2: but it's just like it's a strange fit.
Speaker 1: It feels like somehow they would get in each other's
Speaker 1: way physically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you can't have that, not at the same
Speaker 2: time on the same team.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, get out of my way? What are
Speaker 3: you doing?
Speaker 2: Although Wemby would be thrilled. He's like, I don't have
Speaker 2: to guard Yokic anymore.
Speaker 3: I love this Luca and Wemby or Joker and Yannis.
Speaker 2: I think we maybe know this Luca and Wemby or
Speaker 2: Joker and Yannis. I would go. I think probably Joker
Speaker 2: and yannism.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I'm just imagining both of those.
Speaker 2: I just know.
Speaker 1: Actually I'm going Luca Wenby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like Giannis, I hasn't shown me enough
Speaker 2: off the ball to be like that. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's immediately going to go sort of run off if
Speaker 2: you get like you would want him to. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I think it's Luca and.
Speaker 3: That you will notice that we just go silent when
Speaker 3: you do the wrong the wrong answer and until answer.
Speaker 3: I'm not that one, Okay, Luca Shay, You'll just Alexander
Speaker 3: or Luca and Ant And these are being presented by
Speaker 3: jabari as just like these are options here because all
Speaker 3: of these guys are gonna come home eventually.
Speaker 2: I'm going Luca and Ant because I just think Aunt
Speaker 2: was born to be a Laker like many great players
Speaker 2: from the history of Minnesota, and you know, I think
Speaker 2: he could be the city's latest greatest Minneapolis import.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, absolutely, absolutely, it's just a pipeline something from
Speaker 3: there's a there's a long tradition of Minneapolis handing things
Speaker 3: to Los Angeles so that they can flourish.
Speaker 1: We just drink their milkshake as it were. Okay, So, Harrison,
Speaker 1: we just talked about the KD trade. Uh And we
Speaker 1: had the Desmond Baine news last week where he said
Speaker 1: I was in a chamber.
Speaker 2: Of darkness like Baine.
Speaker 3: It was so dark in that windowless facility.
Speaker 1: Can you give us your predictions on where these players
Speaker 1: are gonna end up next season?
Speaker 2: And get getting silly with it? That cool?
Speaker 3: Well, you had to do that or else it falls apart.
Speaker 2: It really falls apart.
Speaker 3: It really falls apart, to be honest, To.
Speaker 1: Be honest, Harrison, where's Gianni's going to be next season?
Speaker 3: Okay? And now and now do a silly one?
Speaker 2: I just a Toronto?
Speaker 3: Wow? Why Toronto?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just seems like the type of
Speaker 2: thing that they do, like where you know, they swine
Speaker 2: on the wildly talented wing that is available to them
Speaker 2: for some reason, for lower than it would be for
Speaker 2: other teams, and you know, just go win a title.
Speaker 2: That's what miss I does.
Speaker 3: All right, joh and Triple J. Where are they going?
Speaker 2: They're they're both going to the same team. They're getting
Speaker 2: sent out in like a sure. No, I think I
Speaker 2: think as good as you are, you can always get better,
Speaker 2: you know, use some some more bench weapons. Yeah, Jos
Speaker 2: six Man of the Year, you know, it's perfect role.
Speaker 2: What about Lebron James, I mean really the only answer Actually,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna say. He wants to he
Speaker 2: wants to go rejoin with a d and he's wanted
Speaker 2: to play with Kyrie. Uh, you know, he's just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it seems like they get things done for their players
Speaker 2: over there as long as they're not Luca. You know,
Speaker 2: he wanted a center, he got, he got seven centers,
Speaker 2: So you know, Lebron, Lebron's gonna get nine point guards
Speaker 2: to take the load off of him until he gets
Speaker 2: tired of them and takes over at point guard.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: And finally, Jalen Brown, I would have said the Rockets
Speaker 2: until they made the Katie trade, because that seemed like
Speaker 2: it was something that was, you know, maybe gonna happen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Hawks, they want to make some noise m hm
Speaker 2: from Atlanta, bringing them home. Yeah, from Atlanta. Yeah, and Harrison,
Speaker 2: all the right answers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's no. We got to bring it home now, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: to bring Those were the right answers. But I can't. Oh,
Speaker 3: this could be the wrong answer answer in that section.
Speaker 3: Those are all the right answers.
Speaker 1: This next section, this could be a wrong answer, and
Speaker 1: there is a wrong answer one last time, Harrison Fagan
Speaker 1: for everybody in the back.
Speaker 2: Jacker, Miles, Miles, Uh, you know la receptionalism.
Speaker 3: Oh, the right answer.
Speaker 2: Look, I do it. I can't. I can't pick some
Speaker 2: East Coaster come on.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I needed that.
Speaker 3: I needed that.
Speaker 2: Jack's fine, He's fine, He's gonna be fine. He's gonna
Speaker 2: jack about him. Jack, you're my second favorite host, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: You're means a lot. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: You know, it's huge top two Miles and Jack, it's okay.
Speaker 3: I believe I was three and one hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: eight according to Ryan, So that's that all makes sense
Speaker 3: for the hundred and seventy one episodes.
Speaker 1: Or he asked that, Well, we stopped asking for a
Speaker 1: while because it was getting a little silly.
Speaker 3: No, So what happened is we we stopped leaving it
Speaker 3: in the episode. We we asked every time, and it
Speaker 3: was like whenever they'd say Miles, I'd be like, caught it, Yeah,
Speaker 3: caught it.
Speaker 2: You broke a lot of desks. I remember we did
Speaker 2: you seriously used to ask every guest. Yeah, we know
Speaker 2: that's insane.
Speaker 3: Oh insanely good, right, good content.
Speaker 2: I feel worse for Jack. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, no, sorry, it's been a hard road,
Speaker 3: you know, and me and taking some solace from Sam Press.
Speaker 3: You just keep doing it. Keep wait, the show's ending.
Speaker 1: Yeahs can cut a long run short, as they say,
Speaker 1: you know, and we took no shortcuts.
Speaker 2: And this was a long and storied ride.
Speaker 1: So, Harrison Fagan, thank you so much for joining us
Speaker 1: on the final episode of Miles and.
Speaker 3: Jack Got Mad Boosties.
Speaker 2: Where the where did the people find you?
Speaker 1: Because you continue on to cover the league.
Speaker 3: Miles and I disappear at the end of this episode
Speaker 3: like obibi just a pile of clothes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, Jack just went in a force
Speaker 2: go he really just he just disappeared. It's just closed,
Speaker 2: just dropped to the ground and he's blue. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: uh you know. You can follow me on Twitter at
Speaker 2: at h M Fagan. Uh and then obviously all of
Speaker 2: our work over at sp nation dot com. And guys,
Speaker 2: thanks for having me for the last one. It's an
Speaker 2: it's been an honor. And uh yeah I was. I
Speaker 2: was not excited to get the call because it means
Speaker 2: the show's ending, but you know, I appreciate the invite.
Speaker 1: Oh man, well, you can find me everywhere at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray if you still if you still want, if
Speaker 1: you still wish, And.
Speaker 3: Obviously on other show, the Daily Zeitegist that guys still
Speaker 3: going on on that Jack Underscore Obrian on Twitter, Jack
Speaker 3: obi the number one on Blue Sky a reference to
Speaker 3: Obi Wan and my ability to just turn into a
Speaker 3: pile of clothes.
Speaker 2: Yep, oh my god, you came back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there he is there we are. Uh, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Don't search hashtag mat boosties for links and updates because
Speaker 3: it's can be it. But we will be talking NBA
Speaker 3: on uh.
Speaker 1: Dailey's Eitgeist and of course, yeah, the the chattering still
Speaker 1: goes on again. Thank you to everybody who played a
Speaker 1: pivotal role in this show. Obviously Jabari Davis, Brian the editor,
Speaker 1: our two biggest day ones Literal day Ones on this show.
Speaker 1: This show would not be where it is without your work,
Speaker 1: your dedication, lending me your basketball intelligence to pretend I'm
Speaker 1: not just a totally out of my mind Laker fan,
Speaker 1: and I do know some things about the other teams
Speaker 1: from time to time.
Speaker 3: So I do owe you a debt of gratitude forever. Jabari. Also,
Speaker 3: just you know, the iHeart family, Sean Peter Race, you know,
Speaker 3: day one and the NBA people, Steven Channing, Meredith, love
Speaker 3: to you all.
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking a chance on two.
Speaker 3: Just Adam is over, Yeah, Silver Adam was a big
Speaker 3: fan Lebron Jamee. Come on. We were like, let's not
Speaker 3: mix business and pleasure at him. But you know, always
Speaker 3: fun and you know these past three years as a
Speaker 3: Sixers fan a lot of times, but I'm looking back
Speaker 3: at that beach and I only see one set of footsteps, yep,
Speaker 3: And I say, Miles, why did you abandon me? You say, Jack,
Speaker 3: it was it was during those seasons that I carried you,
Speaker 3: and so I have to thank you as well.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Well Jack, I'll.
Speaker 3: See you tomorrow anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Hope listen, but thank you all for listening, and we'll
Speaker 1: see you soon.
Speaker 3: Later bribe