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Speaker 3: That's Mina Harris, a lawyer, Tony Award winning producer, and

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Speaker 4: Mina is one of a kind. She shows us.

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Speaker 3: That no matter how many dreams you have, you can

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Speaker 3: episode of Growing Up. Welcome to Growing Up the Lingo

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Speaker 3: Kids podcast. It encourages kids to dream big and discover

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I just love sunny summer days. I love all the

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Speaker 3: of which, Louise should be.

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Speaker 4: Arriving any minute now.

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Speaker 3: There he is, Hi, Louise Hire, Emily, it's so good

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Speaker 5: You too, bye bus, Thanks for the ride.

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Speaker 4: How is your music summer camp?

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Speaker 5: It was so cool, Emily. I learned how to play

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Speaker 5: But there's still so many weeks of summer left, Emily,

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Speaker 5: and so many other cool camps. Look, I got some flyers.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Louise, that looks more like hundreds of flyers.

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Speaker 5: A couple hundreds. Yeah, check these out. This is the

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Speaker 5: let your drum Out Summer Camp Flyer Oh more drumming fun.

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Speaker 5: This is the iHeart Art summer Camp flyer.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's a painting camp more than a music

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Speaker 5: I also have dancing camp, oh and science camp.

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Speaker 3: And Louise, I see you're excited not only about music

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Speaker 3: I sure, I am, but I think you can only

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Speaker 5: Uh, there's so much to choose from, Emily. I want

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Speaker 3: Oh, Louis, it's okay to have many dreams at once.

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Speaker 5: Really, but don't grown up just do one thing like

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Speaker 3: Well, actually, lots of grown ups do different things throughout

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Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of Andrea Bocelli?

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Speaker 5: Andrea Bocelli? Nope, but I like that name.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he has a cool name, indeed, and he's also

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Speaker 3: But he was something very different before he was a singer. What, Emily,

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Speaker 5: Whoaha, time travel summer adventure. Here we go, Where are

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Speaker 4: Let's go to Italy in the nineteen eighties. Ready, let's go.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, this place is big and has lots of chairs.

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Speaker 2: Are we in a theater Emily.

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Speaker 3: This is actually a courtroom, Luis, But not any courtroom.

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Speaker 3: This is the one in Italy where Andrea Bocelli worked

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Speaker 5: A lawyer courtrooms? What is all that?

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Speaker 3: You see everywhere in the world there are laws. That is,

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Speaker 5: Ah, like when MAXI bites something that he shouldn't and I.

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Speaker 3: So people and lawyers get together in courtrooms like this

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Speaker 3: Well, courtrooms are safe spaces to discuss problems, and it's

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's serious. Reminds me of my parents in what way?

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Speaker 5: Louise well, sometimes mom and Dad want to find out

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Speaker 3: Telling the truth is a big part of what a

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Speaker 3: Andrea Bocelli.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the lawyer who became a singer.

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Speaker 3: Well, he eventually moved from this very court room we're

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Speaker 4: You're ready, super ready?

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Speaker 5: Me? Wow, Emily, is that song coming from that little

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Speaker 3: Yes, Louise, but he's not little, he's just very far away.

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Speaker 3: So that man on the stage is none other than

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Speaker 5: That's Andrea. Wow, how did he become a singer?

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Speaker 4: You see we're in the nineteen nineties now. In this decade, an.

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Speaker 3: Italian rock star named Zuko was looking for singers for

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Speaker 5: That's so cool. Does that mean that I could be

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Speaker 3: And I have another very cool example of a grown

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Speaker 3: Her name is Mina Harris. She's been a lawyer for

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Speaker 5: Cool? And what else does Mina do? You said? She

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Speaker 3: She has written several children's books too. Oh, and not

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Speaker 3: only that, Louise, she also has helped so many people

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Speaker 5: A lot of things. Wait, I don't get it, Emily,

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Speaker 5: What does being a lawyer have to do with writing

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Speaker 3: Oh? That's a good question, Louise. Do you want to

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: And I can choose my next summer camp after that.

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Speaker 4: Oh, of course you can, Louise. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, dear listeners to our Growing Up talking game show. Today,

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Speaker 3: we're diving into the exciting topic of chasing dreams with

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Speaker 3: our incredible guest, lawyer, producer, and author, Mina Harris. Please

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Mina Harris.

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Speaker 1: I am the founder and CEO of Phenomenal Media, and

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Speaker 5: Hi, Mina, and welcome to our show. I hope you're

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Louise, Mina.

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Speaker 5: I'm deciding which summer camp to go to because there

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Speaker 1: I went to this incredible art camp in Oakland, California,

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Speaker 3: That's another one for you, Louise. So you loved drawing

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Speaker 1: I grew up in a really incredible inspiring family of

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Speaker 1: But my mom and aunt were lawyers, and a lot

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Speaker 1: I was reading to my kids like The Night Moon,

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Speaker 5: One day I can be Sir Luis the Night and

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Speaker 5: Wait, what's a producer? Emily?

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Speaker 3: A producer is a person who helps get all the

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Speaker 1: My kids wanted a little play over Christmas with their friends.

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Speaker 5: Because lawyers have to figure out how to help people right,

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Speaker 3: To ask many questions such as did you pack your backpack,

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Speaker 5: Number one, lawyers can only care about winning arguments. Number

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Speaker 5: You got it right, Mina, want to do Number two, Emily, of.

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Speaker 3: Course, here we go, spot the lie and one of

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Speaker 5: Producers are very creative.

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Speaker 2: And the best way possible.

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Speaker 4: Awesome answer, Mina.

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Speaker 3: Number One, writers can create stories about magical world, superheroes

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Speaker 3: Thanks for playing with us today, Mina, talk to you

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Speaker 3: see and by I had too.

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Speaker 4: Much fun, did you, Louise?

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Speaker 5: This was awesome? Emily?

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Speaker 4: That's spot on, Louise.

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Speaker 5: And also that's okay to want to be different things.

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Speaker 3: And you sure can just like Mina, Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 3: Andrea would be so proud of you, and that reminds me.

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Speaker 5: You're right, Emily, Sir Luise the Night is ready to

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Speaker 4: Bring on Louise's backpack. Care for Louise.

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Speaker 3: The production team will drop it right here, one, two, three.

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Speaker 4: Thank you team. Okay, Louise, open up your backpack.

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Speaker 5: So many, so many summer camp flyers. Okay, take it easy, Luise.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so this summer I'll go for the writing camp.

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Speaker 5: I will, Emily. I'll still keep the flyers fill my

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Speaker 3: Thanks for tagging along on this special episode of growing up. Remember,

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Speaker 3: little listener, dream big and always stay curious. Louise, are

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Speaker 3: you ready for more adventure?

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Speaker 5: Wait? There's more?

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