1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Run from one until four after four o'clock John Cobelt 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Show on demand on the iHeart app, and if you 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: missed the first two hours, really listen to it later 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: on sometime today tonight. And because you will not believe 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in the city of Los Angeles right now. 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of this. My wife, 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: as I told you, we run all these crime apps 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: and neighborhood apps because it is completely lawless in parts 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: of West LA. The police are not around. There are 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: looters everywhere, we've seen them, there's photos and videos online, 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: there's no police presence. And now she just sent me 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: this from one of the crime apps. Large crowd forming 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: at traffic control point. The National Guard Unit are reporting 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: a large crowd forming at a traffic control point and 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: are requesting additional police assistants. The National Guards are requesting 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: it or the people are requesting it. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: I want to be surprised that people are going to 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: start taking to the streets and demand somebody do something, and. 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Then they should. I don't know what else should everybody do. 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: The fire management left people in the Palisades hanging until 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: everything burned down. 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: I can tell you first hand. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: The police are not showing up, and there's looters running 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: all over the place. 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: You know what they're doing a good job of doing. 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: They're doing a good job of blocking people who want 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: to see what's left of their homes. Do you see 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: yesterday they were letting people up to get medication or 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: close or just look at what's left of their homes. 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: They're not doing that anymore because too many people wanted 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: to see what happened to their home. Well, yeah, in 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: the Palisades, when you have five thousand people all burned 37 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: out at the same time, it might draw a crowd. 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: But you know they had a certain protocol. Five cars 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: at a time. Wow, that's a thousand trips there and back. 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: Huh. 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Five cars at a time for five thousand ten for 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: five thousand homes, which is probably fifteen thousand people. Well, 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: now none of you can see your house. 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: Too bad. We don't have enough police, we don't have 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: enough fire firemen. Oh but you know what we have. 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: We have a really large and extensive Diversity, Equity and 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: Inclusion department. Would you like a tour. It's a Carl 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Demayo on Republican California Assemblymen from the San Diego area. 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: You know, Gavin Newsom has an executive order saying we're 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: gonna cut all the red tape, ease all the regulations 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: so that people could build as rapidly as possible. Everything's 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: going to get streamlined. 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: Carl. 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: Hey, well, I'm here to say, don't believe what you 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: are hearing from Gavin Newsom in the media, because when 56 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: you take a look at the fine print in his 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: executive order, it is absolutely a political stunt. There's no 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: relief at all that is provided by the executive order. 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: He is simply restating existing law which is fatally flawed. 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: No permit relief, no timeline to rebuild will be aided 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: by the executive order. He's just doing this to pretend 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: like he gives a damn and then he's doing something 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: to provide relief. The reality is it's a political stunt. 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: We need real action, real red tape reduction, and the 65 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: only way you're going to get that is by forcing 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: politicians to change the crazy laws that they've imposed. 67 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: So when people try to rebuild in the Palisades, they're 68 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: going to run into the same bureaucratic roadblocks that they 69 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: always do. 70 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: Yes, not a single thing in the governor's executive order 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: changes the fundamental problems of the red tape and the 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: insane costly building mandates that a lot of these fire 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: victims are going to be saddled with the cost. 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: So this is a complete lie. It's fake. He's a liar. 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: I can't even I can't even sugarcoat it. Gavin Newsom 76 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: is a bald faced liar. And this guy thinks that 77 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: no one is going to figure this out. You know what, 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: the fire victims are going to figure it out when 79 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: they're sitting there. Uh, year after year delayed in their 80 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: rebuild process. 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: I do I do think after the I do think 82 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: after the fake Joe Biden call, a lot of people 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: have woken up to what he is, which he is, 84 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: bold face liar. 85 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, but but but the media yesterday ran 86 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 3: his his executive order ploy cook line and stinker uh 87 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: and gave him all sorts of credit for actually cutting 88 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: red tape when nothing nothing changed. It's just as bad 89 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: as it's ever been. 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: What what should it say? What kind of language would 91 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: make you convinced that he was serious. 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: You know what would convince me that he's serious if 93 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: he said, you know what, we're going to scrap all 94 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: of the new building regulations, the climate change Green New 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: Deal added requirements for construction, all of the permit reviews 96 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: and Coastal Commission audits and sequel project. We're going to 97 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: scrap that for any prevention for my wildland fire. So 98 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: all that means that if a project is related to 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: wildland fire, you can do it. You can do defensible space, 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: you can clear brush, you can do whatever sort of 101 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: fire breaks. But also for the rebuild process, apply those 102 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: same standards so that if someone wants to rebuild, that 103 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: they're able to get things done. Finally, the Executive Order 104 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: should do what Pete Wilson did in the LA earthquakes. 105 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: He should say every project has to get done by 106 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: a date certain or there's going to be a financial penalty. 107 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: Need for the government agency that has the oversight. You've 108 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 3: got to force these politicians and the government bureaucrats to 109 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: have skin in the game, or it's the poor fire 110 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: victims that are going to be left shouldering the burden. 111 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: Does every everyone else in Sacramento, all the representatives, their staff, 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: do they instantly know what you're saying, that this is 113 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: fam No. 114 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: I walked into a meeting today and they said, well, 115 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: at least the governor did this. And I said, excuse me, 116 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: Nothing in this executive order changes the thing. And I 117 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: had the staff come in and the Professional Committee staff. 118 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: I said, can you show me anything in this executive 119 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: order that makes any change other than what's already in 120 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: existing law. And they said nothing, there's no there's no change. 121 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: And so if we want real relief, we've got to 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: force the legislature to get brass taxed, to put pen 123 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: to paper. None of them, you know what they would 124 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: you benefit from? They would benefit from having construction companies, 125 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: construction guys come up to the capital and lecture them, 126 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: educate them on the insanity of California building codes. They 127 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: would have a lot more benefit in getting some land 128 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: use attorneys up there who have to sue the Coastal Commission, 129 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: you know, and are charging an arm and a leg 130 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: for legal fees for their clients, to have them come 131 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: up and say, you know what, these are the things 132 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: that we have to deal with day and day out 133 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: for rebuilds. And you know what, every single one of 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: those delays and costly requirements. They should be set aside 135 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: for these fire victims. We need to make them whole. 136 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: The other thing that we did today is we demanded 137 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: that Newsom call a special session to focus just on 138 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: fire recovery and fire mitigation. Just moments ago, my office 139 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: learned that the governor isn't calling a new special session. 140 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: He's going to amend the existing session he says, to 141 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: deal with wild land fire and fire rebuilt efforts. We'll see, 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: because this guy again says one thing publicly and then 143 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: of course doesn't do it. I'm also asking President Trump. 144 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: I just sent a letter out to the President's transition 145 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: team as new appointees that should be in office as 146 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: early as next week, asking for a federal investigation of 147 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: failures by state and local officials on the Los Angeles fires. 148 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: I don't trust Newsom, I don't trust LA Mayor Karen bass. 149 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: I don't trust any of these people to investigate themselves, 150 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: nor should any citizen of Los Angeles. 151 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: No, they were have all the fire assets, all the 152 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: resources were prepositioned ready to go. 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: Don't worry, and I trust them to be honest about 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: who failed. You know, who's responsible. The only guy that's 155 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: going to be able to do that, and he's got 156 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: a lot of motivation for doing it because he he 157 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: it's not like he likes these guys. The only person 158 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: who can do that Donald Trump. Can you imagine the 159 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: irony of politicians saying that we need to protect Californias 160 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: from Trump, only to find out that the only way 161 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: we're going to get to the bottom of some of 162 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: these questions is to get Donald Trump to order federal 163 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 3: agencies come in and put their boot up the rear 164 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: end of these agencies locally and get the answers. And 165 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: you know what, I believe that not only is it 166 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: a failure of negligence, I believe that some of this 167 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: may rise to criminal misconduct given the egregious nature of 168 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: their failings. 169 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, I got one more minute. Do you believe that. 170 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: That that that one hundred and seventeen million gallon reservoir 171 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: was empty, bone dry, empty, not a drop of water 172 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: in it because they were supposed to fix the cover 173 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: in a month last February, and eleven months later it's 174 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: not fixed and one hundred and seventeen million gallons was 175 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: missing for the fire department. 176 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: Do you even believe that that's possible. 177 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: Oh no, of course, with the incompetence of state law 178 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: politicians out here, I believe if I'm not surprised. But 179 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: here's the thing. Someone needs to be fired over this, 180 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: and I actually think it should be starting with the mayor. 181 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 3: And I think ultimately Governor Gavin Newsom is in over 182 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: his head. The guy wants to cover up the real 183 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: issues here rather than solve them, and that means he's 184 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: unfit to retain office. We need to throw these again, 185 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: I almost said a bad word on air. We need 186 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: to throw these bumps out of office. They need to 187 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: lose their jobs over this, because people have lost their 188 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: homes and their lives over their incompetence. 189 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: Gotta go, Carl. We'll talk again soon. Karl Demaiyah, the 190 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: Republican state representative. Some of themen from the San Diego area, 191 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: thank you once again. 192 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: We come back. I'll finally get to the La Times. 193 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: We even have audio this a retraction, a retraction from 194 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: the publisher regarding Karen Bass. 195 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: We'll play you that next. 196 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: We're also going to get into the possible cause of 197 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: the Palisades fire. We told you all afternoon about the 198 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: empty reservoir. But what started the fire. There's a story there. 199 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: Don't know if it's real yet, but everybody's reporting on it. 200 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 201 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: six forty. 202 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: In just a minute, the origin of the Palisades fire. 203 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: Here's one possibility, not definitive. Washington Post had the first 204 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: extensive story last night about it, and it has to 205 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: do with an earlier fire on New Year's Eve in 206 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: the early morning hours of January. 207 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 2: First. We'll get to that in a minute. 208 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: But I got to play this here because Patrick Soon Cheang, 209 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: the owner of the La Times. First time I've ever 210 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: heard of anything like this, he went on, I guess 211 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: it's a podcast called The Morning Meeting with Mark Halper 212 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: and Sean Spicer and Dan Tarantine. This is Patrick Soon 213 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: Cheong admitting to a mistake involving Karen Bass. 214 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 5: First of all, we'll accept comblain right, So at the 215 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 5: early Times we endorse Karen Bass. I think right now 216 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 5: in front, that's a mistake and we admit that. So 217 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 5: I thought it was very early important early on for 218 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 5: me to come out, and I think we were one 219 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: of the few to say competence matters but maybe twenty 220 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 5: twenty three million views to show how that was really 221 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: due to the heart of most people, whether you right 222 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 5: or left. And it's the interesting thing is that maybe 223 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: we should think about how we elect people on the 224 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 5: basis of did they actually run a job, did they 225 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 5: actually make a payroll? Do they understand what it is? 226 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 5: And rather than having professional politicians whose only job is 227 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 5: ready to run for office. There's nothing I'm trying to 228 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 5: be disparaging, but I think we at the stage now 229 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 5: of the nation and the world. There's many things we'll 230 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 5: talk about in healthcare that you really need people to understand, well, 231 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 5: how to fix a man in the street, you know, 232 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 5: how it fects the working type of person. And I 233 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: think President Trump in this election has understood that and 234 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: he's become truly a publican party. She said, He's become 235 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 5: the democratic body in terms of the addressing the problems 236 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 5: of the man in the street. So competence absolutely matters, 237 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 5: and I'm glad that that's been taken up as almost 238 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 5: a meme now that competence matters. 239 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: Competence matters. Isn't that shocking? 240 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that in about ten years, Huh, since 241 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: the walk movement took over. Competence matters. Yeah, so he's 242 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: retracting the endorsement of Karen Bass. He's embarrassed by it. Well, 243 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: what does this look like? Oh, I should go find 244 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: the editorial race. If you can find the old editorial 245 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: when Times endorsed Karen Bass, I bet you there's big 246 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: laughs in it. 247 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 2: Now he's embarrassed. 248 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: He runs the only major newspaper in the city of 249 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and I guess there's some people who looked 250 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: to endorsements. 251 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, but do you think. 252 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Rick Caruso would have left that one hundred and seventeen 253 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: million gallon reservoir empty for eleven months? 254 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: Do you think he would have? 255 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: Some people criticizing Caruso because he hired a private firefighting 256 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: unit to protect his shopping center in Pacific Palisades. When 257 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: I heard that, you know, I thought good, he made 258 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: a quick decision, he spent the money, and they executed 259 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: their job and protected that shopping center. That's exactly what 260 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: he should do. That's what I would have done. The money, 261 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: that's what you would have done. And by the way, 262 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: whatever money he's got nothing compared to the amount of 263 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: money Karen Bass has her hands on well, City of 264 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles budget is way more than Rick Caruso's net worth. 265 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: So how come Karen Bass did make quick decisions in 266 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: her two years to fully fund the LA Fire Department. 267 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: There are hundreds and hundreds of firefighters short. They're at 268 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: least sixty two fire stations short. I heard Gigi Grascia 269 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:45,359 Speaker 1: today on with Neil Sevagra and marlteis that by some measure. 270 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: LA supposed it. 271 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Well, the recommendations are that a city like LA should 272 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: have one point eight firefighters per x amount of population. 273 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: We have zero point nine. We have half the firefighting 274 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: staff that we're supposed to have. 275 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: Half. 276 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: I think that would have you think under a CARUSA 277 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: that would happen. I'm sure we have our quota of diversity, 278 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: equity and inclusion bureaucrats though. Oh here it is the 279 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: LA Times endorsement Karen Bass for Los Angeles mayor just 280 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: printed out. I don't know what this says. October thirteenth, 281 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. For those of you who look at 282 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: editorial boards for your political decisions, Los Angeles desperately needs 283 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: and will soon get new leadership. Oh right, right, they're 284 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: replacing Garcetti. The Times also endorsed Garcetti. No elected office 285 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: is more important than mayor. This is the person Angelino's 286 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: will look to in a crisis. Yes we did. We 287 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: looked at Karen Bass in a crisis, and she was 288 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: in Africa. Who can set the tone of the political discourse? Oooh, 289 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: you know what the tone of political discourse was. She 290 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't answer questions for a minute and a half walking 291 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: out of the plane. You got that clip again. Yeah, 292 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: you want to hear Karen Bass is setting the tone 293 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: of political discord discourse. 294 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 295 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: You know this is just like the tape because she 296 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: didn't say anything. She provided total silence too. Hold the 297 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: tape for now. It's never an easy job, says The Times, 298 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: but this is an especially challenging moment for LA's next mayor. 299 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: The public feels pessimistic and angry. Oh this was in 300 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. 301 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: Huh. 302 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: There is frustration over homelessness policy eight. Still is fear 303 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: about rising crime rates. Oh, we got tons of looters 304 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: on the West Side. Everybody that Gascone would not put 305 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: in jail, at everybody that Bass and Garcetti let run 306 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: them up, running all over the place, and now an 307 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: ugly scandal is Rock City Hall and has damaged decades 308 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: of hard fork progress and building racial solidarity. Oh, for 309 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: God's sakes, with irracial solidarity, fill the fing reservoir. 310 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: Stop this. 311 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: This is a time and job that costs for the 312 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: skills of Karen Bass, who spent their career working to 313 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: bring people together, bridge racial divides and work for the 314 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: betterment of communities. They didn't add that she's not going 315 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: to fund the fire department properly, she's not going to 316 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: hire the firefighters, she's not going to open the fire stations, 317 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: and she's not going to fill the Palisades Reservoir. So 318 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: there's about fifteen thousand of you in the Palisades. You're 319 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: going to lose your homes. Wasn't mentioned in the endorsement. 320 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Then they carry on about that stupid tape that Newi 321 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: Martinez and Kevin de Theon was on. Remember when they 322 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: carried on about that for days and weeks. That was 323 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: the La Times finest journalistic moment in twenty twenty two. 324 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: Where is the store? 325 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: Worry about the underfunded, understaffed fire department in the empty reservoir? 326 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Can't go on? I want to throw up. All right, 327 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: we got to take a break. We come back. All right, 328 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: we'll get the origin of the Palisades fire. Recording this 329 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Washington Post story. Nobody knows it's if it's definitive, it's 330 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: certainly suspicious. 331 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am. 332 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: Six forty on from one until four. 333 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: What we had a really powerful program today, So if 334 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: you missed it, iHeartRadio app posted after four o'clock John 335 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Cobelt Show on demand Moistline eight seven seven moist eighty six. 336 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Shouldn't just be me yelling eight seven seven moist eighty 337 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: six or the talkback feature on the iHeart app and 338 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: you can tell the world what you think. We'll play 339 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: it on Friday twice. Up to one hundred twenty seven 340 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: six hundred ninety five signatures change dot org demanding the 341 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: immediate resignation of Karen Bass. Let's not go through the 342 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: expense and the time of a recall. Lets everybody demand 343 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: that she leave now. I think the case is absolute, irrefutable. 344 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: She is a disaster as mayor. That one hundred and 345 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: seventeen million gallon reservoir that was left empty for the 346 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: last eleven months and that DWP Looney tune Genie Keinonyez gone, 347 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: and also get rid of that deputy chief as well. 348 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: Let's get her name, Christine Larson if you haven't heard 349 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: that clip, she's all for a diversity and equity in 350 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: the fire department. And as far as women not being 351 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: strong enough, Hey, if you're a man and I can't 352 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: lift you out of a burning house, well I guess 353 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: you were in the wrong place. That really was her response. 354 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: You know that's a weird thing. Is there comfortable saying 355 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: this out loud to a television camera and have it broadcast? 356 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 2: All right? 357 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: The origin of the Palisades fire not definitive, lengthy story 358 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: in the Washington Post. It's by four writers here, and 359 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: they say that a half hour after the Palisades fire started, 360 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: that's when firefighters radios started crackling. The flames were coming 361 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: from a familiar place on the mountain ridge. Because this 362 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: was on January seventh, a week earlier, on January first, 363 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: it was New Year's Eve past midnight, and there was 364 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: another fire in the same spot. Post reviewed radio transmissions 365 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: and a firefighter La County said the foot of the 366 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: fire started real close to where the last fire was 367 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve. Looks like it's going to make 368 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: a good run, said another. So the Post analyzed photos, videos, 369 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: satellite images, radio communications, interviewed witnesses, and they have evidence 370 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: that the Policy's fire started in the area where the 371 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: other fire had been a week earlier. 372 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: They had to use helicopters. 373 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: They batt up that fire for four hours, so they're 374 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: looking at the burn scar looking for evidence. The first 375 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: fire was probably kids shooting off fireworks up on the ridge, 376 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: and then when the winds started blowing last Tuesday, the 377 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: fire was reignited, which can occur because fires are never 378 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: completely out for a number of weeks. They're still hot, 379 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: they're still smoldering, there's still some activity going on. Residents 380 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: told the Post and investigators that the firefighters response on 381 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: Tuesday of the seventh was much slower than on New 382 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: Year's Eve. This is what we talked about earlier in 383 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: the show. A you confirmed by radio transmissions. That's going 384 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: to be another big investigation. Why was the reservoir left 385 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: dry for eleven months? Why was the response so slow 386 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: this past summer. According to the Post, California officials coordinated 387 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: a social media campaign oh to warn residents that land scorched, 388 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: seemingly extinguished fire can spawn deadly new fires for weeks 389 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: after the old ones. Well, what are you telling the 390 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: public for six months earlier? Nobody stops to read that stuff. 391 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: They're not going to remember it, and what does it matter? 392 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: After midnight on New Year's Eve, everybody's drunk passed out 393 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: in bed. It's the firefighters who ought to be aware 394 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: of that. What are we gonna do. 395 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: On New Year's Eve? Who knew that? This is what 396 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: I mean? 397 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand putting got a social media message six 398 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: months before? How's that gonna help? That's what we pay 399 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: the government to do. But the department admitted they don't 400 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: patrol past fire sites, even for a few days after 401 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: the fire goes out. Michael goner is a professor fire 402 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: scientist at UC Berkeley. He looked at the post's materials, 403 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: and Gaulner says, we know that fires rekindle and transition 404 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: from smoldering to flaming. It's certainly possible that something from 405 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: that previous fire within a week had rekindled and caused 406 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: the ignition. This is out of post identified the burn scar. 407 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: They used what they call false color satellite imagery and 408 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: attracts changes to vegetation. Healthy plants appear red, scorched ground 409 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: appears blue to brown, and the satellite imagery taken Tuesday 410 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: at ten forty five, twenty minutes after the fire began, 411 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: indicates the origin of the smoke overlapped with the burn 412 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: scar from the New Year's Eve fire. Here's some of 413 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: the witnesses. Darren Hurwitz lived in the area. He was 414 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: hiking around nine am near Skull Rock at the base 415 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: of the burn scar, and he faintly smelled smoke, but 416 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: it disappeared as he walked down the trail. Another resident, 417 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 1: who was cleaning ash out of his home, told a 418 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: Post reporter and an ATF officer that the disaster was 419 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: started by idiots on New Year's Eve. It happens every year. Jesus, 420 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: maybe we should have somebody patrolling on New Year's Eve. 421 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 3: That it. 422 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: Cost money. 423 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: People go up at night and party when they're not 424 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: supposed to. His family heard fireworks popping off and a 425 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: fire had started on New Year's Eve night about twelve 426 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: twenty am. He said, you got to know better. It's dry, 427 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: there's no precipitation. I don't know if you've ever been camping, 428 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: But when you go camping and put a fire out, 429 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's not hot below. Then the Santannas 430 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: came on Monday, and that's when it started. That's what 431 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: reignited the fire. After midnight January first, firefighters responded to 432 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: the fire and covered three to four acres of heavy brush, 433 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: slow rate of spread, winds were light, but even with 434 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: almost ideal conditions, it took about four hours to contain 435 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: the blaze until quarter to five in the morning. Another 436 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: professor at Syracuse had published a paper in twenty eighteen 437 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: indicating a fire could smolder up for ten days before 438 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: being reignited. So again, shouldn't we have the fire department 439 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: going out to look, especially at the Santa Ana windsor 440 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: blowing in a place where there was a previous fire, 441 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: and they know that it could reignite within ten days? 442 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 2: Isn't that on the two do list? Now listen to this. 443 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: When I come back, I'll tell you about the comparison 444 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: between the firefighters showing up for the New Year's Eve 445 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: fire and firefighters showing up for the second fire on 446 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: January seventh, night and day completely different. Why because on 447 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, there was no extreme fire danger warning, 448 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: but there was on January seventh. They were very quick 449 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: to respond on January first, but very slow on January seventh. 450 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: Why is that? 451 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: And again I'm focusing this on the management here, not 452 00:27:53,520 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: the firefighters. Firefighters did spectacular job, watching them all all 453 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: weekend on my iPad because we're powerless in our house. 454 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: All right, I'll give you part two of this story 455 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: coming up. 456 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI AM 457 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: sixty Conway. 458 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 2: Coming up after four o'clock. 459 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: We're telling you the story of how the Palalasades fire 460 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: may have started. It's not definitive, but the Washington Post 461 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: put together a lot of evidence. They analyzed radio transmissions, 462 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: talk to witnesses, looked at satellite imagery and they and 463 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: videos as well and photos, and they found that there 464 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: was another fire in the same spot as the January 465 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: seventh fire starting the Palisades on late on New Year's 466 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: Eve twelve twenty in the morning January first, took over 467 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: four hours to put out, and it was teenagers had 468 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: shot off fireworks and it had caused a fire, and 469 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: that the fire may have very subtly been smoldering for 470 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: a week. Sant Ana Winz started to blow and it reignited, 471 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: which happens. 472 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: Again. Not definitive. 473 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: And as I said at the end of the segment, 474 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: I saw the firefighters in action over the weekend. They 475 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: do spectacular They do spectacularly, but there's something about the 476 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: management and the direction. And I will tell you what 477 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: the Washington Post has found. Let's see what you think 478 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: we get this right. Michael Valentine owns two homes in 479 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: the neighbor in the neighborhood right by the fire's origin, 480 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: and he was home for both blazes. The response for 481 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: the New Year's incident was swift and impress he said. 482 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: Sirens blared up the street. Firefighters jumped out of their 483 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: trucks and made their way through the thick brush, breaking 484 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: down his gate, attacking the fire with hoses and hand crews, 485 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: and men coming in these tractor vans to do a 486 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: perimeter cut to a week later, Michael Valentine and his 487 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: wife were on the hill walking their dog and saw 488 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: a huge plume of smoke fanned by the wind. She 489 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: thinks she was one of the first people to call 490 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: nine one to one. He also called because half our 491 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: ladies saw more smoke coming from the same place. Line 492 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: was busy and he waited, and according to radio traffic, 493 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: fire crews were almost at the same time responding to 494 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: two other incidents in other parts of the city, and 495 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: they both said they would send resources when they could. 496 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Now we're up to ten thirty three, and the firefighter said, yeah, 497 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: cameras showing smoke, showing smoke from the second brush fire 498 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: and Palisades were going to divert. A few minutes later, 499 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: they were fighting a small brush fire in West Hollywood 500 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: and a crew said, we're working real hard to spare 501 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: as many resources as we can. Valentine says the fire 502 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: was ripping about forty five minutes when he saw a helicopter. 503 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: Go over, but it didn't have water. For ten more minutes. 504 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: A firefighters called back and forth asking who was responding, 505 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: who was on the scene, LA from City Fire forward, 506 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: you have ground resources up at the Palisades fire for 507 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: LA stand by. 508 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: We're still showing en route. This is an hour later. Now. 509 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: If everything was prepositioned, we had extreme fire warnings from 510 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: the National Weather Service, Obviously the Palisades would be a 511 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: prime target because of the dry brush in the Hills 512 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: at ten forty eight. Now this is an hour after 513 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: the fire had started. Currently it's a ten acre brush fire, 514 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: heavy fuel on top of a ridge, wal said an 515 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: official ten forty eight. It's one hundred percent in alignment 516 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: with the wind. It has the potential for a few 517 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: hundred plus acres in the next twenty minutes. We have 518 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: a potential for structures being threatened in the next twenty minutes. 519 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: But radio traffic records show that the fire trucks were 520 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: still in route to the fire twenty five minutes after 521 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: it ignited. For the longest time, said Michael Valentine. I 522 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: didn't see any police, any firefighters, not on the ground 523 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: or in the air. I was disappointed because the second 524 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: fire was moving so fast and there was no one there. 525 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: Remember first fire moving slowly, They were there right away. 526 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: Second fire. He's standing outside eleven thirty eleven forty five, 527 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: eleven forty five. He saw the first fire trucks drive 528 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: up to his neighborhood. Now we're talking about an hour 529 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: and a half since nine one one was called. It's 530 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: an hour and a half later when Valentine saw the 531 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: first trucks, But they took a look at the street 532 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: and made a U turn and left because the fire 533 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: extended into the hillside and traveling. According to radio traffic, 534 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: first responders arrived in the palisade shortly before eleven am, 535 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: and we're focused on the foot of the fire and 536 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: your palisades drive. By five o'clock, the fire spurred by 537 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: wind driven embers. They were traveling up to two miles away. 538 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: They had spread across most of the community. It got 539 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: out of control, reel real quick, he said. And story 540 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: goes on quite a bit from there, but you get 541 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: the idea. For some reason, I don't know who's in 542 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: charge of dispatching, management direction, very very slow response for 543 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: that second fire conways here and. 544 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: Phil Schuman is on with us to that. Phil Schuman, Yeah, 545 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: guys will give. 546 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 6: Us, like the news perspective of what's going on here 547 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 6: with these fires. All right, this guy knows, man, he's unbelievable. 548 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: Let me flip your I just know if we can 549 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: take more, yeah, I know, I know. 550 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 6: You know a lot of people are like, hey, I 551 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 6: can't take any more you know, video or footage of this, 552 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 6: but you. 553 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: Got to take it. You got to take it. Oh yeah, And. 554 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 6: The reason why, you know, the news guys and gals 555 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 6: are out there is to get more FEMA money, get 556 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 6: more federal money, get more state, city, local and county money. 557 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: Rolling. 558 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: That's how you do it. You show people what a 559 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: disaster it is. Yeah, but people only believe something when 560 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: they see it. 561 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: That's right. 562 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what the world we live in. James Brotherton's 563 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 6: calling in from the National Weather Service. We also have 564 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 6: a public information officer from the Palisades Fire, David Howard, 565 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 6: who who works here Burg. 566 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: Talked with him earlier. Unbelievable. It's really sad. 567 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and. 568 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 6: I don't know another state where the the hydrants run 569 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 6: out of water. 570 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: I've never heard of that before. 571 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: There's so many things that are preposterous about this. And 572 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: I know some people think, oh, it's too soon. No, 573 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: it's not too soon. This is when everyone's paying attention. 574 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: This is whenever. You know, in a few weeks, people 575 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: are not going to pay attention anymore. It's going to 576 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: be an old story. So they now is when you 577 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: when you when you get the information, the truth out 578 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: as to what happened. 579 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 4: Right. 580 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 6: Have you seen the Santa Anita parking lot? I mean, yeah, 581 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 6: it's film it's overwhelmed with you know, people donating stuff. 582 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 6: My wife and daughter, God love them, man, I mean, 583 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 6: much much bigger hearts than I got. They went through 584 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 6: their closet and they took all this stuff they don't wear, 585 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 6: and stuff that doesn't fit anymore, and stuff that they 586 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 6: think will you know, be helpful as other families, and 587 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 6: they put it into five huge bags, mostly Christmas gifts 588 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 6: from dad. You know, if that's not really a hip 589 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 6: to the quip on what's fashionable nowadays? 590 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: Right, and well, nobody's gonna want your your button down shirt. 591 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 6: That's not true, John, I'm putting them up on for 592 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 6: raise the money on these shirts to give to people. 593 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 6: So they took I'll tell you the story of donating clothes. 594 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 6: It's a nightmare in La. It's really it's it's nobody 595 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 6: wants them. Nobody wants them. You mean, before this, nobody 596 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 6: wants it. No, No, this This past weekend Saturday and Sunday, 597 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 6: they took them to seven different places. They all said no, 598 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 6: all of them because they had enough. They had too 599 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 6: many clothes, Oh, too much clothing. And I thought, I'm 600 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 6: thinking they just don't like your shirts. No, it's not 601 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 6: my clothes, John. If you listen carefully, it's my daughter. 602 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: My wife. All right. 603 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: Conway is next, and Phil Showman and we got Michael 604 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: Krouscher live in the CAMFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, 605 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 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