1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We roll 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: through the second hour Tuesday edition of the program. Encourage 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: you to go subscribe to the podcast, where you're going 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: to be dropping new, cool podcast exclusive content. We love 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: all of you who listen to the radio every day. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: But if you want the full I was gonna say Monty, 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: but given we just talking about it, wasn't me with Shaggy, 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the wrong answer. If you want the full experience, 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: if you want the full Clay and Buck catalog, you 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: need to go subscribe on iTunes, on Stitcher, on Google Play, 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: on Spotify, everywhere out there. Search out my name Clay Travis, 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: search out Buck Sexton Boom. You'll be able to get 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: everything that we do in the audio space, and I 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: think you will enjoy it. So I had not seen 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: this until Buck sent me this story and or discussed 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: it with me, and I tracked it down. I don't 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: read a lot of The Atlantic. It's probably an indictment 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: of me. I think I get enough of the Washington 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: Post in the New York Times without needing to subscribe 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: to the Atlantic, but someone named Maggie Mertons wrote a 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: story that is one of the dumbest stories I've ever 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: seen in the world of athletics and the coming denial 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: of biologies stuff. Yeah. Look, I've had a lot of 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: dumb opinions over the years in the world of sports, 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: as many of you well know, and may continue to 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: have a lot of dumb opinions on a variety of 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: different things. I've never had an opinion this dumb. The 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: argument is separating sports by sex doesn't make sense. That's 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: the headline of the Atlantic article. Those school sports are 32 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: typically sex segregated. A new generation of kids isn't to 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: content to compete within traditional structures. This is, let me 34 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: be clear, the natural evolution of the argument that men 35 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: can compete against women, the whole Leah Sam madness that 36 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: you had a dude who decided to become a woman 37 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: and then became the greatest women's swimmer of the year 38 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: in college athletics. The natural outgrowth of transgender athletes is 39 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: left wingers are going to say, we just need to 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: have a unisex category. Why are we even separating men's 41 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: and women's athletes, which is exactly what the Athletic the 42 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Atlantic is arguing here. And the reason buck is because 43 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: women are not big, as big, as strong, and as 44 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: fast as men. But this is wild. In the article 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: just now trot out things that are one hundred percent 46 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: not true and in fact are anti science. And this 47 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: has become a big deal. Biology isn't real too many 48 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: left wingers anymore. And it says here school sports are 49 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: typically sex segregated, and decades of research have sown sex 50 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: is far more complex than we may think, and those 51 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: sex differences in sports show advantages for men. Researchers today 52 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: still don't know how much of this to attribute to 53 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: biological differences versus the lack of support provided to women 54 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: athletes to reach their highest potential. Let me be clear here. 55 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: There is no Chicken America who is going to be 56 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: faster than Usain Bolt. There is no one in the 57 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: history of women's athletics who is going to be as 58 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: good of a quarterback as Tom Brady. All right, this 59 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: is not biological. You don't even have to go to 60 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: the extremes of who the greatest male athletes are in 61 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: their sports. I mean, you can look at what ends 62 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: up happening. I mean, for example, I saw Serena Williams, 63 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: who many argue is the greatest female tennis player of 64 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: all times and is dominant in a way that you've 65 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: never seen somebody else in that sport be dominant. Right, 66 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: there is a woman who won whose last name is Court. 67 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: I believe it's Margaret Court who won more majors that 68 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: it was like fifty years still why she's Australian, Yeah, 69 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: but it was why it was a long time ago. 70 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: The sport was very different speed then, very different, very 71 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: different game in a lot of ways. But Serena Williams 72 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: as somebody who's I've played enough tennis to tell you 73 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: that Serena Williams would lose to certainly the top two 74 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: hundred men on the tour and would probably even lose 75 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: to a top d one men's NC double a tennis player, Okay, 76 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I just to give and she's the greatest of all 77 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: times would argue in the sport as a as a woman. 78 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, John McEnroe got in trouble 79 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: because he said Serena wouldn't be one of the best 80 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: seven hundred men's players in the one hundred percent true. 81 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe you got in trouble if it's not 82 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: even close, by the way, and yeah, because he said 83 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: Serena was very talented, but she was the best women's 84 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: players because he was getting an interview and the interviewer said, 85 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you say she's the greatest tennis player of 86 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: all time? And he said, because she's not. There are 87 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred men right now who are way better than 88 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Serena Williams. And I talked to a bunch of pro 89 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: athletes in tennis after that, and they said, Serena Williams 90 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: an incredible talent, she wouldn't be on any decent college 91 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: men's tennis team. She couldn't make them correct. So it's 92 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: not even that she's not in the top seven hundred. 93 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: She's not in the top ten thousand best men's tennis 94 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: players in the world, according to guys who were way 95 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: more talented in tennis than me. I mean, the women's 96 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 1: soccer US NOW national team played, was it the under 97 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: sixteen or the It was the under sixteen team, so 98 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: fourteen eighteen, I think it was fifteen and under in Dallas. 99 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: The best fifteen and under boys in Dallas. So kids 100 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: who are I mean, who are you know? Years away 101 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: from reaching full physical maturity, and they blew out the 102 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: women's national team like eight to nothing, which in soccer terms, 103 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: or was it six to nothing? It was they beat 104 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: them comfortably. I don't remember the exact score. But the 105 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: point you're making, which is a really good one, is 106 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: that high school boys in one city in America, I 107 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: think it was like five to two as the women 108 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: were training the US women's national team, which is the 109 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: best women's team in the world, as they were training, 110 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: they scrimmaged against these boys, and the boys beat them 111 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: fifteen and from Dallas, Texas. Another good stat for you 112 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: is every high school champion in the state of Texas 113 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: in track and field was fast at every category, every division. 114 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: Was faster than the fastest woman in the history of 115 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: the world. I'm sorry it was it was five to two, 116 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: by the way I looked at it, five to two, 117 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: which is still a bunch of churches. Which you know, 118 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: you and I both played high school soccer. If you 119 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: lost five to two to another team, you went home 120 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: feeling bad about yourself. You weren't close to winning, right, um, 121 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: And yes, so they wiped them and again that's not 122 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: the best fifteen year old boys. Was I write about 123 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: it being fifteen and under. It wasn't the best fifteen 124 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: year old boys in the United States. It was the 125 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: best fifteen year old boys in Dallas, Texas, one city 126 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: fifteen year old boys trounced the US women's team. So 127 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: here's where we are with this whole gender in sports situation. 128 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: The the left has reached the they've reached the terminus year. 129 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: They've reached the full ends of where this all leads, 130 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: which five years ago was oh no, it's not that 131 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: it's just about being inclusive, or oh no, it's just 132 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: about respect. Now it's honestly, we just need to eliminate 133 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: segregated by sex sports because there's no difference in men 134 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: and women. Physical made up their head, it's made up 135 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: in your head. This is crazy, but it's just as 136 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: crazy to say that there is no innate physical difference 137 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: in a more general sense between men and women. But 138 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: they do this. The Left does this because they are malcontents, 139 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: because they want to kick at the load bearing walls 140 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: of our civilization. And part of this is also to 141 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: force people. I always I think this is very important. 142 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: I give it so Gulag Archipelago. Soulso needs it, you know, 143 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Gulag Archipelago, right, one of the most important works of 144 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: the twentieth century. Everybody should at least read some of it. 145 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: It's tough reading in the sense that it's deeply depressing. 146 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: But they made everybody who went through the Gulag system 147 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: they were they were They were putting people through this 148 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: and sending them away to die. They were physically abusing them. 149 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: They always wanted a confession. The reason they always wanted 150 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: a confession is because they wanted to break you. They 151 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: knew the charges were fake. They knew they were lying 152 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: about the hordes of people that they were bringing in 153 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: who were innocent and then sending off to the Gulag 154 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,359 Speaker 1: to die and be tortured. But they wanted to emotionally 155 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: and psychologically break you, so they made you sign crazy charges, 156 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: the equivalent of they beat you until you say I 157 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: assassinated Abraham Lincoln, right, something that's just it doesn't matter. 158 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: The point with the left now they want you to 159 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: say men and women aren't different, because then they've broken you. 160 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: Then they can get you to admit anything. And think 161 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: about how few people in sports are actually willing to 162 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: stand up to how crazy this is. What the practical 163 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: impact of this would be is there would basically be 164 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: no women's athletics because if there were whatever high school 165 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: you go to or went to, or your kids or 166 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: your grandkids go to, if you did away, let's say 167 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: with women soccer and men's basketball, and you just played 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: basketball at that school and you just played soccer at 169 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: that school, there would be no girls on the team. 170 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: They wouldn't be good enough. That's not a slight against 171 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: women's athletics. I enjoy all different types of athletics. But 172 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: if you just had basketball and you just had soccer, 173 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: you didn't have the Women's World Cup, and you didn't 174 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: have the men's World Cup, And if you didn't have 175 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: the w NBA and you just had the NBA, there 176 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: would be no women's athletes that would ever make those teams. 177 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: There would be no women's Olympians because there is no 178 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: sport where men and women compete evenly, any sport, and 179 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm aware of where a woman could beat all the 180 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: band in the world. Then you have the part of 181 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: the article that goes into well, if you look at 182 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, ten and eleven year olds, you know they 183 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: can play, they can play sports together. It's it's like, 184 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: so are we all going to pretend that the massive 185 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: inflows of different hormones and pituitary gland action between men 186 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: and women it has no difference. We're all gonna act 187 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: like we don't realize. All of a sudden, clay men 188 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: start getting body hair in places they're not used to. 189 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: They start getting muscles that all of a sudden are 190 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: stronger than they used to be. We're supposed to act 191 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: like we don't know this. I mean, this is the 192 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: thing about the Atlantic is that it exists to present 193 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: a leftist, socially palatable worldview to libs who think they're 194 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: really smart. How can they read this and still believe 195 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: that they're intelligent human beings. I mean, this is brainwashing, Buck, 196 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Some of these quotes are crazy. This is from a 197 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: University of British Columbia professor. She says, part of the 198 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: reason why we have this belief boys are stronger than girls, 199 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: and even the fact that we believe gender is a 200 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: binary is because of sports, not the other way around. Look, 201 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: I coached the league to your point, Buck, before boys 202 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: get testosterone and hit puberty. This is true. Girls and 203 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: boys athletes are not very different. And then boys become 204 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: way bigger, way stronger, and way faster. And this is 205 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: not some like external thing that I have made up, 206 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan is not a chick, right, um, and 207 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: it could never have been a girl. Right. So the 208 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: people who actually play sports think this is crazy. And 209 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: what needs to happen and hasn't happened yet, is all 210 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: these women's athlete players, right, and the people who have 211 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: advocated for Title nine in the first place. The reason 212 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: why Title nine exists is because of women not getting 213 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: equal opportunity to men in their own sport. It's not 214 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: because look the best funding. So this is so when 215 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: I rode crew in college, the UMass and a UMass 216 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: University Massachusetts men's team had to basically self fund. They were, yeah, 217 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: they had to sell scholarships. And the women's team had 218 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: brand new I mean these Cruisells cost like thirty grand, 219 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: probably more than that. Now. The women's team had the newest, 220 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: best gear. Why because the school had to find ways 221 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: to spend lots of money on women's sports. The men's 222 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: team they were out there and like a like a 223 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: bathtub with some oars. It was ridiculous, which which by 224 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: the way, is primarily because of football, because football takes 225 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: up eighty five scholars so much from every college, and 226 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: then they have to equal that. And this is a 227 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: really interesting legal argument. Maybe somebody wants to make it 228 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: in the in the wake of this Atlantic article. You know, 229 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: football doesn't it's not men's football. Women are technically eligible 230 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: to play football. They're just not good enough. So should 231 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: you even count those as eighty five male scholarships? I 232 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: mean legally, just think about it, like is maybe hey, 233 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: according to the Atlantic, maybe the next Ray Lewis is 234 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: some five ft two five foot two woman who's just 235 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: not getting an opportunity. There was a football on movie 236 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: where Kathy Ireland was the kicker. Yeah, Kathy Ireland was Vanderbilt, 237 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: my alum. My school had a female kicker. See, there's 238 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: a real, real strong point for women's athletics. Should have 239 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: been the quarterback honestly too. But anyway, this article, I'm 240 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: gonna share it. You guys can go read it. We'll 241 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: put it up on Clay and Buck. It's one of 242 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: the dumbest things that I've ever seen. 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So I 271 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: am a I wouldn't even say I'm an advanced beginner. 272 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm like a mediocre beginner. But I saw this in 273 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: the world of what I guess is sports, The world 274 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: number one Magnus Carlson resigned after one move in a 275 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: rematch against this US teenage phenomenon, nineteen year old Hans Niemen, 276 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: and they were apparently totally taken aback by this. Now 277 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: some are saying this is because there are allegations that Nieman, 278 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: the nineteen year old, is cheating, And there was even 279 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: some rumors spreading on the internet that Elon must have 280 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: made a joke about that he's getting chess signals through 281 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: something he had put in the area. You're so nervous 282 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: batal beads, I don't even know how this would work. 283 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how you would be able to get signals. 284 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: But this is a legit story that he is being 285 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: somehow signaled on what moves he should make based on 286 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: the use of anal beat, an electronic stimulation device placed 287 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: into his rear end. This is a real thing that 288 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: people are talking about now. This guy did quit after 289 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: one move, which is crazy. So it's clearly sending some 290 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: the world number one in chess, this is sending shockwaves 291 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: through the chess world. This is like, I haven't said 292 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: anything like this since the Searching for Bobby Fisher movie 293 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: came out. Remember that that was pretty good? Yeah, it 294 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: was great. Um, this is the story is made for 295 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: a couple of the writers that we have an OutKick 296 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: who have dove in to cover this. Cover this like 297 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: it's Watergate. Um, but uh it is. It is kind 298 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: of an unbelievable story, right and it must be some 299 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: legitimacy to it. If the world number one is refusing 300 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: to pay the only one. I don't even know how 301 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: you solve this. Do they have to play duke? And 302 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: when you're playing chess and you can either go with 303 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: your gut or have something in your butt. That's freak 304 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: well said. I think they're gonna put that on T 305 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: shirts all over chess clubs in America. Business owners have 306 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: it tough, particularly when it comes to edging employees these days, 307 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: with more regulations than ever, not to mention the most 308 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: competitive marketplace for great employees, keeping up with changing regulations 309 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: and HR compliance, hiring and retaining top talent, handling payrole. 310 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: The list goes on. 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Welcome back in Clay 320 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out 321 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: with us as we roll through the Tuesday edition of 322 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: the program. I want to give credit to a lot 323 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: of you out in Oregon who have been reaching out 324 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: to the show. We appreciate everybody listening in Portland, and 325 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: you've been saying, Clay and Buck, you need to be 326 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: paying attention to what's going on in the Oregon governor's race. 327 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: It's not getting a lot of attention right now, but 328 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: Christine Drayson is putting together an incredible an incredible campaign, 329 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: and people are telling us that you are going to 330 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: end up winning this race. And we bring in now 331 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: the woman who is trying to turn the state of 332 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Oregon read and Christina, I just want you to run 333 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: us through what you're hearing from people all over the 334 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: state of Oregon and how much the disaster that is 335 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: Portland is feeding into so much of the momentum that 336 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: you are picking up on to the point where a 337 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: lot of people that I trust believe you're going to 338 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: be the next governor of Oregon. So, first, thank you 339 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: so much for having me on today. I am super 340 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: excited to be on this show. I'm a big fan, 341 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: so this is an exciting moment for me. Let's just 342 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: let's just get that out there. Thank you. In radio, 343 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: all of those things in one hand in hand basically 344 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: is what we're talking about right now. No Oregonians across 345 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: our state are feeling what um you know, whether or 346 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: not you're in Portland or Pendleton, you know, Eugene or 347 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: equal point. Folks across Oregon want change right now because 348 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: we have had Democrats in charge for forty years in 349 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: the governor's office, but ten years of both branches of 350 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: government as far as the legislature and the governor's office 351 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: are concerned, which has led to a precipitous decade of decline, 352 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: where now we have homelessness, we have rampant drug use, 353 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: we have crime that skyrocketed, we have our schools that 354 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: are failing. All of these basic foundational elements of what 355 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: makes a strong state and frankly leads to strong families 356 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: and strong communities has just fallen off the cliff here 357 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: in Oregon, and folks here want change. They're not talking 358 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: about partisan politics, they're not talking about Republican versus Democrat. 359 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: They're talking about balance, accountability, and just a better quality 360 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: of life. I mean, Biden's inflation is just obliterating everybody 361 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: across the nation, but here in Oregon. It's especially shocking 362 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: because Democrats in the legislature here have raised three billion 363 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: dollars of taxes in just a six month period a 364 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: few years back, and all of that gets pushed down 365 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: to Oregonians, and now we've got this inflation. They're feeling 366 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: in their pocketbooks, They're feeling it in their businesses, they're 367 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: feeling it in their schools. Everywhere you look, Oregonians are saying, Nope, 368 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: this thing an't working no more. We need change. Christine, 369 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: the decisions that have been made, I mean, I'm curious 370 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: if you could just explain to us what has been 371 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: done there that has brought the state of Oregument more 372 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: specifically Portland and the surrounding area to its current state. 373 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: I've alway been in Portland war once. It was in 374 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, and I remember thinking what a cool, 375 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: beautiful city it was, with great food. But every year 376 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: since then, I've just been reading more and more about 377 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: the deterioration. It became really a kind of the capital 378 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: of Antifa on the West coast, and the lawlessness and 379 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: the anarchy and the homelessness and the drugs they were 380 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: they were essentially camping out outside of an ice facility. 381 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: If I remember, immigrations and customs enforcement and harassing federal 382 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: immigration officials and nobody was doing anything about it. What 383 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: were the decisions that were made? Like why did the 384 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: city of Portland and then more broadly, the state of 385 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: Oregon deteriorates so rapidly over the last ten years. We 386 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: had leadership in Portland that made the decision to defund police. 387 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: We were ground zero for treating police like criminals and 388 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: our criminals like victims. That's Oregon. That's really hard. Left 389 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: progressive Democrats that have not have not taken Oregonians into 390 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: consideration when they've been pushing a political agenda. We all 391 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: feel it. So, you know, two hundred and seven percent 392 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: increase in homicides happens when you abandon the intervention teams 393 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: that were in there in those communities making sure that 394 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: gun violence wasn't happening. And when story did you say, 395 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: a two h two hundred and seven percent increase in 396 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: homicide in two years in the city of Portland, and 397 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: you saw the beautiful city that Portland has been for 398 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: years and years and years and years, that is organ 399 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: is a gem, is brilliant and gorgeous and welcoming, and 400 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: we have resilient, strong, innovative, community oriented you know, folks 401 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: that live here. And then you've got Portland, where Portlanders 402 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: have just basically been abandoned by their own leadership, and 403 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: the Democrats that I'm running against have doubled down on 404 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: that same agenda. You know, they have pushed to reduce 405 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: funding for cops. The budgets that they've passed in Salem 406 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: haven't fully fund a police. The efforts that they've taken 407 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 1: in Salem have abandoned our ability to stand with and 408 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: protect victims. That's what I'm running against right now, are 409 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: folks that actually are continuing to pursue policies that have 410 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: already proven to hurt communities and families across our state. 411 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: We're talking to Christine Dreysen. She is running for governor 412 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: of Oregon. Appreciate many of you listening on our Portland 413 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: Oregan affiliate k ex AM who know exactly of which 414 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: you are speaking. You're also a mom of three, and 415 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: last year, certainly we saw Glenn Young can flip the 416 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: state of Virginia to a large extent based on moms 417 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: who were angry. I've got married to a mom of 418 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: three here in my house. I hear from a lot 419 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: of these moms who have been furious about what's going 420 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: on in the schools, about the fact that schools were closed. 421 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: I know an Oregon a lot people with public school 422 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: kids have been furious over the way that the governor 423 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: they're handled COVID and keeping schools open. What are you 424 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: hearing from moms and also dads out there about what 425 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: they feel associated with schools and the way that their 426 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: kids are being treated there. Yeah, families, parents are absolutely 427 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: livid in Oregon, and they should be their students, Their 428 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: kids were abandoned for a political agenda that put a 429 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: higher value on, you know, sort of union negotiations than 430 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: the needs of our students. And instead of doubling down 431 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: and funding interventions in the classroom to help all students 432 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: get back up to standards here in Oregon, they just 433 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: abandoned the standards. They reduced graduation requirements. They actually have 434 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: shifted curriculum inside our schools to begin to add all 435 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: these layers that are really really politically driven. Just to 436 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: give you an example, if you've got a kindergartener here 437 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: in Oregon, that student, some of the curriculum requirements are 438 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: going to have that student as early as kindergarten thinking 439 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: about what is their identity and how do they pursue 440 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: justice and what they really need is to know how 441 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: to wait mind and hold on her pencil and have 442 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: some big motors health. Amen. Amen, Yes, you know we're 443 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: speaking of Christine Brays and everybody. She's running for governor 444 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: of Oregon and it is a very close raised Christine, 445 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: which one of them. We want to really highlight this 446 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: because you are in it. This is not some you know, 447 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: down by twenty or thirty points and it's just trying 448 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: to make some kind of a statement you could be 449 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: the next governor of Oregon. We've got a lot of 450 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: people listening. As Clay mentioned, k e XAM a fantastic 451 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: station with a big audience, big reach, but many other 452 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: stations throughout the state of Oregon too. To the people listening, 453 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: what can they do to help you and how do 454 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: they help bring this thing home so that there's some 455 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: sanity in your state of Oregon. Once again, we have 456 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: to have Oregonians choose to win. They have to be 457 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: the ones to choose a new direction for our state. 458 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we are a toss up race because Oregonians 459 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: have been standing up and pushing back and demanding change. 460 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: I need every Oregonian out there that's looking for change, 461 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't want more of the same, that doesn't want 462 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: another decorative decline to vote. And you know, you can 463 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: find more information on my race for ways to volunteer 464 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: and donate and show up on our days that we're 465 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: knocking on doors and making calls, which is every day 466 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: at Christine for organ dot com. But I need Orgonians 467 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: to believe in change. You know, it's been I know, 468 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, we know this been forty years almost since 469 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: Organs had a Republican governor. You know, the last time 470 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: we had a Republican governor, top Gun, it was in 471 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: the theaters, the Original And I say all the time, 472 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: now it's time for a sequel, right, And that really 473 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: is where we're at in Oregon. Is it's time to 474 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: lead our state in a new direction. And I need 475 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: Oregonians to vote. I need them to show up, and 476 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: I need them to stand with me and demand change. Christine. 477 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a testament to how much of a 478 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: case you've already made. I mean, that's crazy to think 479 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: it's been nineteen eighty six since Oregon had a Republican governor. 480 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: But the Cook Political Report has moved this race into 481 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: the toss up category. You are legitimately a candidate, and 482 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: we talk a lot on this show about saying versus insane. 483 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: You are trying to appeal, regardless of how people have 484 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: voted in the past, to the same people of Oregon 485 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that it's time for change. Yeah, they're just 486 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: asking for some common sense and I'm committed to bringing it. 487 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: And we haven't seen that for far too long in 488 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: our state. You know, for folks that weren't living through 489 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: it with us. We had some of the longest lockdowns 490 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: across the nation were our schools were set down longer 491 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: than California schools. And you know when you talk about 492 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: outrage parents and parents that are just demanding better, that's 493 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: because Organs leaders have been far too political for far 494 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: too long and Oregon and understand, we just want common sense. 495 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Didn't the lunatic governor Kate Brown tell people to snitch 496 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: on anybody who had more than four or six people 497 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: in their home or something like that. Wasn't there a 498 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: period there where private homes in Oregon actually had some 499 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: kind of a cap Oh, Thanksgiving that was that was 500 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving tobaccle. She said, Nope, this isn't even a joke, 501 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: right you feel like this should there should be a 502 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: punchline coming at you right now. But she actually, she 503 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: actually called on Oregonians to limit their Thanksgiving get together 504 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: as among family members to five or less. I believe. Listen, 505 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: tomb there you go five or less more than family 506 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: people I know, and then to call to call people 507 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: just in case you saw more cars out front in 508 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: front of your neighbor's houses. That is absolutely the governor 509 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: of Oregon wanted people to snitch on families that got 510 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: together with more than five people. The whole thing so stupid, 511 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: arbitraryan insane. I just, Christine, anything we can do to help, 512 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: certainly if you are listening to us in or again, 513 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: this would be a monumental message to send to have 514 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: a Republican in the governor's office in Oregon again. We 515 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: know you would do an incredible job, Christine, and let 516 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: us know how we can help coming down the next 517 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: forty nine days. Hey, thank you so much. It's been 518 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: great to talk to you today. Christine for Oregon dot Com. 519 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: Folks is her website. Go check it out. Thanks to 520 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: people like you, the Tunnel to Towers Foundation can deliver 521 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: on its promise to do good and never forget the 522 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: sacrifices of America's greatest heroes. Heroes like Officer Familia, who 523 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: couldn't wait to join the NYPD to protect her community. 524 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: She proudly wore her uniform, but was ambushed and shot 525 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: in the line of duty. She survived by three children, 526 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: including an adult daughter who was twenty at the time 527 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: of the murder. 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We're hoping and asking you to do the same. 536 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: Donate eleven dollars a month to Tunnel the Towers at 537 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: t twot dot org. That's t the number two t 538 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: dot org. Unfortunately, instead of focusing on stabilizing the dollar, 539 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve is drastically raising interest rates far more 540 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: than any other country in the world. Other countries are 541 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: going to be printing a lot of money to help 542 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: businesses and consumers to get through this hard winter, So 543 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: that's going to be a pressure on upward prices. So 544 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: we're in a recession. I don't care what they define 545 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: it as. Maybe we'll get a little blip upward in 546 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: the third quarter, or we're in a downturn, and the 547 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: Fed wants a downturn because the only way it knows 548 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: how to fight inflation is by making people poorer. Steve Forbes, 549 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: guy who knows about things like inflation the economy, kind 550 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: of spent his entire life. He's been talking about this stuff, 551 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: writing about it longer than I've been alive. I don't 552 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: know if it's longer than you've been alive, Clay, but 553 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: the longer than right that he was right on the 554 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: flat tax. By the way, even youngsters like you, I 555 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: understand that's the Oh yeah, no. Look, he's a very 556 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: insightful guy. And what he's saying here, what do we 557 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: get the we're getting The Fed rate increase is supposed 558 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: to happen tomorrow, right, so tomorrow you're gonna see the 559 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: FED rate increase coming out, which is going to mean 560 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: that for anybody thinking about buying a home a whole 561 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: lot more expensive, anybody who's gonna have to run up 562 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: debts on their credit card a whole lot more expensive. 563 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: All this stuff is going to be contracting the economy. 564 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: He gonna be making things harder. And as he says, 565 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: the only way the Fed knows how to fight inflation 566 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: is to make people poorer, which is not usually how 567 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: this is phrased. But you did here even a few 568 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: months ago, Clay, some people pointing out that really, you know, 569 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: there is a mentality. Nobody wants to say this, but 570 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: to actually clear out what's happened here, to sort of 571 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: deal with this. It's almost like when you know, a 572 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: forest fire happens and then you're able to have the 573 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: deadwood is gone and the new stuff can grow. A 574 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: recession based upon these cycles of Fed intervention and all 575 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: this other stuff, people have been saying, we kind of 576 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: need a recession. No one wants to say it that way, 577 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: but that's actually the only way this eventually resets. Yeah, 578 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: and look, I am first of all, I'm great, was 579 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: Christine Drayson, And yesterday we had Tiffany Smiley, a person 580 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: in Oregon that thinks about anything reasonably and doesn't say, 581 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: let's at least give her a shot over lunatic Kate Brown. 582 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: Just think about where we were that the governor, the 583 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: Democrat governor of Oregon was asking people to call the 584 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: police over whether too many people were coming over for 585 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner. And you're going to support that party. I'm sorry, 586 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: and I don't even mean in the context of part 587 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: in ship. This is why a lot of times I 588 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: like to focus on sane versus insane. They haven't had 589 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: a Republican governor since she said top gun was out 590 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: buck the first one, not the one right now, nineteen 591 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: eighty six. How would you not give her a chance? 592 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: When the murder rate is skyrocketing like it is in Portland, 593 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: and everything is going wrong in that state in general, 594 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: and look, Oregan's a beautiful place. It shouldn't be a 595 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: dumpster fire. That's what Democrat policies have done at a minimum. 596 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: How would you not give her a chance? I mean, honestly, like, 597 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: for four years a mom of three, I think she 598 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: could probably do a better job. Democrats at some level 599 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: rely on a delusion Shore, but also a degree of 600 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: stubbornness from their refusal to accept that maybe they had 601 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: made a bad decision in the past, because to change, 602 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, who you're voting for, would be the acceptance. 603 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I sit here now and I'm like, look, 604 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: they're They're a Republican who have been very disappointing. There 605 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: are Republicans who I think people should be critical of 606 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: at different times. But if you're looking at Kate Brown 607 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: versus Christine Drayson, how could you not say this is 608 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: worth a shot? You know that that's the part of 609 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: what what is the mentality there? Exactly? But the the 610 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: the only thing that Brown has going for really is 611 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: at least she didn't go downtown during the BLM riots 612 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: in Portland and pretend to be a good friend of 613 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: the activists as in Antifa lunatics and have the Antifa 614 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: lunatics start shouting curses at the person, as they did 615 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: with the mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler. Do you remember 616 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: that one of the great, one of the weakest, most 617 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: weasily just like, yeah, Antifa, I'm here because they stand 618 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: with you. They were like, I can't say what they 619 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: were saying. They were just cursing him out to his face. 620 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: It was amazing. He's so deserved, it's deserved. It total. 621 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: I can't even say what the words I want to 622 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: describe what a total pussy Willow moved by him to 623 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: do in the first place. I mean, just utterly ridiculous. 624 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: You've got to get out. We had Tiffany Smiley yesterday 625 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: was fantastic in Washington. She's got a chance to beat 626 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: Patty Murray. Kate Brown is I think term limited out. 627 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: So this is an open seat in Oregon. And you 628 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: just heard from Christine Drayson, and imagine the message that 629 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: gets sent if Oregon voters rise to sanity and put 630 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: her in office. It would be phenomenal to see. We're 631 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: gonna be speaking of a major race. We've got doctor 632 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: Oz with us in the next hour and what exactly 633 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: is going on there the momentum all with Oz against Federman, 634 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: will talk about where we are headed forty nine days out. 635 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you.