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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's taking chafe, isn't it? Week three starting to

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Speaker 2: get some answers. Who's good, who's really good, who's really not?

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Speaker 3: Gonna figure it out? Good evening, as we.

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Speaker 2: Work our way through Week three in the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: special for you tonight, Kyle Rudolph. We even have some

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Speaker 2: things that I haven't told you about, but I know

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Speaker 2: that you had a special afternoon. You were on the

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Speaker 2: scene for Vikings Chargers and I cannot wait to hear

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Speaker 2: about it and get into some things about this game.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, How are you tonight?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's certainly been an incredible weekend for for me

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Speaker 5: and my family up here a Minnesota. Unfortunately lost a

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Speaker 5: it was really cool for me to get the opportunity

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Speaker 5: have so many great memories from, in front of a

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Speaker 5: family ever since I got here as a rookie, as

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Speaker 5: So ultimate ultimately didn't get the job done today, and

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Speaker 5: we'll certainly get into that here shortly, but nonetheless, it

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Speaker 5: was incredible for us to be there and to see

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Speaker 5: them to know what they mean to us, and just

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Speaker 3: Everyone, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, with what I've seen on social media, I

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Speaker 2: get it a little bit. Could you share with our

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Speaker 2: was happening for you this weekend and what was being celebrated.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was important for me, And you know, ultimately,

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Speaker 5: when I had thought about retiring, I kind of just

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Speaker 5: some Saturday afternoons. Because you know, realistically, there's so many

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Speaker 5: had an amazing career.

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Speaker 4: It was awesome. It's time to move on to what's next.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I was very fortunate that it was a decision that

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Speaker 5: of times, either your body tells you it's time to stop,

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Speaker 5: Tom West is the former one of the former PR

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Speaker 5: guys there, and you really just stayed on me all

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Speaker 5: and ultimately for me, it was more so.

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Speaker 5: As cool as the whole weekend was, starting from the

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Speaker 5: So that's why I ultimately decided to do it, and

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Speaker 5: So it was just a really really cool weekend for

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Speaker 2: Love it man, Well, congratulations. Sounds like an unbelievable weekend.

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Speaker 2: As you said, the Vikings did. Unfortunately for everyone on

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Speaker 3: Have you ever had an idea where you're like.

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Speaker 2: That's a crazy idea that come on, that's crazy, that's

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Speaker 2: just that's not that's not reality. Kind of a wild idea,

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Speaker 3: I wonder if anyone's had that experience.

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Speaker 2: Last week you sat here and said, look, it's not

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Speaker 2: they were like, nope, no thanks, we're fine. Matt Ryan

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Speaker 2: Last week you said, you know, the name they should

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Speaker 2: With that interception at the goal line to send the

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Speaker 2: with every week that goes by, they're going to let this,

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Speaker 2: I don't think this is that crazy of an idea anymore, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: I think that this should happen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, ultimately, when I thought about it last week,

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Speaker 5: And I mean I watched Kirk firsthand today up and

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Speaker 5: So you know, what do you do from a roster standpoint,

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter who that person is, it's still an

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Speaker 5: So you know, ultimately, yeah, it's an incredibly crazy idea,

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Speaker 5: It would give them a lot more draft capital, but

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Speaker 5: You know, as I sat there and watched the game

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Speaker 5: Bet the Chargers feel a whole lot better. And we

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Speaker 5: you know, ultimately, the Chargers defense stepped up big, in

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Speaker 5: and then you got three shots at the end zone

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Speaker 5: with the clock stopped. It's not a scramble. You're not

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Speaker 5: it's second and six or whatever they are. It's second

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Speaker 3: I think you're spot on with the analysis.

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Speaker 2: You're also, by the way, spot on that the Houston

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Speaker 2: eleven and five. Since the Super Bowl era has started

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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty six, only six teams have done it.

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Speaker 3: Only six teams have gone on in three and ended

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Speaker 2: So you're looking at something around the neighborhood of a

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Speaker 2: three percent chance. And so I totally get what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: which is, oh, this is probably not going to happen

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Speaker 2: because it just feels too emotionally heavy. I don't know

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Speaker 2: referring to in this Chargers Vikings game, Chargers up twenty

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Speaker 3: Kyle? Where were they to be.

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Speaker 5: Exact, I'd have to check to be exact, but it was.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is like a lot of times you'll

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Speaker 2: see coaches that go for it mentality, you know, like

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Speaker 2: we're going for two, you know, at the last second,

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Speaker 2: and forget kicking the next two points to tie the game.

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Speaker 2: We're going for two and players will be like, I

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Speaker 2: love it. Our coach had faith in us and he

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Speaker 2: wants to win the game. This feels like the opposite.

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Speaker 2: This is a coach going no defense with with with

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Speaker 2: a minute plus to go, a minute and a half

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Speaker 2: to go and no timeouts.

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Speaker 3: On the other side, I don't think you can stop.

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson from scoring a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of a slap in the face.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny you bring up that example of going

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Speaker 5: for two at the end of the game to just

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Speaker 5: win it instead of tie and go to overtime, and

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Speaker 5: quite honestly, you see that usually when it's an extremely

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Speaker 5: outmatched team, you know, an underdog that hung around and

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Speaker 5: they got the chance to score to tie the game

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Speaker 5: late in the game, and instead of kicking it and

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Speaker 5: going to overtime where you know, ultimately you're the underdog

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Speaker 5: in you're out match, so you figure we might not

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Speaker 5: win an overtime, but we have one chance from the

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Speaker 5: two yard line to score and when the game we're

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Speaker 5: gonna take it. I get that same kind of feeling

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Speaker 5: where there wasn't a whole lot of faith in that defense,

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Speaker 5: which you have Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa, two of

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Speaker 5: the highest defensive payd players in the history of our game.

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Speaker 5: Their whole job is to go get a sack. They

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Speaker 5: were putting pressure on Kirk Cousins the entire game. The

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Speaker 5: whole game, they were getting pressure on Kirk. It's like,

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Speaker 5: kick the ball down there and let the guys that

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Speaker 5: you pay a lot of money to close out the

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Speaker 5: game instead of turning around and handing the ball in

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Speaker 5: the minus twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wild, absolutely wild.

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Speaker 2: Not as wild as the football we're seeing from the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, but wild nonetheless. So we'll get to that

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Speaker 2: here coming up in one minute. But let's welcome in

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Speaker 2: the third member of our team tonight, and that is

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Speaker 2: none other than Steve de Sager. Let's get everybody up

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Speaker 2: to Dan and everything going on.

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Speaker 3: Hello Steve, Hello to you.

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Speaker 8: It's Pittsburgh at Las Vegas. In the opening five minutes,

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Speaker 8: it is scoreless. Now the Raiders, according to AP so

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Speaker 8: far this young ENFL season, are allowing over three and

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Speaker 8: a half points per drive and the Steelers went three

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Speaker 8: and out on the first drive. Meanwhile, the other way

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Speaker 8: Steelers entered the week zero point eight, so We'll see

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Speaker 8: what the Raiders can muster here Josh Jacobs and company

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Speaker 8: on the offense, but it is scoreless.

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Speaker 4: Early.

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Speaker 8: Arizona upset Dallas twenty eight to sixteen, James Connor nearly

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Speaker 8: one hundred yards rushing and to score. Seattle kept Carolina

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Speaker 8: winless thirty seven to twenty seven. Kansas City got a

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Speaker 8: forty one to ten victory over Chicago, and then there

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Speaker 8: was a Miami game final score seventy to twenty against Denver.

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Speaker 8: Rookie running back Devon A. Chane eighteen carries two hundred

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Speaker 8: three yards, and wide receiver Jalen Waddell did not play

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Speaker 8: due to the concussion he took in the illegal hit

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Speaker 8: last game at New England. The Dolphins, according to stat Zinc,

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Speaker 8: the first NFL team since the nineteen fifties to score

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Speaker 8: at least fourteen points in every quarter of a contest.

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Speaker 8: First team since the championship that the Detroit Lions won.

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Speaker 8: That's how long ago. Of course, it's right, it's a

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Speaker 8: separate topic, but Detroy has only won one playoff.

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Speaker 3: Game since nineteen fifty seven.

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Speaker 8: Dolphin's one of the rare teams to have a player

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Speaker 8: score four touchdowns Raheem Moster another score at least three

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Speaker 8: touchdowns a chain. It's just crazy, crazy offensive numbers. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 8: New Orleans and Derek Carr were up seventeen to nothing

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Speaker 8: at Green Bay early fourth quarter, Carr injures his right

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Speaker 8: shoulder on a sack. Green Bay comes back for an

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Speaker 8: eighteen seventeen victory. Saints rookie kicker Blake Groupie from Notre

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Speaker 8: Dame and missed a forty six yard field goal attempt

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Speaker 8: which just over a minute left. The Charger win at

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Speaker 8: Minnesota was twenty eight to twenty four. Austin Eckler running

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Speaker 8: back out again with the spranged ankle. Mike Williams left

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Speaker 8: with a knee injury. Mri Monday Charger safety Derwin James

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Speaker 8: left with a hamstring injury. Keenan Allen eighteen receptions two

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Speaker 8: hundred and fifteen yards in the Charger road win, a

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Speaker 8: road win in overtime for the Colts at Baltimore twenty

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Speaker 8: two to nineteen. Zach Moss got thirty carries for one

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Speaker 8: hundred and twenty two yards. Victories for Cleveland and Houston.

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Speaker 8: For Detroit and New England. Buffalo won at Washington thirty

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Speaker 8: seven to three, NASCAR victory for William Byron at Texas.

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Speaker 8: Bryceon Deshambo took the Livegulf event in Chicago. As for

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Speaker 8: baseball tonight, the Atlanta Braves are playing two after the

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Speaker 8: wet weather in DC. Nationals took the opener three to two,

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Speaker 8: but the Braves are winning the nightcap six to four.

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Speaker 3: In the six.

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Speaker 8: Dodgers, Giants tied two to two in the six one

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Speaker 8: week left in the regular season. Philadelphia had won four

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Speaker 8: games in a row they started because of weather their

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Speaker 8: game later this afternoon. They've just finished off a wi

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Speaker 8: in over the Mets of five to two. Cubs in Miami,

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Speaker 8: each one at home Reds as well. The Cubs lead

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Speaker 8: for the final NL wildcard spot, still one game over Miami,

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Speaker 8: two and a half up on the Reds, and Colorado

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Speaker 8: is out of the college football Top twenty five. The

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Speaker 8: top three stayed the same at AP Georgia, Michigan, Texas,

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Speaker 8: Ohio State moved up to number four, Florida State number five.

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Speaker 4: Now the Pac.

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Speaker 8: Twelve conference has four teams in the top ten for

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Speaker 8: the first time in its history. Just the last couple

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Speaker 8: of weeks it had eight out of the top twenty five,

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Speaker 8: but Colorado's now out. UCLA lost a low scoring game

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Speaker 8: at Utah, yet Bruins are out of the top twenty five.

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Speaker 8: This Saturday on Fox TV noon Eastern Time, number eight

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Speaker 8: USC at Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, I have a feeling that the ratings

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Speaker 2: will be good for that one between USC and Colorado.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to say this out loud, even

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Speaker 2: though because it's along the lines of what you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: Steam you Dub. Tell me if there's been a college

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Speaker 2: football team that's looked like it's just a look, but

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Speaker 2: that's looked better than Washington so far this year.

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Speaker 8: Last night they had a pick six and then a

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Speaker 8: punt return for a score, So they were up fourteen

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Speaker 8: to nothing before the offense took the field. And they

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Speaker 8: have a great quarterback and he hadn't even touched the

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Speaker 8: ball yet and they're up fourteen. Zi crazy.

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Speaker 2: No one's yeah, no one's talking about I mean some people,

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Speaker 2: but no one with with all the other quarterbacking stuff

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Speaker 2: going on in that conference. Yeah, Washington State j Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Pennis Jr. Not getting the love that that he absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I believe.

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Speaker 8: In three weeks the same day that USC plays at

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame is Washington Oregon. If I'm not mistaken looking

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Speaker 8: to some very good Pack twelve matchups.

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Speaker 2: There's some very good stuff, no doubt. All right, great stuff, Steve.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again very soon. We're live in

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Speaker 2: the Tirack dot Com studios. It's alongside Kyle Rudolph Mark

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Speaker 2: Willard here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, Uh, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about Brandon Staley, the Viking situation. There are a

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Speaker 2: few teams where I'm already ready to throw my hands

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Speaker 2: up and just go, what do you what.

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Speaker 3: Do you do? What? What do you do?

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Speaker 2: With the Chicago Bear situation, Kyle, I like, Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: looks like he's going the wrong way.

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Speaker 3: He just does not look comfort on the field. I

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Speaker 3: can't think that it's just him.

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Speaker 2: There's something in the marriage between him and that coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's one side's fault. I don't think

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Speaker 2: anybody with that franchise is doing a good job. And

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Speaker 2: I know that what they had today was among the

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Speaker 2: toughest things to do in the NFL, which is go

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Speaker 2: to Arrowhead and play Patrick Mahomes. But good grief, if

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Speaker 2: you watch it, if you just if you watch it,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh man, it's so inept, it's so disconnected

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Speaker 2: everything out there. It just feels like the heart of

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Speaker 2: they're trying the further away they're getting well.

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is there's zero indication of improvement.

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Speaker 5: They haven't built on any of the success that they

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Speaker 5: had last year with Justin under center. You watch them

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Speaker 5: play and you know it's either I've said this the

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Speaker 5: first two weeks, it's either a handoff to the running

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Speaker 5: back or drop back pass. Like, we're not doing any

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Speaker 5: of these things that Justin excels at to make him

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Speaker 5: comfortable throughout the course of the game. You know, some

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Speaker 5: of the best play callers that I was ever around.

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Speaker 5: You go through the first fifteen the night before the game,

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Speaker 5: and you see plays, oh, easy completion, easy completion, quick

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Speaker 5: game keeper, get him out of the pocket, move him around,

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Speaker 5: and then you go out and all of a sudden, boom,

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Speaker 5: he's four of six on the first drive, and he's

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Speaker 5: got a feel for the game, and just as he

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Speaker 5: said in his press conference, he can play like himself.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have to be robotic. He's not thinking, he's

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Speaker 5: not trying to process too much information. And you know,

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Speaker 5: so for me personally, I have a connection to this staff.

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Speaker 5: The quarterback coach was one of my position coaches a

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Speaker 5: few years ago, a guy named Andrew Genoko, who I

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Speaker 5: just think is a phenomenal football coach. I actually had

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Speaker 5: my best statistical year in the NFL the year that

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Speaker 5: he was my position coach, and I I will in

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Speaker 5: large part give him the credit for the way that

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Speaker 5: he prepared me that year, you know, each and every week,

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Speaker 5: helping me so that I could go out there and

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Speaker 5: be comfortable. So when when I watch Justin's press conference

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Speaker 5: and I'm hearing about you know, the coaching and the

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Speaker 5: you know, the too many voices in my head letting

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Speaker 5: me play, you know, I ultimately have to feel like

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Speaker 5: it's this three party system with like, what's the offensive

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Speaker 5: coordinator saying? Who's not in the quarterback meetings? You know,

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Speaker 5: what is he coaching when they're in the offensive room?

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Speaker 5: You know, maybe what's the head coach saying? What does

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Speaker 5: the head coach want this to look like? And you know,

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Speaker 5: so for me personally, I would love to see Andrew

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Speaker 5: Andrew Genoko's fingerprints on this a little more. I know

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Speaker 5: what he's done for me personally. I saw success that

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Speaker 5: he had he was Kirk Cousins quarterback coach before he

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Speaker 5: went to Chicago last year, and Kirk had phenomenal years

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Speaker 5: under him as well. So I know Andrew as a coach,

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Speaker 5: I know him as a teacher. He's also a guy

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Speaker 5: that you know, he played college ball. He's a football

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Speaker 5: guy like he can relate to younger guys. You know,

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Speaker 5: we were both twenty six years old the year that

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Speaker 5: he was my position coach, and I never felt more

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Speaker 5: comfortable in that room day in and day out, because

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Speaker 5: you know, I felt like I was just around a

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Speaker 5: peer who had my best interest at mine, and that's

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Speaker 5: oftentimes not the case with coaching players. So you know,

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Speaker 5: like I said, that's the biggest thing that frustrates me

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Speaker 5: is there's there's no indication of what's our identity.

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Speaker 4: Going to be, what are we improving on?

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Speaker 5: You come out, you know, fro from thirty whatever down

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Speaker 5: at halftime thirty five thirty four zip, and we don't

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Speaker 5: do anything to start the second half. I think they

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Speaker 5: turned the ball over right away, and it's like, what

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Speaker 5: did you just go in and talk about at halftime?

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Speaker 5: Are we gonna do anything to make this young quarterback

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Speaker 5: have some sense of comfort and build confidence throughout the

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Speaker 5: course of drives, throughout the course of games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really, really bad look. And you know

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Speaker 2: how I feel. I've stated a lot about year three

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Speaker 2: for a quarterback in a system, and that's Trevor Lawrence,

653
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Speaker 2: it's Zach Wilson, it was Trey Lance who got traded.

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Speaker 3: It's Mac Jones, and it's just in fields.

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Speaker 2: And while you'll hear people say, well, hold on a second, right, like,

656
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Speaker 2: let the guy grow and let's see what he can

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Speaker 2: do with this coach and with these position players around

658
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Speaker 2: him and in this system. You'll hear that, and then

659
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Speaker 2: other players pop into the league and just blow up

660
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Speaker 2: all of those ideas. And someone is doing that right

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Speaker 2: now in the league. Who will talk about coming up

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Speaker 2: next along with Kyle Rudolph on Mark Willard on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Okay, we're live ty Rak dot com Studios,

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Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph Raiders on the board first, they

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Speaker 2: go forward on fourth, an inch is Jimmy g up

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Speaker 2: over the top to DeVante Adams and Vegas is on

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Speaker 2: the board first against the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep you up to date on that. Look.

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Speaker 2: I'm fully aware there are different situations. Kyle right, the quarterbacking,

670
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Speaker 2: all positions, everything in life for that matter, is at

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Speaker 2: least affected by what is around you. You need good people,

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Speaker 2: you need good coaching, you need just you need stuff.

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Speaker 3: You need stuff to help.

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Speaker 2: You do whatever you're doing, whatever you're doing, so that

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Speaker 2: can go both ways. I do think you could be

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Speaker 2: a good quarterback stuck in a bad spot, or maybe

677
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Speaker 2: you're a quarterback who's helped by what's around you. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure yet if that's what's happening. But when I

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Speaker 2: look at the Zach Wilsons of the world, the Trey Lances,

680
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Speaker 2: and now the Justin Fields quite frankly even mac Jones

681
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Speaker 2: as well, that offense feels very, very limited. When I

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Speaker 2: look at those guys who are going into year three

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Speaker 2: and I think that it's like, if it hasn't worked

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Speaker 2: by then, then something's wrong.

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Speaker 3: And when people go.

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Speaker 2: Hold on slow your role, don't be thinking about the

687
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Speaker 2: word bust yet, like we're not there yet. It's very

688
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: early in their career. And then poof CJ. Stroud walks

689
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Speaker 2: into the league and goes watch this. I haven't been

690
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Speaker 2: playing for three years. I've been playing for three games

691
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Speaker 2: and made history. With over nine hundred yards through the

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Speaker 2: air and this guy has yet to throw an interception,

693
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Speaker 2: goes into Jacksonville today, blows out the Jaguars. To me,

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Speaker 2: it kind of dispels this idea that that you can't

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Speaker 2: sort of see it right away when when when someone

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Speaker 2: just has that it quality.

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Speaker 5: No, I definitely think you can see it right away

698
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Speaker 5: when when someone has that it factor.

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Speaker 4: And you know, CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud certainly has played really really good, consistent football through

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Speaker 5: the first three weeks. You know, they got their first

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Speaker 5: win to show for it today. Felt like he played

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Speaker 5: really solid the last two weeks, not ultimately getting wins,

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Speaker 5: but goes down there in Jacksonville gets the win today,

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Speaker 5: And I think again it's you have to look situation

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Speaker 5: by situation. And you know, do I feel like, can

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Speaker 5: you label a player a bust if they're not reaching

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Speaker 5: their potential by year three?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think that's fair. I don't think that.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's wave the white flag, you know, the

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Speaker 5: sky's a bust.

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Speaker 4: We got to move on.

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Speaker 5: But there has to be you know, we just talked

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Speaker 5: about this a lot with justin Fields. You have to

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Speaker 5: have indication of improvement. We have to see things going

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Speaker 5: in the right way. If that third year quarterback is

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Speaker 5: still making the same mistakes and doing the same things

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Speaker 5: that they were doing in year one or year two

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Speaker 5: that have gotten their team's beat or put them in

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Speaker 5: situations to not have success to turn the football over. Ultimately,

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Speaker 5: then it's like, okay, now we might have, as we

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Speaker 5: label it, a bust on our hands, because yeah, as

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Speaker 5: he had the time to fully grow and develop.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not.

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Speaker 5: You know, I do think you can give a guy

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Speaker 5: more than three years. But it's like, are we progressing

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Speaker 5: in the right direction or are we seeing the same

728
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 5: thing time in and time out? And then ultimately you say, look, yep,

729
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Speaker 5: it's time to move on, which, as we know, the

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Speaker 5: forty nine Ers did and it's working out for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just to keep people up to date, and Steve

733
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Speaker 2: will have more on this in about seven or eight minutes.

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Speaker 2: But Kenny Pickett long play seventy two yards to Calvin

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Speaker 2: austin the third and just like that, the Steelers have

736
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Speaker 2: even things back up in Vegas and Sunday night football

737
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Speaker 2: it's seven to seven.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I really don't like using the word bust until things

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Speaker 2: quite frankly are over.

741
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like late that.

742
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Speaker 2: It's like to me, that's like JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf,

743
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Speaker 2: like it's over.

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Speaker 3: The career is over and we can go. That was

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Speaker 3: a bust.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where these young guys careers are are

747
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Speaker 2: going to go, so I won't use that word yet,

748
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Speaker 2: but I am comfortable with predictions in sports media, and

749
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Speaker 2: I made that prediction last week that the Trevor Lawrence

750
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Speaker 2: is going to be the only one of the five

751
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: that gets a big second contract. I don't like where

752
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: that's going. But this is more about CJ. Stroud and

753
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Speaker 2: the way that he started his career, and it looks

754
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Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic. The record, by the way, first player in

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Speaker 2: NFL history after three games in his first three games

756
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Speaker 2: to have nine hundred yards, at least four touchdown passes,

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Speaker 2: and zero interceptions.

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Speaker 3: So really really good stuff there.

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Speaker 2: All right, there's another team who has shown itself already

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Speaker 2: this year to be a major concern.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fresh off of his own retirement celebration in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph this evening here on Fox Sports Radio Minnesota

768
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Speaker 2: was unable to put a victory on top.

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Speaker 3: But all in all, Wow, I would say this, this

770
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: was a very good day to be a tight end.

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Speaker 3: It's a very very good.

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Speaker 2: Day across NFL circles to be a tight end. Some

773
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Speaker 2: of you had celebrations in your honor, others had Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift show up in your with your family. Not bad,

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Speaker 2: Not a bad day to be a tight end, mister Rudolph.

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Speaker 5: Not a bad day at all. You know, we got

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Speaker 5: National tight End coming usually in October, but it certainly

778
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Speaker 5: looked like Week three was National tight End Day for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad it's all out in the open, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean everyone thought the internet would break. I don't

781
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Speaker 2: know about yours. Minus still working fine. But finally we

782
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Speaker 2: can stop dealing with the izzy and is she and

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Speaker 2: this and that and if what and yet no, yes

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Speaker 2: they are, they're dating. And Taylor Swift was at the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs game today. Although I will say this, as we

786
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: were sitting there talking about the Bears a few minutes ago,

787
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Speaker 2: is there any larger in dt of a team in

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Speaker 2: that Fox left its national number one game with its

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Speaker 2: top broadcast team.

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Speaker 3: It left that game with Taylor Swift in the in

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Speaker 3: the stands.

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Speaker 2: It left that game to go to Arizona for a

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Speaker 2: Cardinals football game. I understand the Cowboys were there, but

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Speaker 2: I think it's a perfect end to maybe the worst

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Speaker 2: week I've ever seen a football team have in what

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Speaker 2: happened with the.

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Speaker 3: Bears this week.

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Speaker 5: Definitely a tough week there, and you know, certainly I

799
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Speaker 5: thought it was incredible listening to Patrick Mahomes press conference

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Speaker 5: after the game saying that he actually felt pressure to

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Speaker 5: get Trev a touchdown today to please all the Swifties

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Speaker 5: out there in the world. So, you know, we had

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Speaker 5: talked about that Chiefs offense a little bit last week

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Speaker 5: and saying, you know, are you worried does Travis Kelce

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Speaker 5: really make that big of a difference. You know, they

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Speaker 5: seem to always figure it out, and it's like when

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Speaker 5: things are going bad for you, things just seemed to

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Speaker 5: go worse. And here are the Chicago Bears trying to

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Speaker 5: figure out, how do we win football games? Can we

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Speaker 5: improve our offense, can we start playing a little bit

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Speaker 5: of defense? We paid all these free agents on the

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Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball, and we have to go

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Speaker 5: play the Kansas City Chiefs who are trying to figure

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Speaker 5: it out in their own right and they have forty

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Speaker 5: one on you. So definitely a tough week to be

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Speaker 5: a Chicago Bear.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad you brought up Patrick mahomes press conference

818
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Speaker 2: and his Taylor swift comments because we have those and

819
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Speaker 2: here they are.

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Speaker 3: Take a listen.

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Speaker 6: Do you realize how much pressure there was on you

822
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Speaker 6: today from the Swifties to get Travis Kelce a touchdown

823
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Speaker 6: with Taylor in the house today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that.

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Speaker 4: I heard she was in the house.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel it?

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Speaker 4: Did you feel the pressure? Patrick?

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Speaker 7: I thought a little bit of pressure, and so I

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Speaker 7: knew how to get it to Trev And of course

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Speaker 7: it was on a route that Travis he does his

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Speaker 7: own thing and just makes up a round and not

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Speaker 7: throw it to him. So I think he wanted to

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Speaker 7: get in the end up just as much as all

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Speaker 7: the Swifties wanted them to.

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Speaker 2: There it is Patrick Mahomes and somewhere in there again,

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Speaker 2: I get it like there was no other way to

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Speaker 2: answer that. But if you're a Bears, defensive player. After

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Speaker 2: the week you've had, How do you like this? On

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Speaker 2: your way out of Arrowhead Stadium? The Chiefs not like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: schematically we're trying to beat the Bears, Like, no, we're

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Speaker 2: looking for Trav because the Swifties are here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because we had to please the Swifties and the

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Speaker 5: pressure that they were under to get Trap a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: But I will say, like watching the play, it's one

845
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Speaker 5: of my all time favorite low red zone plays, especially

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Speaker 5: when you have a tight end like Trav that can

847
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Speaker 5: go up and catch the ball but also has this

848
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Speaker 5: savviness of a route runner. So absolutely love the play call.

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Speaker 5: It's an Andy Reid staple I was fortunate to have

850
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Speaker 5: in my offense for a long time as Pat Shermer

851
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Speaker 5: came over from that Andy Reid tree, and it's just

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Speaker 5: it was one of my all time favorite low red

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Speaker 5: zone calls. So certainly when I it was like almost

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Speaker 5: your go to It's like, Okay, if we have to

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Speaker 5: get Trevi a touchdown, what player are we going to call?

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Speaker 5: And you know, it works out really well when you

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Speaker 5: have Patrick Mahomes sitting back there and has all the

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Speaker 5: confidence in the world that you know he said it

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Speaker 5: I'm not really sure what Trav's going to do, but

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Speaker 5: I know he's going to get open, and you know,

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Speaker 5: he delivers the ball to him in the back half

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Speaker 5: of the end zone for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I will say this though, Kyle, I actually have good

864
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: news for Bears fans and that I don't think that

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Speaker 2: you are the most demoralized team in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 2: There's one that I think, if you really look at it,

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Speaker 2: deeper has got your beat. More on that in a second.

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Speaker 3: They gave up seventy points. Kyle.

877
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 5: I'm say I know you were going with that, and

878
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 5: there's also good news for both the Bears and the

879
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 5: Broncos coming out of this week yes, yeah, no where

880
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 5: we're going forty one one gave up seventy. But they

881
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 5: play each other next week.

882
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: So's gonna win.

883
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 5: The Broncos and the Bears will battle it out. Someone

884
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 5: will get their first win next week and hopefully build

885
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: some sort of confidence heading out of the first quarter

886
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 5: of the season.

887
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, except for no matter what happens next week, And

888
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: my friend, the Bears are still employing a quarterback on

889
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: a rookie deal, and the Broncos are paying well over

890
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: two hundred million guaranteed dollars to a guy who just

891
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: does not look like he's got the juice anymore. And

892
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: and it's it's subtle some of the time, Like there

893
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: were games last year where Russell Wilson was like, I've

894
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: never scratched my head harder with it with a future

895
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player, and like what happened like decision

896
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: making stuff, not physical stuff, and it was really really

897
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: odd and confusing to me. And then there was the

898
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: offseason hope of hey, get healthy, Sean Payton is here,

899
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: super Bowl winning offensive mind as the head coach. This

900
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: is going to fix Russ And it's been more subtle.

901
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 3: He threw for three hundred yards.

902
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: It wasn't like he's out there throwing picks right and left.

903
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: But I can tell you, man, I watched the game

904
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: and it's just it's off. It's a step slow. The

905
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: accuracy and the timing still aren't there, and they're owing

906
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: three and that contract is not going anywhere any time soon.

907
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: And you know, what on earth do you do if

908
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 2: you're the Denver Broncos. The Browns might be facing something

909
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: like this as well, but not a great day for

910
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: it because Deshaun probably had his best day as a Brown.

911
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: But man, the Broncos look to.

912
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: Be the most stuck team in the NFL right now.

913
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: Well, and to me, I just think about the amount

914
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 5: of time that Sean Payton and Drew Brees spent together

915
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 5: over all the years that they were quarterback, head coach,

916
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: play caller. And you go to you know, first, you

917
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 5: take a year off, you're in the media. Then you

918
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: go to a team you inherit a quarterback on a

919
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 5: massive contract who didn't play as well as the organization

920
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 5: would have liked, as he personally would have liked, and

921
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 5: you're tasked with fixing him. You need to get him

922
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 5: back to this Hall of Fame level quarterback that we

923
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 5: had seen for so many years in Seattle and it's

924
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 5: Broncos fans aren't going to want to hear this. I

925
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 5: know certainly George Payton, the GM in Denver's not going

926
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: to want to hear this. But you know, how much

927
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 5: of a catchup is there? Like, how can Russell just

928
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 5: be expected to say, Hey, I want you to know

929
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 5: all these things that Drew new from fifteen years together

930
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 5: in New Orleans? How does that happen over the course

931
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 5: of three games or one season? How much time will

932
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 5: they get together for us to ultimately see that? So

933
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 5: you know, you mentioned Cleveland Browns potentially being another team

934
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 5: in that situation, and you know, Cleveland was a team

935
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 5: after Week one, you know I was talking about as hey.

936
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 4: They go, as Nick Chubb goes.

937
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 5: Their defense played really really good against the Bengals. You know,

938
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 5: they could be one of those you know, we're talking

939
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 5: about all these AFC powerhouse teams and hey, Cleveland could

940
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: be a team that sneaks around and surprises some people.

941
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: And then to.

942
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 5: Sean played the way that he played last week, it's

943
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 5: you know, what's wrong with DeShawn? You know, where's this

944
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 5: guy that we saw for so many years in Houston,

945
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 5: you know, and then he comes out this week with

946
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: no Nick Chubb, and you know, maybe that's kind of

947
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 5: what he needed. Like, hey, look, we don't go as

948
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 5: he goes. Now, I have to take the bull by

949
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 5: the horns here and go lead this offense to score

950
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: some points and get us a win. So, you know,

951
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 5: maybe that's what they needed. As far as Denver goes,

952
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: maybe it's the Chicago Bears come into town.

953
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 4: You know, who knows.

954
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 5: You know, we'll just have to see next week if

955
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 5: if that's what can maybe spark this offense get Russell

956
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 5: some confience. Russell was a guy for so many years

957
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 5: in Seattle. I felt like we played him every year

958
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 5: when I was in Minnesota, and no matter what the

959
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 5: score was, what the situation was, you're like, man, this

960
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 5: guy is just gonna find a way. He seems to

961
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 5: do it every single time. You know, you look at

962
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 5: the super Bowl in Arizona. Ultimately they throw the interception

963
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 5: late in the game, but it was like he made

964
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 5: so many plays to out of the course that the Super

965
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 5: Bowl to get him down there in that situation where

966
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 5: it's just like holy cow, you know, the ball just

967
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: seems to always bounce Russell's way. It always seems to

968
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 5: find the receiver. And as you mentioned last year, the

969
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 5: first three weeks of this year, you're just not really

970
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 5: seeing that magic from him just yet.

971
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: Oh believe me, as somebody who has followed the forty

972
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: nine ers for years. It was the stuff that nightmares

973
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: were made of. If Russell Wilson late in the game

974
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: on third down had the ball, just move the chains,

975
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: now forget it. You don't even like, why are we

976
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: even doing this, It's too painful to watch. Just move

977
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 2: the chains. He's gonna get the first down, he's gonna

978
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: get the touchdown, He's gonna get whatever he needs. That's

979
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: who he was and we did. We called it magic,

980
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson magic. Well, the magic is gone. And the

981
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 2: other thing is it feels like such a FATA company

982
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: in that division. Like I sort of understood what the

983
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: Raiders were doing when they let Derek Carr go. They're like,

984
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: first of all, I don't know if at the time

985
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: they were thinking that Jimmy Garoppolo, who just threw a

986
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: very trademark interception, but I don't know if that's what

987
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: they were necessarily thinking. But if they can get what

988
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: is probably similar level play for about half as much

989
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: and shorten up the contract, keep the flexibility. We'll see

990
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: what we're gonna do at QB next. I'm like, why

991
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't you do that? Derek Carr over any long haul

992
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: is never going to beat Patrick Mahomes. Justin Herbert feels

993
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: like he's got the ability to. The stats are absolutely

994
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: insane this year. But as they say, the Chargers always charger,

995
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 2: and they were one play away from being zero and

996
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: three themselves.

997
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: And so the Broncos sit here with all of this investment.

998
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: In a guy who feels like Kyle, I don't even

999
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: know how this team finishes second place over the next

1000
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: five years, let alone first. And so that that's why

1001
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: they they get my award for being the team right now.

1002
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: That's not just on the down side, but it's going

1003
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: to take the longest for them to turn it around.

1004
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, just being in that division. You mentioned that,

1005
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks on the other three teams, and certainly having

1006
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, who's not going anywhere in Kansas City, having

1007
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 5: Justin Herbert in Los Angeles with the Chargers. Just sign

1008
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 5: that huge contract, the second biggest in NFL history, and

1009
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 5: it's it's hard. You know, you're you're competing in a

1010
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 5: division where, like you said, realistically, you're kind of just

1011
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 5: competing for third place. It's it's you and the Raiders.

1012
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 5: Who's who's going to come in third place out of

1013
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 5: the four teams in that division? And how do you

1014
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 5: how do you get Russell back some of that magic

1015
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 5: that he had to where you know, I think back

1016
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 5: to some of those NFC West divisions back in the

1017
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 5: day with the San fran teams, with the Arizona of teams.

1018
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 5: As the Rams got to LA and started to play

1019
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 5: really really good football, that was a really really hard division.

1020
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 5: But you knew with Russell in Seattle, you always had

1021
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 5: a chance to compete in that division. It didn't matter

1022
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 5: who the other quarterbacks were in the division or the

1023
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 5: talent that the other teams in the division had, because

1024
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 5: like we've said multiple times, Russell seemed to always have

1025
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 5: that magic and if you just got on the ball

1026
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 5: late in the game, he was going to find a

1027
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 5: way to get down the field and score whatever gets

1028
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 5: you a field goal, get you a touchdown, And we're

1029
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 5: not seeing it right now.

1030
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 4: Is there a way to get that back?

1031
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 5: Is that why Sean Payton was brought there absolutely, but

1032
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 5: how long is that going to take? And how long

1033
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 5: are the Denver Broncos going to wait to see can

1034
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 5: we get Russell Wilson to play like Drew Brees And

1035
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 5: how long is that process going to take.

1036
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1043
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Speaker 2: to three, count them, three undefeated teams. And there's a

1044
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: line that we can very likely draw once we get

1045
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 2: to tomorrow night. I'll explain because the balance of power

1046
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: in some ways goes through one place. Based on what

1047
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: we've seen so far this year. That's coming up next

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Well, welcome to the new Chiefs

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Speaker 2: theme song. Here it is, and the Chiefs have a

1050
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Speaker 2: winning record for the first time this year. They're two

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Speaker 3: I think a good time to say that.

1060
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Speaker 2: Listen. I know you are too. We've talked about it

1061
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: a little bit. I'm a huge fan of Kyle Shanahan.

1062
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: I call myself even a Shanna fan, and he got

1063
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: a contract extension along with John Lynch this week with

1064
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

1065
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: It's not lost on me that the.

1066
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: Two football teams who have looked the healthiest, because even

1067
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 2: when you and I talked last week in the NFC,

1068
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: you kind of set apart the forty nine Ers and

1069
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: the Cowboys from the Eagles and the way they've started.

1070
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: And I know the Bucks are also two and zero.

1071
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: We'll see how real that is. The Bucks and Eagles

1072
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: play tomorrow night, so the undefeated ranks will lose another

1073
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: team and there will only be three left, which is

1074
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: the winner of that game, and then the Shanahan tree,

1075
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: which is the forty nine ers, and the Miami Dolphins,

1076
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: which is yet another. Like that tree, it grows and

1077
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: it grows and it grows. Right Mike McDaniel there in Miami,

1078
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: Robert Sala from the defensive side is with the Jets.

1079
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: Nice win today.

1080
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: Demico Ryans first as a head coach in Houston, and

1081
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: you see what's happening with CJ.

1082
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: Stroud.

1083
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: I think that this is and there are always the

1084
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 2: coaching trees out there, from Walsh to Parcels and Belichick.

1085
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: This to me is the next big tree because when

1086
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: you see not just three and zero records, but you

1087
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: see the offensive production that's happening, and quite frankly from

1088
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks who people largely don't want to put on

1089
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: the elite level, yet their numbers say they are.

1090
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: Well. I think it's a lot of both. I think

1091
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: two is fantastic.

1092
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: I think brock Perty's fantastic, But I also think Kyle

1093
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: Shanahan and Mike McDaniel they know how to draw up

1094
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: a dang play.

1095
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 5: No question about it. I mean, two of the best

1096
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 5: offensive mines in the game. I'd go as far as

1097
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 5: saying in a long time, not just right now, not

1098
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 5: just currently in the NFL. You think about the decades

1099
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 5: and decades of offensive football and systematic nature. You talk

1100
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: about coaching trees, and you know, the West Coast offense

1101
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 5: and different offenses throughout the course of time, and what

1102
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 5: we've seen. I think Andy Reid has done an unbelievable

1103
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 5: job at the way he's evolved his offense over the

1104
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 5: last twenty years or so. But what you see from

1105
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan and really all of the offensive coaches, I mean,

1106
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 5: they're all over the place in the NFL, all these

1107
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 5: play callers, all these head coaches. You see the offensive

1108
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 5: numbers that they put up, the statistics, the quarterback play,

1109
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 5: they just they have an unbelievable way of running the

1110
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 5: football in an extremely efficient way, an unbelievable scheme that

1111
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 5: quite honestly, it doesn't matter who the back is. That

1112
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 5: back is going to be most likely a thousand yard

1113
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 5: back in those offenses. And then you see really really

1114
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 5: efficient quarterback play. And you mentioned the two three and

1115
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 5: oh teams, the Dolphins and the Niners and their quarterbacks

1116
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 5: and the quarterback play that you know, nobody wants to

1117
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 5: give them the credit because everybody wants to say, oh, well,

1118
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 5: the offense, you know, it's the system, it's the players

1119
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 5: around them, and yeah, ultimately that helps. But I don't

1120
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 5: know any system quarterbacks that score seventy points in an

1121
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 5: NFL game seventy. I saw that score and thought it

1122
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 5: was a misprint from from a college game yesterday. If

1123
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 5: you hit fifty in the NFL, it's like, holy cow,

1124
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 5: they went to seventy.

1125
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: Right, nice throwing, no look passes, shovel passes out there.

1126
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: I mean, they're having fun. And I just like I

1127
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: get into this argument a lot, and I don't know why,

1128
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: Like there there isn't enough credit seemingly to go around.

1129
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan and Mike McDaniel are fantastic play callers. They

1130
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: also have built nice weaponry.

1131
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: Right.

1132
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: The Dolphins receiving core, although they were without Waddle today,

1133
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: is fantastic. The forty nine ers receiving cores, although it

1134
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: was without Brandon Aiyuk, is fantastic. But I just don't

1135
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: think that quarterbacking in the NFL. I think it's so hard.

1136
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: I don't think you have these sustained ten fifteen game

1137
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: runs where you're like rated over one hundred.

1138
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: You don't turn the.

1139
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: Ball over nearly at all, and all of that is

1140
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: supposedly a product of your surroundings.

1141
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: That's just me.

1142
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: I've never played, but I don't think that exists like that.

1143
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: To me, that makes it sound too easy, as if

1144
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: Kyle shanahan's a coach or McDaniel's the coach, and I

1145
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: got a Tyreek over here and a Debo over there

1146
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: and a McCaffrey behind me, and I can just be

1147
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: a guy. I don't think that exists.

1148
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 5: I want to give you a statistic from the Miami

1149
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 5: game that I just saw, and it really puts these

1150
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 5: things into perspective from quarterback play. And you know, I'm

1151
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 5: going to include Mike White just because he went in

1152
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 5: the game and he was two for two and threw

1153
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 5: a touchdown, and it helps my argument here. The ball

1154
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 5: hit the ground two less times than the Dolphins quarterbacks

1155
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 5: through touchdowns today. They threw five touchdowns and had three

1156
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 5: incompletions and two specifically had oh my god, three incompletions

1157
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 5: and threw four touchdowns. So the ball hit the ground

1158
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 5: less in the past game today than it went into

1159
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,479
Speaker 5: the end zone for touchdowns by two times. That's that's

1160
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 5: unheard of. That that's high school playing against the you know,

1161
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 5: the extremely outmatched crosstown rival. If you would type numbers

1162
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 5: and they put them up in an NFL game, insane.

1163
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: It's absolutely looking at it right now.

1164
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike White was actually rated higher than to it today.

1165
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 4: We'll tell you that sixty touchdowns are good. Gonna give

1166
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 4: you a good rating.

1167
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pretty good stuff. No man, I I I

1168
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: think that they're they're really interesting. And in the AFC,

1169
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: which all of us were talking about before the year, going,

1170
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: my gosh, what an embarrassment of riches with Mahomes and

1171
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: Allen and Burrow, ad In Rogers, Lamar's back, ready to go,

1172
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: all signed up.

1173
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 3: We think Trevor.

1174
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: Lawrence is going to take a leap and let's see

1175
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: what DeShawn can do. That was kind of the vibe,

1176
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden three weeks later. I don't

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01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: I don't think people would laugh if you if you

1178
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: called the Miami Dolphins a Super Bowl contender.

1179
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 4: No question.

1180
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 5: I think you know, we had talked about how difficult

1181
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 5: that division is in the AFC East, and you know,

1182
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 5: you look at the way things are starting to shake out,

1183
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 5: and you know, Buffalo certainly seems like they've solidified themselves.

1184
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 5: It's like, hey, guys, don't don't forget about us. You

1185
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 5: know we yeah, we may have dropped one there week

1186
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 5: one on Monday Night Football nine to eleven anniversary in

1187
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,479
Speaker 5: New York, but hey, you know we we've figured this out.

1188
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 5: They've had back to back strong performances, went on the

1189
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 5: road today and knocked off the two and O Washington

1190
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 5: Commanders in Washington. And you know, you're starting to see

1191
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 5: that Buffalo Bill's defense, that Sean McDermott defense. Shawn's now

1192
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 5: calling the plays again, as as Leslie Fraser is no

1193
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 5: longer there, you're starting to see his fingerprint on things,

1194
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 5: and you know, holding the Washington Commanders to three points,

1195
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 5: looks like Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs are starting to

1196
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 5: get back on the same page. You know, Diggs returning

1197
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 5: to form over one hundred yards again today, And it's like, hey, yeah, yes,

1198
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 5: Miami is they're I mean, they have to be in

1199
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 5: the conversation if you're talking about just Super Bowl contenders

1200
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 5: three weeks into the season. I mean, it's it's got

1201
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 5: to be them and the forty nine ers that I

1202
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 5: don't I don't see any other argument through three weeks.

1203
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 5: If you're if you tell me you have to pick

1204
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 5: one team from the AFC, one team from the NFC.

1205
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 5: Last week I had mentioned Dallas in San fran being

1206
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 5: kind of a little bit above everyone else the NFC.

1207
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 5: Extremely unfortunate news out of Dallas this week and a

1208
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 5: Thursday practice, you lose your best corner to a torn

1209
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 5: Aco and then you go on the road and lose

1210
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 5: that Arizona, And again I think, I don't people don't

1211
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 5: realize that kind of stuff like it. You say, oh,

1212
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 5: you lost the guy at practice, you got to go

1213
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 5: play the game. It doesn't matter. Well, you're already going

1214
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 5: to play theoretically an inferior opponent. And then you have

1215
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 5: something like that where you lose one of your key

1216
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 5: guys for the season in practice. It plays a toll

1217
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 5: in the locker room, and so they go and they

1218
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 5: drop one in Arizona this week. So you know, I

1219
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 5: certainly would say if I'm picking a team from each

1220
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 5: it's the Miami Dolphins and the forty nine ers.

1221
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to actually explore that a little

1222
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: bit further about how much of the shine comes off

1223
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: of the Cowboys because of this week, But also, yeah,

1224
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: when a key guy goes down, what kind of goes

1225
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: through the emotions of the locker room. We can dive

1226
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: into that coming up next, but let's dive into some

1227
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: time with Steve de Seger. Get him in here, find

1228
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: out what's trending out and about Hello, my friend.

1229
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: Hello.

1230
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 8: We will certainly be talking Dolphins in a couple minutes,

1231
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 8: But can I just say, after you lose a game

1232
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 8: seventy to twenty Denver did at Miami today, I personally

1233
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 8: would call that embarrassment. It's like the Broncos spent so

1234
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 8: much time trying to win the off season. Sean Payton,

1235
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 8: Maybe that's just the Fox hat I've got on Right now,

1236
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,959
Speaker 8: Steelers are leading at Las Vegas ten to seven under

1237
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 8: five minutes to go in the second quarter. Chris Boswell

1238
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 8: a forty three yard field goal in the second quarter

1239
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 8: for the league. Can he Pickett earlier with a seventy

1240
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 8: two yard touchdown pass. The Raider scoring came on a

1241
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 8: fourth and inches touchdown pass of thirty two yards Jimmy

1242
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 8: Garoppolo to DeVante adamsmid first quarter. Adam so far in

1243
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 8: this first half seven catches ninety seven yards and a touchdown,

1244
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 8: but it's the Raiders trailing at home. At least within

1245
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 8: think it's a home game ten to seven Pittsburgh. Yes,

1246
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 8: Steelers fans do travel. We knew that in advance. It

1247
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 8: is the case tonight' yes, especially Vegas. Yeah, exactly absolutely.

1248
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 8: And you know some of the fans that can make

1249
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 8: big time money selling off their Raider tickets. It's as

1250
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 8: an American capitalist, it's kind of hard to argue.

1251
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: At least I get it.

1252
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 8: Arizona beat Dallas twenty eight sixteen in an upset. James

1253
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 8: Connor on fourteen carries had ninety eight yards in a touchdown.

1254
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 8: Carolina's oh and three after losing at Seattle the final

1255
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 8: was thirty seven to twenty seven. And yes, the Bears

1256
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 8: are oh and three after losing at Kansas City. In fact,

1257
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 8: the Chiefs led forty one to nothing in the third

1258
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 8: quarter forty one ten the final. So next Sunday we've

1259
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 8: got to Denver at Chicago. Get your tickets now. Also

1260
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 8: next Sunday, it's Carolina hosting Minnesota, which is oh and three.

1261
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 8: Lost at home to the Chargers twenty eight, twenty four

1262
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 8: and Green Bay was down seventeen nothing second half and

1263
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 8: still beat New Orleans eighteen seventeen quarterback Derek Carr injured

1264
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 8: his right shoulder on a sack Miami three to zero

1265
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 8: after its win over Denver seventy to twenty. Rookie devon

1266
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 8: Ah chain On eighteen Carries had over two hundred yards rushing,

1267
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 8: and wide receiver Jalen Wattle was out did not play

1268
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 8: due to his concussion to a tongue of I looa

1269
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 8: four touchdown passes. Indian overtime won at Baltimore, victories for

1270
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,839
Speaker 8: Houston and Cleveland. Wins for Detroit and New England. Buffalo

1271
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 8: won at Washington thirty seven to three this Saturday on

1272
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 8: Fox TV New in Eastern Time. Number eight USC at Colorado,

1273
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 8: Colorado's out of college football's top twenty five NASCAR win

1274
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 8: for William Byron at Texas. In baseball tonight at Dodger Stadium,

1275
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 8: it is LA two to two with the rival Giants

1276
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 8: in the top of the ninth. That's the last game going.

1277
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 8: The Atlanta Braves did wind up finishing their double header

1278
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 8: in DC and splitting the two games. Now a little

1279
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,959
Speaker 8: more on the near history we had in the NFL.

1280
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 8: Just stunning that a professional team allows seventy points in

1281
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 8: a game Miami seventy to twelve the final. They had

1282
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 8: over seven hundred yards of offense. And this is not

1283
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 8: the Big twelve. This was the NFL Tonight. It is

1284
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 8: one of the rare games in NFL history where a

1285
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 8: team scores that much. Washington nineteen sixty six was the

1286
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 8: last seventy point game, apparently when they scored seventy two.

1287
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 8: The nineteen fifty La Rams had a seventy point game,

1288
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 8: and very famously, the Chicago Bears won the nineteen forty

1289
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 8: NFL title Game, scoring seventy three, still the most lopsided

1290
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 8: victory in NFL history because it was seventy three to

1291
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 8: nothing at Washington. The stunning thing is those two teams

1292
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 8: had just played each other a few weeks earlier in

1293
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 8: the regular season and the Bears lost seven to three.

1294
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 8: They went from scoring three to seventy three against the

1295
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 8: same opponent in the same stadium in the title game

1296
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Speaker 8: nineteen forty with George Hallis's coach and Sid Luckman as quarterback.

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Speaker 8: They also had eight interceptions in return three for touchdowns.

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Speaker 8: Teventy three nothing was the final in nineteen forty.

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Speaker 2: Back to you great stuff, Steve Yeah So averaging about

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01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: thirty six a game.

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Speaker 3: That's that's that's pretty good, and.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the most amazing thing, right, guys of this

1303
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: one today, Like it's not just seventy points. It was

1304
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 2: all on offense. There wasn't anything crazy that happened. It

1305
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: wasn't like a bunch of block kicks that got returned

1306
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: or any of that stuff. Like just absolutely wild, all

1307
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Speaker 2: right back in the tyrack dot com studios, Mark Ward,

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01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph, Okay, I think a lot of people were

1309
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: starting to point to week five Cowboys Niners, four and

1310
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: oh four to ozho, that's not gonna happen now. I

1311
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 2: do still think it'll be four and versus three and one.

1312
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys host New England. Last next week, forty nine Ers

1313
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: host the Cardinals, although the Cardinals clearly are at least

1314
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: a little bit better than we thought they were. But

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Speaker 2: I wonder what you think, Kyle, Like, how much of

1316
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 2: the Cowboys shine comes off with the one two punch

1317
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 2: of losing a game to the Cardinals and combine that

1318
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Speaker 2: with Trayvon Diggs no longer being available.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think losing Trayvon Diggs takes off a lot

1320
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 5: more of the shine than dropping a game in the

1321
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Speaker 5: Desert to the Arizona Cardinals. I think one of the

1322
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 5: things that excited me most about this Cowboys defense as

1323
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 5: opposed to maybe the Cowboys defense in the last few

1324
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 5: years that, yeah, they played really well in the regular season,

1325
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 5: you know, down the stretch, ultimately couldn't get the job

1326
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 5: done come playoff time. Was the addition of Stefan Gilmore

1327
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 5: opposite Trayvon Digs And what it's like when you, yeah,

1328
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 5: you take away one side of the field and you

1329
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 5: know that that quarterback isn't going to attack Trayvon. If

1330
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 5: he does with his ball skills most of the time

1331
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 5: he makes the quarterback pay for it. But what do

1332
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 5: you do on the other side. You are going to

1333
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 5: go after Stephan Gilmourt, extremely experienced, played in a lot

1334
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,919
Speaker 5: of big games, a ton of playoff experience, Super Bowl experience.

1335
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 5: What he brought to that defense opposite Trayvon, And now

1336
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 5: you lose the cornerstone, You lost the first piece of

1337
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 5: that puzzle and your best cover guy on defense. So

1338
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 5: I think that takes off more of the shine than

1339
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 5: the loss in the Desert. You know, Ultimately, I would

1340
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 5: look for them to bounce back this week with the

1341
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 5: Patriots coming to town. You know, sometimes you had those

1342
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 5: games where we don't play as well as maybe you hope,

1343
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 5: and you know, it kind of refocuses you and gets

1344
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,759
Speaker 5: you back locked in the following week. But I definitely

1345
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 5: would say that the injury takes way more shine off

1346
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 5: of that Cowboys team than the loss.

1347
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I also wonder to what

1348
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: level they are connected. In other words, the hangover of

1349
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: what happens a few days ago was that still with

1350
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: the Cowboys out on the field today. We can get

1351
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: to that coming up next with Kyle Rudolph Mark Willard

1352
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: Week three National Football League from Cover to Cover tonight

1353
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:10,480
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, Tyre rec dot Com Studios.

1354
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: Hold your breath moment in uh in Las Vegas is

1355
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo just got that classic sort of bent in half.

1356
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: He's already up and walked off the field, So I

1357
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: think it's optimistic. But man, especially with that guy's lower

1358
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 2: body history, that's a that's a hold your breath moment.

1359
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: And then also just you know, just because that just

1360
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 2: looked really that looked uncomfortable. If you ever had one

1361
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: of those, Kyle, like you had to him right where

1362
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 2: the feet get caught underneath and then the rest of

1363
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: you starts going a different direction.

1364
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a couple of ropes in my right

1365
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 5: ankle from one of those, so definitely you hate to

1366
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 5: see it happen.

1367
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 4: You know.

1368
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 5: Oftentimes it is like where you saw their kind of TJ.

1369
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 5: Watts making the sack and then his body weight goes

1370
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 5: to the one side and just a foot gets stuck

1371
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 5: in the grass. So we can't blame this one on turf.

1372
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 5: That one was was on the grass, and you just

1373
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 5: you hate to see it. It looks like the mechanism

1374
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 5: for a high ankle spring. It's about as prototypical as

1375
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 5: you could see from from the replay there. He looks

1376
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 5: like he's walking pretty good, trying to shake it off.

1377
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 5: He looks like you have both of his ankles tape prior.

1378
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 5: Obviously you mentioned his lower body history with his feet

1379
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 5: and ankles. But yeah, he looks like he's walking around

1380
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 5: and may have dodged a bullet there.

1381
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no medical tent situation for for Jimmy here.

1382
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 2: But but but a good time to continue the conversation

1383
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: we're having, like this is a completely different sport. But

1384
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: you know, following the teams I follow here in the

1385
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: in the Bay Area, there's a very famous year and

1386
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 2: it led to a change in rules. It's actually called

1387
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: the Buster Posey rule at home plate, with you know,

1388
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: the inability to uh to plow through the catcher because

1389
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: the year after the Giants won their first World Series,

1390
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: which was in twenty ten, that group, at least in

1391
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, Buster got hit at the plate by a

1392
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 2: player on the Marlins and it broke his ankle, and

1393
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: the Giants lost almost every game for the next week

1394
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 2: and a half. And it had nothing to do with baseball,

1395
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: and it had nothing to do with the fact that, yeah,

1396
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: sure one of their best players wasn't in there. I

1397
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: think it had everything to do with the fact that

1398
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: they just had a huge lump in their throat. They

1399
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: knew they were up a creek, they knew their season

1400
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: was probably over.

1401
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 3: Their guy was gone.

1402
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: And I wonder if that was on the field today

1403
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: for the Dallas Cowboys, because it.

1404
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 3: Wasn't all just about the corner play.

1405
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 2: James Connor was running wild and Josh Dobbs looked like

1406
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: a very viable NFL quarterback today. And I just have

1407
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: to think that the Dallas Cowboys, who are very talented.

1408
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 3: I think it's a very good defense and still will be.

1409
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: But they they showed up looking shaken and it has

1410
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 2: to have been Trayvon Diggs well.

1411
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 5: And I think timing as well. Mark, you may think

1412
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 5: about when the injury happened. We see injuries happen every

1413
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,480
Speaker 5: week watching games on Sunday, Thursday, Sunday, Monday.

1414
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,440
Speaker 4: Night, Monday night.

1415
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 5: For the injury to happen on a Thursday practice, you know,

1416
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 5: you're never expecting to lose someone, especially at this point

1417
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 5: of the season. You know, may guys go down during

1418
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 5: training camp practices early in the year here and there. Yes,

1419
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 5: you always want to keep your guys healthy. But getting

1420
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,600
Speaker 5: into the heart of the season and losing one of

1421
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 5: your best players on a Thursday practice, that's demoralizing for

1422
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 5: a team, and that is something that would carry over

1423
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 5: to that Sunday's game. You know, losing a guy in

1424
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 5: a game on a Sunday, and we see it all

1425
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 5: the time. It happens all the time. It's in my opinion,

1426
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 5: it's the most unfortunate part of the game that we

1427
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 5: all played. But it happens, and you get over it,

1428
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 5: and you know you have to move on to next week.

1429
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 5: Losing a guy that late in the week of a

1430
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 5: preparation doesn't happen often and can really shake a roster well.

1431
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 2: And I'd also say this, and this is solely you

1432
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: know from talking to coaches through the years, there's a

1433
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 2: reason that certain positions.

1434
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 3: Are played and paid the way they are.

1435
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: So in other words, I don't need to tell anybody

1436
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: about the quarterback position.

1437
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 3: Everyone gets the importance.

1438
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 2: But also that left tackle and that elite pass rusher

1439
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: and that elite corner that's one of those are the

1440
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: highest paid spots on the field. We're moving toward top

1441
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 2: wide receiver as well. But there's a reason for that.

1442
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,919
Speaker 2: And so I do think that there's the emotional side.

1443
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: I do think there's the football side. You just spoke

1444
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: to it. I think about ten to fifteen minutes ago,

1445
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: like the Cowboys, they're still good. They were very good.

1446
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: I still think they're very good. But I don't know

1447
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 2: if they're going to function the same way without their

1448
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: elite corner. Too many coaches have told me that that is.

1449
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 2: You know, if I said, hey, two or three things

1450
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 2: that you'd want to start your roster with, that's on

1451
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: the list, and so I don't know if the Cowboys

1452
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 2: defense is going to function the same way that it

1453
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: had been.

1454
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 5: Well, I think the thing that gives them the best

1455
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 5: chance to continue to function at a high level like

1456
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 5: they did the first couple weeks of the year is

1457
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 5: the rush. When you have guys like Micah Parsons, the

1458
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 5: Marcus Lawrence getting after the quarterback. You've seen it time

1459
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 5: and time again. I would argue that I'd rather have

1460
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 5: an elite rusher than an elite cover guy because an

1461
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 5: elite rusher is going to make that cover guy's job

1462
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 5: that much easier. He's not going to have to cover

1463
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 5: as long he knows the ball has to come out.

1464
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1465
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 5: I think about a lot of the great secondaries over

1466
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 5: the last hire many years, and oftentimes there was always

1467
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 5: a great front that went with it, and they knew

1468
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 5: that we could play off of that front. So I'm

1469
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 5: not all out on the Cowboys defense just because of

1470
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 5: you know, Micah Parsons really more so than anyone else,

1471
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,600
Speaker 5: and his ability to get after the quarterback. But I

1472
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 5: think that gives this, you know, this defense hope that

1473
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 5: you know, whoever is the next man up at the

1474
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 5: corner position there playing opposite Stefan Gilmore. He knows that, Hey,

1475
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,919
Speaker 5: I got guys up front who can get after the quarterback,

1476
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 5: so I don't have to cover all day out here,

1477
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 5: and the ball's got to come out at some point.

1478
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: Oh, you're not wrong, You're You're absolutely not wrong like that.

1479
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a reason that that, like the Steelers and

1480
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers don't go over the top with

1481
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: paying an elite corner because they've got that elite edge

1482
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: rusher who's making all the dbs a whole lot better. Okay,

1483
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: it's Mark Willard and Kyle Rudolph here on Fox Sports

1484
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: Radio working our way through Week three in the National

1485
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Speaker 2: Football League. Coming up next. I'm still not sure how

1486
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: good this guy is, but I do know this, he's

1487
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 2: got the it factor.

1488
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 3: I'll tell you about that coming up next.

1489
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1493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sunday Night Football is getting ready for the second half, and.

1494
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,440
Speaker 3: We're in the third quarter ourselves.

1495
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Speaker 2: If you will, Mark Willard Kyle Rudolph Week three National

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Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be, Kyle, I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: how good he is. I'm not sure how good he's

1503
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Speaker 2: going to be. I will say he looks viable, but

1504
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: already what I think.

1505
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 4: We do know.

1506
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 2: We do know that Jordan Love has a little bit

1507
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 2: of that thing, you know what I mean. Some people

1508
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Speaker 2: call it moxie. Some people call it just like a flare,

1509
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: a flair for the dramatic. Sure, they suffered a come

1510
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 2: from a head loss last week and he fell over

1511
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: while just trying to stand up behind the line. So

1512
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 2: that was funny too, But you know, today that's a thing.

1513
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 3: And I know Derek Carr got hurt.

1514
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 2: I know it was only eighteen points and all that stuff,

1515
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 2: but engineering a seventeen to nothing comeback the way he

1516
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: did the two points conversion, which was totally improvised. Jordan

1517
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 2: Love is an interesting player so far this year.

1518
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when you watch this Green Bay team.

1519
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 5: When you watch Jordan Love now take over the reigns

1520
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: of this offense and quite frankly, this entire organization, I

1521
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 5: think everyone just assumed there would be a huge regression,

1522
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 5: like Green Bay can't possibly get it right again. You know,

1523
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 5: they go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers. It's over

1524
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 5: thirty years of excellence from an organization standpoint. As someone

1525
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 5: who was in that division for ten years, you know,

1526
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 5: dealing here and in year out with Aaron, knowing that

1527
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 5: you were going to have to compete with with that

1528
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 5: guy and that team that organization for a playoff spot,

1529
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,560
Speaker 5: I think everyone in the division kind of just exhaled

1530
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 5: when Aaron left and figured, eh, well, we'll see what

1531
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 5: Jordan Love has. We're not really worried about it anymore.

1532
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 5: Let's look elsewhere in the division and see where that

1533
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 5: competition will come from. And you got to give Jordan

1534
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 5: Love credit because he kind of said, hold on a second,

1535
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 5: you know, I'm going to show you otherwise. And through

1536
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 5: three games, you got to like what you've seen from him.

1537
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 5: He gives this team a chance to win. He gives

1538
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 5: this team a chance to make the playoffs. You know,

1539
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 5: certainly you talked about last week coming in the game,

1540
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 5: having a chance to lead the team down the field

1541
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 5: and have that two minute drive to win the game.

1542
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 5: Ultimately wasn't able to do it. But today, coming from

1543
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 5: behind down seventeen points, scoring eighteen points in the fourth quarter,

1544
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 5: you know, that's big time for a young quarterbacks confidence.

1545
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 5: That's big time for the guys in the locker room

1546
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 5: who now they all knew Aaron would do it, but

1547
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 5: now when you see Jordan in that situation leading the

1548
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,879
Speaker 5: team to victory, guys start to believe.

1549
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what, And I realized that some

1550
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: of this might be hard for you to say with

1551
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 2: a career as a Viking. Uh, but yeah, they're there.

1552
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: There's some interesting stuff going on at the start of

1553
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: this season for that team. Uh if people don't realize

1554
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: how hamstrung the Packers were today. Uh, there was again

1555
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 2: no Aaron Jones there. There still has been no Christian

1556
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 2: Watson in theory. Jordan Love has not played one game

1557
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: with the guy who's supposed to be his number one receiver.

1558
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: There was no Bacdiari like the offensive line was what

1559
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 2: was challenged for sure.

1560
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 3: So he's doing a lot.

1561
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: Of this with uh with with a lot of roadblocks

1562
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: in his way, and as you said, like give the

1563
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 2: Falcons all credit for what they did last week, but

1564
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 2: this team is incredibly close to being three and oh

1565
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 2: and then when you look at what's happened up and

1566
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 2: down the division, I think the Lions are largely who

1567
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: we thought they were going to be. They're they're they're

1568
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,799
Speaker 2: relevant and and they are a factor here in the NFC.

1569
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: I think that that's a playoff. But with the Vikings

1570
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: coming off of a thirteen and four campaign and now

1571
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: being zero to three, and the Bears being whatever the

1572
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: heck that is, there's a window here.

1573
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 3: You know.

1574
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: I think we all think the forty nine ers are

1575
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: a playoff team. Someone's got to win the South. And

1576
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: we think Philly and Dallas are playoff teams, and I

1577
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: would say Detroit too. But after that, that leaves three

1578
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: more slots that are really sort of up for grabs

1579
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 2: for the Seattles and for you know, whether it's Washington

1580
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,759
Speaker 2: or the Giants Green Bay. To me, again, we're so early.

1581
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 2: They look to me like someone who might be able

1582
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,440
Speaker 2: to grab one of those spots.

1583
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 5: I agree with you, and I think you know, when

1584
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 5: you look at this division. You mentioned Minnesota off to

1585
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 5: a start that they didn't expect coming off of a

1586
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 5: thirteen and four year last year, Chicago and their struggles,

1587
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 5: I think it's very safe to say that Detroit is

1588
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 5: is solid. You know, they're a team that's going to

1589
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 5: be competing for the division, certainly a playoff spot late

1590
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 5: in the year, late December, early January. But when you

1591
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 5: look at the NFC as a whole and we think

1592
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 5: about you know, coming into today, the NFC South had

1593
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 5: three undefeated teams. The two teams that played today lost.

1594
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,839
Speaker 5: We'll see what the Bucks do tomorrow night against Philly

1595
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 5: and a formal.

1596
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 4: Opponent of Formidable Rush.

1597
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 5: You know, I'm really curious to see how that inexperienced

1598
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 5: interior offensive line of the Bucks handles that front that

1599
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 5: gave the Vikings so many problems last week on Thursday Night.

1600
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 5: So it's like, Okay, how many teams out out of

1601
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 5: those are legitimate? You know, you mentioned the top two

1602
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 5: in the East with the Giants. You know, do the

1603
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 5: Giants get things figured out, do they take a step

1604
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 5: back from last year? And then I really just think

1605
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 5: the Seahawks are the only team out West outside of

1606
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers who look to be running away

1607
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 5: with that division. But also, you know, the Rams, what

1608
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 5: what are what are the Rams? They don't even have

1609
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 5: their best weapon on offense yet yet Matthew Stafford is

1610
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 5: making these rookies look like all pro wide receivers, breaking

1611
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 5: all kinds of records in the first two games. So

1612
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 5: it's it's I think that second tier of NFC teams,

1613
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 5: you know, we we we're starting to see who some

1614
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 5: of these division winners and and your top wild card

1615
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 5: teams are going to be. But what what are those

1616
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 5: second tier NFC teams who have a chance at at

1617
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 5: getting in in those last couple of wildcard spots. I

1618
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 5: think it's it's interesting, and there's there's a lot of

1619
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 5: depth in that group as well.

1620
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I agree with you. The Rams, It'll be

1621
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: interesting to see them tomorrow night. Don't know yet if

1622
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is playing for the Bengals and and they're

1623
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: so desperate. But the Rams quite frankly, have been largely

1624
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: more often than not only a two game sample, but

1625
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 2: more more impressive than not going to Seattle, shutting them

1626
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: out in the second half, winning that game going away,

1627
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 2: and they gave the Niners everything they could handle back

1628
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: in Week two, even though the forty nine ers ended

1629
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: up winning that game. So I think they're still an

1630
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 2: approve it stage and I look forward to seeing them

1631
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. I'll tell you, you know, you mentioned what you

1632
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: said about Detroit. They have got to be thrilled. Thrilled

1633
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: that not that they won today, but that they won

1634
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: like one of these sort of slugout defensive type affairs.

1635
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: Twenty six total points in the game. We already know

1636
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 2: that Detroit's weapons and their style of play, they're able

1637
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: to put up thirty plus points in a game. Sometimes

1638
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 2: the other team does too, though, and that's similar to

1639
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: what happened to them last week against Seattle. But for

1640
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: them to go to Kansas City and win a game

1641
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 2: with only twenty one points and today to win a

1642
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: game by double digits with only twenty points, to me,

1643
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: that's that sign of sort of like organization shuttle growth

1644
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: that that makes them the factor that they are in

1645
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: the NFC.

1646
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think when you think about the mentality

1647
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 5: of the Detroit Lions, you know, we know how the

1648
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 5: Atlanta Falcons have to win games in the style that

1649
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 5: they play with. Then you just have to imagine that

1650
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 5: all week long. Dan Campbell was like, there's no way

1651
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 5: this team is going to come in here and just

1652
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 5: run the football all over us and you know, out

1653
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 5: physical our defense and bully us around. It's just it's

1654
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 5: not the nature of that head coach, and it's certainly

1655
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 5: his identity has seemed to radiate throughout the entire team,

1656
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 5: and you just you just knew that there's no way

1657
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 5: Atlanta was going to go in there and win the

1658
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 5: games that win the game the way that they had

1659
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 5: the first two weeks. We all know the way that

1660
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 5: Atlanta has to play in order to put themselves in

1661
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 5: position to win football games. And I just feel like

1662
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 5: that's that's against everything Dan Campbell believes in when he

1663
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 5: wakes up in the morning, as having another team come

1664
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 5: in and just physically dominate them running the football time

1665
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 5: in and time out. So you know, you look at

1666
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 5: the stats and they held the Falcons to forty four

1667
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 5: yards rushing. So you imagine sitting in those team meetings

1668
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 5: all week, you know, Dan Campbell was up there just

1669
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 5: preaching the importance of stopping the run, making Desmond Ritter

1670
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 5: drop back and throw the football to beat you. So

1671
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 5: it is encouraging because I feel like every time we've

1672
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,520
Speaker 5: talked about the Detroit Lions and what is their weakness,

1673
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 5: it's the defense and the ability to stop people when

1674
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 5: you need it, And they did that today holding the

1675
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:36,719
Speaker 5: Falcons to six points.

1676
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 2: Well, and I mean consistency, right, I think that that's

1677
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 2: like what you're looking for. There are a lot of

1678
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: things in sports that upon arrival were like, Wow, we

1679
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: love this, you know, I mean messy this year, Dion

1680
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:56,879
Speaker 2: Sanders is just like Ie popping your enthralled new fans.

1681
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 2: Everything's going crazy. And I'm not saying that can't last.

1682
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 2: There are things that are amazing that that stand the

1683
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 2: test of time. But what you want, I think after

1684
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,679
Speaker 2: that big sort of wow factor or that landing, Dan

1685
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 2: Campbell walks in and we're biting kneecaps and everything becomes

1686
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 2: really funny with the press conference. But after a while,

1687
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 2: what you want is for when that dies down, that

1688
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 2: initial sort of pop are are you just there?

1689
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 3: Are you there as a.

1690
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 2: Quality outfit that can produce something viable on a week

1691
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 2: and a week out basis, And every time something that's

1692
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 2: new pops, that's sort of the question. After all the

1693
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: excitement dies down, what's left. And I really feel like

1694
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 2: last year, from biting kneecaps to hard knocks, everything died

1695
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 2: down and what do we have.

1696
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 3: You get a pretty good football team.

1697
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 5: That's what you got, especially the second half of last year.

1698
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 5: Initially you had a one in seven football team and

1699
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 5: it was like, Okay, this whole biting kneecaps mentality. It

1700
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 5: may have worked in you know, the the eighties and

1701
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 5: early nineties with Bill Parcells, and you know, it's it's

1702
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 5: not today's game. You know, the whole basketball on grass

1703
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 5: seems to win, the tempo that the game has played,

1704
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 5: the rules that are now enforced. I did that style

1705
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 5: can't work anymore. But we talked about this a lot

1706
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 5: earlier in the show about indication of improvement with quarterbacks,

1707
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 5: and I think that can be said for teams as

1708
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 5: a whole as well. Like when when you see a

1709
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 5: team that is starting to encompass the identity of their

1710
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 5: head coach and you're seeing improvement from you know, year

1711
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 5: one to year two, specifically the second half of year two,

1712
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 5: they were a really good football team. On the back

1713
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 5: half of last year that was, you know, a game

1714
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 5: away from from making the playoffs. And then what do

1715
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 5: they do from last year to this year and taking

1716
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 5: another step forward. Jared Goff's playing unbelievable football under center

1717
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 5: for them that we all know the offense and the

1718
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,719
Speaker 5: explosiveness that the offense has, and you're starting to see

1719
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 5: consistent improvement on the defensive side of the ball, starting

1720
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 5: to get stops when you need, giving yourself a chance

1721
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 5: to not have to win forty eight forty five tight games.

1722
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 5: Going out and winning twenty to six against a different

1723
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,799
Speaker 5: style offense, a different mentality offense. Quite honestly, an offense

1724
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 5: that's just going to come test your toughness all day

1725
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 5: long is encouraging for that Detroit Lions defense and team

1726
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 5: as a whole.

1727
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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we need to get to the leash,

1732
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: and no that does not mean we're going to take

1733
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 2: our dogs for walks. There are a few things already

1734
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: starting to develop around the NFL, things that have been

1735
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: consistent for a long time, but now people are wondering,

1736
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 2: how long do you stick with something that's been great

1737
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 2: when it's not great anymore. We're gonna get to that

1738
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 2: coming up next with Kyle Rudolph, Mark Willard. This is

1739
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, We're in the Tirereck dot

1740
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 2: Com Studios. That's Kyle Rudolph, I'm Mark Whillard. In one quarterback.

1741
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,839
Speaker 2: I just read a quote, I read a postgame quote

1742
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 2: that we're gonna, oh boy, we're gonna have to discuss

1743
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 2: this one.

1744
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 3: You know in the NFL.

1745
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 2: You know this, Kyle, Like, it gets good fast and

1746
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 2: it gets bad fast. And we're still in the month

1747
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,879
Speaker 2: of September, and there are certain teams and players already

1748
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 2: just totally on the search. They look and they sound lost.

1749
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 2: And that is the case with this particular quarterback. We'll

1750
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 2: tell you who we're talking about here in just a

1751
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: little bit.

1752
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 3: Steelers continue to lead the Raiders.

1753
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 2: They are now up by two scores third quarteraction, sixteen

1754
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,719
Speaker 2: to seven. By the way, something this is off subject,

1755
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: but I want to ask you, hey, when did kickers

1756
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 2: legs all end up like steroid it up? And I

1757
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 2: mean that as a joke, but like Chris Boswell, a

1758
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 2: few minutes ago, fifty seven.

1759
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 3: Yarder cleared the bar by at least.

1760
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 2: Ten yards, and I'm like, yo, twenty years ago, no

1761
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,719
Speaker 2: one would have even tried that field goal. And now

1762
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 2: you know, Indie today I think hit three or four

1763
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 2: field goals of more than fifty yards.

1764
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 3: It is wild. Man.

1765
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but like a fifty five

1766
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 2: yarder for a lot of these guys looks like an

1767
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:48,480
Speaker 2: extra point now.

1768
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 4: Just a chip shot.

1769
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 5: I mean, Matt Prater hit one from sixty two today

1770
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,680
Speaker 5: and you know he's not a spring chicken. He's been

1771
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 5: kicking for a long time in this league and he

1772
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 5: knocked on through from sixty two was nothing. I mean,

1773
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 5: it's certainly an advantage you think about as an offense

1774
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 5: where you have to get on the field knowing that

1775
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 5: we already have three points in the bag. You know,

1776
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 5: if your kickers knocking it into the net from fifty seven.

1777
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 5: So we crossed the fifty and we're one first down

1778
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 5: away from three points. I mean, that's that's such a

1779
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 5: huge advantage from a play caller standpoint, and just you know,

1780
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 5: a comfort level standpoint from the quarterback to know, hey,

1781
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 5: you know all I gotta do is get us a

1782
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,799
Speaker 5: couple first downs here and we almost got three points.

1783
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 2: It's wild, man, that Colts Ravens game was played in

1784
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: overtime for a while, like everyone was just trying to

1785
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 2: get to the forty yard line so they could line

1786
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:47,440
Speaker 2: up a fifty eight yarder and for a few possessions,

1787
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 2: nobody could do it.

1788
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 5: It's just so nobody has been outg than Justin Tucker

1789
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 5: on the other side, he barely have to cross the

1790
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 5: fifty to put him in range.

1791
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 2: Totally, although he missed one at the buzzer regulation that

1792
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 2: was a little bit north of sixty yards and it

1793
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 2: was online. It just didn't quite get there. But yeah, man,

1794
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 2: it's wild. It's totally wild. But anyway, back to what

1795
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, when something's worked for a

1796
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 2: long time but then feels sort of like it's run

1797
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 2: its course. I'm not trying to run anyone out of town,

1798
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 2: but I'll ask you like because I see it and

1799
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 2: I feel it. It feels to me and maybe an

1800
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 2: odd time to ask, because here the Steelers are on

1801
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 2: Sunday Night football, up by nine points and they look

1802
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 2: like they got a good shot to be two and

1803
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 2: one here in an hour, but both Mike Tomlin and

1804
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, it like, these are the guys. It's Super

1805
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 2: Bowls and and they've been the standard bearers of the

1806
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 2: AFC for so long. But something whether it's just searching

1807
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 2: for a quarterback, I think it is that simple. But

1808
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:56,440
Speaker 2: when you don't have that guy, then it starts to feel.

1809
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 3: Stale real quick.

1810
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: And I hear a lot of Steeler fans are starting

1811
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: to to chirp and bark, and so I wonder, what's

1812
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 2: what's what's the right thing to do with these two teams,

1813
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 2: knowing that it's it's been a minute and they don't

1814
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 2: really look or feel like they're all that close either.

1815
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you we we've talked about

1816
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 5: Mac Jones and the regression that he had last year

1817
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 5: and year two coming off of a you know, a

1818
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 5: Playoff appearance and a Pro Bowl appearance as a rookie.

1819
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 5: You know, certainly things have not looked the same in

1820
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 5: New England since Tom Brady left and went to Tampa Bay.

1821
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 5: So you have to look back, and you know, certainly

1822
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,800
Speaker 5: the combination of the two guys, both Bill Belichick and

1823
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 5: Tom Brady, the success that they had over the two

1824
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 5: decades together.

1825
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:51,679
Speaker 4: In New England.

1826
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 5: And then also you look at Pittsburgh and the success

1827
01:38:55,640 --> 01:39:00,080
Speaker 5: that both Mike Tomlin and Ben Roethlisberger had together. So

1828
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 5: you know, you're looking at two first ballot Hall of

1829
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 5: Fame quarterbacks that were there for you know, almost twenty

1830
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 5: years and twenty years, and it was just you almost

1831
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 5: take it for granted that, especially as a defensive head coach,

1832
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 5: when you have that guy on the other side who

1833
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 5: just you know, week in and week out, you have

1834
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 5: a chance to win the game no matter how you

1835
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 5: play on defense, and if you go out and play

1836
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 5: well on defense, you're going to win the game because

1837
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 5: that guy's going to make sure that you always go

1838
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 5: out and score seventeen points or more.

1839
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 3: So.

1840
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 5: Now both of these Hall of Fame head coaches are

1841
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 5: stuck with young quarterbacks. You know, in Pittsburgh, certainly they

1842
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 5: feel like they found their guy and Kenny Pickett and

1843
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 5: had an incredible preseason, showed a lot of promise, a

1844
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 5: lot of improvement from last year. And you know they're

1845
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 5: just scored again to go up twenty three to seven

1846
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 5: here on Sunday Night Football, to move to move to

1847
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 5: two and one, and again it kind of goes back

1848
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 5: to the points we were making a little bit last

1849
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 5: week on when winning the super Bowl is your ultimate

1850
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 5: and only goal, when you're living in this gray area

1851
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 5: of barely missing the playoffs, just making the playoffs, losing

1852
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 5: in the first round, and not really ever competing for it.

1853
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 5: It's so difficult because you know, what do you do,

1854
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 5: What do you do at the head coach position, what

1855
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 5: do you do at the quarterback position? If you feel

1856
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 5: like you have your guy and that's where you're living,

1857
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 5: you're just in this gray area.

1858
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 4: So it's it's tough.

1859
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 5: But you know, at the same time, I look at

1860
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 5: both of those coaches and the sustained success that they've had,

1861
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 5: especially Mike Tomlin. I mean, to come in to the

1862
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 5: NFL and never have a losing season, that's that's pretty incredible.

1863
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:45,480
Speaker 4: I mean, it's.

1864
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:48,440
Speaker 5: Incredible, no matter who your quarterback is and what transition

1865
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 5: the organization has gone through, and and those guys rightfully

1866
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 5: so get to kind of dictate the terms well.

1867
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 2: And by the way, they're they're a quarter away from

1868
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 2: being in first place, which I know, doesn't you know,

1869
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter here in September, It doesn't matter after

1870
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 2: Week three, by no say, you know, by no stretch,

1871
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 2: am I suggesting there's any sort of hot seat here,

1872
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 2: like these are made men. But we learned, we learned

1873
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 2: a few years ago what the answer was to the

1874
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 2: age old question of Brady or Belichick. We learned it

1875
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 2: takes nothing away from Belichick. He's an amazing, amazing coach,

1876
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 2: one of the greatest of all time.

1877
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 3: This is already in ink.

1878
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, give me the great quarterback more so than

1879
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: the great coach. I saw what Phil Jackson looked like

1880
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 2: when he finally coached without Kobe and Shaq and Michael

1881
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Jordan is very, very very good coach, but just not

1882
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 2: quite the same, you know what I mean?

1883
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I don't think you'll ever find a head

1884
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 5: coach and a good head coach who would say it differently.

1885
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 5: I feel like every good coach I've ever been around,

1886
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 5: their answer is always, well, I have good players, you know, Yes,

1887
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 5: I need to put those good players in situations to

1888
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 5: maximize their potential, to bring out the best in them,

1889
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 5: to make them have the most success possible. But you'd

1890
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 5: be very hard pressed to find an extremely successful head

1891
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 5: coach who wouldn't say I had great players. It's just

1892
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 5: kind of the nature of that position, and ultimately all

1893
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 5: the really really good ones are saying the same thing

1894
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 5: and saying, well, I was fortunate I had very good players.

1895
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

1896
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 2: And so we'll see Kenny Pickett looks like a very

1897
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 2: good player tonight. I know that it's very early and

1898
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 2: it has not been the way the last couple of weeks.

1899
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 2: All right, coming up in just a minute here the

1900
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 2: quarterback quote that I need to read to you and

1901
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 2: get a reaction because it sounds it sounds kind of lost,

1902
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 2: and it sounds sort of retrospective.

1903
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 3: And we're only three weeks into the season. Moments away.

1904
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: But let's get Steve de Seger in here, find out

1905
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 2: what's trending out and about Hello.

1906
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 3: Steve, Hello.

1907
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 8: About four minutes to go, third quarter in Vegas Pittsburgh,

1908
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 8: twenty three seven over the Raiders. Las Vegas did have

1909
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 8: a first quarter lead of seven nothing when they threw

1910
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,599
Speaker 8: the touchdown pass on a fourth in inches call Jimmy

1911
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 8: Garoppolo thirty two yards to DeVante Adams. They haven't scored

1912
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 8: since Adams. Doves have eight catches for one hundred and

1913
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 8: fifteen yards, and that score in three quarters of play

1914
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 8: on the ground Josh Jacobs eleven carries thirty nine yards,

1915
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 8: Jimmy Garoppolo the one TV and two interceptions, Now Steelers

1916
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 8: quarterback Kenny Pickett with a touchdown pass of seventy two

1917
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 8: yards and also now thirteen yards twenty three seven. Pittsburgh

1918
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 8: leads on the road Seattle thirty seven twenty seven winners

1919
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 8: against Carolina, although Adam Thielen now with the Panthers had

1920
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 8: eleven catches one hundred and forty five yards and a

1921
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 8: touchdown Carolina oh and three Chicago oh and three. In fact,

1922
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:01,719
Speaker 8: they were down at Kansas City forty one to nothing

1923
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 8: in the third quarter forty one ten the final Patrick

1924
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 8: Mahomes three short touchdown passes. The ankle is said to

1925
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:10,759
Speaker 8: be okay after he was rolled up on Miami beato

1926
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 8: and three. Denver seventy to twenty four touchdown passes for

1927
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 8: two a tonguea by low Dolphins now three and zero

1928
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 8: Dallas is not. Arizona upset the Cowboys twenty eight sixteen.

1929
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 8: Cardinals led at the half twenty one ten after a

1930
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 8: sixty two yard field goal by Matt Prater. Next Sunday

1931
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 8: on Fox TV New England at Dallas and Arizona at

1932
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 8: San Francisco, green Bay came back to beat New Orleans

1933
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 8: eighteen seventeen. Saints quarterback Derek Carr injured his right shoulder

1934
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 8: on a sack, and then Green Bay got eighteen points

1935
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter to win. Rashaan Gary of the

1936
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 8: winners three sacks in this game. Chargers won at Minnesota

1937
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 8: twenty eight twenty four. The Vikings record now zero and three.

1938
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 8: Keenan Allen in the win eighteen receptions two hundred and

1939
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,959
Speaker 8: fifteen yards, and he threw a touchdown pass to Mike Williams.

1940
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 8: Williams had seven catches for a one hundred and twenty

1941
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 8: one yards but left with a knee injury. He'll have

1942
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 8: an MRI tomorrow. The Colts won in overtime at Baltimore

1943
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 8: twenty two to nineteen as Zach Moss had thirty carries

1944
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 8: for one hundred and twenty two yards and one touchdown

1945
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 8: reception wins for Detroit and Cleveland. For Houston and New England.

1946
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 8: Buffalo won thirty seven to three at Washington, and Washington's

1947
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 8: quarterback Sam Howel not only through four interceptions, he was

1948
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 8: sacked nine times. Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow with a sore

1949
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 8: CAF listed as questionable for Monday night against the Rams.

1950
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 8: Eagles wide receiver DeVante Smith practice full of yesterday, so

1951
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 8: he should play Monday. Yes, there are two games tomorrow.

1952
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 8: Eagles are two and oh going up against Tampa Bay

1953
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:42,719
Speaker 8: two and O. Bucks linebacker Devin White also due to play.

1954
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 8: Colorado's out of college Football's Top twenty five this Saturday

1955
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 8: on Fox TV, Colorado hosts number eight ranked USC noon

1956
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 8: Eastern Time. By the way, at number twenty five in

1957
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 8: the AP pole now is Fresno State, which has won

1958
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 8: thirteen straight games, the second longest current streak in the

1959
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:02,879
Speaker 8: country behind George Nascar. Win at Texas for William Byron.

1960
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 8: In Chicago, Bryson Deshambo took the live golf event. US

1961
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 8: women's soccer won its exhibition in Chicago two nothing over

1962
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 8: South Africa. Megan Rapino's final game with the team, The

1963
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 8: ballgame tonight at Dodger Stadium went to LA and ten

1964
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 8: innings over the rival Giants, three to two. Philadelphia won

1965
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,879
Speaker 8: its fifth straight game. Atlanta split a doubleheader at Washington

1966
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 8: and home wins for the Reds, Marlins, and Cubs as

1967
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 8: they fight for a playoff spot. In the National League

1968
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 8: one week left in the regular season. Cubs lead for

1969
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 8: the final NL wildcard, still one game over Miami, two

1970
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 8: and a half games up on the Reds, and it

1971
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 8: was a great weekend for Texas. They've now won five

1972
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 8: in a row after beating Seattle again nine to eight.

1973
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:47,879
Speaker 2: Back to you, great Stepsteve appreciated tonight, Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph,

1974
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, So glad you're with us tire rack

1975
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. Kyle, what do you think about this? Now,

1976
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a lengthy quote, It's not

1977
01:46:55,800 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 2: that long, but get the flavor of the bears SLocker room. So,

1978
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 2: after being asked about the thirty one point loss today,

1979
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 2: Justin Fields immediately jumped into quote what he's learned these

1980
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 2: last few weeks.

1981
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 3: Listen to this. Tell me what you think, Kyle quote.

1982
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it like the big picture life in general.

1983
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think this past week

1984
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 2: has had me kind of look at it like, what

1985
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 2: are the important things in life? Because you know, when

1986
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,799
Speaker 2: things are going good, you feel me not say whatever.

1987
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 2: I think These past couple of weeks have made me

1988
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 2: appreciate the little things in life.

1989
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 3: Like being able to play this game.

1990
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 2: Every opportunity I get to go out there and play,

1991
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have fun. I'm gonna play my hardest and

1992
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 2: just thank God for giving me the ability to play.

1993
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 2: So no matter what the scoreboard is, I'm gonna keep

1994
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 2: doing the same mindset and just pushing to keep moving forward.

1995
01:47:55,560 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 2: End quote justin fields. I don't want to say sound

1996
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 2: like I'm saying there's anything wrong with any of that.

1997
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 2: It's wonderful perspective when it sounds like that after week three,

1998
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yay. That that that's that sounds like someone

1999
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 2: who has been defeated in terms of the competitive nature

2000
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 2: of what you guys are doing.

2001
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 4: That's exactly the word that I was going to use,

2002
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 4: just defeated. Uh.

2003
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 5: You know, those those are the answers I've been in

2004
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 5: those interviews plenty of times throughout my career. We all

2005
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 5: know what the vibe is, what the feelings are in

2006
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 5: those locker rooms at that time. We all I've talked

2007
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 5: about the pride of the men across our league and

2008
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 5: in those locker rooms, and how you know it doesn't

2009
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 5: matter if you're zero and three, you still believe we

2010
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 5: truly week in and week out. All right, all we

2011
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:58,600
Speaker 5: gotta do is go get a win, and then you know,

2012
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 5: we'll get hot and we'll be one in seven like

2013
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions were last year, and then go rattle

2014
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 5: off a bunch of wins and play a meaningful game

2015
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 5: in Week eighteen with a chance to go to the playoffs.

2016
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Speaker 5: That's just that's the mindset of professional athletes. That's what

2017
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 5: guys think about. That's the way we approach the game.

2018
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 5: So to hear to hear that quote, I get what

2019
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 5: he's saying, and that's ultimately I think what he's getting

2020
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 5: at like, it doesn't matter the scoreboard, it doesn't.

2021
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 4: Matter our record.

2022
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:30,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go out there, I'm gonna have fun, I'm

2023
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 5: gonna prepare to play the best I can play, and

2024
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 5: ultimately go try to win games. But it's like, again,

2025
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 5: I keep going back to this. At some point, we

2026
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 5: need to see confidence instilled in that offense, and not

2027
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 5: during press conferences, not the GM at a press conference,

2028
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 5: not the quarterback at a press conference. We need to

2029
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 5: see it on the field on Sunday. You know, it's

2030
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 5: incredible perspective. I'd love to see it during the course

2031
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 5: of a game and we go out there and see

2032
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 5: that offense start to build confidence from the openers through

2033
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 5: the first quarter, the first half, and ultimately for four quarters.

2034
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing is just such a head scratcher

2035
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 2: because it felt like they found something last year.

2036
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 3: Was it ideal?

2037
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 2: No, we all know that in the NFL, if as

2038
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 2: a quarterback, if Option one is running the ball, you're

2039
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 2: in trouble. Everybody's too fast, the injury rate is just

2040
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,639
Speaker 2: too high. But there were moments in the second half

2041
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:50,640
Speaker 2: of last year where it really felt like, man, we

2042
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:56,759
Speaker 2: have found we have found something that is so athletically gifted.

2043
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 3: Here in the way.

2044
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:01,879
Speaker 2: Justin can sort of nab a gate an open field.

2045
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 2: And if we just I think we all thought the

2046
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 2: same thing. Put some weapons around this guy and it'll

2047
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 2: be it'll be totally different. And oh, by the way,

2048
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 2: give him a defense and he got DJ Moore. But

2049
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 2: outside of that, it's not really all that different of

2050
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 2: a group, and the defense is stopping no One. So

2051
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,839
Speaker 2: I still don't think they're anywhere near sort of providing

2052
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 2: him what he needs. But what's so concerning is it

2053
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 2: just it looks like everything we saw at the end

2054
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 2: of last year got bottled back up.

2055
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 3: I don't know where it went well.

2056
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 5: And again I go back to just what I see

2057
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 5: from this offense throughout the course of the game, and.

2058
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great.

2059
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 5: You traded the first overall pick and you got a

2060
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 5: bunch of draft picks for it, and you got DJ

2061
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 5: Moore and he was supposed to come in and help

2062
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 5: justin fields and be somebody that we can get. He

2063
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 5: had three catches today. He got to the ball three

2064
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 5: times in a game where you threw it twenty two times.

2065
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 5: If that's going to be the guy, get in the

2066
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 5: ball ten times, fourteen times a game. It's better than

2067
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 5: turning around and handing it off down thirty four to nothing.

2068
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 4: You know, let's get this guy the ball.

2069
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 5: Let's get creative ways, get him involved in the screen game,

2070
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 5: maybe motion him into the backfield and hand them the ball.

2071
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 5: He's a guy that can do all those different kinds

2072
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 5: of things. We saw it during his time in Carolina,

2073
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:35,759
Speaker 5: but we're not seeing any of that from this offense.

2074
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 5: They're putting way too much pressure on this young quarterback

2075
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 5: to do things that he didn't do last year. And

2076
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,639
Speaker 5: that's why they had success because they did things differently.

2077
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 5: And yes, it's not good when the number one option

2078
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 5: is running the quarterback. But I will say when you

2079
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 5: have a quarterback that can run. We saw it in

2080
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 5: Philly last year. When you have a quarterback who can

2081
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 5: run the football, it makes everything else so much harder

2082
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 5: to defend. And there are so many different things you

2083
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,799
Speaker 5: can do in the past game off of the quarterback

2084
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 5: being able to run the football that I know justin

2085
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 5: Fields can do. We've seen him do it. They just

2086
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:24,559
Speaker 5: have they have to get it in the offense. Again,

2087
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 5: I just can't understand why it's hand off to the

2088
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 5: running back, drop back pass.

2089
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 4: You know, we're not.

2090
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 5: Doing anything to play to this young quarterback's strengths. It is,

2091
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 5: it is what it is. You drafted him, everybody's buying

2092
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 5: into him. We're saying that he's he's taking ownership. He's

2093
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 5: doing all the right things. That's amazing, that's great. Can

2094
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 5: we please start taking ownership ourselves and start giving this

2095
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 5: You put the guys around him, now, start calling the plays,

2096
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 5: and get him in a system that equips him to

2097
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 5: use those players. Now you go through the list there,

2098
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 5: Dj Moore three catches, Cole Comet two catches, Chase Claypole,

2099
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 5: who they traded for one catch. It doesn't those aren't.

2100
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about guys that are. Tyreek Hill got

2101
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 5: to throw the ball down the field.

2102
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Speaker 4: You know.

2103
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:19,439
Speaker 5: Cole Comet's a big inline tight end. We can get

2104
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 5: the ball to him around the line of scrimmage. Chase

2105
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 5: Claypole's a big body, wide receiver. Just give him fifty

2106
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 5: to fifty balls. Have trusted him that he'll go up

2107
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 5: and make the catch or no one will. So when

2108
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 5: you see five six catches between those three guys that

2109
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 5: are supposed to be your three guys helping your young

2110
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 5: quarterback out in a game that you lost by thirty

2111
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Speaker 5: one points.

2112
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 4: That's that's tough.

2113
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you're in trouble, Mark Ward, Kyle Rudolph, glad

2114
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Speaker 2: you're with us tonight. Coming up next, in addition to

2115
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Speaker 2: the Play of the Day, we got two games still

2116
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 2: ahead tomorrow night. Is this Bucks thing for real? And

2117
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Speaker 2: is this Bengals problem for real? All of that is

2118
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Speaker 2: Packers rally from seventeen down all in the fourth quarter

2130
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Speaker 2: to win eighteen seventeen. And I know we talked about

2131
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley earlier, Kyle, but a win for analytics, right,

2132
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 2: the Packers did that thing where it was seventeen to three,

2133
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 2: and then they scored a touchdown and they went for two,

2134
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of longtime fans are like,

2135
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 2: what what are you doing? And then they got it,

2136
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 2: and so it was seventeen to eleven. And then when

2137
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 2: they got that second touchdown, poof winning the.

2138
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 3: Game was as easy as kicking an extra point.

2139
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 2: Then again, they also needed a missfield goal from the

2140
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 2: other team to make it stand up, but they got it.

2141
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 3: And all's well that ends.

2142
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's funny. I feel like there's so

2143
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 5: much that goes into analytics. I think after you said

2144
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 5: the two point conversion, there was five other things that

2145
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 5: had to happen in order for that to work out

2146
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 5: the way. And it's just again that's where I feel like,

2147
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 5: you know, I was raised through the NFL with a

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Speaker 5: head coach and Mike Zimmer, who was Bill Parcell's descendant.

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Speaker 5: You know, we really we spent so much time practicing

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Speaker 5: and going through the last ten minutes of the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I feel like I've played out every situation,

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Speaker 5: whether in practice or in games at some point, and

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Speaker 5: you know, yeah, sometimes analytics work. I think oftentimes it's

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Speaker 5: just knowing knowing ball, and you know, you got to

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Speaker 5: you gotta have a feel for your team. I think

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Speaker 5: analytics don't. They're not on the sideline. They don't have

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Speaker 5: a pulse for the guys and either how the momentum

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Speaker 5: is going at that current time or how it's not.

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Speaker 5: And again that's where I go back to the Chargers Vikings.

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Speaker 5: What's the pulse on that sideline. Clearly it was, Hey,

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Speaker 5: we need to get this one yard so we can

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Speaker 5: kneel out the rest of the game and not put

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Speaker 5: our defense back out there on the field. Otherwise you

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Speaker 5: punt the football ten times out of ten, and then

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Speaker 5: you know, in this situation, you're like, hey, got the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: he's got a hot hand. We just went down the

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Speaker 5: field scored a touchdown. We'll get the two point conversion now,

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Speaker 5: and then we can just kick the extra point or

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Speaker 5: we have another chance to go for two and potentially

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Speaker 5: tie the game. So you know, it's like, hey, you

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Speaker 5: got you got two chances there to go for two.

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Speaker 5: If you get one of them, you either win the

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Speaker 5: game because you kick the extra point, or you missed

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Speaker 5: the first one. You got to go for two again

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Speaker 5: and tie at seventeen seventeen. So you know, it is

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Speaker 5: a good call in my opinion, you go for two

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Speaker 5: there because you have more time, Whereas again on the

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Speaker 5: on the charger side late in the there's a minute

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Speaker 5: and forty seconds left or a minute and fifty seconds left,

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Speaker 5: whatever it was in the game, it's not really a

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Speaker 5: whole lot of time to fix it. If you don't

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Speaker 5: get it and they turn around and go right down

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Speaker 5: the field twenty five yards and score the game winning touchdown,

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Speaker 5: you're not gonna have a chance to answer. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: in theory, score that second two point conversion. That the

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Speaker 5: Packers would have had a chance to run had they

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Speaker 5: not got the first one.

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Speaker 2: We'rethetirack dot Com Studios, Mark Ward, Kyle Rudolph, Hey, just

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Speaker 2: about a minute left. How big of a problem are

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Speaker 2: the Bengals facing and how real are the Bucks?

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Speaker 3: Let's check it out tomorrow night.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think the biggest problem that the Bengals

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Speaker 5: are facing are Joe's caff that it's a finicky injury

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Speaker 5: that seems to reaggravate so often. It's something that he's

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Speaker 5: gonna deal with for a long time. So I think

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Speaker 5: that's the biggest problem they're facing. In Cincinnati is the

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Speaker 5: highest paid player in the NFL's health. And then in Tampa,

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Speaker 5: I think they they found the recipe for success. They

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Speaker 5: know they can go out there and play good defense

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Speaker 5: with the talent they have on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: Baker's not turning the ball over, He's taking.

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Speaker 4: Care of the ball.

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Speaker 5: You see Tristan Worf's on the left side getting more

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Speaker 5: comfortable week in and week out. And it's a team

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Speaker 5: that has two, in my mind, incredible receivers. And Mike

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Speaker 5: Evans and Chris Godwin. Those are guys that give you

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Speaker 5: a chance as a quarterback. Just put the ball anywhere

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Speaker 5: near him. They're gonna make you look good, and that's

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Speaker 5: what they've done through two weeks. They got a real

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Speaker 5: test tomorrow night, though, with that front.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, it's gonna be an interesting one. Man. Can't

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Speaker 3: wait to talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: For Kyle Rudolph, I'm Mark Willard as we come down

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Speaker 2: the stretch here on a football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.