WEBVTT - Rachel’s Next Chapter 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:06.040 What's up, Bachelor Happy Hour? We are back again. I'm 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.720 one of your hosts, Becca Koufred, and I am your 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.640 other host, Michelle Young. And before we started recording this, 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.160 we have been chatting for about an hour about Michelle 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.720 and her dating life and how she's got to get 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.360 back on the horse. It's gonna be a fun one 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.840 of a very hot episode this week because I think 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.880 Michelle's ready. I'm ready. We're of course going to talk 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.440 about everything that went down in Paradise, and then we 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:33.360 have a very fun guest. We sure do. And I 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.280 think part of it is the fact that I didn't 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.159 even know what time it is, but I've already I'm 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.720 like on my second selsiest today, So I'm feeling amped. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.640 I don't know if that's like a positive thing or 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:47.040 if that just shows how much life is and shambles 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.760 right now. But this week has been crazy. It's crazy 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.440 on the beach, it's crazy on the screen, and holy hell, 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.080 it's crazy off the screen as well. So there's a 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.080 lot of trouble that's going on. There's a lot of 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.160 stuff going on behind the scenes. And I also feel 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.200 like our audience and like bastur Nation has probably like 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.880 the most in depth behind the scenes extra info that 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.399 they've ever had with social media this season, what would 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.400 you say, oh, one thousand percent? And well, that's a 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.440 great segue to introduce our guests that will be coming 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.360 on shortly, because if I'm going to timestamp this a 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.320 little bit, but this past week was when the Paradise 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.080 reunion was filmed, so everyone from the show was in 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.360 town in LA They of course spent the day filming 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.720 in front of the live audience. But then I heard 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.399 some rumors from the grapevine of them taking this party 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.560 elsewhere and everyone going out and all of the crazy 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:48.680 dramatics had occurred outside of TV land, like on everyone's 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:53.840 own time. And so we're gonna bring actually Rachel on 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.200 very shortly to talk about what she witnessed go down. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.680 Luckily she wasn't part of the paradi cast, but she 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.360 was still there amongst everyone, and so I can't wait 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.680 to have her on pick her brain about what we 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.440 saw with her and Gabby and the teaser for next week, 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.960 they're about to hit the beach and according to Rachel herself, 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.000 she said, Paradise is never going to be the same. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.760 But before we bring her in, here Michelle, how's it 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.400 when you're finally back in La. You're you luckily weren't 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.480 in the midst of all this drama this past weekend though, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.440 you know, I will say no, I was not in 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.080 the midst of this drama in LA. But I've just 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:36.520 been everywhere besides La. Legitimately made a goal to be 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.880 in LA so that I can really start getting my 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.480 feet grounded here. But I came back just in time, 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:54.000 just for everybody from Paradise to be here. Lovely. I 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.000 love that. So I was not in the midst of 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.120 all of it. My girl Ryan, Ryan Claytor, she was 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.200 in town this weekend. Um, we were on our way 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.959 to link up, and then we made a quick U 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.960 turn when you heard who was all gonna be? When 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.640 we heard when we when we heard yeah, you know, 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.919 we don't Yeah, yeah, they don't always need to be there. 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.640 Sometimes it's fun being part of this crazy vastination, and 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.600 sometimes you just need to take a step back and 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.640 be like, I don't want to touch this with a 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.640 ten foot pole. No. And it's just also there's just 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.280 times where it's like sometimes it's just not it's not 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.560 worth it. It's like you just I have no foma 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.320 when it comes to these situations, right, like all of 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.720 this drama, all of these things, like just the antics 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.360 that are happening and just taking place. It's like, I 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.960 don't need to be at the center of this um 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:57.440 or anything like that. But it's just it never stops. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.560 And I think what's hard to is in the day 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:04.600 of social media, somebody always catches it, and so we 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.800 can you can only be so mad. But like you know, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.600 you got on public, you know, you go on in 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.600 public with all of these other people, Like people take pictures, 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.880 People are aware who you're with, People are aware who 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.200 are people are watching your every move people know. Yeah, 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.400 you know, I don't need to walk into a party 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:24.680 from my exes I one thousand. You're like, I've already 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.880 filmed the mental all on my season. I don't, right exactly, No, 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.360 I really do. I really do love you know, some 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.560 of them, but you know you don't need to be 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.039 around others. Yeah, yeah, I get it. It was a lot. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.760 I mean, and I don't know if people read spoilers 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.800 or like, even if you're on social media, there's a 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:42.839 lot that was just put out there in general. So 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.920 like you said, I think viewers are probably even more 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.280 spoiled than they've ever been. Really, you can't avoid it. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.440 The reunion is going to be wild. I can't wait 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.240 till we actually see it and get that the episode 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.680 to see all well not even all part of what 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:02.839 went down, but yeah, let's get into just this episode 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:07.279 from last night. It was kind of a heavier one. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.920 I feel like it really left at least like me personally, 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.240 like feeling kind of down. There was like a lot 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.599 that went down and it was just heavy. So overall, like, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.120 what were your thoughts on the drama? Like I want 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:24.760 to get into some of the Kate Hayden Logan stuff. Yeah, wow, Okay, Well, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:29.320 I don't know if it's because I've been through this 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.360 process or watching it on TV or however many I'd 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.279 be curious of listeners if they pick up on this 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:40.200 stuff too. But when an episode starts off with some 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:45.240 and feeling confident about the relationship, like Logan's like we 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.320 made it past all of you know, the speed bumps, 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.839 and it's like you just like hear the music and 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.400 you're like, oh, okay, something's going to happen here, and 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.760 it's like the same thing happened with Rodney of like them, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.640 like they really play on like the fact that this 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.880 person felt so confident and it's like you know that 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.159 it's like potentially going to go the other direction. It's 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.719 it's always so short lived and like so intentional. I 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.919 feel like of just how it plays out, But wow, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:20.320 the whole logan Kate thing, what are you? I want 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.440 to know your thoughts on this, because so we had 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.120 Kate on the podcast um a couple of weeks ago, 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.000 a couple of weeks ago. I feel like after that podcast, 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.520 you know, you, Beck and I you and you and 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.000 I kind of had a little bit of time to 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.239 talk afterwards, and it was just for me, I think 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:43.159 the biggest like what's a different what's a different word 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.480 for red flag? I can't keep using red flag? Biggest 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:53.000 um like concern, I guess biggest, you know what I mean? Like, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.080 what wasn't sitting well with me was the still was 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.320 the Seney situation was when she was trying to walk away, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.640 had a smile on her face and kept like seeking 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.440 her out, and it was very in this like it 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.600 for me anyways, it came off in this very like 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:13.160 taunting way of like establishing dominance and like who has 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.120 the power. And that's what I feel like we're kind 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.920 of seeing this week again, is you know it really 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.840 truly is fine that she has standards. She wants somebody 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:28.600 who is you know, you know whatever, certain age, financial set. Okay, Okay, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.640 I got it, But that does not mean that you 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.800 are better than Logan. That doesn't mean that you have 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.960 more value than Logan because I felt like this is 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.800 a situation like her comment about like, well, he can't 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.960 even afford the equinox, and I'm like, okay, now, so 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.920 what you're saying, I was like, what, I right? But 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.040 like now, I mean shit, if I'm like also like 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.280 a Bachelor Nation watcher, I'm like, oh so if you 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.360 can't afford equinox, you are now on a different level. No, 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.840 Like that's not I don't do that. Yeah, and it's 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.760 I think for me, what really rubbed me the wrong 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.560 way with their situation was like none of that was 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:08.280 really relayed to Logan or Hayden right, Like it was 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.640 more so like her with her girls having girl chats. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.680 But also like at some point, like that's pretty unfair 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.320 to Logan too, Like if you're looking for a partner 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:23.000 that you know has this like certain level of finances 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.240 and like independence relay that like you at the end 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.480 of this show, like the goal is to find a 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.000 partner or to fall in love or to get engaged, 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.800 like unless you're direct with what you're exactly looking for. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.760 Like he Logan was totally in the blue about any 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.920 of this, Like he thought that no good at that point, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.520 Like you saw it on his face when she handed 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.960 in that rose and said, like you have a lot 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.559 to work on, do better. He was so taking it back. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.160 And so that's where I felt for him, of like 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:52.680 everyone needs to be on the same page here and 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.080 they're not, and that it just is going to get 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:59.360 even messier. Yeah, let's get into the biggest mess of 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:04.800 this week, and that is between Justin, Rodney and Eliza. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.080 I mean to say, I did not let Thomas watch 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:12.280 this episode because he considers Rodney like a little brother 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.240 like he even though they're the same age. I don't 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.240 even know why I'm saying that, but the same sentiment, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:23.440 like he would have been fuming. I will say I 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.559 felt for Rodney in those moments, like I truly felt 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.319 like he was shocked. He was not expecting that conversation 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.719 to happen, and it was a tough one to see 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.400 him go. I mean, and I don't think we've ever 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.280 seen the show on a level where other people are 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:45.280 crying and like most of the cast is visibly distraught 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.760 when one person's leaving. I will say that I got 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.920 choked up watching this just because it's like, you know, 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:58.120 Rodney and I have natural barriers, right with just things, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.840 but like I I obviously still want the best for 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.840 him and you know, miss him as a friend and 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.760 things like that, and so like to see him hurt 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:12.080 like that, and to see him be so understanding with Eliza, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:16.240 like truly just so respectful, understanding, like we can get 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.800 through this. Let's work through this. And like for them 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.800 to for him to go through all that stress to 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.280 then come back to this heartbreak and see that it's like, 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:31.600 oh my god, like gut wrenching, completely gut wrenching. And 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.360 I know for a lot of the viewers, I mean, 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.560 we always get this every season. People are like, there's 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.320 no way somebody feels that strongly, like in such a 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.280 short amount of time. But like, keep in mind, when 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.200 you're on Paradise, you have basically all day every day 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.760 to spend moments with whoever you're trying to get to 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.400 know and pursue and date, and so without a job, yeah, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.000 without a job, without any distractions, like you are literally 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:58.600 just with them on the beach. And I think taking 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.880 it back to the beginning of their relationship, like sure 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.439 it wasn't long, but like keep in mind when they 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.679 first met, like their first state, they had talked about 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.360 going to Europe together. They had talked about meeting families, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:13.200 like they had like really solidified this connection fresh out 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.240 the gate, and like talked about serious stuff and like 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.280 made future plans. And so now that's where I could 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.360 see like why Rodney was so heartbroken, because like in 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.400 his mind, he's like, yes, this is a future, like 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.280 we are making tangible plans to be a couple outside 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:32.160 of this beach, and everything was just shaken up. It 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.720 was it was so so sad to watch like poor Rodney. Honestly, 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.320 like I texted him, I was like, get ready buckle 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.120 up for the hashtag Rodney for Bachelor campaign to start 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.920 Tuesday morning, because I feel like America is just going 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.680 to feel for him. Yeah, I just, I mean, he 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.800 just he is such a great person and it has 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.360 been nice seeing him on the sand. I think, you know, 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.920 Baschination is going to really miss seeing him every week 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.400 there as well, and just it's it is. It's just 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:11.400 like everyone was so heartbreak broken because he is very genuine, 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:16.000 you know. Um with all of that, I was kind 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.559 of hoping it was nice to see him on their 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.520 away from somebody else. It was nice to see old Rodney. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.920 I get it. It's you're in a tough position because 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.240 obviously you had dated him at one point, you then 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.720 became friends and now like he is best friends with 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.400 your ax. It's just a tricky situation. But that doesn't 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.559 diminish like him as an notion. I literally know, I 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:41.240 truly like, I guess, I mean two things that is 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:45.679 from life that really like from any relationship is yeah, 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:54.880 Rodney and Percy though two great things. Well with that, 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.960 I mean they're like, wasn't really much else to Paradise 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.120 other than the two things we just got into, honestly, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:06.480 thank God, because with everything going on outside Paradise, it's 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.240 a lot in this week of everything Paradise. I really 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.440 want to bring Rachel on to pick her brain about, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.960 I mean, just her in general, how life is after 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.600 the Batcherette, Like she's living in La so much has 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.520 changed for her, so I mean and honestly, the last 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.920 time we spoke with her was at Afar. We saw 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:32.920 everything that went down during that crazy finale, and she's 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.800 just I feel like she's just in probably now a 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:40.559 totally different headspace now that she's a little little slightly removed. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.360 So let's just bring her on. Let's get our girl 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:58.040 on here. Wow, Rachel, welcome back to Happy We're We're 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.080 so excited to have you. I have so many questions 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.520 that I want to ask you in half of them 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.480 probably can't even air on here. So we'll have little 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:10.640 girls night. I was telling Michelle, I keep picturing like 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.560 I feel like you're just gonna walk down her stairs, 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.920 like through the door, like the fact that you love 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.280 to zoom, and I'm like, she's probably just sleeping over 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.360 with Michelle right now. She's upstairs. Now. The amount of 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.320 times I've been to your apartment at this point is 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.920 probably more than mine. Yeah, news watch for everyone. Michelle 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.920 is renting out my place in La Like I don't 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.120 know if people have pieced together, So we're basically all 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.400 gonna move in and it'll be like Three's Company with 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.440 three of us girls and then Thomas can just come 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.240 in and bring us talk about whenever we need it 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:45.160 coming back perfect online has been asking me Rachel Michelle 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:50.800 Rummate's like, basically, you should you should be at this 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.600 point because then I can un charge the rent a 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:58.720 little bit. So sorry speaking about Michelle, you got a 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.400 pay me. I know, I know. I then just remembered, Oh, 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:06.560 my dad, I wish I could see would you say 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.120 then I wish Becca was my landlord? I could be? 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.640 This is such an easy fix. Yeah, I'm gonna say, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.640 let's go. Let's go. Um, Rachel, Okay. The last time 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.520 we had you unhappy hour though was well not to 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.400 like bring up old wounds, was during Afar of your season. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.080 Since then, how have you been? You've obviously moved to 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.440 La life is different. Like take us through how you've 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.120 been since that last interview we had with you. It's 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.760 so crazy because it really feels like our interview was yesterday, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.720 but it really was so long ago. So obviously I 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.800 talked to you guys right before the finale. That was 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.040 a whirlwind going through everything after. I got to go 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.800 to Vegas with Michelle right after, and so it's just 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.480 been kind of settling into life after everything and trying 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.920 to get my bearings. But I just moved to La 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.960 I lived with Genevieve, who's on Paradise this season, and 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.280 we've been having a great time, but still trying to, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.480 you know, settle in and figure figure out a new city. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.400 But it's been great. Did Michelle ever tell you that 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.280 after the finale, like you had to fly to New 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.560 York obviously, so you were busy, couldn't be part of this. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:17.000 We stayed up and partied with your parents, tell the 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:21.120 bar clothes and your friends, and at least two we 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.920 were dancing all night long. Like I woke up and 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.920 I shouldn't even admit this, but like didn't remember half 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.440 the night, and I was like it was a blast. No, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.080 I'm so jealous. I was on the flight to New 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.320 York and I was just getting pictures from my dad, 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.400 like him and Michelle, him and Caitlin Bristow, and I'm 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.960 like they're literally having the time of their life right now, 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:43.120 and that good. I just don't remember, Like I feel 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.120 like I vaguely remember, like your dad just like feeding 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:50.880 me a friendship mom and I taking selfie. It is 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.320 like there was like it was just it was a 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.640 night it was a great night to yeah, be able 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.400 to sit down with them and talk with them. We definitely, 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.840 we definitely celebrated you and your season with your family, 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:12.480 So do not worry that night. Yeah, it was. It 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.680 was actually once we got away from the stage and 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.959 just had your family and drinks and some food, it was. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.679 It was the best way to end what was like 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.520 probably the most crazy finale we've ever seen. Um okay, 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.120 so you're in California now. You just mentioned you're living 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.399 with Genevieve. What made you decide to move here in 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.520 the first place. Well, it was kind of just such 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.160 a last minute decision. So obviously I'm a pilot, I'm 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.639 still flying, and I just wanted to move to a 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.600 place where I could do that all the time. So 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.919 Florida is a good place in California as well, and 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.439 so kind of when everything was going down behind the scenes, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.959 Genevieve was like, hey, like I'm moving, Like what you 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.040 want to live together? And I was just like you 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.680 know what, Yeah, like let's just do it. And so 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.040 it was super last it, but I think it was 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.399 exactly what I needed at the time and what I 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.760 still need and for us to be able to live 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.880 together and go through this together. It's been it's been 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.639 really fun and honestly, like I'm really just excited to 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.920 be out here. I mean, you got settled in real 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:20.119 quick with like embracing your whole California beach babe, with 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:26.200 those bakin I don't remember where I was when I saw. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.359 I was like, no, she didn't. I know, I didn't. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.640 I was like, damn, Rachel now and I'm single, just 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:41.120 hinged profile right there. Yeah. Yeah, So it was just 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.000 creasy getting out here and it's still be like literally 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:46.879 behind me, there's like a bunch of stuff and we 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.239 still hadn't hung up and just getting settled. But it 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.040 really was the best thing for my mind, like, especially 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.320 after going through a breakup and going through such a 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.479 crazy season, to like kind of just get a fresh 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.720 start and be able to go somewhere new. I mean, 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.000 it's been really awesome Michelle obviously you know as well. 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:08.080 And having Michelle out here is to visit us more. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.639 I know I do in La I I well, it 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:14.840 kind of like you two I went through. I mean 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:16.359 this was a couple years ago. I went through my 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.320 breakup and that's when I decided to move to La 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.040 I was like, I need a clean slate. I need 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.119 like my own area that I can like make my 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.560 own new memories, and so La was like the best 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:29.320 fresh start. There's something always going on. It's just so fun, 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.400 so eclectic. So I need to ask you this though, 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.520 because now, like, well, we'll see you in Paradise and 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.120 we'll get into that, like your little appearance that you did, 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.639 but you, for the most part, like like this season 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.240 you're not a part of, Like you're removed from the drama. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.440 You're obviously living with Genevieve, so I'm sure you're still 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.000 watching Paradise and watching your friend. How nice is it, though, 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.639 to be able to relax a little bit more and 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:58.040 not be the focus of a show. It is the 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:02.240 best feeling in the world to watch and like know 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.480 all my best friends and seeing everyone and not be 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.480 a part of it. It's just I mean, obviously, I'm 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:12.760 so thankful for my time as the Bacheloria and for everything, 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.879 but it's been really nice to not have to go 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.560 through it, because it's hard. Watching back is arguably harder 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:23.280 than like, so yes, it's been nice, but I mean, 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.359 obviously I know what it's like to go through a 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.920 second time, and it usually is so much different than 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.879 the first. So I've been helping Genevieve like through it 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.840 because it is tough. So it's been nice to have 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.960 each other watching it all back. I was gonna say, 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.560 I mean, like, it's been quite a doozy on the 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:46.080 sand for everybody involved. I would say a dozy? Was 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.400 that really Minnesota? And me, I was just gonna say, 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:52.920 your Minnesota, show it and show UFTA, like, yikes, Like 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.240 there's been a lot that's been going on, and there's 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.240 you know, Beck and I were talking about earlier that 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:02.320 there's so much that is going on social media, like 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:07.239 online fights, tweeting back and forth, throwing shade, trying to 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.880 clear the air. We're like, Becca and I are over 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:14.760 here like okay, contract violation, contract violation, Like damn, you know, 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.800 how how is that? Because you know, Jenevieve and Aaron 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.000 have really kind of been going at it on Twitter 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.320 and she's gotten a lot of heat, A lot of 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.119 people have gotten heat from just viewers. How how is that? 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.400 Because I know that, you know, she's got a lot 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.760 going on with everything. Yeah, I mean it is crazy 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.159 that you guys mentioned that because I was thinking the 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.240 same thing, and I was actually telling Jenevieve that. Like 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.000 on our season, it kind of was just like what 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.280 airs airs and you don't really get to say, hey, 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.600 this happened behind the scenes. We had this conversation. We 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.040 did this. In the amount of times this season, I've 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.520 been like, wait, I'm like seeing a million different like viewpoints. 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:55.160 What's the truth, what's not I'm like getting whiplashed from everything. 0:21:55.200 --> 0:22:00.720 It's honestly, it's very mussy, very crazy. But yeah, I 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:05.719 don't know, Jenne, are you able? Are you going to tweet? 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.320 I'm gonna say, have you told her to put down 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.520 her phone when it comes to a tweet? Jenemy was 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:16.679 gonna tweet. I'm like, like, I'm like wondering what I mean. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.360 I'm as you when you're giving her advice, right, because 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.280 you've kind of been through a couple of similar situations. 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:26.840 It's like, what advice can you give her without like 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:29.639 that you actually think she'll take to heart and that 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:31.879 she'll listen to right, Like we've always told people like 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:34.920 don't go on social media, don't read the comments, don't 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.400 go on forums like whatever. No one listens to that. 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.440 So it's like, what's the best advice you're able to 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.080 give her that you feel like she's taking the heart. 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.200