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Speaker 1: Morning six to ten Morning. Everybody is DJ en Vy
Speaker 1: Angela Yee Scholamine the guy we are the Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: got a special guest in the building. That's right. He
Speaker 1: probably had your grandma butt naked in the video at
Speaker 1: some point in Miami's own Uncle Luke, Hey, man, what's happening.
Speaker 1: Got to be your grandma, Probably your mama, mama's mama's
Speaker 1: I had mama's naked, damn right, and maybe your baby
Speaker 1: mama too. If you're in the music business, if especially
Speaker 1: if you're a DJ, I did have your mama in
Speaker 1: heavy shots by it Eavy, I didn't have your mama.
Speaker 1: Your mama wasn't my video? What you fifty yeah, grandma's man, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: mama's mama. No exactly what you buy thirty five? Oh yeah?
Speaker 1: So mama, Hey, hey, you gotta you gotta go home
Speaker 1: and check your girl and say, mom, you did you
Speaker 1: try to go to the show. But listen, Luke still
Speaker 1: has some girls getting naked. Because my girl, Gigi, she
Speaker 1: has a club Vanity, and she was saying that Luke
Speaker 1: was there a couple of months ago. And he made
Speaker 1: the girls do things they've never done before. They had
Speaker 1: what was it? What happened Luke? I can't say that
Speaker 1: on the Rhea it was a eating train. There you go.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to use it. It was a It
Speaker 1: was a train bunch of girls like the caterpillar, like
Speaker 1: they all eat each other out walking. Well, you have
Speaker 1: a caboose and then you have you know the beginning
Speaker 1: of the train, and then the train just goes around
Speaker 1: the clube. Oh you had a real train? Yeah, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: make sense. It's like a congoline the beginning. How did
Speaker 1: Uncle Luke get started, especially with all this raded ar
Speaker 1: stuff because you was raded You gotta read the book
Speaker 1: a Luke, because let me tell you something. I read
Speaker 1: the whole book. Okay, it was fascinating. I read it
Speaker 1: all in two days. And it really gives a whole
Speaker 1: history of Luke, what he was like when he was younger,
Speaker 1: his family background, talks about growing up in Miami, going
Speaker 1: to Liberty City, the politics of Miami, because you know,
Speaker 1: we go to Miami all the time, but we don't
Speaker 1: know the history of Miami. So this book really breaks
Speaker 1: it down. So it all started, would no I didn't well,
Speaker 1: you know, we all came the Uncle Luke business start. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean basically just like she said. I mean, in
Speaker 1: the book, I talk about, you know, the beginning of
Speaker 1: Miami because just like you said, a lot of people
Speaker 1: come down there, but they don't know the history. They
Speaker 1: don't know Miami was forty percent African Americans. They don't
Speaker 1: know Miami was built on the backs of of the Bahamians,
Speaker 1: you know, and what you see right now ain't what
Speaker 1: it was before. You know, we couldn't go to Miami Beach.
Speaker 1: We would have to be off the beach at six o'clock,
Speaker 1: you know, in this little area call over Town. You know,
Speaker 1: you would perform on the beach, but then you have
Speaker 1: to stay there. So I kind of bringing in full
Speaker 1: full full of you know how you know, I was
Speaker 1: taught by my uncle and by my dad, and you
Speaker 1: know what I became of after that, you know, as
Speaker 1: far as going through all the politics of things that
Speaker 1: had to go through going to the Supreme Court, you know,
Speaker 1: uh and just like everybody else, you know, I started
Speaker 1: out of you know, as a DJ. You know, I
Speaker 1: was interning at the radio station in Miami. And from that,
Speaker 1: you know, I learned the business that way, you know,
Speaker 1: brought down a little group, Two Live Crew, and before
Speaker 1: you know it, you know, had to change what they
Speaker 1: did because a lot of people that I talked about
Speaker 1: in the book, a lot of people don't know Two
Speaker 1: Live Crew probably was the first conscious rap group. You know,
Speaker 1: on one side of it, yeah, it was one side
Speaker 1: of his guy damned euriv Lot. And then the other
Speaker 1: side of it was Chris uh and and Uri wanted
Speaker 1: to do conscious music. And then he, you know, once
Speaker 1: I said, hey, look man, let's do this this booty
Speaker 1: shaking music with a little bit of dolo mighty in it,
Speaker 1: mister mix was uh put it together? He was like, Nah,
Speaker 1: I ain't with it. You know he was, you know,
Speaker 1: he's actually from Both of the guys are from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: People don't really know that, you know, uh that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: these guys are from here. And that basically how the
Speaker 1: group started. And before you know it, you know, I
Speaker 1: started going to jail and became the first person, you know,
Speaker 1: hip hop artists to go to the Supreme Court. First
Speaker 1: you were pulling your record off the shelves and record
Speaker 1: stores and arresting owners of record shops for selling your record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because a federal judge, Gonzalez he uh, you know, deemed
Speaker 1: my album I've seen and said the album was I've seen,
Speaker 1: and before you know it, you know, they started taking
Speaker 1: the records off the shelf and uh. And then at
Speaker 1: that point I was like, okay, well I don't feel
Speaker 1: like that's right. So I went around the corner, did
Speaker 1: a show at this club named for and Toura and
Speaker 1: actually got arrested, so you know, for the charge. The
Speaker 1: charge was performing that I've seen lyrics in the song.
Speaker 1: You do know, nowadays the stuff you used to wrap
Speaker 1: about then wouldn't even be offensive at all to nobody
Speaker 1: thanks to him going to the the Supreme Court. Yeah, and see,
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing in this book, you know, because
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, really, I mean, keep you
Speaker 1: one hundred. I feel like, you know, I'm the d
Speaker 1: danger feel of the music industry. You know, nobody never
Speaker 1: I told my story, no no respect at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody never told a story that you know. I am
Speaker 1: the person who created a hipop in the South. There
Speaker 1: was no hippopta. Yes, I signed an mc shot D
Speaker 1: and I talked about it in the book as well,
Speaker 1: you know, and and all the different things. You know
Speaker 1: that sticker you see on that. I created that parental advisory,
Speaker 1: you know, because some people you know, called up and say, look,
Speaker 1: the kids are getting the dirty version of it. You
Speaker 1: know what you like, the Jesus of offensive material laid
Speaker 1: on the cross. I laid on the cross and got crucified,
Speaker 1: and nobody want to give me no credit. So I
Speaker 1: basically said, look, you know it's time to do this book.
Speaker 1: You know, I need to sect the record straight. I
Speaker 1: need to let people understand this Miami, that they're going
Speaker 1: to this beautiful place. You know, how they displaced African Americans,
Speaker 1: how they did people. You know, I need people to
Speaker 1: know the history of the South. I need people to
Speaker 1: know the history you know of Luke Records, Two Live Crew, Pitbull, Trick,
Speaker 1: Daddy Acetown, all those all those groups that you know
Speaker 1: we we created within that. Somebody was on a Luke record.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he did uh with lil Ze Man Liz
Speaker 1: the Lollipop So you knocking the boots? Yeah that was
Speaker 1: Carred Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I mean I got him
Speaker 1: fresh out of jail, but he couldn't sign to you, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't signed to me. Well, no, I didn't sign
Speaker 1: him up because that at that time, I was going
Speaker 1: through the Chapter eleven bankruptcy, so I didn't want to
Speaker 1: make him property out of the state because he would
Speaker 1: have then signed to somebody else. You know, I would
Speaker 1: have probably lost him. So I kind of saved his career.
Speaker 1: I tell you, though, I think you're the only selling
Speaker 1: artists that got respect everywhere. I remember, not in New York.
Speaker 1: First came to sell out the total crazy when he
Speaker 1: came to the Tunnel, But that took a long time
Speaker 1: because before that, you talk about coming to New York
Speaker 1: and other artists like run DMC and Public Enemy not
Speaker 1: even wanting you guys to perform or open up for them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I talked about that in the book. I mean, because
Speaker 1: it was like we were the guys, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: and I and I talked about, you know, when we
Speaker 1: would go to New Music and all, you know, and
Speaker 1: the guy Hank Shock, he was like, Yo, this music
Speaker 1: is not gonna do nothing. And then I hopped up
Speaker 1: and said, look, no, you know, this music, you know,
Speaker 1: the South is gonna be forced to reckon with, you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, because you know, other
Speaker 1: Southern artists are gonna take our lead and do certain things.
Speaker 1: So you know, you know, I just try and give
Speaker 1: everybody a good history lesson, you know. And I think
Speaker 1: anybody in hirepop, especially any Southern artists, they need to
Speaker 1: read this book, you know. And even talking about beefs.
Speaker 1: You know, you you got beefs going on right now,
Speaker 1: which is rady G. They need to learn about how
Speaker 1: real beef went on. You know, when we had to
Speaker 1: deal with h you know, the fight with UH with
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg and Dre and all that and everything. So
Speaker 1: how did that happen? How did you end up having
Speaker 1: beef with Doctor? Well it made the record to you know,
Speaker 1: you know, thet yeah, all that. So then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I just came out the blue. We it
Speaker 1: was this sugar night thing going on. Well, he was
Speaker 1: beating up. He was touching up everybody, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you ain't guy in Miami. Well no, he was touching
Speaker 1: up everybody everywhere. Yeah, and then it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're gonna touch Luke up. No, you ain't touching me
Speaker 1: a boss, because yeah, I rap about this booty shaking music,
Speaker 1: but I did live that life, you know, And I
Speaker 1: talked about in the book that ain't somebody ain't proud of,
Speaker 1: you know. And I always tell people, you know, guys
Speaker 1: who lived that life, who went through that, you know,
Speaker 1: they won't be rapping about that is the guys who
Speaker 1: ain't lived that life. They're just telling them stories about
Speaker 1: other people who they they looked up to, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know when they said that,
Speaker 1: then before you know it, and now you know in
Speaker 1: the book we talked about those jacking the rapper, a
Speaker 1: big fight, you know, the big gut fence and all that.
Speaker 1: You know, those are things that went on, you know,
Speaker 1: and right now to Dave, Me and Snoop and everybody
Speaker 1: were cool. Why the shouldn't they feel like you could
Speaker 1: just beat up people everywhere? He was he because he
Speaker 1: was doing it for what though for money like he wanted,
Speaker 1: well he was he was, you know, for him to
Speaker 1: be able to get his way out power. That was
Speaker 1: very disrespectful with doctor Drake saying, say you got a
Speaker 1: gap too, so you know it? Well, yeah, well, and
Speaker 1: then everybody got touched up at jack there. Oh everybody
Speaker 1: got touched up. Oh you gotta read the books. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Stuff everybody. Now, yeah, we ain't no,
Speaker 1: this ain't no meek meals type thing three or five.
Speaker 1: Yeah you yeah, you go. Look, you dissed one of
Speaker 1: the one of the guys down there, you dissed me.
Speaker 1: Then you got the whole city coming at you. I
Speaker 1: can't believe they would do that. You can't invite a man.
Speaker 1: You can't tell a man just suck my penis and
Speaker 1: didn't come to the man. And it didn't come to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You don't supposed to go nowhere near the South, don't
Speaker 1: go to you know what I'm saying. But I guess
Speaker 1: that was back in the days. That's how we deal
Speaker 1: with it back in the day. What about French Montana
Speaker 1: because I heard when he sampled your record, you didn't
Speaker 1: like that too much and there was a problem with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had. I had a little issue with that because
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, how to due respect if
Speaker 1: you're gonna put that much of my voice in a
Speaker 1: song with me still living, you know I'm not dead, right,
Speaker 1: you know you should you should call me up and like, hey, look,
Speaker 1: but the way they kind of did it was kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of interesting because at that period of time,
Speaker 1: I did a column in my in my in the
Speaker 1: newspaper that I that I do columns with about all
Speaker 1: these rappers living in Miami, you know, the little ways
Speaker 1: and all those guys of the world, that they need
Speaker 1: to start giving back to the community. I'll be involved
Speaker 1: in the community. So it was a little bit of
Speaker 1: beef with that. It's like, you enjoy our beaches, you
Speaker 1: enjoy our women, you enjoy our clubs, and I'll get
Speaker 1: back to the community. Yeah, if you're gonna live here,
Speaker 1: you know what, you need to do things in the community.
Speaker 1: And so they didn't tell me that the song. They
Speaker 1: asked me to come do this video like it was
Speaker 1: like Memorial Day weekend. They didn't They didn't tell me
Speaker 1: about the song. They didn't tell me who's in the song.
Speaker 1: But then I saw online that it was this Luke
Speaker 1: and Rick Ross and French Montell a new song, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this? So, you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of got a little bit of upset about it
Speaker 1: and say, hey, look man, you know y'all got to
Speaker 1: have more respect for people. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on this new this new hip hop business,
Speaker 1: but in the old business, if you was gonna sample
Speaker 1: somebody music all at him and that much. You know,
Speaker 1: if you sample it, that's cool. But then you know,
Speaker 1: let me know, let me hear the song or song,
Speaker 1: let me endorse it at least record You know what
Speaker 1: I got. Yeah, I didn't get a check after I
Speaker 1: had a conversation with Okay you talk about yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the right thing. Yeah, you know, well you
Speaker 1: could have sued him if he didn't. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: I was ready to sue the hybody, right, But you
Speaker 1: talk about getting endor, you know, calling people. I've been saying,
Speaker 1: I want to use your record interesting storing the book
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen when you did band in the USA, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talk about that. I mean because back then, when
Speaker 1: I was going through that, unfortunately people don't know nobody
Speaker 1: in the here pop industry. You had my back, guys
Speaker 1: like Salt and Pepper, you know, you name it, Kid
Speaker 1: play the girls, he said, guys like that. You got boy,
Speaker 1: you got really be on your toes up in Him'll
Speaker 1: know them, girl, the girls they're my friends. They're good now.
Speaker 1: But you know they all came out against us. You know,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 1: They need to stop it. I know right, I know,
Speaker 1: you think it a ton to the time Uncle Luke
Speaker 1: had naked Willow. He was the first, even the first
Speaker 1: person to do and sometimes when your first person to
Speaker 1: do something, it is different for people and hard for
Speaker 1: them to embrace it. Yeah, they didn't understand, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so everybody I would I just
Speaker 1: knew everybody was gonna cut in my defense to Russell Simmons,
Speaker 1: everybody in the world, but everybody basically was like kill them,
Speaker 1: kill them off, you know, get rid of them. And
Speaker 1: it kind of blew my mind at that time. But then,
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, the first person that stopped
Speaker 1: to me, that came to me was Bruce Springsteen and
Speaker 1: I talked about in the book. You know, he is
Speaker 1: a you know, old white guy, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about doing this song banned in the USA, which
Speaker 1: is born in the USA, and he was like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. You know, I understand the struggle, and
Speaker 1: so you know, I ended up doing that song with
Speaker 1: his blessings and having a French conversation for Free. Did
Speaker 1: you get Bruce? Did you get Bruce from Free? Did
Speaker 1: you put them on some of them lout girls? No?
Speaker 1: We need to Bruce. You know, Bruce. Bruce probably was
Speaker 1: on them viagraphis back then. I couldn't do that to Bruce.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, what you want me to do the
Speaker 1: Bruce I'm going to corrupt Bruce springsteend. Yes, all American
Speaker 1: white boy, absolutely, I can't do that. Universal or everybody
Speaker 1: like you, stop saying it's a universal you're supposed to say, pussycat,
Speaker 1: tell I mean about sacrifice weekends. This might have been
Speaker 1: something he would have loved. Sacrifice. I know, sacrifice weekend.
Speaker 1: She read the whole book. It was. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you it was this weekend we used to do a
Speaker 1: friend Ron May and Mark Caesar and all us. We
Speaker 1: would have this crazy you know. We was just like
Speaker 1: a sacrifice weekend. And so you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day we would go in and the girls
Speaker 1: would get on my yacht and we would go out
Speaker 1: into the ocean and it would be like sacrificed me.
Speaker 1: We we just was young, crazy people. Was never married. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew not to get married at that time.
Speaker 1: I would tell girls, look, I'm not ready for this.
Speaker 1: You could just be my friend if we gotta you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I like multiple things. You know what I mean, sacrifice,
Speaker 1: Tell them about tell them what it meant when you
Speaker 1: got sacrificed, when you got sacrifice. You know what we did.
Speaker 1: We drunk all kind of great champagne, good looking and everything,
Speaker 1: and then we did golden showers on everybody, just pete
Speaker 1: on all the girls. Yeah, it was wild, I mean,
Speaker 1: and then get out and then we drop them in
Speaker 1: the ocean. But yeah, dropping we put them on. We
Speaker 1: would put a life best on them and drop them
Speaker 1: in the water and then bring him back in the
Speaker 1: out of the water when you get out of pan
Speaker 1: on them. I didn't I listen. I was always the instigator, man.
Speaker 1: I instigated everything I got, you know, just like you
Speaker 1: know the club in Philadelphia, I gotta come in here.
Speaker 1: If you had the girls in here, we'll have them
Speaker 1: dancing on the on the on the county. I didn't
Speaker 1: ring the grandma this morning. Many everybody's daughter they find me.
Speaker 1: You didn't ever feel a bad man? Would you ever
Speaker 1: like a certified pimp? Like? Did you ever consider yourself
Speaker 1: a pimp? Uh? Y'all are just three steps out and
Speaker 1: the colleges. Okay, Yeah, so that TK Kirkland told me
Speaker 1: that that's whatever. That's a that's a bad man nanny.
Speaker 1: H T. K. Kirkland. Yeah, yea, you know, you know
Speaker 1: you gotta colleges here. Did you ever like get girls
Speaker 1: off the street, like girls that wasn't doing too much
Speaker 1: with themselves and you're like, you know what, I can
Speaker 1: put you on your feet, help you get in the
Speaker 1: game the right way. Yeah. Majority of the girls that
Speaker 1: dance for me, you know, it was all all of
Speaker 1: my entrepreneurs right now. Even though they were taking light
Speaker 1: bulbs and putting it in their vagina and lighting them up,
Speaker 1: you know, they ended up you know, becoming nurses and
Speaker 1: and uh make up artists. Yeah. I always you know,
Speaker 1: even right now to day, if I go to the
Speaker 1: strip club, I have a conversation with a girl you
Speaker 1: know about where they are in life. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, they looked just do this for
Speaker 1: the time being. So it's all about empowering even the
Speaker 1: girls in those situations, because a lot of girls, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't want to be there, they just gotta be there.
Speaker 1: Probably management, that's what it's all about, man. Exactly. You
Speaker 1: got to have probably many stop saying that word so
Speaker 1: we don't have to keep editing. He keeps to the
Speaker 1: club and you see an old thing that you had
Speaker 1: and they come back. Man, nobody ground my better be
Speaker 1: in the club right now, man. And they don't look
Speaker 1: and they don't look as good as they used to.
Speaker 1: Why did I ever do that? No? No, actually, let
Speaker 1: me tell you, hey, I wouldn't see I would see
Speaker 1: them in the grocery store every now and then. Damn,
Speaker 1: you don't look too good right now. Yeah, but not
Speaker 1: necessarily trip, I didn't. I didn't get down with the strippers.
Speaker 1: I bet your Facebook in books in box popping, yeah
Speaker 1: it is, yeah, yeah, you already making pictures of the
Speaker 1: old people. What is that? Remember me, Wayne, because you
Speaker 1: said that you was mad that Wayne, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: giving back. Did y'all ever speak? They said, y'all done it,
Speaker 1: blowing up cars and all kinds of stuff. Man. Oh
Speaker 1: he got a little serious. Uh. But now we didn't
Speaker 1: really really speak, you know. Uh. I talked to some
Speaker 1: of the guys, you know, with them, because some of
Speaker 1: the dudes that hang out with them are guys who
Speaker 1: are kind of was raised up with. But now I
Speaker 1: just we we It was like, yeah, these dudes ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be here too long, they're gonna clear anyway. So
Speaker 1: you know, no, I didn't. I didn't feel dispect that
Speaker 1: at all. It was just me telling them, look, I
Speaker 1: don't care whether you and New Orleans or wherever you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the problem with a lot of hip
Speaker 1: hop artists right now today. They don't feel like they
Speaker 1: gotta be involved, you know, in the political process in
Speaker 1: the community and all that. I mean we all did that.
Speaker 1: I mean you had rocked the vote, wrapped the vote.
Speaker 1: We all got involved, whether it was Cube or Russell Simmons, anybody.
Speaker 1: These guys don't do that nine days and that they
Speaker 1: need to do that. They don't know the power that
Speaker 1: they have because all these young people from eighteen to
Speaker 1: twenty five, they have a voter registration card because they
Speaker 1: got in and they voted on Obama. So just the
Speaker 1: meal fact that you just go and saying, look, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna vote you out. You need to give the
Speaker 1: schools better education, they'll they'll. You just don't know. The
Speaker 1: politicians crap on themselves. I mean I do it every day,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, we have block of voters
Speaker 1: down there that we put guys in you know, like
Speaker 1: one of the kids I talked about in the book,
Speaker 1: one of the kids came up my program, Keyon Hardeman,
Speaker 1: you know he was. He's the commissioner of that whole
Speaker 1: area right now over town and everything. Young guy, youngest
Speaker 1: youngest commissioner, sitting commissioner, you know, in the state of Florida.
Speaker 1: And this dude is doing big things. He beat everybody
Speaker 1: who had more twice the amount of money that he had.
Speaker 1: You know, he's fresh out of college, went to fam
Speaker 1: went got his law degree. Practice one one year at
Speaker 1: the Public Defendant's office. And what was like, Noah, you
Speaker 1: ain't got you know, we could do that around the country.
Speaker 1: That's how you say your community, and that's why I
Speaker 1: think people need to do. Your youth program has produced
Speaker 1: a lot of like big name athletes and just people
Speaker 1: in general. These guys ever kicked back something, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, out of my youth program, Liberty
Speaker 1: City Optimists, you know, we got you know, it's going
Speaker 1: on twenty five years today is I mean not today,
Speaker 1: but twenty five years. This this is our twenty fifth
Speaker 1: year annivers We got kids that came out of program.
Speaker 1: For Chad Johnson Antonio' Brien right now, Duke Johnson who
Speaker 1: plays for Cleveland Brown, Devonte Freeman, you name it, played
Speaker 1: for the Jets, Lavonte Davis who played the middle lineback
Speaker 1: for for for Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I mean, we got
Speaker 1: kids all over the country that came out of my
Speaker 1: youth program. So you get free tickets all kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, I mean people. And that's crazy because
Speaker 1: most people think Snooped All was the first one to
Speaker 1: start up you football. I mean I did it twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago. You at University in Miami, heavy and
Speaker 1: they kind of had an issue with you. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I talked about in the book when I paid players.
Speaker 1: You know it was let me tell you, I don't
Speaker 1: think you post admit that you're paid players. Well I
Speaker 1: said it in the book. But it's a reason no.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the reason why, the reason why. You gotta
Speaker 1: understand people. People don't know even back then, right him
Speaker 1: him the rapper in town. I'm the big guy, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm the successful guy, right and I'm sitting there looking
Speaker 1: at the TV every day. These dudes breaking in other
Speaker 1: students rooms to then, you know, get money. They got
Speaker 1: kids at home because a lot of these kids right
Speaker 1: now that play football. They go to these colleges, they
Speaker 1: have kids. You know, people don't know that. So when
Speaker 1: they get to the college, you know, they can't get
Speaker 1: a job because that's illegal. If you play football and basketball,
Speaker 1: now you play tennis and golf, you can get a job.
Speaker 1: You know. So these kids were hurting bad, and I
Speaker 1: just didn't want to see them ruin their life by
Speaker 1: you know, having this opportunity to be able to get
Speaker 1: an education of free education using this football thing. So
Speaker 1: you know, I would go down and be like, look, man,
Speaker 1: if y'all gotta go do that, just call me up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, before you go rob somebody.
Speaker 1: And they would tell me this, or look, I don't
Speaker 1: have no shoes, I don't have no clothes. I don't
Speaker 1: I got send money home to take care of my mama,
Speaker 1: you know, and she's getting put out. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was making all this money, all this money. I mean,
Speaker 1: one kid, Lamar Thomas, you know, he's a coach down Lewinsville.
Speaker 1: You know, there was he was in college and his
Speaker 1: mama was getting put out of our house, you know,
Speaker 1: and I ended up, you know, uh have to uh
Speaker 1: help her pay her mortgage. Yeah, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: and the and the thing is, and when he made
Speaker 1: it in the league, he didn't you know, paid me
Speaker 1: the money back. But this man, mama was getting put
Speaker 1: out of our house, you know, which is incredible. And
Speaker 1: this kid is sitting in school and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm about to leave to go in and go to
Speaker 1: work to pay the bills, and you know, unfortunately, I'm like, Noah,
Speaker 1: I ain't. So if they want to persecute me for that, fine,
Speaker 1: so be it. I'm not about to let no kid
Speaker 1: commit no crime and do those type of things. It's
Speaker 1: almost like they put kids in a position to mess
Speaker 1: up the opportunity. Yeah, like you give them the scholarship,
Speaker 1: but then they can't make no money, and then if
Speaker 1: they go out to do something stupid, they then up
Speaker 1: losing the scholarship, going to jail something, and then they're
Speaker 1: stupid they ruin their life. But no, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things going on could do it. Yeah. When when
Speaker 1: the guy, the guy plays for old House State, he
Speaker 1: goes and uh get a free tattoo, and then he
Speaker 1: gets suspended. He has to then leave school early, he
Speaker 1: can't get a degree. Then goes to to the NFL
Speaker 1: the craziest thing in the world. And the NFL penalize
Speaker 1: him because he you know, he's a kid, and somebody
Speaker 1: paid for his tattoo, which is bananas, I mean, and
Speaker 1: so I you know, I talk about all these different
Speaker 1: things in the book. Has your football team ever played
Speaker 1: snoop football team and beat the dogs? Did you ever
Speaker 1: have to say, remember remember what happened to Jack the Rappers? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We beat him two times. You know, you guys are
Speaker 1: about cowboy fans because your cowboy friend Hardy. How far
Speaker 1: back you go? Let me check his mommy, my father.
Speaker 1: My father's a Dallas cowboy fans. I ain't got no
Speaker 1: I remember Tony do set? Okay? See that's how far
Speaker 1: you go back? Lonely and Jeff and Jeff Frough and
Speaker 1: all them. Yeah you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Do
Speaker 1: you know one of the first African Americans that was
Speaker 1: drafted out of historical Black college went to the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: What his name was? I don't know. See that I
Speaker 1: got you educate you, Bob Hayes. He went to fam You,
Speaker 1: Bob Hayes, one of the fastest men in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how you a cowboy fan of Miami. Man, I'm from
Speaker 1: South Carolina. He tells he talks about it in the
Speaker 1: book and why he is she read it. Tell you
Speaker 1: all about why she wants you to read. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read the book anymore. Don't read and that and that,
Speaker 1: and that's what we need to change. That's what we
Speaker 1: need to change. And that's why, you know, everybody was like, well,
Speaker 1: you need to do the audio book. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I want people to go and read first. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, read the book because I can get
Speaker 1: your audi the book and you'd be you know. But anyway,
Speaker 1: going back to the because the Dolphins, I just did
Speaker 1: not like them, but I thought they treated black players wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean I read a book about Don Shuler when
Speaker 1: Don Shuler was the coach at the at the Baltimore
Speaker 1: Coats at that time. Man, he didn't ended up in Miami,
Speaker 1: and uh, some of the players on the coach thought
Speaker 1: he was racist. And then when he started coaching now
Speaker 1: and now I thought he was a little racist as well.
Speaker 1: He used to run the black guy all the way
Speaker 1: Mercury marsh All the way down to the gold line
Speaker 1: and then he would bring in Jim Kick score a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And then you know in Paul Warfield and you know
Speaker 1: he was running around, you know, uh, catching balls and
Speaker 1: then he was bringing the white guys. So when you
Speaker 1: saw the Super Bowl last year, you said, you knew
Speaker 1: they wasn't giving up the Marshawn Lynchton. No. I knew that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's I mean, that's the game. And you would think,
Speaker 1: you know, they wanted to you know, they wanted u
Speaker 1: Man to be the Yeah, they wanted him to be
Speaker 1: the hero because they know, I mean, that was an
Speaker 1: easy pass. You know, I coached high school football right now,
Speaker 1: and that was an easy pass to make, you know,
Speaker 1: but the guy ended up breaking on it. But they
Speaker 1: wanted the quarterback to be the hero. But then at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, look how crazy football is
Speaker 1: even right now here. We got a quarterback in Miami,
Speaker 1: this got Tennant Hill. He gets one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: and this guy then't been to the Super Bowl back
Speaker 1: to back and he don't get nowhere near the same
Speaker 1: amount of money that he got. Yes, sir, so I
Speaker 1: mean we're still living in some crazy times. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like, um, you don't get to respect you deserve
Speaker 1: as an artist because you weren't a quote unquote traditional
Speaker 1: rapper because like like your style kind of fathered like
Speaker 1: the Little John's of the world. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You wasn't like a McCain. Well, it's more so the
Speaker 1: record label, you know. I yeah, I think me. I
Speaker 1: wasn't a rapper, you know, number one, I was much
Speaker 1: more hype man. You know, I got the party. I
Speaker 1: was more of a DJ than a rapper. So as
Speaker 1: far as the respect in that aspect, you know, I
Speaker 1: could understand. I'm not a rapper. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: very being rocky him. I'm not gonna sit up here
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, well I need to be spoken
Speaker 1: about like Cuba any of those guys that the Doom
Speaker 1: Dudes are rappers. You know, I fit, you know, with
Speaker 1: the Two Live Crew as a as a hype man.
Speaker 1: You know, I did a chance call a response things
Speaker 1: like that. Only the issue that I had with the
Speaker 1: industry is not giving me the same respect that you
Speaker 1: that they gave Craig Coleman, Jimmy Ivens and all them
Speaker 1: other worlds because they came up the same way I
Speaker 1: came up. I remember sitting in the office in Doug
Speaker 1: Morris office. When you know, it was Jimmy Iveen, Craig Commen,
Speaker 1: Craig Commen, he had a little record company in Chicago
Speaker 1: and he was selling a few records, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was the next guy. And then Jimmy, he was
Speaker 1: doing his thing and I'm sitting on the couch at
Speaker 1: the same time. But I was selling records, you know,
Speaker 1: and down in the South when nobody wouldn't give me
Speaker 1: a deal. That I did sell this stuff out of
Speaker 1: the trunk of my car. You know, I just I
Speaker 1: didn't go and make the records at the pressing plant myself,
Speaker 1: you know, and him, I'm doing gospel albums, I'm doing
Speaker 1: I'm going gold and platinum on R and B albums
Speaker 1: and not just two live crewe because I felt I
Speaker 1: want I'm not gonna get the respect as an executive.
Speaker 1: I've only got this type of music here, so I
Speaker 1: got to be a little more versatile. So that's what
Speaker 1: made me do the poison claims, made do you know,
Speaker 1: find the pit bulls and do the age Times of
Speaker 1: the World. So been in the respect of executive. Now
Speaker 1: I don't get no respect. Are you mad you didn't
Speaker 1: get a piece of pit bull man, huh. I signed
Speaker 1: them up, you know, and I let you know. It
Speaker 1: was difficult when we brought him out. You know, when
Speaker 1: I brought him out at the time I was going
Speaker 1: through all this, you know, I didn't have the same
Speaker 1: passion you know that I had. You know, I could
Speaker 1: have gotten an override, but I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think nobody should getting no money off nothing that they
Speaker 1: ain't working for. You know what me and Pit right
Speaker 1: now today, that's like my son. You know, everything that
Speaker 1: he'd do, you know, a large part over that I
Speaker 1: taught him, you know, I mean here here, this kid.
Speaker 1: I mean when you read about him in the book,
Speaker 1: he was not a nice guy. Remember, boy, I used
Speaker 1: to I used to come to Miami around two thousand
Speaker 1: and one. He used to be with Lewis Diaz them.
Speaker 1: That was, yeah, that was he was riding around a
Speaker 1: little I think it was like a little Sadden. He
Speaker 1: was a hood. Yeah, No, that was that was after
Speaker 1: I discovered him. When I discovered him and he was
Speaker 1: straight out of the street of open locker. You know,
Speaker 1: guys were talking, my old man, this dude, it's corny
Speaker 1: Pit Pitt is uh. Pitt is probably one of the
Speaker 1: best rappers that I've ever heard freestyle in my entire life.
Speaker 1: I mean, just like go off the top of the head.
Speaker 1: You know, he just felt into what he's doing right
Speaker 1: now and he took it. Yeah. You know he is
Speaker 1: no joke the freestyle, and I mean he would dissect
Speaker 1: you in a minute. Do you like the evolution of
Speaker 1: Miami music? Do you like where it went? Where it went?
Speaker 1: I don't like where it's saying right now because there's
Speaker 1: no sound, you know. Uh, I don't think the DJ
Speaker 1: Callis and the Rick Rosses of the world are not
Speaker 1: putting on enough. It's from Miami. I mean I had
Speaker 1: the record company. You know, you would never heard about
Speaker 1: Pitt Bull to know. I mean, here's a kid from
Speaker 1: around your trick Danny, you know what I'm saying, Uh
Speaker 1: poison Claim, JT Money. All these guys are from Miami.
Speaker 1: Before I start signing groups like Bust down in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and and uh people like uh MC shoty them.
Speaker 1: You know, I put them guys on in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And these guys, you know, now that you got the
Speaker 1: light and you got the mic, you gotta put these
Speaker 1: guys on. It's a whole bunch of kids down there,
Speaker 1: like you know, yah d y D and you you
Speaker 1: have blades, and it's it's a stupid amount of kids.
Speaker 1: But then what I started thinking about it, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, they gonna put the meat meals and all
Speaker 1: these guys on in the world because they can never
Speaker 1: claim Miami. If you get another guy, if I go
Speaker 1: sign a guy from New York and I'm the big
Speaker 1: guy in Miami. If I sign another big guy in Miami,
Speaker 1: another kid in Miami and blow him up, then he
Speaker 1: gonna take my shine. He's gonna be the big guy
Speaker 1: in Ami. So I started thinking about it down that line.
Speaker 1: But I hope hopefully those guys start doing it. Other
Speaker 1: than that, they're just gonna forced me to get back
Speaker 1: in the business because it's too much tiling down out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: God played there for a minute, so hopefully do good
Speaker 1: and Ross it's okay. You know, I got you know,
Speaker 1: I always, you know, I always a lot of people
Speaker 1: think that, you know, like I go hard on him.
Speaker 1: I speak from you know, I'm the uncle. You know,
Speaker 1: I try to give them constructive criticism, you know, about
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. I mean, I got a good
Speaker 1: real I mean, kale is a guy that you know,
Speaker 1: I discovered on my radio show. He was a DJ.
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, we brought him on the Luke Show.
Speaker 1: I had the show on Friday nights on the Raid
Speaker 1: because they never had a mixed show in Miami, and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm going all over the world
Speaker 1: they got mixed shows, you know, I'll go do it.
Speaker 1: And then you know, all these guys from college to
Speaker 1: pop l Key, you name it. They were on the show,
Speaker 1: to DJ Iri and all of them. So I'm proud that,
Speaker 1: you know, they were able to develop a career through that.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm okay with them. You know, still,
Speaker 1: I think they all need to do a little more
Speaker 1: in the community. I just think they need to get
Speaker 1: more involved. You once said Rick Ross could end up
Speaker 1: like Biggie with all those beefs. You know, Ay, he
Speaker 1: chilled out, You don't. He had too many beefs going on.
Speaker 1: It was too much going on. You know, you're riding
Speaker 1: down the street and you're sitting at the donuts shopping
Speaker 1: they shooting call. I did not want to see that
Speaker 1: for him, you know, because I was me and Big
Speaker 1: was good friends. You know, that was my that was
Speaker 1: my dude and I you know, I just did not
Speaker 1: want to see that that happened to him, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know, just do your music. Man't worry about
Speaker 1: all these dudes. How did you and Big gets so cool? Men?
Speaker 1: Big was cool? I mean because when I used to
Speaker 1: come here to New York, Uh, this guy used to
Speaker 1: find me and we used to hang out. I mean yeah.
Speaker 1: And one thing that was shocking when he told when
Speaker 1: he when men him talking, I know that, you know,
Speaker 1: I vibe with him because I was really vibe with
Speaker 1: too many people. When he told me one of his
Speaker 1: groups was the Poison Can and he started reciting JT.
Speaker 1: Money lyrics. You know, life's a bit so why I
Speaker 1: married one? He was like, man, that's something that Dopey
Speaker 1: Shop heard. And so we ended up becoming friends. Every
Speaker 1: time he comes down to Miami, will hang out. You know.
Speaker 1: I put him in a few orgies and everything. I
Speaker 1: put him in a few ords. Though. We get on
Speaker 1: the boat. That's why when he did the song, he
Speaker 1: was like his lyrics were deep throat on loop boat
Speaker 1: and yeah, so I mean we would we would have fun.
Speaker 1: You know. That was that was my man. And even
Speaker 1: going through all that Pocket and Biggie thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, just having those conversations with he really feel
Speaker 1: he really felt bad about all that. Were you ever
Speaker 1: scared about STDs anything like that, man, because you lived
Speaker 1: the wild life stuff? Well it's called condoms. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was condoms. I mean when I my first couple of
Speaker 1: years in the business, I was wilding out. I was
Speaker 1: a freshman in college. Raw dog king, No, not raw
Speaker 1: dog say that. And after after the first cover of years,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I got to run the
Speaker 1: record company. I gotta go back to the office. These
Speaker 1: dudes here, y'all could do y'all thing, and and uh,
Speaker 1: I just you know, and then I start seeing the
Speaker 1: wild stuff that girls would do on stage and that
Speaker 1: they would do backstage, and and it kind of it
Speaker 1: kind of made me like, yo, I got to be careful.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be picky about who I even
Speaker 1: mess with, you know. And and so I was totally
Speaker 1: opposite of what people thought that was. They thought I
Speaker 1: was just getting in everybody how to make sure you
Speaker 1: you was you know, you'd had them, and they were
Speaker 1: to just did whatever you you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you'd have been telling you still have that kind of powers.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. Yeah, because of man, he doesn't
Speaker 1: want that no more. Why I didn't do your bachelor party.
Speaker 1: I ain't even have one. Oh you really married? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got one of them kind of help because I
Speaker 1: remember when you had your reality So you did not
Speaker 1: like your wife's bachelorette party? No, I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Didn't have that kind of fun. Now, how did you
Speaker 1: convince the woman to marry you? Hey? Man? You know
Speaker 1: that was that was the thing, right you know my
Speaker 1: wife Kristen and she listening to it. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was the thing. It was like, I know who I
Speaker 1: am as a person. I know my mom raised, you know,
Speaker 1: I went through my my time. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you know when everybody in this room
Speaker 1: your first success and when y'all got Hollywood at the beginning,
Speaker 1: y'all just popped off. And you know I did that,
Speaker 1: so you know the whole thing. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: I know who I was, and it was it was
Speaker 1: great to know that women that I did like and
Speaker 1: I talked to and it was like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be bothered with you because I know y'all rappers,
Speaker 1: y'all just wild and I know y'all, you know, you
Speaker 1: freaky man and all that, and I would be like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not like that. And then I always knew that
Speaker 1: the woman that I would end up marrying would see
Speaker 1: me as a person not must sow the business. Because
Speaker 1: if you saw me from the business standpoint that I mean,
Speaker 1: you want me because of the business that I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't want the actual person. So you know, I
Speaker 1: got lucky. You know, ain't got my wife. We've been
Speaker 1: married for seven years, and I'm I'm lucky we were
Speaker 1: didn't never questioned, nothing like I see that video of
Speaker 1: you in Japan, then six girls suck you off on stage.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel. No, No, she ain't
Speaker 1: question I'm sure she read the buck. No, no, she
Speaker 1: questioned me. One time she questioned me what I was
Speaker 1: going to the Hip Hop Honors show. And and this
Speaker 1: this reporter, this young light skin reporter came up to
Speaker 1: me with a microphone and it was like she was like, oh, so, Luke,
Speaker 1: how are you doing and who is this? And then
Speaker 1: at that period of time, she thought that I was
Speaker 1: actually sleeping with that reporter. Who was it? Really? Angel? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I never I'm doing Yeah, I told him doing
Speaker 1: an interview. Anytime I'm doing an interview with Angela, she
Speaker 1: do a double take. That's crazy. That was you used
Speaker 1: the reporter. Yeah, she was like that you try to
Speaker 1: get me to do porn at point? Yeah? Yeah? Would
Speaker 1: she be good as a porn star? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see that here. That's yourself working with
Speaker 1: have been right there. He didn't made me think about
Speaker 1: it for a second. He was like, you thought about
Speaker 1: doing poring and getting the porn full time? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want me tell the show. I went to a
Speaker 1: porn set one time, and I was that just I
Speaker 1: was like, this ain't for me. Disgusting. Oh it was disgusting.
Speaker 1: You know. It was like women just sitting around waiting
Speaker 1: to get knocked down. That's like, yeah, no, Luke, party spontaneous,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's fun. Champagne is flowing in
Speaker 1: the moment, like, don't tell me you're gonna type stuff exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like, you did not come here for that, but
Speaker 1: you found yourself up there on stage and doing things
Speaker 1: that you didn't think you were gonna be doing because
Speaker 1: you got saved by Luke. Oh my god, that's why
Speaker 1: the name of the book is the Book of Luke.
Speaker 1: The next book is gonna be called Saved by Luke.
Speaker 1: You got the book the Bible? Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: for comedy purposes, man, just one last time, you need
Speaker 1: to get all the old video Chicken had from the
Speaker 1: early eighties and do one last to see what I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, Man, for comedy, because a lot of them
Speaker 1: doing nothing. I get about ten or fifteen of them
Speaker 1: and just do one last one for comedy. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you the original girl, Uh, Cindy. Cindy had the
Speaker 1: big butt, and that's everybody that she just changed the
Speaker 1: whole world one buff of the body. It was Cindy.
Speaker 1: And right now today Cindy has still has shaped like
Speaker 1: a cold cola with that big butt. She's probably about fifty.
Speaker 1: What's her Facebook? You google this guy, Cindy Mullins. A
Speaker 1: bunch of white people, man, No, this is a black
Speaker 1: girl with a big old ass, all right. But the
Speaker 1: Book of Luke is in stores now. You know I
Speaker 1: read it, so I highly recommend you get. You can
Speaker 1: learn about Luke as an entrepreneur, as a businessman, as
Speaker 1: one of the first people really an independent label owner,
Speaker 1: and just everything that went on with Luke. It was
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I want people to you know, I
Speaker 1: just people to know that the book is not like
Speaker 1: you know, it ain't no just straight wild party is
Speaker 1: real deep you know, and uh and people can you know,
Speaker 1: use it as an educational tool to understand you know,
Speaker 1: how you know the South was born as far as
Speaker 1: hip hop and as as well as you know, the
Speaker 1: different trials and tribulations I had to go through and
Speaker 1: what people will go through in life. And if you
Speaker 1: got dreams, you just you know, do what you gotta do,
Speaker 1: you know, and whatever you stand for, just staying for it.
Speaker 1: Don't fall for anything. Right. Oh you know what bother you?
Speaker 1: When Drake said, I guess after you and Wayne had
Speaker 1: the situation, Drake said, tell uncle Luke, I'm out in
Speaker 1: Miami too. No, it ain't bother me because I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't take it as a as a disc because
Speaker 1: if he did, this mean he would be barred from Miami.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he'd got touched up. You're still getting people
Speaker 1: touched up. Well, I don't have to do it. You know,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of loving night. Take the difference
Speaker 1: between now and then. If you dis one guy, you
Speaker 1: dis that whole city, and you dis his whole crew.
Speaker 1: You're feeling and so that's why I'm like sitting there,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole city of Philly. You should not
Speaker 1: be able to gold here, you know, and your whole
Speaker 1: crew made back music, should be making disc records right now.
Speaker 1: So you know, that's how it was before. I don't
Speaker 1: know this new stuff here. Who you didn't winning that
Speaker 1: beat right now? Oh don't, don't, don't handicapped? That one
Speaker 1: not good right now? You know the score? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a cowboy fan. We got beat drunk? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the series over. I think it's for one drake. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's rough, it's rough. It is rough. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's rough you. I guess it wasn't interesting after you
Speaker 1: and Wain got into it though, because then the car
Speaker 1: started getting blown up and they I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do trying to incriminate with that. I'm a nice guy,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, I'm a nice guy. Nice
Speaker 1: guy with a bad temper. Ye hey baby,