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Speaker 3: Good morning, Crystal. If viewers were watching this, what they
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Speaker 2: Well, longtime viewers know I have an exceptionally long tourso
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Speaker 3: It's all about Crystal stores.
Speaker 4: Though, well, Christ to start the show this morning.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we do the big show though, because the
Speaker 3: protests are continuing, not just in Los Angeles now, they're
Speaker 3: spreading around the entire country. New York is seeing some protesting,
Speaker 3: Atlanta is seeing some protesting. And we have some video
Speaker 3: clips both from Los Angeles and around the country to
Speaker 3: start the show off with today, and we'll break down
Speaker 3: the updates the latter's updates in the clashes between those cities,
Speaker 3: particularly again between Los Angeles, California and the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: Because Crystal, this new cycle is not slowing down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not at all, And I'm interested to get your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Be your first chance on the show this week to
Speaker 2: weigh in. Trump also gave rather disturbing, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: a speech in front of troops at Fork Bragg yesterday.
Speaker 2: And it's all kind of part and parcel building up
Speaker 2: to this big military parade this weekend that happens to
Speaker 2: be on President Trump's birthday. We've got tanks rolling into DC.
Speaker 2: We've got some footage of that, and widespread protests planned
Speaker 2: for that day as well. Trump saying that those protests
Speaker 2: are going to be met with force, really not making
Speaker 2: a distinction between whether they are violent or peaceful protesters.
Speaker 2: So extremely ominous developments that we can report on this morning.
Speaker 2: We've also got speaking of ominous, strange video that was
Speaker 2: put out by TOOLSI I'm curious your take Emily on
Speaker 2: what is going on there behind the scenes. But she's
Speaker 2: warning rightfully so about the dire consequences of nuclear war,
Speaker 2: and of course comes at a time of dramatic escalation
Speaker 2: between Ukraine and Russia, so that will be an interesting
Speaker 2: one to get to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what's happening right now in Ukraine is
Speaker 3: also just sort of being buried. I'm not saying wrongly,
Speaker 3: But in the domestic news cycle, we have a really
Speaker 3: crowded news cycle. So we have updates actually on some
Speaker 3: more deadly attacks that we will cover, especially in that
Speaker 3: block and Crystal Stephen A. Smith on the Daily Show.
Speaker 3: We have a clip that everyone is definitely going to
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Speaker 3: the Daily Show, then you already know that you're joined
Speaker 3: the clip in all likelihood. And some more updates from
Speaker 3: Zora Mamdanie's race in New York City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like he has all the momentum will it
Speaker 2: be enough? Big question there, but some interesting new poll numbers.
Speaker 2: We've also got updates out of Israel. We've got some
Speaker 2: comments from Greta Tundberg and the wake of her being
Speaker 2: what President Trump calls kidnapped, which I think is accurate
Speaker 2: by Israel and detained there for a while. Some of
Speaker 2: the other activists are still being held in Israel, but
Speaker 2: she's speaking out. We also have some new video of
Speaker 2: the AID horror scene and new reporting about another AID slaughter. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: my Kakabee, who is our ambassador to Israel, saying, hey,
Speaker 2: we're not too big on this whole two state solution thing,
Speaker 2: really significant change in official US government policy, and we're
Speaker 2: going to be joined this morning by tarn Steinbrckner Kaufman.
Speaker 2: She is an AI expert coming at it from the
Speaker 2: sort of liberal perspective, and so wanted to get her
Speaker 2: take on a bunch of developments. In particular, Meta is
Speaker 2: ponying up a massive amount of cash to try to
Speaker 2: win the race for AGI, or artificial general intelligence. These
Speaker 2: are extraordinary developments that could upend literally all of our lives.
Speaker 2: So interested to see what Taren has to say about
Speaker 2: all of that.
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Speaker 2: that offer. One last news update before we jump in.
Speaker 2: We don't have this bus as an element in the show,
Speaker 2: but apparently Elon I don't know, sometime late last night
Speaker 2: tweet it out that he regards some of the things
Speaker 2: that said about President Trump, so real four going on there.
Speaker 3: I don't know what times on us in, but it
Speaker 3: came at three or four in the morning, and he
Speaker 3: said exactly what Crystal just mentioned. I regret some of
Speaker 3: my posts about President Trump last week. So I guess
Speaker 3: we'll stay tuned.
Speaker 2: For more, Yes, more intrigued there, and I'm sure we
Speaker 2: will continue to cover it all right, let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and get to these ice protests anti ice protests that
Speaker 2: really at this point are spreading across the country. And
Speaker 2: we've got some video we can put up on the
Speaker 2: screen that shows all the different places where these protests are.
Speaker 4: Now going on.
Speaker 2: You know, to be fair, there had been protests prior
Speaker 2: to this moment, but they've certainly exploded in size and
Speaker 2: scope since you know, things kicked off in LA, and
Speaker 2: since President Trump decided to send in the National Guard
Speaker 2: and now also deploy the Marines. Word is that the
Speaker 2: Marines are supposed to actually arrive in LA today. This
Speaker 2: is the some of the images from LA from yesterday.
Speaker 2: We've got New York City, you saw Chicago earlier. I
Speaker 2: know Atlanta had protests as well. I think there are
Speaker 2: just protest plan for even more cities put today and
Speaker 2: going into the weekend, including places like Minnesota. You can
Speaker 2: see Boston here as well. My understanding, Emily, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you saw anything different this morning, but that
Speaker 2: LA was relatively quiet last night. The mayor imposed a
Speaker 2: curfew in the one square mile area of the downtown
Speaker 2: where the protests had been located, centered around that federal
Speaker 2: government building. So she imposed a curfew. I think anyone
Speaker 2: who tried to defy it basically got arrested, and you know,
Speaker 2: I think that's mostly what went down in LA yesterday.
Speaker 2: Here you can see protesters i think, blocking a thoroughfare
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles from yesterday, and we also can show
Speaker 2: you fairly disturbing. You know, you're starting to get some
Speaker 2: of the videos from the police response here. And remember
Speaker 2: this is LAPD, this is not the National Guard, and
Speaker 2: they have certainly had an overwhelming show of force. I
Speaker 2: heard Soccer and Ryan talking yesterday about how difficult it
Speaker 2: is to tell actually between the ordinary police and National
Speaker 2: guardsmen or you know, marines, because the local police departments
Speaker 2: are so kitted out with all of this military gear.
Speaker 2: This really happened in the wake after the War on
Speaker 2: Terror and the war in Iraq. All of that military
Speaker 2: equipment started to come home and you know, basically every
Speaker 2: major police department throughout the country now has looks like
Speaker 2: they're going in ready for battle. So in any case,
Speaker 2: to go ahead and show you this video that is
Speaker 2: you know, really going viral, showing a woman who reportedly
Speaker 2: just like lives in the area of where this protests
Speaker 2: were and was trying to get home and approaches a
Speaker 2: line of the LAPD cops who are there on the
Speaker 2: scene doing crowd control, and they pretty much shoot her
Speaker 2: with some sort of non lethal projectile, probably rub bullet,
Speaker 2: point blank.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take a look at a little
Speaker 4: bit of that.
Speaker 5: They're telling her a move, but that's a public sidewalk.
Speaker 5: They're telling her to move. Watch if they shoot her. Whoo,
Speaker 5: holy fuck, they're gonna shoot.
Speaker 3: We're bling stop, she's anger. Come on, we gotta get
Speaker 3: a pup free.
Speaker 2: So shoot her point blank and she says, I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to get home. We've seen a few incidences that
Speaker 2: are like that. We also showed you previously on the
Speaker 2: show that reporter from Australia who is also hit with
Speaker 2: a rubber bullet. And yeah, they're not going to kill you.
Speaker 2: They're les lethal I think they call them emily, but
Speaker 2: they can do some damage. I've been seeing the injuries
Speaker 2: come out in any case. Before we get into the
Speaker 2: latest from Gavin Newsom and Trump's speech and all of that,
Speaker 2: just wanted to give you a chance to give kind
Speaker 2: of top line thoughts about what you make of this
Speaker 2: situation and how this is all unfolding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, I think I tend
Speaker 3: to think people have, from a political perspective, a hierarchy
Speaker 3: of priorities, and I think that a lot about Trump.
Speaker 3: We're like analyzing Trump's decisions to do various different things,
Speaker 3: whether it's you know, deporting people for anti Israel op eds,
Speaker 3: students for anti Israel op eds, are attempting to deport
Speaker 3: them for anti Israel op eds, or you know, going
Speaker 3: turning the screws to Harvard in novel ways. I tend
Speaker 3: to think that sometimes it's the people don't like the
Speaker 3: way that Trump approaches the situation, but they still and
Speaker 3: this is a mistake. I think that some like mainstream
Speaker 3: Democrats make the average American still, though doesn't like what
Speaker 3: the actual status quo policy is less. So it's not
Speaker 3: that like people really really are, you know, on board
Speaker 3: with Donald Trump militarizing responses to protests and they just
Speaker 3: love it and all of that. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: a lot of average Americans look at that and really
Speaker 3: don't like to see the militarization of like local law enforcement.
Speaker 3: Where to the point that you were saying, Sager and
Speaker 3: Ryan were discussing, it looks like they're like in Fallujah
Speaker 3: when they're policing like regular demonstrations, and you know, far
Speaker 3: bit for me to defend the LAPD. Which I'm not
Speaker 3: surprised at all by that video that we just showed,
Speaker 3: which I think was sourced from Reddit of a woman
Speaker 3: just getting popped by rubber bullet, which as she's trying
Speaker 3: to get home, doesn't seem to be a threat to anybody,
Speaker 3: isn't with a crowd. So yeah, I don't think anybody
Speaker 3: likes to see those scenes. I honestly personally think that
Speaker 3: when we have tens of thousands, I mean I pulled
Speaker 3: up this Homeland Security report from last year of the
Speaker 3: non detained people on the national Docket or ICE at
Speaker 3: the time. So this was July twenty first, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: sixty two thousand people for assault that were non detained,
Speaker 3: convicted criminals convicted of assault roaming the country. Same thing
Speaker 3: with dangerous drugs is how they classify it, sex crimes
Speaker 3: homicide thirteen thousand people. So I think for a lot
Speaker 3: of Americans, they are probably more similar to me aligned
Speaker 3: on that question of like, there are tens of thousands
Speaker 3: of people who are not detained, who are convicted criminals
Speaker 3: who came into the country, even if they're dropping the
Speaker 3: bucket for you know, I agree with that. I think,
Speaker 3: actually like the Cato Institute statistics are probably correct, the
Speaker 3: pro immigration statistics are probably correct that the average migrant
Speaker 3: commits crimes at a lesser rate than the average world.
Speaker 3: I don't take any issue with those statistics, but I
Speaker 3: think there are a lot of dangers. I see sanctuary
Speaker 3: city policies, sanctuary state policies, California basically a sanctuary state.
Speaker 3: I see those as subsidies the cartels, which allow people
Speaker 3: to go into the country and not be detained, not
Speaker 3: be well I should say, I shouldn't say attained, but
Speaker 3: not be deported, And that allowed a lot of trafficking
Speaker 3: of people across the border, and cartel's made money off
Speaker 3: of just about every single one of them. So I
Speaker 3: don't like how Trump is approaching it. I also really
Speaker 3: don't like I think I like less how California has
Speaker 3: approached it over the course of the last decade. But
Speaker 3: we likely disagree on that.
Speaker 2: Crystal, Well, well, let's be clear you are at odds
Speaker 2: with Steven Miller on that. Yes, because yes, what he
Speaker 2: explicitly said and the and has implemented through ICE. He
Speaker 2: explicitly said to the leaders of ICE, why are you
Speaker 2: going after criminals? Go to the home depot, go to
Speaker 2: the seven elevens. So the priority is not on dealing with,
Speaker 2: you know, criminals, because the problem is that, yes, of
Speaker 2: course there is some number of undocumented inmmigrants who have
Speaker 2: committed crimes, been convicted of crimes, been accused of crimes,
Speaker 2: et cetera. It is not the millions of people, and
Speaker 2: it would not provide the mass show of force that
Speaker 2: Stephen Miller wants. So you will find very few people,
Speaker 2: including myself in this country who say, yes, we want
Speaker 2: to keep the convicted criminal undocumented immigrants. The approach that
Speaker 2: they're taking will make it more difficult to remove the
Speaker 2: actual dangerous individuals that you're speaking about, and instead they
Speaker 2: are targeting the you know, kids, the elementary school graduation,
Speaker 2: the day laborer who's out just trying to get a
Speaker 2: job and has no criminal record whatsoever. That's who they're
Speaker 2: actually going after, and that is what sparked these protests
Speaker 2: in la in particular, which have now really spread across
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 4: You know, the big picture for me here.
Speaker 2: Is we now have a stat of truly authoritarian, terrifying
Speaker 2: actions being taken here by the Trump administration. I mean,
Speaker 2: to bring in the National Guard over the objections of
Speaker 2: local law enforcement to handle some pretty run of the
Speaker 2: mill protests, the type of thing that you see after
Speaker 2: like you know, a football team wins the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: or a basketball team WINBA Finals or whatever like that's
Speaker 2: where these things started. To call in the National Guard
Speaker 2: over the objections of the governor insane, unprecedented, truly in
Speaker 2: terms of these dynamics. To bring in the Marines is
Speaker 2: utterly deranged. Then you have this speech that we're going
Speaker 2: to show you some clips from here in a moment
Speaker 2: in front of active duty troops getting them to cheer for,
Speaker 2: you know, calling GAVINUS a news scum and going after
Speaker 2: the fake news meeting. I mean, it's just a hyper
Speaker 2: partisan speech that you're getting active duty soldiers behind you
Speaker 2: that you handpicked, by the way to make sure that
Speaker 2: they had the right politics to be behind you to
Speaker 2: cheer for. Then you add to that this military parade
Speaker 2: planned for his birthday for this weekend, where he says
Speaker 2: any protester, not just smiling person, any protesters are going
Speaker 2: to be met with force and you know, the pattern
Speaker 2: is pretty clear here. And then you mentioned some of
Speaker 2: the other actions that have been taken, whether it's the
Speaker 2: you know, arresting students for writing an op ed or
Speaker 2: you know, the attacks on me, the tax on universities,
Speaker 2: all of this amounts to an extraordinarily dangerous authoritarian power grab.
Speaker 2: There is nothing and I'll play the Gavin Newsom sad
Speaker 2: in a moment where he makes this. I believe he
Speaker 2: makes this point in the SOD as well. There is
Speaker 2: nothing that limits this federalizing of the National Guard to
Speaker 2: just LA or to just California, or to just sanctuary
Speaker 2: cities or sanctuary states or wherever it is that you
Speaker 2: know you have a policy issue with them. There is
Speaker 2: no limiting principle on it. And so it certainly seems
Speaker 2: like part of the goal here is to normalize the
Speaker 2: idea that it requires the US military in order to
Speaker 2: just enforce the law. I mean, we showed you the
Speaker 2: clip of the LAPD. They're not coming in all like
Speaker 2: hugs and cuddles. They have thousands of cops. You know,
Speaker 2: the Republicans are supposed to be the ones who are
Speaker 2: all about law enforcement, like they are the ones who
Speaker 2: are actually supposed to be trained to deal with people
Speaker 2: who are lawbreakers, and so the notion that you have
Speaker 2: to bring in marines who are trained for combat to
Speaker 2: be deployed against American citizens is something is I think
Speaker 2: a red line that every it's truly un American and
Speaker 2: is a red line in my opinion that absolutely no
Speaker 2: one should accept.
Speaker 3: This could get worse because to the point that you're making,
Speaker 3: there's protests now popping up all over the place. There
Speaker 3: is no is not necessarily a element on the Trumpet
Speaker 3: administration's interest in expanding around the country. If anything, I mean,
Speaker 3: I think the Trump administration is eager to have that,
Speaker 3: and it's because I think the reason, like the political
Speaker 3: explanation for it, and I don't think we disagree on
Speaker 3: the politics from the Trump administration's perspective, but like they
Speaker 3: want to look like they're leaning into this. They want
Speaker 3: to look like the you know, Gavin Newsom. They hope
Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom gets as much airtime as he can. And
Speaker 3: we actually have a clip of Gavin Newsom giving a
Speaker 3: primetime television address last night and have gotten a decent
Speaker 3: It's gotten a decent bit of play just over the
Speaker 3: last twelve hours or so so let's actually go ahead
Speaker 3: and roll at e x three to get a taste
Speaker 3: of how Gavin Newsom addressed people last night.
Speaker 6: This is about all of us. This is about you.
Speaker 6: California maybe first, but it clearly will not end here.
Speaker 6: Other states are next. Democracy is next. Democracy is under
Speaker 6: assault before our eyes. This moment we have feared has.
Speaker 3: Arrived, and crystal before we get to the Fort braggspeach,
Speaker 3: which we also, as you mentioned, have clips from the
Speaker 3: I just want to say my frustration with that is
Speaker 3: the sanctuary state policies are why it's hard to get
Speaker 3: the tens of thousands of convicted criminals, not even people
Speaker 3: with chargers, but just convicted criminals like that. That's why
Speaker 3: it's actually hard for law enforcement to do it, is
Speaker 3: that they're able to be in California and in these
Speaker 3: places like it does genuinely make it really hard. And
Speaker 3: so I feel like what would be really de escalatory
Speaker 3: is for Gavin Newsom to do what like Muriel Bowser
Speaker 3: has done here in DC and start walking some of
Speaker 3: those policy policies back. But now it's just everyone's kind
Speaker 3: of has dug in because a Trump administration responded in
Speaker 3: a way that Gavin Newsom politically is responding to in
Speaker 3: this way and not entirely without reason. They're calling it
Speaker 3: for his arrest, so you can see why Kavin Newsom
Speaker 3: would react as he did. But we're absolutely no closer
Speaker 3: to solving the legitimate problem. And many such cases, I guess,
Speaker 3: such as the nature of American politics in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm pretty sure Texas is not a sanctuary state,
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, And they're using the same
Speaker 2: type of tactics there, the same type of protests are
Speaker 2: being sparked, and there is a a couple of white
Speaker 2: cities are I think, like Houston is. But yeah, and
Speaker 2: there are quite a large number relatively equivalent population, you know,
Speaker 2: per capital number of undocumented immigrants in Texas as there
Speaker 2: are in California. So, you know, fine, to debate sanctuary
Speaker 2: city and sanctuary state policies, I disagree. I think it's
Speaker 2: important and actually is good for elimination of crime and
Speaker 2: violence to make it so that immigrants feel like they
Speaker 2: can go to the authorities without fearing like they're going to,
Speaker 2: you know, break up their family and be deported out
Speaker 2: of the country.
Speaker 4: Fair to criticize, you know.
Speaker 2: To have a debate about that legitimate policy argument, not
Speaker 2: legitimate to send in marines against American citizens who are
Speaker 2: protesting at a time when you know, the governor, when
Speaker 2: their protests are relatively limited, not out of control in
Speaker 2: some way that the LAPD can't handle, and again zooming
Speaker 2: out as part of a broader authoritarian crackdown and power
Speaker 2: grab against dissent overall in this country. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think part of the reason why they're now using
Speaker 2: National Guards so you know, these active duty soldiers with
Speaker 2: semi automatic weapons, they're using them in ice raids now
Speaker 2: in California, I think, is to present an image of criminality,
Speaker 2: because when you see this force coming in, you assume
Speaker 2: this must be for some you know, super bad guy,
Speaker 2: super villain to create that impression, even though who you're
Speaker 2: really going after is like, you know, again like a
Speaker 2: day labor at home depot or you know, a mom
Speaker 2: with an American citizen kid, and you know, those types
Speaker 2: of more sympathetic cases. So by militarizing the response and
Speaker 2: having that look of the masked ICE agents surrounded by
Speaker 2: the kitted up National guardsmen, you can create a perception
Speaker 2: that these must be hard and criminals they're going after
Speaker 2: when that is, we know not the case. I mean,
Speaker 2: even the guys they sent to Seacoat to rot in
Speaker 2: a slave labor camp for life, the vast majority of
Speaker 2: them were not criminals in any respect, had no arrest
Speaker 2: record whatsoever. And you have to assume the reason that
Speaker 2: they did that is because they just have They just
Speaker 2: there just aren't the number of undocumented criminals that they
Speaker 2: want to project to the nation. So, you know, I
Speaker 2: think Newsome, who I am no fan of in general,
Speaker 2: has actually done an excellent job and a very you know,
Speaker 2: most Democrats are so slow on their feet in terms
Speaker 2: of responding and engaging, and they're only going on the
Speaker 2: mainstream mountlets and only doing these prepackaged things. He gave
Speaker 2: this trimetime address which I thought was relatively effective, but
Speaker 2: he's also been out there mixed it up on Twitter.
Speaker 2: He's done a bunch of different podcasts. He's been very
Speaker 2: aggressive about combating narratives in real time in a way
Speaker 2: that listen, I think his star had really fallen. I
Speaker 2: think he'd really misread the moment early in Trump two
Speaker 2: point zero, and there's just no doubt that this is
Speaker 2: hugely elevating for him. With the Democratic base, and you know,
Speaker 2: definitely makes him more of a contender. Not that that's
Speaker 2: the most important thing right now whatsoever. But we've mentioned
Speaker 2: now a couple of times Trump went to Fort Bragg
Speaker 2: and gave this speech in front of the you know,
Speaker 2: the active duty soldiers that are there, hyper partisan, hyper political,
Speaker 2: typical like Trump rally speech, which you know, I know
Speaker 2: nobody cares about, like the way things used to be
Speaker 2: or the norms. But this is something that would have
Speaker 2: been completely completely unthin thinkable, out of bounds whatsoever, Like
Speaker 2: the idea of soldiers even like overtly expressing partisan political
Speaker 2: beliefs was something that was completely out of bounds until
Speaker 2: you know, really the Trump moment. So let's go ahead
Speaker 2: and take a look at some of how that went down.
Speaker 7: And before going further, I want to say a few
Speaker 7: words about the situation in Los Angeles, California. Have you
Speaker 7: heard of the place where I've deployed thousands of National
Speaker 7: Guard troops and hundreds of Marines to protect federal law
Speaker 7: enforcement from the attacks of a vicious and violent mob.
Speaker 7: And some of the radical left they say, oh, that's
Speaker 7: not nice. Well, if we didn't do it, it wouldn't
Speaker 7: be a Los Ange it'd be burning today, just like
Speaker 7: the houses were burning a number of months ago. Generations
Speaker 7: of army heroes did not shed their blood on distant
Speaker 7: shores only to watch our country be destroyed by invasion
Speaker 7: and third world lawlessness here at home, like is happening
Speaker 7: in California. Commander in Chief, I will.
Speaker 3: Not let that happen.
Speaker 7: It's never going to happen in Los Angeles. The governor
Speaker 7: of California and the mayor of Los Angeles, they're incompetent,
Speaker 7: and they paid troublemakers, agitators and insurrectionists. They're engaged in
Speaker 7: this willful attempt to nullify federal law and aid the
Speaker 7: occupation of the city by criminal invaders.
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
Speaker 7: Very simply, we will liberate Los Angeles and make it free,
Speaker 7: clean and safe again.
Speaker 4: It's happening very quickly.
Speaker 7: But they proudly carry the flags of other countries, but
Speaker 7: they don't carry the American flag.
Speaker 6: They only burn it.
Speaker 8: Did you see a lot of the flags being burned.
Speaker 7: They weren't being burned by people from our country or
Speaker 7: from people that love our country. People that burned the
Speaker 7: American flag should go to jail for one year.
Speaker 3: It's what they should be doing.
Speaker 2: That last piece there, something he has repeated multiple times.
Speaker 2: You know, it has been deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure is a you know, if you pull
Speaker 2: it is fairly popular to criminalize the burning of the
Speaker 2: American flag. But in in case, Emily, what do you
Speaker 2: make of the dynamics of the President Derek giving this
Speaker 2: hyperpartisan speech and you know, eliciting cheers and booze from
Speaker 2: the active duty soldiers there.
Speaker 3: At Fort Bragg. I agree with what you said as
Speaker 3: we were queuing up the video that it's something if
Speaker 3: Barack Obama did it, if even John McCain did it,
Speaker 3: nobody would be happy to some extent, because it's Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: it's something that we're numb to. And I also think
Speaker 3: not without reason, because he's still, at least for now,
Speaker 3: an exception to how he handles a lot of these situations.
Speaker 3: I mean, even I can't envision jd Vance doing anything
Speaker 3: quite like that. I can't envision a Democrat who I
Speaker 3: think would do anything quite like that. But we don't
Speaker 3: really know what happens to these norms after Donald Trump
Speaker 3: is no longer president. So yeah, it's just one of
Speaker 3: the sisters, like, I don't know if this is something
Speaker 3: that we are still in this like temporary Trump moment,
Speaker 3: or if this is something that continues afterwards.
Speaker 2: I think that's a good point because perhaps at this moment,
Speaker 2: he's the only one who can get away with this,
Speaker 2: treating the military as his own personal army effectively, and
Speaker 2: that's certainly the way that he wants them to behave,
Speaker 2: that's certainly the way people want to perceive them, and
Speaker 2: maybe now at this moment, because he's so outrageous in
Speaker 2: so many regards, he's the only one who can even
Speaker 2: remotely get away with that. But once that bridge is
Speaker 2: crossed and that approach to you know, the military deploying
Speaker 2: the military against US citizens and routinely using Marines for
Speaker 2: law enforcement in American cities, once that sort of thing
Speaker 2: becomes normalized, then it doesn't just stay with Trump. There's
Speaker 2: a bridge that's crossed and a genie that's out of
Speaker 2: the bottle that's very hard, if not impossible, to put
Speaker 2: back in. And I think that's what is so incredibly
Speaker 2: alarming to be and others about this moment. It just
Speaker 2: give you a little bit of backstory. Jane Cousten was
Speaker 2: able to obtain the sort of like memo that went
Speaker 2: out about how they picked these guys to be standing
Speaker 2: there behind Trump. She got this note that says they
Speaker 2: need everyone seated by this time. Soldiers sitting in the
Speaker 2: bleachers are to be fit and not look fat. Classic
Speaker 2: soldiers in the bleachers will not be allowed to have water,
Speaker 2: so they must hydrate in no colored patches. If any
Speaker 2: soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the
Speaker 2: current administration, and they don't want to be in the
Speaker 2: audience and they need to speak with their leadership and
Speaker 2: get swapped out. Basically, they don't want soldiers not audio
Speaker 2: is rolling their eyes or shaking their head in disagreement,
Speaker 2: et cetera. So they basically put out like a casting
Speaker 2: call here to get the you know, the guys with
Speaker 2: the right political views are going to be loyal to Trump,
Speaker 2: who aren't going to be rolling their eyes or shaking
Speaker 2: their head or you know, not enthusiastic enough, not cheering
Speaker 2: and laughing and applauding at the laugh lines and the
Speaker 2: cheer lines, et cetera. And so that was how they,
Speaker 2: you know, were able to create this this moment, this
Speaker 2: authoritarian strongman moment for president Trump where it appears like
Speaker 2: the military is serving as his sort of like you know,
Speaker 2: personal uh, marching band, cheerleaders, his his force directly rather
Speaker 2: than the servants and protectors of the American people. There
Speaker 2: were also I mentioned before, he's got this military parade
Speaker 2: coming up this weekend in DC. That is going to
Speaker 2: be a very you know, that's going to be a
Speaker 2: troubling moment because he announced in the Oval Office yesterday
Speaker 2: that those any protests, which they're already protests planned for Saturday,
Speaker 2: for that day, that any protest will be met with force,
Speaker 2: making no distinction between peaceful and violent protesters.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take a listen to that.
Speaker 7: Maybe there a little bit, but it seems to be
Speaker 7: getting less and less because they're going there. They met
Speaker 7: with a very heavy force, and if they weren't, you
Speaker 7: would have that say right now, would be on fire.
Speaker 7: It would be burning down the rest of it, what's
Speaker 7: left over, because the other fire was started because they
Speaker 7: wouldn't allow water into LA. They wouldn't allow water into
Speaker 7: California because they had it all shifted out to the
Speaker 7: Pacific Ocean. Then I turned it around, called him up
Speaker 7: to tell him kind to do a better job. He's
Speaker 7: doing a bad job, causing a lot of death and
Speaker 7: a lot of potential death. If we didn't send out
Speaker 7: the National Guard, and last time we gave him a
Speaker 7: little additional help, you would have Los Angeles would be
Speaker 7: burning right now.
Speaker 6: The reaction to these large scale height operations in Los Angeles,
Speaker 6: should people expect to see similar operations in the.
Speaker 8: Rest of the country and we'll similar protests.
Speaker 7: The out and what was always as you know, we're
Speaker 7: moving murders out of our country that we're put here
Speaker 7: by Biden or the Autopen.
Speaker 8: The Autopen really did.
Speaker 7: A very simple rule of engagement. If they're dangerous, if
Speaker 7: they're throwing concrete or bricks, if they're spitting in the
Speaker 7: face of the police or whoever's in front of them,
Speaker 7: if they're punching people, if they're doing all of the
Speaker 7: things that you see done for the last three nights,
Speaker 7: that I would say is engagement.
Speaker 2: So that was actually more specifically about what's going on
Speaker 2: in California. I think we have the sought for the
Speaker 2: next block about the military parade where he says, you know, protesters,
Speaker 2: we met with overwhelming force, but you know he's making
Speaker 2: these claims, say oh La California and beyond fire if
Speaker 2: we hadn't sent the National guardsmen. The reality is most
Speaker 2: of the National guardsmen that have been sent I think
Speaker 2: it's like four thousand at this point, have not been
Speaker 2: given orders, are not really doing doing much of anything.
Speaker 2: In fact, local law enforcement LAPD is having a divert
Speaker 2: resources to protect the National cartsman who've been given no orders,
Speaker 2: in nothing to do, which underscores the fact that, I mean,
Speaker 2: even Trump himself has said that things have quieted down
Speaker 2: in LA. Of course he wants to take credit for it,
Speaker 2: but underscores the fact that, as Newsome and Karen Bass
Speaker 2: have been saying, the scope of the protests which were
Speaker 2: within like largely within like one square mile a few
Speaker 2: city blocks in downtown LA, were well within the capability
Speaker 2: of the LAPD to handle. And you know, bringing in
Speaker 2: the National Guard did nothing but inflame tensions and make
Speaker 2: the protests much larger than they would have been otherwise.
Speaker 3: So also to the point Crystal about where this goes
Speaker 3: from here, let's put a two on the screen. This
Speaker 3: is an indication that the protests are going to continue
Speaker 3: to spread to other cities. As a report from NBC News,
Speaker 3: we should also go through a three. This is Jennifer
Speaker 3: Griffin of Fox News noting that the seven hundred Marines
Speaker 3: ordered to help in LA have not yet arrived to
Speaker 3: help control the riots. The Marines will remain at Seal
Speaker 3: Beach south of LA and will be undergoing training for
Speaker 3: a few more days, which Crystal. A few more days
Speaker 3: of training in a situation like this sounds like a
Speaker 3: delay that's intentional to make it look like the Marines
Speaker 3: were involved without ever actually putting the Marines in the situation.
Speaker 3: Because after a few days of training, which is already
Speaker 3: rather nebulous, I don't know that they actually are going
Speaker 3: to find a situation where they put the Marines in
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. So that's an interesting one to watch as well.
Speaker 3: It almost is like Pete haig Seth wanted to respond
Speaker 3: to Donald Trump's suggestion and said, Okay, We've got the
Speaker 3: Marines on it, and they're they're undergoing their training for
Speaker 3: you know, civil unrest, and then while the riot's over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean the reporting I saw as are
Speaker 2: supposed to arrive today, so we'll see. I hope that
Speaker 2: your analysis is the correct one. It also just underscores
Speaker 2: the case like Marines are not trained for crowd control.
Speaker 2: They are trained for offensive combat missions, not to go
Speaker 2: in and act in a law enforcement enforcement capacity against
Speaker 2: American citizens. So, like I said that, what I saw
Speaker 2: is that they're meant to arrive today. We'll see what
Speaker 2: happens there and what use they're put to.
Speaker 3: And if they're already arriving after the mayor has implemented
Speaker 3: a curfew.
Speaker 2: Curfew that basically quieted down. Now, I do think there's
Speaker 2: another major flashpoint this weekend with the protests, and you know,
Speaker 2: ice rates are continuing. What I read in the La
Speaker 2: Times this morning is they're actually expanding outside of the
Speaker 2: city into more rural areas, you know, going after farm
Speaker 2: daily laborers and things of that nature. So you know,
Speaker 2: the ice rates are not going to stop. So the
Speaker 2: provocation that originally sparked the protests are not going to
Speaker 2: end either. So you know, certainly the conflagration, I think
Speaker 2: it's way too early to say that that is over.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of reasons to still be really concerned
Speaker 2: about where this is all headed.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: There has been some some legal action that we wanted
Speaker 2: to update you on. Gavin Newsom put this up on
Speaker 2: the screen. Voden emergency motion to block Trump's I believe
Speaker 2: and he agrees a legal deployment of Marines and National
Speaker 2: Guard in LA. He was asking for this a decision
Speaker 2: to be made on this and a tro to be
Speaker 2: issued within two hours. The judge said, no, we're not
Speaker 2: going to issue a tro in the timeframe that you want. Instead,
Speaker 2: a hearing is set for Thursday to consider the merits
Speaker 2: of the lawsuit here. And you know, in terms of
Speaker 2: the legality, Trump has not invoked the Insurrection Act, which
Speaker 2: would give him much more broad powers. Instead, he used
Speaker 2: these it's called Title ten powers that seem on their
Speaker 2: face to require the consent and for the governor to
Speaker 2: actually be the one that issues the order to federalize
Speaker 2: the National Guard, I mean, the deployment of the Marines.
Speaker 4: I don't even know.
Speaker 2: What legal pretext they are using to justify any sort
Speaker 2: of use of the Marines in a law enforcement setting
Speaker 2: in LA. So that seems to be to be even
Speaker 2: more tenuous. But we'll see what the courts have to
Speaker 2: say about all of this.
Speaker 3: Well, christ to say, actually we have a five. This
Speaker 3: is the next element to put on the screen. This
Speaker 3: is from the San Francisco Chronicle, reporting that says, we
Speaker 3: obtained a memo from DHS Secretary Christie no I'm asking
Speaker 3: d D Secretary Pete Haigsatz the grant soldiers the authority
Speaker 3: to detain or arrest quote unquote lawbreakers in LA. This
Speaker 3: would be a step towards the Trump administration invoking the
Speaker 3: Insurrection Act. Experts say, so to the question that you
Speaker 3: just raised, are they trying to pave the path to
Speaker 3: the Insurrection Act with some of this? I think is
Speaker 3: an open question as well, especially with the reporting and
Speaker 3: actually what we saw last night about expansions into other cities.
Speaker 4: I think it's quite likely.
Speaker 2: In a six Stephen Miller has been really leading the
Speaker 2: sort of propaganda charge, and he says here that this
Speaker 2: is the definition of insurrection. LA and California leadership demand
Speaker 2: the right to illegally import unlimited foreigners into America, to
Speaker 2: control America's entire immigration policy by FIAT, and if they're
Speaker 2: not so permitted, they'll allow mobs to target Ice with
Speaker 2: impunter I mean, this is just absurd. First of all,
Speaker 2: you know, we we've had court rulings at this point.
Speaker 2: Steven Miller is always using the language of invasion. We've
Speaker 2: had multiple courts rule at this point in the context
Speaker 2: of alien enemies ec this is not an invasion. This
Speaker 2: is you know, absurd, like, this is way beyond the
Speaker 2: bounds of what that language would imply. And it's not
Speaker 2: like Newsome and Bass were standing in the way of
Speaker 2: Ice rates. You know, he makes it sound like they
Speaker 2: were blocking lawn for the ICE from doing anything and
Speaker 2: going in and you know, deporting immigrant. That's just not
Speaker 2: the case whatsoever. But I think the important thing here
Speaker 2: is the use of the word insurrection and the attempt
Speaker 2: to lay the groundwork, the rhetorical groundwork to build up
Speaker 2: to an invocation of the Insurrection Act, which I've been
Speaker 2: pointing out. On Day one, Trumpet signed an executive order saying, hey,
Speaker 2: check into it was Christy Doom and a couple other
Speaker 2: off I think heg Seth, I don't remember a couple
Speaker 2: other officials. Hey do an analysis and tell me whether
Speaker 2: I should invoke the Insurrection Act now. So he's been
Speaker 2: looking for an excuse to do this. We've also got
Speaker 2: reporting now that he's been from the jump looking for
Speaker 2: a pretext in order to send in federalized National Guard,
Speaker 2: send in troops, potentially invoke the Insurrection Act. So I
Speaker 2: certainly think it is very likely that we are building
Speaker 2: up to exactly that, especially as protests build in cities,
Speaker 2: in blue cities across the country.
Speaker 3: In particular, you pulled out this quote from a Wall
Speaker 3: Street Journal report yesterday. This is a seven that basically
Speaker 3: it shows this is I'll read it. In Coral Springs, Florida,
Speaker 3: at least eight agents and tactical gear shields and rifles
Speaker 3: surrounded a home with guns raised to arrest a father
Speaker 3: with no criminal history. And Irvine, California, ICE agents drove
Speaker 3: a phalanx of military vehicles in the Orange County suburb
Speaker 3: to arrest a person, though not for legal immigration. They
Speaker 3: were seeking a resident son who had allegedly posted flyers
Speaker 3: alerting neighbors to the presence of ICE agents. Crystal, that
Speaker 3: goes to the point that you were making earlier in
Speaker 3: the block about actually whether some of these excessive and
Speaker 3: arguably incompetent instances of trying to subdue you know, either
Speaker 3: non criminal aliens or American citizens, does that actually hurt
Speaker 3: ultimately the effort to take convicted criminals out of the country.
Speaker 3: For the Trump administration to take tens of thousands of
Speaker 3: convicted criminals out of the country. It's certainly a hell
Speaker 3: of an anecdote there from the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean posting flyers is clearly protected First Amendment activity.
Speaker 2: And so you're sending in a failanx of military vehicles
Speaker 2: to go after someone's son who posted some flyers. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is insane and I think you know the first
Speaker 2: instance was with regard to it was in Florida, again
Speaker 2: not a sanctuary state, but they felt that the numbers,
Speaker 2: Steven Miller felt that the numbers were too low when
Speaker 2: they were largely focusing on, you know, trying to find
Speaker 2: criminal undocumented immigrants. So they are taking much more aggressive tactics.
Speaker 2: As we've discussed before, part of the plan here is
Speaker 2: to be so insane, so cruel, so over the top
Speaker 2: that you scare people into self deporting themselves. That was
Speaker 2: the point of Seacott. There are also plans now that
Speaker 2: have been reported out to send thousands more immigrants, largely
Speaker 2: actually European immigrants to Guantanamo Bay. And so you know
Speaker 2: this is the goal, and it ties in also with
Speaker 2: the quote unquote big Beautiful Bill, which would provide vastly
Speaker 2: more resources to ICE, both in terms of manpower and
Speaker 2: in terms of partnering with private prison contractors to build
Speaker 2: out these massed attention facilities. So you know, these shows
Speaker 2: of force are very intentional, even though they are in
Speaker 2: certain instances unconstitutional and wildly, wildly unnecessary. Again, I do
Speaker 2: think part of that is when you have this show
Speaker 2: of huge numbers of agents coming in fully kitted out
Speaker 2: in military vehicles, you know, with their military gear, the
Speaker 2: public perception of some is so they must be going
Speaker 2: after a criminal, even when it's a dad with no
Speaker 2: criminal record, even when it's a sun for posting flyers.
Speaker 2: So this is, you know, this imagery and this approach,
Speaker 2: it's all very intentional. I also find it really disturbing
Speaker 2: the way that they the ICE agents have taken too
Speaker 2: oftentimes wearing plane clothes and fully masking and obscuring their
Speaker 2: their face. And I think that is, you know, deeply
Speaker 2: un American and deeply disturbing, and it's led to some instances.
Speaker 2: Already there was a there have been a couple instances
Speaker 2: I've seen where people have posed as ICE agents and
Speaker 2: in order to themselves commit crimes. The other thing that
Speaker 2: I think it's important to note is they've diverted resources
Speaker 2: in the FBI and other you know, law enforcement agencies
Speaker 2: within the federal government to this mass deportation effort which
Speaker 2: takes them off of other the ability to go after
Speaker 2: other criminal activity. So, you know, back to your original
Speaker 2: point about what you would like to see happen at
Speaker 2: how you'd like to see this focus on, you know,
Speaker 2: getting people who have committed crimes and who are on
Speaker 2: documented immigrants out of the country. That is not at all,
Speaker 2: you know, they do not at all have a focus
Speaker 2: on criminals, whether it's undocumented or otherwise.
Speaker 4: Instead, the focus really is.
Speaker 2: On creating the sense of terror and horror among the
Speaker 2: entire immigrant community so that people will themselves self deport
Speaker 2: so that their base will get the red meat that
Speaker 2: they want, and also, I think partly to try to
Speaker 2: you know, to trigger a reaction from the public that
Speaker 2: justifies even more of an authoritarian crackdown, which is exactly
Speaker 2: what we're seeing unfold right now.
Speaker 3: It's a very frightening state of affairs because I actually
Speaker 3: am sympathetic to a lot of these agents like our
Speaker 3: run of the mill and were likely to disgroun on
Speaker 3: this run of the mill ice agent who you know
Speaker 3: has a family, is trying to provide for them and
Speaker 3: is getting you know, videotaped and shot all over social
Speaker 3: media all of that. But it's part of the job
Speaker 3: at this point. And so it's one of the frustrating
Speaker 3: things I think about the Trump era in general is
Speaker 3: that the responses to a lot of I think legitimate
Speaker 3: problems and problems with you know, I would say like
Speaker 3: sympathetic at least from my perspective on the right problems,
Speaker 3: the reaction is it does go and sometimes, like you
Speaker 3: use the phrase anti American, I mean, I do think
Speaker 3: having masked law enforcement officers pulled people off the streets
Speaker 3: is and some of them have been citizens, by the way.
Speaker 3: We've seen videos of that, so you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: a fright state of affairs when you have people who
Speaker 3: are in the country illegally not even wanting to show
Speaker 3: up to the court hearings because they're deporting people at
Speaker 3: the court hearings, which again it's another sort of like
Speaker 3: get it if it's your job to deport people who
Speaker 3: are overseeing visas and are in the country illegally, But
Speaker 3: then people don't even participate in the process anymore because
Speaker 3: they're afraid of being deported. So it's setting up they
Speaker 3: as a response to a very legitimate crisis I think
Speaker 3: created by the buy An administration. It's it's setting us
Speaker 3: up for a lot of unrest. I feel like, actually, Crystal,
Speaker 3: this this really is just the beginning. But uh, we've
Speaker 3: earned a laugh. So I think we should watch the
Speaker 3: Waymos fleeing.
Speaker 2: Yes, wamos are exiting La here they are full service
Speaker 2: in downtown La amid ice protest. The Waymos are fleeing
Speaker 2: the scene after a new novel protest tactic of summoning wamos.
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize, to be honest with you, that
Speaker 2: WEIMO use was as widespread as it is in California.
Speaker 2: But to be honest, that's that's kind of interesting of itself.
Speaker 3: But the tactic is summoning the Waymos.
Speaker 4: To like them on fire.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of funny.
Speaker 4: It is kind of funny, kind of funny. What I said,
Speaker 4: don't do what I said.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this was on air air, but
Speaker 2: what I was saying is like, listen, if we have
Speaker 2: an organized war against the robots, I'm here for it, Like, yes,
Speaker 2: let's do that. But if we're just doing this as
Speaker 2: like I am one who I'm not particularly sympathetic to
Speaker 2: the usefulness of setting a weamo on fire and jumping
Speaker 2: on top.
Speaker 4: Of it with a Mexican flag. Look, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm not like it's not a moral issue, but I
Speaker 2: don't think that it is. You can see the way
Speaker 2: the Trump administration is like jumped on these images and
Speaker 2: absolutely loves them. So it's not the most helpful thing
Speaker 2: in the world, no.
Speaker 3: But the way most fleeing in unison, I think it's
Speaker 3: just helpful from a levity perspective because we could all
Speaker 3: use it. At this point, Christal, we've talked a lot
Speaker 3: actually about the expected military parade here in Washington, DC
Speaker 3: on Saturday, So let's get to the updates on that story.
Speaker 3: Massive presence here in Washington. There are lots of videos
Speaker 3: going viral. You can see it of tanks being loaded
Speaker 3: in brought on flatbeds to the city. Let's go ahead
Speaker 3: and listen to what Donald Trump had to say about
Speaker 3: this yesterday.
Speaker 8: We can roll b one celebrating big on Saturday, We're
Speaker 8: gonna have a lot of and if there's any protesters
Speaker 8: once to come out, they will be met with very
Speaker 8: big force. By the way, for those people that want
Speaker 8: to protest, They're going to be met with very big force.
Speaker 8: And I haven't even heard about a protest, but you know,
Speaker 8: this is people that hate our country, but they will
Speaker 8: be met with very heavy force.
Speaker 3: All right, So estimated price tag between twenty five and
Speaker 3: forty five million dollars. We can start dozing.
Speaker 2: Bring elon and the chainsaw back. Let's doje it.
Speaker 3: Here's B two. You can actually see why the price
Speaker 3: tage just as high as it is. This is tanks
Speaker 3: rolling into DC, the Washington Monument in the background. It's
Speaker 3: going to be down I believe Constitution Avenue on Saturday
Speaker 3: between like six and nine pm I think is roughly
Speaker 3: when it's scheduled to go for And this is yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean you're you're looking at tanks rolling down the
Speaker 3: streets now, Crystal. Before we tossed to whether the roads
Speaker 3: are equipped to handle this, that's a different question. Trump
Speaker 3: the legend here. Everyone remembers Trump tried to do this
Speaker 3: in his first term after going to France seeing a
Speaker 3: French military parade and wanting to bring it back to
Speaker 3: the United States. People like Gematis were uncomfortable with it.
Speaker 3: In Trump one point zero. But now Trump is you know,
Speaker 3: much more staff by loyalist Pete Hegseth is an obvious
Speaker 3: example of that. People who are ideologically aligned with him
Speaker 3: and aligned with sort of going along with his mission,
Speaker 3: or they're aligned with that sort of that loyalty to Trump.
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way, and have really no hesitation
Speaker 3: about going along with this. There is a scheduled day
Speaker 3: of defiance or a planned day of defiance, more protests
Speaker 3: on Saturday. The Washington Post is reporting this is B three.
Speaker 3: We've heard about this actually since Trump said he was
Speaker 3: going to do the military parade here in DC. We've
Speaker 3: heard that they're actually needing to put metal plates, and
Speaker 3: I've seen some of them. Actually, they're not fun if
Speaker 3: you're like biking around, but they've had to reinforce the
Speaker 3: road with metal plates to prevent damage. When you have
Speaker 3: one hundred vehicles in addition to, as the Post reports,
Speaker 3: thousands of soldiers, dozens of tanks, and more than one
Speaker 3: hundred other vehicles scheduled for that procession along Constitution Avenue.
Speaker 3: The gross weight so the ones that are supported by
Speaker 3: the government, that can be supported by the government vehicles
Speaker 3: would be eighty thousand pounds, but the Abrams tanks each
Speaker 3: way about seventy tons. There's twenty eight of those planning
Speaker 3: that the administration is planning to roll down in the
Speaker 3: parade again for the Army's two hundred and fiftieth birthday,
Speaker 3: which I will say actually is on Saturday. It actually
Speaker 3: does coincide with Donald Trump's birthday and Saturday in the summer,
Speaker 3: sort of a I don't know Chrystal, whether that's an
Speaker 3: unfortunate coincidence for Trump, it's clearly a fortunate coincidence, But
Speaker 3: I think he would be doing something for the Army's
Speaker 3: two hundred and fiftieth birthday, to be honest, anyway, he
Speaker 3: really wanted to have this military parade. Maybe what would
Speaker 3: the what would the QAnon people say about that? Maybe
Speaker 3: there's something we're supposed to be reading into this, something.
Speaker 2: I've lost I've lost the threat a bit with where
Speaker 2: the QAnon people are at this point. I think there's
Speaker 2: splinter factions. I know there are some who had turned
Speaker 2: on Michael Flynn, some who were still, you know, still
Speaker 2: in league with Michael Flynn.
Speaker 4: So I've lost touch a little bit with with where
Speaker 4: they are at this point.
Speaker 2: They're probably out there justifying Palentiner, taking all of our
Speaker 2: data and creating this giant panopticon as somehow fighting the
Speaker 2: deep state is probably what they're up to at this point.
Speaker 3: But trust I mean process.
Speaker 2: Listen, if this was a one off and you were
Speaker 2: just having military parade and there wasn't not guardsmen who'd
Speaker 2: been federalized over the objections of the California governor in
Speaker 2: the street, marines being deployed against American citizens, a US
Speaker 2: congresswoman who was just indicted on charges that could get
Speaker 2: hurt seventeen years in prison. By the way, if you
Speaker 2: didn't have Trump out there saying that we are going
Speaker 2: to meet protesters with overwhelming force, making no distinction between
Speaker 2: whether they were peaceful or whether they were violent, maybe
Speaker 2: then you'd go. And that's a waste of money. It's
Speaker 2: going to mess up the DC streets, which really don't
Speaker 2: need that. You know, DC budget really doesn't need the
Speaker 2: extra tens of millions of dollars is going to take
Speaker 2: to repair the damage, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But is it the biggest deal in the world.
Speaker 2: No. When you put all of those pieces together, it
Speaker 2: really does feel like you are building to a crescendo
Speaker 2: of authoritarian power grab sorry, fascist imagery that is quite
Speaker 2: intentional and quite frightening and quite overwhelming. And that's not
Speaker 2: even to mention the things that we talked about before,
Speaker 2: the attacks on public universities, the crushing of descent and
Speaker 2: free speech. The counter terrors are basically framing anyone who
Speaker 2: is a protester of any of these administration's policies as
Speaker 2: providing material support for terrorists. The afore mentioned Talenteer database
Speaker 2: that seeks to surveil and compile all of the data
Speaker 2: on everyone who's in the country, you at, citizen and
Speaker 2: not so that that crushing of descent can be wielded
Speaker 2: much more effectively. When you put all of these pieces together,
Speaker 2: troubling does not begin to describe it. And so I
Speaker 2: think this is a very fraught, combustible moment with potentially
Speaker 2: dire and far reaching consequences for the direction that this
Speaker 2: country goes in. And especially, you know, when you do
Speaker 2: have large scale protests that have been pre planned, which
Speaker 2: you know, people should have the right to protest their government.
Speaker 2: That's kind of, you know, a core American value. When
Speaker 2: you have those protests planned, when you already have Trump
Speaker 2: and Stephen Miller and others providing the rhetorical justification to
Speaker 2: launch this mass crackdown. I think everyone, I don't care
Speaker 2: where you are on the political spectrum, I think everyone
Speaker 2: should be deeply concerned for what that means for your rights,
Speaker 2: for the rights of you know, your friend's family, your neighbors,
Speaker 2: for your ability to dissent from anything this government or
Speaker 2: a future regime does as well. I think we're on
Speaker 2: very very treacherous ground and that it will be difficult
Speaker 2: to walk back from some of the things that are
Speaker 2: being done right now.
Speaker 4: In this time.
Speaker 3: Let's put before on the screen. This is a local
Speaker 3: news breakdown of the expected cost here. So Trump has
Speaker 3: said on Meet the Press that the cost is peanuts
Speaker 3: compared to the value of doing it, but again that
Speaker 3: number is potentially as high as forty five million dollars,
Speaker 3: and they broke down even like six teen million of
Speaker 3: that could come from just repairing the roads afterwards. So
Speaker 3: you know, they're also advertising really heavily in the area
Speaker 3: within like five hours of DC, roughly five hours of DC,
Speaker 3: trying to get people to come to it. I think
Speaker 3: that's another open question about this. What we can look
Speaker 3: at here on B five is counter protests that are
Speaker 3: planned to spread throughout the country, and one of the
Speaker 3: things Crystal. Building on what you were just talking about,
Speaker 3: I wanted to mention is these are being rallied, These
Speaker 3: are being organized under the banner of No Kings, and
Speaker 3: so if you look at the map here there are
Speaker 3: planned counter protests all over the country, but no Kings.
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting branding. And I think it's
Speaker 3: really interesting branding for a counter protest movement Jax opposed
Speaker 3: with the resistance movement of twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty because No Kings is implicitly and inherently patriotic,
Speaker 3: and I think appeals to the patriotism of the average
Speaker 3: American in a way that resistance never did. So I'm
Speaker 3: curious what you make of that, Crystal, because I think, uh,
Speaker 3: that's actually a very for the left. Positive development.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is a smart framing and I
Speaker 2: think app and that the cat has just joined.
Speaker 4: As you see behind.
Speaker 2: Kings except for Salem, except for Salem, and Salem as
Speaker 2: are that's definitely the king in this household.
Speaker 4: But No, I think it is. I think it is
Speaker 4: intelligent branding.
Speaker 2: And this is why you know, I know Soger and
Speaker 2: it seems like you feel like, oh, the crackdown in LA,
Speaker 2: like this is going to play into Trump's hands. And
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like really leery at this point of
Speaker 2: offering political predictions because I think things have been so
Speaker 2: difficult to predict ultimately.
Speaker 4: But I don't. I think this is too much, too fast.
Speaker 2: Where the fears of Trump and the worst, you know,
Speaker 2: worst concerns, the gravest concerns about how this man would
Speaker 2: behave if you gave him the power of the presidency
Speaker 2: again are just undeniably present. You know, if you look
Speaker 2: at the polling, people are not crazy about the protesters.
Speaker 2: People are never crazy about protesters. Although actually, with the
Speaker 2: exception of the BLM protesters, they were overwhelmingly popular. But
Speaker 2: even if you look back at like the Civil Rights movement,
Speaker 2: you know, those protesters were also not popular. If you
Speaker 2: look at Trump's response to it, using marines against protesters,
Speaker 2: wildly unpopular. His ratings on immigration still okay, they're his
Speaker 2: best ratings, but he's barely above water if he is
Speaker 2: at all. That's in like the best polls. Some of
Speaker 2: the polls find his deportation like ratings even on things
Speaker 2: like deportations deeply underwater.
Speaker 4: Americans they don't want a king.
Speaker 2: I do think there is a reaction against this, very
Speaker 2: clear like power grab, and there are so much in
Speaker 2: the floods of the zone strategy that is hitting people
Speaker 2: in the face right now that I would not be
Speaker 2: so confident if I was the Republicans that this politically
Speaker 2: is to their benefit. Now, maybe their plan is for
Speaker 2: it not really to matter that much what the American
Speaker 2: people think about it. Maybe their plan is to continue
Speaker 2: with their power grab such that dissent is crushed, that
Speaker 2: there is limited ability to voice your concerns electorally. I'm
Speaker 2: not talking like, oh, they're going to cancel elections or whatever,
Speaker 2: but you can see scenarios where the pretext of crushing
Speaker 2: protests is used to take control of some of the
Speaker 2: voting apparatus.
Speaker 4: You could certainly.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's very easy to imagine situations where they
Speaker 2: just outright reject whatever the election results are that are
Speaker 2: unfavorable to them. So maybe they don't particularly care about
Speaker 2: the politics of it, but to the extent they do,
Speaker 2: I think this is much more treacherous than they imagine,
Speaker 2: especially when you know the reality of what who is
Speaker 2: being deported in the way that it's being handled. Is
Speaker 2: staring people in the face. You know, they're having to
Speaker 2: grapple with the pregnant mom who's married to an American citizen,
Speaker 2: or the you know, the dad with no criminal record
Speaker 2: who has all the agents show up at his house,
Speaker 2: or the son who's just like posting flyers and is
Speaker 2: being met with this insane use of force. Because the
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is emily that there is no
Speaker 2: ability to do a mass deportation strategy that doesn't involve
Speaker 2: a massive police state that is going to impact literally everyone,
Speaker 2: and I think we've already seen that with the crushing
Speaker 2: of the you know, the pro Palestine dissent, because by definition,
Speaker 2: you have to sore down, okay, who is citizen and
Speaker 2: who is non citizen. That means that you were going
Speaker 2: to have to you know, inquire and have your surhil
Speaker 2: and state hit citizens as well.
Speaker 4: The money that's in the.
Speaker 2: Budget for the big beautiful bill for ice for detention centers,
Speaker 2: there's no way to just keep that confined to whatever
Speaker 2: population it is. I think it's mostly like, you know,
Speaker 2: if you look at the pulling people very comfortable as
Speaker 2: they should be with deporting like criminal and documented immigrants.
Speaker 2: You go beyond that the numbers actually really fall off
Speaker 2: a cliff. And when you ask specifically about people have
Speaker 2: no criminal record who have been here for a long time,
Speaker 2: I'm talking it's like seventy five twenty five that people
Speaker 2: feel like, why are you.
Speaker 4: Messing with these people?
Speaker 2: They are just like living their lives and not causing
Speaker 2: people any kind of harm. So again, maybe they don't
Speaker 2: care about the politics, which is what is a terrifying
Speaker 2: I think in real possibility. But to the extent they do,
Speaker 2: I don't think they are as on nearly as firm
Speaker 2: a ground as they feel they are right now.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I think they care about the politics.
Speaker 3: I think they're also some of them are very online.
Speaker 3: But I actually I also still think on the narrow
Speaker 3: question of the riots, I do think it's I do
Speaker 3: more soccer on that life, like it's it's helpful to
Speaker 3: Trump because people like Gavin Newsom still haven't addressed the
Speaker 3: problem that voters care more about in a satisfactory way.
Speaker 3: But that aside, the no kingsing is really interesting to
Speaker 3: me because I feel like that's sort of this man
Speaker 3: is having a forty five million dollar, potentially forty five
Speaker 3: million dollar military parade, happens to fall on his birthday,
Speaker 3: and he is like in some cases encouraging snowflakery from
Speaker 3: like law enforcement that has to cover their faces and
Speaker 3: anti americanly. I think there's something that Dems can tap
Speaker 3: into that is almost emasculating, but not in the way
Speaker 3: that the Resistance thought that they had him by claiming
Speaker 3: there was a pe tape and you know, having those
Speaker 3: disgusting blow up balloons of him everywhere he went where
Speaker 3: it was like naked, it was just weird, didn't work,
Speaker 3: and Crystal, you know this because you live outside of DC,
Speaker 3: like there was something. There is something very real for
Speaker 3: a lot of people who maybe don't love Trump but
Speaker 3: continue to vote for him and continue to sympathize with
Speaker 3: him or agree with him over Democrats on some of
Speaker 3: these culture war questions because they do love America. The
Speaker 3: people can disagree with this, but they feel like Trump
Speaker 3: loves America. And again, you could disagree with that. You
Speaker 3: can hate that everything's wrong, but that's something that people
Speaker 3: like about Trump is that he seems to like the country.
Speaker 3: And I do think that's a mistake that Democrats made
Speaker 3: in the resistance era was not meeting so many people
Speaker 3: where they are on that question, and it allowed them
Speaker 3: to look unpatriotic and allowed the American people to think
Speaker 3: that they're unpatriotic because they weren't kind of leading with
Speaker 3: that question in particular. And I think that's why the
Speaker 3: No King's branding is actually very very smart for the left.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I mean, I think that it is an
Speaker 2: intelligent branding, and especially I mean, this is the way
Speaker 2: he behaves in everything, you know, even with the tariffs,
Speaker 2: wanting people to come and like, yeah, been the knee,
Speaker 2: you know, he wants to make it so that Fema
Speaker 2: is ad is dispatched at his bequest, you know. Is
Speaker 2: this is the way that he operates in every respect,
Speaker 2: and so when you put the label on it, all
Speaker 2: these pieces fit together, including the use of the American
Speaker 2: US military as his own private force. Secretary of the
Speaker 2: Army actually called it Trump's army or his army this
Speaker 2: morning on Fox News. So they really are pushing that
Speaker 2: and trying to normalize that sense that this is a
Speaker 2: force that should be wielded at the whims of the president,
Speaker 2: which is not the way that obviously that is fundamentally
Speaker 2: anti American, un American, and that is consistent with the
Speaker 2: way that a king would behave, not a duly elected
Speaker 2: president of the United States. So yeah, I agree with
Speaker 2: you that I think it's it's intelligent branding. We'll see
Speaker 2: how widespread the protests are, We'll see what the crackdown
Speaker 2: is going to be. And the last thing I'll say
Speaker 2: on this is I also think that there is just
Speaker 2: something deeply disturbing about watching all of these tanks being
Speaker 2: rolled into DC that hits on a visceral level as well.
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about the optics of the protests
Speaker 2: and what people take from that, et cetera. And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not one that says like, oh, that doesn't matter
Speaker 2: and we can't talk about or whatever. But I think
Speaker 2: equally damning are the optics of tanks rolling into the
Speaker 2: nation's capital for a celebration of the president's birthday. That's
Speaker 2: just with many people, that is just not going to
Speaker 2: sit right.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Teriffs, brothers, tiny bit of news on
Speaker 3: this front, actually massive bit of news in this front.
Speaker 3: Trump has posted while we were recording Crystal that the
Speaker 3: deal with China is done, subject to final approval with
Speaker 3: President Sheet and me full magnets and any necessary rare
Speaker 3: earth will be supplied upfront by China. Likewise, we will
Speaker 3: provide to China what was agreed to, including Chinese students
Speaker 3: using our colleges and universities, which has always been good
Speaker 3: with me, he says. And we're getting a total of
Speaker 3: fifty five percent tariff. China is getting ten percent, And
Speaker 3: of course he ends his post in my favorite sign off,
Speaker 3: thank you for your attention to this matter. So, Chris, so,
Speaker 3: thank you for your attention to this matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they apparently really I guess didn't think through
Speaker 2: the whole rare Earth situation. Kind of freaked out about that.
Speaker 2: So that is interesting. I'm sure Soccer and I'll dig
Speaker 2: into that more tomorrow. I feel like we talked too
Speaker 2: long about la and Trump, So maybe should we should
Speaker 2: we skip over Tulsi and her weird nuclear warning video
Speaker 2: and jump straight ahead to John Stewart.
Speaker 3: What do you think people can look up the weird
Speaker 3: Tulsi video. They should look up the weird Tulsi video.
Speaker 3: There would have there's maybe we'll talk about it on Friday,
Speaker 3: but there's there's some interesting stuff to dig into.
Speaker 4: It is a good Friday topic. Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 4: Let's do it for Friday.
Speaker 2: I mean, the response to it is like probably even
Speaker 2: more unhinged video. But to me, top line take, this
Speaker 2: is like what happens when you have someone who is
Speaker 2: an influencer put in a position of power. They never
Speaker 2: really let go of their and my quick take hold
Speaker 2: on the influencer world.
Speaker 3: My quick take is that Tulsi's freaked out by all
Speaker 3: of the deep sit people that she works with now
Speaker 3: and we should mention before we let the guoks. We
Speaker 3: teast it up at the top crysal that there have
Speaker 3: been significant escalations in the Russia Ukraine conflict that are
Speaker 3: getting buried in the domestic news cycle. The BBC headline
Speaker 3: this morning is record number of drone attacks signals dangerous,
Speaker 3: dangerous shift in the war, large gale, Russian droone attacks
Speaker 3: on Ukrainian cities are on the rise. There was a
Speaker 3: bombardment Monday night, and so this is not We've covered
Speaker 3: this many times in the last couple of weeks, but
Speaker 3: this is not de escalating with the presidency that promised
Speaker 3: to end it in twenty four hours, even if that
Speaker 3: was sarcastic or hyperbolic. We are into June here, so
Speaker 3: about six months in so nothing seems to sadly, there
Speaker 3: does not seem to be a light at the end
Speaker 3: of the tunnel. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, a very very troubling situation and series of
Speaker 2: escalatory actions that we've been watching unfold there, you know,
Speaker 2: with the with the Russians, but with the Ukrainian drone
Speaker 2: swarm attack inside of Russia, and now Russia responding with
Speaker 2: an aggressive attack directly on Kievs.
Speaker 3: And Telsa Gabbert's video. The connective to she was that
Speaker 3: she was talking warning about the imminent
Speaker 4: Threat of the consequences of nuclear war exactly