1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal here. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: and we are so excited about what that means for 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: the future of this show. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: This is the only place where you can find honest 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: not exist anywhere else. 8 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: So if that is something that's important to you, please 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: go to Breakingpoints dot com. 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Yeah, welcome to Breaking Points everyone, 19 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: where we sit on booster steed so that we can 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 3: be at the big kids table. 21 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Well, longtime viewers know I have an exceptionally long tourso 22 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: so everyone has to, you know, literally up their game 23 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: in order to equalize with me. So it's really my fault, 24 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: not so yeah. 25 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: It's all about Crystal stores. 26 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 4: Though, well, Christ to start the show this morning. 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we do the big show though, because the 28 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: protests are continuing, not just in Los Angeles now, they're 29 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: spreading around the entire country. New York is seeing some protesting, 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: Atlanta is seeing some protesting. And we have some video 31 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: clips both from Los Angeles and around the country to 32 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 3: start the show off with today, and we'll break down 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: the updates the latter's updates in the clashes between those cities, 34 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: particularly again between Los Angeles, California and the Trump administration. 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 3: Because Crystal, this new cycle is not slowing down. 36 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, not at all, And I'm interested to get your thoughts. 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: Be your first chance on the show this week to 38 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: weigh in. Trump also gave rather disturbing, in my opinion, 39 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: a speech in front of troops at Fork Bragg yesterday. 40 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: And it's all kind of part and parcel building up 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: to this big military parade this weekend that happens to 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: be on President Trump's birthday. We've got tanks rolling into DC. 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: We've got some footage of that, and widespread protests planned 44 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: for that day as well. Trump saying that those protests 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: are going to be met with force, really not making 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: a distinction between whether they are violent or peaceful protesters. 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: So extremely ominous developments that we can report on this morning. 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: We've also got speaking of ominous, strange video that was 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: put out by TOOLSI I'm curious your take Emily on 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: what is going on there behind the scenes. But she's 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: warning rightfully so about the dire consequences of nuclear war, 52 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: and of course comes at a time of dramatic escalation 53 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: between Ukraine and Russia, so that will be an interesting 54 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: one to get to. 55 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what's happening right now in Ukraine is 56 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: also just sort of being buried. I'm not saying wrongly, 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: But in the domestic news cycle, we have a really 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: crowded news cycle. So we have updates actually on some 59 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: more deadly attacks that we will cover, especially in that 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: block and Crystal Stephen A. Smith on the Daily Show. 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: We have a clip that everyone is definitely going to 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: enjoy enjoy, But if you hear Steven A. Smith on 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: the Daily Show, then you already know that you're joined 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: the clip in all likelihood. And some more updates from 65 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: Zora Mamdanie's race in New York City. 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like he has all the momentum will it 67 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: be enough? Big question there, but some interesting new poll numbers. 68 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: We've also got updates out of Israel. We've got some 69 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: comments from Greta Tundberg and the wake of her being 70 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: what President Trump calls kidnapped, which I think is accurate 71 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: by Israel and detained there for a while. Some of 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: the other activists are still being held in Israel, but 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: she's speaking out. We also have some new video of 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: the AID horror scene and new reporting about another AID slaughter. Meanwhile, 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: my Kakabee, who is our ambassador to Israel, saying, hey, 76 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: we're not too big on this whole two state solution thing, 77 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: really significant change in official US government policy, and we're 78 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: going to be joined this morning by tarn Steinbrckner Kaufman. 79 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: She is an AI expert coming at it from the 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: sort of liberal perspective, and so wanted to get her 81 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: take on a bunch of developments. In particular, Meta is 82 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: ponying up a massive amount of cash to try to 83 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: win the race for AGI, or artificial general intelligence. These 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: are extraordinary developments that could upend literally all of our lives. 85 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: So interested to see what Taren has to say about 86 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: all of that. 87 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: Well, Crystal We should also mention that BP free not 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: free gasoline, but that free monthly trial is still going on. 89 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: If you go over to breakingpoints dot com, you can 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: try out the premium experience of Breaking Points as a 91 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: premium subscriber free for one month. That means you get 92 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: the second half of the Friday shows and all kinds 93 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: of other good stuff. 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One last news update before we jump in. 100 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: We don't have this bus as an element in the show, 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: but apparently Elon I don't know, sometime late last night 102 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: tweet it out that he regards some of the things 103 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: that said about President Trump, so real four going on there. 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what times on us in, but it 105 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: came at three or four in the morning, and he 106 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: said exactly what Crystal just mentioned. I regret some of 107 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: my posts about President Trump last week. So I guess 108 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: we'll stay tuned. 109 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: For more, Yes, more intrigued there, and I'm sure we 110 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: will continue to cover it all right, let's go ahead 111 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 2: and get to these ice protests anti ice protests that 112 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: really at this point are spreading across the country. And 113 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: we've got some video we can put up on the 114 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: screen that shows all the different places where these protests are. 115 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: Now going on. 116 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: You know, to be fair, there had been protests prior 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: to this moment, but they've certainly exploded in size and 118 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: scope since you know, things kicked off in LA, and 119 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: since President Trump decided to send in the National Guard 120 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: and now also deploy the Marines. Word is that the 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: Marines are supposed to actually arrive in LA today. This 122 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: is the some of the images from LA from yesterday. 123 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: We've got New York City, you saw Chicago earlier. I 124 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: know Atlanta had protests as well. I think there are 125 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: just protest plan for even more cities put today and 126 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: going into the weekend, including places like Minnesota. You can 127 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: see Boston here as well. My understanding, Emily, I don't 128 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: know if you saw anything different this morning, but that 129 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: LA was relatively quiet last night. The mayor imposed a 130 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 2: curfew in the one square mile area of the downtown 131 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: where the protests had been located, centered around that federal 132 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: government building. So she imposed a curfew. I think anyone 133 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: who tried to defy it basically got arrested, and you know, 134 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: I think that's mostly what went down in LA yesterday. 135 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Here you can see protesters i think, blocking a thoroughfare 136 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles from yesterday, and we also can show 137 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: you fairly disturbing. You know, you're starting to get some 138 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: of the videos from the police response here. And remember 139 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: this is LAPD, this is not the National Guard, and 140 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: they have certainly had an overwhelming show of force. I 141 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: heard Soccer and Ryan talking yesterday about how difficult it 142 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: is to tell actually between the ordinary police and National 143 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: guardsmen or you know, marines, because the local police departments 144 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: are so kitted out with all of this military gear. 145 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: This really happened in the wake after the War on 146 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: Terror and the war in Iraq. All of that military 147 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: equipment started to come home and you know, basically every 148 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: major police department throughout the country now has looks like 149 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: they're going in ready for battle. So in any case, 150 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: to go ahead and show you this video that is 151 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: you know, really going viral, showing a woman who reportedly 152 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: just like lives in the area of where this protests 153 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: were and was trying to get home and approaches a 154 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: line of the LAPD cops who are there on the 155 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: scene doing crowd control, and they pretty much shoot her 156 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: with some sort of non lethal projectile, probably rub bullet, 157 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: point blank. 158 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take a look at a little 159 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: bit of that. 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 5: They're telling her a move, but that's a public sidewalk. 161 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 5: They're telling her to move. Watch if they shoot her. Whoo, 162 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 5: holy fuck, they're gonna shoot. 163 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: We're bling stop, she's anger. Come on, we gotta get 164 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: a pup free. 165 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: So shoot her point blank and she says, I'm just 166 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: trying to get home. We've seen a few incidences that 167 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: are like that. We also showed you previously on the 168 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: show that reporter from Australia who is also hit with 169 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: a rubber bullet. And yeah, they're not going to kill you. 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: They're les lethal I think they call them emily, but 171 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: they can do some damage. I've been seeing the injuries 172 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: come out in any case. Before we get into the 173 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: latest from Gavin Newsom and Trump's speech and all of that, 174 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: just wanted to give you a chance to give kind 175 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: of top line thoughts about what you make of this 176 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: situation and how this is all unfolding. 177 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, I think I tend 178 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: to think people have, from a political perspective, a hierarchy 179 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: of priorities, and I think that a lot about Trump. 180 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: We're like analyzing Trump's decisions to do various different things, 181 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: whether it's you know, deporting people for anti Israel op eds, 182 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: students for anti Israel op eds, are attempting to deport 183 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: them for anti Israel op eds, or you know, going 184 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: turning the screws to Harvard in novel ways. I tend 185 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: to think that sometimes it's the people don't like the 186 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: way that Trump approaches the situation, but they still and 187 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: this is a mistake. I think that some like mainstream 188 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: Democrats make the average American still, though doesn't like what 189 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: the actual status quo policy is less. So it's not 190 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: that like people really really are, you know, on board 191 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: with Donald Trump militarizing responses to protests and they just 192 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: love it and all of that. I mean, I think 193 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: a lot of average Americans look at that and really 194 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: don't like to see the militarization of like local law enforcement. 195 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: Where to the point that you were saying, Sager and 196 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: Ryan were discussing, it looks like they're like in Fallujah 197 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: when they're policing like regular demonstrations, and you know, far 198 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: bit for me to defend the LAPD. Which I'm not 199 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: surprised at all by that video that we just showed, 200 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: which I think was sourced from Reddit of a woman 201 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: just getting popped by rubber bullet, which as she's trying 202 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: to get home, doesn't seem to be a threat to anybody, 203 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: isn't with a crowd. So yeah, I don't think anybody 204 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: likes to see those scenes. I honestly personally think that 205 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: when we have tens of thousands, I mean I pulled 206 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: up this Homeland Security report from last year of the 207 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: non detained people on the national Docket or ICE at 208 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: the time. So this was July twenty first, twenty twenty four, 209 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: sixty two thousand people for assault that were non detained, 210 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 3: convicted criminals convicted of assault roaming the country. Same thing 211 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 3: with dangerous drugs is how they classify it, sex crimes 212 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: homicide thirteen thousand people. So I think for a lot 213 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: of Americans, they are probably more similar to me aligned 214 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: on that question of like, there are tens of thousands 215 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: of people who are not detained, who are convicted criminals 216 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: who came into the country, even if they're dropping the 217 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: bucket for you know, I agree with that. I think, 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: actually like the Cato Institute statistics are probably correct, the 219 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: pro immigration statistics are probably correct that the average migrant 220 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: commits crimes at a lesser rate than the average world. 221 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: I don't take any issue with those statistics, but I 222 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: think there are a lot of dangers. I see sanctuary 223 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: city policies, sanctuary state policies, California basically a sanctuary state. 224 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: I see those as subsidies the cartels, which allow people 225 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: to go into the country and not be detained, not 226 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: be well I should say, I shouldn't say attained, but 227 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: not be deported, And that allowed a lot of trafficking 228 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: of people across the border, and cartel's made money off 229 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 3: of just about every single one of them. So I 230 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: don't like how Trump is approaching it. I also really 231 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: don't like I think I like less how California has 232 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: approached it over the course of the last decade. But 233 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: we likely disagree on that. 234 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: Crystal, Well, well, let's be clear you are at odds 235 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: with Steven Miller on that. Yes, because yes, what he 236 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: explicitly said and the and has implemented through ICE. He 237 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: explicitly said to the leaders of ICE, why are you 238 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: going after criminals? Go to the home depot, go to 239 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: the seven elevens. So the priority is not on dealing with, 240 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: you know, criminals, because the problem is that, yes, of 241 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: course there is some number of undocumented inmmigrants who have 242 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: committed crimes, been convicted of crimes, been accused of crimes, 243 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: et cetera. It is not the millions of people, and 244 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: it would not provide the mass show of force that 245 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: Stephen Miller wants. So you will find very few people, 246 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: including myself in this country who say, yes, we want 247 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: to keep the convicted criminal undocumented immigrants. The approach that 248 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: they're taking will make it more difficult to remove the 249 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: actual dangerous individuals that you're speaking about, and instead they 250 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: are targeting the you know, kids, the elementary school graduation, 251 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: the day laborer who's out just trying to get a 252 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: job and has no criminal record whatsoever. That's who they're 253 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: actually going after, and that is what sparked these protests 254 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: in la in particular, which have now really spread across 255 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: the country. 256 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 4: You know, the big picture for me here. 257 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: Is we now have a stat of truly authoritarian, terrifying 258 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: actions being taken here by the Trump administration. I mean, 259 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: to bring in the National Guard over the objections of 260 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: local law enforcement to handle some pretty run of the 261 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: mill protests, the type of thing that you see after 262 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: like you know, a football team wins the Super Bowl, 263 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: or a basketball team WINBA Finals or whatever like that's 264 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: where these things started. To call in the National Guard 265 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: over the objections of the governor insane, unprecedented, truly in 266 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: terms of these dynamics. To bring in the Marines is 267 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: utterly deranged. Then you have this speech that we're going 268 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: to show you some clips from here in a moment 269 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: in front of active duty troops getting them to cheer for, 270 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: you know, calling GAVINUS a news scum and going after 271 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: the fake news meeting. I mean, it's just a hyper 272 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: partisan speech that you're getting active duty soldiers behind you 273 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: that you handpicked, by the way to make sure that 274 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: they had the right politics to be behind you to 275 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: cheer for. Then you add to that this military parade 276 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: planned for his birthday for this weekend, where he says 277 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: any protester, not just smiling person, any protesters are going 278 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: to be met with force and you know, the pattern 279 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: is pretty clear here. And then you mentioned some of 280 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: the other actions that have been taken, whether it's the 281 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: you know, arresting students for writing an op ed or 282 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: you know, the attacks on me, the tax on universities, 283 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: all of this amounts to an extraordinarily dangerous authoritarian power grab. 284 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: There is nothing and I'll play the Gavin Newsom sad 285 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: in a moment where he makes this. I believe he 286 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: makes this point in the SOD as well. There is 287 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: nothing that limits this federalizing of the National Guard to 288 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: just LA or to just California, or to just sanctuary 289 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: cities or sanctuary states or wherever it is that you 290 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: know you have a policy issue with them. There is 291 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: no limiting principle on it. And so it certainly seems 292 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: like part of the goal here is to normalize the 293 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: idea that it requires the US military in order to 294 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: just enforce the law. I mean, we showed you the 295 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: clip of the LAPD. They're not coming in all like 296 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: hugs and cuddles. They have thousands of cops. You know, 297 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: the Republicans are supposed to be the ones who are 298 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: all about law enforcement, like they are the ones who 299 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: are actually supposed to be trained to deal with people 300 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: who are lawbreakers, and so the notion that you have 301 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: to bring in marines who are trained for combat to 302 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: be deployed against American citizens is something is I think 303 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: a red line that every it's truly un American and 304 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: is a red line in my opinion that absolutely no 305 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: one should accept. 306 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: This could get worse because to the point that you're making, 307 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: there's protests now popping up all over the place. There 308 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: is no is not necessarily a element on the Trumpet 309 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: administration's interest in expanding around the country. If anything, I mean, 310 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: I think the Trump administration is eager to have that, 311 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 3: and it's because I think the reason, like the political 312 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: explanation for it, and I don't think we disagree on 313 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: the politics from the Trump administration's perspective, but like they 314 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: want to look like they're leaning into this. They want 315 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: to look like the you know, Gavin Newsom. They hope 316 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom gets as much airtime as he can. And 317 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: we actually have a clip of Gavin Newsom giving a 318 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: primetime television address last night and have gotten a decent 319 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: It's gotten a decent bit of play just over the 320 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: last twelve hours or so so let's actually go ahead 321 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: and roll at e x three to get a taste 322 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: of how Gavin Newsom addressed people last night. 323 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 6: This is about all of us. This is about you. 324 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 6: California maybe first, but it clearly will not end here. 325 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 6: Other states are next. Democracy is next. Democracy is under 326 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 6: assault before our eyes. This moment we have feared has. 327 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: Arrived, and crystal before we get to the Fort braggspeach, 328 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: which we also, as you mentioned, have clips from the 329 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: I just want to say my frustration with that is 330 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: the sanctuary state policies are why it's hard to get 331 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: the tens of thousands of convicted criminals, not even people 332 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: with chargers, but just convicted criminals like that. That's why 333 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: it's actually hard for law enforcement to do it, is 334 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: that they're able to be in California and in these 335 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 3: places like it does genuinely make it really hard. And 336 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 3: so I feel like what would be really de escalatory 337 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: is for Gavin Newsom to do what like Muriel Bowser 338 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: has done here in DC and start walking some of 339 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: those policy policies back. But now it's just everyone's kind 340 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: of has dug in because a Trump administration responded in 341 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 3: a way that Gavin Newsom politically is responding to in 342 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: this way and not entirely without reason. They're calling it 343 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 3: for his arrest, so you can see why Kavin Newsom 344 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: would react as he did. But we're absolutely no closer 345 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: to solving the legitimate problem. And many such cases, I guess, 346 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: such as the nature of American politics in twenty twenty five. 347 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: Well, I'm pretty sure Texas is not a sanctuary state, 348 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, And they're using the same 349 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: type of tactics there, the same type of protests are 350 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: being sparked, and there is a a couple of white 351 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 2: cities are I think, like Houston is. But yeah, and 352 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: there are quite a large number relatively equivalent population, you know, 353 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: per capital number of undocumented immigrants in Texas as there 354 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: are in California. So, you know, fine, to debate sanctuary 355 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: city and sanctuary state policies, I disagree. I think it's 356 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: important and actually is good for elimination of crime and 357 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: violence to make it so that immigrants feel like they 358 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: can go to the authorities without fearing like they're going to, 359 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: you know, break up their family and be deported out 360 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: of the country. 361 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: Fair to criticize, you know. 362 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: To have a debate about that legitimate policy argument, not 363 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: legitimate to send in marines against American citizens who are 364 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: protesting at a time when you know, the governor, when 365 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: their protests are relatively limited, not out of control in 366 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: some way that the LAPD can't handle, and again zooming 367 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: out as part of a broader authoritarian crackdown and power 368 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: grab against dissent overall in this country. And you know, 369 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: I think part of the reason why they're now using 370 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: National Guards so you know, these active duty soldiers with 371 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: semi automatic weapons, they're using them in ice raids now 372 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: in California, I think, is to present an image of criminality, 373 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: because when you see this force coming in, you assume 374 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: this must be for some you know, super bad guy, 375 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: super villain to create that impression, even though who you're 376 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: really going after is like, you know, again like a 377 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: day labor at home depot or you know, a mom 378 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 2: with an American citizen kid, and you know, those types 379 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: of more sympathetic cases. So by militarizing the response and 380 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 2: having that look of the masked ICE agents surrounded by 381 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: the kitted up National guardsmen, you can create a perception 382 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: that these must be hard and criminals they're going after 383 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: when that is, we know not the case. I mean, 384 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: even the guys they sent to Seacoat to rot in 385 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: a slave labor camp for life, the vast majority of 386 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: them were not criminals in any respect, had no arrest 387 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: record whatsoever. And you have to assume the reason that 388 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: they did that is because they just have They just 389 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: there just aren't the number of undocumented criminals that they 390 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: want to project to the nation. So, you know, I 391 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: think Newsome, who I am no fan of in general, 392 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: has actually done an excellent job and a very you know, 393 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: most Democrats are so slow on their feet in terms 394 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: of responding and engaging, and they're only going on the 395 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: mainstream mountlets and only doing these prepackaged things. He gave 396 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: this trimetime address which I thought was relatively effective, but 397 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: he's also been out there mixed it up on Twitter. 398 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: He's done a bunch of different podcasts. He's been very 399 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: aggressive about combating narratives in real time in a way 400 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: that listen, I think his star had really fallen. I 401 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: think he'd really misread the moment early in Trump two 402 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: point zero, and there's just no doubt that this is 403 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: hugely elevating for him. With the Democratic base, and you know, 404 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: definitely makes him more of a contender. Not that that's 405 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: the most important thing right now whatsoever. But we've mentioned 406 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: now a couple of times Trump went to Fort Bragg 407 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: and gave this speech in front of the you know, 408 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 2: the active duty soldiers that are there, hyper partisan, hyper political, 409 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: typical like Trump rally speech, which you know, I know 410 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: nobody cares about, like the way things used to be 411 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: or the norms. But this is something that would have 412 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: been completely completely unthin thinkable, out of bounds whatsoever, Like 413 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: the idea of soldiers even like overtly expressing partisan political 414 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: beliefs was something that was completely out of bounds until 415 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: you know, really the Trump moment. So let's go ahead 416 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: and take a look at some of how that went down. 417 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 7: And before going further, I want to say a few 418 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 7: words about the situation in Los Angeles, California. Have you 419 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 7: heard of the place where I've deployed thousands of National 420 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 7: Guard troops and hundreds of Marines to protect federal law 421 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 7: enforcement from the attacks of a vicious and violent mob. 422 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 7: And some of the radical left they say, oh, that's 423 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 7: not nice. Well, if we didn't do it, it wouldn't 424 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 7: be a Los Ange it'd be burning today, just like 425 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 7: the houses were burning a number of months ago. Generations 426 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 7: of army heroes did not shed their blood on distant 427 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 7: shores only to watch our country be destroyed by invasion 428 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 7: and third world lawlessness here at home, like is happening 429 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 7: in California. Commander in Chief, I will. 430 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: Not let that happen. 431 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 7: It's never going to happen in Los Angeles. The governor 432 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 7: of California and the mayor of Los Angeles, they're incompetent, 433 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 7: and they paid troublemakers, agitators and insurrectionists. They're engaged in 434 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 7: this willful attempt to nullify federal law and aid the 435 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 7: occupation of the city by criminal invaders. 436 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: That's what it is. 437 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 7: Very simply, we will liberate Los Angeles and make it free, 438 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 7: clean and safe again. 439 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: It's happening very quickly. 440 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 7: But they proudly carry the flags of other countries, but 441 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 7: they don't carry the American flag. 442 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 6: They only burn it. 443 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 8: Did you see a lot of the flags being burned. 444 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 7: They weren't being burned by people from our country or 445 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 7: from people that love our country. People that burned the 446 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 7: American flag should go to jail for one year. 447 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 3: It's what they should be doing. 448 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: That last piece there, something he has repeated multiple times. 449 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: You know, it has been deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, 450 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: but I'm sure is a you know, if you pull 451 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: it is fairly popular to criminalize the burning of the 452 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: American flag. But in in case, Emily, what do you 453 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: make of the dynamics of the President Derek giving this 454 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: hyperpartisan speech and you know, eliciting cheers and booze from 455 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: the active duty soldiers there. 456 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: At Fort Bragg. I agree with what you said as 457 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: we were queuing up the video that it's something if 458 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: Barack Obama did it, if even John McCain did it, 459 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: nobody would be happy to some extent, because it's Donald Trump, 460 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 3: it's something that we're numb to. And I also think 461 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: not without reason, because he's still, at least for now, 462 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: an exception to how he handles a lot of these situations. 463 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: I mean, even I can't envision jd Vance doing anything 464 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: quite like that. I can't envision a Democrat who I 465 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 3: think would do anything quite like that. But we don't 466 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: really know what happens to these norms after Donald Trump 467 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: is no longer president. So yeah, it's just one of 468 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: the sisters, like, I don't know if this is something 469 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: that we are still in this like temporary Trump moment, 470 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: or if this is something that continues afterwards. 471 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: I think that's a good point because perhaps at this moment, 472 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: he's the only one who can get away with this, 473 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: treating the military as his own personal army effectively, and 474 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: that's certainly the way that he wants them to behave, 475 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: that's certainly the way people want to perceive them, and 476 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: maybe now at this moment, because he's so outrageous in 477 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: so many regards, he's the only one who can even 478 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: remotely get away with that. But once that bridge is 479 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: crossed and that approach to you know, the military deploying 480 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 2: the military against US citizens and routinely using Marines for 481 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: law enforcement in American cities, once that sort of thing 482 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: becomes normalized, then it doesn't just stay with Trump. There's 483 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: a bridge that's crossed and a genie that's out of 484 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: the bottle that's very hard, if not impossible, to put 485 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: back in. And I think that's what is so incredibly 486 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: alarming to be and others about this moment. It just 487 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: give you a little bit of backstory. Jane Cousten was 488 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: able to obtain the sort of like memo that went 489 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: out about how they picked these guys to be standing 490 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: there behind Trump. She got this note that says they 491 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: need everyone seated by this time. Soldiers sitting in the 492 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: bleachers are to be fit and not look fat. Classic 493 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: soldiers in the bleachers will not be allowed to have water, 494 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: so they must hydrate in no colored patches. If any 495 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the 496 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: current administration, and they don't want to be in the 497 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: audience and they need to speak with their leadership and 498 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: get swapped out. Basically, they don't want soldiers not audio 499 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: is rolling their eyes or shaking their head in disagreement, 500 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: et cetera. So they basically put out like a casting 501 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: call here to get the you know, the guys with 502 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: the right political views are going to be loyal to Trump, 503 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: who aren't going to be rolling their eyes or shaking 504 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: their head or you know, not enthusiastic enough, not cheering 505 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: and laughing and applauding at the laugh lines and the 506 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: cheer lines, et cetera. And so that was how they, 507 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: you know, were able to create this this moment, this 508 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: authoritarian strongman moment for president Trump where it appears like 509 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: the military is serving as his sort of like you know, 510 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: personal uh, marching band, cheerleaders, his his force directly rather 511 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: than the servants and protectors of the American people. There 512 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: were also I mentioned before, he's got this military parade 513 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: coming up this weekend in DC. That is going to 514 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: be a very you know, that's going to be a 515 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: troubling moment because he announced in the Oval Office yesterday 516 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: that those any protests, which they're already protests planned for Saturday, 517 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: for that day, that any protest will be met with force, 518 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: making no distinction between peaceful and violent protesters. 519 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take a listen to that. 520 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 7: Maybe there a little bit, but it seems to be 521 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 7: getting less and less because they're going there. They met 522 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 7: with a very heavy force, and if they weren't, you 523 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 7: would have that say right now, would be on fire. 524 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 7: It would be burning down the rest of it, what's 525 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 7: left over, because the other fire was started because they 526 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 7: wouldn't allow water into LA. They wouldn't allow water into 527 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 7: California because they had it all shifted out to the 528 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 7: Pacific Ocean. Then I turned it around, called him up 529 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 7: to tell him kind to do a better job. He's 530 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 7: doing a bad job, causing a lot of death and 531 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 7: a lot of potential death. If we didn't send out 532 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 7: the National Guard, and last time we gave him a 533 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 7: little additional help, you would have Los Angeles would be 534 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 7: burning right now. 535 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 6: The reaction to these large scale height operations in Los Angeles, 536 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 6: should people expect to see similar operations in the. 537 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 8: Rest of the country and we'll similar protests. 538 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 7: The out and what was always as you know, we're 539 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 7: moving murders out of our country that we're put here 540 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 7: by Biden or the Autopen. 541 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 8: The Autopen really did. 542 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 7: A very simple rule of engagement. If they're dangerous, if 543 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 7: they're throwing concrete or bricks, if they're spitting in the 544 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 7: face of the police or whoever's in front of them, 545 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 7: if they're punching people, if they're doing all of the 546 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 7: things that you see done for the last three nights, 547 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 7: that I would say is engagement. 548 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: So that was actually more specifically about what's going on 549 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: in California. I think we have the sought for the 550 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: next block about the military parade where he says, you know, protesters, 551 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: we met with overwhelming force, but you know he's making 552 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: these claims, say oh La California and beyond fire if 553 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: we hadn't sent the National guardsmen. The reality is most 554 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: of the National guardsmen that have been sent I think 555 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: it's like four thousand at this point, have not been 556 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: given orders, are not really doing doing much of anything. 557 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: In fact, local law enforcement LAPD is having a divert 558 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: resources to protect the National cartsman who've been given no orders, 559 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: in nothing to do, which underscores the fact that, I mean, 560 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: even Trump himself has said that things have quieted down 561 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: in LA. Of course he wants to take credit for it, 562 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: but underscores the fact that, as Newsome and Karen Bass 563 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: have been saying, the scope of the protests which were 564 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: within like largely within like one square mile a few 565 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: city blocks in downtown LA, were well within the capability 566 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: of the LAPD to handle. And you know, bringing in 567 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: the National Guard did nothing but inflame tensions and make 568 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: the protests much larger than they would have been otherwise. 569 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 3: So also to the point Crystal about where this goes 570 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 3: from here, let's put a two on the screen. This 571 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: is an indication that the protests are going to continue 572 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: to spread to other cities. As a report from NBC News, 573 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 3: we should also go through a three. This is Jennifer 574 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: Griffin of Fox News noting that the seven hundred Marines 575 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: ordered to help in LA have not yet arrived to 576 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: help control the riots. The Marines will remain at Seal 577 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: Beach south of LA and will be undergoing training for 578 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: a few more days, which Crystal. A few more days 579 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: of training in a situation like this sounds like a 580 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: delay that's intentional to make it look like the Marines 581 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: were involved without ever actually putting the Marines in the situation. 582 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: Because after a few days of training, which is already 583 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: rather nebulous, I don't know that they actually are going 584 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: to find a situation where they put the Marines in 585 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. So that's an interesting one to watch as well. 586 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: It almost is like Pete haig Seth wanted to respond 587 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: to Donald Trump's suggestion and said, Okay, We've got the 588 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: Marines on it, and they're they're undergoing their training for 589 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: you know, civil unrest, and then while the riot's over. 590 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean the reporting I saw as are 591 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: supposed to arrive today, so we'll see. I hope that 592 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: your analysis is the correct one. It also just underscores 593 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: the case like Marines are not trained for crowd control. 594 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: They are trained for offensive combat missions, not to go 595 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: in and act in a law enforcement enforcement capacity against 596 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: American citizens. So, like I said that, what I saw 597 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: is that they're meant to arrive today. We'll see what 598 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: happens there and what use they're put to. 599 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 3: And if they're already arriving after the mayor has implemented 600 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: a curfew. 601 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: Curfew that basically quieted down. Now, I do think there's 602 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: another major flashpoint this weekend with the protests, and you know, 603 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: ice rates are continuing. What I read in the La 604 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: Times this morning is they're actually expanding outside of the 605 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: city into more rural areas, you know, going after farm 606 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: daily laborers and things of that nature. So you know, 607 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: the ice rates are not going to stop. So the 608 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: provocation that originally sparked the protests are not going to 609 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: end either. So you know, certainly the conflagration, I think 610 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: it's way too early to say that that is over. 611 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: There's a lot of reasons to still be really concerned 612 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 2: about where this is all headed. 613 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: Now. 614 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,959 Speaker 2: There has been some some legal action that we wanted 615 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: to update you on. Gavin Newsom put this up on 616 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: the screen. Voden emergency motion to block Trump's I believe 617 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 2: and he agrees a legal deployment of Marines and National 618 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: Guard in LA. He was asking for this a decision 619 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: to be made on this and a tro to be 620 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: issued within two hours. The judge said, no, we're not 621 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: going to issue a tro in the timeframe that you want. Instead, 622 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 2: a hearing is set for Thursday to consider the merits 623 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: of the lawsuit here. And you know, in terms of 624 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 2: the legality, Trump has not invoked the Insurrection Act, which 625 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 2: would give him much more broad powers. Instead, he used 626 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 2: these it's called Title ten powers that seem on their 627 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: face to require the consent and for the governor to 628 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 2: actually be the one that issues the order to federalize 629 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: the National Guard, I mean, the deployment of the Marines. 630 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: I don't even know. 631 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: What legal pretext they are using to justify any sort 632 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: of use of the Marines in a law enforcement setting 633 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: in LA. So that seems to be to be even 634 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: more tenuous. But we'll see what the courts have to 635 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: say about all of this. 636 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 3: Well, christ to say, actually we have a five. This 637 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: is the next element to put on the screen. This 638 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: is from the San Francisco Chronicle, reporting that says, we 639 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 3: obtained a memo from DHS Secretary Christie no I'm asking 640 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 3: d D Secretary Pete Haigsatz the grant soldiers the authority 641 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: to detain or arrest quote unquote lawbreakers in LA. This 642 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 3: would be a step towards the Trump administration invoking the 643 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 3: Insurrection Act. Experts say, so to the question that you 644 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: just raised, are they trying to pave the path to 645 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: the Insurrection Act with some of this? I think is 646 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 3: an open question as well, especially with the reporting and 647 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 3: actually what we saw last night about expansions into other cities. 648 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: I think it's quite likely. 649 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: In a six Stephen Miller has been really leading the 650 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: sort of propaganda charge, and he says here that this 651 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: is the definition of insurrection. LA and California leadership demand 652 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 2: the right to illegally import unlimited foreigners into America, to 653 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: control America's entire immigration policy by FIAT, and if they're 654 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: not so permitted, they'll allow mobs to target Ice with 655 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: impunter I mean, this is just absurd. First of all, 656 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: you know, we we've had court rulings at this point. 657 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: Steven Miller is always using the language of invasion. We've 658 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 2: had multiple courts rule at this point in the context 659 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 2: of alien enemies ec this is not an invasion. This 660 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 2: is you know, absurd, like, this is way beyond the 661 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: bounds of what that language would imply. And it's not 662 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: like Newsome and Bass were standing in the way of 663 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: Ice rates. You know, he makes it sound like they 664 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: were blocking lawn for the ICE from doing anything and 665 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: going in and you know, deporting immigrant. That's just not 666 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: the case whatsoever. But I think the important thing here 667 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 2: is the use of the word insurrection and the attempt 668 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: to lay the groundwork, the rhetorical groundwork to build up 669 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 2: to an invocation of the Insurrection Act, which I've been 670 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 2: pointing out. On Day one, Trumpet signed an executive order saying, hey, 671 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: check into it was Christy Doom and a couple other 672 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: off I think heg Seth, I don't remember a couple 673 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 2: other officials. Hey do an analysis and tell me whether 674 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: I should invoke the Insurrection Act now. So he's been 675 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: looking for an excuse to do this. We've also got 676 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: reporting now that he's been from the jump looking for 677 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 2: a pretext in order to send in federalized National Guard, 678 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: send in troops, potentially invoke the Insurrection Act. So I 679 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: certainly think it is very likely that we are building 680 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: up to exactly that, especially as protests build in cities, 681 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 2: in blue cities across the country. 682 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 3: In particular, you pulled out this quote from a Wall 683 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: Street Journal report yesterday. This is a seven that basically 684 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: it shows this is I'll read it. In Coral Springs, Florida, 685 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: at least eight agents and tactical gear shields and rifles 686 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 3: surrounded a home with guns raised to arrest a father 687 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 3: with no criminal history. And Irvine, California, ICE agents drove 688 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: a phalanx of military vehicles in the Orange County suburb 689 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: to arrest a person, though not for legal immigration. They 690 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: were seeking a resident son who had allegedly posted flyers 691 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: alerting neighbors to the presence of ICE agents. Crystal, that 692 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 3: goes to the point that you were making earlier in 693 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 3: the block about actually whether some of these excessive and 694 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 3: arguably incompetent instances of trying to subdue you know, either 695 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 3: non criminal aliens or American citizens, does that actually hurt 696 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 3: ultimately the effort to take convicted criminals out of the country. 697 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 3: For the Trump administration to take tens of thousands of 698 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: convicted criminals out of the country. It's certainly a hell 699 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 3: of an anecdote there from the Wall Street Journal. 700 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean posting flyers is clearly protected First Amendment activity. 701 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 2: And so you're sending in a failanx of military vehicles 702 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: to go after someone's son who posted some flyers. I mean, 703 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 2: this is insane and I think you know the first 704 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 2: instance was with regard to it was in Florida, again 705 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: not a sanctuary state, but they felt that the numbers, 706 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 2: Steven Miller felt that the numbers were too low when 707 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 2: they were largely focusing on, you know, trying to find 708 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: criminal undocumented immigrants. So they are taking much more aggressive tactics. 709 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: As we've discussed before, part of the plan here is 710 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: to be so insane, so cruel, so over the top 711 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: that you scare people into self deporting themselves. That was 712 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: the point of Seacott. There are also plans now that 713 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 2: have been reported out to send thousands more immigrants, largely 714 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: actually European immigrants to Guantanamo Bay. And so you know 715 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 2: this is the goal, and it ties in also with 716 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 2: the quote unquote big Beautiful Bill, which would provide vastly 717 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: more resources to ICE, both in terms of manpower and 718 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: in terms of partnering with private prison contractors to build 719 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 2: out these massed attention facilities. So you know, these shows 720 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 2: of force are very intentional, even though they are in 721 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: certain instances unconstitutional and wildly, wildly unnecessary. Again, I do 722 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 2: think part of that is when you have this show 723 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 2: of huge numbers of agents coming in fully kitted out 724 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: in military vehicles, you know, with their military gear, the 725 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: public perception of some is so they must be going 726 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 2: after a criminal, even when it's a dad with no 727 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 2: criminal record, even when it's a sun for posting flyers. 728 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: So this is, you know, this imagery and this approach, 729 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: it's all very intentional. I also find it really disturbing 730 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 2: the way that they the ICE agents have taken too 731 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,479 Speaker 2: oftentimes wearing plane clothes and fully masking and obscuring their 732 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 2: their face. And I think that is, you know, deeply 733 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 2: un American and deeply disturbing, and it's led to some instances. 734 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: Already there was a there have been a couple instances 735 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 2: I've seen where people have posed as ICE agents and 736 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 2: in order to themselves commit crimes. The other thing that 737 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 2: I think it's important to note is they've diverted resources 738 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 2: in the FBI and other you know, law enforcement agencies 739 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 2: within the federal government to this mass deportation effort which 740 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: takes them off of other the ability to go after 741 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: other criminal activity. So, you know, back to your original 742 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: point about what you would like to see happen at 743 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 2: how you'd like to see this focus on, you know, 744 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: getting people who have committed crimes and who are on 745 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 2: documented immigrants out of the country. That is not at all, 746 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, they do not at all have a focus 747 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: on criminals, whether it's undocumented or otherwise. 748 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 4: Instead, the focus really is. 749 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: On creating the sense of terror and horror among the 750 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 2: entire immigrant community so that people will themselves self deport 751 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: so that their base will get the red meat that 752 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: they want, and also, I think partly to try to 753 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, to trigger a reaction from the public that 754 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: justifies even more of an authoritarian crackdown, which is exactly 755 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: what we're seeing unfold right now. 756 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 3: It's a very frightening state of affairs because I actually 757 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 3: am sympathetic to a lot of these agents like our 758 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 3: run of the mill and were likely to disgroun on 759 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 3: this run of the mill ice agent who you know 760 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 3: has a family, is trying to provide for them and 761 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 3: is getting you know, videotaped and shot all over social 762 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 3: media all of that. But it's part of the job 763 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 3: at this point. And so it's one of the frustrating 764 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 3: things I think about the Trump era in general is 765 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 3: that the responses to a lot of I think legitimate 766 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: problems and problems with you know, I would say like 767 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: sympathetic at least from my perspective on the right problems, 768 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 3: the reaction is it does go and sometimes, like you 769 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 3: use the phrase anti American, I mean, I do think 770 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: having masked law enforcement officers pulled people off the streets 771 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 3: is and some of them have been citizens, by the way. 772 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 3: We've seen videos of that, so you know, it's it's 773 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 3: a fright state of affairs when you have people who 774 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 3: are in the country illegally not even wanting to show 775 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 3: up to the court hearings because they're deporting people at 776 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 3: the court hearings, which again it's another sort of like 777 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 3: get it if it's your job to deport people who 778 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 3: are overseeing visas and are in the country illegally, But 779 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 3: then people don't even participate in the process anymore because 780 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 3: they're afraid of being deported. So it's setting up they 781 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 3: as a response to a very legitimate crisis I think 782 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 3: created by the buy An administration. It's it's setting us 783 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 3: up for a lot of unrest. I feel like, actually, Crystal, 784 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 3: this this really is just the beginning. But uh, we've 785 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 3: earned a laugh. So I think we should watch the 786 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: Waymos fleeing. 787 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: Yes, wamos are exiting La here they are full service 788 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 2: in downtown La amid ice protest. The Waymos are fleeing 789 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: the scene after a new novel protest tactic of summoning wamos. 790 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize, to be honest with you, that 791 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 2: WEIMO use was as widespread as it is in California. 792 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 2: But to be honest, that's that's kind of interesting of itself. 793 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 3: But the tactic is summoning the Waymos. 794 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 4: To like them on fire. 795 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 3: So it's kind of funny. 796 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 4: It is kind of funny, kind of funny. What I said, 797 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 4: don't do what I said. 798 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if this was on air air, but 799 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 2: what I was saying is like, listen, if we have 800 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 2: an organized war against the robots, I'm here for it, Like, yes, 801 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 2: let's do that. But if we're just doing this as 802 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 2: like I am one who I'm not particularly sympathetic to 803 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 2: the usefulness of setting a weamo on fire and jumping 804 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: on top. 805 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 4: Of it with a Mexican flag. Look, I get it. 806 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm not like it's not a moral issue, but I 807 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: don't think that it is. You can see the way 808 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 2: the Trump administration is like jumped on these images and 809 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: absolutely loves them. So it's not the most helpful thing 810 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 2: in the world, no. 811 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 3: But the way most fleeing in unison, I think it's 812 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 3: just helpful from a levity perspective because we could all 813 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 3: use it. At this point, Christal, we've talked a lot 814 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 3: actually about the expected military parade here in Washington, DC 815 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 3: on Saturday, So let's get to the updates on that story. 816 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 3: Massive presence here in Washington. There are lots of videos 817 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 3: going viral. You can see it of tanks being loaded 818 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,919 Speaker 3: in brought on flatbeds to the city. Let's go ahead 819 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 3: and listen to what Donald Trump had to say about 820 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 3: this yesterday. 821 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 8: We can roll b one celebrating big on Saturday, We're 822 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 8: gonna have a lot of and if there's any protesters 823 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 8: once to come out, they will be met with very 824 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 8: big force. By the way, for those people that want 825 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 8: to protest, They're going to be met with very big force. 826 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 8: And I haven't even heard about a protest, but you know, 827 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 8: this is people that hate our country, but they will 828 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 8: be met with very heavy force. 829 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 3: All right, So estimated price tag between twenty five and 830 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 3: forty five million dollars. We can start dozing. 831 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 2: Bring elon and the chainsaw back. Let's doje it. 832 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 3: Here's B two. You can actually see why the price 833 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 3: tage just as high as it is. This is tanks 834 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 3: rolling into DC, the Washington Monument in the background. It's 835 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: going to be down I believe Constitution Avenue on Saturday 836 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 3: between like six and nine pm I think is roughly 837 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 3: when it's scheduled to go for And this is yeah, 838 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: I mean you're you're looking at tanks rolling down the 839 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 3: streets now, Crystal. Before we tossed to whether the roads 840 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 3: are equipped to handle this, that's a different question. Trump 841 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 3: the legend here. Everyone remembers Trump tried to do this 842 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 3: in his first term after going to France seeing a 843 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 3: French military parade and wanting to bring it back to 844 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 3: the United States. People like Gematis were uncomfortable with it. 845 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 3: In Trump one point zero. But now Trump is you know, 846 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 3: much more staff by loyalist Pete Hegseth is an obvious 847 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: example of that. People who are ideologically aligned with him 848 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,240 Speaker 3: and aligned with sort of going along with his mission, 849 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 3: or they're aligned with that sort of that loyalty to Trump. 850 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 3: Let's put it that way, and have really no hesitation 851 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 3: about going along with this. There is a scheduled day 852 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 3: of defiance or a planned day of defiance, more protests 853 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 3: on Saturday. The Washington Post is reporting this is B three. 854 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 3: We've heard about this actually since Trump said he was 855 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 3: going to do the military parade here in DC. We've 856 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 3: heard that they're actually needing to put metal plates, and 857 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 3: I've seen some of them. Actually, they're not fun if 858 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 3: you're like biking around, but they've had to reinforce the 859 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 3: road with metal plates to prevent damage. When you have 860 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 3: one hundred vehicles in addition to, as the Post reports, 861 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: thousands of soldiers, dozens of tanks, and more than one 862 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 3: hundred other vehicles scheduled for that procession along Constitution Avenue. 863 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 3: The gross weight so the ones that are supported by 864 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 3: the government, that can be supported by the government vehicles 865 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 3: would be eighty thousand pounds, but the Abrams tanks each 866 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 3: way about seventy tons. There's twenty eight of those planning 867 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 3: that the administration is planning to roll down in the 868 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 3: parade again for the Army's two hundred and fiftieth birthday, 869 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 3: which I will say actually is on Saturday. It actually 870 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 3: does coincide with Donald Trump's birthday and Saturday in the summer, 871 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 3: sort of a I don't know Chrystal, whether that's an 872 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 3: unfortunate coincidence for Trump, it's clearly a fortunate coincidence, But 873 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 3: I think he would be doing something for the Army's 874 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 3: two hundred and fiftieth birthday, to be honest, anyway, he 875 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 3: really wanted to have this military parade. Maybe what would 876 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 3: the what would the QAnon people say about that? Maybe 877 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 3: there's something we're supposed to be reading into this, something. 878 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 2: I've lost I've lost the threat a bit with where 879 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 2: the QAnon people are at this point. I think there's 880 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,959 Speaker 2: splinter factions. I know there are some who had turned 881 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 2: on Michael Flynn, some who were still, you know, still 882 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 2: in league with Michael Flynn. 883 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,919 Speaker 4: So I've lost touch a little bit with with where 884 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 4: they are at this point. 885 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 2: They're probably out there justifying Palentiner, taking all of our 886 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,800 Speaker 2: data and creating this giant panopticon as somehow fighting the 887 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 2: deep state is probably what they're up to at this point. 888 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 3: But trust I mean process. 889 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 2: Listen, if this was a one off and you were 890 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 2: just having military parade and there wasn't not guardsmen who'd 891 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 2: been federalized over the objections of the California governor in 892 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: the street, marines being deployed against American citizens, a US 893 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 2: congresswoman who was just indicted on charges that could get 894 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 2: hurt seventeen years in prison. By the way, if you 895 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: didn't have Trump out there saying that we are going 896 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 2: to meet protesters with overwhelming force, making no distinction between 897 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 2: whether they were peaceful or whether they were violent, maybe 898 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 2: then you'd go. And that's a waste of money. It's 899 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,479 Speaker 2: going to mess up the DC streets, which really don't 900 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: need that. You know, DC budget really doesn't need the 901 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 2: extra tens of millions of dollars is going to take 902 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 2: to repair the damage, et cetera. 903 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 4: But is it the biggest deal in the world. 904 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 2: No. When you put all of those pieces together, it 905 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 2: really does feel like you are building to a crescendo 906 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 2: of authoritarian power grab sorry, fascist imagery that is quite 907 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 2: intentional and quite frightening and quite overwhelming. And that's not 908 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 2: even to mention the things that we talked about before, 909 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 2: the attacks on public universities, the crushing of descent and 910 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 2: free speech. The counter terrors are basically framing anyone who 911 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 2: is a protester of any of these administration's policies as 912 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: providing material support for terrorists. The afore mentioned Talenteer database 913 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 2: that seeks to surveil and compile all of the data 914 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 2: on everyone who's in the country, you at, citizen and 915 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 2: not so that that crushing of descent can be wielded 916 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: much more effectively. When you put all of these pieces together, 917 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 2: troubling does not begin to describe it. And so I 918 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 2: think this is a very fraught, combustible moment with potentially 919 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 2: dire and far reaching consequences for the direction that this 920 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: country goes in. And especially, you know, when you do 921 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 2: have large scale protests that have been pre planned, which 922 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 2: you know, people should have the right to protest their government. 923 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 2: That's kind of, you know, a core American value. When 924 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 2: you have those protests planned, when you already have Trump 925 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 2: and Stephen Miller and others providing the rhetorical justification to 926 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 2: launch this mass crackdown. I think everyone, I don't care 927 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,240 Speaker 2: where you are on the political spectrum, I think everyone 928 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,720 Speaker 2: should be deeply concerned for what that means for your rights, 929 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 2: for the rights of you know, your friend's family, your neighbors, 930 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 2: for your ability to dissent from anything this government or 931 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 2: a future regime does as well. I think we're on 932 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: very very treacherous ground and that it will be difficult 933 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 2: to walk back from some of the things that are 934 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 2: being done right now. 935 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 4: In this time. 936 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 3: Let's put before on the screen. This is a local 937 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 3: news breakdown of the expected cost here. So Trump has 938 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 3: said on Meet the Press that the cost is peanuts 939 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 3: compared to the value of doing it, but again that 940 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 3: number is potentially as high as forty five million dollars, 941 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 3: and they broke down even like six teen million of 942 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 3: that could come from just repairing the roads afterwards. So 943 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 3: you know, they're also advertising really heavily in the area 944 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 3: within like five hours of DC, roughly five hours of DC, 945 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 3: trying to get people to come to it. I think 946 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 3: that's another open question about this. What we can look 947 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 3: at here on B five is counter protests that are 948 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 3: planned to spread throughout the country, and one of the 949 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 3: things Crystal. Building on what you were just talking about, 950 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 3: I wanted to mention is these are being rallied, These 951 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 3: are being organized under the banner of No Kings, and 952 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 3: so if you look at the map here there are 953 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 3: planned counter protests all over the country, but no Kings. 954 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting branding. And I think it's 955 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 3: really interesting branding for a counter protest movement Jax opposed 956 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 3: with the resistance movement of twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, 957 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty because No Kings is implicitly and inherently patriotic, 958 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 3: and I think appeals to the patriotism of the average 959 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 3: American in a way that resistance never did. So I'm 960 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 3: curious what you make of that, Crystal, because I think, uh, 961 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 3: that's actually a very for the left. Positive development. 962 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is a smart framing and I 963 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 2: think app and that the cat has just joined. 964 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 4: As you see behind. 965 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 2: Kings except for Salem, except for Salem, and Salem as 966 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,760 Speaker 2: are that's definitely the king in this household. 967 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 4: But No, I think it is. I think it is 968 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 4: intelligent branding. 969 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 2: And this is why you know, I know Soger and 970 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 2: it seems like you feel like, oh, the crackdown in LA, 971 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 2: like this is going to play into Trump's hands. And 972 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm like really leery at this point of 973 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 2: offering political predictions because I think things have been so 974 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 2: difficult to predict ultimately. 975 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 4: But I don't. I think this is too much, too fast. 976 00:54:55,040 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 2: Where the fears of Trump and the worst, you know, 977 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 2: worst concerns, the gravest concerns about how this man would 978 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 2: behave if you gave him the power of the presidency 979 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,879 Speaker 2: again are just undeniably present. You know, if you look 980 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: at the polling, people are not crazy about the protesters. 981 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 2: People are never crazy about protesters. Although actually, with the 982 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 2: exception of the BLM protesters, they were overwhelmingly popular. But 983 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 2: even if you look back at like the Civil Rights movement, 984 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 2: you know, those protesters were also not popular. If you 985 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,439 Speaker 2: look at Trump's response to it, using marines against protesters, 986 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 2: wildly unpopular. His ratings on immigration still okay, they're his 987 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 2: best ratings, but he's barely above water if he is 988 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 2: at all. That's in like the best polls. Some of 989 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 2: the polls find his deportation like ratings even on things 990 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 2: like deportations deeply underwater. 991 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 4: Americans they don't want a king. 992 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 2: I do think there is a reaction against this, very 993 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 2: clear like power grab, and there are so much in 994 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 2: the floods of the zone strategy that is hitting people 995 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 2: in the face right now that I would not be 996 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 2: so confident if I was the Republicans that this politically 997 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 2: is to their benefit. Now, maybe their plan is for 998 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,760 Speaker 2: it not really to matter that much what the American 999 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 2: people think about it. Maybe their plan is to continue 1000 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 2: with their power grab such that dissent is crushed, that 1001 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 2: there is limited ability to voice your concerns electorally. I'm 1002 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 2: not talking like, oh, they're going to cancel elections or whatever, 1003 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 2: but you can see scenarios where the pretext of crushing 1004 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 2: protests is used to take control of some of the 1005 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 2: voting apparatus. 1006 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 4: You could certainly. 1007 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's very easy to imagine situations where they 1008 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 2: just outright reject whatever the election results are that are 1009 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 2: unfavorable to them. So maybe they don't particularly care about 1010 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 2: the politics of it, but to the extent they do, 1011 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 2: I think this is much more treacherous than they imagine, 1012 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 2: especially when you know the reality of what who is 1013 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,280 Speaker 2: being deported in the way that it's being handled. Is 1014 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 2: staring people in the face. You know, they're having to 1015 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 2: grapple with the pregnant mom who's married to an American citizen, 1016 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 2: or the you know, the dad with no criminal record 1017 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 2: who has all the agents show up at his house, 1018 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 2: or the son who's just like posting flyers and is 1019 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 2: being met with this insane use of force. Because the 1020 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 2: truth of the matter is emily that there is no 1021 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 2: ability to do a mass deportation strategy that doesn't involve 1022 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 2: a massive police state that is going to impact literally everyone, 1023 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 2: and I think we've already seen that with the crushing 1024 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 2: of the you know, the pro Palestine dissent, because by definition, 1025 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 2: you have to sore down, okay, who is citizen and 1026 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: who is non citizen. That means that you were going 1027 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 2: to have to you know, inquire and have your surhil 1028 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 2: and state hit citizens as well. 1029 00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 4: The money that's in the. 1030 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 2: Budget for the big beautiful bill for ice for detention centers, 1031 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 2: there's no way to just keep that confined to whatever 1032 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 2: population it is. I think it's mostly like, you know, 1033 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 2: if you look at the pulling people very comfortable as 1034 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 2: they should be with deporting like criminal and documented immigrants. 1035 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 2: You go beyond that the numbers actually really fall off 1036 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 2: a cliff. And when you ask specifically about people have 1037 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 2: no criminal record who have been here for a long time, 1038 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm talking it's like seventy five twenty five that people 1039 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: feel like, why are you. 1040 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 4: Messing with these people? 1041 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 2: They are just like living their lives and not causing 1042 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 2: people any kind of harm. So again, maybe they don't 1043 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 2: care about the politics, which is what is a terrifying 1044 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 2: I think in real possibility. But to the extent they do, 1045 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 2: I don't think they are as on nearly as firm 1046 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 2: a ground as they feel they are right now. 1047 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 3: No, I mean I think they care about the politics. 1048 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 3: I think they're also some of them are very online. 1049 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 3: But I actually I also still think on the narrow 1050 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 3: question of the riots, I do think it's I do 1051 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 3: more soccer on that life, like it's it's helpful to 1052 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 3: Trump because people like Gavin Newsom still haven't addressed the 1053 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 3: problem that voters care more about in a satisfactory way. 1054 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 3: But that aside, the no kingsing is really interesting to 1055 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 3: me because I feel like that's sort of this man 1056 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 3: is having a forty five million dollar, potentially forty five 1057 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 3: million dollar military parade, happens to fall on his birthday, 1058 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 3: and he is like in some cases encouraging snowflakery from 1059 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 3: like law enforcement that has to cover their faces and 1060 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 3: anti americanly. I think there's something that Dems can tap 1061 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 3: into that is almost emasculating, but not in the way 1062 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 3: that the Resistance thought that they had him by claiming 1063 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 3: there was a pe tape and you know, having those 1064 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 3: disgusting blow up balloons of him everywhere he went where 1065 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 3: it was like naked, it was just weird, didn't work, 1066 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 3: and Crystal, you know this because you live outside of DC, 1067 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 3: like there was something. There is something very real for 1068 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people who maybe don't love Trump but 1069 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 3: continue to vote for him and continue to sympathize with 1070 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 3: him or agree with him over Democrats on some of 1071 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 3: these culture war questions because they do love America. The 1072 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 3: people can disagree with this, but they feel like Trump 1073 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 3: loves America. And again, you could disagree with that. You 1074 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 3: can hate that everything's wrong, but that's something that people 1075 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 3: like about Trump is that he seems to like the country. 1076 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 3: And I do think that's a mistake that Democrats made 1077 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 3: in the resistance era was not meeting so many people 1078 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 3: where they are on that question, and it allowed them 1079 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 3: to look unpatriotic and allowed the American people to think 1080 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 3: that they're unpatriotic because they weren't kind of leading with 1081 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 3: that question in particular. And I think that's why the 1082 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 3: No King's branding is actually very very smart for the left. 1083 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I mean, I think that it is an 1084 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 2: intelligent branding, and especially I mean, this is the way 1085 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 2: he behaves in everything, you know, even with the tariffs, 1086 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 2: wanting people to come and like, yeah, been the knee, 1087 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 2: you know, he wants to make it so that Fema 1088 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 2: is ad is dispatched at his bequest, you know. Is 1089 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 2: this is the way that he operates in every respect, 1090 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 2: and so when you put the label on it, all 1091 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 2: these pieces fit together, including the use of the American 1092 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 2: US military as his own private force. Secretary of the 1093 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 2: Army actually called it Trump's army or his army this 1094 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 2: morning on Fox News. So they really are pushing that 1095 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 2: and trying to normalize that sense that this is a 1096 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 2: force that should be wielded at the whims of the president, 1097 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 2: which is not the way that obviously that is fundamentally 1098 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 2: anti American, un American, and that is consistent with the 1099 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 2: way that a king would behave, not a duly elected 1100 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 2: president of the United States. So yeah, I agree with 1101 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 2: you that I think it's it's intelligent branding. We'll see 1102 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 2: how widespread the protests are, We'll see what the crackdown 1103 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 2: is going to be. And the last thing I'll say 1104 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 2: on this is I also think that there is just 1105 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 2: something deeply disturbing about watching all of these tanks being 1106 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 2: rolled into DC that hits on a visceral level as well. 1107 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 2: You know, we talked about the optics of the protests 1108 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 2: and what people take from that, et cetera. And you know, 1109 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 2: I'm not one that says like, oh, that doesn't matter 1110 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 2: and we can't talk about or whatever. But I think 1111 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 2: equally damning are the optics of tanks rolling into the 1112 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 2: nation's capital for a celebration of the president's birthday. That's 1113 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 2: just with many people, that is just not going to 1114 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 2: sit right. 1115 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 3: Speaking of the Teriffs, brothers, tiny bit of news on 1116 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 3: this front, actually massive bit of news in this front. 1117 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 3: Trump has posted while we were recording Crystal that the 1118 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 3: deal with China is done, subject to final approval with 1119 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 3: President Sheet and me full magnets and any necessary rare 1120 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 3: earth will be supplied upfront by China. Likewise, we will 1121 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 3: provide to China what was agreed to, including Chinese students 1122 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 3: using our colleges and universities, which has always been good 1123 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 3: with me, he says. And we're getting a total of 1124 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 3: fifty five percent tariff. China is getting ten percent, And 1125 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 3: of course he ends his post in my favorite sign off, 1126 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 3: thank you for your attention to this matter. So, Chris, so, 1127 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 3: thank you for your attention to this matter. 1128 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they apparently really I guess didn't think through 1129 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 2: the whole rare Earth situation. Kind of freaked out about that. 1130 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 2: So that is interesting. I'm sure Soccer and I'll dig 1131 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 2: into that more tomorrow. I feel like we talked too 1132 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 2: long about la and Trump, So maybe should we should 1133 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 2: we skip over Tulsi and her weird nuclear warning video 1134 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 2: and jump straight ahead to John Stewart. 1135 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 3: What do you think people can look up the weird 1136 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 3: Tulsi video. They should look up the weird Tulsi video. 1137 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 3: There would have there's maybe we'll talk about it on Friday, 1138 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 3: but there's there's some interesting stuff to dig into. 1139 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 4: It is a good Friday topic. Yeah, let's do it. 1140 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 4: Let's do it for Friday. 1141 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the response to it is like probably even 1142 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 2: more unhinged video. But to me, top line take, this 1143 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 2: is like what happens when you have someone who is 1144 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 2: an influencer put in a position of power. They never 1145 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 2: really let go of their and my quick take hold 1146 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,919 Speaker 2: on the influencer world. 1147 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 3: My quick take is that Tulsi's freaked out by all 1148 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 3: of the deep sit people that she works with now 1149 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 3: and we should mention before we let the guoks. We 1150 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 3: teast it up at the top crysal that there have 1151 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 3: been significant escalations in the Russia Ukraine conflict that are 1152 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 3: getting buried in the domestic news cycle. The BBC headline 1153 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 3: this morning is record number of drone attacks signals dangerous, 1154 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 3: dangerous shift in the war, large gale, Russian droone attacks 1155 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 3: on Ukrainian cities are on the rise. There was a 1156 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 3: bombardment Monday night, and so this is not We've covered 1157 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 3: this many times in the last couple of weeks, but 1158 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 3: this is not de escalating with the presidency that promised 1159 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 3: to end it in twenty four hours, even if that 1160 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 3: was sarcastic or hyperbolic. We are into June here, so 1161 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 3: about six months in so nothing seems to sadly, there 1162 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 3: does not seem to be a light at the end 1163 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 3: of the tunnel. Yeah. 1164 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, a very very troubling situation and series of 1165 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 2: escalatory actions that we've been watching unfold there, you know, 1166 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 2: with the with the Russians, but with the Ukrainian drone 1167 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 2: swarm attack inside of Russia, and now Russia responding with 1168 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 2: an aggressive attack directly on Kievs. 1169 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 3: And Telsa Gabbert's video. The connective to she was that 1170 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 3: she was talking warning about the imminent 1171 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 4: Threat of the consequences of nuclear war exactly