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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Professor Penn Podcast. David Pen, your host.

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Speaker 3: Glad to be with you as always for this episode

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Speaker 3: number two fifty seven, coming to you on Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: the twentieth and November, seven pm Central Standard time. Glad

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Speaker 3: I'm very glad you're here. We as soon as we

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Speaker 3: All right? So where did we leave off? We were

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Speaker 5: I got a nine pointer on Sunday. Well, let me

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Speaker 3: So I have to ask a question because I don't

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Speaker 3: You're in the caucus in the legislature, there's a lot

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Speaker 5: And I've thought about that because Comrade Walls recently was

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Speaker 3: Do you have a well, yes we do, of course

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Speaker 3: Oh, you have your own cattle too, We do, see

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Speaker 3: We've we've lost that in the cities. Now, you know

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Speaker 3: You're gonna like this because we were there together when

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Speaker 5: That line that he used that evening, we're not far right,

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Speaker 3: Well, we need some hook lines to make our ideology,

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Speaker 3: our philosophy more accessible to people, because people and you know,

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Speaker 3: if you think about Royce, you go one step farther

436
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Speaker 3: right than Russian word end up, Nick Fuentes. So you know,

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Speaker 3: we as Republicans have got to take a look at

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Speaker 3: where the party is at, where the people are at,

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Speaker 3: where the base is at, and understand the fragmentation that's

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Speaker 3: going on in the party, which I think is a

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Speaker 3: great subject to transition into. If we're done talking about

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Speaker 3: hunting and fishing something really important.

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Speaker 4: I could talk about it all day, but let's move on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we should move on.

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Speaker 3: Are you Are you a fit? Do you fish too? Ten?

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Speaker 6: I don't fish as much as I should, but I

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Speaker 6: enjoy ice fishing. Ice fishing was a huge thing in

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Speaker 6: my family.

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Speaker 3: There was a dude up at that deal in Park

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Speaker 3: Rappids that hand me his business card and he said

451
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Speaker 3: it was something like, if you don't have time to

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Speaker 3: go fishing, you're screwed up. You know. He owned a

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Speaker 3: bait shopping there. It was cool and I'm while I'm

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Speaker 3: dwelling on this park Rabbit still where I ran into you.

455
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Speaker 3: That's like a three and a half hour drive for me.

456
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Speaker 3: We're going all over the state to organize the state.

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Speaker 3: And I did say to you, I have certain freedoms

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Speaker 3: in my role that you don't have in your role.

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Speaker 3: And what we're really you talk about two hudred and

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Speaker 3: fifty seven episodes. I would like to create unity in

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Speaker 3: the Republican Party and that's what we talked about up

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Speaker 3: in Park Rapids. You had a I mean, you gave

463
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Speaker 3: me a very passionate monologue about the party, and I

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Speaker 3: want to talk about that because I think what you're

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Speaker 3: saying is critical and very important.

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Speaker 5: Well, when we talk about the upcoming state wide races

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, and I've used the term unit team

468
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Speaker 5: many times, where we've got to work together, We've got

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Speaker 5: to come together, and people say, well, how can you unify?

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Speaker 5: How can you you know, in the Republican Party we

471
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Speaker 5: have different points of view. Absolutely, we do.

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Speaker 3: That's great, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: That's not a bad thing. I don't get along with

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Speaker 5: my wife about everything. That's human nature, right, we don't

475
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Speaker 5: always agree on everything. But what do we have to

476
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Speaker 5: do in the state of Minnesota, Because the flip side

477
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Speaker 5: of this, to me is very bad. The flip side

478
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Speaker 5: of we don't come together, if we don't unify behind

479
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Speaker 5: a candidate, is we give the Democrats this state again

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Speaker 5: and potentially a trifecta again. That is frightening to me

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Speaker 5: seeing how far they went.

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Speaker 3: In twenty three twenty four. Yes, and you were there,

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Speaker 3: you watched it.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, we were basically excluded from almost everything. We had

485
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Speaker 5: no say in any of the legislation. And people have said, well,

486
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Speaker 5: you got to work across the aisle. How come you

487
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Speaker 5: guys can't work with the Democrats? And how come Democrats

488
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Speaker 5: can't work with Republicans? And that question came up in

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Speaker 5: Wadena when we were doing kind of a legislative update

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Speaker 5: and a reporter made the comment, you know, how come

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Speaker 5: you guys can't do this? I said, let's look at

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Speaker 5: the numbers. When the Democrats had the trifecta. Out of

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Speaker 5: all of the bills they passed, which was fourteen hundred

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Speaker 5: page omnibus bill both sides, So that's basically twenty eight

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Speaker 5: hundred pages on one side. Do you know the number

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Speaker 5: of bills that were actually Republican bills? And that that

497
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Speaker 5: whole conglomeration about ten percent. Okay, that's it. So while

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Speaker 5: they held the trifecta with a marginal win, they governed

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Speaker 5: like they controlled everything in the state.

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Speaker 3: Well they did control it, actually, well, I mean they were,

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Speaker 3: so proof is in the pudding.

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Speaker 5: So here's what happens. If you give them the trifecta again,

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Speaker 5: they will only double down on those same programs. They

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Speaker 5: will only double down on more spending, on the tax

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Speaker 5: and spend. That's why we can't afford that. That's why

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Speaker 5: we can't afford not to come together, and how do

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Speaker 5: we do this well?

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Speaker 3: How do we do this?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: Then please just let me start. Please give me I

511
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Speaker 3: gotta cueue this up, all right, because it's a It's

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Speaker 3: very illustrative of where I think the problem is. Because

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Speaker 3: when you talk to the what Royce calls that, well,

514
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Speaker 3: he got it from me. I call it the constabulary.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the entrenched leadership statewide in all the

516
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Speaker 3: BPO used at the center of the party. There's an

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Speaker 3: ideology there. And when I entered the party, I entered

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, I was as experienced as I

519
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Speaker 3: am in life. I came into politics like a baby,

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Speaker 3: and I did it on.

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Speaker 5: Purpose myself as well.

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Speaker 3: But you know why I did it. I mean I

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Speaker 3: did it because I am not going to let anybody

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Speaker 3: tell me how to judge. I'm not going to prejudge people.

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Speaker 3: I Am not going to put my bias upon someone

526
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Speaker 3: until they tell me who they are. And I came

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Speaker 3: in the party to serve the party. I didn't I

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Speaker 3: knew there was divisions and problems. I didn't pay attention

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Speaker 3: to him. I thought, hey, we're all Republicans, you're going

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Speaker 3: to like this. We're all Republicans and we have differences,

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Speaker 3: and let's search for truth together by having open forms.

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Speaker 3: And obviously you're sitting in the house that was built

533
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Speaker 3: out of this. I started a thing that I called

534
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Speaker 3: the master Classes. I don't think we've talked about this,

535
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Speaker 3: and I was doing it in CD three at the

536
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Speaker 3: Wisetta Central Middle School and we did it every month.

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Speaker 3: And I was doing it with a associate of mind,

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Speaker 3: a man named Dave Kylo, who was at the time

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Speaker 3: was the chair of forty two Senate District forty two.

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Speaker 3: And I came to this idea. He was my first boss,

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Speaker 3: so to speak. I was a vice chair and I

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Speaker 3: gave him this idea and I said, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: go do this. He said, what do you mean you're

544
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Speaker 3: going to go do this. I said, I'm just going

545
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Speaker 3: to go do this. I'm paying for it. I'm going

546
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Speaker 3: to go do it. He said, you can't do that.

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Speaker 3: I said, what do you mean, Dave? He said, you

548
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Speaker 3: are an officer of the Republican Party of Minnesota. You

549
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Speaker 3: don't just go off and do things. You need to

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Speaker 3: go to Randy Sutter, the executive of CD three executive chair,

551
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Speaker 3: and you need to ask him if it's okay with

552
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Speaker 3: the district, and will the district support it. So I

553
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: went made a presentation at a CD three executive committee meeting.

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Speaker 3: Randy looked at me and said, okay, here are my conditions.

555
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Speaker 3: Number one, we're not paying for it. Number two, you

556
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Speaker 3: can never talk about election integrity ever. And if you'll

557
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Speaker 3: pay for it and agree never to talk about election integrity,

558
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Speaker 3: CD three will promote it and will support it. And

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Speaker 3: I said, thank you very much, Hutter, and I started

560
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Speaker 3: and after about I don't know three or four of

561
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Speaker 3: when we were starting to get a lot of people

562
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Speaker 3: coming in because you know, I've got some skills. And

563
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Speaker 3: then Randy started showing up. He ignored it until he

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Speaker 3: heard it was working. Then he started showing up. And

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Speaker 3: what he did was is he infiltrated it and took

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Speaker 3: it over and shut it down. And I was very

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Speaker 3: unhappy about that, and I said, dude. I didn't call

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Speaker 3: him dude in my mind, dude, No, I was. I

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Speaker 3: get along good with Randy on a personal basis. He

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Speaker 3: always treated me with respect. We don't agree, but we

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Speaker 3: were respectful with each other. And he's left the state now.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he's not one of the Republicans that

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Speaker 3: have moved away. Let's get a little too intense here.

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Speaker 3: But when he was a chair he came to me

575
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Speaker 3: and he said, number one, from chairman hand, we don't

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Speaker 3: like that there's people mixing from the different districts. Stay

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Speaker 3: in your lane. And number two, why are you doing this?

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Speaker 3: I said, well, I'm trying to get more Republicans into

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Speaker 3: the party. And here was his answer. We don't need

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Speaker 3: more Republicans, we just need more work from the Republicans

581
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Speaker 3: that we have. So this is the idea. And I

582
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Speaker 3: don't want to say that radicalized me, but I was

583
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Speaker 3: already podcasted and I started calling Randy, mister, we don't

584
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Speaker 3: need any more Republicans, and that is one hundred eighty

585
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Speaker 3: degrees different for where I'm coming from. I think we

586
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Speaker 3: need a lot more Republicans in the party. So I'm

587
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Speaker 3: going to set up this conversation about Unity's saying I

588
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: was gum dipped to unify, and the people in the

589
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Speaker 3: party that control the party identified me as got some skills.

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Speaker 3: The words started going to he's very ambitious, it's all

591
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Speaker 3: about himself. You know that, A whisper campaign started. People

592
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Speaker 3: started talking ill of me, that I never met before.

593
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Speaker 3: I walked up to a state Central Committee meeting one

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Speaker 3: time to register and I was talking to someone looking

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Speaker 3: over my right shoulder, and I hear David Penn. I

596
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Speaker 3: looked over. I said, ma'am, do I know you? She

597
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Speaker 3: goes no. I said, well, you obviously know me. May

598
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Speaker 3: ask your name, being super friendly. She goes, I'm Mary AmLaw.

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Speaker 3: I said, Mary AmLaw. You're the woman that's running around

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Speaker 3: all over the state talking ill of me. Could we

601
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Speaker 3: go out for coffee? I will never have coffee with you,

602
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Speaker 3: she said to me. So when you talk about unity,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you directly from my heart, I'm

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Speaker 3: all about unity. It's in my opinion. It's not me.

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Speaker 3: Some people don't want any criticism, they don't want any feedback. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know what I say to that, get out of politics.

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Speaker 3: This is a rough and tumble experience. And if you

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Speaker 3: can't take the citizens like me coming forward with some critiques,

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Speaker 3: you know, what are we doing? And we're running the

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Speaker 3: American Nazi Party. You know we're about You just said

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Speaker 3: we don't agree with each other, and it's cool. I

612
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Speaker 3: think you just said you and your wife don't agree

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Speaker 3: about everything.

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Speaker 5: Right, we don't.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to start this conversation with unity, saying

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Speaker 3: I want to unify. I have people on this podcast

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Speaker 3: all the time that there's a wing in the party.

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Speaker 3: They don't like them. I want to unify. I want

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Speaker 3: everyone to respect each other, tumble it out, and find

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Speaker 3: a way to defeat the communists. So that's my preamble

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Speaker 3: road this winter season.

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Speaker 5: So, as you know, and your listeners probably know, I

628
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Speaker 5: like history, and there was division with our founding fathers.

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Speaker 5: There was division in the Thirteen Colonies. This was not

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Speaker 5: a cohesive group because what is one of the sayings

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Speaker 5: that they had We have to hang together or we

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Speaker 5: will certainly hang separately. That's what we're at in the

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Speaker 5: Republican Party right now.

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Speaker 3: That'd be another great T shirt, wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: That would that'd be an absolutely great one. They knew

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Speaker 5: when you signed that declaration of independence that was a

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Speaker 5: death sentence you everything, and that was treason to the government,

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Speaker 5: to the British crown. That was a death sumthing.

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Speaker 3: Can I just have a sidebar just to hold your

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Speaker 3: thought please. That's just from there. Is a new group

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Speaker 3: spaces every Thursday and at seven pm called Minnesota Speaks.

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Speaker 3: Hundreds of citizens are going to this. One of the

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Speaker 3: key drivers of that, his name is Josiah Bartlett, and

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Speaker 3: that was one of these signers of the Declaration of Independence.

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Speaker 3: His ancestor. We have a Minnesota Republican that's with us

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Speaker 3: working for a resurgence of republicanism in the state, whose

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Speaker 3: direct ancestor ancestor is a signer of the Declaration. I

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Speaker 3: just want to yep, mister Bartlett, I want to give

649
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Speaker 3: you props, give you some kudos. I looked up Josiah Bartlett.

650
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: I read his story. He was a doctor, he was

651
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Speaker 3: a judge. This guy was cool and we got his

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Speaker 3: lineage right here working for our party.

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Speaker 5: So let's look at this and let's talk about that unity.

654
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Speaker 5: But we've got to delve into it, I think just

655
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Speaker 5: a little bit more to really for people to understand

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Speaker 5: the challenges for a governor candidate. Because if we don't

657
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Speaker 5: lay that out. I think some people have the impression

658
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Speaker 5: that we might just see this red wave because Walls

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Speaker 5: has been such a terrible governor that we don't have

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Speaker 5: to do hardly anything and we're going to win, and

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00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: the fraud in this state is so bad that people

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Speaker 5: automatically are going to vote Republican. I disagree. I disagree,

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Speaker 5: and I've looked at these things, and I've thought about it.

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Speaker 5: I asked questions, actually called people who on the political

665
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 5: realm probably don't see me as a friend, but I

666
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 5: know they've been around the system a long time and

667
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Speaker 5: ask them their opinion. So let's look at some things.

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Speaker 5: Walls is a third term running for a third term.

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Speaker 5: It hasn't worked very good. So that's another reason people

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Speaker 5: are saying we're going to win governorship in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: But we know in midterm elections, the party that's in

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Speaker 5: the White.

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00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: House, yes it's waxed.

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Speaker 5: Yes they do. It is very bad for the party

675
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Speaker 5: that's in the White House. That means we have a

676
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Speaker 5: certain set of challenges already. Voter turnout low is always.

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Speaker 3: Low twenty mid twenty percent Republicans in the primary historically.

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Speaker 5: In my area alone, heavy red districts, seventy five seventy

679
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Speaker 5: six percent, almost three thousand voters didn't show up in

680
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Speaker 5: a midterm election. When you look at the state, we

681
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 5: had nearly enough registered Republicans that didn't show up. We

682
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 5: could have nearly out voted or voted out Walls. Last time.

683
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Speaker 5: We simply didn't show up. On the national level, Ken

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Speaker 5: Martin was in the state of Minnesota, but he is

685
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Speaker 5: now at the DNC. At the national level, he's the chair.

686
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Speaker 5: He is the chair, and I will give him credit.

687
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: He is very smart when it comes to politics. He

688
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 5: knows elections, he knows how to run them. He is successful.

689
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Speaker 5: Now they've seen challenges as far as their donations, their

690
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Speaker 5: money coming into the DNC. He's even said that they

691
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Speaker 5: were going to have to take out a loan just

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Speaker 5: to operate. Okay. He's also very good friends with Timols

693
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Speaker 5: because of his time here in the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: And in twenty twenty eight, chances are Walls will probably

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Speaker 5: run for president.

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Speaker 3: Correct depends what we do to him in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: six exactly.

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Speaker 5: If, for instance, he were voted out as governor in

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Speaker 5: Minnesota of his career, that would be the end of

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Speaker 5: his career. But what else would it say about the

701
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Speaker 5: Democrat Party, the Democrat machine. Your VP pick couldn't get

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Speaker 5: elected in his own state. Bombshell, bombshell. Yes, So the Democrats,

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Speaker 5: in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Are to pour a lot into this cycle.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, they will throw everything and the kitchen sink at

706
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Speaker 5: this next election. There will be money coming in from

707
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Speaker 5: everywhere in order to prop him up. Because what it

708
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 5: would send the message, the ripple, the bombshell, whatever you

709
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Speaker 5: want to call it, would say that the Democrat machine

710
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Speaker 5: is not successful.

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Speaker 3: And let me give you the converse. Just let me

712
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Speaker 3: just interject. I've been a critic of Tom Emmer because

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Speaker 3: of the debt ceiling rays, which was in twenty three

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Speaker 3: or early twenty three, and you know, he's the House

715
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Speaker 3: majority whip, and he was out whipping votes and whipping

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Speaker 3: up support and saying this is the greatest cuts to

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Speaker 3: government spending and history. And I read the bill and

718
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Speaker 3: I said, there's no really cuts here. And I went

719
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Speaker 3: and talked to him about it. And I left that

720
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Speaker 3: meeting and I thought, wow, Wow, I'm an asshole. He's

721
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Speaker 3: I don't understand. And I went home and raise a

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Speaker 3: ninety nine page bill I read it again very carefully,

723
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Speaker 3: and I thought, you know, Representative Amber, you're not telling

724
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Speaker 3: the truth, dude. And then, through a series of serendipitous events,

725
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Speaker 3: my feelings got broadcast to ten thousand Republicans, caused a

726
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Speaker 3: riff and there's been a lot of bad blood because

727
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Speaker 3: of that. A podcast that I did about this issue

728
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Speaker 3: was widely distributed. I went down to Carver County in

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Speaker 3: CD six for an event not very long ago, and

730
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Speaker 3: I called Patty Williamson, who was putting on the event.

731
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Speaker 3: She's a BPOU chair in Carver County, and I said,

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Speaker 3: have you thought about security for this event? Because you

733
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Speaker 3: know this was right after the Hortman Sure killings. I mean,

734
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Speaker 3: you know, what do we got going on? And here's

735
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Speaker 3: what she said to me. She said, well, the Democrats

736
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Speaker 3: got a gay pripe parade and this towel and they're

737
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Speaker 3: doing this protest over here. And then I had just

738
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Speaker 3: been down and gone to a pack meeting and there

739
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Speaker 3: was more protesters than there were Republicans, and I had

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Speaker 3: this revelation and I said, man, I mean, I first

741
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Speaker 3: of all time, member is a phenomenal politician just from

742
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Speaker 3: the get go, super personable. I mean, he's got real skills.

743
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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he's the third most powerful guy in

744
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Speaker 3: the deal, but I realized that nationally they're pouring tremendous

745
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Speaker 3: money and energy into CD six to unseat him for

746
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Speaker 3: the exact same reason. If we can smoke the House

747
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Speaker 3: Majority whip. It's the same impetus that you're talking about

748
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Speaker 3: for walls, and why I'm taking such a long time

749
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: talking about this. If you're in the Republican Party in Minnesota,

750
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Speaker 3: or you're a Republican in Minnesota, or you're listing in Minnesota, hey,

751
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: we're ground zero Minnesota. This is where Mark Elias cut

752
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: his teeth on the Franken Coleman election when they you know,

753
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: that was where he started to get his election practice

754
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: going as a lawyer. We've got the University of Minnesota

755
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: turning out leftism on a worldwide basis. We've got Harold

756
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: Stassen here, a Republican who was very involved in globalism

757
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: at the United Nation. We got Rudy Boschwitz, a fellow

758
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 3: of the Council on Formulations right here in the Republican Party.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this has grown. We are such an important

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Speaker 3: state ideologically, So what you're saying, I've been in Tanni'll

761
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 3: tell you I've been saying this on the podcast for months.

762
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Speaker 3: If we beat him here, we beat him in their

763
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Speaker 3: home court.

764
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Speaker 5: Well, and this is the challenges we're up against. So

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Speaker 5: you mentioned Emmer, who would be the best choice to

766
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Speaker 5: go up against Walls? Generally, statistically, historically it's the person

767
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Speaker 5: who has attain the highest political position in that state.

768
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Speaker 5: Right so if if Walls is the governor, the next

769
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Speaker 5: person would either be a Senator or a House member

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Speaker 5: at the congressional level, that would automatically lean towards Tom Emmer.

771
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Speaker 5: But he is the third highest position in the House.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's given up his job and.

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Speaker 5: Giving up his House in position, that's for sure. And

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Speaker 5: that's that's fine, that makes sense, But I should one.

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Speaker 3: Of the other congressional members ever in I just want

776
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Speaker 3: to say I have a new respect and understanding of

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Speaker 3: what's going on for him. I just want to say,

778
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: this is part of being unified. I understand my criticism,

779
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: but I also understand he is on my side of

780
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Speaker 3: the football. That's what we're talking about unity.

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Speaker 5: Well, and that's the thing I think sometimes if we

782
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Speaker 5: explain these situations a little bit more, or delegates, the

783
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 5: people who are in the Republican Party would be maybe

784
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 5: a little bit less critical or maybe a little bit

785
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 5: more understand me, because there's other things that are happening.

786
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Speaker 5: It's not just in our backyard. It's it's not just

787
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 5: CD seven. There's things that are happening at the national

788
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 5: level that this all ties in. Why do you think

789
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: Trump came out and endorsed in instead Fishbach, Stobber, and

790
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 5: Emmer Because we know that the House in twenty twenty

791
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 5: six at the congressional level is the key. If we

792
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: as Republicans lose the House at that level, that means

793
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Speaker 5: it will be law fair. The Democrats will impeach Trump instantly.

794
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 5: We have to maintain the House at the congressional level.

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Speaker 3: It's imperative, but at the same time, But at the

796
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: same time, we've got a lot of executive orders at

797
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: the federal level, not a lot of legislation memorializing Trump's policies.

798
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: So his his agenda and why we're this is another

799
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: reason why we're going to have trouble in twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I think now he's smart, he's smart, and he listens

801
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: to Unlike a lot of the people in the bubble,

802
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: Trump actually listens to the base he does. There's a

803
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: feedback mechanism there. He said something that was great. He said, well,

804
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: the insurance companies are getting fat, Let's just give them

805
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Speaker 3: money to people. Well, the corruptions and the insurance companies,

806
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: that's what the coruption is. So you know, if you know,

807
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: there's things he can do, but if he doesn't accomplish

808
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: new ideas in the next year, because we're a year

809
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Speaker 3: out where we're really hung up now in these midterms,

810
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to speak about this because I'm intimately

811
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Speaker 3: involved in it. These reciprocal tariffs, the I e e

812
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Speaker 3: p A tariffs are being reviewed right now by the

813
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Speaker 3: Supreme Court of the United States. And from what I

814
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: have gleaned, and I mean I read the Scotus blog,

815
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Speaker 3: I mean this is important to me because of my

816
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: tire business. It looks like the Supreme Court is going

817
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: to rule eighty percent chance they're going to rule that

818
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: these I ee PA tariffs are unconstitutional. This creates a

819
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Speaker 3: tremendous amount of uncertainty in the supply chain. Port arrivals

820
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 3: are down seventeen percent the last thirty days in Los Angeles.

821
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you is you know tires. Hey, tires are

822
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Speaker 3: our leading indicator of what's getting ready to happen. And

823
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you the ass has falling off

824
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Speaker 3: the donkey when you get this kind of economic conty.

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Speaker 3: So it's what I'm saying is very easy for his

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Speaker 3: which I think is economic ideas are sensational because I'm

827
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Speaker 3: a player in the game, but it's very easy for

828
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Speaker 3: it to all get focused on inflation, and then when

829
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Speaker 3: it all falls apart, we don't get the recovery because

830
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: they keep delaying it. We can go into those midterms

831
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Speaker 3: and we and as a business person, and I know

832
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Speaker 3: you're a business person, You're gonna understand what I'm saying.

833
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Speaker 3: In business, I always plan for the worst case scenario.

834
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Speaker 3: If the best thing happens, God bless me, Thank you Low,

835
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Speaker 3: but I always think what can go wrong here, And

836
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Speaker 3: what can go wrong is that we have an economic

837
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Speaker 3: situation that is not conducive to putting money back into

838
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: people's pockets, which adds to the challenge that we face

839
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Speaker 3: as Republicans in that midterm. Is that a reasonable thing

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: In Minnesota especially well, and it's going to be nationally actually,

842
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 5: But if the economy is doing good next year, next summer.

843
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 5: These the tariffs, everything else that he's put in place.

844
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Speaker 5: As far as economy wise, bringing businesses back Saudi Arabia,

845
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 5: I think just increase their proposed investments to a trillion

846
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 5: dollars into the United States. If we if our economy

847
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Speaker 5: is doing well midterm next year or midsummer, our chances

848
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Speaker 5: of winning as Republicans in the state of Minnesota increase.

849
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 5: Because even the Democrats figured out this is kitchen table issues.

850
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 5: The Democrats have lost their blue collar voters. They need

851
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 5: to get them back. And if Trump, through his policies,

852
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 5: is able to say the economy is better now, your

853
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 5: paychecks are going further now, that's our best chance to success.

854
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Speaker 5: Because most of these races are they're tied to the

855
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Speaker 5: national level. It has changed significantly over the years. So

856
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Speaker 5: let's get back to that. But let's talk about the

857
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Speaker 5: election a little bit more of the US. Yeah, so

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Speaker 5: the four congressional members instead Stobber, Fishbach, and Emmer, it's

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Speaker 5: best for them to stay in their positions to maintain

860
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 5: the House at the congressional level. So the who's the

861
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 5: next round of likely candidates to run for governor in

862
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 5: this state? That'd be the Senat or the House. That's

863
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 5: why we see right now this wide open field because

864
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: you don't have one member who would be head and

865
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: shoulders above the rest, or one candidate I'm sorry, that

866
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 5: is really head and shoulders above the rest. That's why

867
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: we have this big field. Now, somebody's going to step

868
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 5: up a little bit more or start building rapports, start

869
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 5: gaining momentum. But right now it's kind of one of

870
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 5: those fields where you're looking at it and going which

871
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 5: one is it going to be? It actually bodes well

872
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: for our grass roots because the best way for success

873
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: to get a candidate across the finish line against Walls

874
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 5: is to endorse that candidate as soon as possible because

875
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 5: time and money are of the essence, which means we

876
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 5: can't have a primary. Strategically in the party, we cannot

877
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 5: afford a primary. Our delegates have to get behind a candidate,

878
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 5: and the candidates themselves have to realize that the bigger

879
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: picture here is not them, it's defeating Walls. Because let's

880
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: let's admit it, politics is a lot of pride, It's

881
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 5: a lot of me going on in politics. I feel

882
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: I'm the best candidate to run this, but we need

883
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 5: to educate the delegates to make sure that their endorsement

884
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 5: is a candidate that can win, that's a good candidate

885
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: that can beat walls. Is it everything that I would

886
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 5: hope for as a candidate in my area. Probably not.

887
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 5: But I've also got to understand, and it's a statewide race.

888
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 5: It's got whoever that candidate is has to appeal to

889
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 5: the metro and my area just as well. There's a

890
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: couple of things I won't budge on. I would not

891
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: get behind a candidate that isn't prolite, and I don't

892
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 5: know that any of the candidates don't don't fit that category.

893
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 5: And I'm also very strong in the second minu Those

894
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 5: are the two.

895
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: Things I have to do some candidate Farms Representative Wiener,

896
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: Oh you've got so I have to take you along

897
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: with me to some of these sure, you know, and

898
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: some of that stuff, because some of these people don't

899
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 3: like to drive three and a half hours on a

900
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: Wednesday night. They like to stay here close to home.

901
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 5: Understand. But now this is what it comes down to.

902
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: If we're going to build to beat walls, like I said,

903
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 5: we can't afford the primary the Democrats. We know we're

904
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 5: going to outspend us ten to one. They're going to

905
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 5: bring outside resources, they are going to they have to

906
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 5: prop up that machine. When we go to primary, if

907
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 5: you have two three candidates who have the financial means

908
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 5: to do it, you're looking at millions of dollars spent.

909
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 5: That's millions of dollars we're not spending against the Democrats.

910
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 5: Now there's some people in politics that say, well, you're

911
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 5: still campaigning, you're still building a base, you're still working.

912
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 5: It's not the point because what you're doing is still

913
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 5: differentiating yourself between another Republican in a primary. You need

914
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 5: to be campaigning against the Democrats. We can't afford that primary.

915
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 5: And then what we see also is with primaries is

916
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 5: the division in the timeline. We have an endorsement that's

917
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 5: probably gonna happen and may beginning of June. That means

918
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 5: if we go to primary, you're gonna have June, July,

919
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: August that we have candidates who are beating up each

920
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 5: other before they win the primary. But the camps themselves,

921
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 5: if you're in a Kristen Robbins camp, or if you're

922
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 5: in a Lisa day Meth camp, or a Kendall Walls

923
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 5: or a Jensen. There's division. And what we see is

924
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 5: when they go to primary and their candidate doesn't win,

925
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 5: they don't turn up the vote, they don't help out

926
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 5: the other candidates. Because you've spent the last three months

927
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 5: beating up on each other. It's kind of hard to

928
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 5: shake hands get along after that. You've created that division.

929
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 5: We can't do that this year.

930
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: Well, okay, now, I was at a candidate forum I

931
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: was talking about. It was down in Chanhassen, who was

932
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: run by a pack down there. Jensen was there, and

933
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 3: Phil Parrish was there, Kennel Calls was there. There were

934
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 3: some other cubernatorial candidates that were there. Brad Kohler was there. Sure,

935
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: And two of those candidates that would be Scott Jensen

936
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 3: and Phil Parrish were asked, I mean, they asked everybody

937
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 3: would they honor the endorsement. Those two both said that

938
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: they are not going to They're going to primary. They're

939
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: gonna primary. I mean, I'm just I heard it with bwonnaires. Now,

940
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: Scott Jensen, you're welcome on this show. I've called you,

941
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 3: you haven't answered my call. And we know each other

942
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 3: for many years. You know what, please come on, because

943
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: if I got this wrong, I was talking about before

944
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 3: we came out, how every word is important. Yes, so

945
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 3: I have to like just tell you this is what

946
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: I heard. It doesn't mean it's what he meant. You

947
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: know I heard. It doesn't mean I got it right, Scott,

948
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: So if you want to come out and clarify this,

949
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: because what Representative Wiener is saying is we can't afford

950
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: to waste resources and tear each other up in a

951
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: primary battle. But I heard both Field Parrish and I

952
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: heard Scott Jensen say, from my perspective, could have got

953
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 3: it wrong that they were going to primary, that they

954
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 3: would not be living with the Minnesota GOP process. And

955
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: I do want to say about Candle Candle, who have

956
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: a particular bone to pick with, and we talked about

957
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: that up in Park Rapids. You know, Candle Candle, You're

958
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: welcome to come on here too. Brother. But you know what,

959
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 3: I'm not going to forget what happened twenty twenty four

960
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: because you know, Royce White works at this studio, and

961
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: I was at that convention, and you know, he got

962
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: seventy percent of the delegate votes on the first go round,

963
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: and people loved it. And then the next day, paid

964
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: operatives of the Republican paid by the party, paid by

965
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 3: the party, came out. Michael Broadcorp. Paid by the party,

966
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 3: started trashing Royce and I got a little bit of

967
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: dog in this hunt because he trashed me too. And

968
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: then we had Dustin Graggie, who's still trash, and Royce

969
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 3: who's on somebody's payroll, and we got Brian Strausser. These

970
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: people are not out there on their own recognisance. They're organized.

971
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: I know that. I'm not going to go into it,

972
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: but I know they're organized, at least from my perspective.

973
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: They trashed Royce. Kendall immediately came out and endorsed Joe Frasier.

974
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: So did Gazelka, Coleman, Boshwitz, Benson. Sure they and you know,

975
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: so this is the I am with you on this,

976
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 3: but this is a recent wound for me personally, as

977
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 3: and I was a delegate to the convention. This really

978
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: shocked me that this happened. I did this is part

979
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: of me becoming political, understanding how the game works. And

980
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: then there was all these allegations that Royce is anti Semitic,

981
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: which is preposterous and insulting to me. Personally as a

982
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: Jewish person born in America, and then there's all this

983
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: stuff about his personal life, which is nobody's friggin business.

984
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: You were just nice enough to see you and your

985
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: wife don't always get along, Okay, you know that's something

986
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 3: we all have to deal with in our own homes.

987
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: So let's not be throwing any rocks at anybody. No,

988
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 3: his politics is solid, and they trashed I mean they

989
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: really went out of their way to trash them. So

990
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: we got a Senate rate with the same issue. And

991
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: I'm what I'm going to say to you and put

992
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: it up for your rebuttal. What you're saying is correct

993
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 3: from a theoretical perspective, like we were sitting around at

994
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 3: the university in a classroom, this would be great. It's

995
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: not what's going to happen. Or let's put it this way.

996
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: If we are going to plan for the worst case scenario,

997
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: we will have primaries, and I'm planning for it because

998
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: people have said they're going to do it. And then

999
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: what is the response to that, I mean, what do

1000
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: we say to each other because candidates have already come

1001
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: out and said we're not going to honor this process.

1002
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 5: So I think First of all, the delegates are imperative.

1003
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 5: We have to educate the delegates on what it takes

1004
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 5: to win a statewide race. Like I said before, it

1005
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 5: might not be the bread and butter candidate that I

1006
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: want in my area, but I have to look at

1007
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 5: William F. Buckley's rule. I always refer back to that

1008
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 5: find the most conservative, that candidate that is viable, and

1009
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 5: you back them. Does that mean a candidate up in

1010
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 5: my area that I want is going to win in

1011
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 5: the metro? Maybe not. So I've got to factor that

1012
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 5: in When it comes to the decision of endorsement. The

1013
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 5: delegates have to figure out they have to be we

1014
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 5: have to talk about these things. How important that that

1015
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 5: endorsement is. It's gold, It's worth big money, it is

1016
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 5: worth a ton of money. Bedroom money won't come in

1017
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 5: until until either after the primary and people drop out,

1018
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 5: or after I'm sorry, after the endorsement and people drop out,

1019
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 5: or after the primary, which leaves us even a shorter

1020
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 5: time frame in order to win this we cannot have that.

1021
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 5: So the candidates you say that are going to go

1022
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 5: straight to primary, I would say that the delegates have

1023
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 5: to look at that and say I can't support that candidate,

1024
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 5: because we're risking something bigger here. The delegates have to

1025
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 5: have to step up and say, because you won't abide

1026
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 5: by the endorsement, I will not endorse you. That that

1027
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 5: has to be said, I feel. So let's look at

1028
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 5: the endorsement. Let's talk about the value, because I think

1029
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 5: this is huge sampling. If you're going to bring a

1030
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 5: product to market, and whatever it is, your bottle of water,

1031
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 5: you bring ten people into the room and they sample

1032
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 5: that product. This is generally what you do with your

1033
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 5: test group. Right. If you can get six out of

1034
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 5: ten people that like that product, you have a product

1035
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 5: you can bring to market. You might have to tweak it,

1036
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 5: you might have to do different things in advertising because

1037
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 5: you want a higher percentage. Well, that's six out of

1038
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 5: ten is sixty percent the same as what the endorsement

1039
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 5: process is, and it actually follows a pattern. If you

1040
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 5: get six out of ten, great. If you sampled one

1041
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 5: hundred people and six out of ten like the product,

1042
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 5: chances are sixty out of that hundred are going to

1043
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 5: like the same product. If you sampled a thousand people,

1044
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 5: it's going to be six hundred out of one thousand.

1045
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 5: That's why the endorsed candidate wins ninety five percent of

1046
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 5: the time. I think it's ninety five ninety six percent.

1047
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 5: So even the statistics of going against an endorsed candidate

1048
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 5: doesn't make sense.

1049
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: You're just saying going to primary, based on the institutional

1050
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: support of the party and the history, is a good

1051
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: predictor of future outcomes exactly generally speaking. Generally speaking, although

1052
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: Walt's primary and he did, it happens, that happens.

1053
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 5: There is anomalies, but statistically, what happens is that endorsed

1054
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 5: candidate has the best chance of winning in the primary.

1055
01:00:53,440 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 5: It's the way this works. It's simple statistics. Now, when

1056
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 5: we know that, look at what we have to do,

1057
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 5: and this is where we have to unify. We have

1058
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: to talk to those delegates. We have to make sure

1059
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 5: that if they're candidate, that they're backing. And personally, I've

1060
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 5: made the comment I don't endorse candidates because I believe

1061
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 5: in that endorsement process. I believe that the delegates make

1062
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 5: that decision. And I've always said that when politicians become delegates,

1063
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 5: it's kind of an incestuous relationship. I don't believe that

1064
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 5: the politicians should be state central delegates as well because.

1065
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: Or serving on congressional district boards. Perhaps would you go that.

1066
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 5: Far could take a look at that as well.

1067
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to put you in a corner there.

1068
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the delegates right now because that's what

1069
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 5: we're talking about. I don't think we should be we

1070
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Speaker 5: should be delegates when we hold office, especially state Central

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Speaker 5: or the endorsing convention. That people make that decision, and

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Speaker 5: I will back what they do, but also feel that

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Speaker 5: I have to educate them because there's things that I

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Speaker 5: didn't know as a delegate that I wish somebody would

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Speaker 5: explain to me. And that's why I'm kind of going

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Speaker 5: into this with a little bit of depth.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you, a lot of delegates are

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Speaker 3: listening to you, So it's a good I mean, this

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Speaker 3: is a I mean we're making this space, you're making

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Speaker 3: a case, and we do have a lot of delegates

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Speaker 3: that listen to this podcast. And I think it's great

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Speaker 3: because I think what I'm saying so far, before you

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Speaker 3: get to your your summary statement, what you're saying is

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Speaker 3: the delegates need education. I want to say back what

1085
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm hearing as a delegate, I've got to get educated

1086
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 3: on what this from your perspective, got to get educated

1087
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Speaker 3: on what the process is. We have to understand that

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01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: there is a process that could lead to victory, and

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Speaker 3: that to siphon off energy from that process with internal

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Speaker 3: battling is could actually contribute to another trifecta, particularly within

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Speaker 3: the context that twenty six is not necessarily going to

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Speaker 3: be as simple as some of the pundits in the

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01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 3: party want to keep touting. And so there's an issue

1094
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Speaker 3: here that you're trying to Really, what you're talking about

1095
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 3: is winning. You're you're portraying, you are laying out your

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Speaker 3: vision of what is the best path to win because

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Speaker 3: you're in the pit with these people. If you don't

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Speaker 3: want to get put on the sidelines for another two years,

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Speaker 3: havn't already done that twenty three, twenty four.

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Speaker 5: I've seen the trifecta. So what you're saying for state

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Speaker 5: can't afford to go back? Okay, So trifecta. That's the point.

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Speaker 5: How do we get everybody on the same page. We

1103
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 5: have to explain it. We have to say why we

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Speaker 5: can't afford to do this again and we have to

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Speaker 5: move forward. It's I don't know. To me, it seems

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Speaker 5: kind of simple, but at the same time, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of people that don't know the inside politics. Let's

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Speaker 5: look at if you're training, if you're an athlete, do

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01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 5: you spend time doing things that are that wouldn't help

1110
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 5: you in your training process? So let's just say you're

1111
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 5: an Olympic athlete, right, and every day you're eating good food,

1112
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 5: and you're exercising, and you're getting maybe massages at the

1113
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Speaker 5: end of the day, and you're taking getting plenty of

1114
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: rest and all that stuff. Do you go out and

1115
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Speaker 5: drink on a regular basis? Probably not, because it takes

1116
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Speaker 5: away from your main focus and your main goal when

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Speaker 5: we're talking about politics and winning the state in the Minnesota.

1118
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Speaker 5: In Minnesota, we can't afford drinking that, you know, things

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Speaker 5: that are going to take us away from winning. And

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Speaker 5: that's what I mean when I talk about the endorsement

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, the primary that takes away from our winning,

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Speaker 5: That spending time and effort that we don't we can't

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Speaker 5: afford if you want to be if you want to

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Speaker 5: go against this Democrat machine, we cannot afford the distractions.

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Speaker 5: We cannot afford anything that's going to take away from

1126
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Speaker 5: our main goal here we can't do it. Primaries are

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Speaker 5: going to kill us in this state. Now, there was

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Speaker 5: groups before that said we need to go We just

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Speaker 5: need to get rid of the caucuses. Some of those

1130
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Speaker 5: groups are starting to figure out too that this election cycle,

1131
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Speaker 5: I've had conversations with more and more people saying, you

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Speaker 5: need to get behind an endorsed candidate as quickly as possible,

1133
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Speaker 5: and we need to get the money behind that endorsed

1134
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Speaker 5: candidate as quickly as possible. Three months worth of campaigning,

1135
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Speaker 5: millions of dollars worth of money spent in a primary,

1136
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Speaker 5: we simply don't have. It's a distraction from the bigger goal.

1137
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Speaker 5: That's where our unity needs to come in. That's where

1138
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Speaker 5: we need to talk to the delegates, and I hope

1139
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Speaker 5: this message is well received. They are critical in us.

1140
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Speaker 5: They need to become educated on those candidates. They need

1141
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 5: to understand that their endorsement is absolutely gold, and we

1142
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 5: need to move forward behind a candidate as quickly as possible.

1143
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Speaker 5: Knowing what the Democrats are going to do against us,

1144
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Speaker 5: we have to otherwise. The other option of this, like

1145
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Speaker 5: we said before, is another Democrat trifecta in this state.

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Speaker 3: Well, not necessarily, but you're what you're saying, well, strategically, strategically,

1147
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 3: we're better off unifying and taking those three months in

1148
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: that money and getting it behind one person that would

1149
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 3: be better in the art of war, is what you're saying.

1150
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: A better strategy, that's it is. I think the only

1151
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Speaker 3: strategy that we have if they get walls across the

1152
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 3: finish line. The Senate is already in Democrats' hands. Now

1153
01:06:53,160 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: there is the potential to flip that. There's basically Senate

1154
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 3: seats yet coupek uh in Morehead House Child in the

1155
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Speaker 3: Iron range, Putnam and Saint Cloud and Seberger would be

1156
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Speaker 3: the four. Is it possible to flip some of those?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. Yeah, we need some good candidates. But

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Speaker 5: we also know midterm is really tough for the party

1159
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 5: that's in the White House and that that rolls down

1160
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Speaker 5: to those Senate seats. In our state, the House is tied.

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Speaker 3: We've got two special elections coming up very shortly. Exactly, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I have I have a I have a response I

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Speaker 3: wanted to share with you, just something because you know

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Speaker 3: we're talking France, we're talking. Okay, So the institutional support

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Speaker 3: in the party is for candidates that are not aligned

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Speaker 3: with the base of the party. I'm just going to

1167
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Speaker 3: speak for the base of the party because this podcast

1168
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 3: really speaks to the base. Now we've got the Action

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Speaker 3: for Liberty people out there which are not fond of me.

1170
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 3: Because I have everybody on that'll come on, so you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm invited. I've invited Christin Robbins to come on, Lisa

1172
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: can come on. Anybody that would like to come on,

1173
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 3: that would like to speak to this cohort of citizens.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that I mean, Jim Nash

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Speaker 3: is not going to come on here. It's just not okay.

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Speaker 3: There's a division in the party. I mean, you being

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01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 3: here doesn't really say what's you know, where you are

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: in that division. And I'm not asking to self reveal,

1179
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: but the fact that you're coming on at least the

1180
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 3: people that are listening here are important to you as

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 3: base participants in the party in Minnesota. Citizens. We're not

1182
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: going to cut out anybody. And I'm saying in the

1183
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 3: preamble I said, hey, I'm all about unity. I tried.

1184
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Speaker 3: It's not me that's beating down folks like me. I

1185
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 3: want to get along with everybody. You know, I don't

1186
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 3: have a problem. I've never. I mean, there's a few

1187
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 3: Republicans I don't like, but most of the time, even

1188
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: if I don't agree with people, I'm okay with them

1189
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Speaker 3: as long as they don't lie to me. But the reality, now,

1190
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: now we've got this perfect template. Now we're into reality.

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01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 3: And here's reality. There is a very large number of

1192
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 3: people in this party that have had it with the

1193
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 3: candidates and the machine that spit out those candidates, and

1194
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 3: so those people, here's what I say to them. I'm

1195
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: going to tell you what my strategy is. I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to because I say it all the time of

1197
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: the podcast. Sure there's going to be a primary, because

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Speaker 3: I'm listening to what people say. Scott, if you'd like

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Speaker 3: to come on and crack me, you're more than welcome.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to on in the primary process, just

1201
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 3: come on and tell me, because I don't want to

1202
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 3: misquote you. Same thing with Phil. But I think these

1203
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 3: people have said they're going to primary, So there's going

1204
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: to be a primary. Seems to me, I think maybe not.

1205
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 3: You might be able to get the delegates motivated. But

1206
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying on my podcast, because I'm into all

1207
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 3: about strategy and tactics, I'm all about and this is

1208
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 3: my kudos to Dan Schultz and precing strategy, which I

1209
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 3: want to talk about some other ideas about how these

1210
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 3: campaigns can be used to organize the state party, because

1211
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: if the party was stronger, stronger, if every billet was filled.

1212
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 3: And let me give you an example. I'm in CD three,

1213
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 3: My senator is SD forty five. There's no precinct action

1214
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 3: at all. There's no get out the vote mechanism. And

1215
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 3: that's the only purpose of a party is to get

1216
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: out low propensity Republican leading voters who don't vote, particularly

1217
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 3: in off your elections. We don't have that, so we

1218
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: haven't built that. Let's talk about that in a second.

1219
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: But what I'm telling my audience because I'm a realist

1220
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 3: and I'm planning for the worst, and the worst is

1221
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: they'll be a primary. Hey, you know what, the day

1222
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 3: after the primary, I don't care who's I got that

1223
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: R after their name. I'm going to door knock for

1224
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: him and I'm going to promote them on this podcast

1225
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: because I agree with you. So what I'm saying you

1226
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 3: said after the primary, if it happens.

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Speaker 5: I say, it's got to be after the endorsement it

1228
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 5: has to be.

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01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: But if there's a primary, oh, it's a reality.

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Speaker 5: And this is where the delegates have their strength. If

1231
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 5: a candidate doesn't say that he or she would abide

1232
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 5: by the endorsement, don't endorse them. The bigger picture is

1233
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 5: we have to win. And if somebody says, after they

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01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 5: lose the endorsement that they're going to primary, our delegates

1235
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 5: should be up in arms against that individual because what

1236
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 5: they're doing is risking us losing this election again and

1237
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 5: handing it to Walls.

1238
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 3: And what you're saying, I'm seeing.

1239
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Speaker 5: The grassroots has an incredible amount of strength. I'm sorry, grassroots,

1240
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 5: the delegates, they have an incredible amount of strength. Their

1241
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 5: endorsement is gold.

1242
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 3: That that's why the in the sorbs they ask, will

1243
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 3: you honor the process? That's right.

1244
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 5: But now if you have a candidate that says they

1245
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 5: will abide by the endorsement, doesn't get it, and then

1246
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 5: goes to primary, you should have this huge outcry from

1247
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 5: the delegates, no faith in that person. You know, up

1248
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 5: in our area we have the Amish and they have

1249
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 5: shunning if you're not part of the group. If we

1250
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 5: have a candidate that does that, we basically need to

1251
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 5: shown that candidate.

1252
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Speaker 3: Okay, so let me just break this back down into

1253
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 3: strategy and tactics. First of all, I'm going to take

1254
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 3: issue and say the worst case scenario i'm planning for

1255
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 3: there is going to be a primary. I'm not saying

1256
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 3: it's preferred. I'm saying I'm just going on what people

1257
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: are saying in the gubernatorial field. So I'm saying, the

1258
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 3: day after that primary, if we can't unify after the convention,

1259
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 3: the day after the primary, hey, if your guy doesn't

1260
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: make it, or your gale doesn't make it, hey knock

1261
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Speaker 3: it off. Because what I'm hearing you say is you're

1262
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: speaking about this from personal experience. You're saying, hey, twenty three,

1263
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 3: twenty four, I lived it. Don't do that to me again. People,

1264
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the wake up call. The state can't

1265
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: afford another trifecta. So everything we need to do to

1266
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 3: avoid that, we need to be thinking about that strategically

1267
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: and tactically. Am I hearing you correctly?

1268
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Speaker 5: Yes, We've seen in this state when you have Omar

1269
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 5: Fatah and many others in the metro around the metro

1270
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 5: who are socialists, they're self avowed socialists, and in the

1271
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 5: Democrat Party. They are picking up more and more steam.

1272
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 5: The Democrat the socialists and the Democrat Party are gaining

1273
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 5: more and more power, not just in their party, in

1274
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 5: their party, not just in Minnesota, but across the nation.

1275
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 5: When you've got Mindami winning his election out in New

1276
01:13:54,160 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 5: York in AOC, exactly, we are facing an opponent that

1277
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 5: wants to crush us. So are we going to fight

1278
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Speaker 5: amongst ourselves or are we going to get behind a

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Speaker 5: candidate as soon as possible. So here's the alternative is horrible.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, accept accept My exception is candidates

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Speaker 5: that have a history of conceding and collaborating with the

1282
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 5: Democrat to govern, to govern, to govern, are really now

1283
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 5: governing with socialists. So you know there's a base in

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 5: this party of which I am aligned m that want

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 5: a more muscular, more principal driven party. See this is

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 5: the issue. Two, there's two issues. Number One, we have

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Speaker 5: a platform. If we're if we're going to do what

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01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 5: you're saying, that platform becomes very important because that is

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Speaker 5: our rally point. That's number one. And number two, what

1290
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 5: you're saying really is toothless. You want to put teeth

1291
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Speaker 5: into it. Every elected official every time you go in

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Speaker 5: front of a group of people, urge them to go

1293
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Speaker 5: to caucus and become part of the party. Urge them,

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Speaker 5: and then we can go all around the state and

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Speaker 5: teach and share how to get out the vote. Because

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Speaker 5: if this party could really drive out the vote, then

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Speaker 5: that endorsement would be an insurmountable power. But see, without

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Speaker 5: that actual grassroots participation at the precinct level.

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Speaker 3: Let's build that. No, no, I agree with you, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying, you want to make

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 3: this thing work. We need a platform that we actually

1302
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: follow because see some of our like you said life,

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01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh hey, I was at the forums, some of these

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01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: on that life issue, and they're a little shaky on

1305
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: that two way issue. Oh they're real shaky. Okay, So

1306
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 3: we have a platform that we have candidates that do

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 3: not honor number one and number two. If we really

1308
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: want to make this work. Every time I see you

1309
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 3: in front of a crowd, what I'm asking you to do?

1310
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Speaker 3: And Walter Hudson and Drew Roach and everybody else that

1311
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 3: comes on here. Pam Altendorf, thanks for coming on, and

1312
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 3: all the people are welcome, bring them on down with you.

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Speaker 3: We got to get There's forty one hundred precincts in

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01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 3: this state, and every precinct needs a precinct captain who's

1315
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 3: going to get out the vote. And you know how

1316
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 3: many precinct captains we got that get out the vote.

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01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to make a prediction zero.

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01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 5: And right now I spend as much time looking at

1319
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 5: Democrat stuff as I do Republican stuff on their own

1320
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 5: web page, on their own the Democrats sites. What are

1321
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 5: they promoting caucus training? Right now they're going across the

1322
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 5: state and doing caucus training. What are we doing? What

1323
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 5: is our state party doing? We need to You're to

1324
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,919
Speaker 5: your point when I saw that, and then I compare

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01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 5: that to our situation out in CD seven where there's

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01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 5: a huge conflict out there and an inability to get

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 5: some of the things in place that we need to

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01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 5: get in place.

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Speaker 3: And where's that coming from? Uh, if you want to

1330
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: put your neck out there in the guillotine, where is

1331
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 3: that resistance and that lack of congruity really emanating from.

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Speaker 3: Because I'll say it. If you won't you want to,

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Speaker 3: I'm giving you a spot.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to say this. There's fault on both sides.

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Speaker 5: And I do believe that firmly. There is we can

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01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 5: We can point blame all we want. How is that

1337
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 5: going to solve this problem? How will it? Will it

1338
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 5: come to a solution?

1339
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 3: I've had I have a question for you.

1340
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 5: I've had conversations in the last weeks about c D

1341
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 5: seven and what we're going to do, and I've said, look,

1342
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 5: we should be fundraising out here, we should be doing

1343
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 5: concous training, we should be doing all these other.

1344
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 3: Things, and all the senergy is going into conflict, and

1345
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: it's going into conflict. Tell me how I want your opinion,

1346
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: if you'll share it with me. You say there's blame

1347
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 3: on both sides. Well, I always see the blame on

1348
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: one side. I don't see it on the other side.

1349
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 3: I don't see it in the Brett Bustman, Steve Boyd

1350
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 3: Outer tail people. And if you want to tell me,

1351
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm listening, what is the what is the blame there?

1352
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 5: When I tell my kids this on a regular basis,

1353
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 5: when they come to me and say so and so

1354
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 5: did this, so and so did that, and I always

1355
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 5: say the same thing, what did you do? Well, I

1356
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 5: didn't do nothing. That's always the same response. No, no, no,

1357
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 5: We create about ninety percent of our own problems most

1358
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: of the time.

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Speaker 3: But what did they do? I mean, I don't know.

1360
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Speaker 3: I'm not in c these what did they do?

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Speaker 5: So when there was a change in leadership, but you

1362
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 5: saw the structure of the board, there was not enough votes.

1363
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 5: I will say Brett Brett as a leader, did not

1364
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 5: have enough votes to do some of the things that

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01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 5: he wanted to do. Simply didn't have it. And that's

1366
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 5: the way these boards are work. If you don't have

1367
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,879
Speaker 5: enough people supporting your ideas, there's going to be conflict.

1368
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 5: So now you have to carefully pick your battles. There

1369
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 5: were some things that were done, as far as I

1370
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 5: don't agree with airing dirty laundry, which there was an

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 5: email or a message that went out publicly on Facebook.

1372
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Speaker 5: Now you've created that conflict that didn't need to be done.

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01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 3: That was and there was some bad tactics used.

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Speaker 5: There were some bad tactics used. Absolutely in your opinion.

1375
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 5: Do I look at both sides of that conflict and

1376
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 5: I see some good people on both sides of this conflict,

1377
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 5: and then I look at Okay, you guys can keep

1378
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 5: fighting about this or we can actually do something. Product

1379
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 5: what's it going to be. You can stand there and

1380
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 5: fight all you want, or we can get something done.

1381
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 5: I care less about the squabble and more about what

1382
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 5: we're going to what we're going to do, because I

1383
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 5: use this line all the time. Our best days are

1384
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 5: not behind us, they're in front of us. But it's

1385
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 5: up to us to make that happen. So when we

1386
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 5: have that conflict and those struggles, you guys, you guys

1387
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 5: can look at this and say the sky is falling

1388
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 5: and we can't get nothing done because of this, that

1389
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 5: or the other issue. Go right ahead. It's up to

1390
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 5: us to make it happen. If we want something better.

1391
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's bending a little bit. Sometimes that's offering a

1392
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 5: Maya copa and apologizing even though you don't want to.

1393
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 5: What's it going to be? Are you going to keep fighting?

1394
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 5: And maybe this comes back to my Catholic upbringing and

1395
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 5: my mother with seven of us boys, dad was working

1396
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 5: all the time to put food on the table. She

1397
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 5: was the disciplinarian and when we were fighting, she would

1398
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 5: give us other chores to do. Quit focusing on this

1399
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 5: our bigger picture here. Our biggest conflict is the Democrats,

1400
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 5: But we're focusing on this. Why are we doing this.

1401
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 4: You know what.

1402
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm in the center of this fight, and I have

1403
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: been here in CD three, and you know I've done

1404
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 3: exactly what you're just saying. I put down the fight,

1405
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 3: wasting my personal energy, and I'm just organizing. I mean,

1406
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm just organizing. I'm just going out and doing what

1407
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 3: I think is right to create unity. You mentioned we

1408
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 3: had on a leader of the among community. We've had

1409
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 3: leaders of the Smalley community on. You know. I'm just

1410
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 3: trying to bring everybody together the best I can. I'm

1411
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 3: working in my precinct. I'm going all around the state

1412
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 3: meeting people. We run into each other from time to time,

1413
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: and I'm not really into the conflict because you know

1414
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 3: what it is, it's a numbers game. So all of

1415
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 3: the all of the squareblin. You're right, it takes away

1416
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: from getting things done. But I'm going to say, what

1417
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 3: would really get things done is staff in forty one

1418
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 3: hundred precincts. That would be You want to talk about

1419
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 3: teeth in the endorsement process. Oh, that's called a that's

1420
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 3: called a functioning party.

1421
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 5: We should be getting as many delegates to caucus as

1422
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 5: we can citizens to cause. Sorry, I'm sorry yes, citizens,

1423
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 5: and explaining how important this next election cycle is and

1424
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 5: if you want say and that's part of the reason

1425
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 5: I became a delegate to begin with. That's part of

1426
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 5: the reason I went.

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01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 3: To caucus caucus at the beginning, back before you became elected.

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01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 5: That's right. I wanted to have say and who was

1429
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 5: going to be on the ticket, not just to get

1430
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,759
Speaker 5: not to just decide one of the decisions had already

1431
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 5: been made. I'm gonna check this box for this candidate.

1432
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 5: The decisions were made way before that. I had to

1433
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 5: figure out as a delegate or going to caucus that

1434
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 5: my voice and who I back to, who I supported,

1435
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 5: who I made decisions for, are the is what happened

1436
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 5: to put the names on the ballot?

1437
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 3: Well, here's a question, elected representative, what's more important right now?

1438
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 3: A principal candidate or candidate that can raise money?

1439
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, that's a difficult question. I prefer principles.

1440
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: Well, see now I do. Now I'm pulling you over

1441
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 3: into the muck and myer of this.

1442
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 5: At the same time, let me say this, do you

1443
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 5: think by coming on this podcast there's going to be

1444
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 5: people who are going to attack me for doing it?

1445
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 3: I hope I'm getting to be seen differently now. Well,

1446
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 3: I hope so, because I'm working at trying to make

1447
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 3: this a forum of just open dialogue and discussion.

1448
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 5: But there will be people who will say, oh, you're

1449
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 5: on Penns podcast, therefore you fall into this camp. We

1450
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 5: don't want anything to do with you.

1451
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 3: You're really speaking for them too on the podcast, and

1452
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 3: I'm respecting you doing it. I mean, really, if we

1453
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 3: really wanted to pull back the curtain, you're saying something

1454
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 3: that I know is not going to happen. I'm saying

1455
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 3: I agree with you because I do theoretically, but I

1456
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 3: know we're going to be fighting it out, and I'm

1457
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 3: all for the fight. And I'll tell you why I'm

1458
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 3: for the fight. Let me just share with you. I

1459
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 3: just asked you the question. You pause for a second.

1460
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 3: It was a tough question, principal candidate. Money. You know,

1461
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 3: if you can raise money to get elected at a

1462
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 3: state wide level, that money, that money is where your

1463
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 3: allegiance is. If you've got no money, your allegiance is

1464
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 3: the people. Here's the problem. We don't have enough people.

1465
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 3: See if more people came into the process, if we

1466
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 3: had forty one hundred precinct captains, if we had a

1467
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 3: functioning party that actually worked, and we had a platform

1468
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 3: we were proud of and we could really promote it

1469
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 3: and speak to it. Hey, you know there's a differentiation there.

1470
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 3: You said principles right now, the platform is a little

1471
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 3: bit different because my thought process is on that. My

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01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: principles are going to be different than somebody else's. So

1473
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 3: it's kind of like Dad used to have great sayings,

1474
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 3: but common sense isn't that common right? But he also

1475
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 3: said common sense between you and me is two different things. Well,

1476
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 3: you made the comment that if they're not pro life,

1477
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 3: you're not with them.

1478
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 5: That that's my stance on this life.

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01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: Okay, my CD three, CD three, my chairman here, Stan

1480
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 3: Hamilton and his pal Rod Kerrn, they're promoting changing the

1481
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 3: stance of the Republican Party two more. I mean you

1482
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You know this is going on right.

1483
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so you know we have, like you say,

1484
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 3: we don't agree. And I keep telling these people in

1485
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 3: CD three, if you keep pushing this change, you're not

1486
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 3: going to get any liberal people to vote for us

1487
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 3: here in CD three, and you're going to piss off

1488
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 3: all the outstate people that are really Christian.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what the Democrats have done, even in

1490
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 5: my area, They've changed their messaging. Instead of being pro choice,

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01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 5: what they're saying is that and it's the mantra that

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01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 5: they almost pushed in the seventies to get Roe versus

1493
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 5: the wayed past was they need to be abortions need

1494
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 5: to be accessible and few and far between. You're right,

1495
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 5: that's the messaging that Democrats in my area are pushing.

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01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 3: Great million last year, one million deaths.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that that's what they're doing is changing their messaging.

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01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 5: Our messaging on abortion, I think should change a little

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 5: bit too, because let's look at abortions. We run away

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Speaker 5: from this and say this is a topic that we

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01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 5: can't win on. I disagree. And the reason I say

1502
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 5: this is because if you look at the statistics, seventy

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01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 5: percent of women nearly seventy like sixty eight sixty nine

1504
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 5: percent of women that have an abortion say they wouldn't

1505
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 5: have one if they had support. There are groups that

1506
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 5: are going across the state of Minnesota and the North

1507
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 5: Dakota's in their post aboartive Ladies Howls is their name,

1508
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 5: and they describe some of the stuff that's going on

1509
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 5: after they go in and have an abortion. How the

1510
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 5: industry just kicks them out. Basically, they don't talk about

1511
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,879
Speaker 5: the mental health issues. They don't talk about addiction. Addiction

1512
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 5: skyrockets after an abortion. Mental health issues skyrocket after an abortion.

1513
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 5: So as Republicans, let's talk about some of these things.

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01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 5: I don't think that we would have nearly as many

1515
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 5: abortions if we supported pregnant women.

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01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, here's another one to talk about.

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01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 3: Hey man, oh man, Hey, are you a man? Step

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01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 3: on up? Man? Okay, right, I mean we have to

1519
01:27:55,680 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 3: be responsible for our actions that self governance. We've had

1520
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 3: lost and out of wed like birth since the beginning

1521
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 3: of time. Okay, but what are men going to do?

1522
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 3: You know, you want to take See this is why

1523
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 3: I wish we had a party where we could go

1524
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 3: to any precinct and have a meeting and have young

1525
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 3: people there and talk to them and mentor them. I mean, really,

1526
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 3: we have an educational challenge, and we completely underestimate and

1527
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 3: downplay the importance of what it is we're doing culturally.

1528
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 3: We're too focused politically. This is a cultural issue we're

1529
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 3: talking about.

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01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 5: So you had the guy from Rasmusen. What was his name, Mitchell, Mark,

1531
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 5: Mitchell Mitchell and some of the statistics and the differences

1532
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 5: between what is eighteen to twenty five year olds and

1533
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 5: what they want men and women. What the difference is

1534
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 5: that they want out of life?

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01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 3: Rushing for men?

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01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 5: Yes, But and here's an interesting thing. Men tend to

1537
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 5: lead a curve, so to speak, a societal curve. Men

1538
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 5: stopped going to church before women did. And I think

1539
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 5: now when you see that men are wanting to have

1540
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 5: babies again, that's the start of that societal curve. That's

1541
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 5: the start of the shift that's going to happen, and

1542
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 5: women will follow. Michael Knowles talked about this in one

1543
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 5: of his podcasts recently, and I thought he explained it

1544
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 5: so well. Men are saying we want to have families. Okay,

1545
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 5: first of all, don't have them on wedlock. Don't have

1546
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 5: kids out of wedlock. If you want success in life,

1547
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 5: there's basically the three of the things that will statistically

1548
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 5: set you up is don't have children before you get married.

1549
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 5: Once you're married, stay married, and raise as many kids

1550
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 5: as you raise a healthy, happy family. Success follows those

1551
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 5: three things.

1552
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 3: So blessings follow those three things.

1553
01:29:58,320 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 5: Blessings follow those three things.

1554
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 3: I look at it from a religious frame.

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01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,560
Speaker 5: So now when you have a married couple with the

1556
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 5: family and they devote themselves to each other, success, house, car,

1557
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 5: all those things, you're gaining together, and that builds a

1558
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 5: strong society. When we see the negative that we have

1559
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 5: in our society right now, I believe a lot of

1560
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 5: this becomes from, uh, you know, the single family homes,

1561
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 5: the structures that have broken down in our society, the

1562
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:38,560
Speaker 5: societal norms, those are all feeding the negative things in

1563
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 5: our society. If we want to get back to a healthy, happy,

1564
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 5: you know, function these sort of society, what did they do?

1565
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 5: The statistics said ninety some percent of people were married

1566
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,919
Speaker 5: and had a family. We're not doing that anymore.

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01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 3: Actually, we're going kind of down around now. No, no, we're not,

1568
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 3: because you know, it's it's all part and power school

1569
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 3: is the same, just a little different. Here comes winter.

1570
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 3: In winter, good tires are in a luxury, they're a

1571
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 3: necessity for safety. At tiregit dot com, getting your winter

1572
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 3: tires is quick, easy and priced. Right with tiregit dot com,

1573
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 3: your order online, install right by your house, and stay

1574
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 3: safe on the road this winter season. And I do

1575
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 3: want to say one thing saying going back to the fifties.

1576
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 3: I was out several times recently with people in CD

1577
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 3: five because I'm trying to work down there with the

1578
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: urban voters. You know what they tell me down there,

1579
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 3: nobody shows up from the Republican Party. I went over

1580
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 3: to the Arcade Street VFW and Saint Paul Man. I

1581
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 3: was asked to go over there by a party member.

1582
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 3: She said, will you come over and talk about precincts?

1583
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 3: I said, sure. This woman name's Kathleen Quist, and Hi, Kathleen,

1584
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 3: if you're listening, thank you for setting that up, and

1585
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 3: I'll come back. She had tablecloths and she had enough

1586
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 3: pizza for one hundred seven people showed up. She was embarrassed.

1587
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 3: And you know what these people reminded me. They were

1588
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 3: Republicans in the district. You may be a little too young.

1589
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 3: When I was young, like in my twenties, who was

1590
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 3: like in the seventies, there was these Japanese soldiers that

1591
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 3: were in the jungles and they didn't get the message

1592
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 3: the war was over. So twenty years later they were

1593
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 3: coming out of the jungles and they had this look

1594
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 3: on their face like damn, I've been abandoned. That's what

1595
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 3: those Republicans look like to me and Saint Paul. The

1596
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 3: party does nothing for those people. They don't give them anything.

1597
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 3: And you know, when the party writes off the urban

1598
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 3: voters will never win in the state. Can't. When the

1599
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 3: party writes off to what Walter Hudson calls emergency emerging constituencies,

1600
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 3: which I'm trying to highlight here amongst smallies, can't get

1601
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 3: anything done. And then all the Christians that are not

1602
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 3: voting allegedly according to the party. You know, we're talking

1603
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: about strategy and tactics. We got to attenuate our efforts

1604
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 3: to where the votes are. But I'm gonna say to you,

1605
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 3: because we're going to close soon, might plea to all

1606
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 3: the elected repers and they don't do it. I mean

1607
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,959
Speaker 3: the party, we don't need any more Republicans. Alex Plackish

1608
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 3: I was on a board with him for two years.

1609
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 3: The board was trying to pursue some political dialogue. He said,

1610
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 3: we don't do politics here. What do we do here?

1611
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 3: Why am I involved in the Republican Party of Minnesota. No,

1612
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 3: we don't do politics here. I call him, mister, we

1613
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 3: don't do that here. So when we have this kind

1614
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 3: of barrier to change, it creates division. If we would

1615
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 3: just embrace each other and talk to each other and

1616
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 3: listen to each other. Because I want to say this

1617
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 3: to you, This is my summary statement on this primary thing.

1618
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 3: I watched the republic Party walk around Dustin Grage is

1619
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 3: perfect and we're gonna win. We're gonna win. We can

1620
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 3: win if we just put our mind to it. You know,

1621
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 3: it's an off your election twenty two. Was President Trump

1622
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 3: on the ballot in twenty two No, if you look

1623
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 3: at the electoral map since twenty sixteen, it's not, in

1624
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 3: my opinion, it's not men's GOP that's driving the state.

1625
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 3: It's President Trump drove the state in the direction. Would

1626
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 3: you agree with that.

1627
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 5: The national politics heavily influenced state elections.

1628
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 3: Can we not have a party that goes around all

1629
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 3: of us, goes to every precinct, every city, every county,

1630
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 3: every board, and start to promote citizen participation in the

1631
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 3: Republican Party of Minnesota. Why is the party resistance? The

1632
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 3: party has told leadership has told me directly, don't do that.

1633
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just gonna tell you. That is my

1634
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 3: interpretation of leadership's opinion about this.

1635
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 5: So I've run into some of that when I first

1636
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 5: got involved in politics and was told some of the

1637
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 5: same things that you were being told. We're not going

1638
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 5: to put any money into this, and if you're going

1639
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 5: to do it, do it yourself, and we did because

1640
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 5: this is a volunteer organization. Tell me where I can't

1641
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 5: do some of these things. Show me where it says

1642
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 5: in our rules and bylaws that I can't set up

1643
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:34,759
Speaker 5: caucus training, showing I'm doing it exactly. So the party

1644
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,719
Speaker 5: is what we make of it. We can do pretty

1645
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 5: much whatever we want. What you're going to tell me,

1646
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 5: I can't train people to show up to caucus to

1647
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 5: make them better educated delegates.

1648
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 3: And look, and you know what, if I'm going to

1649
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 3: go out there and start organizing, which I am, and

1650
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 3: I've got all this media, which I do, and the

1651
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 3: party looks at this and it goes, man, look what

1652
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 3: this asshole is doing, and they do it themselves. That's

1653
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 3: just more republicanism. That's great. We can unify, you know,

1654
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 3: in other words, by holding people accountable, not by squabbling,

1655
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 3: but by action and action. We need action. We need

1656
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 3: people in the streets doing the deal.

1657
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 5: We do, and we often hear, how come the party

1658
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 5: isn't doing this? How come the BPOU isn't doing this?

1659
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,759
Speaker 5: How come the CD level isn't doing this. Nothing stopping

1660
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:28,799
Speaker 5: you from doing it yourself.

1661
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,440
Speaker 3: I am doing it myself.

1662
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 5: And that's what I'm telling people across the state. So actually,

1663
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 5: after I'm done here, I'm meeting with a group of

1664
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 5: people down here in the Metro because one of the

1665
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 5: things that you brought up before, we hear from people

1666
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 5: in the Metro, and it might even been one of

1667
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 5: your guests, that we only see these people when it's

1668
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 5: election time. I'm not running for anything other than my

1669
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 5: house district, and yet I'm gonna meet some people down

1670
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 5: here in the Metro who feel abandoned. Great for them

1671
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 5: this morning. That's your own to do that. You're doing

1672
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 5: it your own volition, and I have gotten grief for

1673
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 5: doing things out of my district. Stay in your lane, Mike,

1674
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 5: stay in my lane. No, No, the lane is the

1675
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 5: state of Minnesota. That's right, because every decision that happens

1676
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 5: in this state is going to affect me one way

1677
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 5: or another. When it comes to politics, I'm not campaigning

1678
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 5: down here. What I'm trying to do is help win

1679
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 5: this state back. And if that bothers you as a Republican,

1680
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 5: I don't know what to tell you, but you cannot

1681
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 5: stop me from being a Republican down in the metro

1682
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 5: or in my area. You can't stop me from talking

1683
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 5: to people in the metro or outside of my area.

1684
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 5: If a BPO you in invites me to come in

1685
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 5: and talk to them, that's not my area. You'll go

1686
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 5: go in and talk to me, of course, And I

1687
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 5: usually catch hack for doing that.

1688
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 3: Catch hack, Hey, the people that are giving you a

1689
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 3: hack when you're there, tell them I'm doing the same thing.

1690
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 3: And let's drop the bullsh and let's start to really

1691
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 3: work our asses off. I'm working really hard to make

1692
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 3: pose that have changed and I will unify.

1693
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 5: See that's my message is we should be able to

1694
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 5: go anywhere in this state and talk to people. If

1695
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 5: they don't like it, that's not my fault. I'm doing

1696
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 5: what I see as best. But I'm not coming out

1697
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 5: and attacking somebody else if because they don't like me

1698
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 5: in their area, I think it's counterproductive. If I go

1699
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 5: give a talk in Saint Cloud, why can't I tell

1700
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 5: me where it says? Anywhere in our party rules and

1701
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 5: our platform that I can't give a talk to a

1702
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 5: group of college kids in St. Cloud.

1703
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 3: Oh hey, for the people that might be listening because

1704
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 3: they want to throw bricks at you or me, I'm

1705
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 3: going to tell you how I do it. I do

1706
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 3: a lot of outreach and here's what I tell people.

1707
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 3: I have a political opinion, but that's not why I'm here.

1708
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 3: I'm here to get you involved in the calucuss system.

1709
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 3: And I don't care if these people are silk stocking

1710
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 3: country clubbers or the most out there for writers, not

1711
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 3: just right for it. I don't care if they want

1712
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 3: to cauc us with the Republican Party. Let them come

1713
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 3: into the party and let's vote it out. Let's clarify

1714
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 3: this over time, because we do have a problem in

1715
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 3: the party. It's not going to go away. And what

1716
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 3: will solve it is which one of these two groups

1717
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 3: is going to go out and get the most people.

1718
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 3: It's a numbers game, the numbers game.

1719
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 5: Our government is of the people, buy the people, and

1720
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 5: for the people, and our party is basically the same

1721
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 5: way you get people to show up. It's a numbers game.

1722
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 5: Make it of the people, buy the people, and for

1723
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 5: the people.

1724
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 3: For our party, and you recognize there's people in the

1725
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 3: party that resist that tract. Sure, that sucks. That sucks.

1726
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 3: I mean really that just sucks because now, but a

1727
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 3: volunteer organization, you really don't have really any power. You're

1728
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 3: volunteering to serve your community, and you're trying to marshal

1729
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 3: your power and control it and keep other citizens out

1730
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 3: of participation. And I disagree with that now.

1731
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 5: At the same time, human nature is a complicated thing,

1732
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 5: but it follows patterns as well. Right, It's not just

1733
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 5: in the Republican Party where this happens. Oh a hundred

1734
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 5: people will tear you down for being successful. They will

1735
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 5: attack you for you know, whatever reason they want, whatever

1736
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 5: specific thing they don't like about you, they'll attack you for.

1737
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 5: So in the Republican Party, we can choose to react

1738
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 5: to those attacks, or we can just do what we're

1739
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 5: going to do.

1740
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep organizing, really, I mean, I'm

1741
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 3: just going to keep organizing. And I don't you know,

1742
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 3: don't have a bone to pick with anybody. I just

1743
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 3: want more. I want one captain in forty one hundred precincts,

1744
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 3: and then I want to train and work with those

1745
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,440
Speaker 3: people to get out the vote. I'm working in my neighborhood.

1746
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 3: I mean, really, you're an elected official, you have a

1747
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 3: state wide platform. The rest of us. Pay attention to

1748
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 3: your neighbors. Hey, Tanner, I got a question. Yeah, do

1749
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 3: you know your neighbors in the apartment? Yeah, couple, not

1750
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 3: the whole apartment complex, but the people, do you know?

1751
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1752
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 3: I mean I'm gonna tell you down here in the

1753
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 3: Metro if you ask people in CD three do you

1754
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 3: know your neighbors? They don't. They don't know. You know

1755
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 3: your neighbors though, don't.

1756
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 5: You on a probably first name basis. I was just

1757
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 5: thinking of the circle around us that, you know, I

1758
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 5: could tell you who lived in their house before they did.

1759
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 3: I mean, this is that's community what I'm really trying

1760
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 3: to drive at here, Mike, and I'm doing it with you.

1761
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 3: I mean, we're I think we're friends now we have

1762
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:32,719
Speaker 3: a relationship. I mean I would call you a friend.

1763
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 3: And I know we're not one hundred percent alive. Maybe

1764
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 3: we are, as we were saying before we walked in,

1765
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 3: you have a completely different set of pressures that impinge

1766
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 3: upon you than do I. But what we're really talking

1767
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 3: about is making a community of Republicans that statewide, an

1768
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 3: actual family of people that ascribed to the philosophy of Republicanism,

1769
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 3: which is about self governance, which is why I thought

1770
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 3: it was cool. We started off talking about hunting and

1771
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 3: putting food on the table, and having a well and

1772
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 3: having a wood burning stove and having a forest in

1773
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 3: the backyard. You know, I bet you got change saws,

1774
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 3: but I bet you got access and hatchets to, don't you. Yes, okay,

1775
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 3: I mean I love chopping. Invite me up sometimes just

1776
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 3: to chop wood, having chopped wood for a while. But

1777
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's just the important now I think,

1778
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 3: strategically and tactically that we start to make real relationships

1779
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 3: with people, real ones where we really don't have to

1780
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 3: agree with people a hundred percent, just have to be

1781
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 3: friends and be able to talk and not be putting

1782
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 3: each other down just because of you know, an ideological division. No,

1783
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 3: we're on the same side of the football. When I

1784
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 3: come out and say, hey, represent a Nevember, Yeah, maybe

1785
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 3: a little bit hard on you now that I understand

1786
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 3: the better because I'm more mature about the pressures you're facing.

1787
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean I agree. It's just that when the push

1788
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 3: comes to I would like to think we're on the

1789
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 3: same side of the football. I'm not sure, but I

1790
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 3: would like to believe we're on the same side of

1791
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 3: the football, all the Republicans. The unity you're seeking is

1792
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 3: and if we're not on the same side of the

1793
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 3: football and we're calling ourselves Republicans, that's what we're trying

1794
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 3: to sort out, isn't it.

1795
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 5: Well there is some of that, of course, but you're

1796
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,639
Speaker 5: always going to run into that. I think the thing

1797
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 5: is who is our real opponent here? Who is our

1798
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 5: real enemy? George Washington when he was president Revolutionary War,

1799
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 5: part of the biggest problem he in his early writings

1800
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 5: was spies was subversion. He didn't think that was how

1801
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 5: you function as self respecting people. Politics has got a

1802
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 5: lot of that into it. We've got to understand it,

1803
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 5: we've got to see it, we got to recognize it.

1804
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 5: Some people will say we have to call it out

1805
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 5: on a regular basis. Yep, it's there, we know it.

1806
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 5: But my thought is, if I'm not doing good enough

1807
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 5: job of articulating why we need to join together, why

1808
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 5: the people who are breaking things apart and causing division,

1809
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 5: Maybe I'm not saying that right I've got to say

1810
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 5: why we need to unify versus the people who cause division.

1811
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 5: I don't have to attack them on a regular basis.

1812
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 5: I don't have to say that. I have to articulate

1813
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 5: a better message and a better reason for doing what

1814
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 5: I'm doing people. If people need to get beyond or

1815
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 5: want to get behind that, then great.

1816
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 3: Well no, but you're laying out a vision of unity.

1817
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 3: As a guy who lived through twenty three twenty four,

1818
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 3: and you're saying, please don't let that happen to me again.

1819
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 3: It's awful, and the results for the state is going

1820
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 3: to be awful, and it's going to be awful for Republicans.

1821
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 3: I think you have a very compelling argument in that,

1822
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 3: and I think that we need to be unified. And

1823
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 3: I think this is my own perspective. I think we

1824
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 3: can fight and be unified simultaneously. I can walk into

1825
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 3: bubblegum at the same time. I don't think everybody can

1826
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 3: do that. I mean, I don't have any personal animist

1827
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 3: towards anybody I disagree with. But of course I'm a

1828
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 3: very experienced business person, and I just it's just business.

1829
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 3: It's not personal. So for me to unify, and I've

1830
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 3: trashed Kristin Robbinson two podcasts. But if she's the endorsed candidate,

1831
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 3: I will support her, you know, because I want because

1832
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying. The ultimate enemy is communism.

1833
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 3: That is the ultimate thing that we're fighting here.

1834
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 5: I was doing some more studying recently on Margaret Thatcher

1835
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 5: and it was amazing what she came up with and

1836
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 5: what she talked about. And this resurgence of communism and socialism,

1837
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 5: it comes in waves, and we're dealing with another one

1838
01:45:56,360 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 5: right now. We have to be we have to realize

1839
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 5: how serious that is. We've let education get a doctor.

1840
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 5: We have young people who are looking at socialism and

1841
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 5: saying it's a good thing. I'm old enough to remember

1842
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 5: when the wall came down in Germany, right, it was

1843
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 5: a really bad time. That was a really bad way

1844
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 5: of living for those people. Socialism and communism killed so

1845
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 5: many people. It's unbelievable. We always hear about the six

1846
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 5: million Jews in Germany concentration camps. What about the forty

1847
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 5: to fifty million that were starved to get to death

1848
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 5: by the socialists, by the communists in Russia? Do we

1849
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,639
Speaker 5: really want those people? Do we really want a socialist

1850
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 5: communist mindset running our country because they are coming back

1851
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 5: full force. They had made incredible inroads in the United

1852
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:02,879
Speaker 5: States in the twenties thirties. We went through the McArthur

1853
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 5: Areo era, which was basically pushing that down. It drove

1854
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 5: it underground to a certain extent, came back in the sixties,

1855
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,600
Speaker 5: came back in the sixties exactly.

1856
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 3: Got beat down again. The silent majority came forward.

1857
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 5: That's right, and we're dealing with it again today. And

1858
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 5: if we don't get our stuff together, do we really

1859
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:27,799
Speaker 5: want a socialist country? Do we really want a communist country?

1860
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 5: I don't.

1861
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 3: I don't either. We're united in that. And this is

1862
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,640
Speaker 3: really what it really comes down to. It takes some

1863
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 3: courage now to say these things. What you're saying is

1864
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 3: not part and parcel of every day republican discourse. What

1865
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 3: you're saying is we're fighting communism. Are we on the

1866
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 3: same side of the football now? And what I'm saying is,

1867
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,440
Speaker 3: there's a set of principles here. There's a set of principles.

1868
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna just break it down one step further.

1869
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 3: Communism is pitched to people as an economic strategy. I

1870
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 3: think it's a theological strategy. So you know, if you

1871
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 3: have faith in God, could be Allah, could be Yahweh,

1872
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:15,799
Speaker 3: could be Christ. But if you're a person of faith,

1873
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 3: because you know, under our Republican form of governance, we

1874
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 3: can believe what we want to believe, right, if you

1875
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 3: believe in God, if you believe in something we don't

1876
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 3: understand bigger than us. That's what they want to take away.

1877
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 3: They don't want me to be answering to a higher

1878
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 3: power because then I'm going to be as ethical and

1879
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 3: moral as I can be under my own recognisance. They

1880
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 3: don't want that. They want to set the rules set

1881
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:45,719
Speaker 3: by man. I mean, we have very clear principles to defend,

1882
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 3: to speak about eloquently. And I'm going to say if

1883
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 3: people in the party this is another little squabble thing

1884
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 3: we squabble with the Democrats about, you know, picking the

1885
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 3: dandrapout their combs. We got big time arguments to have

1886
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 3: here now that we can rally our Republicanism around. But

1887
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 3: who are they who are the eloquent articulators of that idea? Well,

1888
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 3: you're getting there. We got to get the people out

1889
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 3: in front talking about the danger that we face and

1890
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 3: treat the citizens as if they are not twelve years old.

1891
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 3: Because there's too much of this talking down to the

1892
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,840
Speaker 3: citizens and on this discourse is pissing me off. We

1893
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 3: got to elevate the city. If we're going to beat

1894
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,560
Speaker 3: the communists, we got to elevate the citizens.

1895
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 5: So everybody says that history repeats itself. Mark Twain said,

1896
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 5: history doesn't repeat itself, but it's sure rhymes. We see this,

1897
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 5: and I love reading, I love studying. It's you see

1898
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 5: the patterns. Last summer what I wanted, I got through

1899
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 5: most of it. History of the Russian Revolution by Trotzky.

1900
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 5: I needed to read that. And now Margaret Thatcher, seeing

1901
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 5: how these things developed. And when you when you talk

1902
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 5: about a godlessness, well, communism and socialism is godlessness and

1903
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 5: it replaces it with the state. The state is the

1904
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 5: ultimate power then instead of God. That's what we're looking at.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we see in government when every solution to.

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Speaker 3: Every problem is government is government. And I disagree, and

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Speaker 3: you're right in that government and you know the fastest way.

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Speaker 3: This is why the Action for Liberty people are so strident.

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Speaker 3: They want the government shrunk budget wise, you know, starve

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Speaker 3: the beast, because we already see this is an art tannery.

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Speaker 3: Can we go over two hours or we were two hours?

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Speaker 4: Is probably mac?

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Speaker 3: Okay, we got eleven minutes, so I just want to say,

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Speaker 3: we've been on two hours already. Yeah, it's great to talk, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's great to have you, and thank you

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Speaker 3: for coming. And for the people that are going to

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Speaker 3: judge against you for being here. I invite them to

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Speaker 3: come on these kind of conferences. Put them right here

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Speaker 3: and let's let's have it. Let's have these dialogues publicly,

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Speaker 3: because I know these people that oppose where I'm coming

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Speaker 3: from have very valid things to say that I could

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Speaker 3: learn from. And what they don't get is I'll listen

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Speaker 3: to them. I want to learn. We're not going to

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Speaker 3: have unity if we don't talk to each other. That's

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Speaker 3: that's really critical. But this this aphour l crowd, uh,

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Speaker 3: which I respect, and I repost a lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: that Jesse Smith writes because he writes some great stuff.

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Speaker 3: What they really they're bone to pick is, you know,

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Speaker 3: starve the beast, and you're in the beast. And so

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Speaker 3: what I want to say in this last few minutes,

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Speaker 3: we're sold this lie Kindergarten all the way through graduate school,

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Speaker 3: and the lae is. You got the far right, which

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Speaker 3: includes the Christians, the right, which they put the Nazis

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Speaker 3: over on the right, and then you have the far left,

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Speaker 3: which is the communists, and democracy is in the center, which,

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Speaker 3: first of all, we don't live in a democracy. But

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Speaker 3: let's just this audience knows that. But this organization, this

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Speaker 3: worldview that has been implanted into everyone's head is so

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Speaker 3: false because the Nazis are.

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Speaker 5: Leftists, yes they are.

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Speaker 3: So you've got the Communists on the far left, the

1942
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Speaker 3: Nazis are on the left. And then where is really

1943
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Speaker 3: a republic? Well, where a republic is is right at

1944
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Speaker 3: the edge of chaos because we're self governing, and what

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Speaker 3: the impetus is in government is to govern. Like if

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Speaker 3: you go to a surgeon, you're gonna have surgery. You

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Speaker 3: go to a lawyer, you're gonna litigate, You're gonna have

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Speaker 3: you a big government, it's gonna govern you. And what

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Speaker 3: we want to do, what I want to do, is

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Speaker 3: have people self governing. So the whole constellation of how

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Speaker 3: we think about this political spectrum is not correct.

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Speaker 5: Seeing even the term self govern I tend to view it,

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Speaker 5: describe it a little bit different I say it's empowering

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Speaker 5: the individual because I believe that the individual makes the

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Speaker 5: best decisions for themselves, and then it becomes, you know,

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Speaker 5: the family, they make the best decisions for themselves. When

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Speaker 5: government says I'm entitled to forty percent, fifty percent of

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Speaker 5: every dollar that you earn, you are taking away that

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Speaker 5: individual's right to figure out what they need to spend

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Speaker 5: that money on. This is a problem, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's where when you have group like Action for Liberty

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Speaker 5: saying they want to shrink, shrink the size of government,

1963
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Speaker 5: most people go, well, what does that mean. I say,

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Speaker 5: I want to empower the individual. I want you to

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Speaker 5: make the decisions for yourself and not have a bureaucrat

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Speaker 5: that has no idea who you are. You're just a number,

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Speaker 5: tell you how to live your life, how to spend

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Speaker 5: your money. I don't want bureaucrats tell you how to

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Speaker 5: run your business. We talked about the paid family medical leave.

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Speaker 5: Before we came on the air, businesses used to offer

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Speaker 5: that as a benefit to pull employees in. Now the

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Speaker 5: state is telling you you have.

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Speaker 3: To do this every else exactly. They come part of

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Speaker 3: a cookie cutter approach to life.

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Speaker 5: And we took this or we talked about it a

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01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 5: little bit before we came on. The unions should be

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Speaker 5: upset about the paid family medical.

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Speaker 3: Leave because it's taken away their claim to fame.

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Speaker 5: It absolutely just made the unions around elevant because now

1980
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Speaker 5: government can step in and tell you what to do

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Speaker 5: with your businesses. What's the point of having an union

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Speaker 5: if the government is going to come in and say

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Speaker 5: this is what the wages are going to be. What

1984
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Speaker 5: are unions negotia?

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Speaker 3: You know, if they've studied the Chinese flag, there's stars

1986
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 3: on there. One of those stars is for the workers.

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Speaker 3: Because there are no unions in China, right, there's there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, union busting in China. There's no

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Speaker 3: court to injunk that union busting. So when the workers

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Speaker 3: get up at the in China, guess what happens. The

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01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 3: constabulary comes in and cracks everybody's head. In fact, it's

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Speaker 3: even farther than that. Now they have facial recognition cameras

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Speaker 3: everywhere else. There's no cash anymore. They have a social

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Speaker 3: credit score, and they have a compliant culture. And you

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Speaker 3: know what Chinese people say, They just say, I follow

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Speaker 3: constitutional law. I don't care. It's good for me. I

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Speaker 3: feel safe. I feel safe. So you know, we the

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01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 3: people are bringing this upon ourselves. That's why I said,

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Speaker 3: you should take those Democrats up and take them houting

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01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 3: and fishing, get them out in nature. Some of the

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01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 3: people that you serve with maybe never put on a

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Speaker 3: flannel shirt in their lives.

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Speaker 5: I could bring them up to the range and we

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01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 5: could show them the joy of an assault weapon.

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Speaker 3: I would like to go. I would like to go

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Speaker 3: along for that way, Mike. It was a great conversation,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think you mind the rub that we

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Speaker 3: have because we're just we're discussing tensions in the party.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to just say in closing, I would

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Speaker 3: like to see forty one hundred precinct captains that could

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Speaker 3: turn out the vote. And if that happened, there one

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Speaker 3: beating primaries, that'd be the end of that because if

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Speaker 3: the party had teeth, real teeth, nobody would get in

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Speaker 3: its way. See, and that's what we don't have right now.

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Speaker 3: So I'm about building that cohesiveness where we actually can

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Speaker 3: turn now the vote, where we actually have a community

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Speaker 3: of neighbors. And then all of a sudden, what you're saying,

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Speaker 3: your template is correct, but I do say your idea

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Speaker 3: is right. I'm a realist. I hope what you're saying happens,

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Speaker 3: but I'm planning for the worst. I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to share with you. Understand that. But if we

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Speaker 3: don't talk about it, got to start somewhere, nothing is

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Speaker 3: going to change. That is we are talking about it.

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Speaker 3: That's right. We weren't talking about it a year ago.

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Speaker 3: We didn't know each other. I'm going to invite you

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Speaker 3: to invite other people in the caucus that you're friendly

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Speaker 3: with or not friendly with, to come on in here

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Speaker 3: and let's really start to uh intensify this dialogue because

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Speaker 3: by talking, we're going to find out we're friends.

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Speaker 5: That would be I would I would love to have

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Speaker 5: three people, four people bring up four to two against

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Speaker 5: the debate ideas back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Because that's us that's going to do. And I've told

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Speaker 3: people I'll go any place in the state, but if

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01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 3: we come here, we can get thousands of people involved

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Speaker 3: in the dialogue. Tanner, thank you very much for recording today. Mike,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much for coming in. I hope everybody

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Speaker 3: you're welcome to come back soon again. I hope everybody

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01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 3: enjoyed this dialogue, Target dot Com, Free People's Store. Go

2040
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 3: to Caucus. Get involved. If you're sitting on your couch complaining,

2041
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:23,000
Speaker 3: it's entertainment for you, go to a therapist. If you

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01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 3: want to change your country and be involved in the

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01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 3: most important moment human history in American history, just go

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01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 3: to Caucus and be a part of the party. Tanner,

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Speaker 3: are you going to do that? Go to Caucus? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'll try. No, there's no you're gonna make me be

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01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 3: like Yoda. There's no try. Just do.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to call them caucus night. Make sure

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Speaker 5: it shows up.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'll drag him. I'm dragging them. Thanksanner, Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much.

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