WEBVTT - #469 - Jackson Dean on His House Burning Down at 13 Years Old 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:08.440 You know, when I get off the road, it's kind 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:10.480 of just like, hey, don't die, so you can come 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:12.760 back here in a couple of days and do this again. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:19.760 Episode four sixty nine. Nice Jackson Dene. What I did 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:21.640 not mention in this interview because I'm sure he gets 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.600 it every single interview he does, although I don't really 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.439 does a lot of interviews. Do you know what I'm gonna say? 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.200 His high school viral thing. Yeah, he went viral because 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.280 he played football. He's a big dude, is his athletic dude. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:34.960 But he also played in the band, and he was 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.080 playing in the band at halftime in his football uniform. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.080 And that's what that was a viral thing way back 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:40.760 in the day, which I didn't bring up because I 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.080 think we've talked about it on the show and I'm 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.919 sure he gets it everywhere. Yeah, and I'm sure he's 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.000 also like, hey, you know, I'm kind of over talking 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.080 about that, but I didn't want to mention it here. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.400 The other thing that I did not bring up was 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.360 when he was in high school. We didn't know this, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.600 but he dm the show. Oh yeah, yeah, going, Hey, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.800 I'm a huge fan of the show. I'm doing music, 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.560 you know, I don't know, am I any good? That 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.039 type thing. We didn't know that until way later when 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:06.760 he had his first hit and he was in and 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.319 then we like tagged him on something because he was 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.560 a guest on the show, and then we saw the 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.320 message from years before and we're like, holy crap, that's crazy. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.000 Jackson Dean. I Don't Come Looking was his number one 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.440 song that's already been out on the back of My 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.240 Dreams is the name of the new album that just 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.400 came out on September sixth Luke Dick, who's been a 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.720 guest here, and Luke Dick's hilarious and is also a 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.160 great producer and writer. He produced it. Jackson is a 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.280 writer on every single song. Jackson's out with Landy Wilson, 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.760 He's doing dates with Miranda. I mean, he's really doing 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.880 his own thing. Though he rotated the entire globe in March. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:46.520 He's a guy who, it's a cliche statement, walks by 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.640 the beat of a different drum in a way that 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.600 I can really appreciate because he just does his own thing. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:53.520 I think that's also what makes him a great artist. 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.960 So he's twenty three years old, although you would think 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.440 he could be one hundred and twenty three based on 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.240 the maturity that he gives in demands back. Yeah, I 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.040 forgot that too. Even talking about like a story's like 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:06.440 on the road, I'm like, oh, he's probably been doing 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.600 this for like fifteen years. He's twenty three, which is crazy. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.000 He's the youngest four kids. The album Green Broke came 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.760 out in twenty twenty two. That was his first album. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.480 And I don't know, let's just do it. Jackson Dean 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.160 here he is, follow him at the Jackson Dean on 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.840 Instagram and Jacksondan music dot com. Enjoy a right, Jackson, 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.200 Good to see you, buddy. Did you get a haircut? 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:28.639 No, it's in the top knote. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.600 Okay, of course it is, of course in the top knot. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:32.240 Uh. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:33.960 Yeah, you came in. I was like, dang, cut all 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:34.519 his hair off. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.359 Oh no, I've thought about it seriously for a few 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.400 months now, but I can't bring myself to do it. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.280 Oh you're in that phase where you're constantly questioning should 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:43.120 I cut off my hair? 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.960 Well, it gets into that awkward phase and it starts 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.400 bumping over your collar and then it just starts looking weird. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:51.720 Yeah. I don't have that face. I'm like cool enough 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.640 to pull off the the long here. No, no, definitely 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.840 not the long hair. My face is always should I 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.280 get contacts again? But I hate wearing stuff in my 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.640 eyes and have one eye that works, so then I 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.200 wear one in one eye and then I feel like 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:04.839 I'm lopsided the whole freaking time. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:05.640 Symmetrical. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.760 Yeah, so I won't get contacts and you won't cut 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.560 your hair blood packed right here. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.800 I gave them to the first of the year, so 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:12.560 I'll do it. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.400 To the first deal first of the year. I'll commit 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:14.880 to that too. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:15.520 Uh. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.520 How's life, man? I haven't seen you in a little bit. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.239 Yeah, man, what was the last time. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.519 I've been nine months or so. 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:22.359 That's pretty right. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.360 When was that? I feel like the opery that when 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.280 I see you, it's always like yeah, boom boom boom, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:28.720 Like you don't evenally get to talk. It's always like 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.560 totally JAS will tell Buddy good to see you. Okay, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.320 I gotta go do my thing. You go do your thing. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.400 Isn't it cool that you get to do the opry though? 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.400 It's awesome, like you just get to do the opry. Yeah, 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.920 it's they're like, so when can you come back? Yeah, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.280 like okay, like compared to the first time that you 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.160 were invited, I know, for me, like the third time 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.520 I played it, it was like, oh, this is this 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.080 is really fun because the first time, and I'd like 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.760 to hear your experience the first time, at least for me, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.160 it was a big, holy crap night and there are 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.120 people there that I care and it's a big to 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.080 do for me to go on for twelve minutes when 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.920 I normally if I'm touring doing stand up, I'm doing 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.480 an hour show. But this is like everybody's there. You 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.520 got a parking spot, they got a they made a cake, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.400 somebody made a cake. I don't know the cake came from. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.360 And it's like here we and then the lights and 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.159 I can't even really see the people because I'm nervous. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:19.680 And you get off and you're like, how was it 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.719 And it doesn't matter. It's like you did awesome and 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.400 I'm like, did I really? So all of that's one, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.600 two and then three is where you just get to 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.919 get in your groove and be like, oh, this is 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:33.280 just cool. So what was your first Opry experience like? 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.520 And then now what's it like? Because I'm betting it's 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:36.320 a little bit different now. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.200 The first time, man was a lot of pressure, as 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.320 you can imagine. You know, I had touched that circle 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:47.120 and one time before I was about fifteen, we flew 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.080 down just to see what it was all about and whatnot. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.120 And so getting knowing that I was stepping in that 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:57.400 circle holding to the deal that I made myself, the 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.680 deal that I made with myself then that I wouldn't 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.520 step back in that circle without a guitar was pretty 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:07.320 heavy for me. And I took a minute to one 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.159 last look at it before I did, Like, I didn't 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.000 sound check in it or nothing. Really, I made sure 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.200 that I didn't touch it. Yeah, you know, it's a 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:18.000 big thing for me, and they really do make it. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.840 They really do great job making fun. All the doors 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.040 are open into the green rooms. You know, you can 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.960 hear music throughout the entire place, you know, and it's 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.360 really a lovely room to sing in. It really is, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.760 like they do such a great job. You just see 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.599 the silhouettes and it goes all the way to the ceiling. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.799 You know, it's it's really is magic. But I feel 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.840 what you're saying though, like you get you get three 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.080 songs quick and we're out here doing, you know, for 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.320 five hours, hour and a half and like coming down 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:54.800 after that is is always tough, you know. I love 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.160 being in the Porta Wagoner room. And like the last 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.799 time a couple weeks ago at the Opry, mom came, 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.480 I flew down with a couple of girlfriends. I mean, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.039 we had twenty five people in Porter's room, you know, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:11.800 and it's always such a great time. But it's like, okay, everybody, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.920 we're at the Opry and this is like high stakes here. Yeah. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.560 It just it's almost too It's like it gets in 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.440 the best way. It starts to be normal because they 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.120 treat you like you're just part of. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.839 The group when you they remember you when you come back, Yeah, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.640 they really do. And and playing with the playing with 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.279 the Opery band, man, it's always it's such a different 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.039 animal and it's so awesome to get to to get 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.320 to do that with them because they one thing I've 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.640 noticed is that they've taken my songs and not only 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.800 put a saddle on them, but they've choked up on 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:45.599 the reins on them a good bit. And it just 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.480 it's a different feeling you get with the Opry Band 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.599 that's like really great and they're all top of the 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:57.280 top players, you know, but they they really have taken 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.600 a few of mine. I mean a few times that 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.120 we've been there, you know, and just giving it a 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.280 different feel from what I do with my boys. You know, 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.520 what I do with my man is all adrenaline and 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:13.560 control chaos, you know. Them, it's just like we're gonna 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.680 sit right here and do this, yeah, I think. And 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.200 it's just they remember you when you come back, dude, 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:21.320 everybody in that building. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.440 Yeah, you know. It's in this been last Opry story 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.280 that I'll share. But I think at this point, I've 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.520 probably played it about fifteen or sixteen times, and I've 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.520 done I've hosted it or the TV show thirty, so 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.080 I've spent a good amount of time there. And my 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.680 stepdad was coming into town and he had never been 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.480 to the Opry and he was coming early and I 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.400 wasn't playing that night, but he was coming kind of 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.240 last minute, and I was like, Hey, my step dad's 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.680 coming into town. Is there any way I can take him 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.120 and show him around? And they're like, I swear to God, 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.040 They're like, yeah, we'll leave the doors unlocked, just going 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.200 up and lock the doors whenever you're gone. To the 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.240 whole opry. They left, They left the doors unlocked to 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:58.720 the whole operay, and they we're like, just have at it. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.800 Just when you're done. Just locked the door. Like it 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.080 was like my aunt's house and she's like, hey, just 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.720 lock up when you're done. And I was like, man, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.200 that is a lot of trust. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:08.440 There's a lot of trust. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.360 You got the keys to the office, dude, I didn't 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:11.800 even need the key that you can leave it unlocked 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.640 for anybody. You've been on the road a bunch. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.640 A good bit, man. We we get We did get 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.440 to take about uh. I gave the boys about a 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.760 month and the month and a week off. I had 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.360 some shows in there, but but we've been we've been 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.560 touring a lot, and it was weird coming back to 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.480 it after that long of a break. It's just like 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.760 you do something three or four times a week every 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.520 week for the last two and a half three years, 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.079 that you stop for thirty days. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.160 Oh yeah, you get rust development. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.280 It was it was so weird coming back. We were 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.280 all like, ohh God, but no, we got a truck. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.960 We've had a Since then, we've been on the road 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.360 every weekend and we're not really stopping until December. We 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:56.920 got Miss Laney Wilson coming up. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:58.000 Yeah, that's cool. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:03.840 We got that the twenty last week August. That starts 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.320 and then it runs all the way to November. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.680 What are your weeks like when you're home for four 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.520 days before you head back out? Like, what are you 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:11.600 doing in those four days in town? 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.520 If I get four, that's lucky. But most of the 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.839 time I'm trying to trying to still make a name 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.600 for myself and you know, interviews working here in town. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.280 I finally bought a place out of town and a 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.400 little cabin in the woods, and really I like to 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.360 spend my time up there when I can, Like I'll 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.680 get off the bus and go straight there. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:36.960 We have bus call kind of nearish that area. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.920 No bus calls back here in town. It is. I 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.040 actually park in my PMS place and just it's right 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:43.880 right close there. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.439 But are you writing much in town when you're here 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.360 in those days or do you do you write on 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.920 a schedule meaning you're gonna write these or do you 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.320 write it anytime it comes over you? 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.360 Anytime we can make it happen. Man. But you know, 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.240 I moved down here in twenty twenty in the middle 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.760 of the pandemic, and I had our he'd been writing. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.240 I'd already had two records up by then. Then I 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.880 put out by myself, who are not what we are now? 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.800 You know? But my catalog was sick. It's so big. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.720 I mean when I got down here, I was doing 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.080 nothing but two days, you know, when I got with Luke, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:20.839 and so there is songs in the bank. You know, 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.640 I write a lot with my boys on the road. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.400 You know, we were just on the bus last last 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.880 week making demos in the back. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.160 Bus riding. Man, well, bus riding sucks, but bus writing 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.160 that's tough because you got you gotta be feeling like 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:37.839 up to it. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.960 Yeah, it is by the tickey, you take the ride 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.440 for sure. On this record that we're getting ready to 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.520 put out here, I mean half of those songs came 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.720 from a bus trip and that was Luke and Ryan, Luke, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:57.400 Dick and Ryan and me in the back of the 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.200 bus for like two weeks. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.400 Just keep it in the bus or do you record it? 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.240 Yeah, you know, we got a rig on the bus 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:07.679 and my drummer Sean mercer. I mean he and I 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.559 are coming up right on a decade together and he's 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:16.640 a producer and engineer in Baltimore, So for pretty much 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.320 first two records that I did with him and my 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.120 boys and whatnot. So he he understands that kind of Yeah, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.000 he's an engineer. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.080 Sure, and you can do it on the road. Oh yeah, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:27.720 very easily. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:32.840 I mean we'll listen back to sets. Oh yeah, we 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.559 are full on dissecting, Like you need to be doing 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:36.120 this here. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.400 I can't listen to a show I've done. Take your 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.679 medico or radio show. I want to vomit, Like I 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.320 don't want the medicine yet I probably need the medicine. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.199 What are you listening for? If you're listening, let's say 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:48.520 a show you listen to a show back, what are 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:49.040 you listening for? 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:55.199 Flaws? And there's certain you know, we don't every night 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.839 is different to some aspect. Every single song is have 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.640 some different feel to it because there's no click, there's 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.480 no tracks, there's no nothing. It's just us up there, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.360 you know. And sometimes you'll catch a vibe where you 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:13.240 need to you really need to run down that that 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.079 feeling of what that feeling of the song that you're 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:17.560 looking for. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.280 So will you find what went right though? To if 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.600 it's different, like let's say you're listening to a song 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.880 and you say you're looking for flaws, and again, you're 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.880 not playing to a click, so it's never going to 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.960 be exactly right on. But if you hear something that's 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.280 kind of special, will you also chase that down absolutely? 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:38.120 That leads to the betterment of evolution of songs. Wings 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.400 was a great off of Greenbroke was a great example 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.319 of that. You know, Wings went from of three minute, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.920 forty second song to like you're looking at five fifty 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.160 six minutes at the end of it on the live record, 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.600 you know, and that's all due to composure. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.640 You know, what do you mean, Like, what did you 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.400 hear that made you want to change the way you 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:00.440 were picturing that song? 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.200 It's honestly just vibing with the dudes on stage. You know. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.240 In the beginning of US, we were really trying hard 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.600 to sound like Explosions in the Sky. You know. I 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:18.720 love that big cinematic band sound, epic guitars great, great, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:25.080 just great playing. But when you especially, i mean you 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.960 get sound checks and whatnot, you go off on a 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.200 tangent and you're like, oh, we need to do something 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:29.560 like that. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:30.880 Will you listen to sound checks too? 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.480 Not so much. We're about to start taking uh stuff 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.400 for Sewan from sound checks and putting it into mobile 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.400 rig and whatnot and building ming that stuff. But a 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.840 lot of ideas come from soundcheck though, of a lot 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.200 of ideas of composure, like it's just vibes that we 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.480 fall into and we can we can make it last 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:51.800 for a while. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.160 You Brandon just has to You can jam ban it 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.320 if you need to. You can go to fish real quick, 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.800 big jam band vibes. Yeah, do you have to sometimes 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.600 keep yourself from jam band because you're feeling it so much? 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.600 Yeah? Man, And I'm I am always for the song 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:10.560 being longer, Like, let let the music say all that 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.480 you could not. That's what the music's supposed to be, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.120 is all that the spoken word cannot. So of course 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.560 I want more. I want the best playing for what 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.440 the song calls for as possible. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.720 Can you give visual cues to your guys at this 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.120 point because you've been together so long and they know, yeah, 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:27.120 let's just keep going. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:33.320 Yeah, I mean, if somebody stumbles, like Shawn missus a 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.480 phil but she's I think last year he broke like 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.960 four sticks. So you break a stick in the middle 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.880 of something and you're like everybody turns around. It's like, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:46.440 oh god, you know, but that's that's communication between your men. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.920 That's worth it's worth something that everybody's is on their toes, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.760 you know, Because I think I would go full Dave Matthews. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.000 I'd just be feeling it. Hour later. We done three songs, 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.480 you know, just one of those nights where you're just 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.600 then the crowd would be like, dude, you play three 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.560 freaking songs. Yeah, my bad, we're really feeling that second 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.240 song that we did. I don't really have the ability 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.800 to do that, but I feel like I would get 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.280 into that, like if it was feeling good, I would 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.720 just continue that. You have three other siblings, right, that's right. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:17.600 Any of them do music. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.520 My brother played guitar with Lynwood Taylor a few times 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:25.440 around town. He's just like me at heart, a dirty hippie. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.320 He's played acoustic. It's not really you know, it's great 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:34.600 admyras of music. I mean, my brother is everything from 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:39.400 bluegrass Turnpike to John Butler Trio, to all the classic 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.080 rock stuff to all the Ska stuff to the Northeast 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.040 Guy Orchestra. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:44.320 Like loves that are plays. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.600 It just loves it. Yeah, it's It's always around. It 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.560 has always been around in our family. My sister sang 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.880 in the choir of her entire life. She never wanted 0:15:55.880 --> 0:16:01.880 to do what I did. She once she gets something 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.280 in her head, the way that it's supposed to sound 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.720 her head, that's the way that it stays, big, powerhouse vocal. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:13.240 So she was She was a singer too. Cody liked 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.080 to think he could play the drums, but he really. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.520 Where where did the music come from? In your family? 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.480 My dad was always My dad was a very big 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.600 admirer of it. I mean I remember it on every 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.920 every time we were in the truck, any trip that 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.680 we ever went on, it was always on. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.720 What did what was always on? Like what comes to 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:36.920 mind on any trail. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.840 Our stations were nine eight point seven Big one hundred 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.360 point three, which was the rock station, classic rock station, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:48.760 so playing all the old the oldies ish and obviously 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.600 the two country stations from back Home which is nine 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.600 three point one ninety eight point seven. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:54.880 Yeah. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.160 But yeah, man, I mean I remember watching Lane and 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.360 my sister in the choir, and I remember watching her 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.280 in the plays that they used to do up in 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.520 the middle school. And so it was always around, you know, 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.919 it was always around, and then they figured out I 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:16.879 could hold a tune. You know, at a very early age. 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.520 How old were you when you get actually sing. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.399 Belting it out? Not till I was, I mean just 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.320 singing in the truck, I mean ankle blighter size. 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.680 Yeah, I mean there's an indication at seven eight nine 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.720 that there's some promise here. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.800 I was. It wasn't like that. It didn't come. The 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.400 start of my dedication didn't come until the house burned down, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.719 and that was probably I was thirteen when that happened. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:44.439 Talk about that. 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.359 So me and my old man were trying to thaw 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:54.320 out a pipe on h We thought it was right 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.080 next to the sink, which in reality it was twenty 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.639 yards across the house, so we weren't even in the 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.080 right But we threw a little heater and an enclosure 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.560 outside of it, and he caught the roof and burned 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.719 from the top down. While I was still inside of it. 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.320 I was getting up for school and breathing in smoke, 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:18.880 and uh yeah, February twenty second, three inches of snow 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.280 on the ground, flames in the sky. 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:23.520 Wow, it was snowing too. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.960 Yeah. But while we were rebuilding that, we took four 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.920 months off of work. My dad's a brick layer Stonemation. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:35.360 We've nicol Sa Mason. Anyway, took four months off of work, 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.119 and while we were rebuilding, I would sit up there 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.840 in the evenings. And our house was connected by a 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:45.159 breezeway on the second story and office space for business. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.399 We lived in there for four months while we rebuilt 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.240 the househouse. But I would sit up there in the 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.439 evenings and play and learn songs. And it was a 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.520 very big escape for me. I mean, we just got 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:04.120 smashed and to like two bedrooms and not a lot 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.560 of space, so I need to get away from people. 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:08.240 Where'd you get the guitar? 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.840 I had gotten one for Christmas. It was a little Fender. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:16.159