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Speaker 1: My guest today is actress, singer, and podcast host Jana Kramer.

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Speaker 1: We dive into a deep conversation about past relationships, co parenting,

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Speaker 1: and more. Jana's new book, The Next Chapter, Making Peace

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Speaker 1: with Hard Memories, Finding Hope All Around Me and Clearing

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Speaker 1: Space for Good Things to Come, comes out in October

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth and is available for pre order. Now, this

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Speaker 1: is just be with Jana Kramer. Let's get into it. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Hi lady, how are you? I'm good? How are you wonderful?

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Speaker 1: So that is your podcast setup? It's beautiful. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's a little messy now that I'm looking at it,

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Speaker 2: but thanks girl.

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Speaker 1: Are you in La? No?

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Speaker 2: I just moved into a new house in Nashville. How

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Speaker 2: is Nashville? I love it, I really do. I've been

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Speaker 2: here now, let's see four years, and it's great.

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Speaker 1: Is it like a mini La? Now?

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately it's becoming that way really like that's almost everybody

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Speaker 2: in my neighborhood is from California. But I will say

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Speaker 2: the good piece of that is they're bringing in really

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Speaker 2: good restaurants and they're they're having to up their Southern

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Speaker 2: game a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. So okay, so the first interaction besides Friday Night

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Speaker 1: Lights that I've had with you was I think I

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Speaker 1: commented on something on a post and you commented back.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we're friends now, Like I remember, like

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Speaker 1: or then you followed me. I followed you, and that

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Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago. It was like surrounding

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Speaker 1: Jay Cutler and I don't know what I commented, but

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Speaker 1: there was like an interaction that we had and you

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Speaker 1: were on my radar and I then connected, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that's the girl from Friday Night Lights, which I was

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Speaker 1: obsessed with my daughter. I got her into it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of the greatest shows ever.

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Speaker 2: It was one of my favorite shows I've ever done,

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Speaker 2: and it was it was one of those things where

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Speaker 2: because a lot of times it's shows you know there,

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Speaker 2: they'll be like, well, here's your mark, you have to

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Speaker 2: hit your mark. And I remember the first time I

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Speaker 2: went on set, they're like, all right, action, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: but we didn't rehearse and we didn't, like, where's my

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Speaker 2: mark and they're.

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Speaker 3: Like, just just go and I'm like, oh, okay.

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Speaker 2: Like it was the coolest thing because it was wait,

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Speaker 2: what is it mark?

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Speaker 1: The physical mark? What do you mean hit my mark?

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Speaker 2: What's there's like a t in acting where you have

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Speaker 2: to do camera blocking and then you know the things,

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Speaker 2: and then you have to hit literally your mark so

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Speaker 2: the camera can get you. But in frint night lights,

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Speaker 2: they're all on the handheld, so they'll they'll get you

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Speaker 2: wherever you stand.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, but that's funny that that's a thing. Where's

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Speaker 1: my mark? I never I see I know what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about when we do photoshoots, but I didn't literally

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Speaker 1: know you meant oh funny. Yeah, I think it was

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Speaker 1: such an excellent show. Yeah, whose show was it? Peter

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Speaker 1: Berg's exactly? I just watched his. Uh his show on

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Speaker 1: on opioids was crazy, same killer. That was insane, insane.

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Speaker 1: I'm so angry about I know because I'm like that person.

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Speaker 1: They kept blaming the addicts, so I'm like, he wasn't

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Speaker 1: an addict. He hurt his back and then he became

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Speaker 1: an addict and they paid like a billion dollars over time.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even feel a mark's And he must be

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Speaker 1: angry and he must have a personal association to it

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Speaker 1: because it was a very personal show. What was that

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Speaker 1: that wasn't on Netflix? Where was the Hulu.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Netflix, and then Taylor Kitch was

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Speaker 2: also in it, who was Frid. He always uses Taylor

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Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, yeah with Peter, Yeah, he uses him

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, were you did you when you

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Speaker 1: were on set with him? Did you die?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Was he as gorgeous then to you as he was

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Speaker 1: to me? He was so cool?

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Speaker 2: We became like very like Broie where when we first

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Speaker 2: met we would play volleyball after set. There was like

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Speaker 1: So he was awesome, I would say as an adult,

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Speaker 1: like as a kid, it was Matt Dillan as an

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Speaker 1: one that was the one that hurt was painful? Yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I was reading your bio and I was shocked

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Speaker 1: of like this circuitous route to yes, your career, but

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking about what your childhood was like,

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Speaker 1: the mistakes I've been in many relationships like you, and

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Speaker 1: I feel self conscious about it. Sometimes I was wondering

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Speaker 1: thinking about this, this relationship and personal life journey.

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Speaker 2: So it's when I've sat down. Obviously, in therapy, you

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Speaker 2: Where was my first belief? And it was when I

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Speaker 2: and because it was my dad, from those years on,

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Speaker 2: I was always trying to get the approval of a man.

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Speaker 2: But those are the guys that were never going to

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Speaker 2: So I just kept picking those kind of men to

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Speaker 2: be like, choose me, love me, pick me, because I

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Speaker 1: And now that you're going to change them, because you

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Speaker 2: Right, Like he's not like try to get him to

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Speaker 2: a bigger, broader stance.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So it's I see now that my dad was just

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Speaker 1: But you just said something that I have said until recently,

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Speaker 1: I thought the other night it was actually weird. It

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Speaker 1: know the whole situation. I'm just asking because it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: You just said that thing that I always say, and

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Speaker 2: For a long time, no, I would say that he didn't.

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Speaker 2: And again, I grew up in a very angry household.

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Speaker 2: My dad was always yelling, My parents were always fighting.

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Speaker 2: He was he had some massive anger issues, and my

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Speaker 2: My mom stayed in it, and it was just that

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Speaker 2: Well, my grandpa was a very tough German Man. He

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Speaker 2: physical as well. And I think back then, like our generation,

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Speaker 2: Would I have love for him to go to therapy?

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, you just it wasn't. There wasn't also,

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Speaker 1: quote unquote the conversation in society. It wasn't a conversation

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Speaker 1: about what we're People weren't indulging themselves by thinking about

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Speaker 2: And I for so long, I mean, all my twenties

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Speaker 2: my dad and I just had this conversation because we're

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Speaker 2: good now. He's so anxiously attached and he's like trying

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, you gotta let me breathe for a second,

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Speaker 2: Like stop asking me about my middle school boyfriend. I

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Speaker 2: had no idea what happened to him, you know, like

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Speaker 1: So hard to be evolved and like do the cram

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just like you can, we can sit

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Speaker 2: just like your kids, Yes, I accept them. And that's

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I want my kids to have a relationship

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Speaker 2: do it perfectly every day? No? But I have my

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Speaker 2: change them at this stage, and I don't see them

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Speaker 2: going to therapy. So it's like I either have them

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Speaker 1: And I think the dynamic of you controlling the boundaries

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is like, I love my kids

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's listen. I could harp and I did

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Speaker 2: Now let's just can we just please be happy? And

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Speaker 1: And so I just say, holding on to anger is

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just because I've seen people like I know

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Speaker 1: It's it's the worst thing I did. I've done it

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Speaker 2: No, I don't, like that's the thing. Like, and I've

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's what's the message that you're carrying around

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense, well, you're right, because I wrote

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Speaker 1: But many people subconsciously think that's what they deserve, so

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Speaker 1: It goes it leads into every moment of a day,

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Speaker 1: Also it's with family members too, like to just not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to give yourself it's also it's it's hard,

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Speaker 2: And also it can be boring if you're used to

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Speaker 1: Like I deserve peace. Yeah, yeah, and it can be safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's weird. Yes, he's a hurricane coming. Where's it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I kept saying, I go, I must be dying because

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Speaker 1: what as you are? I would say actress.

437
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 2: That's what it started in because One Tree Hill was

438
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,479
Speaker 2: kind of what led me into country music, and now

439
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 2: I just do music for fun and just kind of

440
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 2: a therapy tool and just to kind of keep things spinning.

441
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 2: And I do like writing and singing, but acting is

442
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 2: my is my number one. I'd love to get back

443
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 2: on a show that runs for years and years. That's

444
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 2: the dream.

445
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: That's the dream because it's consistent and solid. It's like,

446
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 1: you just know, I'm not very much like I want

447
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 1: to provide for my family. So I keep telling where

448
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 1: most actors don't think it. Procedural is is creative enough.

449
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, get me on a procedural that runs for

450
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 2: twenty years like I want it. I need to provide

451
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: for my children. I had like a study job, you know.

452
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 2: So I get that.

453
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 1: That's why Kelly Rippa wanted to do the show. She

454
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 1: wanted to just know that every day she knew where

455
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 1: she was going to be. And what part does religion

456
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: play in your life?

457
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: You know that that's a tough piece because again I've

458
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 2: always gone to well, I grew up not in a

459
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 2: we said grace, but it was something that was recited.

460
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know the you know, God is good,

461
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,199
Speaker 1: God is great, lest thing for a food that was

462
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 1: it like nothing was taken to heart with it. We

463
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: didn't go to church besides like once a year, and

464
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: for me, I always went to well, how why would

465
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 1: I pray to a father when a father leaves? So

466
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 1: that was my big thing. I was like, I don't

467
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: he's just going to abandon me. He's just gonna leave.

468
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm probably not good enough for him anyways, or I've

469
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: messed up here, I'm and it was.

470
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 3: It took me.

471
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 2: It took till my divorce that I really was like, Okay,

472
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm alone, Like I'm just I am straight up alone,

473
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: and I don't want to be. I know he's there.

474
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 2: So it was I started a relationship with him post divorce,

475
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 2: and it was one of the best things for me

476
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 2: because I realized he was always there, he was just

477
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: waiting for me to let him in.

478
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's powerful. That's almost like the good man

479
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: in your life waiting for you to let them in.

480
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: Why get married again?

481
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: Legally married girl, I'm just like a glutton for punishment.

482
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: No I, no I.

483
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: I First of all, I love this man so much,

484
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 2: and he's the guy that I everything I wrote about

485
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: I wrote like in my Bible, like the man, I'm like,

486
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: please just send me this man. And it's every single

487
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 2: check mark that it's like what I wrote in my

488
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: bible about him. And for me personally, well, you know,

489
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 2: obviously when you look at Wikipedia. My first time, I

490
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: didn't even know the guy. I went to Vegas. I

491
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: was nineteen years old, and I'm not making excuses. But

492
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's another one was we were

493
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 2: married for one week, you know, I really that was

494
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: That was the one of the ones where I was like,

495
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: love me, love me, And then when I was walking

496
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: down the aisle, I was like, wait, I don't love

497
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: you like this is this wasn't one I was chasing you,

498
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: and I don't this isn't what I want. I don't

499
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: want to have kids, you know, I don't want a

500
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: broken family. So for me, I only feel like I've

501
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: been married, true, because truly the other ones were a

502
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: week and you know, two weeks, and so Mike was

503
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: my only marriage, like we fought hard for seven years,

504
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: like that was a marriage. And but with Alan, like

505
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: I just he's I just want to I want to

506
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 2: marry him. I want him, I want our family to

507
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: be together. I want everything that I that I dreamt about,

508
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 2: and with him, it just feels like the right thing

509
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: to do. I said I wouldn't again. I said, there's

510
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: no way I'll change my name again. I won't get married.

511
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: But with him, it's He's the only one I've ever

512
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: wanted to walk down the aisle to. And it makes

513
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: me sad. I'm like, I wish I saved that for you,

514
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: because that's what I love.

515
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: I get that. I get that. And what's the state

516
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: of your career now, Like, what are you the most

517
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: passionate about, what are you working on? What do you

518
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: want to be when.

519
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: You grow up?

520
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: Well, almost forty, So what I want obviously, I want

521
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: this baby to come out healthy and enjoy the holidays

522
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 2: with the baby, and then next year I would just

523
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: love to be able again to just get on a

524
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: show and support my children and you know, be a

525
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: working mom, but be the best mom that I can

526
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: be as well, So be on a show, and then

527
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: you know, I have the book coming out in October,

528
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: the next chapter and be able to just do everything

529
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: that I love. I don't like to I always say,

530
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: people always put me in a box. Well I was

531
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: the one putting myself in a box. So now I'm like,

532
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: I want to do it all. I want to you

533
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: know have I love doing my wind down podcasts. I

534
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: like writing, I like singing, I like acting. So it's

535
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: just putting and and you know and acting the things

536
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: off that are weighing me down. And would you move

537
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: back to la to do a show because it feels

538
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: like that sounds stressful having a new baby and a

539
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: you know, a partner. And does he have to be

540
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: in Nashville or so he's a he's a professional soccer coach,

541
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: so he'll be traveling too. And for me, I think

542
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 2: you can make I will I never never. I never

543
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: say never never, you know, I never say never. And

544
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: so if it takes me somewhere amazing, that just means

545
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 2: a new experience for the family. So I'm he's so

546
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: good with that. Yeah, and and yeah, because he'll be

547
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: he'll be traveling too.

548
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: So I invested in a women's the women's soccer league,

549
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: the the Bass anyone who, Yeah, Cheryl Samberg just joined

550
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: on several months back. And it's a big it's a

551
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: big world, this this women in soccer.

552
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of suffer around them, but yeah,

553
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: you guys need a coach Alan Russell.

554
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: He's a good one, all right. Nice.

555
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: What about well, your kids into soccer? Yeah, they love

556
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: it and he's okay, so sweet helping them. So what

557
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: about the the leggings a pregnant thing? Like I read

558
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 2: that you can't live without your leggings, and it sounds

559
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: like a superficial question, but I'm not. I have leggings

560
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: and I'll wear them once in a while, but I don't.

561
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm not a leggings person because I feel like they

562
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: trap me. So I want to understand. And the only

563
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: ones that didn't were beyond leggings because there's the breath

564
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: beyond yoga. These are the beyond yoga ones. Oh, Jody

565
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: Goober owns the company. I used to be friends with her. Yeah,

566
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: so these are these are the only ones that I'll

567
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: wear is beyond yoga. And that's what these are because

568
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: they're just super people.

569
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

570
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 2: Because and I like the over the bump too, so

571
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: and they can't see if some wearing black. But I'm

572
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: working out right after this, which is also why I'm

573
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: in leggings. But it's it's a little chilly today in Nashville.

574
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: But I mean, I have got a couple of pairs,

575
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: but I'm not like I like sweatshirts like I do.

576
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 3: Like to be cozy. Yeah, I like the whole match.

577
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Are you you've been exercising the whole pregnancy. How is

578
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: your pregnancy?

579
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been working out and uh, it's fine, you know, girl,

580
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: I'm just older, so everything's a little harder, you know,

581
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: And everything's just the gravity and the veins down there.

582
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, babe, don't don't look past the belly button.

583
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: Like it's just like I don't like it.

584
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: So will he be in the room?

585
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: Oh, one million percent. He's like my anxiety blanket. He's

586
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: so good with me because I go to, Oh my gosh,

587
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I don't like to not feel my legs

588
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: for the epidural. So but he's just he's we're already

589
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: working on our breathing like he's he's the best.

590
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: But he'll be up there, not down there.

591
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: Oh up, up, up up.

592
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: He's not going to be down there.

593
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeh, Because I mean I'm having I'm having the C section,

594
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: so oh okay.

595
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: I had one too. And then where were you a waitress?

596
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: That's the weirdest last question, but I want to where

597
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: you were a waitress girlfriend.

598
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: Where wasn't I a waitress?

599
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: So I started.

600
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: I started at Greek Island and then I went to

601
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: TGI Fridays, and then I went to Macaroni Grill, and

602
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: then I went to Joe's Crabshot because I wanted to

603
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: dance and I thought it was cute because they do

604
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: all like the like dance things. And then I was

605
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: a waitress at the time w Times Square when I

606
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: was eighteen. And then I was a waitress at the

607
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: Grove at the wood Ranch Grill which is now closed

608
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: in La I stole toilet paper from there because I

609
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: didn't have any money.

610
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: So was it bad quality the toilet paper? Yeah? Yeah,

611
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: it was crap. It was like, you know, the kind

612
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: of like crumble, but I needed it. I didn't even care,

613
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: I know, I in my past. I think in my past,

614
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: like being in a cheap apartment, I'd been like, you know,

615
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: when you are at a toilet paper and it's just convenient.

616
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you could have afforded the eighty eight cents

617
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: for toy, but it was convenient probably just to stick

618
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: it in your purse.

619
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

620
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: And I was in the red all twenties, so it

621
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: was yeah, that or cotton balls, which is gross. But

622
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: and then let's see what else after wood Ranch I did.

623
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: I got fired at Pach's because I didn't know how

624
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: to open a wine bottle, which is ironic because now.

625
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: Wait, Patcha was your first one that was fancy. All

626
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: the rest are like very chain restaurant. Patcha is like

627
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: an automation for you. And I got fired because you

628
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: don't to open a wine bottle. Yeah, I'm like, jokes

629
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: on you, buddy, I'm a pro.

630
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: No.

631
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: And what was the first gig that you got?

632
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: Click with Adam Sandler. That's a big gig to get

633
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 2: as your first gig. He was amazing.

634
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: I was.

635
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: I went out to audition for his daughter and it

636
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: was between me and Katie Cassidy and the little girl.

637
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: He brought me into his office and met him and

638
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: he was fantastic Adam Yeah.

639
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: Wow. So you know Adam Sandler.

640
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the coolest dude ever. I'm sure I don't

641
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: know if he remembers me, although he did leave me

642
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: a voice message like when I was at the top

643
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: of the charts and country music about like, oh my

644
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: kids love your music and it was supercab. Yeah, he

645
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: was like the nicest dude ever. But yeah, then he

646
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: he himself personally called him, called me and said, hey,

647
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: so the girl that the little girl, my little daughter

648
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: in the movie has blonde hair. So we're going to

649
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: go with Katie, but I'm going to find you apart

650
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: because I really like you and you're great, and so yeah,

651
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: he gave me it was a smaller role, but I

652
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: didn't even care.

653
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: I was just like, that's amazing, I'll do catering.

654
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: I don't care.

655
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: Like that was your first ever time, like on a

656
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: real set. Yeah, and then what was after that.

657
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: Prom night?

658
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: So you working like you always? Like, how long after

659
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: starting did you like get work?

660
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't until One Tree Hill that I stayed out

661
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: of the Red like I would be I would have

662
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: to get a job, and then it could I'd be like,

663
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: oh shoot, I'm back in the Red, back to waitressing.

664
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 2: And then One Tree Hill is when the constant when

665
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: I when I started to like really work.

666
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to. I used to be a PA

667
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: on Saved by the Bell and I met Lea Remeni

668
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: and she I thought she was rich because she was

669
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: on a couple of guest episodes on Saved by the Bell,

670
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget. I feel like we were eating

671
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: in her car for some reason that's like really resonating,

672
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like I thought you rich, And she said, well,

673
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: if like eating tacos in the back of your car

674
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: is rich or something, I shill never forget like having

675
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 1: an interaction with her because I thought, if you were

676
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: on camera you were rich.

677
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

678
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: No, you know, it's like crazy being rich and being

679
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: on TV or not the same thing as I'm sure

680
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: the strike is proving. Yeah, and like when you go

681
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: on tour, everyone thought because I was, I'd open for

682
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Blake Shelton and all these big people for you know,

683
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: three months at a time, and oh, you must have

684
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: so much money, and like I am actually negative about

685
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: one hundred grand because of how much it costs to

686
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: be on a tour, oh tour bus and pay for

687
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: gas and the band members and I'm only getting paid

688
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred bucks a night, so all that and

689
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of marvelous, Miss masl Like that show is

690
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: kind of about that, Like she's like famous, but she's

691
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: not making any money. And yeah, I mean, you don't

692
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: really get treated a certain way until you really hit it.

693
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: Like if I tell my daughter that I was on

694
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, because if One Tree Hill and

695
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights, we still watch One Tree Hill all

696
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: the time like it's beyond it holds up. Great show?

697
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: That really up. They did a show. Hold up, they

698
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: both hold up. What was your rose and your thorn

699
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: of your career? I rose in my thorn. That's a

700
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: good one. Uh, I would say.

701
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: My thorn was this movie I did called The Return

702
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: of the Living Dead, and I had to have I

703
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: wrote about it in the next chapter two. It is

704
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: the first time I ever had a panic attack. But

705
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: I had to get my appendix taken out in Romania.

706
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: But it wasn't They took out the wrong They took

707
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: out the wrong organ. Wait in the movie, no, like

708
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: in real life? What because that sounds like something would

709
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: happen in Return of the Living Dead, I know. And

710
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: then like I know, they put the wrong they put

711
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: somebody else's organ in your body and then you live

712
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: but you're dead.

713
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like a great plot.

714
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: I know.

715
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: So I wrote about that in the book and it

716
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: was Yeah, that was that was appendix taken out in Romania.

717
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they did, they were It was never my

718
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: appendix that was the problem was, Actually they should have

719
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: taken out my gallbladder. It's it's like a whole thing

720
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ was experience. It sounds pretty serious, sounds like

721
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: those are two important parts.

722
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: You really don't need either. But I'm also like, well,

723
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: why did God give it? Give them to us then

724
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: if we didn't need it? But what do you have

725
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: now in the body? I mean I got a uterus,

726
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: I have a You don't have a gallbladder or an appendix. No,

727
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated. I didn't know.

728
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

729
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: Sound they sound important when you say them, the names,

730
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: they sound important. They're like big words. Wow. Okay, so

731
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: you're without those? Put them in your dating profile? No,

732
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing, I'm done. I'm done.

733
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: This is it?

734
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah back in the day, Yeah, mindset, I only sought

735
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: the small stuff. Yours, says girl without an appendix or

736
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: gall bladder? Yeah, wow, Yeah, that's I mean, it's not hysterical,

737
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: but that's hysterical, you know.

738
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: What I'm I know, I'm not even trying to be

739
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: super publicity with this one or trying to promote it,

740
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: but I would say I'm just so proud of the

741
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: book that I'm about to put out because everything that

742
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been through, it's uh, I'm proud

743
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: that I actually I never thought I could write my

744
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: own book, and it was very much My editors were like,

745
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: you should get a ghost writer, and I'm like, I

746
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: need to write this myself. And that was something that

747
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm just really proud of.

748
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: So that you should be. That's another Kelly rip of things.

749
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: She wrote her whole book herself. I found it to

750
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: be extremely impressive, like it's something that requires help and

751
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: you did it yourself.

752
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just was.

753
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: I think it was because my ax when we wrote

754
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: our first book, he had said, well, you know, you

755
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: can't write. You talk like you you type, and I'm like,

756
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: well I do and that's what makes it like me

757
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: and people would reallyize meaning you write like you talk

758
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: like the words on the poet. Yeah, like you know,

759
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: and so not perfectly formed. But I just I had

760
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: to prove it to myself that I could do it.

761
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: And that's just kind of always been my personality too.

762
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: But how long did it take a long time? No,

763
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean took it like two years. That sounds about

764
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: write though, I mean it's not that he used to

765
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: write a book. Yeah, here to write.

766
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: I had a year to edit it.

767
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: But I also will say it was because I went back.

768
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: I was very angry when I started it, and then

769
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: I went back and I go, I don't need to

770
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: put that story in there. I don't need to put

771
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: that in there. I don't need to put that in

772
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: there that's interesting. So I went back and I edit

773
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: it because I just was like, it's the father of

774
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: my kids. I don't need to be telling these kind

775
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: of stories. That's our past so interesting. Yeah, not everything

776
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: needs to be said. I burned a whole book in

777
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: the barbecue and started over when I did a place

778
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: of yes, yeah, because it's just like, what is the

779
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: point with that? And it's at the end of the day,

780
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: it's not about None of these books are about any

781
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: of my exes. Like I've got this one ex boyfriend

782
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 2: that's trying to be like, oh, I was just talking

783
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: about me the book, and I'm like, buddy, the book

784
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: is not about you. It's nothing to You might have

785
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: a little blip in my but it has nothing to

786
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: do with you. It's everything to do about me and

787
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: like the choices that I made and the missteps and whatever.

788
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: So don't try to get your pr but like no,

789
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: like don't flat about you. It's not a Taylor Swift song.

790
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 3: No.

791
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: And then what is your parenting style?

792
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: This is where I struggle And I actually just had

793
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: therapy about this because sometimes I feel like I'm a

794
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: little too hard. I didn't have the parent that pushed

795
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: me to be the best version of myself. Like if

796
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: I didn't want to take my essayts or my acts,

797
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: or if I was a C average student, they'd be like,

798
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: great job. So I never really was pushed, and so

799
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: I think now I'm on the other pendulum swing of

800
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: that being like work harder and you know. So I'm

801
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: trying to find a balance right now of being of yeah,

802
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: of not being too hard, but I'm also very loving

803
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: and all those things. But I just I see the

804
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: potential in my children and I just want them to

805
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: have all the opportunities.

806
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: Are you strict?

807
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: I definitely discipline, Like they're not kids that you know,

808
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: every time I go to the store they get a

809
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: toy or if it's something that I will take something

810
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: away like I do.

811
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 3: I am.

812
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: I despise And this is the biggest fight to this

813
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: day that my ex and I get into. I hate technology.

814
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't like iPads. I don't want them to phones.

815
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't want any of it. I think it's bad

816
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: for their little brains.

817
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: Oh I know.

818
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, they go to his house and they're

819
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: watching them for six hours, and I'm like, this is

820
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: not okay.

821
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: And she's not a tech kid. My kid, she has

822
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: obviously phone and she's on it. But there are some

823
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: kids that are literally it's an appendage, and it does

824
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: work being that way because later they're just not it's

825
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: not a crutch. I know so many kids that it

826
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: is an appendage, and I think it's such a turn off.

827
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate it. I don't like seeing kids.

828
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: And I know parents have to do they have to

829
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: do when they go to restaurants, but I'm not the

830
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: parent that will at dinner. I'm like saying, talk to

831
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: your kids, tell the color with them at the table,

832
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: do something like that. And again I'm going to get

833
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: probably so hated up for.

834
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: That, but I don't think you will. But no, people

835
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: feel judgment, And yes, that's fine, your choice is to

836
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: not do that, but yes, I know I've It's funny

837
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: because I think I had a post I was going

838
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: to put up the other day and I thought, oh's

839
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: that Judgey because I'm not the path of least. I

840
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: don't want to. But we're not working three jobs. We're

841
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: not waitressing. And I understand giving someone a device so

842
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: you could just have a moment a piece that sounds

843
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: really good, but it's a hard disapoint and to stick

844
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: to you do.

845
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: It Like I'm my mom on the plane room. I'm like,

846
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: here's the flash car. You get your iPad for one

847
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: hour on this four hour so the first.

848
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: Hour that's serious and I'm not knowing that's serious. That's

849
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: very serious. I was like that when she was younger,

850
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: but getting older, I will be on the iPad the

851
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: entire flight. I just that's what that was. The bridge

852
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't cross. That's yeah, that's that's very serious varsity stuff.

853
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: But it's uh yeah, I just I'm like, go outside,

854
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: go play. Like I loved my childhood. I love to

855
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: be able to go outside. And that's just I'm always

856
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: if it is, even if it's raining, I'm like, let's

857
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: go do some chalk in the garage. I don't care. Yeah,

858
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: it puts more on you. Apps you have to do

859
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: more work too, because you're not just throwing it in

860
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: front of the TV. Yeah, and wind down. I hear

861
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: your podcast does really really well and that you're great

862
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: at it.

863
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: Thank you. It's so fun.

864
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: It's also been it's hard because I I still get no,

865
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: it's not as bad, but I still get moments of

866
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: anxiety when I see a headline. I'm like, that's not

867
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: exactly what I said, or that's not the context of this,

868
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: and so good luck. I'm fighting myself to not again.

869
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: I've gotten so much better where I don't feel like

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Speaker 2: I have to defend it anymore, but it still bothers

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Speaker 2: me because it's I'm like, if you just listen, you'll

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Speaker 2: see that wasn't my intent or I didn't mean.

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Speaker 1: It like that, or but that's not an interesting headline.

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Speaker 1: That's my story. Every every single day, page six writes

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Speaker 1: about something I said on TikTok or Instagram, and the

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Speaker 1: headline is always so like Bethany drags Tailor Swift, Like

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Speaker 1: I didn't drag Tailor Swift. I just mentioned that she

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Speaker 1: was on a date with a guy at a game

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Speaker 1: and it looked like they had been together forever, and

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Speaker 1: that women should be reminded to have their own identity.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about like her per se. It was

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Speaker 1: just a vehicle. But it's every day and you cannot

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Speaker 1: kill every bug in Manhattan, so you cannot take the bait.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: I just I still have this.

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Speaker 2: One of my negative traits personality traits, is I want

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent approval, right, So for the people that

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Speaker 2: go on those US weekly things, they're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: can she just shut up already?

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Speaker 1: And she's so annoying, and I'm like, but but get

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Speaker 1: to know me, we'd be friends.

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Speaker 2: Like oh that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if you try to please everybody, you end

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Speaker 1: up pleasing nobody, and you have.

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Speaker 2: To have a point of view and you have to

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Speaker 2: pick a side and a lane and just do it.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, as I'm nearing forty, I'm I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm giving less crap.

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Speaker 1: When you get to fifty, you will give zero. Great

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Speaker 1: I cannot. Yeah, for sure. I was talking to someone

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Speaker 1: about that yesterday. It was so nice to talk to

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Speaker 1: you and to finally get to meet you at hear

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Speaker 1: a lot about you from the girls.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for having me on. I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm like a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: So im so grateful, thank you. I'm well, congratulations on

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Speaker 1: the baby and your relationship and this sort of you know, chapter,

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Speaker 1: the next chapter, and your book, and I wish you

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Speaker 1: the best.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Bethany.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Jays.

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Speaker 1: I have an awesome day, all right, hie girl.

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Speaker 3: See ya,