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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network WESH Alert. Matt Williamson with you here on

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Speaker 2: this Tuesday is Matt the News. The signings continue to

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Speaker 2: fly off the shelf here.

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Speaker 3: Little bit's been slow in my opinion that it's been

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Speaker 3: a little well compared to me apparently speaking, Yeah, obviously,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, it was that the other day of the

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Speaker 3: year would be like, oh, it's a crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's like yesterday was like watching Usain Bolt.

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Speaker 3: Right, we went five minutes without anybody can sign what's

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Speaker 3: going on right here?

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Speaker 2: Everybody looks slow and it's Usain Bolt out of the blocks.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, certainly some more from last night. Something's happened

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Speaker 2: after you and I signed off of the show, and

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Speaker 2: some things have happened this morning. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: all of it, both from the Steelers' perspective and around

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Matt posted a fun mock draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just threw something out there late night that.

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Speaker 2: I actually really liked. We'll discuss that. And now our

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Speaker 2: number two and we are a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: communication breakdown yesterday. But we will have Christian Koons today

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Speaker 2: on the show at the end of the second hour,

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Speaker 2: So looking forward to that and talking to him about

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Speaker 2: his new podcast series on the football legacy of Western Pennsylvania. Matt, though,

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Speaker 2: I think we start with some of our own housekeeping.

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Speaker 2: What has happened, Yeah, Steelers to get where.

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Speaker 3: We left off and all that stuff too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers imports and exports before we go around the league.

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Speaker 2: And a little over an hour after we got off

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Speaker 2: air last night, it was announced that the Steelers have

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Speaker 2: agreed to a deal with running back Rico Dowdle, formerly

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Speaker 2: of the well last year of the Carolina Panthers and

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Speaker 2: then before that the Dallas Cowboys. He's got history with

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Speaker 2: Micha McCarthy. He's had back to back one thousand yard

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Speaker 2: rushing seasons. He is the bigger body type that we've

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Speaker 2: talked about that we would really like in that room

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Speaker 2: with Jalen Warren, I got a feeling, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to speak for you, but I have a feeling you're

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Speaker 2: a fan of this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the majority of it. I mean, you can pick

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Speaker 3: holes in all these things, and I'll do that also

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Speaker 3: with Pittman and the other guys as well. None of

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Speaker 3: these guys are perfect, right, I mean, they're all pros

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Speaker 3: and cons. I guess I'll start with the negative. I'm

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Speaker 3: not because I'm in a bad mood. His pass protection

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Speaker 3: address because I've heard people say, well, Jayleen Warren will

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Speaker 3: do the pass protecting. Well, you can't just put Dawdle

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Speaker 3: ball ever, you know, I mean, like he's going to

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Speaker 3: be on the.

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Speaker 2: Field field down. They know you're throwing.

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Speaker 3: Every defensive coordinator knows that he's questionable in protection. I'd

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Speaker 3: be really excited to see and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: they'll even do it anymore him and like backs on backers,

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Speaker 3: you know, like those type of things, you know, like

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Speaker 3: it's funny, like we've been covering this team so long,

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Speaker 3: it's like throw him out on backs on backers, see

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Speaker 2: To do at anyway, seven is going to be a

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Speaker 3: But anyway, that worries me. But he's a capable receiver

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Speaker 3: and he's gotten a little bit more and more in

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Speaker 3: if we just define that as ten plus yards, he's been.

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Speaker 3: He finds grease and he attacks it. He runs really,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's not just a monotone athlete either. It

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Speaker 3: He doesn't. He has some nuance to his game. Better

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Speaker 3: But this is kind of what we thought, you know.

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Speaker 3: It makes Warren the quote smaller back. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 3: Warren's kind of like right in the middle of either.

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Speaker 3: If you're bigger than Warren, you're a big back, you're

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Speaker 3: kind of do either side of it. The money doesn't

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Speaker 3: and there's that that's a legitimate question, because Gamewell really

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Speaker 3: I you know, I don't think that they wanted Warren

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Speaker 2: And I think that's smart. Yeah, I think that's the

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Speaker 2: I think that's the idea.

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Speaker 3: Why they drafted Caleb. You know why they draft him, Right.

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Speaker 2: That's why they drafted Caleb. And while you and I,

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Speaker 2: I mean again, we've talked all these things to death

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Speaker 2: last year. You know what you're getting. He's comfortable with

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Speaker 3: He exceeded all expectations.

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Speaker 2: He was really good, certainly, But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: that's not the ideal. If you're just going pie in

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Speaker 2: the sky ideal scenario of what you want in your

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Speaker 3: That's not even how they built the room last year, right,

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Speaker 3: it's a different It's.

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Speaker 2: A little more two left shoes as opposed to having

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Speaker 2: little more peanut butter and peanut butter as opposed to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this the beauty of Warrens. I think

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Speaker 3: But how do you want to compliment him best? You know?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And en Rico Daddle, I think fits that Bill.

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Speaker 2: You had a good stat pool too last night. One

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Speaker 2: of just eleven running backs with thirteen hundred or more

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven years old, so.

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Speaker 3: Hey, two more years out of him or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Great twenty seven years old for is not, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's got his fair share of touches. He's

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're probably renting him for two years, and

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's Maybe it is direct

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Speaker 3: might be more of the gain Well type, you know,

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Speaker 3: and make Warren the middle guy. I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: don't you go any direction with that pick in terms.

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Speaker 2: Of style regardless. I think you need somebody there to

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Speaker 3: You can't just guarantee you can't just guarantee.

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Speaker 2: Him a roster spot because you're one injury away from

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Speaker 3: And I don't you can't trust him yet. Maybe he

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Speaker 2: Trust them exactly exactly exactly right. So there's a lot

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Speaker 3: And I think I like a solid backfield.

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Speaker 2: I like the I like the move. It's a solid backfield,

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Speaker 2: and it's one that has a lot of versatility in

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Speaker 2: that was the I guess the big import news for

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Speaker 2: significant export news that happened last night as well as

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Speaker 2: guard Isaac saamalu as it as it seems like, is

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Speaker 2: their hit their with the Arizona Cardinals. Three years thirty

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Speaker 2: one point five million dollars for big Isaac.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think the money's crazy. I think he

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Speaker 3: get a small bump because all starting and offensive lineman

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Speaker 3: Had a pretty good here. I'm sure I haven't studied

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Speaker 3: the contract nor any of these contracts, but I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I would think. So there's may maybe a void year

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I was also shocked that it was a

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Speaker 2: Do you think maybe some of that was more so

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Speaker 2: like they can give them more money up front.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just how they structure.

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Speaker 2: Hush hush, I we know you're not going to play

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Speaker 2: three years here, but this will allow us to give

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Speaker 3: I assume it's something along those lines.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully, and you can space it out hopefully in a

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Speaker 2: year or two when you retire, We've you know, got

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Speaker 2: a quarterback and some pieces that we're getting ready to pay,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it works out for all. You get

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Speaker 2: more money up front, we get less of a cap

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Speaker 3: I would imagine that's probably the way they have it structured,

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Speaker 3: a league in a year or two for sure. And

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Speaker 3: I just did a mock had them taking an offensive

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Speaker 3: line with third pick, you know, like it'd be a

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Speaker 3: good influence in the room for the next young guy

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Speaker 3: there too, as he was with these guys. That kind

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Speaker 2: That's still what we're looking for, right, We will get

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Speaker 2: to tweets an hour or two, Matt. It's been it's

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Speaker 2: actually been almost kind of overwhelming in a way, Like

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours the amount of tweets

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Speaker 2: that we've had rolling in from peach us what do

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Speaker 2: you think about this? Would you rather this? And what

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Speaker 2: about this hypothetical? But one of the popular ones that

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Speaker 2: we've gotten over the last twelve hours or so, eighteen

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Speaker 2: looking for the Steelers to make a move on now.

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Speaker 2: I think there's still some very some very intriguing options

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Speaker 2: in that department. Yeah, Guard and safety.

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Speaker 3: I think guard two out of building. Things you might

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Speaker 2: Right sure, So it's all the picture is still.

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Speaker 3: Bob Ross might take a I'm gonna throw this crazy

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Speaker 2: You know what's he always say there's there's no mistakes

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Speaker 2: There's no mistakes, only happy accidents. That's what that's. That's

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Speaker 2: That's the news of the day as it relates to

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Speaker 3: The only one that signed elsewhere since we got together.

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Speaker 2: Last I believe it gone. I believe so. Looking to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and world you're still winning Rico heard it a

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Speaker 2: of the Day as free agency rolling along, brother, and

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Speaker 2: there's plenty uh plenty of news for us to get

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Speaker 2: today on this Tuesday, it's getting started West Huler, Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 4: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here,

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Speaker 4: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to think of like a parallel of

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's tons O, there's tons, right, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's almost kind of reminds me like, did you ever

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Speaker 2: I know, you had some interesting jobs growing up. Do

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Speaker 3: Yeah? My first job was a busboy at a semi

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Speaker 3: nice restaurant. Okay, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: That the kind of the the only parallel I could

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Speaker 3: And then somebody breaks something, right.

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Speaker 3: A long time. I was sixteen, but yeah, I learned

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Speaker 3: You're just like on the griddle, like just yes, the

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Speaker 2: I can't lie. I got I have a blackstone. They're amazing.

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Speaker 2: You do need to get one.

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Speaker 3: I was going to my wife's like, where are you

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to Nicky.

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Speaker 3: We'll have a conversation, buy me one for my birthday,

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Speaker 3: and I'll pay you back.

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Speaker 2: Shove with the pickup truck, big frives.

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Speaker 3: Well, here we go, right, oh man, it.

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Speaker 2: Would be like the feeling of leaving after like a

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Speaker 2: these I know people love when we do this. I'm

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Speaker 2: just going to kind of toss you alley oops on

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Speaker 2: all of these different signals and you give us, you

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Speaker 3: On top of everything that's happened today, I've been in

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, obviously it was a success first time around.

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Speaker 3: Is he backup the BC kid they took in the

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Speaker 2: Might have been the difference between them acquiring Max Crosby

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Speaker 3: Right, like, we got these new needs all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, good point, So they'll have.

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Speaker 3: But there's no none's gonna go in the first round.

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Speaker 3: But they think there might be three or four starters

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Speaker 2: Great year, he certainly is. And I'll take them. I'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think people might remember when the

437
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Speaker 3: Patriots Belichick took him in the first round. All of

438
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: us thought he was a third fourth round player, and

439
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 3: then he came to the Patriots and played like a

440
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 3: third fourth round player and ended up in Miami on

441
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 3: basically for nothing. I assume his deal wasn't much. I

442
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 3: think he's going to be in the mix, but not like, oh,

443
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: we were setic guard for years to come.

444
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Speaker 2: He has not been two years, thirteen million.

445
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so a little more than I would have guessed.

446
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: But maybe they're looking at him as a starter. And

447
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like preclude them from drafting somebody. No, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

448
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 2: And a good, good, big money deal for Devin Lloyd.

449
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 2: We talked a lot about his market. He was one

450
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 2: of the top free agent names entering this draft. He

451
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: lands in Carolina, three years, forty five million dollar deal

452
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 2: for the twenty seven year old off ball linebacker coming

453
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Speaker 2: off a great season with the Jags. Yeah.

454
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean the Panthers get Lloyd and Phillips in their

455
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: front seven, real big money for both. I mean that

456
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: was a pusher Chips into the middle a little bit

457
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 3: for a team that's I don't think as a contender,

458
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: but they won their division. It's pretty aggressive offseason for

459
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: the Panther Yeah. Yeah, Yeah.

460
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 2: Added Kenny Pickett there for on a one year deal

461
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: as well.

462
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. He made a little more than I thought he

463
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: would too. He he made five or six or something.

464
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: Maybe they went I assumed Dalton. I think Dalton might

465
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Speaker 3: even retire.

466
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Speaker 2: They went and cut on that highlight tape of Kenny

467
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Speaker 2: Pickett and what he did at that stadium against Wake

468
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: Forest in the SEC Championship. Came and they said, all right,

469
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: we could work with this, said success here. Another name

470
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: that we had talked a lot about, more so related

471
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: to Steelers possibilities, Jets guard Elijah Vera Tucker. He stays

472
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: in division, but moves to New England three year, forty

473
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Speaker 2: two million dollar deal with incentives to rise to potentially

474
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Speaker 2: forty eight million dollars.

475
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have had a lot of interest. I mean,

476
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Speaker 3: durability is a massive concern. I kind of mentioned what

477
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: the Patriots did. They drafted Wilson in the third round,

478
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Speaker 3: who's a center, but they had to play mcguard basically,

479
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: then they trade their center, so Wilson goes into center.

480
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 3: I assume, yep, they're gonna keep. Yeah, so you could

481
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Speaker 3: Campbell at left tackle, even though some of us think

482
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Speaker 3: he's more of a guard, but I mean he deserves

483
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Speaker 3: at least another year, and Vera Tucker is gonna be

484
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: right between those two. So it's a pretty solid front.

485
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Speaker 2: Five Mike on when you on a right guard more

486
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Speaker 2: than Moses right tackle. Better than what they had in

487
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

488
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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, way better than two years ago.

489
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Speaker 2: And that all staff took over you. You can certainly,

490
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Speaker 2: you know, look at the left side of that line

491
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Speaker 2: and think, if Vera Tucker gets injured, if Will Campbell

492
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Speaker 2: doesn't take a step forward, it's going to be a disaster.

493
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Speaker 3: But it's a little fragile on that Sude it's.

494
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: I think at least some reasons for optimism there.

495
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Speaker 3: When he's healthy. He's a very good player.

496
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Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, another name that we had mentioned because familiarity.

497
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Speaker 2: He was a Cleveland Brown for a while. Was with

498
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Speaker 2: the Jags last season. Greg Knewsome the second one year,

499
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Speaker 2: ten million dollar deal to join John Harbaugh in New York.

500
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Speaker 3: Yes, good player, he can play inside, he could play out.

501
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: Smart Northwestern dude, former first round pick, has length, has

502
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: some pedigree. They lost flot you know, they so the

503
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: kind of swapping free agents out. Not a massive needle mover, though.

504
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: Let's get in the news of well, some of those

505
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: were this morning, some of those were last night. Now

506
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: this is all within within today. Speaking of the Carolina Panthers,

507
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: they released defensive tackle A Shawn Robinson.

508
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: He's kind of that Steeler nose tackle, old man's strength guy.

509
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that's we talked offensive line in safety. Yeah, maybe

510
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: we should have mentioned maybe we should have mentioned a

511
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: nosy type defensive tackle in there too.

512
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially when that got released. I mean that makes

513
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 3: him even more appealing.

514
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 2: Does not count against the game formula.

515
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: Would be a low snap count. Hold the point I

516
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 3: would say grown man with him because when he came

517
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 3: out of Bama, he looked like he was forty years

518
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: old and he still now he looks like he's fifty

519
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: and he'd play forever. He doesn't one great.

520
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: You know, one of those guys who just looked came

521
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: out of them looking like Reding hairline.

522
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the kid in kindergarten that was bigger than

523
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Speaker 3: everybody else that had a beard.

524
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Speaker 2: You know, he was the one in like Pop Warner

525
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: football that had to like makel wait every single week

526
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: to make sure he could play.

527
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Speaker 3: You can't play with the other kids. You know, it's

528
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: not fair.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, speaking of you know, the Houston Texans continuing

530
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: to add not just read Blanket Ship, but also Braydon Smith.

531
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Speaker 2: This was announced earlier this afternoon. Former Colts tackle goes

532
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: to Houston two year, twenty five million dollar deal.

533
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: They're obviously familiar with them in division. Their ability is

534
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: an issue with him too. It kind of reminds me

535
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: of like when Kelly left the Colts last year and

536
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 3: went to the Vikings and it was pretty much hurt

537
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: all year. But they they also well they traded a

538
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: guard slash tackle to the Browns and then they g

539
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: or who wasn't the huge offensive lineman Jones. They gave

540
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: him an extension. They drafted Ursery out of Minnesota last

541
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: year and he looked reasonably successful. So they kind of

542
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: have three tackles. Now someone's going to go to guard.

543
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: I don't know who. I assume Smith, when healthy, is

544
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: the starting right tackle. I don't know.

545
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: I mean they have been turning over that offensive for.

546
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: So much decade. Yeah, so now they've now I talk

547
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: through this like everyone in the planet, including myself, has

548
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 3: mocked a tackle to them in the first round. Maybe

549
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: retackle types, none of whom have guard experience. Now, I

550
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: don't think Vega is going to get to their pick

551
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: at twenty eight shot. I mean that was blown away

552
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 3: on that. But their interior needs help, so I don't know,

553
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: maybe they'll take a tackle and put a guard. They

554
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of needs. No, they don't mean

555
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: they're in a good spot.

556
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: But that offensive line certainly, and the run game has

557
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: been at the been at the forefront of that conversation

558
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: for them, seemingly for more than just this offseason. Another

559
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: name that we mentioned plenty when having free agency, you know,

560
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: preview conversations and specifically from a Black and Gold perspective

561
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: was wide receiver Romeo Dobbs.

562
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that just happened, huh.

563
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: As he has signed for the New England Patriots four years,

564
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: seventy million dollars.

565
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see the deal. Okay, So it's like

566
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: seventeen ish eighteen.

567
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Little little less basically than what Pittman is getting from

568
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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

569
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's about nineteen, okay. I thought Dobbs would be

570
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: fifteen ish. You know, when we previewed the Steelers one.

571
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: Dell Robinson also got a little more than I expected.

572
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: Pierce got a lot more than everybody expected, but not

573
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 3: totally surprising, just some about the guys that were true

574
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: free agents. So we talked about going into free agency period.

575
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: They need him at all. Diggs is gone, he'll be

576
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: a starter there. They still could add something pretty high

577
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: in the draft too. I got no problem with it.

578
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: I was a Dobbs fan of all the true free

579
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: agent ones. He was my favorite for the Steelers, and

580
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: he does a lot of Pittman stuff, dirty work over

581
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: the middle, big body. You know, there's there's.

582
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: Some similarities there. I think I would rather have Pittman,

583
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: but I like both, and I would have taken either, certainly.

584
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dobb's got a lot better from last year from

585
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: the year before to last year too, so he's improving.

586
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: And then the last one, Matt that we have to discuss. Oh,

587
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: not a huge one here, but across the timeline from

588
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: Adam Scheffer, Brown's resigning Tevin Jenkins guard who who played

589
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: all seventeen games for them last season. As we know

590
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: first that we know they need to add some help

591
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: or at least a couple line there.

592
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they signed Zion Johnson to a much bigger

593
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: deal than I would have That was like seventeen or eighteen.

594
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: They traded for Howard who we mentioned from Houston. Jones

595
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: comes back at is the huge tackle he was on.

596
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 3: The only guys under a contract. Both their guards are

597
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: still out there and their two names I would be

598
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: interested in for the Steelers. And then who was who

599
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 3: they just signed They Tevin Jenkins. Yeah, he was kind

600
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: of a wash out as a tackle, but he's been

601
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: a pretty solid guard. So I guess they've got the

602
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: makings of three or four starters on the O line,

603
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: none of whom I'd say is an above average starter.

604
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: Though you know, I still think the first round is

605
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: begging for best tackle available, you know, that would and

606
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: then maybe another one on day two, Yeah, even another

607
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: one in the round one.

608
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: Go to the trenches, yeah, build the build the nest.

609
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 3: Yes.

610
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: And also, according to Adam Schefter, despite the speculation, the

611
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: Jaguars are not interested in trading Brian Thomas Junior, HM,

612
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm shocked by that. And hey, maybe that's just the

613
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: mouthpiece in the media drive up the price all those things.

614
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: Twenty four hours ago we're like, oh, Thomas, might you're

615
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: getting traded, you know, so, who knows. Maybe they just

616
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: didn't get the offers they wanted.

617
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: But speaking of trades, Matt, last one that we've got

618
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: to discuss here, at least until more of these continue

619
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: to roll across the timeline. There's been a trade for

620
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: a quarterback. Yeah, and I don't know if I can

621
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: give him his full government name on this one because

622
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: I kind of I'm kind of worried about it. But

623
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: from once he began, Geno Smith back to the New

624
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: York Jets, A Gino and a seventh rounder to New

625
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: York in exchange for a sixth rounder. He returns to

626
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: where he started his career in twenty thirteen. He also

627
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: has agreed to restructure his contract. The Raiders will still

628
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: pay a bulk of it, and the Jets will kind

629
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: of pay him the veteran minimum and the Raiders will

630
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: cover the rest. Here, there's a reason I like it

631
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: for for Gino and a reason I had for Gino.

632
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: I like it for Gino because he's gonna make more

633
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: money this way as opposed to if the Raiders would

634
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: have just cut him.

635
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So definitely, he's at.

636
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: That point in his career, you know, the big paydays

637
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: and all that or behind him.

638
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on the monster deal.

639
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: This will probably be the you know, the last year

640
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: of his career that he still makes a nice chunk.

641
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: Of money starter money. Yeah.

642
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: What I don't like about it for him is I

643
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: think that this could go terrible and like.

644
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 5: All that quarterbacks go to die, and if and if

645
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 5: he ends his career with a terrible worst year of

646
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: his career with the Raiders and follows it up with

647
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 5: a terrible year with the Jets.

648
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: You thought he'd be in a better situation, It could

649
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: be equally as bad.

650
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: All that goodwill that he built up, you know, when

651
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: he had that career resurgence in Seattle, and they wrote

652
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: me off and I right back though, and it will

653
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Speaker 2: be forgotten. It would be forgotten completely, completely completely forgotten.

654
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like success there probably are not.

655
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Speaker 2: High, No, not at all. No. And so I don't

656
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: know what the kind of idea is for the Jets.

657
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: That's what I don't get. So, first off, I don't

658
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: know what this means for Fields and Tyrod. Taylor Fields

659
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: is very cutable. They signed him to a two year deal,

660
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: but they gave most of the money money. Yes, so

661
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: he could be gone. It would save him like ten million,

662
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: but they don't need the money. You really want to

663
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: go in with Tyrod? And Geno just too really old,

664
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Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, what's that really get you? So I

665
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: think maybe both of them could be gone Andy draft one,

666
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean, could that be a tie Simpson spot. I

667
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: think they're probably the most likely team for Simpson, either

668
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: at seventeen or coming back into the first round. I'd

669
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: understand that. But frankly, I know the Jets have a

670
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: lot of money and they have to spend it. But

671
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: they went defense heavy, heavy, heavy before this trade. And

672
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: they're all old guys. I mean it's Minka is young

673
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: compared to the Davis and some of these dudes. It's

674
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: like you, you should be in this massive youth movement

675
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: with all these picks, and you traded your good dudes

676
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: and you're terrible. But I also think they're looking at

677
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: it like we got to save our jobs. Yeah, you know,

678
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: which is I don't understand there.

679
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: Which is a weird place to be because their fan

680
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: base just wants them to stink this year and go

681
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: and get the quarterback.

682
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: That falls on ownership. Ownership has to be like, I

683
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: don't care about your jobs. We need what's best for

684
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: the organization.

685
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: Go young, kind of like the Dolphins thing. Right, We're

686
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: just we're hitting a reset button this year to be

687
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: a tough year.

688
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: Each your vegetable.

689
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: What I mean? What if Gino plays just well enough

690
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: that they win six games? Yeah, right, and then they

691
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: don't end up getting the quarterback that they would have

692
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: gotten if they would have won three games.

693
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Speaker 3: I do think they have three first round picks next year.

694
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 3: They do.

695
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: They have some ammunition to move up.

696
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: But what's getting what's going from three wins to six

697
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: really going to get you?

698
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: And he plays well, is that really going to save

699
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: your job?

700
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: No?

701
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: Three wins verse six, No, probably not?

702
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: Probably not you're not going to win ten.

703
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: That one to me was surprising.

704
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't quite understand that organization ever.

705
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, I hope it works out for him obviously. Yeah,

706
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: but I was laughing at this. Matt since two thousand.

707
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: Late Minnesota, Yeah yeah, and a softer landing spot.

708
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, since they drafted Gino Smith in twenty thirteen.

709
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: The Jets then went to Matt Simms to Michael Vick,

710
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: to Ryan Fitzpatrick to Bryce Petty, to Josh McCown to say,

711
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm don't Arnold, to Trevor Simeon to Luke Falk to

712
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco, to Zach Wilson, to Mike White, to Josh

713
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: Johnson to Chris Streeveler to Aaron Rodgers to Tim Boyle

714
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: to Tyrod Taylor to Justin Fields, Brady Cook, and now

715
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: back to Gino Smith.

716
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: So some of our listeners are like, boys, Steelers have

717
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: a new quarterback every year. There's his Name's not Streeveler,

718
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: it's not Zach Wilson. With the second pick that was

719
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: horrendous from the start and never show a sign. I mean,

720
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: like that's very Brown's esque. I mean, we went through

721
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: the Pittman guys he caught passes from just during his

722
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: time in Indy. That was rough. I mean, that's like

723
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: end of career Matt Ryans and all those type of guys.

724
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: I mean, some of these organizations have gone through a

725
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: ridiculous string of quarterbacks, half of whom shouldn't be in

726
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: the leade, you know what I mean?

727
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: Half those names.

728
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, who and even the ones yesterday, I

729
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: was like forty five year old Rivers, you know, forty

730
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: one year old Ryan, And they're like, oh man, it

731
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: not that Rogers is a young pop. Sure, sure he's

732
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: playing at a little bit better level.

733
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: Yes, just just a little just a little bit better

734
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: than than than some of those guys, certainly. So again,

735
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: that's where we're at now. There will be more that

736
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: we have to to roll out here and and more

737
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: news flying across the timeline.

738
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: But I'm sure there was a lot to happened yesterday

739
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: we didn't even touch on.

740
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

741
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, maybe I'll go I'm gonna go back through

742
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: here and double check, because there are there are some

743
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: of these that the Ravens.

744
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: Lost a lot of dudes. They they got Crosby, but

745
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: a lot of former Ravens are employed elsewhere.

746
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit. When we returned,

747
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: a lot of Ravens former Ravens signed big money contract elsewhere.

748
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: So I guess that works out well for them in

749
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: the comp game.

750
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: The them man.

751
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: They lost some talent in the last in the last

752
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: twenty four hours.

753
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: So a little bit on defense as they overpaid, but

754
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: they got some good players.

755
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: Well let's let's let's we'll stay in the division and

756
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: do some do some AFC North round up here to

757
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: round up the first hour of the program. When we returned,

758
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Speaker 2: West Huoler, Matt Williamson. It is the Steelers Nation Radio

759
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

760
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Speaker 4: What's up, NFL fans? The NFL Draft is finally here,

761
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 4: and while you might not know who your team is

762
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 4: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number

763
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: one pick. Bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

764
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: all the scouts talking. Guess that's why it's been the

765
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 4: group's go to draft beer season after season. Be sure

766
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Speaker 4: to order around for the table before your team's on

767
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Speaker 4: the clock. Bud Light easy to drink, easy to enjoy,

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Speaker 4: enjoy responsibly Anheuser Busch bud Light Beer Saint Louis, Missouri, Your.

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Speaker 1: Tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven home

770
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Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Closing down the first hour of the show. Here on

772
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Speaker 2: another Free Agent Frenzy edition of The Drive, we will

773
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Speaker 2: have Christian Coots join us an hour number two. We're

774
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: going to talk about Matt's mock draft, mock draft one

775
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: that I really liked though, that you posted last night.

776
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: We will get to tweets fan.

777
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: To fiddle with it, you know, like what would I

778
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: grab now? You know, just knowing what we're gonna I

779
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: start doing a lot more of that stuff.

780
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

781
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: I just did a Day one and two just like

782
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: premium picks.

783
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: You know, I know I've said this to you before.

784
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: I know I've said this on air before. When I

785
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: when we do that stuff this time of year, Yeah,

786
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: there is like the prideful radio host in me that's.

787
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: Like, that's lazy radio.

788
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: It's like this same you know, middle of June, everyone

789
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: starts bringing up Mount Rushmore conversation.

790
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: Oh it's list season, yeah right, but.

791
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: People love it. Oh yeah, people, that kind of stuff

792
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: gets as much reaction as anything we do. So what

793
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: what's huge.

794
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: About is you start thinking through the process, like, well,

795
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: if we take a d tackle here, we're never gonna

796
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: get one in the third round. Blah blah. You know

797
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 3: mm hm, And you really do get a better feel

798
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: for the players and the strategy and how do you

799
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: feel needs, which is what teams do to some degree.

800
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: You know, right absolutely, they're having similar think tank type

801
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 2: conversations and hypothetical scenarios and all those different things.

802
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: Real quick. I don't know the answer to this, but

803
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: at some point Omar gms whoever have to sleep this week, right,

804
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: I mean, they're human beings. And I was down there

805
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: and I saw a couple of those dudes walking around.

806
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: They have kind of that zombie looking I'm sure, but like,

807
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: how do you get when do you feel comfortable actually

808
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: like closing your eyes for six hours, seven hours? I

809
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: mean between like very Saturday and Wednesday. Somebody in the

810
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: ranization high up better be on call. I don't know

811
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: how that works. I mean I didn't get real involved

812
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: with that with the Brows. I was doing college stuff

813
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: at that time.

814
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: I would imagine you have your list of what you need.

815
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: To accomplish, and whenever Omar leaves for the day, of

816
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: course he's on You can get them via phone or whatever.

817
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: Same with mister Rooney. And you know, everybody coaches. I

818
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: don't know how involved every team's coaching staff are, but

819
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: of course you have a strategy, but things have to

820
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: happen so quick. Like there's three corners, we like two

821
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: of them just fell off the border. Are gonna do now?

822
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: Oh no?

823
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 3: And it's eleven o'clock night and I thought I was gonnasleep,

824
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: but now not, you know, like it maybe it's like

825
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: day one.

826
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Speaker 2: We want to get our wide receiver. We want to

827
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 2: get our corner. Yeah, bang, you knock those out. Okay,

828
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: we can breathe for a second until tomorrow. Now, what's

829
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: on the docket for today?

830
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Speaker 3: I was just thinking, like the human assa free agency,

831
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Speaker 3: how do I allocate my hours of the day and

832
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: my sleep? And when do I have a chance to eat?

833
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: I mean, you can eat any time.

834
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: But you know, you know what that's that is a

835
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: great question because even you and I, I'm sure you've

836
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: been guilty of this. And hey, I'm I'm millennials, so

837
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: I'm bad with my phone as it is, but I'm

838
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: checking my phone every thirty seconds. Oh yeah, what's going on?

839
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: What's going on? What's going on. Imagine if it's actually

840
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: your livelihood and actually your job, it's agents calling, and

841
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: it is my livelihood and my job to be on

842
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: top of this millions.

843
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: Of dollars at steak and Joe Joe Cornerback on his

844
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: coming off his first contract, isn't waiting around. He's signing

845
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: now because the team's like, I'm between two dudes. It's

846
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: you and me, and we can't get in touch with

847
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: the Steelers because it's midnight and people were asleep or

848
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, you know, and if it's it's

849
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Speaker 3: West Coast.

850
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: I was just eight o'clock in California and they're all

851
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: still up. But it's a five o'clock here in Pittsburgh

852
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: and they're like, is anybody going to answer the phone?

853
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or the people in San fran and Seattle up

854
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: at five or four just in case somebody from the

855
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: East Coast calls, Like, somebody better be on call twenty

856
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: four hours. I'd love to know how that worked.

857
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 2: It's a great question, I think.

858
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: I mean, people in the organization would tell us that

859
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: that's not some trade secret. That's not like we'd like

860
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: this linebacker better than this Yeah, you know, right.

861
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have to ask that. Yeah, one of these times, Matt.

862
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: The Raiders yesterday signed eight players valued at two hundred

863
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 2: and eighty three million dollars.

864
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: That has to be more than like New England did

865
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: on the first day last year, Milton Williams. Guys.

866
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, nearly two hundred and eighty four million dollars spent

867
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: by the Raiders. So Linderbaum, Naylor, Dean Walker pay.

868
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: I mean, two starting linebackers. I kind of liked that move.

869
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: They were two really active.

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Speaker 2: Jan I like the Dean signing for that.

871
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think him and Walker were together at Georgia,

872
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: you know, off those awesome defenses too. Back to Linderbaumb

873
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: just super quickly because I heard this today. Like everyone,

874
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: he's like the highest paid center in history. Of course,

875
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: I mean the next highest next year, there'll be another one.

876
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: I mean, like everyone, it's always going to be that

877
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: in history. You don't even have to say that anymore.

878
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: Whoever's the highest paid in the league now is the

879
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: highest paid in history. But I saw people go back

880
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: and compare him percentage of cap, you know, which that's

881
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: what really makes which matters. You know, you and I

882
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 3: have talked about.

883
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: This, Aunt for inflation and all this.

884
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean if and his percentage of cap is

885
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: still like ten percent higher than any center in history.

886
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: Even more than like Creed Humphrey. Right yeah, I.

887
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: Mean even like Dark Dawson for his day. I mean

888
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: the cap was tiny, but whoever, like you know what

889
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, yeah, like the Raiders valued him more

890
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 3: by far than any center in history. I mean, it's

891
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: a good move on game day and for your rookie quarterback,

892
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: and they had the money to spend. But it's when

893
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: people put it in perspective of not just like is

894
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: he a twenty million dollars dude, but like it's way

895
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: more percent of cap than anyone's ever been considered a

896
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: center before.

897
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes the stars just a line and boy did they

898
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: for Tyler Linder Balms, Yeah, season.

899
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: And it didn't for the Ravens, like they had to know,

900
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 3: we got no chance, no chance, no.

901
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: Chance, Matt one of one or two other things that

902
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: we got to discuss here, along with some of these

903
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: massive exoduses for the Baltimore Ravens. But the Lions did

904
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: find their David Montgomery replacement, uh, signing Isaiah Pacheco to

905
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: pair with Jamiir Gibbs.

906
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not a big Pacheco fan. I would

907
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 3: not have he would not have been on my list

908
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: for the Steelers. I would much rather have Dowdell or

909
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: Dowdell or gain Well. But for them, he's not gonna

910
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: be the Knuckles or whatever the nickname is. I mean,

911
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: he's just gonna be kind of a complimentary, a third

912
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: of the snaps guy. It's not gonna be a fifty

913
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: to fifty you know, he comes in and does the

914
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: Montgomery roll. I mean, I don't think they're counting on

915
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: him for that stuff. Just give Gibbs a break. Yes,

916
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 3: you know, I don't need much more.

917
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: Out of you, No, GiB Gibbs. Gibbs is going to

918
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: be the guy. Yeah, that's a you know, that's a

919
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 2: fine I think. Yeah.

920
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. And again, it's not a great running back draft.

921
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: So these teams are the backs. Can't just wait around.

922
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: I'll get one of the third round, right, exactly right.

923
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: That's just not an option to the same degree as usual.

924
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: Exactly right, Matt Baltimore. They added Max Crosby, but they've

925
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: lost a lot in the last few days.

926
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: They paid a lot for Simpson to the guard. That's

927
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: the only other guy. I think they've added a note,

928
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: they've lost a.

929
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: Lot, Yes, yes they did, and man, I for them.

930
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of the Baltimore Ravens

931
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: as we sit here right now, honestly.

932
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: Today that they're by fall or not by far, but

933
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: clearly the AFC favorite for the Super Bowl right now.

934
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 3: And I was like, really no, just because Adam Crosby.

935
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they still have a lot of holes, especially

936
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: on offense and at the defense, and all their big

937
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: people are problematic. It's a new coaching staff. Do we

938
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: know it's gonna be better? I don't know. I said

939
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: this yesterday. I mean, I have respect for Buffalo, I

940
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 3: have respect for Baltimore. They have awesome quarterbacks. They're gonna

941
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: be in the hunt. We know these things. But the

942
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: Dj Moore and Crosby deals were a little desperate, I

943
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: mean for what they paid.

944
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah.

945
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: I mean, they both have new coaches, they both have

946
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: awesome quarterbacks, high expectations, and they kind of made some

947
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: desperate moves.

948
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: This is pretty wild, though. So the Ravens twenty twenty

949
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 2: two draft class to this point has collected two hundred

950
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: and ninety eight million dollars in total contract extensions with

951
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: Daniel Falle still available.

952
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: That's Hamilton, Kyle Kyle.

953
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: Hamilton a little over one hundred million dollars, Yeah, Linderbaum

954
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: eighty one million dollars, Travis Jones forty and a half.

955
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: Two of them stayed with Yeah, yeah yeah.

956
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: Charlie Kohler twenty four point three.

957
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: He's a good player too, He's just an underrated Yeah yeah, he's.

958
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 2: Jordan Stout twelve point three. And Isaiah Likely forty million.

959
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think he went with Harbaugh.

960
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, okay, And Isaiah likely.

961
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: And likely die with Harbor. Yeah, yah, okay.

962
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: Man and they have lost the out they have and it'll,

963
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: you know what, it'll work out for them in the

964
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: comp game. I'm sure they'll be leading the charge in

965
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: that regard next year. But they're in win now mode, right.

966
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean, they lost two tight ends. I don't they

967
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: won't be his tight end centric different staffs. Andrews is

968
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: up in age. I mean, you can't play every snap

969
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: all the time. They don't have to find some kind

970
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: of young backup. I definitely think they need another wide out.

971
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Flowers to me is not a one. He's

972
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: a really good player, but Bateman's been really hard to

973
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: count on. You can't just keep going back to the

974
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: well with all they always have that brand name dude

975
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: that's way past his prime, DeAndre Hopkins type guy, you know,

976
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: like going back to Bolden and Jason. Yes, yeah, they

977
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: always have that guy. You can't keep going to that well.

978
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: Steve Smith right right right.

979
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: And they're still okay, but they're not the Hall of

980
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: Fame type they once were. They've had a million of

981
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: those guys. But their interior line definitely needs two starters.

982
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: They signed Simpson, but they don't have a center, and

983
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: they need another guard.

984
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: They don't have a first round pick.

985
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what Matta Bouque status is, you know.

986
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying they're a bad team, but

987
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 3: I would also pick up another running back.

988
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: They've got some got some needs, may have a.

989
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: Lot of needs and a lot of resources.

990
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 2: Right now, you got a shiny new piece on defense.

991
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 3: But and that's awesome. That could put him over the top.

992
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm not discounting that.

993
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to wait and see, but certainly a

994
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: lot going on in raven Land, a lot going on

995
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: in steeler Land, a lot going on across the NFL.

996
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: We'll continue to monitor all of it. That's the first

997
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: hour in the books. When we come back, I want

998
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: to take a look at Matt's mock draft from last night.

999
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: A real interesting scenario and an outcome I think that

1000
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: I would be.

1001
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 3: Very, yeah, appealing, get on, very appealing. Yeah.

1002
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: We'll start there, and hour number two we'll talk to

1003
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: Christian Koontz. We'll get to some of your tweets. A

1004
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: lot of fun here as we are halfway home. You'ler Williamson.

1005
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Speaker 2: It's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.