Speaker 1: What's up, Bachelor Happy Hour? We are back again. I'm
Speaker 1: one of your hosts, Becca Koufred, and I am your
Speaker 1: other host, Michelle Young. And before we started recording this,
Speaker 1: we have been chatting for about an hour about Michelle
Speaker 1: and her dating life and how she's got to get
Speaker 1: back on the horse. It's gonna be a fun one
Speaker 1: of a very hot episode this week because I think
Speaker 1: Michelle's ready. I'm ready. We're of course going to talk
Speaker 1: about everything that went down in Paradise, and then we
Speaker 1: have a very fun guest. We sure do. And I
Speaker 1: think part of it is the fact that I didn't
Speaker 1: even know what time it is, but I've already I'm
Speaker 1: like on my second selsiest today, So I'm feeling amped.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's like a positive thing or
Speaker 1: if that just shows how much life is and shambles
Speaker 1: right now. But this week has been crazy. It's crazy
Speaker 1: on the beach, it's crazy on the screen, and holy hell,
Speaker 1: it's crazy off the screen as well. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble that's going on. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going on behind the scenes. And I also feel
Speaker 1: like our audience and like bastur Nation has probably like
Speaker 1: the most in depth behind the scenes extra info that
Speaker 1: they've ever had with social media this season, what would
Speaker 1: you say, oh, one thousand percent? And well, that's a
Speaker 1: great segue to introduce our guests that will be coming
Speaker 1: on shortly, because if I'm going to timestamp this a
Speaker 1: little bit, but this past week was when the Paradise
Speaker 1: reunion was filmed, so everyone from the show was in
Speaker 1: town in LA They of course spent the day filming
Speaker 1: in front of the live audience. But then I heard
Speaker 1: some rumors from the grapevine of them taking this party
Speaker 1: elsewhere and everyone going out and all of the crazy
Speaker 1: dramatics had occurred outside of TV land, like on everyone's
Speaker 1: own time. And so we're gonna bring actually Rachel on
Speaker 1: very shortly to talk about what she witnessed go down.
Speaker 1: Luckily she wasn't part of the paradi cast, but she
Speaker 1: was still there amongst everyone, and so I can't wait
Speaker 1: to have her on pick her brain about what we
Speaker 1: saw with her and Gabby and the teaser for next week,
Speaker 1: they're about to hit the beach and according to Rachel herself,
Speaker 1: she said, Paradise is never going to be the same.
Speaker 1: But before we bring her in, here Michelle, how's it
Speaker 1: when you're finally back in La. You're you luckily weren't
Speaker 1: in the midst of all this drama this past weekend though,
Speaker 1: you know, I will say no, I was not in
Speaker 1: the midst of this drama in LA. But I've just
Speaker 1: been everywhere besides La. Legitimately made a goal to be
Speaker 1: in LA so that I can really start getting my
Speaker 1: feet grounded here. But I came back just in time,
Speaker 1: just for everybody from Paradise to be here. Lovely. I
Speaker 1: love that. So I was not in the midst of
Speaker 1: all of it. My girl Ryan, Ryan Claytor, she was
Speaker 1: in town this weekend. Um, we were on our way
Speaker 1: to link up, and then we made a quick U
Speaker 1: turn when you heard who was all gonna be? When
Speaker 1: we heard when we when we heard yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't Yeah, yeah, they don't always need to be there.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's fun being part of this crazy vastination, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you just need to take a step back and
Speaker 1: be like, I don't want to touch this with a
Speaker 1: ten foot pole. No. And it's just also there's just
Speaker 1: times where it's like sometimes it's just not it's not
Speaker 1: worth it. It's like you just I have no foma
Speaker 1: when it comes to these situations, right, like all of
Speaker 1: this drama, all of these things, like just the antics
Speaker 1: that are happening and just taking place. It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't need to be at the center of this um
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But it's just it never stops.
Speaker 1: And I think what's hard to is in the day
Speaker 1: of social media, somebody always catches it, and so we
Speaker 1: can you can only be so mad. But like you know,
Speaker 1: you got on public, you know, you go on in
Speaker 1: public with all of these other people, Like people take pictures,
Speaker 1: People are aware who you're with, People are aware who
Speaker 1: are people are watching your every move people know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't need to walk into a party
Speaker 1: from my exes I one thousand. You're like, I've already
Speaker 1: filmed the mental all on my season. I don't, right exactly, No,
Speaker 1: I really do. I really do love you know, some
Speaker 1: of them, but you know you don't need to be
Speaker 1: around others. Yeah, yeah, I get it. It was a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't know if people read spoilers
Speaker 1: or like, even if you're on social media, there's a
Speaker 1: lot that was just put out there in general. So
Speaker 1: like you said, I think viewers are probably even more
Speaker 1: spoiled than they've ever been. Really, you can't avoid it.
Speaker 1: The reunion is going to be wild. I can't wait
Speaker 1: till we actually see it and get that the episode
Speaker 1: to see all well not even all part of what
Speaker 1: went down, but yeah, let's get into just this episode
Speaker 1: from last night. It was kind of a heavier one.
Speaker 1: I feel like it really left at least like me personally,
Speaker 1: like feeling kind of down. There was like a lot
Speaker 1: that went down and it was just heavy. So overall, like,
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on the drama? Like I want
Speaker 1: to get into some of the Kate Hayden Logan stuff. Yeah, wow, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I've been through this
Speaker 1: process or watching it on TV or however many I'd
Speaker 1: be curious of listeners if they pick up on this
Speaker 1: stuff too. But when an episode starts off with some
Speaker 1: and feeling confident about the relationship, like Logan's like we
Speaker 1: made it past all of you know, the speed bumps,
Speaker 1: and it's like you just like hear the music and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, okay, something's going to happen here, and
Speaker 1: it's like the same thing happened with Rodney of like them,
Speaker 1: like they really play on like the fact that this
Speaker 1: person felt so confident and it's like you know that
Speaker 1: it's like potentially going to go the other direction. It's
Speaker 1: it's always so short lived and like so intentional. I
Speaker 1: feel like of just how it plays out, But wow,
Speaker 1: the whole logan Kate thing, what are you? I want
Speaker 1: to know your thoughts on this, because so we had
Speaker 1: Kate on the podcast um a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I feel like after that podcast,
Speaker 1: you know, you, Beck and I you and you and
Speaker 1: I kind of had a little bit of time to
Speaker 1: talk afterwards, and it was just for me, I think
Speaker 1: the biggest like what's a different what's a different word
Speaker 1: for red flag? I can't keep using red flag? Biggest
Speaker 1: um like concern, I guess biggest, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: what wasn't sitting well with me was the still was
Speaker 1: the Seney situation was when she was trying to walk away,
Speaker 1: had a smile on her face and kept like seeking
Speaker 1: her out, and it was very in this like it
Speaker 1: for me anyways, it came off in this very like
Speaker 1: taunting way of like establishing dominance and like who has
Speaker 1: the power. And that's what I feel like we're kind
Speaker 1: of seeing this week again, is you know it really
Speaker 1: truly is fine that she has standards. She wants somebody
Speaker 1: who is you know, you know whatever, certain age, financial set. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got it, But that does not mean that you
Speaker 1: are better than Logan. That doesn't mean that you have
Speaker 1: more value than Logan because I felt like this is
Speaker 1: a situation like her comment about like, well, he can't
Speaker 1: even afford the equinox, and I'm like, okay, now, so
Speaker 1: what you're saying, I was like, what, I right? But
Speaker 1: like now, I mean shit, if I'm like also like
Speaker 1: a Bachelor Nation watcher, I'm like, oh so if you
Speaker 1: can't afford equinox, you are now on a different level. No,
Speaker 1: Like that's not I don't do that. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: I think for me, what really rubbed me the wrong
Speaker 1: way with their situation was like none of that was
Speaker 1: really relayed to Logan or Hayden right, Like it was
Speaker 1: more so like her with her girls having girl chats.
Speaker 1: But also like at some point, like that's pretty unfair
Speaker 1: to Logan too, Like if you're looking for a partner
Speaker 1: that you know has this like certain level of finances
Speaker 1: and like independence relay that like you at the end
Speaker 1: of this show, like the goal is to find a
Speaker 1: partner or to fall in love or to get engaged,
Speaker 1: like unless you're direct with what you're exactly looking for.
Speaker 1: Like he Logan was totally in the blue about any
Speaker 1: of this, Like he thought that no good at that point,
Speaker 1: Like you saw it on his face when she handed
Speaker 1: in that rose and said, like you have a lot
Speaker 1: to work on, do better. He was so taking it back.
Speaker 1: And so that's where I felt for him, of like
Speaker 1: everyone needs to be on the same page here and
Speaker 1: they're not, and that it just is going to get
Speaker 1: even messier. Yeah, let's get into the biggest mess of
Speaker 1: this week, and that is between Justin, Rodney and Eliza.
Speaker 1: I mean to say, I did not let Thomas watch
Speaker 1: this episode because he considers Rodney like a little brother
Speaker 1: like he even though they're the same age. I don't
Speaker 1: even know why I'm saying that, but the same sentiment,
Speaker 1: like he would have been fuming. I will say I
Speaker 1: felt for Rodney in those moments, like I truly felt
Speaker 1: like he was shocked. He was not expecting that conversation
Speaker 1: to happen, and it was a tough one to see
Speaker 1: him go. I mean, and I don't think we've ever
Speaker 1: seen the show on a level where other people are
Speaker 1: crying and like most of the cast is visibly distraught
Speaker 1: when one person's leaving. I will say that I got
Speaker 1: choked up watching this just because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Rodney and I have natural barriers, right with just things,
Speaker 1: but like I I obviously still want the best for
Speaker 1: him and you know, miss him as a friend and
Speaker 1: things like that, and so like to see him hurt
Speaker 1: like that, and to see him be so understanding with Eliza,
Speaker 1: like truly just so respectful, understanding, like we can get
Speaker 1: through this. Let's work through this. And like for them
Speaker 1: to for him to go through all that stress to
Speaker 1: then come back to this heartbreak and see that it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like gut wrenching, completely gut wrenching. And
Speaker 1: I know for a lot of the viewers, I mean,
Speaker 1: we always get this every season. People are like, there's
Speaker 1: no way somebody feels that strongly, like in such a
Speaker 1: short amount of time. But like, keep in mind, when
Speaker 1: you're on Paradise, you have basically all day every day
Speaker 1: to spend moments with whoever you're trying to get to
Speaker 1: know and pursue and date, and so without a job, yeah,
Speaker 1: without a job, without any distractions, like you are literally
Speaker 1: just with them on the beach. And I think taking
Speaker 1: it back to the beginning of their relationship, like sure
Speaker 1: it wasn't long, but like keep in mind when they
Speaker 1: first met, like their first state, they had talked about
Speaker 1: going to Europe together. They had talked about meeting families,
Speaker 1: like they had like really solidified this connection fresh out
Speaker 1: the gate, and like talked about serious stuff and like
Speaker 1: made future plans. And so now that's where I could
Speaker 1: see like why Rodney was so heartbroken, because like in
Speaker 1: his mind, he's like, yes, this is a future, like
Speaker 1: we are making tangible plans to be a couple outside
Speaker 1: of this beach, and everything was just shaken up. It
Speaker 1: was it was so so sad to watch like poor Rodney. Honestly,
Speaker 1: like I texted him, I was like, get ready buckle
Speaker 1: up for the hashtag Rodney for Bachelor campaign to start
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, because I feel like America is just going
Speaker 1: to feel for him. Yeah, I just, I mean, he
Speaker 1: just he is such a great person and it has
Speaker 1: been nice seeing him on the sand. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Baschination is going to really miss seeing him every week
Speaker 1: there as well, and just it's it is. It's just
Speaker 1: like everyone was so heartbreak broken because he is very genuine,
Speaker 1: you know. Um with all of that, I was kind
Speaker 1: of hoping it was nice to see him on their
Speaker 1: away from somebody else. It was nice to see old Rodney.
Speaker 1: I get it. It's you're in a tough position because
Speaker 1: obviously you had dated him at one point, you then
Speaker 1: became friends and now like he is best friends with
Speaker 1: your ax. It's just a tricky situation. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: diminish like him as an notion. I literally know, I
Speaker 1: truly like, I guess, I mean two things that is
Speaker 1: from life that really like from any relationship is yeah,
Speaker 1: Rodney and Percy though two great things. Well with that,
Speaker 1: I mean they're like, wasn't really much else to Paradise
Speaker 1: other than the two things we just got into, honestly,
Speaker 1: thank God, because with everything going on outside Paradise, it's
Speaker 1: a lot in this week of everything Paradise. I really
Speaker 1: want to bring Rachel on to pick her brain about,
Speaker 1: I mean, just her in general, how life is after
Speaker 1: the Batcherette, Like she's living in La so much has
Speaker 1: changed for her, so I mean and honestly, the last
Speaker 1: time we spoke with her was at Afar. We saw
Speaker 1: everything that went down during that crazy finale, and she's
Speaker 1: just I feel like she's just in probably now a
Speaker 1: totally different headspace now that she's a little little slightly removed.
Speaker 1: So let's just bring her on. Let's get our girl
Speaker 1: on here. Wow, Rachel, welcome back to Happy We're We're
Speaker 1: so excited to have you. I have so many questions
Speaker 1: that I want to ask you in half of them
Speaker 1: probably can't even air on here. So we'll have little
Speaker 1: girls night. I was telling Michelle, I keep picturing like
Speaker 1: I feel like you're just gonna walk down her stairs,
Speaker 1: like through the door, like the fact that you love
Speaker 1: to zoom, and I'm like, she's probably just sleeping over
Speaker 1: with Michelle right now. She's upstairs. Now. The amount of
Speaker 1: times I've been to your apartment at this point is
Speaker 1: probably more than mine. Yeah, news watch for everyone. Michelle
Speaker 1: is renting out my place in La Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if people have pieced together, So we're basically all
Speaker 1: gonna move in and it'll be like Three's Company with
Speaker 1: three of us girls and then Thomas can just come
Speaker 1: in and bring us talk about whenever we need it
Speaker 1: coming back perfect online has been asking me Rachel Michelle
Speaker 1: Rummate's like, basically, you should you should be at this
Speaker 1: point because then I can un charge the rent a
Speaker 1: little bit. So sorry speaking about Michelle, you got a
Speaker 1: pay me. I know, I know. I then just remembered, Oh,
Speaker 1: my dad, I wish I could see would you say
Speaker 1: then I wish Becca was my landlord? I could be?
Speaker 1: This is such an easy fix. Yeah, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go. Um, Rachel, Okay. The last time
Speaker 1: we had you unhappy hour though was well not to
Speaker 1: like bring up old wounds, was during Afar of your season.
Speaker 1: Since then, how have you been? You've obviously moved to
Speaker 1: La life is different. Like take us through how you've
Speaker 1: been since that last interview we had with you. It's
Speaker 1: so crazy because it really feels like our interview was yesterday,
Speaker 1: but it really was so long ago. So obviously I
Speaker 1: talked to you guys right before the finale. That was
Speaker 1: a whirlwind going through everything after. I got to go
Speaker 1: to Vegas with Michelle right after, and so it's just
Speaker 1: been kind of settling into life after everything and trying
Speaker 1: to get my bearings. But I just moved to La
Speaker 1: I lived with Genevieve, who's on Paradise this season, and
Speaker 1: we've been having a great time, but still trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, settle in and figure figure out a new city.
Speaker 1: But it's been great. Did Michelle ever tell you that
Speaker 1: after the finale, like you had to fly to New
Speaker 1: York obviously, so you were busy, couldn't be part of this.
Speaker 1: We stayed up and partied with your parents, tell the
Speaker 1: bar clothes and your friends, and at least two we
Speaker 1: were dancing all night long. Like I woke up and
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even admit this, but like didn't remember half
Speaker 1: the night, and I was like it was a blast. No,
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I was on the flight to New
Speaker 1: York and I was just getting pictures from my dad,
Speaker 1: like him and Michelle, him and Caitlin Bristow, and I'm
Speaker 1: like they're literally having the time of their life right now,
Speaker 1: and that good. I just don't remember, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like I vaguely remember, like your dad just like feeding
Speaker 1: me a friendship mom and I taking selfie. It is
Speaker 1: like there was like it was just it was a
Speaker 1: night it was a great night to yeah, be able
Speaker 1: to sit down with them and talk with them. We definitely,
Speaker 1: we definitely celebrated you and your season with your family,
Speaker 1: So do not worry that night. Yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was actually once we got away from the stage and
Speaker 1: just had your family and drinks and some food, it was.
Speaker 1: It was the best way to end what was like
Speaker 1: probably the most crazy finale we've ever seen. Um okay,
Speaker 1: so you're in California now. You just mentioned you're living
Speaker 1: with Genevieve. What made you decide to move here in
Speaker 1: the first place. Well, it was kind of just such
Speaker 1: a last minute decision. So obviously I'm a pilot, I'm
Speaker 1: still flying, and I just wanted to move to a
Speaker 1: place where I could do that all the time. So
Speaker 1: Florida is a good place in California as well, and
Speaker 1: so kind of when everything was going down behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: Genevieve was like, hey, like I'm moving, Like what you
Speaker 1: want to live together? And I was just like you
Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, like let's just do it. And so
Speaker 1: it was super last it, but I think it was
Speaker 1: exactly what I needed at the time and what I
Speaker 1: still need and for us to be able to live
Speaker 1: together and go through this together. It's been it's been
Speaker 1: really fun and honestly, like I'm really just excited to
Speaker 1: be out here. I mean, you got settled in real
Speaker 1: quick with like embracing your whole California beach babe, with
Speaker 1: those bakin I don't remember where I was when I saw.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, she didn't. I know, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, Rachel now and I'm single, just
Speaker 1: hinged profile right there. Yeah. Yeah, So it was just
Speaker 1: creasy getting out here and it's still be like literally
Speaker 1: behind me, there's like a bunch of stuff and we
Speaker 1: still hadn't hung up and just getting settled. But it
Speaker 1: really was the best thing for my mind, like, especially
Speaker 1: after going through a breakup and going through such a
Speaker 1: crazy season, to like kind of just get a fresh
Speaker 1: start and be able to go somewhere new. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been really awesome Michelle obviously you know as well.
Speaker 1: And having Michelle out here is to visit us more.
Speaker 1: I know I do in La I I well, it
Speaker 1: kind of like you two I went through. I mean
Speaker 1: this was a couple years ago. I went through my
Speaker 1: breakup and that's when I decided to move to La
Speaker 1: I was like, I need a clean slate. I need
Speaker 1: like my own area that I can like make my
Speaker 1: own new memories, and so La was like the best
Speaker 1: fresh start. There's something always going on. It's just so fun,
Speaker 1: so eclectic. So I need to ask you this though,
Speaker 1: because now, like, well, we'll see you in Paradise and
Speaker 1: we'll get into that, like your little appearance that you did,
Speaker 1: but you, for the most part, like like this season
Speaker 1: you're not a part of, Like you're removed from the drama.
Speaker 1: You're obviously living with Genevieve, so I'm sure you're still
Speaker 1: watching Paradise and watching your friend. How nice is it, though,
Speaker 1: to be able to relax a little bit more and
Speaker 1: not be the focus of a show. It is the
Speaker 1: best feeling in the world to watch and like know
Speaker 1: all my best friends and seeing everyone and not be
Speaker 1: a part of it. It's just I mean, obviously, I'm
Speaker 1: so thankful for my time as the Bacheloria and for everything,
Speaker 1: but it's been really nice to not have to go
Speaker 1: through it, because it's hard. Watching back is arguably harder
Speaker 1: than like, so yes, it's been nice, but I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously I know what it's like to go through a
Speaker 1: second time, and it usually is so much different than
Speaker 1: the first. So I've been helping Genevieve like through it
Speaker 1: because it is tough. So it's been nice to have
Speaker 1: each other watching it all back. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, it's been quite a doozy on the
Speaker 1: sand for everybody involved. I would say a dozy? Was
Speaker 1: that really Minnesota? And me, I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: your Minnesota, show it and show UFTA, like, yikes, Like
Speaker 1: there's been a lot that's been going on, and there's
Speaker 1: you know, Beck and I were talking about earlier that
Speaker 1: there's so much that is going on social media, like
Speaker 1: online fights, tweeting back and forth, throwing shade, trying to
Speaker 1: clear the air. We're like, Becca and I are over
Speaker 1: here like okay, contract violation, contract violation, Like damn, you know,
Speaker 1: how how is that? Because you know, Jenevieve and Aaron
Speaker 1: have really kind of been going at it on Twitter
Speaker 1: and she's gotten a lot of heat, A lot of
Speaker 1: people have gotten heat from just viewers. How how is that?
Speaker 1: Because I know that, you know, she's got a lot
Speaker 1: going on with everything. Yeah, I mean it is crazy
Speaker 1: that you guys mentioned that because I was thinking the
Speaker 1: same thing, and I was actually telling Jenevieve that. Like
Speaker 1: on our season, it kind of was just like what
Speaker 1: airs airs and you don't really get to say, hey,
Speaker 1: this happened behind the scenes. We had this conversation. We
Speaker 1: did this. In the amount of times this season, I've
Speaker 1: been like, wait, I'm like seeing a million different like viewpoints.
Speaker 1: What's the truth, what's not I'm like getting whiplashed from everything.
Speaker 1: It's honestly, it's very mussy, very crazy. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Jenne, are you able? Are you going to tweet?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, have you told her to put down
Speaker 1: her phone when it comes to a tweet? Jenemy was
Speaker 1: gonna tweet. I'm like, like, I'm like wondering what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm as you when you're giving her advice, right, because
Speaker 1: you've kind of been through a couple of similar situations.
Speaker 1: It's like, what advice can you give her without like
Speaker 1: that you actually think she'll take to heart and that
Speaker 1: she'll listen to right, Like we've always told people like
Speaker 1: don't go on social media, don't read the comments, don't
Speaker 1: go on forums like whatever. No one listens to that.
Speaker 1: So it's like, what's the best advice you're able to
Speaker 1: give her that you feel like she's taking the heart.
Speaker 1: It's just I think the main thing is just being
Speaker 1: supportive because everyone goes through this watching back in a
Speaker 1: different way and you really just have to support them
Speaker 1: in what like whatever way they take that. And that's
Speaker 1: the main thing too, because when I watched myself back
Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, I would like see the comments and
Speaker 1: read through the dms, and going on the Bachelorette, I
Speaker 1: was like, I physically cannot see the forums and the
Speaker 1: dms and the meme accounts, and that was really for me,
Speaker 1: especially Twitter, Like Twitter is the meanest. So I'm always like,
Speaker 1: you know, just stay off it and try your best.
Speaker 1: But I think just supporting her and supporting everyone, honestly,
Speaker 1: all my friends that are down there is all I
Speaker 1: can really do right now. Yeah, it's easier said than done.
Speaker 1: When it's like don't go on this, don't don't read that,
Speaker 1: don't engage with that. It's like it is sometimes you
Speaker 1: just gotta go through it and then you know, once
Speaker 1: you're ready to decide that like nope, I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. Is kind of like when people
Speaker 1: I feel like, hit their breaking point. With with letting
Speaker 1: that affect them. But it is definitely it's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot to go through. It's a lot
Speaker 1: for one person to go through. Yeah, And it's almost
Speaker 1: like you can't escape it. Like I even remember like
Speaker 1: actively avoiding everything and I would just be on TikTok
Speaker 1: and there'd be like a full video and like what
Speaker 1: I did that week. So it's so easy just to
Speaker 1: stop and watch it and then feel bad for the
Speaker 1: rest of the day. So yeah, it's definitely a lot
Speaker 1: to go through and just supporting everyone as best as
Speaker 1: I can on his name. So speaking of supporting everybody,
Speaker 1: we see that you make a little appearance next week
Speaker 1: in Paradise. What was that like? Well, two parts, I
Speaker 1: guess going in and seeing some of your best friends
Speaker 1: and like being able to get caught up on like
Speaker 1: who they're falling in love with, who they're dating, and
Speaker 1: then vice versa. What was like walking in knowing that
Speaker 1: half of your exes would be there and potentially dating
Speaker 1: your best friends. I know that's been the craziest thing
Speaker 1: to watch back to and like those are all my
Speaker 1: friends and I dated him and he feel it's crazy
Speaker 1: to watch going down. I kind of was aware of
Speaker 1: who was still there and who wasn't because I would
Speaker 1: just text them and text them and as soon as
Speaker 1: that text went through blue like, oh wait, like this happening.
Speaker 1: You had a general idea of who was down there.
Speaker 1: But it was really so much fun to go down
Speaker 1: with Gabby and be a part of their journey and
Speaker 1: hear what's happening and getting the tea. Kind of, um,
Speaker 1: not super excited to watch it just because there might
Speaker 1: be a ring on a finger. General was so much
Speaker 1: fun to go down there and see what everyone was
Speaker 1: up to. Well, yeah, let's set the record straight. So
Speaker 1: timing wise, you and Gabby went down there when you
Speaker 1: were both still engaged in happy relationships. Yeah, so you're
Speaker 1: at a different mindset, different point of your life obviously,
Speaker 1: like post show, so a lot has happened since then.
Speaker 1: So I want all of the listeners and viewers to
Speaker 1: remember that, like this was filmed many, many, many months ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was like weeks after our engagement. It was very soon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not even a month, so you know time right, It
Speaker 1: was Mexico true. Okay, So you and Gabby, you go
Speaker 1: down on the beach together. You and Gabby had spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time on your season of The Bachelorette
Speaker 1: together very frequently, and now you know you've gone through
Speaker 1: your breakup, and now Gabby's also going through a breakup.
Speaker 1: But she's also on Dancing with the Stars, and there's
Speaker 1: so much going on with her. Are you able to
Speaker 1: see her talk to her outside the Dancing with the Stars, Like,
Speaker 1: how often are you guys connecting? Yeah, I mean she
Speaker 1: is so busy right now, which, in a way, I'm
Speaker 1: super grateful for this for her because I think it's
Speaker 1: really helpful to throw yourself into something, and she really
Speaker 1: is practicing all day every single day. So as much
Speaker 1: as we can talk and exchange text, we do, and
Speaker 1: I go and support her in person really any chance
Speaker 1: I can get, so yeah, whatever support and whatever she
Speaker 1: needs right now, I'm going to try to give to her,
Speaker 1: just because we all know how difficult it is, especially
Speaker 1: in the public eye. But I'm just happy that she
Speaker 1: has at least something to focus on instead of just
Speaker 1: whatever is happening behind the scenes. Who knows, maybe once
Speaker 1: Sancy what the Stars has done. Once I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: this out there right now, once she wins that mirror Ball,
Speaker 1: the three of you will obviously have more girl time together,
Speaker 1: but could could maybe live live in the house together
Speaker 1: all three roommates like going through something similar and this
Speaker 1: crazy public eye. I don't know if LA could handle that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if my house could handle that. It
Speaker 1: would be burned to the ground. Oh wow, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of here for it. That would be That would be
Speaker 1: the show in LA. That would be the show I
Speaker 1: will camera for the first time. I will I will
Speaker 1: tease this though, is that Rachel and I have decided
Speaker 1: that we are going to take a trip somewhere and
Speaker 1: somewhere out of the country. We're gonna kind of like
Speaker 1: video it will make sure that our fault, like you know,
Speaker 1: social media can kind of be a part of like
Speaker 1: where we're gonna bounce to next. But we're gonna go
Speaker 1: on dates when this is happening. Have you guys played
Speaker 1: a month? How long are you gonna go for? Like
Speaker 1: two weeks? Two weeks? Oh my god, this will be fun.
Speaker 1: You have to do it like live in real time though,
Speaker 1: where it's like and then like can you have like
Speaker 1: poles for people to be like, oh, we kind of
Speaker 1: like ear leaning towards this guy for somebody. Oh, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna do we put their picture on a boat
Speaker 1: for the one that you let Michelle to go on
Speaker 1: a date with. Yes, and I'm gonna record her from
Speaker 1: the bush? Hell yeah, Like Rachel will be like filming like,
Speaker 1: oh we we're like Michelle's conversation. Oh are you guys
Speaker 1: gonna be miked up? Can we hear these? Um? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But honest, honestly, what's really funny is why is why
Speaker 1: is thinking about Rachel filming from a bush a lot
Speaker 1: creepier than like being on a TV show where like
Speaker 1: you're making out and the cameras right here. Why is it?
Speaker 1: Why is it more creepy pause in the corner recording?
Speaker 1: Because if you guys do it this way, it could
Speaker 1: be illegal if like the other party doesn't know that
Speaker 1: they're being recorded. Correct doesn't say this sounds sketchy. Oh
Speaker 1: I'm here for it though, But yeah, well that's so exciting.
Speaker 1: Um okay, well seating. Yeah, because Michelle and I before
Speaker 1: you came on, Rachel, Michelle and I talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about like her getting back on the saddle, and
Speaker 1: I've been saying date again. Have you been on any
Speaker 1: dates since coming to La or are you still just
Speaker 1: like taking it slow. Well, obviously taking it slow, but
Speaker 1: I actually did go on a date. Did it go well?
Speaker 1: Is there a second date in the future? It did
Speaker 1: go well? Okay, is a second date in the future? Wait,
Speaker 1: it's no one show right, and this is like a
Speaker 1: random person, a random person. How did you meet said
Speaker 1: random person? He slid into you know, the dms like
Speaker 1: we said unhappy ever last time? Like sliding They're open. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, okay, wait where did you go? Since
Speaker 1: it's done? No, where did you go? Um? We just
Speaker 1: went and got coffee? Oh? This casual? It was there?
Speaker 1: Kiss maybe? Oh Michelle? Do you detail knows all this
Speaker 1: shit already Shelle's house right before it happened. This girl
Speaker 1: was tweak. It can you go? I don't know how
Speaker 1: to date, not on a camera. You're like, I need
Speaker 1: somebody to tell me what to talk about. Literally, I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do you date outside of sitting down and being like,
Speaker 1: tell me everything about your life right now in this
Speaker 1: next five minutes, give me all of your trauma like
Speaker 1: you're doing this, strengths and weaknesses. Yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give him a date card, like do I say at
Speaker 1: the coffee shop? Exo rage, Like, what do I do?
Speaker 1: That is so funny? Okay, so I'm here for this,
Speaker 1: so there's probably gonna be a second date. I love this.
Speaker 1: Keep us updated, please, But you're still open to like
Speaker 1: meeting other people, right, yeah, I mean the ms can
Speaker 1: still be slid into everyone. Absolutely, it's absolutely you know,
Speaker 1: anyone can come in and steal you for a sec.
Speaker 1: I feel how is Genevieve as a wing woman? Oh,
Speaker 1: she's great. She's such a good wing woman. So you
Speaker 1: know she might have to meet him soon and she
Speaker 1: can come on the podcast and give her opinion. Okay,
Speaker 1: I love this. So are you keeping it? Like, are
Speaker 1: you trying to steer clear of men within Vatch Nation?
Speaker 1: Do you want just somebody that's removed from the franchise
Speaker 1: or would you be open to still exploringce something with
Speaker 1: somebody from a past season. I don't know, It's it's
Speaker 1: hard to say. I think there is a certain level
Speaker 1: of like comfort with people who know exactly what we've
Speaker 1: been through and being able to date. But we were
Speaker 1: literally me and Jenevie were just talking about how weird
Speaker 1: it is like someone has always dated someone who's someone's ax.
Speaker 1: So I feel like it can get pretty tricky and
Speaker 1: watch since we've all dated each other, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I can. I wouldn't be open to that in the future,
Speaker 1: but who knows. Like our TikTok said when Rachel and
Speaker 1: I did that, TikTok, I want to like somebody who
Speaker 1: has not even seen the show. Okay, It's just it's
Speaker 1: unfair dating though, when they just have at the trip
Speaker 1: of their fingers, like watching us date like this is
Speaker 1: exactly how you look when you fight with people, when
Speaker 1: you cry. I'm like, but that's good because then if
Speaker 1: they're really willing to get to know you know, then
Speaker 1: they will get to know you. But I will say,
Speaker 1: so this date that she went on, is he like
Speaker 1: fairly different from the normal type that you go for? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Very different? Okay, is so nice? Like sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to to explore and see. So yeah, definitely different from
Speaker 1: my type. But Love'll send you guys a picture after
Speaker 1: the Please do what does he do for work? Um?
Speaker 1: The second we give too much away? Yeah like the music? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: industry got it. We did you go to Priscilla's? Did
Speaker 1: you go to Priscilla's? Is the coffee shop? No, we
Speaker 1: went to Alfred's Oh okay, I feel like me Michelle
Speaker 1: needs to go on like a double date. Honestly, we
Speaker 1: were talking about this, do we is it too far?
Speaker 1: If we, like, do we make a dating profile that
Speaker 1: is just like for like the two of us and
Speaker 1: we need to find like either two brothers or best friends. Well,
Speaker 1: did you did you ever hear about Grouper? Like when
Speaker 1: I was living in and this was years ago, so
Speaker 1: I could be dating myself, but Grouper used to be
Speaker 1: a dating app where it was like two people would
Speaker 1: meet and then they each were allowed to bring two
Speaker 1: or three friends, so it'd be like this group of
Speaker 1: people going on this like triple quadruple date, and then
Speaker 1: you could like vibe who you hit it up with,
Speaker 1: so like you two could go and have like two friends.
Speaker 1: It's basically the same concept. It's really weird, but it's
Speaker 1: basically Yeah, it's basically bastination except not filmed. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of into it, but I definitely think we should
Speaker 1: do the double date thing. Honestly, we should. Just next
Speaker 1: time we're together, let's just pitch. Let's just tell two
Speaker 1: best friends that they need to send it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make it I'm gonna make it so easy. I mean, Rachel,
Speaker 1: I know you sent Joey and justin home night one,
Speaker 1: but just bring them back. You two can go on
Speaker 1: your easy double date dance. Everyone has one. Michelle's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit. I'm gonna be this day. Sorry, I can't.
Speaker 1: Actually I have something. Wait. Okay, so Rachel, I know
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys were on your season that
Speaker 1: are currently on Paradise, but from the men that weren't
Speaker 1: on your season, has any caught your eye on Paradise? Yeah, ooh,
Speaker 1: it's actually funny. Um, but I went to the Paradise
Speaker 1: Um like reunion, let's talk about that too. Yeah. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't. And I was like so surprised by, like
Speaker 1: how great these guys in the beach are. Like obviously
Speaker 1: some of them you know, are taken, but I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you see them on TV and you watch them,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know a lot of them, and I
Speaker 1: was like so pleasantly surprised by so many of them.
Speaker 1: They're really good guys. Yeah, there's a lot of sweethearts,
Speaker 1: a lot of them bread flags too, but swear, I
Speaker 1: mean you and Andrew were like matching outfits. I know
Speaker 1: you did show up in a matching fit Paradise reunion. Okay,
Speaker 1: I set us up for it because this is not
Speaker 1: going to happen for like a little air for a
Speaker 1: little it. But like it was crazy. There's a lot
Speaker 1: that happened, but you were in the audience for like
Speaker 1: the taping, and then you also took part in like
Speaker 1: just the fun party outside outside of the actual taping
Speaker 1: with everyone, which probably had even more drama. I would assume. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well from what I've heard, I mean, I woke up
Speaker 1: the next morning and I'm like, all right, everyone tell
Speaker 1: me the details what happened. But as far as the
Speaker 1: taping goes, I mean, I was sitting there with Gabby.
Speaker 1: Obviously we came off a very very messy season, and
Speaker 1: I thought Are after the Final Rose was pretty pretty
Speaker 1: messy and pretty bad. But this, I think this has
Speaker 1: to be probably being messiest reunion that's ever gonna happen.
Speaker 1: The amount of people that were just like coming from
Speaker 1: other's next that you would never expect, I'm like, where
Speaker 1: is this coming from? It was absolutely crazy, insane. No
Speaker 1: really have sat there and dine give us, give us
Speaker 1: like a little bit of tea, like, who win at it?
Speaker 1: That you didn't expect that I didn't expect probably not
Speaker 1: that she went at it, But I was proud of her, Eliza,
Speaker 1: she she was going through it down there. I wanted
Speaker 1: to go down there cradle her. But was it like
Speaker 1: in regards to like the whole Rodney Justin situation or
Speaker 1: was it something completely different? No, it was the love
Speaker 1: triangle situation. Okay, Okay, So you just hinted like Eliza
Speaker 1: obviously win at it for like this love triangle during
Speaker 1: the reunion, and in this week's teaser, we see Eliza
Speaker 1: leave Rodney on the beach and basically go back to
Speaker 1: get Justin. So I don't want you to like say,
Speaker 1: if she's with one of these men or not, but like,
Speaker 1: does the reunion kind of touch on that, like give
Speaker 1: an update enclosure to any of those well, any two
Speaker 1: of those relationships, or like do we know if Eliza's
Speaker 1: with anyone? Well, like, I have so many questions about this. Well,
Speaker 1: there's definitely, you know, an ending to it. I will
Speaker 1: say that, But what I heard was shocking. The details
Speaker 1: that kind of came out post domain were shocking. Well,
Speaker 1: I knew Eliza's side and obviously support her and women
Speaker 1: always doesn't matter, but just some of the details that
Speaker 1: were coming out and some of the things I heard.
Speaker 1: I was just sitting there, Me and Gabby were just
Speaker 1: jaw on the floor. Okay, okay, Oh my gosh. I
Speaker 1: guess like now hearing about like the reunion that you
Speaker 1: took part of, and thank god you weren't actually part
Speaker 1: of it, you were just there to witness everything. It
Speaker 1: feels like last season and even in previous seasons, like
Speaker 1: there was a decent amount of relationships to come from Paradise,
Speaker 1: like whether they were engagements or not. I think like
Speaker 1: the season there's like seven couples that are sold together.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong on that number, but now this
Speaker 1: season it seems like there would have been more. But
Speaker 1: now they're dwindling and certain things are coming to light
Speaker 1: that like these couples are breaking up, So like, do
Speaker 1: we still have some love stories to look forward to?
Speaker 1: I guess that come from this. I mean, of course
Speaker 1: there are so many love stories still there and some
Speaker 1: maybe rekindling happening as well. But yeah, overall this season
Speaker 1: it's been crazy because I really do feel like last
Speaker 1: season was like the gold standard of Paradise and the
Speaker 1: amount of relationships that are successful and still successful from it.
Speaker 1: I don't know this time. I think maybe the switch
Speaker 1: week might have played a part in that them not
Speaker 1: having as much time together. But there is of course
Speaker 1: still going to be love at the end of the day. Okay,
Speaker 1: as long as we have like one couple that we
Speaker 1: cant for. I feel like we have it with Brandon
Speaker 1: and Serene, Like I feel like they're right now, like
Speaker 1: the most serious couple on that beach. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: got to be. They've got to make it, I hope,
Speaker 1: so so much pressure on them. But you guys, right
Speaker 1: in Serene, if you're listening, this is you our only hope.
Speaker 1: You have to make it, Okay, give us hope everyone.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It is really interesting though, just because
Speaker 1: it's like you make a good point, Rachel, with just
Speaker 1: there is the last time that they're being spent, you know,
Speaker 1: together on the beach, or there's just so many more.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like to keep it interesting,
Speaker 1: to keep whatever it is, to like all these different
Speaker 1: moments that are being inserted that are also like kind
Speaker 1: of why paradise seems to work. It's because you get
Speaker 1: to spend more time together. Yeah. Absolutely, it's been you know,
Speaker 1: interesting to watch back going through like having my own
Speaker 1: season and to see how they're actually like getting to
Speaker 1: spend all this time together. It really does make you think,
Speaker 1: like what you know, could have been different if we
Speaker 1: got to spend that amount of time or you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, I don't know if they
Speaker 1: missed out this season by not. But oh, this is
Speaker 1: a good segue for this question because I know that
Speaker 1: you just went on the straight first date with this
Speaker 1: mystery man. But if things didn't happen to work out
Speaker 1: and you're still maybe at the same point next year
Speaker 1: that you're at now, would you ever consider going on
Speaker 1: that beach m I will go if Michelle goes down
Speaker 1: with God, damn it. I knew you're gonna see that.
Speaker 1: I knew you're gonna say that. I'm not going out her.
Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Oh my gosh. I would actually
Speaker 1: love seeing both of you. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: love both of you so much, but hey, I would
Speaker 1: be all for it. I would be your personal handler
Speaker 1: if you both go. I will take a month away
Speaker 1: from my life and from Thomas and the dogs and
Speaker 1: take care of you and in your wedding planning and
Speaker 1: what actually, guess I would love to get away. Just
Speaker 1: take me. I don't want to plan shit. I'm like, trusty,
Speaker 1: show it up. He did well, he did good, so well,
Speaker 1: I think it's a rock. Well we'll see, we'll see. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll keep talking about it, but you know, like right,
Speaker 1: and also we're having our own paradise when we when
Speaker 1: we travel and you know, try to find mister Wright
Speaker 1: and her husbands in Italy. Yeah, but we'll definitely come
Speaker 1: down and maybe like deliver a day card with our
Speaker 1: new people. You know, maybe we'll have a ring. Who knows, well,
Speaker 1: we'll have a friendship bracelet. At least it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the ones like made in Mexico with your names on
Speaker 1: it for life forever. We have a couple names. So
Speaker 1: what's our couple name? Michelle, Rochelle. Yeah, Rochelle, you're already
Speaker 1: basically yeah, yell like that Rochelle. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: a well even like even just Rachel. It's like with
Speaker 1: l Michelle at the edge, but you don't really need
Speaker 1: to change your name. Just sliding and they're kind of
Speaker 1: not really I like Michelle. I'm so funny. Okay, So
Speaker 1: since we last saw you. It was you're, like I
Speaker 1: keep saying, probably in a totally different mindset you were
Speaker 1: going through it. What is like the one takeaway that
Speaker 1: you've learned now being a bit removed from the franchise
Speaker 1: and away from your season, like, learned about yourself, about love,
Speaker 1: what you're looking for anything? Yeah? I mean I really
Speaker 1: did learn so much. But I feel like the biggest
Speaker 1: takeaway I've gotten out of this is just becoming way
Speaker 1: more confident in myself and what I want and standing
Speaker 1: up for what I think I deserve, but ultimately just
Speaker 1: being able to surround myself with so many amazing friends
Speaker 1: and people like Michelle and Gabby and I mean you Becca,
Speaker 1: everyone who's been there for me. I'm just so thankful
Speaker 1: for all of you, and for everyone who is in
Speaker 1: a similar situation. Just surrounding yourself with the people who
Speaker 1: love you, and still obviously healing and going through it,
Speaker 1: but definitely in so much like such a better place.
Speaker 1: Ry now amen to that. I love that to do this,
Speaker 1: I absolutely love that. Okay, So Rachel, you know how
Speaker 1: this goes. I mean, we obviously will do the Rose
Speaker 1: and Thorn, but before that, we added this new little
Speaker 1: part to our episodes, which is basically sharing a resource
Speaker 1: because we think it's so important to keep all of
Speaker 1: our listeners informed and share important resources here and on
Speaker 1: our instagrams that anyone can go to to learn more. Michelle,
Speaker 1: do you want to start or do you want me
Speaker 1: to take it away? I can start. That works, okay,
Speaker 1: So I there's always a lot going on in the media.
Speaker 1: We'll continue, unfortunately to be a lot going on. Becca.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've talked about this one a
Speaker 1: little bit, but did you talk about Who we Are?
Speaker 1: The documentary? No? Okay, perfect, I just don't want to
Speaker 1: do double up on anything. But there's a Netflix documentary
Speaker 1: it's called Who We Are really kind of talks about
Speaker 1: just like where racism, racism comes from, stems stems from,
Speaker 1: it goes into silverl rights, but then it also gets
Speaker 1: into a little bit of like voting in just different
Speaker 1: things with that, which is very relevant to what's coming
Speaker 1: up here, because today is voting day, people, so get
Speaker 1: into your local polls and vote exactly and it just
Speaker 1: really talks about that, and it talks I think the
Speaker 1: cool thing about it is it like it does drop
Speaker 1: back of like how systemic racism kind of has started
Speaker 1: where it has come from, and it does a really
Speaker 1: good job of like dumbing it down it's not the
Speaker 1: correct word, but really explaining it in a way of
Speaker 1: like you don't have to have background knowledge to kind
Speaker 1: of understand it, but also how it needs to change
Speaker 1: or not yes it needs to change, but how it
Speaker 1: actually would change, and the steps that need to be
Speaker 1: put in and the steps that have not been put in.
Speaker 1: So it's been really interesting. But yeah, Who we Are Netflix,
Speaker 1: And it's just kind of like chronologically goes through things,
Speaker 1: gives you a little bit of a history lesson there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Who we Are? Okay, thanks Michelle, take it away, Becca. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to share one too that I wanted
Speaker 1: to say for this week because obviously, like we just said,
Speaker 1: today is voting day and it's so important that people
Speaker 1: do vote. I'm not telling anyone because I know people
Speaker 1: are going to come at us to be like you
Speaker 1: can't tell us who to vote for, So I'm not
Speaker 1: telling anyone who to vote for, but just that it's
Speaker 1: so important to do. So. One podcast that I've been
Speaker 1: listening to that especially this week, well, the two episodes
Speaker 1: that I listened to are perfect for this week. But
Speaker 1: the podcast is called Pod for a Cause, and basically
Speaker 1: it's created for those wanting to affect change and just
Speaker 1: basically the important importance of taking part in the democracy.
Speaker 1: So two episodes that I would recommend. One is called
Speaker 1: here I Haven't Written down. One is called Wire Courts Mattered.
Speaker 1: But the second one that I think is very important,
Speaker 1: it's called Our Bodies on the Ballot and it basically
Speaker 1: discusses voting and abortion rights and how it affects mainly
Speaker 1: black women and people of color. It's so disproportionate obviously
Speaker 1: the healthcare and I think Michelle maybe you had talked
Speaker 1: about this in another resource, but so disproportionate across the
Speaker 1: board for black women and people of color. But it
Speaker 1: gets into like the importance of like voting around reproductive autonomy,
Speaker 1: which I'm a huge advocate for, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: it should be everyone's body, everyone's choice, and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to push that out of anyone. But it's a great,
Speaker 1: great listen. So that episode is called Bodies on the
Speaker 1: Ballot and the podcast is called Pod for the Cause.
Speaker 1: So that is fine this week, And of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Rachel, you are up girl. Yeah, no. Obviously, going
Speaker 1: off of what you just said, everyone get out there
Speaker 1: and vote. I think this vote more than ever is
Speaker 1: super important, especially because of what's going on with obviously
Speaker 1: Rov Wade in each state and how like you said,
Speaker 1: it's affecting so many people, so many women, and just
Speaker 1: everyone in general. So everyone get out and vote. I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this because obviously watching documentaries, listening to
Speaker 1: a podcast like so important to continue to like stay
Speaker 1: in form, especially with everything going on, even just in vatnation,
Speaker 1: like just in general, making sure that you're continuing to
Speaker 1: educate yourself because it is so important. And I was
Speaker 1: thinking about like what we could do every single day,
Speaker 1: and I think the one thing is making sure the
Speaker 1: accounts I follow on social media are like kind of
Speaker 1: in alignment with that, so I am able to every
Speaker 1: single day be able to stay informed on what's going on.
Speaker 1: So I think some of my favorite ones that I'm
Speaker 1: able to stay and keep updated on, I really love
Speaker 1: the Grassroots Law Project and the Dream Defenders. I think
Speaker 1: those are two really great ones. I love impact, and
Speaker 1: so to be able to continuously stay updating and consuming
Speaker 1: that and continuing to learn. Um, it's just a simple follow.
Speaker 1: I think it's super easy to like every day when
Speaker 1: you're scrolling, you know, see and learn something. So yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully that can you know. Oh, I love that. I
Speaker 1: really love that. Especial impact is an impact is a
Speaker 1: good one just because you are getting a lot of
Speaker 1: different information. And I really like that one too because
Speaker 1: you're able to actually like engage with it and or
Speaker 1: interact with it, and they like give you a lot
Speaker 1: of like steps of yeah, different resources. Yeah, totally, thank you, Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. We're all spending half of our time on
Speaker 1: social media anyway, so that's a great, very easy one.
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, well, Rachel, now is the time
Speaker 1: you've done this before where you got to share your
Speaker 1: rose and your thorn. So basically we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: from this season of Paradise. So overall, if you've obviously
Speaker 1: been watching with your girl Genevieve, like who are what
Speaker 1: is getting your rose from Paradise and then also the
Speaker 1: thorn like your least favorite moments anything, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: this is so hard. I think obviously I'm extremely biased
Speaker 1: because a lot of these women on this season are
Speaker 1: like very dear friends to me, so it's been just
Speaker 1: really amazing watching them go out there and be so
Speaker 1: open and honest and vulnerable with their feelings, and it's
Speaker 1: like I watch them. I watched Genevieve like just be
Speaker 1: so emotional and I just am like so proud of
Speaker 1: her for being able to do that. So have to
Speaker 1: give the rose to just all the women down there,
Speaker 1: and I think they're all doing such a good job. Um, thorn,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a switch week. I'm not a fan
Speaker 1: of it. I don't like it. I know there might
Speaker 1: be some relationships coming from it, but I just think
Speaker 1: ultimately it just hindered and hurt so many people in
Speaker 1: different ways. And so I'm gonna say a thorn too.
Speaker 1: It's a tweak and boys who are being meant of
Speaker 1: each who are being mean? All right, I love it,
Speaker 1: That's mine. I love it. Um well, yeah, we're excited
Speaker 1: to see more once to come. We can't wait to
Speaker 1: see you once again on the big screen next week.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, if you two get together and do a
Speaker 1: little girls' night on Monday, let me know, because I
Speaker 1: might just stick around longer in LA and be there
Speaker 1: with you. Yes, definitely we should do that. I was
Speaker 1: paying for it. Yeah, I would love that. Well, Rachel
Speaker 1: It's been so fun seeing you and I'm sure you're
Speaker 1: gonna see Michelle in like two seconds anyways, but can't
Speaker 1: wait to see more of the TikTok's. Um No, but
Speaker 1: we always love having you. You know you're welcome back anytime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for having you, guys. I feel like I could
Speaker 1: have had her on for two more hours and just
Speaker 1: talked about everything. There's so much that we need to
Speaker 1: do a girls' night because like, just like this stuff
Speaker 1: that we like find out, it's unreal. List something you
Speaker 1: even share with me through the grape. Now, this is good.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm so far removed now, like I
Speaker 1: being on this side. Yeah, oh god, your girls keep
Speaker 1: me young. Um. Thank you Rachel for joining us on
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Michelle, it's always so much fun doing this
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