1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, September tenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: episode number thirty six, and oh have we got a 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: show for you today here Live on the Break, live 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We are 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: going to talk about this Cowboys game versus the Carolina Panthers. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys lose sixteen to eight. Not what any of us expected, 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: far from what we expected. Probably, I think we all 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: probably expected that that offense would be a little bit 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: better than it was yesterday. And and so we're gonna 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: get into that. We're gonna talk about everything that happened 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: in the game and why the Cowboys end up losing it. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: But first, before we get to to just the intricate 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: parts of the game, I want to start with the 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: big picture here. Dallas basically blank defensively, they blanked until 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. They didn't, I'm sorry, offensively, they weren't 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: able to score until the fourth quarter. The defense, pretty 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: much after giving up ten points in the first half, 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: then held this team pretty steady there for the rest 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: of the game. And really it was a lot of 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: the damage that the Panthers did offensively happened early in 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: the game, before they started to figure out what was 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: happening with Cam Newton. Overall, what did you think of 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: the just the poor play offensively and how the Cowboys 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: really are going to get any better at this point. 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I thought they would beat the Panthers by 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: thirteen points. I thought Zeke would look good. I thought 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: the offense would look good. I was naive to think 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: that this team would just magically get it together, and 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: they didn't. They looked like they had not played with 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: each other before, and a lot of them hadn't, you know, 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: haven't because there are new players. It was really ugly, 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: and I'm the first one to say I was absolutely 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: wrong about it, and I won't do that again until 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: they they changed things around, because this is this is 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: really looking bad. And I thought last year was kind 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: of a well, you know, the Zeke and then the injuries. Now, 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: this is a this is a trend that that's been 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: happening for a while, and it it showed up again. 45 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: And here, I mean, I was absolutely wrong. I'm not 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: gonna try to pretend like I wasn't. But I keep 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: going back to the last thing I said on our 48 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: show Friday, which ironically a lot of people didn't hear 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: because it got cut off, but I heard it. I basically, 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I said, you know, I'm gonna choose to 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: believe what I've seen over the last six weeks, and 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: that went for both sides of the ball, and on 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: the defensive side. I feel pretty good about that, honestly. 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they they It took them some time 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: to get their feet wet. Shaun Lee missed some tackles. 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, Cam ran for sixty yards. It's not great, 57 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: but they buckled down two hundred ninety three yards and 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: sixty points should win you most football out. Yeah, not 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: bad at all. The two or three sacks through DeMarcus 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Lawrence looked amazing. So I chose to believe that that 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: could happen, and it worked. And then I chose to 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: believe that what we'd seen at training camp would translate over. 63 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Michael Gallup getting involved, Havon Austin 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: doing a little bit of everything, Dak Prescott not being amazing, 65 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: certainly not Aaron Rodgers but moving the ball, and Ezekiel 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Elliott doing his thing. Literally, like none of that happened. 67 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I'd like, all benefit of the doubt is gone. They 68 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: don't deserve it. Dak looked terrible, He looked inaccurate, He looked, 69 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: he looked flustered by the pressure. Connor Williams we said 70 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: on the show, to our credit, we're not wrong about everything. 71 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: He said. Kawan Short and Don Taripoe had the potential 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: to erect this game, and they did. Tyrant Smith got 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: flagged twice. Lyle Collins called like literally against a good 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: defensive front. Ezekiel Elliott ran hard and effectively in a 75 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: game where he was out of his rhythm from the 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: get so I'll give him a little bit of credit 77 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: for playing a decent game. Everything else sucked, and we 78 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: can get into it in more detail later, but all 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt out the window in one game. 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: There you go. I really really thought that having all 81 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: these receivers was gonna change everything. In a way that 82 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: you were gonna get something different from this offense, and 83 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: Dad was go be able to, as we seen during 84 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: training camp, have a better connection with them, and clearly 85 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: that was in the case. This was a whole mess. 86 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: The offense couldn't get going, and I'm so disappointed and 87 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: upset because there was nothing to get you excited about. Again. 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott obviously a great running back. We didn't really 89 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: see him going and when you look at the stat 90 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: and we were looking at it on the plane, it's like, oh, okay, 91 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: he got sixty nine yards. Oh, we don't know how 92 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: that happened. And he's known to get those little yards 93 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: here and there and then they start accumulating and adding up. 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it didn't help 95 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: at all. And there was one Um what play was 96 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: that Nike where we were like, they need to run 97 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: the freaking ball? Um? There were third and I think, yes, 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: the third and three play and the third quarter when 99 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: it that's what I'm thinking, Yeah, yeah, we're Dak went 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: in for a pass and it's like, why are they 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: calling this play? Like why not run the ball? They 102 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: just needed like three more yards to get first down. 103 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I think it's the play in the third quarter where 104 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: we're third and three, like on the forty six, and 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: they hadn't done anything all day. This is like the 106 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: furthest they've gotten, and it's like, you have to decide 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: this is four down territory. And if you can decide that, 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, Zeke for two, Zeke for one, you'll you'll 109 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: get the first down. They ran him throw. He just 110 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: threw it away and then ended up punting, and you know, 111 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: I just it's you you're down to nothing. It's like 112 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: halfway halfway, uh second and five, Zeke makes it third three, 113 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: they throw and complete the swam and punt from the 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: Carolina forty six. Yeah. I mean I was thinking, you're 115 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: about six seven yards away from from trying to field goal. 116 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: And if this guy's got you know, super strong leg, 117 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: which he does, not sure how accurate he is, but 118 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: he's got a super leg. I mean, you're down ten nothing, 119 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: you might have to try fifty seven yard or the 120 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: fifty seven yard is why he is on the team 121 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: because he made it in Houston, and you know he 122 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: obviously drilled that kick. I never got a good look. 123 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it would seem like it was pretty close 124 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: forty seven yard or yeah, he just feel like it 125 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: just drifted off to the right. Just I mean, he's 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: got the leg, but I mean, you know, you gotta doesn't. 127 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Forty seven yard is not a gimme, and I don't. 128 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't want anybody act like it is. It's not 129 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: a gimme in the NFL. I mean, but but first kick, 130 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: you kind of want to see it. And certainly when 131 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: people are going to compare him to Dan Bailey, which 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the refrain everything he does from this 133 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: point forward, it will be compared to Dan Bailey and 134 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: not Dan Bailey that was here when he left Dan 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Bailey's career. That's gonna be a thing. And a forty 136 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: seven yard or was a gimme in Dan Bailey's prime exactly, 137 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: and that's what he's going to be compared to. That's 138 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: the problem. I'll say this. I'll say this about about 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: the Bailey situation. I don't know if he would have 140 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: made the forty seven yarder. I do not know that 141 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: history says that he probably would. Recent history said that 142 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: he might not. But I know this, he's not. He's 143 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: not given um. He's not getting four touchbacks at all 144 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: and the way that the Cowboys were covering punts um 145 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: that if they covered kickoffs the same way then that 146 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: could have been a problem. So that's one of the 147 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: reasons why they did it, is that they can't tell 148 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Dan go get get me a touchback. They could tell 149 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: this guy and most of the other kickers get one. 150 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: So that's a big difference there. But I know no 151 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: one cares about that. They want to They want to 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: see him made field goals and he missed. All right, 153 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's talk about particularly about the offense. 154 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Dak Prescott and the protection. 155 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Uh Dac was nineteen of twenty nine. That was sixty 156 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: six percent completion, one hundred and seventy yards, zero touchdown, 157 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: zero interceptions, eighty one QB rating for the game, he 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: was sacked six times. If you watch the game, there 159 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: were there were sometimes it was just kind of like 160 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: guy just got beat. There were other times where it 161 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: was just like it seemed like maybe they were out 162 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: of sync and not knowing where it was coming from. 163 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: That I think about the Shack Thompson blitz where Zeke 164 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: was Sposa picked him up. It seemed like Zeke ad 165 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: just it too late, No way he's gonna get there 166 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: in time. Guy just gets clean shot on the quarterback. 167 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: But obviously your rookie Connor Williams had a rough day 168 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: and he gave up two of those sacks. So just offensively, 169 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: looking at the offensive line in the protections, do you 170 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: think that do you blame this more on the fact 171 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: that this unit has not did not play a lot 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: together during the preseason, or do you think it was 173 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: just literally they were overmatched and this defensive front was 174 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: just a ton better than they were to give up 175 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: six sacks, Well, a combination of both. I mean, clearly 176 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: they haven't had enough time playing time against another opposing team, 177 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, together, so that's gonna show up. And one 178 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: of my biggest things, like Dad, he's known in the 179 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: past for his confidence level and the fact that he's 180 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: able to, you know, keep it together and kind of 181 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: figure out what to do a little bit. But one 182 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: of the things that I noticed as far as him, 183 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: when the offensive line did give him some time, he 184 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: just wouldn't really process things and think quickly enough. And 185 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: there were times like the I think it was the 186 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: past to Blake Jarwin where he missed it and he 187 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: could have read, he was wide open. He could have 188 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: just ran the ball. And that's one of the things 189 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: he used to know. And the fact that you see 190 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: the opposing team doing it so much, we can and 191 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you should be inspired to run the freaking 192 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: ball too and just go for it. A lot of 193 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: the times he just wouldn't really think quick enough, and 194 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: that obviously got to and with the offense having some 195 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: struggles to combine the two, it's a disaster. I got 196 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: a couple things to touch on, but and we sort 197 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: of argued about this in the press box yesterday, which 198 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give them the didn't 199 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: have enough playing time excuse, because Connor Williams did get 200 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: a lot of playing time in the preseason, and so 201 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: did Joe Looney because they didn't have another option, Lyle Collins. 202 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: But the unit, the unit is where I'm more talking about. 203 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: You talk about offensive line, any offensive lineman will tell 204 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: you the value the offensive line is dim playing as 205 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: a unit, not about the individual. The three. The three, 206 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, the all five of them 207 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: are never gonna get a ton of playing time together 208 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: in the preseason, even if the Cowboys had done a 209 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: different even if they'd handled it differently, that's just not 210 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: gonna happen. You might get a maximum of like three 211 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: or four series in one game, Lyle, that's not true. 212 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: The dress rehearsal game usually the offense usually plays through 213 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: the first half and sometimes comes back and gets a 214 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: series into the into the third. How many possessions do 215 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: you get in an NFL game? Nine or ten? Yeah, 216 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: so if you probably have about five or six in 217 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: one game, cool, you're quibbling, true, Lyle, Joe and Connor 218 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: Williams got plenty of playing time. Zack Martin and Tyron 219 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: Smith or supposedly two of the best players on your team. 220 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't none of us have anything bad to say 221 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: about the way Zach played right necessarily, I mean, from 222 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: what I know, it seemed like he played like Zach 223 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Martin Tyron Smith. I mean, for the way we talk 224 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: about him, that's not good enough. Two flags that get 225 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: you behind the chains. I'm sorry if you didn't get 226 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: enough playing time, but you're on that level where you're 227 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be better than that. And then the play calling. 228 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: Two things come to mind. One, if you're playing a 229 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: front that you think has the potential to wreck your 230 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: game like that, which we us idiots who don't get 231 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: paid to game plan, we saw that coming, so I 232 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: would hope that they did. And so it didn't seem 233 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: like there was enough creativity, not just in the sense 234 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: that Dak was in the pocket too much against the 235 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: front that had the potential to kill him, but even 236 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: the stuff that they did to combat that was so 237 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: incredibly predictable, like the waggles that Dak has become known for. 238 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: He had a guy in his face when he got 239 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: done with the action every single time, Like that's that's 240 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: not great. That suggests to me that Carolina watched some 241 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: tape and had a pretty good idea of what to expect, 242 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Like can I get some read option, can I get 243 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: some misdirection? Can I get I mean, I don't know, 244 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't remember for sure, but I'm I feel like 245 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: most of Dak's carries were improvised and not planned, which 246 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: that's stupid. I mean Carolina's offense didn't look great either, literally, 247 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: like the difference between them winning and losing his fifty 248 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: eight rushing yards for Cam Newton, like just give me something, yep. 249 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: So what I say all the time up in the 250 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: press by He's got to keep this balls. Dak's gotta 251 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: keep it. I mean, give Carolina credit because Cam Newton 252 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: is not a good passer. To me, he can get 253 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: the job done. He's a good manager because he can 254 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: run the ball, and that they know what he is, like, 255 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: he knows what he is. He's not trying to be 256 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: anything that he's not. He's a big, strong tight end 257 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: that just decides to play quarterback and he's really good. 258 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: Well no, I mean he can throw the ball better 259 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: than any tight he can throw the ball, okay, end 260 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: basically quarterback. He's he's like a Tebow with that's better. 261 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: He's a better thrower than Tebow. But I'm just saying 262 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: he is what he is and they don't try to 263 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: do anything different out of it. He doesn't, you know, 264 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field a whole lot. He 265 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: does some, but he takes his shots. But he runs 266 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: the ball, and that's what they need to do. Dak's 267 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: not a passer right now either. Dak is better at running. 268 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: So play off of that and kind of quit trying 269 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: to make Dak what he isn't. And maybe that's what 270 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: Carolina I'm figured out with Cam over the years, he's 271 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: liked play to his strengths. And that's what I think 272 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: this team is really struggling with with Dak. They're trying 273 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: to make him something that he's not. This is simplistic, 274 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: but and let like, if if this team can run 275 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: the ball, if they can do their thing with Ze, 276 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: can just crank out yard and stay ahead of the chains, 277 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: they will take the game to anybody. And fortunately for them, 278 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: there's a lot of defensive fronts in the league that 279 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: can't handle that. When they go up against the defense 280 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: that can take that away, they just seem scared and lost, 281 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: and like they they let the defense dictate what happens, 282 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Like it sounds good when Jason garretts it, sounds plausible 283 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: and excuseable when Jason Garrett says it, which is, you know, 284 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: we got behind the chains. We let you know, circumstances 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: take us out of or in the NFL, that sucks. 286 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: Like if it being second and twelve instead of second 287 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: and five. Is the difference between you being good and bad? 288 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: You're not good, and you saw that. I mean to 289 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: let defenses dictate that to you the way the Panthers 290 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: did yesterday, it's an indictment of everybody involved in the 291 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: way this works. You mentioned that, but you look at 292 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: the division, that may be your hardest problem. Like there 293 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: are an there's several teams in this division that can 294 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: stop run well unfortunately for the Cowboys. I mean, there 295 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: are a lot of defenses that can't handle the way 296 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: they run the ball. There are a lot that can. 297 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: And that's I mean, the Giants have a front that 298 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: can do that. We've they were the first ones to 299 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: crack this code. The Eagles obviously, like that's disgusting. Watch 300 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: out for those those Ridskins that those two guys that 301 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: they got from Alabama, like they could become that kind 302 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: those kind of players that certainly have the ability. So 303 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is there are going to be teams 304 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: that will be able to stop this running attack. And 305 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: we've been saying this back since the Cowboys made this 306 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: decision to get rid of Dez Bryant. That you can 307 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: go with that option of just saying we're gonna have 308 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: a lot of good receivers and not really have a 309 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: great receiver. But the problem is you're gonna get into 310 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: those games you can't run. Who's going to be the 311 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: guy to catch the ball. And yesterday they didn't have 312 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: anybody who could get the ball there. First of all, 313 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: let alone be able to make a catch and make 314 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: a play. And to be clear, I think it's simplistic 315 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: to sit here and I can hear somebody saying it, 316 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: like the difference between success and failure is not Dak's 317 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: ability to throw it to a receiver thirty yards downfield 318 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: and back the defense off. I don't believe that you 319 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: just have to have a Plan B that works, whatever 320 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: that is, and we didn't. I mean, honestly, it looked 321 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: like they didn't even have one, Like they didn't try, 322 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: and like I can't. This is what I just can't 323 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: get over, which is that Blake Jarwin had twenty two 324 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: snaps to Tavon Austin's ten. They gave Tavon Austin the 325 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: ball on the second play of the game. It was 326 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: nullified by a Tyron Smith flag. They handed the ball 327 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: off to him halfway through the second quarter, and then 328 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: he disappeared from the offense. Why, I mean, if everything, 329 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: if he was so good at training camp and we 330 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: would all agree that he was, where was it like? 331 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Where I mean missed? How about if the defensive front 332 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: is collapsing on you take the game out wide. At 333 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: least try. I mean, I can't say with a certainty 334 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: that it would have worked, but they didn't even try. 335 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: They gave him the ball one yard off the ball. 336 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: He's a little guy, he needs a little bit of space. 337 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: Put him in a shotgun. Give it to him from 338 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: the shotgun so he has some running start. I mean 339 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: Lyell was getting pushed back every time, so as soon 340 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: as he got the ball, he was getting hit right 341 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: on the line like it was too close. That was 342 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: a bad play call. And then and then that's it. 343 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: It was almost like, okay, I'll show you Tavon Austin nap. 344 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: It's almost like they didn't want to really do it, 345 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: and then they gave him a play that he's not 346 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: going to succeed at and now, like them, that's it. 347 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure correct me if I'm wrong. I 348 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: know there was at least once. I think there were 349 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: twice that they ran a tight end screen in that 350 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: game twice, right, so, so the tight ends got more 351 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: screens than Tavon Austin. That to me is still a problem. 352 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like they're out thinking themselves, because 353 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: if you think about it, who would you rather have 354 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: in open space with the ball in his hands, a 355 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: tight end or a guy that runs a four three forty. 356 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it just it doesn't make sense to not 357 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: get him more involved in the Austene What's weird to 358 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: me is which two receivers. Which two receivers were missing 359 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: for most of training camp and preseason, Beyonte Thompson and 360 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. I think it would be Beasley and oh, 361 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: you're right, Beasley too, And they got thirteen targets combined, 362 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, more than anybody else. And then the next 363 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: receiver with the most is Hearns at three. I mean, 364 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: so it was kind of weird to go back on 365 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: the preseason stuff like you can say, well did it matter? 366 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: Did it? I mean, I don't really blame the Cowboys 367 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: for anything. I mean, is it a factor, Yes, it 368 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: probably is. But I'm not sitting here are going to 369 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: point fingers because again I said this over and over. 370 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: I think it was a domino effect that they could 371 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: not control. They could not control what happened to Travis 372 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: Frederick and at the same time it happened, it was 373 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: Zach Martin got hurt. So those two things are out 374 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: of your middle. There's no reason to play Time and Smith. 375 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: Then now we're not playing Dack and we're certainly not 376 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: playing z So that kind of affected what the what 377 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: their third preseason game usually isn't. I don't blame them 378 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: for that. I do think it factored in. But there's 379 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: enough quick crying about it. It's time to move on 380 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: from there. Let's take our first break. When we come back, 381 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: we need to talk a little bit about Zeke Elliott 382 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: and what he was able to do. 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That's what it's like being an LSUE 437 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: football fan. No, Like it's ten nothing and you're just like, 438 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: we're not winning this freaking let's not talk about football. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, 439 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: it's not the greatest, all right, so let's talk about 440 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Ezekuel Elliott yesterday, he runs fifteen times 441 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: or sixty nine yards four point six average. He gets 442 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: four I'm sorry, three catches, four targets, seventeen yards five 443 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: point seven yards per catch, all in all against a 444 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: good defensive front. Not a horrible day. Probably not what 445 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: you want. And certainly if you're looking at this offense 446 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: and how it's going to have to perform in order 447 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: to win, probably not what you need from the running 448 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: game if you're going to be expected to win. So 449 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: my question for you, guys is what do you think 450 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys can or will need to do in order 451 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: to get themselves to a position where their offense can 452 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: still run when the Russian game is not what it 453 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: should be. Well, I thought you just said it wasn't 454 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: a horrible game. I mean, I thought Zeke actually played 455 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: a really good game. Um, I mean that's the four 456 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: point six yards to carry is pretty good. Fifteen attempts 457 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: is not what you want to give. What you think 458 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: is that one of the best backs in the league. 459 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: He needs ten more carries than that. At least you 460 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: do that. You're sitting at one hundred and fifteen yards 461 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: or so. And and you know, I thought he his 462 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: worst play was the was the block that he missed. 463 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he was standing on the right side 464 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: of the quarterback there, but I mean that they just 465 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: got him. But the run right after that, the very 466 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: next run, I mean I remember saying that is a 467 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: big boy run. That's like, all right, I messed this 468 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: thing up at second in eighteen or first and eighteen, 469 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just go and get everything I can. 470 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: He put his space right in it. He did a 471 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: nice job there. But I mean I thought he ran hard, 472 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: did everything he could. They need to give him more carries, 473 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: and they got to move the change to give him 474 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: more carries. See I And I mean I wouldn't be 475 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: upset if they'd given him more carries. But I said 476 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: this last night, I'm not even mad about the carry 477 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: count the run when there in the first half the game, 478 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: the score got away from him. You're in a two 479 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: score hole in the second half. That's what it looks 480 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: like when you're trailing by two scores for most of 481 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: the game. My thing is, dude ran fifteen times for 482 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: sixty nine yards, three catches for seventeen No, No, that's 483 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: them and bad. And that's what we've been saying, is 484 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: Ze going to be more involved in the passing game. 485 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Early returns aren't great, and that really the theme for 486 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: this And to be fair, to be clear, it's one week. 487 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: It's the NFL, Like everybody obviously needs to calm down 488 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: a couple notches. But through one game, we have seen 489 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: nothing to give us confidence that this offense will be different, 490 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: not only just one game, because you got to take 491 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: this back to last year. Well, that's what I'm saying 492 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: is we changed the coaches, we brought in all these receivers, 493 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: we did this, we did that, we traded for Tavon. 494 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: There's no reason to believe that anything's different and and honestly, 495 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: more so than Tavon and anything else, Zeke's performance in 496 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: the passing game is what makes me think that. I 497 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: mean because what he got thrown a couple of screens. 498 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: There was an aborted waggle because the Panthers read it 499 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: like a book, and then there was a swing pass 500 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: where maybe other than the Blitz pick up, I thought 501 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: that was that was such a big play because Zeke 502 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: was one on one with either a linebacker or a 503 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: dB and the guy made the tackle for a one 504 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: yard game. If he makes that guy miss, it's probably 505 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: a crucial third down conversion. Maybe a different ball game. 506 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: But I had a lot of green grass absolutely there, 507 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: as if he's one of the best backs in the league, 508 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: that's the play he needs to make. Yeah, but I 509 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: thought he played really well. I need to see more, 510 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: and I put that on coaching, like can my guy go? 511 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: Can he hang in the middle of the field? Can 512 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: he run a Texas route? Can you do some thing 513 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: with him? Literally? I got home last night at one 514 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and turned on you know sports 515 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: center James Connor first went crazy. Okay, first NFL start 516 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: replacing Levon Bell. You know what his receiving line was 517 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: fifty yards I think five catches, for sixty yards. That's 518 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: better than all but two of Zeke's receiving performances in 519 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: his career, and the two that were better were when 520 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: he broke super long screens for touchdowns. And by the way, 521 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: James Connor coming out of college was not considered a 522 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: pass catchy running back like in college, he did it 523 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: very little. Don't tell me that you can't do this 524 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: with an all pro. If a guy making his first 525 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: start can be that involved in the passing game, it's crap, 526 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: and it can it should be better, and that is 527 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: what upsets me the most. It's fine if you got 528 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: to get away from the run when you're down two scores, 529 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: do something else like that's I think people attributed to 530 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. I don't know if he actually said it, 531 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: but everybody's got a great plan until they get punched 532 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: in the mouth. The Cowboys have a great plan and 533 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: we've seen it work when they're the ones doing the punching. 534 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: When they get punched in the mouth, it just they 535 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: just fall apart. And that's the way it is. It's tough, 536 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: and you really, really, when you look at it, you 537 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: start thinking about the fact that you watch a lot 538 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: of teams around the NFL, especially teams that have that 539 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: go to kind of player, whether it's a running back, 540 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: whether it's receiver, they get into crunch time, they get 541 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: into times of the game when they're having a hard 542 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: time moving the ball, and they start feeding those guys. 543 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: I mean, like play after play after play, and the 544 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys seemed, for whatever reason, right now, there's only one 545 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: of those guys on this team right now. That's Zeke. 546 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: So when you get into that situation, like you said, 547 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: whether it's in the running game or in the passing game, 548 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: get him the ball, figure out creative ways to get 549 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: him the ball in space, and let him do what 550 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: he does because he is your best player. If you're 551 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: gonna lose, at least lose on the back of your 552 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: best player, right Yeah, I mean, like he should touch 553 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: the ball upward of twenty two times per game, all 554 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: things considered. It doesn't always have to be carries. It's yeah, 555 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: it's it's not ideal. Let's talk about the I was 556 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna say, move to defense. Actually I was gonna talk 557 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: about the receivers. Okay, go ahead, Okay, did you you 558 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: want to say something? What was the main thing that 559 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: you guys noticed when that was the change, when the 560 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: ball was finally able to get moving, and that got 561 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: into the end side, they went to their two minute offense. 562 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: Basically they were in spread, and they were in eleven 563 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: personnel and they were basically just moving the ball. And 564 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: they've done that before. When they tend to find themselves 565 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: in games where they can't really get anything going, they'll 566 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: go into their two minute and usually that gives them 567 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more no huddle. You know, it moves 568 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: a little fast, you got a little bigger, a little 569 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: better pace, and it tends to get him into a flow. 570 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: And that's when they got that one drive that drove 571 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: all down the field. I think it was a ten 572 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: play drive. They ended up with a touchdown. They were 573 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: exclusively in two minute and there was no third down 574 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: except for the one run that deck went eleven yards 575 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: or nine yards on the scramble. Right. But that he 576 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: was I mean, he was bad. Objectively, he did not 577 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: have a good game. I think we would all agree 578 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: on that. But and I Nick tweeted this during the game, 579 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: that was that was a gutsy drive on his part. 580 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: I'll give credit where it's dude, like that third down 581 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: conversion fighting those guys off to get the two point conversion. 582 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: Just I mean, there's there's reason to believe that this 583 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: thing can work. But you got it's got to show 584 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: up for more than three minutes of a sixty minute game. 585 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: You want so hard to like him because he does. 586 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: He says the right thing, he typically wears the right thing. 587 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: I kind of wonder about that one. But for the 588 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: most part, like he's you know, he you know, he's 589 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: playing like a like a warrior. He tries to play 590 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: the game like like you see Newton plant and stuff 591 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: like that. You just wonder what his capabilities are throwing 592 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: the ball. And it begs the question if teams have 593 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: started to figure him out. I mean, they look like 594 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: they did last year. What was one of your question, 595 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna get to that good, very good now 596 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: I was gonna get to Okay. For example, last year, 597 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the times that we come in in 598 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: the second quarter, in the second part of the game 599 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: and not second quarter, second half of the game, and 600 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: you would see them doing some things and moving the ball, 601 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: but by that time it's freaking too late, Like whatever 602 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: you do, it doesn't matter. And we saw it last 603 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: year too, where you can't rely on just your defense, 604 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 1: like your defense is gonna get tired. We saw it 605 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: in this game. They can be as good as they 606 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: could be, Like they could be great. I don't believe 607 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing, Like, you know, defenses win games. They do, 608 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: but you need to freaking score points otherwise you're not 609 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: getting anywhere. So this whole thing was like, yeah, it's 610 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: exciting to see the defense and the progress that we've 611 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: been seeing. But by the second half of the game 612 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: this time, fourth quarter, by that time, it's way too late. 613 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: You need to figure it out and start doing things. 614 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: You really know the things that that can't do. You 615 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: really know what your players can't do. So now figure 616 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: out how to make it work with what they can do. 617 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: And they've pointed out a lot of those things too. 618 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: Where okay, how do you how do you you delize 619 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: State in Austin this team better or not ever? Ever 620 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: take the ball to start the game ever again not not, 621 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean one of your biggest thing. It was, well, 622 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: it's it's always been one of my biggest things. Now, 623 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: now yesterday wasn't their choice. I'm not saying it was. 624 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: But the strength of this team has changed, It's changed 625 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: it's changed right in front of him. You just said, Amber, 626 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: you said they know what Dak Cannon can't do. Do 627 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: they like? Do they really do? They really still wonder 628 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: that he can be the guy because they need to 629 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: figure that out. Their strength on this team is defense. 630 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: For this team, if they get in a situation where 631 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: they win the toss, they need to defer. They need 632 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: to go play defense. Why are you looking at me 633 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: like this? Would you like to make a lunch bet 634 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: that they don't Yeah, yeah, next time they win the toss, 635 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: whether it's Sunday. I'm kind of I'm kind of we oh. 636 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: I know because knowing this team, I agree with your point. 637 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: But knowing this team and kind of how they do 638 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: things at times, I would not be shot at all. 639 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: They say we're taking the ball, I'm waiting out for 640 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: you going to try to score. Okay, that's that's a 641 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: one change that needs to be made. I'm waiting for 642 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 1: you to ask if there needs to be another. I'm 643 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: like waiting for you. Okay, So let's get actually, let's 644 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: get into that, because I do think that's a worthy conversation. 645 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk right now about how creative 646 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: the offense is being called, and how they're using DAK 647 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: and how they're doing things in order to get Zeke involved. 648 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: And we talked about tavon Austin. Do you think at 649 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: this point that maybe there is a scenario where you 650 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: should consider going back to Jason Garrett calling the plays 651 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: versus having Scott Lenahan calling the plays. I think that's 652 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: something that has to happen here somebody. I think that 653 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: there needs to be some kind of change here, because, 654 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: like you said, it's one game. It's still early in 655 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: the year, but it's not too early for these trends 656 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: to be to be that. We've seen these trends, and 657 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: I've seen other teams do this where it's like, all right, 658 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: you kind of go into this year like all right, 659 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: let's make sure it's different, and when it's not, the 660 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: first sign that it's not, you have to do something different. 661 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: Hopefully they had some kind of recourse in place. I 662 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: think you're right, and I think they need to make 663 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: a change. I think Jason Garrett could could be the 664 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: play caller. Don't know what that means as far as 665 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: job status and all that stuff, but I do think 666 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: that you you need to switch something up here. And 667 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: I think. You know, he's been a pretty good play caller. 668 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't care what you think about him as a 669 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: game manager, all this stuff. From a play caller standpoint, 670 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: he's done a good job over the course of his career. 671 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Maybe also had Tony though, that was that was a 672 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: big difference. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I mean most 673 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: people will say Tony was the best play caller they've had. 674 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: I mean there may be something to that too. Well. 675 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: They never didn't. They always moved the ball in two minute. 676 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: He was the play caller always. Yes, well maybe, I 677 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: mean that moved the ball in two minute two I 678 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: mean i mean, you can't look the whole game. I'm sorry, 679 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: that's a I don't know. That's that's interesting. I mean, 680 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: they're certainly precedent for it. I was talking to somebody 681 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: about that this morning. The Bengals outright fired their offensive 682 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: coordinator after two games last year. I mean, they got 683 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: shut out twice in a row, or you know, close 684 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: to it, and they just bye bye. John Payton got 685 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: it stripped from him when he was in New York 686 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: like people, I mean, before he became the great Sean 687 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: Payton as a head coach, he was him with the Giants. 688 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: Point being, it can definitely happen. Other point being, it 689 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: flies in the face of everything we have established about 690 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's tenure here, Like that's just not something that 691 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: they do. So that would be hold on, I just 692 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 1: want to stop you right there. What what did we 693 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: figure out when we talked about Bill Callahan? Yeah earlier? 694 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: Was that when you right, am I am I crazy? 695 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: Or was that not like an off season that was 696 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: an off season thing they brought in Scott Linahan. After 697 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: they brought in Scott Linahan after the twenty thirteen season, 698 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Scott Linahan was like the passing game coordinator and Bill 699 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: Callahan was the running game coordinator, which again, they don't 700 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: just get rid of people. That's not something that they do, Okay, 701 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: But something happened in the middle of the season where 702 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: I remember Callahan. I'm pretty sure that Garrett went to 703 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: calling plays like in the middle of the season. I'm 704 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to look this up or figure out. You 705 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: might that sounds familiar. You might be right, jeried never 706 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: or fire a coach in the middle of the season 707 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: until the season with Wade right, hey, there's the first 708 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: time for everything, and that honestly and I'm the first 709 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: one to say, like, no, the status quo is always 710 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: typically the way it goes. But like, like I literally 711 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: I pulled up the scoreboard from the league, Like three 712 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: teams didn't score ten points yesterday, and two of them, 713 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: Buffalo and in Arizona, are widely considered to be in 714 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: the running for the number one overall pick. If I mean, 715 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: it's embarrassing if it doesn't, I mean, hey, if it 716 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: doesn't change something, will I guarantee you? I mean, that's 717 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: not you don't lose anything by making any change. At 718 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: this point, what are you gonna lose? You don't have 719 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: anything else to lose. Like that, end point accurate statement. 720 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: That feels a little dramatic to go back to, offensively 721 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: what they've been doing from last year into this year. 722 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean, are you saying you gotta be worse than that? 723 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: In that? In that I agree, But I'm basically I get. 724 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, and I'm 725 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: not here to sugarcoat it. That sucked. It was so 726 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: bad it hurt. I still it's still one game. It's 727 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: still just one you know. It was crazy right now 728 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: that Dave is talking us all off the lage, like 729 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: that's that's that's when we know something is wrong here. 730 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't agree though I think you're one 731 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: game into the season, but I don't think it's one game, 732 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: and I think that you know, you'll agree with me 733 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: here that this is a troubling pattern that's been happening. Absolutely. 734 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: You said it on the plane yesterday. You said it's 735 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: hard not to score ten points in the league. And 736 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: yet in the last what seven games? Five? Five? That's embarrassing. 737 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: Five times that they haven't managed to do it in 738 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: the last or ten I mean going back to what 739 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: was the first game of that side, going back to 740 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta last year. Okay, this is like the fifth time 741 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: that they haven't scored more than ten points. It was 742 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: historically bad last year, right, didn't the Atlanta Chargers m 743 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: Philly again? Again? And now yesterday said that's that's nine games, 744 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: and that's five times in nine games that you've you've 745 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: scored less than ten points. It's quite mean. You have 746 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: to try to be that bad in the NFL. Well, 747 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean in a league, in a series two, in 748 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: a league where the nine or ten point underdog Bucks 749 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: went into the Superdome and put fifty on the Saints. 750 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: You can't score ten points, ye, And I'm not talking 751 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: about winning. It's hard to win on the road in 752 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: the NFL too, score ten points. My god. And by 753 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: the way, but I was just saying, I thought I 754 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: was gonna really have this cool stat. I started looking 755 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: in the media guy to like figure out, when's the 756 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: last time they won with something less than ten? And 757 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: I got one game. I forgot they won that game. 758 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: You're six nothing like that because you spent you spent 759 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: eight months trying to purge that that wasn't a real game. 760 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: But like, yeah, it was like taking it. But by 761 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: the way, for those people out there who won a 762 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: point two, well they let Dez Bryant go. This also 763 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: goes back to when Dez Bryant was here. So I'm 764 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: not saying des Bryant was the problem last year. What 765 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: I am saying is he wasn't a part of the solution, 766 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: and not having him means you, I mean, they are 767 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: still having the exact same problems they were having when 768 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: he was point That's the biggest problem for me, though, 769 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,479 Speaker 1: is you see so many elements change, but you're still 770 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: getting the same freaking result. So that is what is 771 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,959 Speaker 1: more I know you're setting. I know you're serious because 772 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,959 Speaker 1: you've said freaking like five times. Yes, did I point 773 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: me in the direction of a person that thinks Dez 774 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: Bryant changes the outcome of that because I got a bridge. 775 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: I want to sell him honestly him. Well, he tweeted it, 776 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, did you hear Alan Hurn going 777 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: off in the locker room about it? No? No, No, 778 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, did I miss something? The difference here? Although, 779 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: let me ask you this question, do you think that? 780 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: And actually, this time for a sake of break, I'll 781 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: ask this question when we come back. I want to 782 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: talk about No, we haven't. We haven't to give talking. 783 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think, maybe though, that this 784 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: team needs more dog type mentalities, those kind of guys 785 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: that are so so so riled up about not winning 786 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: that maybe it is like that maybe you need that 787 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: in order to be successful in the NFL. I don't know, 788 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: but I think it's a question worth asking, and I 789 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: want you guys answer when we come back to the 790 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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Back 828 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: to the break Welcome back. This is the final segment 829 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: of The Break Black from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At 830 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: the start, we're talking Cowboys versus Panthers, and I posed 831 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: the question right before the break, is this a situation 832 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: where you know we we've already I've already mentioned that. 833 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that Dez was a part of the 834 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: solution because last year they were having these same offensive problems. 835 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't think necessarily that Jason Witten was a part 836 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: of the solution because he was here last year when 837 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: they were having the same situation. But I do wonder 838 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: if not having those kinds of guys. What I mean 839 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: by that is the kind of guys that are that 840 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: are are way more emotional, because you could talk about 841 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: Dez throwing tantrums and all that, but Jason was just 842 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: as emotional. Like Jason took losses really hard, and you 843 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: could tell by the way he responded to people after 844 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: the game that he did. Excuse me, not having those 845 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: kind of guys, or at least those kind of guys 846 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: that we can perceive. Maybe they're there and they just 847 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: hold it back and they don't show us, But not 848 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: having those guys that we can perceive with that dog 849 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: type mentality does that hurt you? Does that is that 850 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 1: one of those things that maybe you need in order 851 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: to be successful in the NFL. And maybe the Cowboys 852 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: at least offensively may not have enough of those guys. Yes, 853 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: they do need more of that because when this this 854 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: thing has to matter, it has to hurt at some point. 855 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 1: Because if it does, if it really bothers them, uh losing, 856 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: then then you you'll fix it. On Monday. We talk 857 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: about this all the time. You'll you'll work harder on Tuesday. 858 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: You'll watch more film on Wednesday, and you'll practice better, 859 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: and Cristoper and and you'll you'll figure things out more 860 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: and it'll be it'll you'll things will matter more. Um 861 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: and that and that's just what. And I don't know 862 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: who that leader is. I really don't. They are offensive line. 863 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: You've got three guys that they're they're not vocal leaders 864 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: that we see that we see, um. But you have 865 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: to be a great player to be a leader. You know, 866 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: everyone always talks about NFL leaders, Well, who's the best 867 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: leader of all time? I'm like Ray Lewis, Michael Irvin, 868 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 1: those are Hall of famers. Like you can't just be 869 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: a good player that messes up every now and again 870 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: and then you're a leader. And I don't know if 871 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: they have that guy. I don't think I buy this 872 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: just and I've said this before, but I look at 873 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: myself when I think about that, because if you look 874 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: at me from an outsider's perspective on almost any given day, 875 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: you would think that I don't really care that much 876 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: about my job. I think that's a fair criticism, and 877 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: I also know that it's not true. I care deeply 878 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: about my job. I put a lot of work into 879 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: hopefully being good at it. But you don't have to 880 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 1: hit people for a living. Oh no, and thank God 881 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: for that. But that's my point though. I think there's 882 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: a part to that. Okay, let's hold on, let him finish, 883 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: because I think I want to sit here. What he's saying, 884 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe. And there is something to 885 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: be said for that. This is a violent, physical game. 886 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: There is emotion that goes into it. Case in point, 887 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: Zach Martin, he's probably the best player on this team. 888 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: He's not like that. I guarantee you he's a mean 889 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: soob on the line, and I guarantee you he gives 890 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: a crap what happens. I don't necessarily buy that you 891 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: need to have that wear your heart on your sleeve 892 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: mentality to be a leader, right can I can? I 893 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: clarify though, Can I clarify though, I'm not saying this 894 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: has to be somebody who is wears it on their 895 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: sleeve as much as it is like if he is 896 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: a mean so ob during the game. That's what I'm 897 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: talking about. And my question is, do you think they 898 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: have enough of those mean sobs during the game on 899 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. Here's that have that 900 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: kind of dog mentality? How about this screw the mentality? 901 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if they have enough good players? Yeah, Like, 902 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair. Unfortunately for me, I'm I'm struggling 903 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: to come up with the counter example, like a strong 904 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 1: silent I mean, for so long that was Tyrann Smith. 905 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: Unfortunately did not play a good enough game for me 906 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: to feel comfortable using him. As you've seen left out 907 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: tackles in the NFL who are really really good that 908 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: aren't really really outspoken. I mean, it's been tying for 909 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: a decade. There's been a lot of those guys that 910 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: acrost the NFL. I just I don't believe that you 911 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: need to have that desmntality. I think you need to 912 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: be really good and care a lot. Hell, I'm gonna 913 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut you off on this part. And I'm 914 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: not trying to bring anything specific to the air that 915 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: we deal with. But you talked about your job and 916 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: what you do and people perceive you and all that 917 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: which isn't true and all that, and I believe that 918 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right in that. But let's say 919 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: another writer or another we have four other stories over here, 920 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: and three of them the head they linked to the 921 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: wrong story. They messed up. Our headline wasn't here. We 922 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: had the wrong picture here. Your two stories were good 923 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: and they had no errors in it, and they were great, 924 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: but these other three things kind of messed up, and 925 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: overall the whole website when you looked at it, did 926 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: not look very good. And so you're like, yeah, I care, 927 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: I did a good job, But do you care enough 928 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: to say and I'm not specifically, I'm saying, do you 929 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: say that's got to be better? Like you have to 930 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: be better to say that to your teammates, to say 931 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: your teammate, it's like, because you did your job, your 932 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: stories were good, but these two weren't good. So Zach 933 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: Martin the only one can say, I've blocked my guy 934 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: all day long, but you didn't. And you didn't and 935 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: you gotta get open. That's what they need. They are 936 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: doing that, like, I'm sure they're not gonna do that 937 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: in front of us. That's true, all true, and that's 938 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: that's the point of what I was prefacing when I 939 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: asked the question. We don't know if they're doing that 940 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. What I'm saying, though, is do you 941 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: need to have that? And I think I believe that 942 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: you do need to have players that hold other players accountable, 943 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: and that means calling guys out. If if you're a leader, 944 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: calling guys out who are not doing their jobs, so 945 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: that everybody knows that. Ultimately, you have to be accountable 946 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: to your teammate. I'll say this like, sorry, obviously not 947 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: the offense, but as far as let's say, for example, 948 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: Sean Lee, we all know how much he cares about 949 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: this game, and it's very obvious, but he's a very 950 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: quiet guy, at least you would think. So now where 951 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: that changed my mind? It's like when we get to 952 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: training camp and you get to see more of the 953 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,479 Speaker 1: real action happening there and you start paying attentions. Oh crap, dang, 954 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: he's pretty vocal, exactly exactly, So it's like you just 955 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: never really know how vocal these guys are when they're 956 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, doing their own thing in private, versus why 957 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: we get to see from the outside. Absolutely I agree to. 958 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there are guys like that on this team, 959 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: whether it's Sean, whether it's DeMarcus. Okay, hey, I'll take 960 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: any of those offensive linemen as far. And they're not 961 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: the yelling types, but they talk about it all the time, 962 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: the standard that they set Zeke and Dak for that matter. 963 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: Dak's got to play better. But we can't sit here 964 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: for eighteen weeks in twenty sixteen and talk about what 965 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: an effortless and natural leader Dac is and then just 966 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: throw that out the window when he's not playing well. 967 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: I think it's there on both sides. It just again, 968 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: do they have enough good players? We don't know, And 969 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: again it's one week, but the early indications are not good. 970 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: Right now. It doesn't look like right now for whatever reason, 971 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: it's working. So whether they don't have enough good players, 972 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: whether they're not calling the right plays, whether they're not 973 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: putting their guys in the right positions, whether they're overmatched 974 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: because of guys that are out like there are a 975 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: lot of different things that it can be. What we 976 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: do know is it didn't work. Yes, you had good 977 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: players last year, it wasn't working. This year you switched 978 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: it up. It's still not working. And it goes I think, 979 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to you know whatever, but it 980 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: goes beyond that. I mean, at this point you've seen 981 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: different kinds of players, and it's upsetting when you see 982 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: to me, when you see like a great player like 983 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: Jason went and leave without nothing. Okay, but let me 984 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: ask you this question. Do you think we're sent to 985 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: some degree undervaluing what Travis Frederick means to this offense 986 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: for them to give up six sacks yesterday and on 987 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: several of those situations it seemed like maybe they just 988 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: weren't in the right place at the right time, or 989 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: they just kind of something was a little off. I mean, 990 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: is are we seeing right now the result of not 991 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: necessarily his play, but having his ability to be able 992 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: to make the calls, to be able to get everybody 993 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: where they need to be and know what they're what's 994 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Do you think that maybe that's more of 995 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: a problem than we anticipated it would be. Yeah. Yeah, Well, 996 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: in a hard to know but I'm I'm giving his 997 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: first game without him. He he's never missed a game. 998 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: He missed a game. Have they given up that mini 999 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 1: with that offensive line? They've never played with that offensive 1000 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is when you've got, when 1001 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: you've had, when you've had Tyrant and Track, I mean 1002 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: Tyrant and Zach without well, you haven't had without Frederick. 1003 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: But with Frederick, let's say, with the three of them 1004 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: and whoever other two you want. With those three, have 1005 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: they ever given him six sacks? I doubt it, But yeah, 1006 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: because that last year you go to Atlanta, but they 1007 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: didn't have the three of them. I'm I'm not gonna 1008 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy it in this case. I just 1009 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: I can't because you you and I know nobody could 1010 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: have seen what happened in Travis coming. But you had 1011 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: the offseason, you brought back Joe, You took all these steps. 1012 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: Joe has been in the starting lineup for three weeks 1013 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: at this point, and I haven't had a chance to 1014 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: go back and watch it. I don't remember. I don't 1015 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: think Joe was terrible. I mean, but he's also the thing. 1016 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: Elliott Zeke ran for four point six per carry, but 1017 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: the reason, the reason why you put that rookie out 1018 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: there at guard and you felt okay about it is 1019 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: because of the guys that were beside him. Joe may 1020 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: have been able to do his job. Is he good 1021 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: enough to be able to do his job and help 1022 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: out with the with Connor Williams, I saw him try. 1023 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: It doesn't necessary. It didn't always work out, but it's 1024 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: still not as it shouldn't be as bad to get 1025 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: you to the point where you can't move around, and 1026 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a good enough excuse. And if 1027 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: if it had looked like Denver, like literally ten rushing yard, 1028 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: like you can't do freaking anything like that's the that 1029 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: was different. No, absolutely, I mean it looked a lot 1030 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: like Denver, but it was better. I mean the offense 1031 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: there were flashes of competency when there weren't flags and 1032 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: sacks and bad decisions, and I just think of play 1033 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: call was very predictable and not innovative in the slightest 1034 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: And on top of that, Dak wasn't good, he wasn't 1035 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: hidden people. I mean, the Jarwin throw just has burned 1036 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: into my brain, like I saw enough to think that 1037 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: it could have been different with better execution. I guess 1038 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: that's my point. Like if it had just been a 1039 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: nightmare from beginning to end, where you had no hope 1040 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: that they were ever going to do anything, then I 1041 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: might be talking more about Travis Frederick. But there was 1042 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: enough there to make me think they could have done 1043 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,479 Speaker 1: more if they'd played and coached better. But that's also 1044 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: the problem I think when and again I'm not I 1045 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: don't want to get too far into this debate, but 1046 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: I believe that when you don't, when you make the 1047 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: decision that you're not going to play guys in the preseason, 1048 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna in some instances, as was the 1049 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: case with Shaun Lee, you're not even going to practice 1050 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: them during training camp. A lot of the time, I 1051 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: think that when you go into this game and guys 1052 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: are not at their best, then it begs the question, 1053 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: did you miss that opportunity? And here's wick and come 1054 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: back and bite you. If this is a nine and 1055 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: seventeen and they lost this game to Caroline, that's the 1056 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: kind of game that could matter when it comes time 1057 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: for tie breaks in the playoffs. Is looking more like 1058 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: a hey, you know, this is a draft pick game, 1059 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: Like you could be picking sixth overall. If you you know, 1060 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: if you didn't win this game and this is a 1061 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: playoff seven nine seven, seen it right now. I just 1062 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they used enough of the field on offense. 1063 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: I think that they they they're just too egotistical to 1064 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 1: think that they're guys and this scheme works, that you 1065 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: can just bring everyone down and Terrence Williams in the 1066 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: box is better than Terrence Williams way over here, and 1067 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: you have more space. Let's just clutter this whole thing up. 1068 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: We're not going down, we're not going side. We're just 1069 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: we're just sitting there and just thinking that our guys 1070 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: and our scheme is better than yours. And it's not. 1071 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: It's it's something that fans, to y'all's credit, you know, 1072 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: I know we roll our eyes at y'all sometimes, and 1073 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for that, but fans have been saying it forever. 1074 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: Is like the refrain from this coaching staff is like, 1075 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: don't worry about them. We focus on ourselves. Maybe you 1076 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 1: should worry about them, and maybe you should scheme, maybe 1077 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: they are a problem, to beat them, and not just 1078 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: scheme to do your own thing, because it ain't working 1079 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: and hasn't been very well for most of the last 1080 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: season and a half. And that's what you that's what 1081 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: you worry about because you're gonna get blue shirt blue 1082 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: shorts today at the press conference, he just sticks with 1083 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: this plan and it's like beating, you know, your head 1084 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: against the wall, like he just this is the plan. 1085 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 1: This is the plan, this is how we do it, 1086 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: and you know what, you need to shuffle the deck 1087 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 1: every now and again. I know it's only one game 1088 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: for this year, but I'm just saying you've got to 1089 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: mix things up a little bit because I think they 1090 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: went out there thinking that what they do it would 1091 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: be better than the Panthers, and it really wasn't close. 1092 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: Just to be petty to your point, I'm going to 1093 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: have a close eye on Rams Raiders tonight because they 1094 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: Sean McVay didn't play any of his guys, and I 1095 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: have a feeling they're gonna look not like that. Even 1096 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: if they don't look awesome, I bet they scored more 1097 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: than eight points. I'm gonna guess that's today now. Of course, 1098 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: let's also think about it from this standpoint. The defense 1099 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 1: they're playing at night is very different in the defense 1100 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: for Cowboys played yesterday. That's a very very different comparison. 1101 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 1: But I get your point, and you're probably accurate. They're 1102 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: probably gonna look really, really good. There is an argument 1103 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: to be made, and I've always said, you run the 1104 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: risk of rust if you don't play your guys. I'd 1105 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: still rather have them available in a game that matters. 1106 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 1: And but you're making the assumption that you're going to 1107 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: lose them if you play them in the preseason. I mean, 1108 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: it happens every year, but that doesn't mean happens to everybody. 1109 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: We don't have to do this right now, the point 1110 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: being that's my personal preference. I'd rather run the risk 1111 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: of looking crappy in Week one than not have them 1112 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: at all, if and on top of that looking crappy. 1113 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: On top of that, it's the NFL. I refuse to like, 1114 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: you can still play and play well and win without 1115 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: optimal conditions, and that's I can't I get all that. 1116 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: But a guy, but a guy like Sean Lee to 1117 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: me is the prime example. Sure, because Sean Lee played 1118 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: an uncharacteristically bad game but today, and I refuse to 1119 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 1: believe that it's not, at least in part because he 1120 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 1: didn't get the number of reps that he needed to 1121 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: get in the preseason. Is actually he is a perfect 1122 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: example because he looked rusty, He didn't look like himself. 1123 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: He missed two or three tackles. Most of it happened 1124 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 1: in the first half and by the second half he 1125 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they buckled down. The defense gave up, losing 1126 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 1: you a game. And in today's NFL. In today's NFL, 1127 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: you only have sixteen of them. Here's the only got sixteen. 1128 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: The defense gave up eighty five yards after halftime. Even 1129 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: if they were rusty from not playing in the preseason, 1130 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: they got it together. They held theirs, but never did. 1131 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: That's my point is that is what it looks like 1132 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: when you're rusty, is like you're like, oh crap, all right, 1133 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: we're not great. We got it, we adjust, We're good. 1134 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: Sixteen points, two hundred ninety three yards. What happened to 1135 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: the offense is not rust. That's just awful football. Like 1136 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: there's a difference, you know what I mean? Eight points 1137 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 1: two of eleven on third down, two hundred and thirty 1138 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: two total yards. Whatever. That ain't rust. That's just bad. 1139 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: In my opinion. Maybe all I'm saying is I do 1140 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: think that that the rust was a factory yesterday. And 1141 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: I believe that in today's NFL, the games are so close, 1142 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 1: the teams are so close, that every single game matters, 1143 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: especially games in your conference and games in your division, 1144 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: because those games are going to be the games that 1145 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: decide who makes the playoffs and who doesn't. And I 1146 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: think if you get to the end of this season 1147 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys were right there and it was one 1148 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: game difference, you're going to look back at this game 1149 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: and say, should they have been a little bit more 1150 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: prepared going into that game by playing those guys a 1151 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: little bit more and maybe possibly being it because this 1152 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 1: was not a game that was out of reach. They 1153 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to win it. If they would have 1154 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: been a little more prepared, maybe they win it. And 1155 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: I think it's just at least worth a conversation. No 1156 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: way to know for sure, you're right. I wish I 1157 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: could bet my paycheck that twenty extra, twenty five extra 1158 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason is not the difference between what 1159 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: we saw and what could have been. Yeah, I don't know. 1160 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to know. I don't believe that. All right, 1161 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys. You want us we'll be back tomorrow. 1162 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 1: We'll give you a big picture look at where they 1163 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: sit at this point, what's happening around the division, around 1164 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: the conference. We'll do that tomorrow for Nicki, even Dave Hellman, Ambergarcia. 1165 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eelson. This has been The Break live on 1166 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This has been a production of 1167 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,359 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.