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Speaker 1: M Hey everybody, it's me your old friend Josh. And

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Speaker 1: for this week's s Y s K SELEC, since we're

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Speaker 1: nearing Halloween, I chose a wonderful little episode from two

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Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen called How Haunted House Attractions Work full disclosure.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking that this one's going to be boring,

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Speaker 1: but to my surprise, it was not. So I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy it as much as I surprisingly did. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, and Jerry

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Speaker 1: and this is Stuff you Should Know. The pre Halloween

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Speaker 1: Spooktacular week of uh dark content. Although this isn't super dark. No,

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Speaker 1: this isn't you know about attractions haunted attractions? Right, I'm dark?

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Speaker 1: Although thank I don't want to spoil it, but there

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Speaker 1: are some darkness. Now, is it dark or not? It's dark,

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Speaker 1: but not all of them, just just the really creepy ones.

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Speaker 1: So it's made mid level dark. What a train wreck

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Speaker 1: this is. So for those of you who tuned in

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Speaker 1: thinking that we're talking about haunted houses, sorry to let

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Speaker 1: you down real haunted houses, uh, of which there may

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Speaker 1: or may not be a thing. All the skeptics were like, shoot,

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Speaker 1: this I wanted to ye, this is just about attractions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these things are proven to exist. They are real because

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Speaker 1: you can probably if you live near any kind of

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Speaker 1: major metropolitan area, you can probably find one somewhere in

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Speaker 1: your town. I think you can find them almost anywhere.

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Speaker 1: If you live in a major metropolitan area, that maybe

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Speaker 1: if it's the local uh if it's for charity and

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Speaker 1: and it's uh it up in like a school gymnasium,

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Speaker 1: or there's enthusiasts home haunters, um, and they will they

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Speaker 1: basically set up a haunted house in their backyard. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's some documentary about two guys that are I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they do haunted houses or just take their

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Speaker 1: Halloween um decorating two extremes. Well, I think that's one

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Speaker 1: and the same for a home haunter. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they're they're competing guys though in the same street that uh,

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Speaker 1: ramping it up and ramping it up, have become obsessed

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Speaker 1: without doing one another. But I don't know what's called,

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Speaker 1: so it just came to me right now. Me either,

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Speaker 1: But um, you do make a good point how haunted

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Speaker 1: houses are everywhere. Apparently in two thousand fourteen, they expect

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Speaker 1: they being the American Retail Federation who likes to put

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Speaker 1: out statistics and figures about holidays, um, they expect thirty

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Speaker 1: three million people to go into haunted houses across the

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Speaker 1: United States. Yeah, about four thousand of them of which

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Speaker 1: are the pay some money to go in professionally. Uh,

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Speaker 1: about three in theme parks like you know, like amusement parks.

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Speaker 1: And then about three thousand of them are the charity

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Speaker 1: ones that I spoke of, right, which you'll still pay.

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Speaker 1: But they they're not They're not going to the fat

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Speaker 1: to you know, your local community organization. Yeah, and those

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Speaker 1: it's not like these, um, the really super scary ones

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Speaker 1: one more, um, little bit of of data statistics if

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Speaker 1: you know mine some numbers talk about roll reverse. Remember

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Speaker 1: you used to be static, guy, I know, I got

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Speaker 1: so bored it. Um. In two thousand and fourteen, again,

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Speaker 1: the National Retail Federation expects Americans to spend eighty seven

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Speaker 1: behind Christmas. People love getting their scare on, they really do.

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Speaker 1: so it just seems kind of pointless. Oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: people that drive by during the month of October, like,

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Speaker 1: All right? So, um, let's talk the history of this,

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Speaker 1: because it turns out that haunted house attractions are relatively new,

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Speaker 1: Greeks and Romans um uh kind of paved the way

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Speaker 1: theater when you come down to it. It's just like

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Speaker 1: uh basically a scare show. Yeah, these little plays that

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Speaker 1: the Renaissance, Shakespeare was famous for um incorporating like demons

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Speaker 1: It was something that definitely laid the groundwork for haunted

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Speaker 1: hearts of all. Uh. John Pepper invented something, um pretty

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Speaker 1: the Collector's Weekly article, it's an interview with the guy

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Speaker 1: like if you went to some rinky dink amusement park

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Speaker 1: that was an interesting point that I definitely wasn't aware of. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The first official recorded haunted attraction according to this person

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Speaker 1: that Orton and Spooner, the Orton and Spooner ghost House

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Speaker 1: to which you've already mentioned, the Haunted Mansion that that

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Speaker 1: I was going for. That's good. You can be spending

423
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: up to a grand just in decorations and scares and tricks. Yeah,

424
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: and you may be able to reuse a lot of

425
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: that from year to year, but you probably shouldn't put

426
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: out the same thing every year because if you're in

427
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: the same space doing the same thing, you're not going

428
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: to get repeat customers. So you want to turn over

429
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: like that each year it's a new stuff. And like

430
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: you said, themes often change, So just changing the theme

431
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: alone is going to require that you change this this, um, well,

432
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: your layout, I guess to an extent. Yeah, Like, if

433
00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: you're doing scary clowns, you're probably gonna have to get

434
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: rid of your O R setting or whatever, unless you

435
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: do a clown doing surgery, which is kind of scary,

436
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: but it just seems a little off. Yeah, you clown

437
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: doing surgery, that's just um, that'd be pretty scary. The

438
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: clown hospital, Yeah, yeah, well don't they have that children's

439
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: hospital has a clown character? That's what I'm thinking, Rob Cordrey, Yeah, sure. Um.

440
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is written by Kristen Konger

441
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: from Stuff Mom Never Told You, and she actually interviewed

442
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: a few owners of haunted houses to get some good

443
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: inside poop and um, that's where we're like getting these

444
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: numbers and they say to open one up. I was

445
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: just making mine, not oh you are, Um, they said

446
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: to open one up. You're not only obviously it's it's

447
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: a fun job, but you've got to have a lot

448
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: of business acumen too. It's not just like, oh, this

449
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: will be a hoot, Like you've got to be super

450
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: focused and have a good business brain or you're not

451
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna make any money. Plus also, um, safety is a big,

452
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: big deal, especially after a fateful of four. At six

453
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: Flags Great Adventure in New Jersey, there was they had

454
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: a seventeen trailer interconnected modular haunted house dark ride basically

455
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: but a walking dark ride. So it's a haunted house. Um.

456
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: And it was basically a fire trap and it went

457
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: up and eight teenagers got trapped inside and died in

458
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: the fire. There were no fire sprinklers, there were no obvious, um,

459
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: emergency exit signs or anything like that. And um, that's

460
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: what happened back then. Yeah, but you'd think like by

461
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: the time the eighties rolled around, people would have figured out, oh,

462
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: if somebody likes a match in here or doesn't put

463
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: their cigarette out, because again it's the eighties, so people

464
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: smoked everywhere. The whole thing's gonna go up because it's

465
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: all plywood and foam, and maybe we should put fire

466
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: sprinklers in. But apparently it took this tragedy to really

467
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: change the industry, but it did. Yeah, and safety is,

468
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: like you said, a huge, huge part of it. Because

469
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: you're in the dark. You've got things flying out and

470
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: props swooping down and people jumping out and uh, I mean,

471
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: anything can happen to go wrong and someone can get injured.

472
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, And actually, did you hear about the girl

473
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: In two thousand eleven, there was an employee at one

474
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: of the ones outside of St. Louis called Creepy World,

475
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: And um, she worked there and somehow got caught in

476
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: a noose and accidentally hung herself. That sounds like a

477
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: story that you hear, you would think, so it is

478
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: so well documented that it actually did happen. I'm quite sure.

479
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: But she survived. Oh Um, she suffered some brain damage

480
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: to it to an extent from what I understand. Um,

481
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was extensive or not. I'm

482
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: on a roller coaster of emotion, right, but she, I mean,

483
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: she did survive, but she she accidentally got caught in

484
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: the noose and hung herself, and it's possible some patrons

485
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: passed her by thinking that. She was like, that's what

486
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: was is to be going on. Yeah, I've I've heard

487
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: some story that is not that of someone who hung

488
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: themselves on Halloween and everyone thought it was a just

489
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: a decoration in the front yard. My friend, you need

490
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: to go watch the most recent don't be dumb. Oh

491
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: it comes out this week. Is it about that? Yes?

492
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: Is that an old Well, don't spoil it. Okay, people

493
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: should go watch it. Go watch don't be dumb about that. Man,

494
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: Go and tell him Josh that you know. Um, so

495
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: after you've got your safety system worked out, you've got

496
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: your fire safety, got your sprinkler system, you've got flame

497
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: retardant material, you've got camera set up everywhere, everyone assigned

498
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: a lengthy waiver. Even if they do get hurt. Um,

499
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: they could probably still try and see you, but you're

500
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: trying to avoid that at all costs. What you're gonna

501
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: have is some sort of amaze like structure where you're

502
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: walking around sort of lost but really just getting shuffled

503
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: along a path. And there's, like you said earlier, there's

504
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: this thing called through put. So there's a lot of

505
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: thought put into it because apparently the worst thing you

506
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: can do in a haunted house, and this makes sense,

507
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: is to let the group behind catch up to the

508
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: group ahead. Yeah, that ruins the whole thing, ruins everything

509
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: because you're in a group. It depends, but I don't

510
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: know six or right people. But and you don't want

511
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: the scare that already happened to be apparent to the

512
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: group that hasn't gotten there yet, Like you see the

513
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: chainsaw guy crawling back into his little tree right exactly.

514
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: So UM, this throughput is basically a calculation of how

515
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: many people you can push through at what intervals to say,

516
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 1: meet your nightly ticket quota. So the numbers that Conger

517
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: gives UM is to to get five people through in

518
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: a night. You can put a group of six. You

519
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: can set them out every to thirty seconds, and they

520
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't bump into one another. And then one of the

521
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: ways that that UM employees make sure that these groups

522
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: don't bump into one another is the way that they

523
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: scare people. Yeah, it's called scaring forward, which makes sense,

524
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: it does. It's kind of an interesting, boring term, UM.

525
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: But what they're doing is usually jumping behind you as

526
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: you walk through the group to make you go in

527
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: a forward They don't want to jump out in front

528
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: of you and have you move in that in the

529
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: direction you just came from backward. Yeah, so they want

530
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: to scare you forward, and that is a little tip.

531
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: If you are not into being the the lead person

532
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: being scared, then you should be in the lead because

533
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: it's probably going to come from behind you. It's pretty counterintuitive. Yeah,

534
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: but I think I'm going to be in the back

535
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: and I'll be just fine. Yeah, you're the one that's

536
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: gonna get grabbed because if they jump out at the

537
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: front of the group again, it's going to push the

538
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: group backward and the group ahead is going to run

539
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: into the group behind, and that's very bad. Yeah, and

540
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: I say get grabbed, you probably won't get touched. Now.

541
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: There apparently are some haunted house attractions that do light touching.

542
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: But you're going to be fully informed. That's so crazy.

543
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: He really does light touching. You're gonna be fully informed,

544
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna you're not gonna not know that

545
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: it's coming. Like in line, they're going to be like

546
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: sign this an initial here, an initial here, an initial here,

547
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give you a heart detect test first, Yeah,

548
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: just to make sure please step on this treadmill that

549
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: kind of thing. See, that's how I would really scare

550
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: people to say, you know, none of the actors are

551
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: allowed to touch anyone, so if you're getting touched, I

552
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: mean something has gone horribly wrong. Right, And then have

553
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: people craving, well, well we'll get to in a minute. Um,

554
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: the new extreme ones where there's not only touching, like

555
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: it's beyond anything that you could imagine. But we'll get

556
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: to that soon. Uh. And since we mentioned actors hiding,

557
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: those are called scare pockets, Yeah, where they hide and

558
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: jump out from. Yeah. So like they're hiding behind that tree,

559
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: and they may distract you with a bat swooping down

560
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: in the other direction. There's a lot of distraction going

561
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: on because what they don't want is you to be

562
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: focused on the clearly placed fox tree trunk that has

563
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: the smell of a chainsaw. Yeah, but there won't be

564
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: any blade on that chainsaw, by the way. No. And

565
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: a good actor also will scramble back into place very quickly. Yeah. Um,

566
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Because the longer they hang out and they're like yeah right,

567
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: the more you're gonna be like you're just some teenager, yeah,

568
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: who who doesn't scare me? Yeah, And if you're looking

569
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: to save a little money, you might want to double

570
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: up and have that scare pocket have a couple of

571
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: different ways that it can go, Like I can jump

572
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: out on these people on the right who are in

573
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: this one part of the haunted house, and then I

574
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: can scramble back and then hit these people on the left,

575
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 1: not hit them, jump out and scare them. Um. And

576
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: that way you're saving a little dough with your actors, Yeah,

577
00:32:44,480 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: doubling or tripling your people and then apparently chuck lastly. Um.

578
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: A lot of the attractions are run on compressed air

579
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: that is set off either through motion sensors, which I

580
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: think everybody expects, but also through touch pads, which makes

581
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: sense because you can control that right well with a

582
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: with a motion sensor. Every group is going to set

583
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: off that effect at the right and what it does

584
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: is it opens the valve and all of a sudden,

585
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: the skeleton sits up in the coffin or comes out

586
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: from the side or something right, some weird air exactly right. Um,

587
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: that was a really good impression with a touch pad. Though,

588
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: if you say place the square off to the left

589
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: or something. Not every group is going to walk over

590
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: the touch pad, so not every group is going to

591
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: get the same set of scare, So it kind of

592
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: randomizes the thing, which in turn makes the whole experience

593
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: even more frightening, because if you hear the group ahead

594
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: at the curve scream and scream exactly when you get

595
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: to that curve, you're gonna be prepared. And if nothing happens, well, then,

596
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: my friend, you're just even more keyed up for the

597
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: next one. That's right, Yeah, And you're keyed up to

598
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: begin with walking in there, because a good haunted house

599
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: will put a little bit of money into getting you

600
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: all ramped up in the parking lot in the line.

601
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: They might have creeps dressed up roaming around. Uh. They

602
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: may have sound effects and spooky music and like an

603
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: airhorn blast, which is really uncool, and that's just got

604
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: you on edge. By the time you walk in that place,

605
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: you're ready to be scared. Um. Alright, chuck, Yeah, we've

606
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: teased it enough. Let's talk about extreme haunted houses, which

607
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: apparently are so extreme that people who are haunted house

608
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: enthusiasts like people who are like in the industry, I

609
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: don't even like these things to be called extreme haunted

610
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: houses because they're so extreme. Yeah, that's what I gather,

611
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: and these are to say these are interactive, is uh

612
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: not really putting a fine point on it. They are.

613
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: You're basically paying money to be treated like an assault

614
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: victim for up to seven hours, like you might be

615
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: put in a headlock, you might. Where's the one. There's

616
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: one in San Diego. Yeah. Uh. McCamy. Manner is renowned

617
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: as like the worst of the worst. The video that

618
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I saw it was like you are like covered in blood, dude,

619
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. Put into like a coffin and somebody

620
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: is like in their writhing on top of you in

621
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: the dark, and you're trying to get out and they're

622
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: pulling you back in right and and just like it's insane.

623
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: How intense this thing looks. Yeah, they had a cage

624
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: that locks your head in that they're dropping like fake

625
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: snakes in, which is not as bad as life snakes,

626
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 1: but it's still pretty bad. And apparently the um the

627
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: the catchphrase of everybody who goes through these things is

628
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: let me out of here, that they shout or cry it. Well, yeah,

629
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: but apparently supposedly mckami manner. It's open year round and

630
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: they only take four people a day through this thing,

631
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: but like you said, it's up to seven hours long

632
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: in some cases, right, Yeah, so they'll take in I think,

633
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: just one at a time. You have to come through

634
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: by yourself, and they only do four people a day.

635
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: It's only open on the weekends. And I don't know

636
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: if this is true. Supposedly, the one rule, like you

637
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: have to apply fill out an application to go through

638
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: this thing and be super fit and super psychologically fit

639
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: and um, because you're getting physically like abused in some cases,

640
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: like nothing you can't walk away from. But you know

641
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: they're they're mangling you without hurting you. Well, yeah, and

642
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: they held I saw they held one guy's face in

643
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: front of a toilet and it shot up some noxious

644
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: stuff out of it, like stuff like that. So on

645
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: one hand, it is like physically abusive. On the other

646
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: it's like almost laughable that they like, these people really

647
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: put their minds to it. Yeah, and they came up

648
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: with shooting stuff out of a toilet in your face. Um,

649
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: but supposedly you can't leave this one at all, Like

650
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: there is no safe word. I just don't believe that.

651
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't believe it either, But it's free. The one

652
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: in San Diego is really yeah, it's free. And the

653
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: and that's the one hook is is that you're not

654
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: allowed to leave what you You sign a document that

655
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: says I'm going to go through this thing from beginning

656
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: to end. That's what I say. I would trust me.

657
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: I would get out of that place like I would. Yeah,

658
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: I would bust through a wall or something. That's what

659
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: it took Chuck Murck. But that is McCamy manner, and

660
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: that is was constructed by Russ McCamey, who's a terror fanatic. Uh.

661
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: They also have one in New York and l A

662
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: called Blackout, one called Gates of Hill in Las Vegas.

663
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: And the common denominator or of all these is you're

664
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: getting physically like you don't wear clothes you ever want

665
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: to wear again, because you're gonna fake blood and vomit

666
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: thrown in your face hopefully fake and be physically assaulted.

667
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: I mean they have scenes where you're like where there's

668
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: a rapist after you. Right, it's really dark, so disturbing.

669
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: They with Haunted House enthusiasts who criticize these kind of things.

670
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: It's usually because they say there's no story to it.

671
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: There's very rarely build up. It's all just payoff, off, payoff,

672
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: like all of it. It's just there's no there's no well,

673
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: there's no ratcheting up of tensions. It's like those movies

674
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: that we're talking about. It's the haunted attraction version of Uh.

675
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: I don't even know what there are. I don't watch

676
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: any of them. Like Hostile Okay, I did see that one. Actually,

677
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: what do you think anytime if you're gonna pull out

678
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: that rusty tray of medical instruments, you've lost me. Yeah,

679
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: that is such a trope by now you know you

680
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: know who did do it well was the first couple

681
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: of hell raisers. They used medical instruments to real was

682
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: back in the day disheartening degree effect. Yeah, the ones

683
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: that scare me the most. Again, to delve back into

684
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: movies like did you ever see Wolf Creek and it's

685
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: setting the Australian Outback is like, yeah, it's the kids

686
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: whose car breaks down and all of a sudden, the

687
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: rest of the movie is them getting traced chased by

688
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: this homicidal maniac. Okay, that to me is what's called

689
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: the psychological thriller. Yeah, that's not I mean, yes, I

690
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: understand it is horror Friday thirteenth, that's like Hallmark Corp.

691
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: But it's different. Yeah, the slasher movie is just it's

692
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: just different. I mean there's not enough true, genuine horror

693
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: movies in my opinion, which amount to basically supernatural horror.

694
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: I guess that's how you'd put it. That's what I

695
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: meant too. You should check out Wolf Creek. It's the

696
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: the will. I have no problem with it. It's just

697
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: as far as horror goes. I'm not scared by that.

698
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: I want to be scared. You might be scared. Okay,

699
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: I'll check it out. The the Murderous Guy is a

700
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: really like kind of a great character, and I think

701
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: he falls into the pantheon of classic like Michael Myers characters. Yeah,

702
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: like yeah, one of the good slashers. Um which brings

703
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 1: us to the hell houses, which um, like we said,

704
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: was sort of started back in the dark ages of Christianity. Uh,

705
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: they they do this today. The most famous is in uh,

706
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 1: Cedar Hill, Texas. And there's a documentary called hell House

707
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: on these things. I think from like two thousand to

708
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: camp and uh, the idea of these is run by

709
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: churches usually and they are too just like in the

710
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: old days, scare you into walking the straight and narrow, right,

711
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: And actually they were they were originated by Jerry Folwell

712
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: back in the seventies. Yeah, those are the first ones,

713
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah. And then in the nineties that church

714
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: in Texas you mentioned took over Abundant Life Christian Center, um,

715
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: and they took over and they started actually packaging it.

716
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: They started selling hell houses for like tucks, and it

717
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: was kind of like do you remember those j c's

718
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: in the seventies that came up with the Haunted House package.

719
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: These are the same things, but for hell houses. And

720
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: then there's modules that you can buy that cost additional

721
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: amounts of money, so you can add rooms to it,

722
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: and so like a room you might buy as the

723
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: abortion room. And in the abortion room, UM, you're taught

724
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: how to use raw meat that's like a stand in

725
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: for a fetus that you throw into a glass bowl.

726
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: You've got to make sure it's a glass bowl so

727
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: everybody can see through into it, dude. The quote literally

728
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: from the manual that they distribute on how to run

729
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: these says, quote, purchase a meat product that closely resembles

730
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: pieces of a baby to be placed in a glass bowl,

731
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: so that their suggestion, that's a room from hell house. Yeah,

732
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: and this is to keep you from having premarital sex exactly. Obviously,

733
00:41:54,680 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: subtlety is not a hallmark of the hell House. Um.

734
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: So for example, like if you there was, there's one

735
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: from New Destiny Christian Center. Um, it's called the Rave

736
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: scene and basically it's about um club drugs and death,

737
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: teenage death. Like pretty much everybody dies or takes their

738
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: own life. Um, as a result of of sin, Yes,

739
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: of their sin. Yeah, like the lesbian suicide Room, where uh,

740
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, a young lady succumbs to lesbianism and uh

741
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: is so mistreated and um, she she goes to she's

742
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: she's not a lesbian, she's just saving herself and is

743
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: mistaken for a lesbian confusingly, and then uh it then

744
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: kills herself because her best friend rejects her and calls

745
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: her a lesbian when she went to go hugger. That

746
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: was that was from the Vice article you sent at least. Yeah,

747
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: that's a great article. Um, but it's all repercussions of sins.

748
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: So there's the lesbian suicide room. There is the aide room,

749
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: the abortion room, the domestic violence room, the d u

750
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: I room, and they're all just enacting these horrific scenes

751
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: and until you get finally to Hell is at the end,

752
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: at the very end. Um in Hell is where they're

753
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, displaying what Hell looks like with ghouls and

754
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: demons and uh. And then finally you get to go

755
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: to Heaven. Well, this is what makes the Hell House.

756
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: The Hell House end through these different types of sin

757
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: into Hell, and then when you come out, you emerge

758
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: through Hell and then the real life preachers there, yeah,

759
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: saying hey, how about you repent and for those of

760
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: you who aren't saved, why don't you come on over

761
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: to our church and we'll save you. Yeah, they call it.

762
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: In the Vice article, they call it the it's a

763
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: really cool pastor who jumps out and is the good

764
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: cop to Hell House is bad cop. And he's like,

765
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: you can avoid all this scary stuff if you, uh,

766
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: you know, take the Lord Jesus as your savior. And

767
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: sometimes they'll do that right in the room and have

768
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: you signed something? Oh, I can imagine, and uh, that's

769
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: the Hell House. And in that Vice article, it's crazy. Um,

770
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: the author mentions that a little boy goes off in

771
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: vomits during the hell house, so apparently they're very effective. Well,

772
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: if the object is to make you sick and vomit, yeah,

773
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: I guess so vomit from fear for your soul. And

774
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: they're still around. It seems like something that um might

775
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: have gone by the wayside. But yeah, you can still

776
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: go to hell houses in one of places. I have

777
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: one more thing for you, Chuck what you got. Go

778
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: to BuzzFeed dot com. You may have heard of that website, uh,

779
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: and search for forty four best picks of scared brows

780
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: at Haunted. Yeah. I can't remember where the Haunted House is,

781
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: but it's all the same background, but very much like

782
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: roller coasters. They take a photo of this one spot

783
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: and it's like the scariest spot, and um, the people

784
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: are they're wonderful, hilarious photo and like it's been around.

785
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: I think they first started publishing them in two thousand eleven,

786
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: so they've been around for years and they're still just

787
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: as funny as ever. It's great that the scared face

788
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: is just so pure to me, because it's just pure reaction.

789
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Like the toughest dude in the world, like trying to

790
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: climb over his girlfriend or push her toward whatever he's

791
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: afraid of. Yeah, it's whatever is happening in that two seconds.

792
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: It's pretty great. So that's Haunted House attractions everybody I know. Uh,

793
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: if you want to know more about them, type those

794
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: words in the search bar at how stuff works dot com.

795
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: And since I said that, it's time for listener mail,

796
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this Karate Kid an email Awesome, which

797
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: was the scariest movie I've ever seen. Uh. If you

798
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: listen to Karate episode, we wax philosophical about the Karate

799
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: Kid movie and we got a lot of emails of um,

800
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: people feeling great ways of nostalgia uh and talking about it. Um.

801
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: So here we go. I imagine guys will get dozens

802
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: of versions of this similar email. Uh. Just listened to

803
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: Karate and Uh, I have not finished it yet, but

804
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm writing about the first seven to eight minutes, specifically,

805
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: your ode to the Karate Kid was beautiful. I got

806
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: goose bumps along with Chuck. I may have also had

807
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: a tear in my eye when he described that magical

808
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: moment in the film where it all comes together and

809
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: we realize. Along with Daniel son that Mr Miyagi is

810
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: truly a genius. Um. By the way, Ralph Maccio is

811
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: named his son Daniel after himself. Yeah, I guess so,

812
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: after the best version of himself. I recently sent The

813
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: Karate Kid to my six year old nephew to ensure

814
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: that despite what his friends and media try to tell him,

815
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: he will know that Ralph Maccio is the original and

816
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: only Karate Kid. When I called him and asked what

817
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: his favorite part was, he actually started singing, You're the

818
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: best around, nothing's ever gone and get you down. It

819
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: was the proudest moment of my aunt hood so far. Now, Chuck,

820
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: I implore you to watch The Karate Kid too, after

821
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: all the other films that attempt to be a part

822
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: of the franchise or a travesty to his an in

823
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: credibly good. It is very good. The Peter stera song

824
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: Josh mentioned Glory of Love was my first ever favorite

825
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: song when I was six because of the film is

826
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: a classic, and I think you were missing out. I'll

827
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: watch it. I'll check it out anyways. Thanks for sending

828
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: me to work this morning with an extra bounce in

829
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: my step and a song in my heart. That is

830
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: from Nicole Beal at Jed's barber shop. It's a Lake City, Utah.

831
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Go get her to cut your head. Nice hair, not

832
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: your head. It's doing a terrible job. She's cutting your head.

833
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Nicole. Um. Did you know her friend

834
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: Van Nostrin? Uh, does his band the Bangalore's do a

835
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: cover of your The Best Around? I knew he loved

836
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: that song. I don't know if I knew they actually

837
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: covered It's good. You can go to SoundCloud search Bangalore's

838
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: and You're the Best Around. It's on there. I'm gonna

839
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 1: do that right after this. Uh. If you want to

840
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: let us know that we nailed something, we want to

841
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,920
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