1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Did you see you know that Rest in Peace Boso 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: the James Worthy meme? 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you know what that clip is from? 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 3: Uh? 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: Isn't it from they beat the Celtics and he lit 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: up a cigar? 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: The common misconception? 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: That's what Javari said. You know how sad this one is. 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: It's from February fourth, twenty eighteen where twenty one and 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: thirty one Lakers beat the Oklahoma City Thunder one O 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: eight one oh four. 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. Yeah, so yeah, we're smoking on that 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: loud pack because. 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: Man, but I totally thought that there was when you 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: said it was Satdur, I thought it was going to 17 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: be like a red hourback died and he was doing 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 2: a tribute to him on air crip and people are like, oh, like, yeah, 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: let's put rest in Peace Boso. Yeah, you know that 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: is probably the energy James would bring to that tribute. 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: But you know, but it's even funnier because they're like, 22 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: you're saying, recipe because we beat the thirty and twenty 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: fourth Thunder at the time. 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: They were only thirty twenty four. Then yeah, what a time? 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: But time you guys want me to record locally? Right? 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: Yes? 27 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Please Okay, should I just start that now or okay 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: if you wire? 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I think I think we can prolong the show. If 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: we don't turn this show in, we don't wait Yeah, 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: it's like it's like yeah, no. 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: Guys, we're still recording it, just problem as we go. 33 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Don't even trying it. We're trying to get it done. 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Steve, I know you're gonna have to render my Yeah, 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: yeah one more time, guys. Yeah we still we got 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: edits and stuff on this. Is that really like Philibus 37 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Spring or like yeahs our yeah yeah. 38 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly ship Alex Caruso. 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: He was a minus three on the night. 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: M James is like, the guy's a bum. Guy's a 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: boom rest of piece, bozone. I'm out of here, resting 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: peace bow So Tucker better tucking into some Tim Wharton's. 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: That's been my time. That's been my time. We're honor. 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: This isn't a comedy club, sir, you're the defendant. Okay, sorry, 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: all right, that's been my time. 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: All right, that's been my time. You're honor. Tipperators on 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: the well. 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: Well well well, well well. 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: Well and finally, well well well, episode one seventy one. 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: If I met a lot of people who make it 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 3: to one seventy one. No, no, A lot of people 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: wouldn't think we would make it to two. Do you 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: know how Parson? You know how old Elvis was when 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: he died. Don't look it up. Don't look it up. 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: Fifty I was. 56 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: Gonna say, fifty five. 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Who's forty two? 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: He looked bad. 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: I don't know fourth too, it's so ye. But look 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: at us, look at early. Some of us are over 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: that age. And yet we made it to one hundreds 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: every one episodes and lot's right. 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Nobody said we could do it. 64 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: Nobody said so. But at the end of the season, 65 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: we do have a champion. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder. 66 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: They took care of business in Game seven, although. 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: It was a kind of a downer Game seven. I 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: must say sad game seven. Normally I don't expect my 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: Game seven is to be sad. 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: It was no games. 71 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: It was definitely I think, overshadowed by the Halberd injury. 72 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: But also we've got Katie trade news if that interests you, 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: and maybe talking about the future of the Lakers. 74 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: I don't know who knows her this. 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: Is going because baby, this is the last episode. 76 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: Of I'm Miles Great and I'm Jack O'Brien and this. 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Is Miles and Jack got bad Boostingtory get it. 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 5: Look at the East Okay, be driving Spinny. 79 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: Fatter numbers, p G. 80 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 6: That's good show something short, champion over the double team time. 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: What you got guys? 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: Wow, we got it, We got it and luckily did it. 83 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: And you know who we got on the guest chair, 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: The associate director of Pro Basketball for ASBI Nation, Harrison Bacon. 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: Finishing things off on Boost. He's like Kobe dropping sixty, 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: taking another fingers journey taking a. 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: Lot of people have been calling me washed all year, 88 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: but I think I got one laugh good performance than me. 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: You got now we believe you. We didn't call you 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: in for nothing, Harrison. I called you in to tell 91 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: me that the Lakers will win next season. That's actually 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: what I repeatedly called the final for himself on the show. 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. And then it'll be Lakers six or right in 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: the finals next season. Yeah, yeah, that's what we said. 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: I mean, So this is this is why so the 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: people a lot of people are asking why is the 97 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: show ending? Miles and I did make a promise to 98 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: each other. Yep, if by the third season of the show, 99 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: it's not the Lakers and the seventy six ers in 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: the finals, then we would end it yeah and get 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: married yeah instead, And so thanks didn't happen, I don't think. 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: But Harrison will be the efficient, so we do. We 103 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: do appreciate that. 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: But I guess, yeah, the finals, just touching up on 105 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: that game seven. 106 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: Game seven, baby, yeah. 107 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: I mean at this point, I'm sure no one's tuning 108 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: into this episode. 109 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: So here what happened seven and six? What if somebody 110 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: just the only way they found out about NBA basketball 111 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: was listening to this podcast. 112 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Are something, no, legit, there are probably one person at least, 113 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: there's all other one or something yeah no, and other 114 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: listeners from other shows we do are like, yeah, I 115 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: like the basketball one too, Like I get to learn 116 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: stuff about it. Brian the editor says, you're editor, perhaps, 117 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah. 118 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: Brian didn't know the NBA was the thing. He was like, 119 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: so this show is being this show's ended because the 120 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: NBA stopped having a league, right, And we're. 121 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: Like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not 122 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: how that works at all, my dear sweet child. 123 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, basketball shutting down everyone. 124 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: We did it it was a good one. Yeah, yeah, 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: I do like this clip the super producer Jabbari and 126 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: once again we shouted him out last week. But Super 127 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: the man, the show run man who makes it good, uh, 128 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: who makes it coherent? Coherent? Yes, he found a great 129 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: clip of Sam Presty that I wanted to play real quick. 130 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: If we do, we are we able to play it? 131 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: Do? 132 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: We got this clip real quick, We got that clipt 133 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: this clip here we go. 134 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: Here is by the way, we were able to like 135 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: play NBA clips this whole time, and we just like didn't, 136 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: as I said, because we couldn't, because we couldn't shut 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: ourselves up. So well, you know, I remember when when 138 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: we were trying, we're. 139 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: Like, oh, We're like, this is not outbad so sick? 140 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: Oh John, No, yeah no. 141 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: And that's that's That's kind of how the running commentary was. 142 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: But here's Sam Presty in twenty twenty one, just given 143 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: a long view into the future. 144 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 5: As I said earlier, we can't be reactionary or emotional 145 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 5: about it. We just have to keep chipping away every 146 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 5: single day, knowing that over time will achieve our goals. 147 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 5: If we have the ployse the patients and the willingness 148 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 5: to adjust to the setbacks that we know will inevitably encounter. 149 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 5: As they say, shortcuts cut long, run short, and we're 150 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: going to do everything in our power not to allow 151 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 5: that to happen. And when we do get back to 152 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: the postseason, we want it to be an arrival and 153 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: not an appearance and arrival meaning that we can return, 154 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 5: we can be there, we can take some you know, 155 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 5: some chance or bad fortune and not have it sink 156 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 5: us in completely. 157 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: We've seen the benefit of that, and you. 158 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 5: Know, during our our earlier years, we don't want a 159 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 5: position where we get there but we have no way 160 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 5: to get back. And that's the focus and the precision 161 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: with which we're working. We understand the ecosystem of the NBA, 162 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 5: I think very very well. We understand how that works. 163 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 5: We understand what we have to work with, and I 164 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 5: feel extremely confident and optimistic about the future that we 165 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 5: have here. We just have to continue to stick with it. 166 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: Okay. So that's him. So, by the way, the architect 167 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: of the Oklahoma City Thunder who just won the title, 168 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: speaking in uh at the end of the twenty twenty 169 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one season, this is my impression of me 170 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: after he said that, okay, Boso whatever. 171 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: Fifty one. 172 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so a little contact. They were twenty two 173 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: and fifty one. Yep, that's every year. 174 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: That was year that Shae missed like the whole second 175 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: half of the season or some big chunk of it, right, 176 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: and the year that they, you know, sort of took 177 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: in al Horford and then shut him down because he 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: was playing too well before flipping him to the Celtics. 179 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, I found an article where they were summarizing 180 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: that that's like his final media appearance of the twenty 181 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one season. And there's like this article in 182 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: USA Today where they're like, so he like doesn't want 183 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: like there's so many great players on the market and 184 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: like they're not even gonna do anything. Quote with Bradley Beal, 185 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: Kemba Walker, Christaph's Porzingis and even Damian Lillard floating in 186 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: the rumor mill the Oklahoma City Thunder have started to pop 187 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: up around social media and think pieces, but it's highly 188 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: unlikely the Thunder trade for one of these players and 189 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: then summarizing like he's you know, he spoke to the 190 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: mediaan was like we're good over here, and yeah, he 191 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: talks to. 192 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: The media for like like three hours at the end 193 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: of every season. He'll just take like every single possible 194 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: question they have. 195 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I would have been I would have been 196 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: one of the people being like really, here's from later 197 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 3: in that article about bial Bal has averaged more than 198 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: thirty points per game for two seasons in a row. 199 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: He did this while shooting forty eight point five percent 200 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: this season despite defenders draped around him, which was like, 201 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: the thing about bial is like, you gotta get Bal 202 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: because his team is so bad and yet he's scoring 203 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: all these points. That must mean that it is extra hard. 204 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, stuck to his vision truly, just I don't know, 205 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: and everybody in the organization was willing to have the 206 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: patience Like it's it's tough, I understand it. It's easy 207 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: to be like everybody should have patience and just like 208 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: let the vision play out. The problem with that is like, 209 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: what if the person you're having patience with is an idiot, 210 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: you know, then you've wasted five years. So that's the 211 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: problem with patience. But they got up to the bulls, 212 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: you know, they stuck with it. 213 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: You know, they've they've been really patient, and it seems 214 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: like it's with the wrong. 215 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: Guy patient, you know, going nowhere. 216 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, KD. 217 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: I feel like the KD Russ hardened Core made it 218 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: easy on them because like they were like, all right, 219 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: this guy might know what he's talking about, so we'll 220 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: let him not go after Damian Lillard, Kemba Walker, Bradley 221 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: Beale and Porzingis. 222 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean it's sild that that is, like that's like 223 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: the Grim Reaper knocking at the door meme of names. 224 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's like every literally any of those guys 225 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: would have destroyed this title run. I think because of 226 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: how much they're making and like how many you know, 227 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: how much flexibility. The Thunder wouldn't have had to go 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: get guys like Alex caruso Isa Heart and seen all 229 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: that stuff. Like it just would have made them a 230 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: totally different team with any of those guys and probably 231 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: torpedoed this run before it began. 232 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just so impressed, you know, like because in 233 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: the era of impatient front offices, impatient owners, impatient fans 234 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: that just this truly like this is the philosophy we're 235 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: sticking to and see it pay off just like in 236 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: this spectacular way. 237 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: Where does this like even rank. 238 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: With other executives who are like, here's my thing. We're 239 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: gonna try this, and I think it's gonna work, and 240 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: I think this is actually gonna bring sustainable you know, 241 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: performances to this club, this franchise. 242 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: I feel like it's pretty similar to like Brad Stevens, 243 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: like in that, you know, having a singular vision that 244 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: they stuck with for for a period of time in 245 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: Boston and like them winning the title last year, but 246 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: even they are not like it feels like he's the 247 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: only person who has them, Like who was talking about aprons, 248 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: because like he, they just seem so well set up 249 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: and the rest of the league is like now being like, 250 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: oh no, oh, we're gonna have to trade some of 251 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 3: our guys who like are good all right, and they 252 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: just seem like they've got it, like just a nesting 253 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: doll of like you know, people coming of age at 254 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: the right time in contracts like feeding into one another. 255 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: It sort of reminds me of where Presty came from 256 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: the Spurs. It's you know, when they had their dynasty 257 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: going on and they were just like they were drafting 258 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: guys and just bring them in and developing them and 259 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: sort of cost controlling them and again different CBA to 260 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: you know, you could pay to keep a man Whu 261 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: and you know Tony Parker and a Tim Duncan and 262 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: you know, uh and a Kawai and all these guys. 263 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: But it does it's reminiscent of that of like, hey, 264 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: we're not going to get necessarily get stars to come 265 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: here in free agency or demand a trade to end 266 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: up here, and so we just need to take all 267 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: the bets on young talent that we can and figure 268 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: out who works. 269 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it sounds like I was just like having 270 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: really dedicating the like the culture of the players too, 271 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: because this isn't like a team with a like stars 272 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: in that sense, like with egos like that. And I 273 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, it's yeah, it's hard to have that 274 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: kind of thing. 275 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: Especially they all talk like Coach Carter, like Friday Night 276 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: Lights character, just like it's an entire team of just 277 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: like coach speak. It's like they all talk exactly like 278 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: Presty from the coach down to the players and all 279 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: that stuff. So you know, really it's really culture of 280 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: saying absolutely nothing interesting ever, and so maybe that's the lesson. 281 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: Not a lot of familiar names on that roster from 282 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: that year when he's given that speech. But Shay Gilles, Alexander, Louguentz, Dort, Lugats, 283 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: lou Dort and the coach were all there. And you know, 284 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: despite the fact that their offensive raiding was thirtieth of thirty, 285 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: their overall rating was like thirtieth of thirty, defensive rating 286 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: was twenty fourth, net rating thirtieth of thirty in the league, 287 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: like the worst in the league. 288 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: They were real bad that year. There were a lot 289 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: of guys playing that are I'm guessing or not in 290 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: the league anymore? 291 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: Four years ago, five years ago, like four years ago, 292 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: they were the worst in the league. They didn't land Jannis, 293 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: They didn't like just suddenly pull one of the great players. 294 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: They had the best player that currently was on their 295 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: team when they won the title a few days ago. 296 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: He was on their team that year. He was hurt, 297 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: but like he was, he was there and nobody was 298 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: saying anything except like, man, he's actually like developing into 299 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: a nice little player. But nobody was like, this is 300 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: the core that right, and. 301 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: Maybe he could make an All Star team one day, 302 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: you know, in the right year. 303 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: SG and lou Dort were not Nobody was like, that's 304 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: the core. That there's your core. The core is in place, 305 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: and yeah, you know, it's pretty impressive what they just 306 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: pulled off. So shout out to the Thunder Shout out 307 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: to the Thunder fans, Shout out to Sonic fans going back, 308 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: anybody who's stuck with them. 309 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: A crossover. 310 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot of angry SONI shout Sonic fans 311 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: who are because mainly that's what I identify with is 312 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: a spite as an NBA fan. 313 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: Not only did your team move, but they moved with 314 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: like maybe the best NBA GM ever running the team 315 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: and like apparently patient owners and like all that, like 316 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: everything that you would want from your team, and they're 317 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: just like, you know, we're just gonna take this and 318 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: move it to Oklahoma City. But you can watch from afar. 319 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: It's fine, you know. That's I I can't even imagine 320 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: how I would feel as a Sonics fan today. 321 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, should we should we move to the other side 322 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: of the ball because I can't remember a runner up 323 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: that is as memorable as this Pacers team? Yeah for real? 324 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, no one remembers the second place, but I 325 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: don't know. Yes, I feel like, yeah, let's say, we'll 326 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: be right, and we're back. We're back. I do feel 327 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: like more than football, I do remember the NBA runners up. 328 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: Is that just because I like basketball better than football? 329 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: I think so, But probably all the like. 330 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: I remember all the teams that Jordan beat to win 331 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: the title. You know, those were all like fairly iconic 332 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: in my guys, in your. 333 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: Guys, yeah, the bad guys in the documentary, you know, 334 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: these are the guys that are trying to kill Michael 335 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: Jordan midair and then the yeah, and then they cut 336 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: back and he's like, you know, I just popped my 337 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: leg back into place. I ate some food, poison pizza, 338 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: and just got back back out there. 339 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: You know, the Pacers were so memorable, Like I can't 340 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: remember a team having a run like this that felt 341 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: this out of nowhere, like heading into the playoffs. I 342 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 3: don't like, they just like had a magic about them 343 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: that like started coming out in the playoffs. I know 344 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: they were playing well. I don't think anybody saw this, 345 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: Like where does this rank on like second place like 346 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: teams that lost in the finals for you in terms 347 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: of like how memorable they are? 348 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: Harrison, you know, honestly, the team that comes to mind 349 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: as a memorable second place finisher is actually the thunder 350 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: from when they lost to the Heat, because it was like, hey, 351 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: look at these young guys. It's clear that the you know, 352 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: they have something cooking here. They're going to be back 353 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: a bunch more times, right, And then they never were, 354 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: and but it that was a fairly memorable team. They 355 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: upset the Spurs. You know, they had again it was 356 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: like young KD, Young Russ. It's like the teams don't 357 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: win when they're this young, and they ended up not winning, 358 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: but they were really good. And I do remember that 359 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: team from that year quite a bit. I'm trying to. 360 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess maybe either the Spurs or the 361 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: Heat from their finals battles, you know, those were both 362 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: sort of like, you know, like the year the Spurs 363 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: came up short in Game seven. They were obviously a 364 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: memorable runner up, but. 365 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: It's always like iconic teams that like you had a 366 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: sense we're going to be there coming into the playoffs. 367 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: So this was like such a weird like almost like 368 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: NC double a tournament esque like Cinderella run that just 369 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: like came up. 370 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: It felt like they were actually a great comp They 371 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: were primed for a DVD basically, you know, really season, 372 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: They're like when. 373 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: TJ McConnell scored like five times in a row, it's like, 374 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: what is it? 375 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 5: Like? 376 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: What is I'm gonna love watching this scene in the 377 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: documentary that's in never able about this run. 378 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, just another achilles injury. Miles. As you pointed 379 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: out to an All Star who wears the number zero 380 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: the third one of these playoffs. 381 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: I was just being like, what's with the number zero 382 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: this year? I mean, I Kyrie doesn't wear zero. But 383 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: I think maybe, look in my mind, maybe it's the 384 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: one weird note thing I noticed and as it happened, 385 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: But maybe it's the low top sneakers. 386 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know. This is so weird. 387 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it was where do you land with the 388 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: Achilles of it all? 389 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that it's you know this has 390 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: been said before, but it's that the sport is so 391 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: different than it ever was in you know, the years 392 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: when sort of like we were talking about like the 393 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: Jordan year stuff like that, there wasn't this amount of 394 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: running around on defense, stop start, you know, rotations and 395 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: all of that stuff. And I do wonder if it's 396 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: just taking a toll on guy's bodies. And I also 397 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: remember reading like an ESPN story from Baxter Holmes a 398 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: number of years ago where it was like where it 399 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: was talking about how youth sports specialization is actually making 400 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: guys knees worse. This is like a documented thing because 401 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: kids aren't playing multiple sports and like working out multiple 402 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: different muscles anymore. It's like, you know, you're just using 403 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: those run and jump muscles playing basketball and you know 404 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: you're wearing out. There's more guys coming into the league 405 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: with knee issues, and I think it's like a combination 406 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: of all of that stuff. Is bodies this big weren't 407 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: meant to be discordinated and moving around and stopping and 408 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: starting all the time. And you know, it's just players 409 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: are bigger and more skilled than they've ever been, and 410 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: it's a more frenetic game than it's ever been. And 411 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: I do think that there is probably something to that. 412 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: Well, especially with the way these teams played like off 413 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: like the Pacers offense and the Thunder defense. 414 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: If someone from like thirty years will be like, what 415 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: are they doing out there? Yeah, you just bring in 416 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: like one of the bad Boys Pistons. He's like a 417 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: legal defense. 418 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: YEA, what do you. 419 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh so we can oh so the screen we can move? Now? 420 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, I got something for that, although I 421 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: would have led to see that. 422 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, to your point, like Michael Jordan stunk at basketball 423 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: when he was a sophomore in high school, as we 424 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: all know, got cut and only liked baseball. As the 425 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: story goes, that's not true. He just like didn't make 426 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: his varsity team. I think his freshman year or sophomore year. 427 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: He was still good. But yeah, it does seem like 428 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: specialization is more a thing everybody's like, Okay, now I'm 429 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: going to going from basketball practice to my one on 430 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: one basketball training session with my basketball coach. Yeah, it's 431 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: a don't I don't know exactly what it is. It 432 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: definitely just seems like it's a harder on the body, 433 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: and we're probably gonna see a world where like people 434 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: get shut down in the finals regardless of what, you know, 435 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: how close it is, because they have a strained calf. 436 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 3: Like the strained calf feels like it's got to be like, yeah, 437 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: a red line. Now. 438 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean I remember last week Sarah Todd was on 439 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: and we're talking about like it sounds like he's gonna 440 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: play with that calf. 441 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: Injury, and everyone was like, of course he's gonna play 442 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: with that, is it? 443 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? And if we were joking like that. 444 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: Thing is going to be fall off the bone tender 445 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: by the time he's done playing that and it went 446 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: a little bit too literally, But that just completely changed 447 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: how I like, just for me, it was such a 448 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: blow to the enjoyment of that game, and it felt 449 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: like that's kind of how it even felt in the 450 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: arena too, Like it felt very subdued, like it was 451 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, we won. 452 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: That was kind of. 453 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: A grim way to end it all though that felt 454 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: a little bit rough. I don't know if that was 455 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: the same for everyone else, but at a certain point, 456 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: like I had to actively just like kind of walk 457 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: away for like long stretches because like, oh, this is tough. 458 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: No. 459 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: It almost looked like the Thunder players were going through 460 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 2: it too, of like yeah, thing of like did we 461 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: just watch this guy's entire career change and then now 462 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: it's you know, we got to go play do or 463 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: die basketball. It just seemed like, again, it takes nothing 464 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: away from Thunder. They were obviously totally deserving and legitimate Champiel. 465 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: It was just a really weird vibe for a game 466 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: seven of you had all these guys just clearly processing 467 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: it in the moment, and even like you said in 468 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: the arena, like, I think the Thunder players probably feel 469 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: bad to some degree. You know, they're professional athletes. These 470 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: guys are all human. Like, nobody wants to see that. 471 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: And they probably also want to win that like, and 472 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: just as competitors like I want to beat the best 473 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: version of my opponent. You know, I don't ever want 474 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: to feel like we only won because this happened, although 475 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: we were. 476 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: Playing very well. 477 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: But even like even the locker room felt very even 478 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: with those michelobe. 479 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 3: Joints michel ultrue joints. 480 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, our man, Chet, even did you hear that? 481 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: No, I saw the one of Alex Cruzo teaching them 482 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: how to open champagne. Yeah remember where you learned that, Alex? Yeah? 483 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: No, this is right after they were talking about to 484 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: Chet about like the you know, champagne showers of locker room. 485 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: What's going on? 486 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: And then he hits us with a brand new pronunciation 487 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: for michelob ultra. 488 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: But for now, I got my michelob ultra joints, My Michel. 489 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: Chet Chet is my favorite, like arks on rec side character. 490 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's just truly he has written like a 491 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 3: we were trying to figure out what it wasn't like 492 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: extras maybe like he's like Ricky Gervais, the Ricky Gervais Show, 493 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 3: you know, like just a heightened version of like what 494 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: a comedy writer would think was funny if he had 495 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 3: that personality. And uh, yeah, whoever's writing him, they're nailing 496 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: it because it's very funny. 497 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: You could see him in parks and rec like at 498 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: those city council meetings. 499 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. He's at the 500 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: city council meeting like complaining about like fluoride in the water. 501 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: No, no, he's complaining about the varietals at the library. 502 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: There's not varieties of picture book. Yeah. We were obsessed 503 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: with his clip Harrison where he takes you through his 504 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: favorite books and he's, uh, he can't live without. 505 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 506 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, these are a type of book with 507 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 3: pictures that I like to call coffee table books. And 508 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: then and then is like, shows you one that's about jewelry, 509 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: and he's like, but I've got all sorts of varieties 510 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: of these and then shows you another just like coffee 511 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: table book, the books or varieties. I've got different varieties 512 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 3: of books. Yeah, baby, Yeah. His car he needs to 513 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: be wearing, uh, snowboarding goggles on. Like I feel like 514 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: that's forever still yet to come for him and needs 515 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: to happen. That's the Definitely, he's like he feels like 516 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 3: he'd be John Ralphiel's bodyguard or something. 517 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna get photos of him like celebrating in like 518 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: overseas somewhere. He's like on his like you know, like 519 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: post championship European vacation and he's going to be surfing 520 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: on like two surfboards that they had to weld together 521 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: or something. You know, it's just. 522 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: Duct tape them together. Man, coming down the way. Yeah yeah, 523 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: whoa easy, baby, easy. 524 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: I will say, shout out to him though he gave 525 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: He gave me the idea for my best bet, which 526 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: was betting on Oklahoma City last year in the off season. 527 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 3: Unfortunately a year too early. But man, just seeing him 528 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: in Summer League, I was like, he looks good. Maybe 529 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: they'll be good this year and uh, and they were 530 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: just not quite good enough. 531 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: What do you think, Harrison? 532 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: This like this sort of finals run kind of says 533 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: for a lot of people who were like, yeah, I 534 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: don't see the Pacers. It's gonna be the It's gonna 535 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: be thunder and four, five, maybe five probably at most. 536 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: Do you think they're like because I was talking to 537 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: one of my friends who was basically disrespecting the Pacers 538 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: the whole time, despite like performance after performance, and it 539 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: wasn't until game seven. 540 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: That he was like, all right, maybe like fine, I 541 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: was like, really, it. 542 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Took you that long? It just feels I don't know, 543 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like this, where where do where? How should 544 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: people be really be looking at this team? Because I 545 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: feel like some people might just go back to I 546 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: don't know, like without with knowing how halliburton injuries, Halliburton's 547 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: injury is gonna pan out and just all of it, 548 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, surrounding this the end of the season, does 549 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: this seem like, you know, are they gonna be right 550 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: back in it? 551 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean what sucks with the injuries. It's a 552 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: year long one and he literally had it in the 553 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: last possible basketball game that you could play, and so 554 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: he's like all of next year is probably wiped out 555 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: for them, you know, like bar again, they are a 556 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: team out of a sports movie, and so they could 557 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: prove us wrong. And it's like, oh, TJ McConnell's an 558 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: All Star next year. 559 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: TJ McConnell's sister is now on the team, and you're like, okay, great, 560 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: I love this, dude, that's the sports movie plotline. 561 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: It's like, Hey, I got to invite my sister to 562 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: come play because we had an injury. You know, my 563 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: dad's a coach. 564 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a weird old by law that says if 565 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: I have the same last name as the person, they're 566 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: allowed to suit up. 567 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 2: Or than saying my sister can't play basketball. He's like, 568 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: they're like, no, airbud rules don't work in real life. Wow, 569 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: you know we actually do have a rule against that. 570 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are there are courts where people would adjudicate 571 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: this decision. 572 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, she has the same initials TJ McConnell, I broke 573 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: my ankle, but she can come in and play for. 574 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: It on paper the exact same thing. 575 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: Does the NBA not do trial by combat? 576 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 577 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: So I think they're probably done for next year, which 578 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: does suck. But I think that I've never felt more 579 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: like one of the pundits that they show in the 580 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: montage in a sports movie when like after games that 581 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: the Pacers played, where I'm like, you know, I was 582 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: down at my parents' house, you know, I'm I'm associate 583 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: director of Pro Basketball. They're asking me for my opinion 584 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: on the finals. I'm like, oh, I got it. Sound smart. 585 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, PACER's cute. Sorry, I just like, 586 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: I don't even know if they can get a game. 587 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: This Thunder team, this Thunder defense is so good, and 588 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: then they win Game one and I just look like 589 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: an idiot. And you know, it's like I can see 590 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: the clips of you know, all the first take you know, 591 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 2: talking heads, the you know, you're the people on Fox Sports, 592 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: the whatever, you know, it's it's the montage of like 593 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: this team has no chance. And then TJ McConnell is 594 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: like showing a video of it in the locker room 595 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: to all of his guys and he's like, Thomas Bran, 596 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: are you gonna let them talk about you like that? 597 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: And he's like, no, I'm not. I'm gonna score nine. 598 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see. Your parents were in the comments 599 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: of our episode talking a lot of trash about your team. 600 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: I mean deservedly. So yeah, you know, they got three 601 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: other kids, so they'll be fine. But it's just, you know, 602 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: I feel bad for embarrassing them on a national stage 603 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: like this. 604 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: That's right, all right? Should we move beyond the finals matchup? Sure? 605 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: Look to the future. How long do we have with this? Like, yes, 606 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: the thunderlook set for the future. The West also looks 607 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: very competitive and there's a lot of intriguing people who 608 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: might jump up, such as Victor Webbing Yama. How long 609 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: do we think until the Spurs are a contender? Because 610 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: I think some people were like, I don't know, maybe 611 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: maybe this year, and that didn't end up being the 612 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: case because of an injury, but also prior to the 613 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: injury also didn't seem to be the case. What do 614 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 3: we think is it this year? 615 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: They just don't seem to be in a rush. I 616 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: think it's two more. I think it's another year after 617 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: this before they start to enter that conversation. I think 618 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: Wenby will have to keep developing obvious, although he's obviously 619 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: incredible already, but they're probably gonna lose something with Chris 620 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: Paul going out. I mean, I know they have to 621 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: Aaron Fox now, but it doesn't seem like they're rushing 622 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: to make an all and move this summer, Like they 623 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: didn't seem to get seriously involved in the KD sweepstakes. 624 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: Maybe they would have if Yannis was actually available, but 625 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like he's going to be and so 626 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: maybe that is what would have actually led to them 627 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: making an all in swing. But for right now, it 628 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: seems like they're sort of happy to patiently slow play it, 629 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, draft Harper second and sort of go like 630 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: into next year. Is hey, we're going to continue to 631 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: figure out like which of these young guys are actually 632 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: good and try and you know, the Thunder honestly just 633 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: made a case for them to be patient and say, 634 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: you know, hey, let's figure out, you know, sort of 635 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: if any of these drafts, how good these draft picks are, 636 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: and then where we actually need veteran help. 637 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: Right man, It's just everything went right for the Thunder, 638 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: like all those players developed like the best case scenario. 639 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't it'll be it'll be interesting to see. 640 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: And like you said, I mean, maybe the Spurs were 641 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: like the people who gave Presty the playbook, since that's 642 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: where he hails from. But I don't know. I would 643 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: have liked to see them get Durant KD to the Rockets. 644 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: What do we think? I feel like the Rockets won 645 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: that trade. I think they're gonna be pretty interesting. It's 646 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on KD to be like a 647 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: bucket down the stretch, but that is like the thing 648 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: that he's maybe the best of all time at Do 649 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: we think the Rockets are a contender right away? 650 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, they were already so good 651 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: on defense last year that this was you know, it's 652 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: rare that you see a team plug their only hole 653 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: in one trade and just like immediately address all the 654 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: concerns about that. And it's just like that was there. 655 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: One thing that they could not do last year was 656 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: you know, they didn't have a go to guy down 657 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: the stretch of games. They could stay in games, but 658 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: teams continually out executed them down the stretch because offense 659 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: generally beats defense in those moments, and because of how 660 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: good offenses in the NBA are and how tough it 661 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: can be to play defense, And so I think KD 662 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: just sort of, you know, solves that problem. You know, 663 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: you're you're not gonna be able to guard him with 664 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: the game on the line, and so as long as 665 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: he can sort of contribute enough and they don't lose 666 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: too much in the Dylan Rooks sort of absence on 667 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 2: defense or you know whatever sort of ephemeral like culture stuff. 668 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: I think they should be probably right into the contention conversation. 669 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: But then they're in the Western Conference, Harrison, and now 670 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: would mean if they're in this. 671 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: I didn't say they're gonna win the title. I think 672 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: they're gonna be in the Yeah. 673 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then but then that means that means the 674 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: Lakers can't be in the finals. 675 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: Well and and I and I can't. 676 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm just much too fragile right now to even handle that. 677 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously seeing them keep like Aman Thompson and shanng. 678 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: Gun and all that, and I'm like, yeah, this is 679 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: trouble for sure. Yeah, how how did the Sons? I'm 680 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: not I'm going to stop asking myself hypothetical questions about 681 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: why the Sons do things? 682 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: If I if I'm a good GM, I'm calling the 683 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: Suns every day. I just want to see what they 684 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: offer me. 685 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: You know, what do you got? 686 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: Can you said anything? What do you got over there? 687 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: What do you have for me yeaheah. They're like they're like, hey, 688 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: well we'll give you Grayson Allen for a second round pick. 689 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: Oh right, sure, man collecting seconds now, we don't nobody 690 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: knows why he thinks he's going for Giannis, but he's 691 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: gonna make the trade before just set you got to 692 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: set yourself up. 693 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: You know, who's the ideal player to match with Luca 694 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: for the next five five years or so? If you 695 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: could choose any player from the. 696 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: League, Oh that's interesting. I mean, if I could choose 697 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: any player, it would be probably Wimby, just because like, yeah, 698 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: he's just such a cheat code on the lobs and 699 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: stuff like that, and like so clearly addresses a lot 700 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 2: of the defensive stuff, and just I think sort of 701 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: gives you a, you know, a version of what the 702 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: Lakers had, honestly in the Lebron ad tandem in the bubble, 703 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: where you have like the big that is incredible defensively, 704 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: still a problem on offense, and then you have the 705 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: incredibly talented wing scorer playmaker guy, and you just sort 706 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: of have to fill in defenders around that, but they 707 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: sort of have the offense taken care of as long 708 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: as you have enough credible shooting around them, and so yeah, 709 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: it would be Wemby. I mean the Lakers were obviously 710 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: not getting him, but if I could choose any player 711 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: in the league, it would be him. 712 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: Okay, of the people in the Mark Walter era that 713 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: we're entering, who do you think is like a realistic 714 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: sort of you know, people are like they'll maybe they'll 715 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: try and get Gafford, Like they're not gonna do that, 716 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: don't be silly, But like, what what do you think 717 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: is realistic in terms of if we're not gonna be 718 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: we'll be a little bit more reckless with the spending perhaps, 719 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: uh enough here with what you know, the financials of 720 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: it all. 721 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think that the way that that's going to 722 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: affect things more is going to be in the Lakers 723 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: like sort of building out their organization, you know that, 724 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: hiring more scouts, hiring pro personnel scouts which they don't have. 725 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't have scouts. 726 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: I was like, what, No, No, no, they have scouts, 727 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: they just didn't have like out scouting the NBA. 728 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean, Like like other teams did. 729 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we're truly like kind of resting on 730 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: our Laurels to be like, you. 731 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, a little bit, uh yeah yeah. 732 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: But when I read that, I was like, come on, baby, 733 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: you can't. 734 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: They're like sort of they were like, you know, Rob 735 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: watches all the Laker games, so he'll see the guys 736 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: when they play against us. I guess, like that's it's fine. Yeah, 737 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: And so you know, they're just gonna have a lot 738 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 2: of re sources like that. You've seen the Dodgers. It's 739 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: not just that they spent on payroll. It's that they 740 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: have like a best in class organization in terms of 741 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: you know, and that's what that guy did there, and 742 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: he sort of slow built that up. He found the 743 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: right gm, he built around him. He you know, like 744 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: fleshed out the front office with as many smart people 745 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 2: that he could hire. And like that's really the area 746 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: where your money can have more impact than on player salaries, 747 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: because especially in this second Apron era, you know, there's 748 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: so many basketball penalties to exceeding that that you're almost 749 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: better off. Like everybody's gonna spend essentially the same amount. 750 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: Very few teams are going to go like ware. I mean, 751 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: some teams may go under the first apron you know, 752 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: but very few teams are going to go over the 753 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: second apron for a long time, and so you almost 754 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: can get more bang for your buck. I think in 755 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: just like trying to build out your other advantages in 756 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: terms of scouting, in terms of getting the best coaches 757 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: possible on not just your main coach, but your assistant coaches, 758 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 2: all of that kind of stuff. 759 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: But Harrison, you're talking about I found it sounds like 760 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: the concept you're talking about things like long term sustainability, stability, bruh. 761 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 1: The question is how am I getting to the finals 762 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: next year? 763 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: You know I need that. 764 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: Let's go. 765 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: Well, so I think the Bucks are really going to 766 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: want the Lakers twenty thirty one first round pick, you 767 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: know you'd think, And so I think that's enough to 768 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: get Giannis. 769 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 3: Twenty thirty one. 770 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a gale. 771 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: I think I want to hear. Yeah, you know that's 772 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: what I want to hear. Thank you, Thank you. Tell 773 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: me about the Rabbits, George. 774 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: I think you know, if you just if you throw 775 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: in Dalton connect yeah, I think it's like back. I 776 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 2: think you'll want to be a bar yeah, to. 777 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: Build around for the future Lakers. Then I think, yeah, 778 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: but no, no no, no, no no no no no no no. 779 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: I think I think side connect No maybe yeah, yeah, 780 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 3: just super producer Jabari is pointing out, like maybe we're 781 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 3: talking pick swap here. 782 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, You're right negotiating against myself if I'm 783 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: going to them, I'm calling up Milwaukee and I'm saying, 784 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: you can have one second round pick swap for Giannis. 785 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. By the end of the day, Lakers, the balls 786 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 3: in your court, sir, yeah, good night. 787 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: Do you want the number one draft pick next year? 788 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Baltimore court hangs. 789 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 3: Up one last thing on the off season, moves Drew 790 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: Holliday going back to the Blazers, Anthony Simon's going to 791 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: the Celtics. Sits so badly with me. 792 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: Such a weird trade, such. 793 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 3: A weird trade that just feel it feels like it's 794 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 3: being written by the Celtics, Like the Celtics just needed 795 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 3: this and so they got it, Like I don't know, 796 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 3: like they got they got the Blazers, Like, here's Drew 797 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: Holliday for the two years where you need him and 798 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 3: can win the championship, and then you give him back 799 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 3: to us for our young prospect who we currently say 800 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: is like completely untouchable. And I know he wasn't like 801 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 3: great last season, but still just feels like, I don't know, man. 802 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 2: They did, like what those the European soccer teams did. 803 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: They sent Drew Holliday to the Celtics on loan, you know, 804 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: and they're getting him back now and yeah. 805 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: You guys done? Are you sure? Okay? 806 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? 807 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just send him back? And do you guys 808 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 3: want Anthony Simons? Maybe? I don't know. 809 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: Joe Cronin saw he's like the last team to show. 810 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: The last two teams to trade for Drew Holiday won 811 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 2: a title the first year. I gotta go get this guy. 812 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 3: That's right? 813 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: What's his contract even worth? Like this, isn't it something 814 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: wacky too? Like he's not he's on He's on big money, 815 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: isn't he. 816 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's thirty to forty million, I think if I'm 817 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: remembering correctly, I mean, yeah, he's. 818 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: From a salary perspective. Again, why the Celtics did it? 819 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 2: Right? 820 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: Right? 821 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: But I'm like, what, Okay, Well, good luck to you 822 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: in Portland, good luck to you all. 823 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 3: Right, let's uh should we take a break and come 824 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 3: back and do the final rapid fire round of questions. 825 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: Oh sure, I guess we have to. Okay, okay, we'll 826 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: be right back. 827 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 3: Man, we're back back one last one, last evil laugh. Why, okay, 828 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 3: I'm fine. I'm fine. 829 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 7: Here's a thing, and you've just made it to the 830 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 7: full quarter of before the questions the christ this podcast 831 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 7: history in the podcast it's on iheard, co produced with 832 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 7: the NBA, co hosted by people named Johns and Jack. 833 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 3: Giles and Mac. 834 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna ask you a question of those words. 835 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: Just it's very important from a legal yeah, from from 836 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 3: legally you have to know. 837 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 2: But we're gonna ask you a question. 838 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: You just respond your chest passed it right back, just 839 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: right back to us. Okay, don't think about it, just answer. 840 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm happy to I know how this works. 841 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: Okay, you are you are, my sweet sweet boosties child, Brian. 842 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 3: If you want to. 843 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: Go first, Jackers, I'd. 844 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 3: Love for you to go first. 845 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 846 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Harrison, we're gonna do this player pairing or that 847 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: player pairing that you would prefer to see where you 848 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: could get with that. 849 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 850 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: I think you should get with this. This is where 851 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 2: it's at the first one. 852 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: Okay, this or that Luca and Yannie or Wenby. 853 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: Wenby and Yannis. 854 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 3: I think, whoa, that would be crazy. Those guys are 855 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: both so tall. 856 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 2: How does that work? I just think, is it not 857 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: rapid fire? But I think, uh, your defense is just 858 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: impossible to score on with. 859 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 3: Those defense is actually also important. 860 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 2: It turns out guys named Harrison love defense and think 861 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 2: of the championships, so you know they do say that. 862 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 3: All right, Luca and Joker where Joker and Wemby. I 863 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 3: feel like, we we know you're Wemby over Luca. Is 864 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 3: that correct? Ah? 865 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: I think I'd go Luca and Joker just because that 866 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 2: would be you know, yeah, yeah, I think I think 867 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: their offense would be so unstoppable that playing that Balkin 868 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 2: ball oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, sign me up. Wemby 869 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 2: Jokic just feels like a weird fit to me. I'm 870 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: not sure, like they they're both great, they'd make it work, 871 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: but it's just like it's a strange fit. 872 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: It feels like somehow they would get in each other's 873 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: way physically. 874 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you can't have that, not at the same 875 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 2: time on the same team. 876 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, get out of my way? What are 877 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 3: you doing? 878 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: Although Wemby would be thrilled. He's like, I don't have 879 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: to guard Yokic anymore. 880 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: I love this Luca and Wemby or Joker and Yannis. 881 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 2: I think we maybe know this Luca and Wemby or 882 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: Joker and Yannis. I would go. I think probably Joker 883 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: and yannism. 884 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I'm just imagining both of those. 885 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 2: I just know. 886 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: Actually I'm going Luca Wenby. 887 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like Giannis, I hasn't shown me enough 888 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: off the ball to be like that. It's like, oh, 889 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: he's immediately going to go sort of run off if 890 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 2: you get like you would want him to. Yeah, I 891 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 2: think I think it's Luca and. 892 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 3: That you will notice that we just go silent when 893 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: you do the wrong the wrong answer and until answer. 894 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 3: I'm not that one, Okay, Luca Shay, You'll just Alexander 895 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: or Luca and Ant And these are being presented by 896 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 3: jabari as just like these are options here because all 897 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 3: of these guys are gonna come home eventually. 898 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 2: I'm going Luca and Ant because I just think Aunt 899 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 2: was born to be a Laker like many great players 900 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 2: from the history of Minnesota, and you know, I think 901 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: he could be the city's latest greatest Minneapolis import. 902 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, absolutely, absolutely, it's just a pipeline something from 903 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 3: there's a there's a long tradition of Minneapolis handing things 904 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 3: to Los Angeles so that they can flourish. 905 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: We just drink their milkshake as it were. Okay, So, Harrison, 906 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: we just talked about the KD trade. Uh And we 907 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,479 Speaker 1: had the Desmond Baine news last week where he said 908 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: I was in a chamber. 909 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 2: Of darkness like Baine. 910 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 3: It was so dark in that windowless facility. 911 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: Can you give us your predictions on where these players 912 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 1: are gonna end up next season? 913 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: And get getting silly with it? That cool? 914 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 3: Well, you had to do that or else it falls apart. 915 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 2: It really falls apart. 916 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 3: It really falls apart, to be honest, To. 917 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: Be honest, Harrison, where's Gianni's going to be next season? 918 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: Okay? And now and now do a silly one? 919 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 2: I just a Toronto? 920 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 3: Wow? Why Toronto? 921 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. It just seems like the type of 922 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 2: thing that they do, like where you know, they swine 923 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 2: on the wildly talented wing that is available to them 924 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: for some reason, for lower than it would be for 925 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 2: other teams, and you know, just go win a title. 926 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: That's what miss I does. 927 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 3: All right, joh and Triple J. Where are they going? 928 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: They're they're both going to the same team. They're getting 929 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 2: sent out in like a sure. No, I think I 930 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: think as good as you are, you can always get better, 931 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: you know, use some some more bench weapons. Yeah, Jos 932 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: six Man of the Year, you know, it's perfect role. 933 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 2: What about Lebron James, I mean really the only answer Actually, 934 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna say. He wants to he 935 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: wants to go rejoin with a d and he's wanted 936 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: to play with Kyrie. Uh, you know, he's just like, yeah, 937 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: it seems like they get things done for their players 938 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: over there as long as they're not Luca. You know, 939 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 2: he wanted a center, he got, he got seven centers, 940 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 2: So you know, Lebron, Lebron's gonna get nine point guards 941 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 2: to take the load off of him until he gets 942 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 2: tired of them and takes over at point guard. 943 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 3: All right. 944 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 2: And finally, Jalen Brown, I would have said the Rockets 945 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: until they made the Katie trade, because that seemed like 946 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 2: it was something that was, you know, maybe gonna happen. Yeah, 947 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: the Hawks, they want to make some noise m hm 948 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: from Atlanta, bringing them home. Yeah, from Atlanta. Yeah, and Harrison, 949 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: all the right answers. 950 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's no. We got to bring it home now, Oh, yeah, 951 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 3: to bring Those were the right answers. But I can't. Oh, 952 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 3: this could be the wrong answer answer in that section. 953 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: Those are all the right answers. 954 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: This next section, this could be a wrong answer, and 955 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: there is a wrong answer one last time, Harrison Fagan 956 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: for everybody in the back. 957 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: Jacker, Miles, Miles, Uh, you know la receptionalism. 958 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 3: Oh, the right answer. 959 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: Look, I do it. I can't. I can't pick some 960 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 2: East Coaster come on. 961 00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 3: Thank you. 962 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 2: I needed that. 963 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: I needed that. 964 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 2: Jack's fine, He's fine, He's gonna be fine. He's gonna 965 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 2: jack about him. Jack, you're my second favorite host, you know. Yeah, 966 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 2: You're means a lot. That's pretty good. 967 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: You know, it's huge top two Miles and Jack, it's okay. 968 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 3: I believe I was three and one hundred and sixty 969 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,959 Speaker 3: eight according to Ryan, So that's that all makes sense 970 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 3: for the hundred and seventy one episodes. 971 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: Or he asked that, Well, we stopped asking for a 972 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: while because it was getting a little silly. 973 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 3: No, So what happened is we we stopped leaving it 974 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 3: in the episode. We we asked every time, and it 975 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: was like whenever they'd say Miles, I'd be like, caught it, Yeah, 976 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: caught it. 977 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: You broke a lot of desks. I remember we did 978 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 2: you seriously used to ask every guest. Yeah, we know 979 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: that's insane. 980 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 3: Oh insanely good, right, good content. 981 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: I feel worse for Jack. I'm sorry. 982 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, no, sorry, it's been a hard road, 983 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:06,280 Speaker 3: you know, and me and taking some solace from Sam Press. 984 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 3: You just keep doing it. Keep wait, the show's ending. 985 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeahs can cut a long run short, as they say, 986 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, and we took no shortcuts. 987 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 2: And this was a long and storied ride. 988 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: So, Harrison Fagan, thank you so much for joining us 989 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: on the final episode of Miles and. 990 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 3: Jack Got Mad Boosties. 991 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 2: Where the where did the people find you? 992 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: Because you continue on to cover the league. 993 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 3: Miles and I disappear at the end of this episode 994 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 3: like obibi just a pile of clothes. 995 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, Jack just went in a force 996 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: go he really just he just disappeared. It's just closed, 997 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 2: just dropped to the ground and he's blue. Yeah, I 998 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 2: uh you know. You can follow me on Twitter at 999 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 2: at h M Fagan. Uh and then obviously all of 1000 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 2: our work over at sp nation dot com. And guys, 1001 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 2: thanks for having me for the last one. It's an 1002 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: it's been an honor. And uh yeah I was. I 1003 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 2: was not excited to get the call because it means 1004 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: the show's ending, but you know, I appreciate the invite. 1005 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: Oh man, well, you can find me everywhere at Miles 1006 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: of Gray if you still if you still want, if 1007 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: you still wish, And. 1008 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 3: Obviously on other show, the Daily Zeitegist that guys still 1009 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 3: going on on that Jack Underscore Obrian on Twitter, Jack 1010 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 3: obi the number one on Blue Sky a reference to 1011 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 3: Obi Wan and my ability to just turn into a 1012 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 3: pile of clothes. 1013 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 2: Yep, oh my god, you came back. 1014 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, there he is there we are. Uh, that's it. 1015 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 2: That's it. 1016 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 3: Don't search hashtag mat boosties for links and updates because 1017 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,439 Speaker 3: it's can be it. But we will be talking NBA 1018 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 3: on uh. 1019 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: Dailey's Eitgeist and of course, yeah, the the chattering still 1020 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 1: goes on again. Thank you to everybody who played a 1021 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: pivotal role in this show. Obviously Jabari Davis, Brian the editor, 1022 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,479 Speaker 1: our two biggest day ones Literal day Ones on this show. 1023 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: This show would not be where it is without your work, 1024 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: your dedication, lending me your basketball intelligence to pretend I'm 1025 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: not just a totally out of my mind Laker fan, 1026 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: and I do know some things about the other teams 1027 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: from time to time. 1028 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 3: So I do owe you a debt of gratitude forever. Jabari. Also, 1029 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 3: just you know, the iHeart family, Sean Peter Race, you know, 1030 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 3: day one and the NBA people, Steven Channing, Meredith, love 1031 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 3: to you all. 1032 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking a chance on two. 1033 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 3: Just Adam is over, Yeah, Silver Adam was a big 1034 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 3: fan Lebron Jamee. Come on. We were like, let's not 1035 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 3: mix business and pleasure at him. But you know, always 1036 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 3: fun and you know these past three years as a 1037 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 3: Sixers fan a lot of times, but I'm looking back 1038 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 3: at that beach and I only see one set of footsteps, yep, 1039 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 3: And I say, Miles, why did you abandon me? You say, Jack, 1040 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 3: it was it was during those seasons that I carried you, 1041 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 3: and so I have to thank you as well. 1042 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 2: Oh man, Well Jack, I'll. 1043 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 3: See you tomorrow anyway, it doesn't matter. 1044 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: Hope listen, but thank you all for listening, and we'll 1045 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: see you soon. 1046 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 3: Later bribe