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Speaker 2: Coming up bottom of the hour, Tiler Dragon.

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Speaker 1: In about thirty minutes, we'll talk to him about some

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Speaker 1: NFL storylines. He is, of course with USA today, looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that. And then again next hour we'll have

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Speaker 1: Mike Pritch Pritchard, former NFL tight end, NFL analyst, he's

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Speaker 1: a CuO alum, and we'll talk some more football with

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Speaker 1: him as well. Looking forward to do that as well.

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Speaker 1: By the way, what's the cow down for the wedding again?

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Speaker 1: Where are we at?

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Speaker 2: Uh? You know, I know the date? What's today's date?

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Speaker 2: Is the bigger? That is actually a great question.

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Speaker 4: August ninth, So today's a twenty eight, so we're about

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Speaker 4: two weeks away.

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Speaker 2: Gave thirty days half September. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but August it's coming up soon. I think I'm

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Speaker 4: two saturdays out, feeling good. I'm ready ready. You want

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Speaker 4: something funny about that?

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 6: I was talking to chrisp we Sard two months ago, Martin,

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Speaker 6: we told you the story rest in Peace by the way,

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Speaker 6: to see b Soupid. He's like, hey, man, you uh

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Speaker 6: you're gonna go to Martin's wedding. I was like, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I don't even know if I'm invited, So I mean

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Speaker 6: I don't know. Oh yeah, well it's you know it's

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Speaker 6: next month, so you ain't invited. But and I didn't

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Speaker 6: take any kind away because I know how expensive way

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Speaker 6: you are. You listen, but I was like, damn Christ,

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Speaker 6: you ain't invite it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't. Me, you ain't. You would have known

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Speaker 2: by now.

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Speaker 6: Now Mar's living in your tax bracket these days. He

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Speaker 6: was telling me that he flew out c B first

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Speaker 4: Did none of the above quite a minute, Rob g

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Speaker 4: had me sold quite literally none of the above. And

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Speaker 4: I told Rob how I'm able to go on this

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Speaker 4: upcoming honeymoon. And I've realized now I don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's good. I don't know if you can handle it. Rob,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If it's the best advice for you to follow.

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Speaker 4: But credit card points can work, wonders if you're responsible

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Speaker 4: on everything else that you do with the credit card,

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Speaker 4: if you know how to manage it, they'll take you

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Speaker 4: all the way around the world.

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Speaker 2: They will.

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Speaker 1: You can use it and take advantage of it. I

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Speaker 1: think that's how we're getting ready to make some moves.

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Speaker 1: We gotta go to Detroit and then obviously I'll be

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we use the points, but points, yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you use it right everything.

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Speaker 1: But then the problem is all you did was do

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Speaker 1: what you just said, be responsible and robbedy. Oh look

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Speaker 1: at y'all using points in here in these streets. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: he's riding around an updgraded cars. But you don't want

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Speaker 4: He's too busy shaming me because I had his seven

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Speaker 2: Fact, you like saving money, you like many fool price.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, he's all going to shout to friends his wife

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Speaker 4: every five years is getting a new ring in these streets.

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Speaker 2: No, it's my fault.

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Speaker 4: Hey, baby, I know it's a fifty year ring, a

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Speaker 4: always talking about us lo key, Alex, I think you

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Speaker 4: need to understand he might you might be alone, Alex.

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Speaker 4: I think rob G is actually with us, he just

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Speaker 6: not going full carry roads on us, because I know

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Speaker 6: he used to you host of that means and it

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Speaker 6: I didn't like you saying like, oh me, my good

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Speaker 6: I was just hanging out of Oprah's house.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. Hey, I'm gonna tell you the truth.

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Speaker 1: Last point, then we'll get to our topic. One thing

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Speaker 1: about having a wife who is you know, I like

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Speaker 1: to think she's pretty, pretty beautiful, but also the brands.

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Speaker 1: She just does well Instagram. I know, so no, he

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Speaker 1: does well. Rob's screenshots to verify what you said he did.

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Speaker 2: He did screenshot it.

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Speaker 1: But one thing about having the beautiful and she's such

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, it somehow always comes back to her.

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Speaker 1: So to to your point, and then I'm move on.

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Speaker 1: Big Gang James Worthy comes in. That's my man. You know,

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Speaker 1: He calls me, kuh, what's up, baby?

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Speaker 2: What's up? I ever think good?

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Speaker 1: And my wife is filming us, so I'm not it's

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Speaker 1: going you know, it's me and Big Gang Willa look

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Speaker 1: cool on the real you know, a big game, and

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Speaker 1: he goes, man, you know what, I know something?

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Speaker 2: I said, what's that big game? He about to pump

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Speaker 2: your boy up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I hurt somebody past the bar and I heard she's

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Speaker 1: got a law degree and look at her doing big things.

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Speaker 1: And she literally like, oh me, all night, Alex, it's

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she's so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I got an actual DM from somebody with the high

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Speaker 1: handsome everything. Yeah, yeah, but basically you all kick your

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Speaker 1: covers with what they're saying. I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: score her, Like, I'm just like wow, Like I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, Like, I mean, you're cool,

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Speaker 1: but like she is, and I'm like, thanks, I think.

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Speaker 6: That's one step above Big Gang Woe. Like, so, I

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Speaker 6: heard your husband's hosting Theammies this weekend. That's great, that's great,

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Speaker 6: that's great, that's.

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Speaker 2: Great, you say, he tried to air.

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Speaker 1: I'm over here and literally the last the best part

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Speaker 1: of video Martin me cause he's been one We've been

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Speaker 1: trying to get together, go golfing. So you literally see

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Speaker 1: me in the video Alex Dual golf swing like yeah,

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Speaker 1: me and big Game golfing, and he really doesn't bring

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Speaker 1: up golf. I'm like and he's like you, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: passed the bar, baby girl, way to go. And I'm

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Speaker 1: just sitting there like big game. So that's the problem

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Speaker 1: when you you know that's about to be your future.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I've my dad told me this a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: With the lowest standing a man can have a woman's life.

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Speaker 4: His husband, Kevin, he almost on his water just now. Well,

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Speaker 4: it was about to be Be and Steve for the

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Speaker 4: rest of the show because Kelvin almost did not make it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get the memo. I didn't know early. Boy,

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Speaker 1: I thought it is it becomes all about her. I'm like, hello,

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Speaker 1: what can become president?

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Speaker 2: They'll be like, boy, what the first lady geta what's

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Speaker 2: the saying? Happy wife, happy life. Ain't nothing for us,

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Speaker 2: happy husband bleven something.

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Speaker 1: I can't come up with that. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: into this. This was this was something I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get into last week Martin. So we haven't really talked

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Speaker 1: one of a touch on which is the more Newsy

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Speaker 1: which happened recently, and that is Rob Manford, Commissioner MLB,

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Speaker 1: has been making his round as he usually does, try

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he and Bryce Harper get

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 1: The reports are Bryce Harper got into his grill and

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Speaker 1: told him he can get the blank out the clubhouse

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Speaker 2: He said I ain't getting a blank nowhere.

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Speaker 1: And then Nick Castellanio Castellonius with Castianos. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: point here, and that is Bryce Harper told them, man,

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Speaker 1: if you're coming in and trying to have conversations about

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Speaker 1: the first conversation that Rob G and I have been

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Speaker 1: talking about having here for we we just couldn't get

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Speaker 1: the commissioner has a cap league cap members. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a group that he calls the commissioners

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Speaker 1: at Ambassador Program CAP And a lot of people think

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Speaker 1: this is a league, this is the Ambassador group comprised

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Speaker 1: of a lot of brothers.

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Speaker 1: Sabathia being the biggest name, but then you also have

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Speaker 1: So the bulk of it, like eighty percent are brothers,

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Speaker 1: which I found interesting just considering baseball is you know,

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Speaker 1: such a low percentage of African American players.

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Speaker 2: I know C. C.

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Speaker 4: And Ryan Howard and Adam Jones are very involved in

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Speaker 4: the All Star League.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, they were at this year's All Star Game. They

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Speaker 2: were at last year's All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: I know that they were at Rickwood Field the Birmingham

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Speaker 4: game because I interviewed them all.

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Speaker 1: So there's a there's a part of where players are

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Speaker 1: current players feel like those players are being used because

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Speaker 1: Kayler Williams when he had a couple of rough starts.

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Speaker 1: You had Ben Johnson head coach there, who had to

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Speaker 1: shut down day one of practice because he didn't like

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Speaker 1: the way they were getting out of huddles and everything.

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Speaker 1: Kick off the first teamers. Let me say that way first,

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Speaker 1: the first teamers had to go sit down and get right.

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Speaker 1: Then the next day he goes was he two for

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Speaker 1: ten and he couldn't get through a couple of interceptions

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Speaker 1: in the red zone and so a lot of speculation

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Speaker 1: coming out of that. And I was saying, then Rob

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Speaker 1: g asked a question, well, you know who's kind of

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Speaker 1: more at as more at stake here? And I said

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Speaker 1: it was Ben Johnson because when you get that guy

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Speaker 1: the number one pick, we've been here all the best prospects.

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Speaker 1: Since Andrew Luck has all the gifts, Look how talented

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Speaker 1: he is. They ain't letting that go. Guy, go you

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Speaker 1: can go. We've seen that when you whether you're a

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Speaker 1: good coach of the year, you can go. You can

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Speaker 1: win a championship, pick the sport and go let alone

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Speaker 1: if you're underperforming what the guy people feel is the future.

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Speaker 1: So to me, Ben Johnson, anytime you have a star player,

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Speaker 1: especially in this case a number one pick and cayleb

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Speaker 1: Williams and Heisman winner, you're the one at stake.

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Speaker 2: You haven't proven anything. You've not been a head coach before.

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Speaker 1: You've been a really really good offensive coordinator for the Lions,

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Speaker 1: but you haven't been a coach. So I think this

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Speaker 1: more on Ben Johnson to figure out a way to

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Speaker 1: maximize his gifts, maximize his talent.

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Speaker 2: But now he's come out and there's a poor area.

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Speaker 1: You have him saying he's not getting the ball on

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Speaker 1: the time, is reading the coverage, he's struggling with that,

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Speaker 1: and which I was kind of blown away that he

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Speaker 1: will say that publicly. I'm like, he keep that with

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Speaker 1: your boy, keep that in house. But Ben Johnson, where

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Speaker 1: are you at with we already talk about Kayleb william

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Speaker 1: He's got to improve, He's got to get better. But

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Speaker 1: what about Ben Johnson, year one head coach.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I think that when Rob g and I were talking

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Speaker 4: this through earlier today, he was surprised that I had

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Speaker 4: this opinion. But I agree that is Ben Johnson if

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Speaker 4: nothing else. I think the two questions that we had

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Speaker 4: about Caleb Williams when he was coming out of college

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Speaker 4: where a lot of that highlight tape is out of structure, right,

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Speaker 4: and then also the second one was off the field,

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Speaker 4: how do we feel about you know, the nail painting,

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Speaker 4: the crying in the side.

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Speaker 2: I want to go home and play.

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Speaker 4: I want to play with my All of that to me,

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Speaker 4: from the moment he became a Chicago Bear, he has

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Speaker 4: said and done the right things in the podium, especially

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Speaker 4: considering that I don't think a single person, a single

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Speaker 4: quarterback I should say, drafted in that class, would have

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Speaker 4: done better than he did. I don't think Jon Daniels's

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Speaker 4: healthy through all those sacks. I think Drake may gets

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Speaker 4: three concussions instead of two through.

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Speaker 2: All those sacks, right.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think bon Knicks has the raw talent

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Speaker 4: to be able to overcome the offensive line struggles and

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Speaker 4: not having Sean Payton be as head coach. I think

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Speaker 4: if you had, I think if any situation that Caleb

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Speaker 4: was in would have been better of the rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: And even talk about Panis, well, Pendis couldn't beat out

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Speaker 4: of thirty sixth Rold with one Achilles all right, right, right,

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Speaker 4: and so that you know, that's a real thing. I

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Speaker 4: get that they gave all that guarantee money, but that's

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Speaker 4: also a real thing. The best guy is gonna play.

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Speaker 4: And so I think that Caleb Williams showed throughout his

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Speaker 4: time that we evaluated him as a college player. He

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Speaker 4: can be great individually among a ton of chaos. I

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Speaker 4: don't think that USC has necessarily acquitted themselves well despite

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Speaker 4: having a great quarterback playing in the position like that

508
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Speaker 4: team was not a world beater, they were not championship contenders,

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Speaker 4: and they had the lockdown number one overall pick for

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Speaker 4: basically two years.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say he went backwards after his

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy year, and so I think you saw out

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Speaker 1: of Caleb last year.

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Speaker 2: I think all things considered, he was good, dude. He

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Speaker 2: was good. I said the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I said, so is it a bounce back year or

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Speaker 1: when we were talking about said is this a bounce

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Speaker 1: back year or a It wasn't really that bad. It

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Speaker 1: was a rookie year and a team that never does

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Speaker 1: well with quarterbacks and what ended up being a really

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Speaker 1: good division. You know, you got the fifteen and two

523
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Speaker 1: Lions and Vikings and the Packers went to the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and ended up being a really good year. And his

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Speaker 1: head coach didn't do him any favors. We lost them

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Speaker 1: up three, four games down the crunch of.

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Speaker 4: Games, and then but was sitting at home by Christmas, right,

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Speaker 4: he exactly got himself fired.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we're on the same page. I

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Speaker 1: expect a nice step from him, but Ben Johnson is

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Speaker 1: going to have to teach him. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: be superman. I know that season he came easy for

533
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Speaker 1: you probably all your life. You don't have to be it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: This is what I find fascinating. I know you're trending

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Speaker 4: out of this. This is what I find fascinating is

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Speaker 4: that locker room last year was lost by a lot

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Speaker 4: of reporting. When Eber flew several times, especially after the Hill.

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Speaker 4: Mary in Washington or the lack of time out in

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Speaker 4: Detroit was just like, Oh, we like the way things looked.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't.

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Speaker 4: I want to know what it's like if the Bear

543
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Speaker 4: start out one in three, two and four and Ben

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Speaker 4: Johnson says it's somebody else's fault.

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Speaker 1: I want to know. I just want to hear what

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Speaker 1: that's just. He doesn't have the equity. I just think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting. He's not at Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: and Andy Ray. I've been here for so long. I

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Speaker 1: clolling guys.

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Speaker 4: Off the field day one a training camp, like you,

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Speaker 4: you better be accountable yourself if you're going to hold

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Speaker 4: us to this level of accountability.

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Speaker 1: Great point, Tyler Dragon on the Way USA Today NFL Report.

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Speaker 1: We probably ask him that if we want to.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: listen live.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Steve, It is the Eye couple,

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Speaker 1: kelvin Washington. We got Martin Weiss and for Rob on

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Speaker 1: this Magic City Monday. And by the way, if you

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Speaker 1: got ak knees, you got a stiff back. Joints not cooperating.

563
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Speaker 1: Some days your body's just like no, this ain't it.

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Speaker 1: On those days, luckily there's a leave and which just

565
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Speaker 1: one pill of lead provides up to twelve hours of

566
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Speaker 1: paying relief, so you can keep moving. Use as directed.

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Speaker 1: A lead might be something this man has to use.

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Speaker 1: Now he's got a toddler running around. Tyler Dragon, our

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Speaker 1: guests USA Today National NFL Reporter, make sure you follow

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Speaker 1: on the Tyler Dragon on X.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Tyler?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got aky knees in the stiff back, so

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Speaker 7: I might need some of that so I can keep

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Speaker 7: on playing basketball and football my free time.

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Speaker 1: You got to relax with all that playing full basketball

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Speaker 1: football at our age. Man, Now you're a daddy too

577
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Speaker 1: out here man wearing you down. Well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Man. We want to start here.

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Speaker 1: We know you're covering this story, so we'll started with

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Speaker 1: this breaking news that there was a shooting. Two folks

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Speaker 1: were shot after a shooting breaks out and the killer

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Speaker 1: is now shooter has killed himself. Give us more as

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Speaker 1: near the NFL headquarters in New York. It's not them,

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Speaker 1: but it is near them. Give us more details on that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really a scary situation and details are still

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Speaker 7: coming out, but there was a shooting outside the NFL

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Speaker 7: headquarters at three forty five Park Avenue in Midtown Manhattan,

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Speaker 7: and the shooter actually went inside the building where the

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Speaker 7: NFL headquarters is based, and there's also other businesses in

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Speaker 7: that building as well, and went all the way up

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Speaker 7: to the thirty third floor and ended up shooting himself.

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Speaker 7: So the New York Police Department did report that the

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Speaker 7: shooter has been neutralized and the building has been contained.

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Speaker 7: But unfortunately, it looks like a police officer based off

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Speaker 7: preliminary reports that I've been gathering, a police officer is dead,

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Speaker 7: and unfortunately two other civilians have been shot. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: very scary and unfortunate situation in midtown Manhattan.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, our thoughts and prayers to everybody dealing with that situation.

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Speaker 4: Of course, those lost their lives and obviously a very

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Speaker 4: scary day of work. Martin Wise and for Rob Parker

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Speaker 4: joined her with Tyler Dragon on the odd couple.

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Speaker 2: With Calvin Washington.

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Speaker 4: There's no easy way to transition from that, but I'm

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Speaker 4: going to go ahead and do it anyway. There's another

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Speaker 4: situation with seeming conflicting reports. And I'm not trying to

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Speaker 4: have you telling tales out of school, Tyler, but what

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Speaker 4: the hell is going on with Christian Wilkins Man.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a crazy transition. But yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 7: have heard from the NFL and even the Las Vegas

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Speaker 7: Raiders that he kissed or attempted to kiss a teammate

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Speaker 7: in the locker room and the teammate did not like it, obviously,

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Speaker 7: And I mean, and that just that was just one

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Speaker 7: of the things that you know, just played into why

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Speaker 7: the Las Vegas Raiders were just tired of him and

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Speaker 7: ready to move on from Ultimately, though, the biggest reason

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Speaker 7: is because there was just some disagreement towards whether he

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Speaker 7: should get surgery or not. Wilkins did not want to

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Speaker 7: get surgery, but the Raiders thought that it is in

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Speaker 7: his best course of action to get surgery where he

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Speaker 7: can get on the field sooner rather than later, and

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Speaker 7: he disagreed. So that's why the Raiders ended up releasing

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Speaker 7: him despite all the guaranteed money that they owe him,

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Speaker 7: and I hear it's probably going to end up going

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Speaker 7: to court because the Raiders want avoid part of his contract,

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Speaker 7: and obviously Wilkins is not in favor of that at all.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you could imagine.

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Speaker 1: And this is a conversation that Martin and I are

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Speaker 1: going to have, depending on time with once we get

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Speaker 1: done with you about the NFLPA. We just had a

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Speaker 1: conversation about just the MLB, but we talked about the

632
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Speaker 1: NFL all the time. You got your leader out here

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Speaker 1: in the strip clubs and then tied into stuff and

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Speaker 1: at City Monday, Magic City Monday. Literally for him, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, and not telling the players about collusion for

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Speaker 1: six months and just is this just par for the

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Speaker 1: course with NFLPA will help them solve this problem?

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Speaker 2: You're in the know. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Why can't they have a better PA and be feeling

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Speaker 1: as if they're advocating for them?

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Speaker 2: What's the issue there?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, when you look at the past, aheads

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Speaker 7: of the NFLP means the more smith Yet he was

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Speaker 7: not perfect, but he was a lot better right last situation.

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Speaker 7: So really they have to really look themselves in the

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Speaker 7: merit and have an extensive and exhaustive vetting process to

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Speaker 7: hire their next chief because this does not look good

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Speaker 7: on the NFLPA, does not look good on the staff

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Speaker 7: of the players commission who who who you know elects

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Speaker 7: the nfl p a head because I mean when you have,

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Speaker 7: like you said, the collusion, the guy using nfl PA

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Speaker 7: money to go to Magic City, talking about this, I

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Speaker 7: mean for both game building, gathering, team building, it's it's

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Speaker 7: just crazy. And so yeah, it's really a black guy

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Speaker 7: on the NFLPA and the players on that you know,

656
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Speaker 7: the staff. But you would hope that this is a

657
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Speaker 7: learning situation for all involved in the next person who

658
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 7: they hire, they really vet them thoroughly before they make

659
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Speaker 7: a decision.

660
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Speaker 4: Or you know, Tyler, you know, vet them at all publicly,

661
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: could be it would be a nice change from uh

662
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Speaker 4: from that now, uh, let me ask you about this

663
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Speaker 4: because Michael Parson is still not paid by Jerry.

664
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Speaker 2: But we've seen this movie before.

665
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Speaker 4: Oh yes, about the trilogy right exactly as you know,

666
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: Summer Blockbuster coming to a theater near you. Michaeh gets

667
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: this thing done by you know, right before week one

668
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Speaker 4: the training are week one of the season, more than likely.

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Speaker 4: But the difference between this is what makes me think

670
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Speaker 4: that it makes it feel like it's different than me

671
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: to me because Jerry is notably antagonistic. I think is

672
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Speaker 4: the best coloring of the way he's carrying this talking

673
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 4: about I didn't hear them chanting. They chanted Ceedee Lamb louder,

674
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Speaker 4: and it made me remember that Cedee Lamb actually held out. Well, Mike,

675
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: is there with the new first year head coach that

676
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Speaker 4: you just hired from walking down the hallway on the

677
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Speaker 4: way to the bathroom. Brian Schottenheimer like, is this gonna

678
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Speaker 4: have the same ending as all these other contract negotiations

679
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Speaker 4: or is there anything different about this one?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's funny you ask, because I literally just wrote

681
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Speaker 7: a story about this very topic yesterday, and what I'm

682
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Speaker 7: hearing from sources is all expectation is that Michael Arts

683
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Speaker 7: is going to get a deal before the start of

684
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Speaker 7: the regular season. And when you look at it, this

685
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 7: is basically Jerry Jones's playbook last year. When you look

686
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Speaker 7: at Dak Prescott, he got paid the start of the

687
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Speaker 7: regular season in week one. When you look at Ceedee Lamb,

688
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Speaker 7: he got paid in late August. Jerry Jones likes to

689
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Speaker 7: play these things out, and to me, it's all part

690
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Speaker 7: of keeping the Cowboys in the headlines, keeping them in

691
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Speaker 7: the news cycle. Because we're talking about it right now,

692
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Speaker 7: we're going to be talking about it until Michael Parsons

693
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Speaker 7: gets paid, and when he gets paid, we're going to

694
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Speaker 7: talk about it some more because he's going to be

695
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Speaker 7: the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history. When it's

696
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 7: all said and done. We all believe it's going to happen.

697
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Speaker 7: It's just a matter of when it's going to happen.

698
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 7: It's not a matter of if. But it keeps the

699
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Speaker 7: Cowboys in the news cycle. And that's exactly what Jerry

700
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Speaker 7: Jones wants because that's a reason why the Cowboys have

701
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Speaker 7: valued over ten billion dollars, the richest franchise in the world.

702
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: True, they might be more than that.

703
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Speaker 4: If the Lakers got Tim Bill right, Cowboys might get

704
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Speaker 4: about fourteen on them.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Tyler, we let you go. Man, appreciate

706
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Speaker 1: go and see you in Cleveland next week.

707
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Speaker 7: Of course you don't see me there. Am I gonna

708
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Speaker 7: see you guys there?

709
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well one of me. I will be there, you

710
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Speaker 2: guys hold it down for me. I'll see you next year.

711
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting married. Yeah, so congrats to him in advance.

712
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Speaker 1: But I'll see you down there. Man Journalist.

713
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Speaker 4: NABJ National Association Black Journalist Conference.

714
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Speaker 2: So we'll be there. Appreciate you as always, brother, Thank

715
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Speaker 2: you so much.

716
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Speaker 1: All right, on the way, let's continue that conversation about

717
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Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, because this gets weird and we got to

718
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Speaker 1: break down a level of weirdness that's happening.

719
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Speaker 2: We'll do that.

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Speaker 1: It is Martin and for Robbers, the our couple in

721
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Speaker 1: Washington on the Magic City Monday, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

723
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724
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725
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Speaker 3: listen live.

726
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Speaker 1: Uh, you keep trying to sneaky little a cone here, Alex.

727
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Speaker 1: You think your slip, Thank you slip Fox Sports Radio.

728
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: It'ston Couple, Kevin Washington, Martin White on a Magic City Monday.

729
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: Rob is out, he'll be back Wednesday.

730
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Speaker 1: Been gone by a week or so and joining himself

731
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Speaker 1: a little triple of VAK time throughout the summer. Thank

732
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Speaker 1: you to Tyler Dragon who just joined us not too

733
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: long ago. By the way, again, if you get a chance,

734
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Speaker 1: go check out the podcast. Rob g Rsch works hard

735
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: on that and getting that up, and you can also

736
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Speaker 1: check us out on YouTube as well.

737
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Speaker 2: And we keep telling you've been working out this summer.

738
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Speaker 1: You're trying to get your dad by gone, or get

739
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: you or get ready for a wedding or any of

740
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: that good stuff. Ache and e stiff back joints not cooperating.

741
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: Some days your body is like no, no, no. And

742
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Speaker 1: on those days, thankfully there's a leave. All you gotta

743
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: do is just take the one pill. The lead provides

744
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: up to twelve hours of pain relief so you can

745
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Speaker 1: keep moving.

746
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Speaker 2: Use as directed. All right, Rob g help us out here.

747
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Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, we just talked about a little bit with

748
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Speaker 1: Tyler Dragon and this this is a weird situation because

749
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Speaker 1: you just that was you just showed me that picture

750
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Speaker 1: of him, right, Martin, Yes, I don't know if he's

751
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Speaker 1: making a habit of trying to kiss people on the

752
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: forehead when you frame it like that.

753
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Speaker 4: I showed you a picture from Getty Images that I

754
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Speaker 4: saw circulating online of Christian Wilkins hugging like side hugging

755
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: Hunter Renfro and the picture by itself, you raised no

756
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Speaker 4: question with the story from Schefter Today it looks a

757
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Speaker 4: little different.

758
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Speaker 2: That's why it's going viral. But you can't just be like,

759
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Speaker 2: was you the one that showed me the picture.

760
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: No, we were about to get to the context of

761
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Speaker 1: while again and you just you laid it out well

762
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Speaker 1: that it's like, dude, teammates played the college ball together

763
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Speaker 1: this day with that boy hot. Nothing to it but

764
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Speaker 1: the line of habitual line stepper, habitual forehead kisser. I

765
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Speaker 1: don't know. Can you just the latest with Christian Wilkins.

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Speaker 6: Make me kind of summarize this competent in the story anyways.

767
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 6: Christian Wilkins, former Las Vegas Raider big time freeing acquisition

768
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 6: last offseason, was released basically last week yep. And they're

769
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Speaker 6: trying to avoid out the rest of his contract. According

770
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 6: to ESPN, they're trying to collect or not to pay

771
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Speaker 6: out the remaining thirty five million dollars guaranteed fully guarantee

772
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Speaker 6: that they owe him. So that says a lot about

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Speaker 6: how they feel about him now. The company line on

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Speaker 6: Thursday was he's not attacking his rehab the way we

775
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 6: want him to. He's been dealing with his Jones fracture

776
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 6: for far too long. We don't think he's taking it seriously,

777
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Speaker 6: so that's why we're gonna wave him. Then we find

778
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: out today, well, actually no, we found out yesterday from

779
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Speaker 6: Josina Anderson and a couple other reporters that there was

780
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Speaker 6: more to the story, that there was something else that happened,

781
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Speaker 6: an incident took place in the locker room. We have

782
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Speaker 6: an idea of what happened, but we're not gonna say

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Speaker 6: what happened because it just seems kind of weird. Well,

784
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Speaker 6: today Adam Schefter went on Pat McAfee show and he

785
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Speaker 6: gave some context to the story.

786
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Speaker 2: His version of events is.

787
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Speaker 6: That Christian Wilkins kissed a fellow teammate on the head

788
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Speaker 6: and the teammate didn't like it to a point where

789
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Speaker 6: it was escalated up to hr and Pete Carroll got

790
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Speaker 6: involved and they said, all right, that's the last straw.

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Speaker 2: We're done with this guy.

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Speaker 6: The only problem is Dub Martin. As you know if

793
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 6: you've been on the internets, several reputable reporters saying that

794
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 6: may have happened, but that is not the reason why

795
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Speaker 6: that there's other incidences that have taken place that they

796
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Speaker 6: will not say that.

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Speaker 4: Even Tyler just a minute ago, Yeah, this is one

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Speaker 4: of the And it's like, so you never get around

799
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Speaker 4: to getting the answer of is how much is the

800
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Speaker 4: foot fracture. I wanted to ask if I want to

801
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Speaker 4: put him on the spot, because nobody's put it out yet.

802
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Speaker 2: But okay, let's say he did get that surgery. Is

803
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Speaker 2: he a raider today? Yes? Or no? That's what I

804
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 2: want to know he might be.

805
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: How big of an issue was well, I'm gonna say this.

806
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: Only reason why I say maybe not is because for

807
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: others just keep saying there's other stuff.

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Speaker 2: To me, this sounds like.

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Speaker 1: Possibly we're all speculating aga in this, but maybe this

810
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: is the one we'll feel comfortable reporting and that's what

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Speaker 1: it feels like. And if that's the case, then that

812
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: can be a little damning, even more so than you're

813
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: just good with and that's what you know. Your your

814
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: foot's good, in your health, then you're ready to roll

815
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: because it's sad and crazy as it's about the sound

816
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: and it sounds horrible, But you guys have been covering

817
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: sports long enough to know what I mean. If he

818
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: were doing some weird things that other people, they might

819
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: keep it rolling. We've seen that people throwing their girlfriends

820
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: on guns. We've heard of domestic violence issues. We heard

821
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: of this, that and the other, and they can wait

822
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Speaker 1: and wait and wait and wait until they're finally forced

823
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Speaker 1: to do something disciplinary wise. But if it was his

824
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: teammates and it was saying, be some weird stuff that

825
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: you can't because you'll have a broken and fractured locker

826
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Speaker 1: room and that I can't have. And I think especially

827
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Speaker 1: p Caero first, first year, now new team trying to

828
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Speaker 1: build this on pe Caro, I'm eighty eight years old.

829
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Speaker 2: I got time to be waiting.

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Speaker 1: So I think that plays a role too in that

831
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Speaker 1: even if he was healthy, if it's some weird the

832
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: shenanigans going on, that the whole team is gonna like,

833
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: hey man, we ain't feeling this. They're not the whole team,

834
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Speaker 1: that's exactly, but you know some players, then I think

835
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: that makes the issue more so than if it were

836
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Speaker 1: someone outside of the locker room, which is sad, but

837
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Speaker 1: that because we've seen that play out many times.

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Speaker 4: And I'll add this, I think that my number one

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Speaker 4: takeaway from this story today because today it's a lot

840
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Speaker 4: of he said, he said, as I heard Chefter say

841
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Speaker 4: on Sports Center earlier today.

842
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: But it's also he said, he said.

843
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Speaker 4: In terms of reporting and all of this, a lot

844
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Speaker 4: of a lot of people being like ooh, the reals

845
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: news is crazy.

846
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Speaker 2: But nobody might say saying what the real news is.

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Speaker 4: One thing I do definitely know for about thirty five

848
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 4: million reasons, Christian Wilkins could really benefit from a strong

849
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: players union right now. And that's what he does not have,

850
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 4: Like that's what he has. That's why Bryce Harper is

851
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: telling Rob Manford the FU. That's why WNBA players are

852
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 4: wearing shirts that say pay it's what you owe. Because

853
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: Christian Wilkins could really use strong player representation at this

854
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: moment because it seems like that not a lot of

855
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Speaker 4: people on his side.

856
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: And nobody is kind of giving up his point of

857
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: view one way or the other. At least he you know,

858
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: whatever we find out happens. But he's supposed to at

859
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: least to have his say in all of this and

860
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Speaker 1: doesn't have it.

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Speaker 2: So there you have it. At f LPA,