1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: H I get everybody on Dan Hord and thanks for 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast the. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: I Will We I Will We for you audition. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: As we only have to go one more weekend without 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Bengals football. Coming up, I'll talk to the two rookies 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: who were probably the biggest long shots to make the 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Bengals fifty three man roster, and my broadcast partner Dave 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Lapham checks in to discuss the latest Bengals news and 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: our training camp MVPs. 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It's the greatest thing since tailgating. 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: I have the greatest job in the world, and thank Heavens, 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: I was able to get into sports broadcasting because I 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: am incapable of doing anything else. Shoot, I can barely 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: fill my gas tank or change a light bulb. But 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: having said that, the one downside about my job is 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: that I can never take part in pregame tailgating. For 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: many of you, it's one of the best parts of 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: the football season, getting together with friends and family and 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: getting fired up for the game, tossing a football or 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: playing cornhole, having a sinsy light and a brat. Just 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: know that the next time you're tailgating before a Bengals game, 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: the bald guy in the booth wishes he could be 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: there with you. Now, let's get to football. The Bengals 32 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: single season sack record is held by a player who 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: is not selected in the NFL draft, Coy Bacon. Since 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: tackles became an official NFL stat and too thousand and one, 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: the only Bengal to lead the league was another undrafted player, 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Bontes Perfect in twenty thirteen. This year, two undrafted rookies 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: made the Bengals fifty three man roster, punter Ryan Rico 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: and linebacker Muma John Meta. Muma was clearly the biggest 39 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: long shot to make the team This year, and I 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: talked to him about the achievement. When your linebackers coach 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: James Betcher called you with the good news, you shared 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: that you were getting a massage. So what felt better 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: the news or the massage? 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: The news? 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 4: Now the news the news was releading. I was that 46 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: was pretty awesome. It was. I saw the video. 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: I was like, bro, I did not know that were recording, 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 5: but this is hilarious, but that it was a wonderful video. 49 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: Very touch on. 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: Did you have a good feeling that you were going 51 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: to make it or were you on pins and needles? 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: No, I mean I think. 53 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 5: I think it was one of those Okay, I feel 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: pretty good about Honestly, it was one of those that, 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: you know, no matter what happens, I'm happy with what 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: I've done. You know, forget the result at this point. 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 5: I feel like I put it out there and at 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 5: the end of the day, that's really all you can 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 5: ask for. It ended up going working out in you know, 60 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: very positive outcome. You know, I love this city, I 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 5: love this team, and I really wanted to be here. 62 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 5: So uh, I felt good about what I had done, 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 5: but I so needed to wait for that call. We 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 5: really feel good about it and the call Cave and 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: it was it was it was a really good day. 66 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: We're visiting with moment, John Matta. You finished second in 67 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: the NFL in tackles in the preseason. Did you become 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: aware of that as the preseason was going along and 69 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: did it become a goal to lead? 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: No, I mean, honestly, like it's one of those things 71 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 5: that reporters tell you. I'm like, oh, let's didn't know that, 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: and so yeah, I did not. Honestly didn't really know 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 5: until the second game. Like someone was like, oh, like. 74 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: You're leading NFL tackles. I was like, that's crazy, you know. 75 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 5: I think it's just a testimony to my teammates kind 76 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 5: of the scheme that we have and coaches just putting 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 5: us in the right position. Yeah, so it was awesome. 78 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: It was definitely really cool. It's a fun thing. I'm 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 5: telling my kids that forever. So something to brag about 80 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: is a dad one day. 81 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: You read All League onners a couple of years ago 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: again at Wisconsin, and then last year with a coaching change, 83 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: maybe it took a while to to fit in the defense. 84 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. You tell me what what happened last 85 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: year Wisconsin yeah. 86 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I think last year was just an unfortunate 87 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 5: cocktail of events. You know, I broke my hand early on, 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: made a scheme change, you had a coaching change. 89 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: It was just, you know, I asked me to gain 90 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 4: a lot of weight. 91 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: It was just a lot of things where you know, 92 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: I found myself just not playing my best football. And 93 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: then you know, there were there were times when they 94 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 5: felt like they needed to go with a different person. 95 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: But I felt like when I you know, I wasn't there, 96 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 4: I did some of my best work. 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 5: So it was it was one of those things that 98 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: you you learned every lesson, every loss can be a lesson, 99 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 5: and I think it definitely shaped my mindset coming into 100 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 5: camp here about like, hey, this is what I want 101 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 5: to do different. You know, this is a new opportunity 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna just do with it what I can. 103 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: So last year it was just honestly crazy. 104 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 5: Looking back, you know, your life can really change in 105 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 5: the year, so it's a blessing to be here. 106 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: You did finish strong last year, though. 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think so. I think it was just. 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 5: You know, I was they benched me in, you know, 109 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 5: they the coaches wanted to go in a different direction, 110 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: and I'm honestly been a damn the team player. 111 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: So I was captain the defense, and I found a 112 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: way to lead from the. 113 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 5: Bench, and it was just like, hey, coach, you're gonna 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 5: throw me in for three four reps a game, like, 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 5: I'll shoot those will be my best three or four reps. 116 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: You'll see it. 117 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 5: So and honestly just prepared me for coming to the 118 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 5: league where you only get three or four reps as 119 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 5: a young guy, you know, like you don't and that's 120 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 5: your resume. So in a crazy silver lightings way like 121 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: it actually last year prepared me so much for this year. 122 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: It was actually a blessing kind of the way it 123 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 4: shaped out last year. 124 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: The Bengals fans great players in their history that weren't 125 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: selected in the NFL Draft, and obviously you weren't. What 126 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: did teams miss Why did thirty two teams that make 127 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: seven rounds of draft picks and somehow miss out on you? 128 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: A shrug of the shoulders. 129 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 5: Hey, well, the story is still being written, so I 130 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: can't really call it quite yet. But you know, things happen. 131 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 5: People say what they say, and that they all love 132 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 5: about football. 133 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: As the tape speaks for itself. 134 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 5: So that's something I always have with me and something 135 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 5: I always mean back on. So it's not. 136 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: How you get here, it's what you do when you 137 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: get here. You are a spot on the fifty three. Congratulations, 138 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it, Thank you. A little later in the podcast, 139 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: I'll visit with another long shot who made the club, 140 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: a guy who started his college football career at Division 141 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: two Shepherd University. Seventh round draft pick Dejon Anthony. But 142 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: first time to discuss the roster and the latest Bengals 143 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: news that broad cast partner Dave Lapham lafter Bengals fifty 144 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: three man roster and sixteen man factors squad is now 145 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: officially set. 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: What if anything, stands out to you. 147 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 6: One thing that stands out, Dan, is the youth of 148 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 6: this football team. They're averaging under twenty six years twenty 149 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 6: five point eight, which is less younger than last year's team, 150 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 6: which was like, what, third youngest in the league. They've 151 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 6: only got eight players with seven or more years of 152 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 6: NFL experience, four defensive lineman, three offensive lineman, and a 153 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 6: tight end. So I mean they've got fifty four. I mean, yeah, 154 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 6: fifty four of their sixty nine players are less than 155 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 6: five years five years or less. Thirty eight of their 156 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 6: fifty three five years are less. I mean, it's the 157 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 6: depth of the team falls on these second year players, 158 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 6: in these rookies. You know, it's it is a young 159 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 6: football team, but I think it's a very talented football 160 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 6: team in spite of that youth. I think, you know, 161 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 6: that's what that's what sticks out to me is they've 162 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 6: only got one guy going into his tentier, Trent Brown 163 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 6: at thirty one years old. Carris is going into his 164 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 6: ninth year. Both those guys are the oldest guys in 165 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 6: the team, just thirty one years old. I mean, it's 166 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 6: it's young, yet it has individual and team achievements that 167 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 6: are extraordinary by by you know, quite a few of 168 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 6: the players. And I think it's going to be a 169 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 6: pretty good club. 170 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: It's no secret lap when you have a highly paid 171 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: quarterback and the Bengals obviously do you need inexpensive depths. 172 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: The Bengals kept twelve rookies, all ten of their draft picks, 173 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: plus two undrafted guys. But they're not keeping them just 174 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: because they're inexpensive. They really like that young group. 175 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 6: They do. Dan and all eight rookies that made it 176 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 6: last year have some sort of role on the sixty 177 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 6: nine n roster this year, you know. So it's like 178 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 6: ten draft choices this year, eight last year. Two college 179 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 6: free agents make it again this year. The most in 180 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 6: the National Football League by any team is three college 181 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 6: free agents that made the team with the Kansas City Chiefs. 182 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 6: The Bengals are amongst a few that have two. So 183 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 6: you got to tip your cap to the you know, 184 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 6: Duke Tobin and his personel department and unearthing a lot 185 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 6: of these young players. And you're right, you know, you've 186 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 6: got a a very very highly paid and rightfully sole quarterback. 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 6: You have to surround him with cost effective talent, There's 188 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 6: no question about it. And the last two years what 189 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 6: they've done a heck of a job of it. 190 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: The position group that is in flux to begin the 191 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: season is the defensive line. Miles Murphy and McKinley Jackson 192 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: begin the year on I are they will miss at 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: least four weeks. So the Bengals went to the waiver 194 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 2: wire and they found kJ Henry, a fifth round draft 195 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: pick last year by Washington out of Clemson, started three 196 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: games as a rookie last year for the Commanders and 197 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: He was their highest graded pass rusher in the preseason, 198 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: according to p f F. Do you think kJ Henry 199 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: will play a meaningful role. 200 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: I do. 201 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 6: I think he's gonna, you know, like his surroundings, his 202 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 6: defensive mind coaches there is, they're both very familiar with 203 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 6: each other having come from Clemson. He's got teammates from 204 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 6: that that team at Clemson on the on the football team. 205 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 206 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 6: He's said to be a gregarious sort and uh makes 207 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 6: relationships strong relationships with his teammates right away. I do. 208 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 6: I mean, I think that he's got a he's got 209 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 6: a potential to uh, you know, to make to have 210 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 6: an impact on on the football team. He's uh, he's 211 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 6: obviously got physical talent and they that's You're right, that 212 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 6: position group in general, UH is probably as big a 213 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 6: question mark assan team. I mean, he makes the fifth 214 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 6: defensive end. They have five defensive tackles that they've settled 215 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 6: in on, and you know, he he becomes the fifth 216 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 6: edge guy, and like you said, grated out well as 217 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 6: that as that edge guy. He's basically here. A big 218 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 6: reason part of a reason why he's here is Miles 219 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 6: Murphy's injury. You know, I mean if that didn't take place, 220 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 6: it would be a much different dynamic. And also, I 221 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 6: think Cedric Johnson basically has an opportunity to assume a 222 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 6: pretty significant role, you know. I mean, now, all of 223 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 6: a sudden, you got a young guy that I think 224 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 6: showed that he could play in training camp, and he's 225 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 6: going to be leaned upon to take some significant snaps, 226 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 6: potentially in a significant role for the football team. 227 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: They also picked up a couple of defensive linemen from 228 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: other teams for the practice squad, three hundred and thirty 229 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: five pound Justin Rodgers, who was a seventh round pick 230 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: by the Cowboys this year, and defensive end Isaiah Thomas, 231 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: who was a seventh round pick by the Browns a 232 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Is that just a matter of 233 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: these guys are a little bit better than the guys 234 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: that we already had in camp or does it indicate 235 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: that the Bengals are really churning through all of these 236 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: rosters to try and find as much defensive line depth 237 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: as they can. 238 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that honestly, their approach is 239 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 6: best fifty three guys that they can or actually sixty 240 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 6: nine guys with these practice squad auditions. I think they're 241 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 6: trying to put together the best football team that they 242 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 6: possibly can. And Isaiah Thomas was a seventh round pick 243 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 6: out of Oklahoma and Cleveland in twenty two and he 244 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 6: played ten years, you know, ten games, I should say 245 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 6: as a rookie, but justin Rodgers also, you know, defensive 246 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 6: tackle inside from Auburn. Dallas Cowboys draft him sixty three, 247 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 6: three hundred and thirty five pound guy. Again, pretty good 248 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 6: football team at Dallas. You know, players, coaches, you become 249 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 6: a sponge. You try to absorb as much knowledge as 250 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: you possibly can with the environment circumstances that you're presented with, 251 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 6: and you try to try to make yourself a better 252 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 6: football player. 253 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: They kept five tight ends, which is a little bit unusual. 254 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: You've got the three veterans Mike Kasicki through Sample and 255 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: Tanner Hudson and the two rookies there were draft picks 256 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: this year, Eric Ball and Tanner McLaughlin. I'm guessing you 257 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: won't have five active on game day. Was this a 258 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: matter of not wanting to lose any of them? 259 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think you're probably right, Dan. I 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 6: mean I think that you know they're they're looking at 261 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 6: the fact that they all have some potential, some traits 262 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 6: that you'd like to have that at the tight end position, 263 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 6: and they can deactivate one of them on a on 264 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 6: a weekly basis. And the other thing is with the 265 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 6: new kickoff rule, the body types that these tight ends 266 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 6: are are very, very valuable to Darren Simmons in terms 267 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 6: of getting down the football field with a good sized 268 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 6: body and separating from blocks from return teams and sustaining 269 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 6: blocks on your return team. So, you know, I think 270 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 6: that a position group that as the kickoff rule kind 271 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 6: of evolves, you know, you want to make sure that 272 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 6: you've got good sized linebackers that can run, good sized 273 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 6: tight ends that can run. So I think all of 274 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 6: those guys you know, fit that bill, and some will 275 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 6: be better than others in that regard. Obviously, for for 276 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 6: Darren Simmons, I don't think we'll see Hudson Usiki doing 277 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 6: doing that that type of thing, but the others are 278 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 6: all capable of doing it, and if one of them 279 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 6: gets nipped up, you get another one on the practice 280 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 6: squad ready to roll. 281 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: There's a delicate dance for an NFL head coach during 282 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: training camp between trying to make sure that your players 283 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: are worked hard and ready, but also trying as much 284 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: as possible to avoid injuries. All of the Bengals projected 285 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: starters before training camp should be good to go for 286 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: the season opener next week against New England. Are they 287 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: more battle tested as well from this year's training camp? 288 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 6: I think so, Dan, I really do. I mean I 289 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 6: think that you know, having joint practices with with two 290 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 6: teams back to back, one on the road, went at home, 291 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: it kind of stimulated, uh, you know, to travel and 292 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 6: getting ready to exert as much physical activity as you 293 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 6: can uh shortly thereafter, you know, and and uh, and 294 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 6: then having them do the same thing when they come 295 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 6: to your place. I think all of that is important. 296 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 6: I think all of that gets you into into like 297 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 6: a rhythm, you know, both physically and mentally, into a rhythm. 298 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 6: And I do think that the practices, in my mind 299 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 6: were pretty darn and tense in terms of it was football, 300 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 6: you know, it was it was more it was fewer 301 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 6: individual drills, shorts and T shirts, you know, running around 302 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 6: looking good and all that. It was. It was more 303 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 6: team oriented, situational football and then unscripted offense against defense. 304 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 6: You know, if you stop us, okay, we have to 305 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 6: start over again. If if we generate a first nown, 306 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 6: we're going to continue to sustain the drive and see 307 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 6: if we can score. I mean, it was football, and 308 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: there was a lot of it, and I think a 309 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 6: lot of veteran players took a lot of snaps that 310 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 6: I thought, from a practice standpoint, were probably as as 311 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 6: intense as maybe anybody's or close to anybody's in the 312 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 6: National Football League. Then you throw in those you know, 313 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 6: those joint practices. I thought that was really good intensity, 314 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 6: particularly in the in the trenches. I thought it was. 315 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 6: And then you know, the number ones get on a 316 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 6: twelve play seventy three yard drive to start the preseason off, 317 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 6: and you know that was it. But that twelve play 318 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 6: drive challenge your football party vascular a little bit. And 319 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 6: I think I think they are. I think they're I 320 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 6: think they're ready to put their best foot forward and 321 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 6: get off to a good start, which is obviously the goal. 322 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: Training camp is essentially in the books. 323 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: Now the Bengals are preparing for Week one against the Patriots. 324 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: Do you have a training camp, MVP? 325 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, this one's interesting. You know, I've got I guess 326 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 6: a few guys that jump out at me for very 327 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 6: since sundry reasons. But Joe Burrow and Von Bell I 328 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 6: think had a huge impact on the offensive and defensive 329 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 6: football team. The common denominator is they're both unbelievably quick 330 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 6: processors and phenomenal communicators. You know, before the before the 331 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 6: ball even snapped, they're making big impacts on their football team. 332 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 6: And the coaches will tell you that. You know that 333 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 6: that you know, Zach will say the feedback that they 334 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 6: get meetings from Joe Burrow as important as anything that 335 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 6: the coaches talk about, and and lou Anoumo just things 336 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 6: the praises of Von Bell's ability to communicate and he's 337 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 6: like a coach on the field. So all of that 338 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 6: is even before the snap of the football. So I 339 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 6: think the the two two of the Killer Bees, Burrow 340 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 6: and Bell had had great camps. And I mean, Joe, 341 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 6: I can remember Dan my my rookie year. I'm thinking, man, 342 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 6: once the last time Kenny Anderson threw an incompletion, when 343 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 6: when did the ball actually go on ground? You know 344 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: that nobody came up with it. I mean it was 345 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 6: like like three days. And that's what Joe Burrow is 346 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 6: capable of doing. That's what he has done, you know, 347 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 6: I mean he he completes passes, man, I mean, he's accurate. 348 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 6: He puts it where he wants to put it. He 349 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 6: puts it in a good spot where his receivers can 350 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 6: make a play on it. And man to see some 351 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 6: of those practices and how many throws he made that 352 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 6: never hit the ground then during the course of the 353 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 6: preseason completed like what eighty three percent. I mean, that's 354 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 6: that's a pretty darn strong camp and that's an obvious MVP. 355 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 6: I think Bell is an obvious MVP. And then you 356 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 6: factor in expectations and impact on the team. You expect 357 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 6: his high expectations for both those guys. But I thought 358 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 6: Yosi in the slot was consistently effective on a day 359 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 6: to day basis. I thought Yosi Vosh made a statement said, 360 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 6: you know what, I know this slot position is available, 361 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 6: and you know, Tyler Boyd moved on and I'm going 362 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 6: to put the flag on the ground for this particular position. 363 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 6: I thought he really, he really went after it. I 364 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 6: thought we talked about Cedric Johnson. I thought, Cedric Johnson, 365 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 6: you know, he's going to play more than expected, probably 366 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 6: at a very important position. And so Cedric Johnson, you know, 367 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 6: I think stepped up and showed that he belonged. I 368 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 6: think Eric al Amon strong and he could have a 369 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 6: real impact on the football team. I thought his training 370 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 6: camp was effective. And then Mumah obviously is a great story. 371 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 6: You know, you get a kid coming out of nowhere, 372 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 6: I'm making tackles all over the football field, and he 373 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 6: earned a role. Now that role might not have as 374 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 6: big an impact on the football team initially the role 375 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 6: that he's carved out, but you know, god forbid injuries 376 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 6: or whatever else. You never know how roles might expand. 377 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 6: But I think it's a sign that they had a 378 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 6: very good camp and they have a pretty good football 379 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 6: team that all these guys you can talk about man 380 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 6: maybe having a bigger impact on the football team in 381 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 6: some cases than you anticipated, and you know, meeting the 382 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 6: level of expectation the impact on the foot faul team 383 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 6: that you were hopeful of. So I think that's pretty 384 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 6: good indicator that they might be pretty decent. 385 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: All right, you mentioned a bunch of guys that had 386 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: great camps, all worthy of consideration for MVP of training camp, 387 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: but you did not mention mine. So this works out well. 388 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: My training camp MVP is a guy who only took 389 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: part in the first half of training camp in one 390 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: preseason game, and that is a Marius Mims. 391 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's why. 392 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: If we go back to the twenty twenty one draft, 393 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: we all remember the debate was going on in Cincinnati. 394 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Should you take Jamar Chase or should you take Pine Sewel. 395 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: I think the Bengals now have both. If a Marius 396 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Mims is able to stay healthy, he can be Pane sewell. 397 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: So it took a few years to get both, but 398 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: I think based on what we saw in that first 399 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: half of training camp, a Marius Mims can be that 400 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: type of player had right tackle for the next decade 401 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: for the Bengal That's why. 402 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 6: I love you, Dan, you love you picked an offensive 403 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 6: lineman his MVP. 404 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: Who is only there for half of camp. 405 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was that was only there. But I'll tell 406 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 6: you what as far as and I couldn't agree with 407 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 6: you more as far as making an impact, Oh you 408 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 6: kidding me. This guy is a genetic phenomenon, man. I 409 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 6: mean his his physical attributes, not only his size, but 410 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 6: the athleticism in all regards that go with that size, 411 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 6: and in size everywhere you can have size. I mean 412 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 6: he is big everywhere, there's no question, and strong and physical. 413 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 6: I mean that that pectoral will heal up. I think 414 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 6: he will have an impactful season, and I think he 415 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 6: will have an impactful career as well. And on top 416 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 6: of that, his intelligence football IQ and his willingness to 417 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 6: learn and his overall personality, I mean, he is. He 418 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 6: could be very very special. He could And I don't 419 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 6: want to jink with any future Hall of Famer talk 420 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 6: and all that kind of stuff, but man, he's got 421 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 6: he's got those kind of possibilities. 422 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: When he has the green light and can play again. 423 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Would you like to see them work him in for 424 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: some series during the course of the game. What kind 425 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: of game plan would you prescribe for Amarus Mims to 426 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: get his feet wet? 427 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 6: In the NFL it's a twofold thing house Trent Brown 428 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 6: handling things. And how much can he can he take? 429 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: Uh? 430 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 6: And then how much do you want to go with Mems? If? If, 431 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 6: if only, if, and only if he's ready to go, 432 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 6: Because I did. I did have one of those, Dan, 433 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 6: and mine was right in the belly, right in the 434 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 6: middle of pectoral, and I remember I tried to come 435 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 6: back too soon, and I you know, I probably tried 436 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 6: to come back two days too soon, and I learned 437 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 6: a lesson, and I sat out again for two more days, 438 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 6: and when I came back that time, yep, okay, So 439 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 6: don't rush it. And they've done a really good job 440 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 6: in that regard. I don't think his you know, obviously 441 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 6: no surgery or anything. So I'm not trying to sound 442 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 6: an alarm bell. I think he's going to be fine, 443 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 6: and I think they handled it well, even though he's 444 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 6: a young rookie and the temptation is, man, we got 445 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: to get him back out there. He needs these snaps, 446 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 6: he needs these reps, practice, the way we're conducting training camp, 447 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: one on ones, team drills, all these things are important. Eh. 448 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 6: You got to make sure that thing does not recur. 449 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 6: That you don't want it to be a nagging injury. 450 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 6: So I thought they handled it very, very intelligently. And 451 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 6: I do think that when he can, when they feel 452 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 6: comfortable both medically and coaching staff wise and all of it, 453 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 6: I think they will work him in there. Will they 454 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 6: throw him out there as the starting right tackle in 455 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 6: week one? I'm not sure about that. Have to see 456 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 6: how much he practices this week, which is done. You know, 457 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 6: so next week is big. He gets just the rest 458 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 6: of this weekend off and he has a week to 459 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 6: you know, to show that he's ready to do something. 460 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 6: And then you make an evaluation. Okay, what can Trent 461 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 6: Brown give us? We've got this insurance pulse and this 462 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 6: guy's been effective. It's going to his tenth year. He's 463 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 6: get more experienced than any other player in the team. 464 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 6: Nobody else is going into their tenth year and he's 465 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 6: played effective football. How do we handle this? How do 466 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 6: we just how do we distribute the snaps between these 467 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 6: two guys. So it's it's good that they've got options, 468 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 6: that they got a couple of ways they can go. 469 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 6: But you know, I guess my cautionary tale is make 470 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 6: sure that bad boy is good, and I think they 471 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 6: have because if it's not, and it can literally be 472 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 6: a pain and not just a chest but other places. 473 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: Lamp Enjoy your last weekend before the grind begins. Have 474 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: fun with the grand kids because we are going to 475 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: be working until f I'd be worried this year calling 476 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: Bengals games right up to New Orleans. 477 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 6: That sounds like a heck of a plan. 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On the first 485 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: day of training camp, rookie Dashawn Anthony intercepted a Jake 486 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: Browning pass When I asked him after practice if he 487 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: was looking forward to seeing it when the team watched 488 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: video that night, he said, I really don't want to 489 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: see the good plays. I want to see the bad ones, 490 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: so I know what I need to get better at. 491 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: That attitude is one of the reasons why the Bengals 492 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: drafted the Ole Miss safety in the seventh round and 493 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: helps explain why Dejon made the fifty three man roster. 494 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: As it looked like you were asleep when safeties coach 495 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Kovac's called you with the good news? Did it 496 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: seem like a dream. 497 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: When he called me, I was like, really in the 498 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 3: dead sleep? 499 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 7: So I didn't It was ringing so long, didn't I 500 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 7: didn't see who was calling me. I just answered it 501 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 7: right quick, and I just seen coach and I'm like, 502 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 7: like it, it didn't click until like after he said it. 503 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 7: So it was just a blessing, man. But it definitely 504 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 7: felt like a dream. 505 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 1: So if you were in a deep, peaceful sleep, you 506 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: must have felt pretty good about your chances of making 507 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. 508 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like you know, I got a guardian 509 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 7: angels protecting me, and like it seemed like throughout my. 510 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: Whole process, God always made away. 511 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 7: So I just knew as long as I put in 512 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 7: my I don't do what I needed to do on 513 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 7: my side, then God was gonna do what he needed 514 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 7: to do on his side. 515 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: When Coach called you, he said, what was the first 516 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: thing you wrote down in training camp? And you said, 517 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: to make the team? That was your first goal. You're 518 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: one for one. 519 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, one for one. 520 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 7: That was the first goal, and I mean it start 521 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 7: with that. You gotta make the team to get to 522 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 7: the other goals. So that was just a big one 523 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 7: of the big things that coming in, Like that was 524 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 7: the only thing my mind was get to making the team. 525 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: And now we're working on interceptions for the year and 526 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: stuff like that. 527 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: Are you comfortable sharing goal number two? 528 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: Goal number two? Uh, it was it was carve out. 529 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 7: A role on the team on defense, like already swept teams. 530 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 7: We already know that, but carve out a big role 531 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 7: on defense. 532 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 3: And then the. 533 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 7: Third one was, may how makeover three turnovers this year? 534 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 7: Force over three turnovers and interceptions, force fumble, fourth down stop. 535 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: But just three turnovers. That's it. 536 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: We're visiting with Dejon Anthony. That's a good segue to 537 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: my next question, because you had an interception on the 538 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: first day of training camp, and you had three in 539 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: the first of training camp. When that happened, did you 540 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: start to think, you know what, I'm gonna be on 541 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: this team. 542 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 7: I started seeing it once they put the don package in, 543 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 7: and OTA's like, they're not gonna do that, and then 544 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 7: they continued to do it through camp. 545 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: So as they kept doing that through camp, I kind 546 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: of had an understanding. 547 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 7: As long as I stayed healthy and kept getting better 548 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 7: every day, then I felt like the coaches trusted me 549 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 7: enough to have me on the team. 550 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: So it was kind of like from day one. I 551 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: seen it. 552 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 7: Once they put the down package in, and now I 553 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 7: just know just had to keep praying hard and just 554 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 7: keep doing I need to do every single day. 555 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: You broke your nose in the second preseason game. You've 556 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: got first preseason game. You got a little bit of 557 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: a scratch at the top of your nose, but it 558 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: looks pretty good. Did you have you ever broken your 559 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: nose before? And how are you doing? 560 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 7: No, sir, I never broke nothing. I've never been really 561 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 7: injured ever in my life, So do nothing to me. 562 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 7: Like I was practice in the next day when we 563 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 7: was right this in, they just put it. I I'm 564 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 7: wearing a face mask regardless. Now, no matter what the 565 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 7: face mask, the visor is on every single practice, it 566 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 7: could be raining the advice they gonna be on because 567 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 7: it doesn't hurt. 568 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: Until somebody hit it. I guess I hit my nose 569 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: that it hurt, but I don't feel it normally. I 570 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: could breathe normal. I'm good. 571 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: And you didn't wear the visor previously because it is 572 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: a little bit harder to breathe. 573 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: Is that the case? You know? 574 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 7: When you start camp, a lot of coaches and people 575 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 7: recommend like, don't have the visors in because you gotta 576 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 7: get your breath back in. Uh, you start warning advisors 577 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 7: when they get a little cold or stuff like that. 578 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: That's what I usually do. 579 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 7: So I didn't have it in the first game, and 580 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 7: I didn't have it the whole first couple of weeks 581 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 7: of practice. 582 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: Was I regret it? 583 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: Now you're a visor guy. Now you you told me 584 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: in a previous interview early in training camp that everything 585 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: you do you do for your family a How did 586 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: they take this news that you have made the Bengals 587 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. 588 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 3: Is our rais is on Facebook right now? They all 589 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: on Facebook. 590 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 7: Monty called me krying, my dad called me krying. So 591 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 7: they took it just like the draft day draft party. 592 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 7: It's just a lot of emotions in there because now 593 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 7: it's like official. So now they's just where they getting 594 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 7: all they jersey's more jerseys now getting ready to come 595 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 7: to the first game. 596 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: First game, My birthday game. Good timing. 597 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, we play sit to my as my birthday septem 598 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 7: a knife, So it's gonna be a good birthday celebration. 599 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: The final thing for dayshon Anthony, You've come a long 600 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: way from Division two Shepherd University in West Virginia. Does 601 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: it seem a little surreal that you are now truly 602 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: an NFL player. 603 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely does. Man. 604 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 7: It's like I said all the time, I'll just give 605 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 7: the glory to God, and I'm super blessing. 606 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: I'm just ready to you working. I'm just ready to 607 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: keep working. 608 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 7: But it's definitely one of the biggest blessings that a 609 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 7: lot of people lost jobs yesterday and I'm one of 610 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 7: those guys that didn't. And I knowe is only one 611 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 7: person that can make that happen. That's the Man above. 612 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: So I'm just blessed you earn this objective number one 613 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: achieved onto objective number two. 614 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: Thanks. 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