1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Seaton and the French Kid got in the van. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: That van is unbelievable. Like, there's a shower in there, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: there's a pull out that you can put a TV 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: on a stand and watch it outside. You could hang 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: on on the side of the van. There's a sink 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: in there, there's a bed in there. Yeah, Polly, I've 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: literally lived in apartments that are smaller and much less nice. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean the tires off road tires. Yeah, yeah, as 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: I was told, those tires are murdered. Wow, those tires 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: are murdered out Now I know what that means. But 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: uh yeah, we said goodbye to them. They had the 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: sprinter van in the man cave early this morning and 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Seaton and the French Kid are on the road. We'll 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: hear from them a little bit later on this morning. 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: We'll settle on a pull question, play of the day, 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: stat of the day, all that forthcoming. The big news 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: or there was big news on Saturday when it came 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: out ESPN, Jeff Darlington and Adam Schefter report that Tom 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Brady was retiring. And then I was told, well, this 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: didn't come from Tom Brady's side of the equation. This 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: came from somebody, probably in management. Do you have the 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: exact tweet there, Pauling, Yes, This is two thirty in 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: the afternoon Saturday from Adam Schefter and Jeff Darlington. Quote. 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is retiring from football after twenty two extraordinary seasons. 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Multiple sources tell Jeff Darlington and me more coming soon, 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: breaking news. Yeah, and Jeff Darlington is really tied into 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Brady from his Patriot days and you know Chefty breaking 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: the news with Darlington now. It felt like it was 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: happening immediately. And then I was also told Brady would 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: never break this story on you know, football weekend like that, 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: and he did not. He doesn't want this to get out. 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean this story is not correct. It's 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: just from what I was told by somebody who knows Tom. 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, this will eventually happen. It's just not happening now. 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: And it felt like Brady is going to have a 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: press conference and you're thinking, Okay, he's retiring. Maybe it's 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: just semantics here, but you know, his agent Don Yee 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: said no, this hasn't happened. His dad said no, this 40 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: hasn't happened. The Bucks said no, not yet. Let's bring 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: in Rick Stroud. He covers the Buccaneers for the Tampa 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: Bay Times and a host of Sports Day Tampa Bay podcast. 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Where do we stand with this story? Well, 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: I mean, if you talk to Jason Light, you talk 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: to Bruce Arians, any of the coaches, you know, they 46 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: think that it hasn't happened yet. They think it's possible 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: that he could retire. I mean they were hurt by 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: all this, you know, coming out the way it did. 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: They sort of said, the media jumped the gun a 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: little bit. Eventually, Tom Brady called them, called Jason Light 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: and told him he wasn't close to making a decision yet. 52 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: But come on, now that we just watched his whole 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: career funeral over the weekend, I don't know if you 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: can come back from that one. I keep watching, you know, 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: highlights of Tom Brady. So I'd like to announce my 56 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: retirement on the Dan Packard Show as a guest. If 57 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: it's over, it's this bit obviously a year from now 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: when they get the first overall pick. You know, um, 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: but now, I you know, I expect it happened. But Dan, 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: you know this too, you know, there are. I mean, really, 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: it started Friday night with Jason Luck and Ford and 62 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: the report on CBS, and it kind of stayed out 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: there for twenty hours, and we made our calls and 64 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, now you know, and then everybody 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: became Jason Luck confirma at that point, because you know, 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: we had to see if this was really happening. And uh, 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: you know when you hear Adam Schefter go according to 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: my short, she's I believe Tom Brady willed, you know, 69 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: at that point, you're just like, Okay, it's really happening now. 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna gonna see it happened. But 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be like a Gofram Chopra beautifully 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: directed family in tow and Costa Rica planning trees. It's 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: gonna be something that's that's gonna be Tom Brady esque, right. 74 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is like the Truman Show. Sometimes. 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen after the Super Bowl. I 76 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: was told yesterday and on Saturday that they Tom wants 77 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: to control this, like they want to do it in 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: a way that you know. Tom's social media has been 79 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: unbelievable since he went to Tampa Bay. Now, you don't 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: want to have it like spill out where you got 81 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: the conference title games the next day. I mean, that's 82 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: just not Brady's style. Do I think he's going to retire? 83 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: I do. I just think it was more of the 84 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: semantics of this that it's going to happen. It's just 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: not happening in real time. Do you do you buy 86 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: into that timeline? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: is a week between, you know, the super Bowl, so 88 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: it's possible with the news out, it could happen anytime. 89 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Really this week. He might wait until afterwards. Um, I 90 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: think it's probably gonna be sooner than later. I mean, 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: the Bucks aren't, you know, dying to know if the 92 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: answer is I'm leaving, but they've got to move on too. 93 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: But it's you know, I just think that this is 94 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: going to force his hand a little sooner than he 95 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: wanted it to be. And it's you know, you're right, 96 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: he wants to control this. There's nobody gonna tell him 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: when or how he's going to do this, so he'll 98 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: do it on his own time. But now that the 99 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: news is out, you know, it's probably coming soon. But 100 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're giving Buccaneer fans false hope 101 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: here because he no, no, no, okay, I mean he 102 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: could be Look there's probably I mean, why not clean 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: to the fairy tale, right? I mean, look these two 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: years I've said it was like a meteor streaking across 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: the sky. He got bright, and there was Super Bowls 106 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: and there was playoff games and all of that. And 107 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, I wrote before the Wildcard game and I 108 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: quoted Clyik Christians in say, if I was a fan, 109 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: I'd look at this as like this might be the 110 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: last time we see Tom Brady. But no, I'm not 111 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: giving him false hope. I mean I trust the guy. 112 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: Look the way this works, Dan, you know this In 113 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: the media, I broke a story of years ago about 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels having a deal with the Bucks before Tony 115 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: Dunge coached his last game. Well, I won't say who 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: it was. There's a guy that's set next to Bill 117 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: Parcels at the Mothers Ship that knew this for weeks, 118 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: but he couldn't report it because he was going to 119 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: get the exclusive, and somebody else reported it instead. Now 120 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: what do you do if you know it's true? So, 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know I'm not a llegend conspiracy here, 122 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: but I mean I think that I think that there's 123 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: probably a better than average chance that somebody knew something 124 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: ahead of time, and once it was out there, it's like, well, 125 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: not only is this out there, but it's true, So 126 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: what do we do now? You know? And the media 127 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: couldn't wait at that point, But is there money? A 128 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: chance to this decision? By waiting? No money? There was 129 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 1: a mixed about that. Yeah, that came out. He's listen. 130 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: They did some things with the contract and they deferred 131 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: a signing bonus until February fourth, which is like this Friday, 132 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: I think, and really, if he retires, he owes them 133 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more money than they own him. I 134 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: think it's like sixteen million dollars back and fifteen million 135 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: comes to him. So I don't expect there to be 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: a change of money. I checked with the Bucks. They would, 137 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, they would push that back as far as 138 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to. If he wants to check, if they 139 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: want to forgive it whatever. Um, but that is absolutely 140 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: not I know it was out there, but that's actually 141 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: not a factor, is why he's waiting. Um that that 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: sort of made him look kind of petty and greedy 143 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: and that that's just not not true. What are the 144 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Bucks going to do at quarterback? Oh? Man, Um Jamison, 145 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: here you go, Come on, Hey, he's right down the room. Yeah, 146 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: he's right down the road in osmar Um. You know, 147 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: right now, all they have is Kyle Trask on a contract, 148 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: and I suppose you could resign Blaine Gebert if you 149 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: wanted to, and he could be the bridge quarterback. But look, 150 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Bruce rings has said they will look behind door number two. 151 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: That's how they found Tom Brady. I don't think Aaron 152 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to be standing there because the Green 153 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: Bay Packers aren't trading him to an NFC team. Same 154 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson. Um, you know, can you pry a 155 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Derek Carter? Do you do take a chance on a 156 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: Deshaun I don't know. Maybe maybe Andrew Luck wants to 157 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: come back at age thirty two? You know, I mean, 158 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: they will look under every rock and bush they can, 159 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: but the fact is that, you know, there's just not 160 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of options right now, and they'll have to 161 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: pay who had a premium of draft picks if they're 162 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: going to do it. This is not a free agent 163 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: class that they can really tap into like they did 164 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: with Tom Byron Leftwich one the Jacksonville jump. You know, 165 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: I think he does, but I think he doesn't want 166 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 1: it with Trent Balki and I have not spoken to Byron. 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: This is just my opinion. You know, there were some 168 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: reports about Adrian Wilson coming over from the Cardinals. Look 169 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: the last three or four teams Balkis has been a 170 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: part of, they fired a coach after one year. So 171 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, I've talked to Byron before the season about coaching. 172 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: He's he's definitely wants to be a head coach, but 173 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: he has no timetable. He was an NFL quarterback, has 174 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 1: plenty of money. He's going to pick the right situation 175 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: for him. And I guess New Orleans has him as 176 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: a candidate as well. It makes so much sense. That 177 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: means that Jacksonville Jaguars will screw this up completely and 178 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: not hire Byron Leftwich. Bruce Arian's going to stay his 179 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: head coach in Tampa. He's told me several times he is. 180 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: I know everybody thinks that he would leave. I guess 181 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: anything's possible. But I asked him, you know, with or 182 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: without Brady, and he said No, he's absolutely coaching. If 183 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: he gets Todd Bulls and Byron back, he can have 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: the same process. He's already said that if Brady came 185 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: back and he were to lose, Byron left, which he 186 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: would actually call plays again, which is news right and 187 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: probably a signal to Tom Brady. But I do think 188 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: he'll coach again at least next year. Rick, great to 189 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: talk to you as always, and we'll wait for some 190 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: more drama down there. Do you think that Gronk has 191 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: done in Tampa? As soon as you can get that 192 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: USA insurance, he is just waiting for that and then 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: he'll retire. I feel bad for Gronk. You know he's 194 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: trying to disguise his voice, and you know, maybe he 195 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: joins the military, Ricky, then you could get that insurance exactly. Now. 196 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: I think he's His future, or lack thereof, is probably 197 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: tied to Tom's. He's not played for another quarterback, and 198 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: you know they'll miss him a lot. Man, I'll miss 199 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: him a lot, that's for sure. Thank you. We appreciate 200 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: your time as always, Rick. Thanks. That's Rick Stroud. He 201 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: covers the Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times, host of 202 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: Sports Day Tampa Bay. I think it's inevitable. I think 203 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: it's semantics, and you know, I do. I think somebody 204 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: leak this from the Buccaneers. It feels like that. But 205 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I was told yesterday that this did not come from 206 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's side, that they do want to have a 207 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: big rollout. You don't want to have a kind of 208 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: spill out on a Saturday afternoon, you know, you want 209 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: to have a Wednesday press conference where you go, hey, 210 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: family is going to be there, everybody's gonna be there, 211 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: is Dad's gonna be there, and let the tributes begin. 212 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: But I think that that's that's what's going to happen. Yeah, 213 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: Paul So is all the victual against ESPN, Jeff Darlington 214 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: and Adam Schefter people. I might have to eat their 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: words because they could be right just a week early 216 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: or two weeks early. And which is their job, by 217 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: the way, not their isn't to help Tom Brady produce 218 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: his retirement. Yeah, they did their job, and I trust 219 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: them and their sources absolutely. It's just you know, when 220 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: Brady pushes back and his dad pushes back, and his 221 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: agent pushes back, then it feels like, well, wait a minute, 222 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't think Tom's playing anymore. I don't because I 223 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: even reached out to his source who's friends with him, 224 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: and I said, is this officially official? And uh, you know, 225 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: the person that I was texting with said sent me 226 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: a screen cap of Don Yee his agents, you know, 227 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: kind of rebuttal denial of this. And it just doesn't 228 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: feel like, Hey, Tom hasn't made up his mind about 229 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, not playing, or you know, he's He's indications 230 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: are he's going to play. There's none of that. I 231 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: just think he wants to be able to control it. 232 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: And and I don't think Tom would ever want to 233 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: take away from those games this weekend. I truly don't. 234 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: But you know, the chef d and Darlington, that's not 235 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: their John like they they're not waiting until the right time. 236 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: It's hey, we got this information, let's go with it. 237 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: And do I think they're correct? I do a couple 238 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: of phone calls in here. Naton Cincinnati leads us off. Nate, congratulations, 239 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: thanks man, feels good. It's electric factory here, DP. What 240 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: do you got for me? I got three mock headlines 241 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: for you for the for the Bengals win over the Chiefs. 242 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: Oh my headlines Todd. Here we go, Here we go. 243 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: First one who Zama said, knock you al? Bengals beat 244 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: down Chiefs? All right, how about oh crapple Eli and 245 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: Bengals d shut down the Homes? And then I got 246 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: to throw one to my boy. I actually went to 247 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: high school to this guy. He's a Cincinnati guy. Deserves 248 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: it more than anybody. But order the Hubert x L 249 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: Bengals and Chiefs home from flat playoffs. Okay, all right, 250 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: some some deep cuts there with your mock headlines. Thank you, Nate. 251 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: Todd didn't do mock headlines. But Todd did do a limerick. 252 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: I sure did. And here we go Todd Fritz's limerick. 253 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: Let's get down to the nitty gritty. The Bengals did 254 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: what in Kansas City? Mahomes gets knocked out while Stafford 255 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: shows clout all in rams verse who day? That's pretty okay? 256 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: All right, that's serviceable. Wow, it is a minor not 257 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: even that. I'd say C plus C plus C plus Yeah, 258 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: no mock headlines. How often are the Bengals in the 259 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? It seems like it's a pretty rare event. 260 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: By the way, we do have the Joe Hio T 261 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: shirts that I sold a lot of those, but you 262 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: can go to the website. Joe Ohio. I love that one. 263 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: It looks great too. Yeah. I do have another poll question. Oh, 264 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: who is having a better month? Who had the better month? 265 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow or the field? And the field means everyone 266 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: else on earth? Oh, can you think of another human 267 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: being who had a better month than Joe Burrow at 268 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: the Bank I thought about on the drive in the 269 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: end of the season, played great, played even better in 270 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. The month, He's still got a day to go. 271 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: I think there's twelve hours left in the month. Matthew 272 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:22,479 Speaker 1: Stafford better than Burrow. No, well, Stafford's in the conversation. 273 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: I would think so. But the field includes like eleven 274 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: billion people or something, everybody on earth. Yeah, you know, 275 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: Elon Musk probably had a good weekend. You know, he 276 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: probably made a couple of billion dollars. I don't know 277 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: done that before. Yeah, Bengal in the super Bowl getting 278 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: a billion. There's a lot of billionaires. Yeah, that's Yeah. 279 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: When Joe Burrow showed up in Kansas City and he 280 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: had like he had a look to him, and I 281 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: give you said, Hey, that's a boy band, that's that 282 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: he's the lead singer. But boy band, you would have gone, oh, okay, 283 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: what's the name of the band? Bengal? Oh? Let's bts 284 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: had the shades on like he brought He just walks 285 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: in with swag man who good stuff. Thanks for listening 286 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 287 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or 288 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 289 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports 290 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 291 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or stream 292 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock Act. Let's bring in Marcus Spears. 293 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: The ESPN NFL analysts contributed to get up NFL Live 294 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: Sports Center and it was a big hit last time 295 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: he was on the show. Marcus, thanks for joining us. 296 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,359 Speaker 1: I'm curious that it feels like we can blame Patrick Mahomes. 297 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're given the Bengals enough credit 298 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: for what they did in the second half to him defensively. 299 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: So where do you start? Yeah, I'm starting with the Bengals, man, 300 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: like I'm starting with the team that one because they 301 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: earned it and it was to me one of the 302 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: better adjustments second half defensively that I've seen in a 303 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: long time. And what they did was because when you 304 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: playing against that type of talent, you have to sacrifice 305 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: something or you gotta find like a middle ground to say, hey, 306 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: our percentages will give us more of an opportunity to 307 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: get off the field on third down or more opportunities 308 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: to put the ball back in Joe Burrow's hands. And 309 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: when they went to that three man rush and using 310 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: a D lineman to spy like they did with Hubbard. 311 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: When they start rushing, and you know, I get hype 312 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: DP because this D line talk I'm talking about now, 313 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: I get hype when I start telling about this. But 314 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: those guys were like, and I make this analogy all 315 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: the time on NFL Live, those guys up front were 316 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: like a basketball team where when you pressing, we are running. 317 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: We are trying to run you into a trap. We're 318 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: trying to run you into a forced trap to either 319 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: make you call time out, to make you turn the 320 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: ball over or make a bad pass. And that's exactly 321 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: what they did earlier in that game first half. As 322 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: a D line coach, I'm looking at everything unfold and 323 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself. I just watched Patrick Mahomes a 324 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: week ago rush for seventy yards against the Buffalo Bills 325 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: because they were undisciplined in their pass rush. But I 326 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: also saw the Buffalo Bills rushing for and not having 327 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: enough guys in coverage, with Pat having enough time to 328 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: take advantage of that. So what the Bengals did was 329 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: they say, look, we're gonna turn our defensive line into 330 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: a basketball team, and we are going to press, but 331 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: we also are not going to give up the d 332 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: ball over the top and the guts that you have 333 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: to have to say that. I'm gonna give Patrick Mahomes 334 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: two to three more seconds to survey, but this is 335 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: our best path forward and to see those d lneman 336 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: executed at that level, This game was about Hendrickson Hubbard reader. 337 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: This game was about those guys up front saying we 338 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: are going to sacrifice numbers, We are going to sacrifice 339 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: trying to get sacks or make splash plays, and we're 340 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: gonna contain Petrick Mahomes, and these eight guys in coverage 341 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: got to handle their responsibility on the back end to 342 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: make him hold it long enough for us to eventually 343 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: get some pressure off second half three of eight, fifteen 344 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: yards and intersac interception sacked four times. This is three 345 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: man rush. Yes, DP, I'm telling you, dude, I would. 346 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: I would. What you expect. What I expected from Eric 347 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: being to me and Andy Reid is what I got 348 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: from the Cincinnati Bengals coaching staff, their adjustments. Casey abandoned 349 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: the run and against what they were doing this Cincinnati, 350 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: you gotta run the football you have and we've been 351 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: screaming this, DP. You have to run them out of 352 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: that defense. You gotta run it out of them. You 353 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: gotta scream it. You gotta get quick passes to the 354 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: outside edges and allow your playmakers to make plays. They 355 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: consistently drop back and try to go down fill Let's 356 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: let pat survey. Dude, it's eight people back there. Let's 357 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: hand the football off. Let's make them a jest. And 358 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: the reason why the Kansas City Chiefs even ended up 359 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: in that position is because they decided at a large 360 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: part of this season that we're gonna get McKinnon involved. 361 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna get Claude there was Zilara involved. We're gonna 362 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: get Williams involved. We're gonna throw quick, dumb passes the 363 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: Miko Hardman, We're gonna get the ball into ourreek hands quickly. 364 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: And in this game, for some reason, watching the Cincinnati 365 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: Beings play you in order for you to throw underneath, 366 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: they did not do it, and they did not run 367 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: the football, and it right into what Cincinnati wanted to 368 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: do defensively. And also, and I don't know if it's 369 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: fair to say it, but I thought it in real 370 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: time that ego was playing into the Kansas City Chiefs 371 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: play calling at the end of the first half. Kick 372 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: the damn field goal. You know, you get the ball 373 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: to start the second half, you don't, you know, you 374 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: don't have to, you know, have no timeouts, kick the 375 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: field goal. But it just felt like what I what 376 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: I think is until your point, yes, kick the field goal. 377 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I screamed that to Brandon Stateley all season long with 378 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers. They'd have been in the playoffs if he 379 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: just kicked the damn field goals or punch the ball. 380 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: But I think what happens, man, in those moments. You've 381 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: seen Patrick Mahomes make those plays so much that you 382 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: become drunk to it. And that is another part of 383 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: me saying, because here's what I have to imagine Andy 384 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: Reid was thinking, I'm I'm gonna trust my quarterback because 385 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: we see Lamar do with John Harball all the time. 386 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust my quarterback and eat with five seconds 387 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: on the cloud. If nothing's there, he's gonna do what 388 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: he did the previous play and throw the ball in 389 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: the ground. We're gonna have a second or two left 390 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: and we can kick the field goal. Patrick Mahomes was 391 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: the issue on that play, and I get what you're saying, 392 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: DP one hundred understand it. But for Mahomes to not 393 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: know that situation and not understand and the perplexing thing 394 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: is he did it the play before he key off 395 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: the play. He threw it into the ground and then 396 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: he threw a swing pass. Now I got because there's 397 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: so many sides to this. What Patrick Mahomes is thinking 398 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: also is I got the fastest man on any football 399 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: team in the NFL in the flats. He's gonna make 400 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: a guy missing getting the end zone. Like, let's give 401 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Eli Apple a tremendous amount of credit for coming up 402 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: and making in that play. And football is always like 403 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: that hindsight, right, like don't throw it to the don't 404 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: throw it to the outside to Tyreek Hill. But how 405 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: many times would we say that Tyreek Hill messed up 406 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: man to man. We can get the ball in his 407 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: hands quickly, and let's see if he can make a 408 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: guy miss, because most of the time, majority at the time, 409 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: that's what happens. And I think that's what Andy Reid 410 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: was thinking, and I think that's what Pat was thinking 411 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: on that particular throw. But he should have dad at 412 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: that ball DP and just kicked the field. He's Marcus Spears, 413 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: former NFL lineman. He'll be on NFL Live today the 414 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: entire week at four Eastern and you can see that crew. 415 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: They'll be at the Super Bowl super Bowl coverage on 416 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: the Mothership as well. All right, let's turn our attention 417 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: to the Rams and Niners. It was ten to seven, 418 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: and if I couldn't believe the Niners were leading, it 419 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: just felt like the Rams made it look easy first drive, 420 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: and I'm just I was trying to figure that game out. 421 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: It felt like he was a weight boxing match where 422 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: styles make a match, you know, a boxing match. But 423 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know if either could deliver the knockout blow. 424 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: What was the big difference between you know, the Rams 425 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: winning or the nine ers losing, look no further, DP, 426 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be boring because we love talking about Stafford. 427 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: In the offense, the San Francisco forty nine has had 428 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: fifty total yards Russia. They don't win like that. Deebo 429 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: Samuel had seven rushes for forty something yards, Elijah Mitchell 430 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: had eleven rushes for forty something yards or not even forty, 431 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: like thirty eight or something like that. I just looked 432 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: at it, and that is not conducive DP, what I've 433 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: been saying, bro. And and this is this is where 434 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo comes into the fall, right, because we always 435 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: we go begging forth. I think Jimmy Garoppolo is a 436 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: solid to good NFL quarterback. I do. I firmly believe that. 437 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: But if I'm a defensive guy, if I'm a Raheem Morris, 438 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: I want Jimmy Garoppolo to win the game. That's how 439 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: I want to live with the San Francisco forty nine. 440 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: And let's go through a couple of sequences of events. Right, 441 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: you you miskittle over the middle, which potentially could have 442 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: been if not a touchdown. You get three points out 443 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: of that. Right, that was a huge you miss, I 444 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: think Brandon, now you backside and Jalen Ramsey drops the interception. 445 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: You there's all there. I'm going, I'm I got both 446 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: games in my head. DP. This is my sheet. This 447 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: is my sheet from the game breakdowns. I'm breaking I'm 448 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: breaking the games down. But but I think there was 449 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: another another potential for an interception as well. But what 450 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: the Rams did from a defensive standpoint was they got 451 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: this game in Jimmy Garoppolo's hands. And what the Rams 452 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: were thinking is I got Aaron Donald, I got Vum, 453 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: I got Lena Floyd, Greg Games, who's been playing phenomena 454 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: by the way, doesn't get a lot of credit, big 455 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, and Ashaan Robinson has been playing well. Those 456 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: two guys, particularly Ashaan Robinson and Greg Games, helped with 457 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: the run. They did a phenomenal job defending the run. 458 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: But DP, this is why you have closers. This is 459 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: why you go get von Miller. This is why you 460 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: go get avram if you the Kansas City Chiefs, this 461 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: is why you sign a Trey Hendrickson in the off season, 462 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: if you the Cincinnati Bengals, Because playoff games comes down 463 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: to this, do you have the quarterback that's gonna make 464 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: the play, or do you have the closers. Think about 465 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: when Payton won hit Super Bowl in Denver, it was 466 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: the Marcus Waring von Miller. Those were those were the closers. 467 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: So the Rams got this game in Jimmy Garoppolo's hands, 468 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: laid in the game, and they got the best closers 469 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL, or one of the best, if not 470 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: the best ever, in Aaron Donald. And I'm not just 471 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: talking about that particular player. I'm talking about a sequence 472 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: of events that leads up to this game being in 473 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's hands. Ce Sean McVay felt comfortable with his 474 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and the game being in his hands, laying the game. 475 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan coaches around that. He tries to coach around that. 476 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: But when Deebo Samuel doesn't have those big twenty and 477 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: thirty yard impact plays, he had the one screen that 478 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: he took to the critter and other than that, that 479 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: was it. And then Shanahan didn't get the ball in 480 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: Deebo's hands laid in the game either. There's a lot 481 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: of blame to go around DP, But if you want 482 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: to break this game down in a nutshell. Like you 483 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: just asked me, I said a lot to say this. 484 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: They gave up fifty yards of Russian and they made 485 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo beat him and he couldn't do it. Now. 486 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy in Week seventeen in the regular season, he made 487 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: all of the throws in the second half to get 488 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: that team the league, to get San Francisco the league. 489 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: And even still with that evidence that Raheem morris head, 490 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: he still said, let's get this game in Jimmy Garoppolo's hands, 491 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: and we feel good about our chances. Why are the 492 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: Rams only three and a half point favorites of the 493 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Bengals at home in the Super Bowl? Because Joe Burrow 494 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: is that dude. Bro, there's no more obviously denying it. 495 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: But I think when you look at like Cincinnati, even 496 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: through this run, we are still trying to wrap our 497 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: head around your offensive line not being elite and you 498 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: about to play in the Super Bowl. But it speaks 499 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: to the talent DP and that's what it is. It's 500 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: the talent man. It's Jamar Chase. When Jamar Chase is 501 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: being doubled, it's Te Higgins going off for a hundred yards. 502 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: It's Tyler boy at making plays. When you lead runs, 503 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: it's Joe Mixon and I'm gonna get an offensive line 504 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: some credit in that they created pass in order to 505 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: make I don't think because Cincinnati won and we get blinded. 506 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: That last drive to get a suit a field goal 507 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: was elite. That is what we expect from the teams 508 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: that we've grown accustomed to making those type of drives. 509 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: In that game, after Petremones turnal in overtime, the Cincinnati 510 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: Bengals went to a physical run game and they said, 511 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, you gotta lead the way with a few throws, 512 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: all right. And we looked at this team two weeks ago, 513 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: get their quarterback got sacked nine times DP and they 514 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: won the freaking game. Man. So ultimately, what is happening 515 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: now The Cinnati Bis people are starting to realize that 516 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: that dude that wears number nine, he can overcome a 517 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of deficiencies that they have as a football team. 518 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: And then we have to pick out paus and offensively 519 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: because if we do double Jamar Chase, we got they 520 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: got some other guys that can make you paying someone 521 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: on one situations. And when you found the one on 522 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: one with Chase later in the game it was a touchdown, 523 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: so I understand it now. I think this is the 524 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: toughest matchup for him. Based on what I just said 525 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: about Aaron Donald Vun Mill and all of those guys, 526 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: I think this is the toughest matchup. I think if 527 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: I think if Aaron Donald has Joe Burrow in his 528 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: grasp like Chris Jones did, and he misses that first tackle, 529 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald can run Joe Burrow down and make the 530 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: second play as far as trying to clip his legs 531 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: from under them. Those are the game changing tight plays DP, 532 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: because like we never imagine a blowout in the Super Bowl. 533 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: We never imagine that a team is gonna come out 534 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: like Seattle did Denver and that the game just goes 535 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: like that. And you like, damn man, that was that 536 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: was very anti cloud magic, you know when we start 537 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: thinking about But since he just got something until your 538 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: point what you asked me earlier, that defense amen, like 539 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: if Eli Apple is not getting exploited in certain situations 540 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: in coverage and the Woozia is not getting taken advantage of, 541 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: and they can protect those guys a little bit. Because 542 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: I think Bates and Bail on the back end as 543 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: good as safety combo as you can get in the 544 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: league outside of Parian Hide in Buffalo. That defense up 545 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: front though, with hendrickson the way Reader has been playing 546 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: to run Hubbard and what they're able to adjust and 547 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: Marph into They are big too, DP their physical defensive life. 548 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: Think about this too. The Cincinnati Bengals don't have those 549 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty pound defensive ends. They don't. They 550 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: got those big, physical guys that can stay on the 551 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: field one through three downs and they are a lead 552 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: enough to rush the pass. So so this this is 553 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: a good football team outside of what we've seen from 554 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: that offensive line at times. And look, man, like you know, 555 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm a Louisiana guy, I'm an LSU guy. You could 556 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: believe it if you want to. But nine just has it, 557 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: just has that special gene that that in those moments, 558 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 1: I bet you DP in those damn moments with Joe Burrow, 559 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: we could check his blood pressure and then or its 560 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: heart rate. It'll be at a resting pace. Who is man, man, 561 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: could you bench Orlovsky, Mina Kimes and Laura Rutledge all 562 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: three at the same time? Yeah, no doubt, Yeah, I 563 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: think all three of them together, maybe three forty. But 564 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: I can't throw Keyshan in there. You thro geta. I 565 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: got put Damien Woodie in there either. I can't do 566 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: that either. Maybe by yourself, but not not. Yeah, thank you, budd, 567 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: have a great week, and thanks again for joining us. 568 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: As always, man, I look forward to talking to you again. 569 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: That's Marcus Spears, ESPN NFL Analyst and he'll be on 570 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: NFL Live Monday through Friday at four Eastern. Thanks for 571 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 572 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern 573 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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This isn't your typical sports 580 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: pod pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. 581 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: Straight Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest 582 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: sports headlines, accurate stats to help you win big at 583 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: the sports Book and all the best guests. Do yourself 584 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: a favor and listen to Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre 585 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get 586 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Former Raider quarterback Cardinal quarterback Bengal quarterback Carson 587 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: Palmer joining us on the program. Who were you rooting 588 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: for between Kansas City and the Cincinnati Bengals? Carson? I 589 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: was rooting for the Bengals. No fan base deserves this 590 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl berth more than the Cinci Bengals. What were 591 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: you thinking when it was twenty one to three, I 592 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: thought there was a shot. Things Things really just obviously 593 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: went sideways for Kansas City. They went from on offense. 594 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes took over the first half by just really 595 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: taking what the defense was given up. And then in 596 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: the second half, it was weird. He threw that one 597 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: touchdown the Tyree Hill in the back of the end 598 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: zone in the red zone where he was kind of 599 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: running around and moving in the pocket and then roll 600 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: out to the right, and he loves those kinds of plays, 601 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: you can tell, and he kept looking for that in 602 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: the second half, and what got them to that big 603 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: lead in the first half was just taking what the 604 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: defense was given them, and he absolutely stopped doing that. 605 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: He started dropping back in the second half, moving in 606 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: the pocket, spinning out, rolling left, rolling right, and it 607 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: just wasn't working because the Bengals defense just sat back 608 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: and cover two and cover four and played zone and 609 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: watched everything underneath them and didn't give him any of 610 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: those big shots down the field. I just don't know 611 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: why they didn't run the ball. If you're going to 612 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: get a three man front, you can get to that 613 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: second level and if you set up screen pass whatever 614 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: it was. It just felt like maybe ego got the 615 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: better of them, but it felt like they were trying 616 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: to do something great instead of just being methodical well, 617 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: and that's what got them there. McKinnon was unbelievable the 618 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: last three weeks. I mean that he has been so 619 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: difficult to tackle. He's been so dynamic and screen game, 620 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: but really running the ball downhill. With the absence Edwards 621 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Hilaire with the ankle injury, McKinnon came in and was unbelievable. 622 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: Nobody was tackling him in the first tackle, he was 623 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: breaking tackles, he was explosive, and then they just stopped 624 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: giving him the ball unfortunately, But would you rather face, 625 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, pressure or eight guys in the secondary and 626 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: a three man rush as a quarterback pressure all day. 627 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: I think every quarterback is more comfortable when you know 628 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: you've got one on ones outside. It gets really difficult 629 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: when they do those three man those three man blitzes 630 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: with a three defensive lineman. Now you've got eight guys 631 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: dropping in coverage more often not covering three and sometimes 632 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: four guys. So pressure is always a quarterback. Quarterbacks are 633 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: always looking for pressure. Joe Burrow does such a good 634 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: job of diagnosing it, and that's why they're where they are. 635 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: They are not beating people because their offensive line is better. 636 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: They are not dominating the line of scrimmage. Joe is 637 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: absolutely dominating the line of scrimmage. He's redirecting pressures. He 638 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: had him in a situation last night where they were 639 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: bringing a will free safety blitz, a blitz that could 640 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: not be picked up. He redirected the offensive line in 641 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium, which, believe me, is not easy to do. 642 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: And he is winning. He is beating teams himself at 643 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and I know there's a lot 644 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: of guys around him. And I'm not saying it's all 645 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: on him, but he is absolutely taking that team and 646 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: put him on his shoulders and got into the super Bowl. 647 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: And this doesn't happen to a second year quarterback. You 648 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: just don't see this. I mean you see second in 649 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: year quarterbacks. You think back when I was a young 650 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: QB in the league and Ben Roethlisberger came on the 651 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: scene and won a ton of games. You knows as 652 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: a rookie, but they won those games because that was 653 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: the number one defense in the league. He had Jerome Bettis, 654 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: he had Antoine Randolo, he had Plexico Buris, and you 655 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: can go on and on two Hall of famers at 656 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: offensive line. Joe's not doing that with the same supporting cast. 657 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: He is doing it like a twelve, thirteen, fourteen year vet. 658 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: In year two I mentioned this, you know, being from 659 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati area, I just didn't want the Bengals to 660 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: be embarrassed because everybody would say, oh, you're from Cincinnati, 661 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: all the Bungals and you you know this because you 662 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: played there. But when it was twenty one three, that's 663 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: if you would have said, hey, they're gonna lose in 664 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: dramatic fashion, heartbreaking fashion, and I would have I would 665 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: have signed up for that. I just didn't want them 666 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: embarrassed because this has been a really great story. And 667 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: they found their guy, and they got their wide receiver, 668 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: and you got a young coach, you got a good 669 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 1: running back and defense to me, won that game with 670 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: you know what they did to Patrick Mahomes. So it's 671 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: they might be the team people are rooting for in 672 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. If you don't have a you know, 673 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: if you don't base with the Rams, you're probably rooting 674 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. Yeah. Who doesn't love the underdog. Who 675 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: doesn't want the second year quarterback, the hometown kid from 676 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: Ohio to win a Super Bowl for the Bengals. I mean, 677 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna be the ones that everybody follows LA's you know, 678 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: they transfer, you know, moving from Saint Louis into LAM. 679 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: There's some fans that are split in LA with the 680 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: Chargers and the old Raiders. Back in the day when 681 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders were in LA. All of Ohio outside northeastern 682 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: Ohio where Cleveland is is behind the Bengals, and I 683 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: think the Midwest is too. There was even a bunch 684 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: of fans in Kansas City at Arrowhead. It was great 685 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: to see the following. I can't wait to be in 686 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: LA next week and see all the Bengals fans there 687 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: celebrating and enjoying the week. We're talking to Carson Palmer 688 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: joining us on behalf of our good friends at levels 689 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: like CBD dot com. How would you assess the quarterbacking 690 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: play in the NFC title game? Well, I think everybody 691 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: understands why the Rams got Matthew Stafford, but everybody really 692 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: quickly forgets how well Jared Goff played in twenty and 693 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: eighteen in the NFC Championship in New Orleans and beat 694 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: the Drew Brees Saints when they were rocking and rolling 695 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: and great on defense. Now Stafford has to prove that 696 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: he's worth his weight for those two first round picks 697 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: and I think a second or third in there too 698 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: by winning the Super Bowl. I mean, this is such 699 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: a big game for matt This is a career making game. Again. 700 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean people people dumped on Goff really quickly, but 701 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: goth had a lot of success up until that Super 702 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: Bowl game. Goff played phenomenally in that NFC Championship in 703 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: New Orleans and got that team there, the same thing 704 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: Stafford just did by getting the Rams into his first 705 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: Super Bowl in LA. If he can win this Super Bowl, 706 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: he proves everybody right in the building for the Rams, 707 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: from Snead down to McVeigh to the owner Stan Crunky, 708 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: that this was the right decision he made. On the 709 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: other end of things in San Francisco, we got exactly 710 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: what we probably all assumed was going to happen. You know, 711 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: the game was put on the line. When when you 712 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: have that ball in your hands and you have a 713 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: chance to win at the end of the game and 714 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: you're Jimmy Garoppolo in that situation, you no longer have 715 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: the advantage you had most of the game, which was 716 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan calling the plays, the scripted plays, the plays 717 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: that Kyle can call in from a headset. You get 718 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: in a two minute situation like that, it's on you 719 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: as a quarterback. And I think we all saw what 720 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: we've we expect good to see. We saw it a 721 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: couple of years ago where Jimmy just didn't get it done, 722 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: and that's probably why we're going to see him in 723 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: a different uniform next year and see Trey Lance being 724 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of the Niners next year. I just 725 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: didn't understand it. If I'm the Niners, I know the 726 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: Rams want the game in the ball in Jimmy Garoppolo's 727 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: hands at the end of the game. That's what they're 728 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: kind of preparing for. Why not run the ball more? 729 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: Why not? I just didn't understand that the Chiefs not 730 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: doing it and the Niners the Rams run the football. 731 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean that that big offensive line. I just thought 732 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: I got to take the ball out of his hands, 733 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: like I can't have the game on the line with 734 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: him trying to win it for me. Yeah, I mean, 735 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: we all wanted to see that. At the end of 736 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: the day, you got two offensive minded head coaches that 737 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: are both calling those plays, and offensive minded head coaches 738 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: got there by throwing it. They didn't get there by 739 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: running it. That's just a natural. We got to get 740 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: a big chunk. We can't run it for eight We 741 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: need to throw it for twenty five and another twenty 742 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: and another twenty and no doubt I mean, is it's 743 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: an ego thing. I'm sure the Monday morning quarterback and 744 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: all those coaches is going back and gone. Man, I 745 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: should have run it on first and ten here, I 746 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: should have run him on second and long here, But 747 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, Um, you're right, 748 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: the ball was in Jimmy's hands, and that's not the 749 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: situation you want to be in if you're the forty Niners. 750 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: That team got there by defense and running the football, 751 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: and when it came down to get into the Super Bowl, 752 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: they had to throw it and that is not their 753 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: forte I know. But I go back to the Super Bowl, Carson, 754 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: when they should have run the ball and they could have. 755 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: I just don't understand that mindset. You know, even when 756 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: you know Shanahan was with the Falcons, they were throwing 757 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: the ball. They didn't need to throw the ball, you 758 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: were in field goal range like these are these are costly, 759 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: costly moments for Shanahan. You know, he's blown double digit 760 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: leads in as Super Bowl as a you know, offensive coordinator, 761 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: as a head coach. With last night, Um, you know, 762 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: that's inexcusable for a guy who's that that's that's sharp 763 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: and you assume that you learn from your past mistakes 764 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: and move forward. And unfortunately, like I said, I mean, 765 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: you got Andy Reid, one of the greatest offensive play callers, 766 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: pass game innovators, Kyle Shanahan one of the greatest young 767 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. And he's great in the run game, and 768 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: he's great in the pass game. And you, naturally, as 769 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: a coach let's calling plays, you naturally feel like we 770 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: need more yards than we can get in the run game. 771 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: It's just not easy to do when you're in that position, obviously, man, 772 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: and I couldn't help but watch when Odell Beckham had 773 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: whatever nine catches, eight catches last night? Why didn't somebody 774 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: else swoop in, like Green Bay? Like what am I 775 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 1: missing with Odell Beckham? Even the Browns. I know there's 776 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: ego involved in this, but it just you can't help 777 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: but watch that and go. Even though he's had surgeries 778 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: and he's stepped slower or quicker, man, he's still a 779 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: game breaker. He's an impactful player. It's outside noise. It's 780 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: outside noise. It's that media labeling him as a prima donna, 781 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: not a team guy. All the headlines. We you know, 782 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: when times were bad for Odell Beckham. You heard, you know, 783 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: all he cares about as his catches. He doesn't want 784 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: to win. All these teams except for the Rams. Listen 785 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: to the outside noise. The Rams said, you know what 786 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: we need to get him in the building. We've got vets. 787 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 1: We've got Aaron Donald, one of the best players on defense. 788 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: We've got a young Sean McVeigh that any receiver would 789 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: love to listen to, a VET quarterback, and Stafford Andrew 790 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: Whitworth at left tackle, who's like sixty. They have so 791 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: much leadership. They have so many veterans in the room. 792 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: They said, even if he is, even if all these 793 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: articles are right, and he's a prima donna and he 794 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: cares about himself and doesn't care about the team, we've 795 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: got enough guys to bring him together. Maybe it is that, 796 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: or maybe all these articles are wrong about OBJ and 797 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: he just wants to win. But the Rams figured it out. 798 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: Would you rather have Joe Burrow or Matthew Stafford for 799 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: this one game? Joe Burrow? Would you rather have Cooper 800 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: Cup or Jamar Chase for this one game? I'd rather 801 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: have Cooper Cup because he's been there before. It's still 802 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: amazing to watch, Like, I'm still amazed these defenses. Somehow 803 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: forget the Cooper Cup won the Triple Crown of wide receivers. 804 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: Why is that? Well, it's funny too, because you watched 805 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 1: that first game in the sense the game in Arrowhead 806 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs Jamar the time they played just like 807 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: a month or you know, six weeks before that in 808 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: Sense and obviously the Bengals won, Jamar went for a 809 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: quarter thousand yards, and this year, I mean, you think 810 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: about that, he went for two hundred and sixty six 811 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: yards in one game. They figured out they needed to 812 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: shut him down. But every it was amazing. And what 813 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: was so mature about Joe Burrows plays every time they 814 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: didn't double him, which was very rarely, and he was 815 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: one on one, Joe got on the ball. There was 816 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: very few instances where Jamar was one on one and 817 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: Joe figured it out, diagnosed the defense, found his one 818 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: on one and his best player, and gave him the ball. 819 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: And you know, he didn't have two hundred and sixty 820 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: six yards, but he still greatly affected that game. And 821 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: they did a ton of stuff. I mean, Zach's scheme 822 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: with him in the backfield and motioning in and out 823 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: of different spots. He was so difficult to figure out 824 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: where Jamar was going to land and end up. But 825 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: the Chiefs did a really good job of finding out 826 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: where that was going to be and doubled them but 827 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: the very few times where he was not doubled, he 828 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: got the ball in his hands and Joe figured it out. 829 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: But I mentioned Cooper Cup. I mean it felt like 830 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: the Niners forgot that he is was an MVP candidate, 831 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: and you did all of these things the regular season. Yeah, 832 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: and again I can point the finger and it's great. 833 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: It was great by Stafford, it was great by Cup. 834 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 1: But that's a Sean McVeigh, Kevin O'Connell finding a way. 835 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: He was all over the place. Cooper Cup was on 836 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: the outside, he was on the inside, he was motioning, 837 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: he was shifting. You don't when you have a guy 838 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: that's as smart as some of these receivers were seeing 839 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: in Jamar and Cooper Cup. They don't just have to 840 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: line up at X on the left hand side of 841 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: the field anymore. They are so smart. They can motion them, 842 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: they can shift them, they can put them inside and 843 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: put him on a three by one side. You just 844 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: don't know where he's going to be in it. As 845 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,839 Speaker 1: easy as to say is don't let Cooper Cup get 846 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: the ball. He's all over the place. You don't know 847 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: where he's gonna line up. It's so difficult to do 848 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: and again. Stafford a lot like Joe Burrow when he 849 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: was in those situations when he was one on one, 850 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: he got him the ball. Are you going to be 851 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: in LA next week? I will see you next week? 852 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: Maybe we could go to USC and walk around and 853 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: h throw the fight on, just walk around campus. Well 854 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: maybe we could, you know, throw the football around or 855 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: something like that. Let's do it. Would you dress like 856 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: a Trojan? Like a Trojan? I've got a Trojan Halloween outfit. 857 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: Can I bring that for you? Yes? All right, I'll 858 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: throw and we'll go to the colisee him. We'll throw 859 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: some routes. We could we could dress like a pack 860 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: of Trojan sons that No, I don't want to dress up, 861 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: just you. All right, Well, we'll see you. We'll see 862 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: in La next week. Sounds great, Thank you, Bunny. That's 863 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, his weekly appearance during the NFL season, brought 864 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: to you by our partner levels like CBD looking for 865 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: next level relief visit levels like CBD dot com. I 866 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: don't think he got the joke of pack of condoms 867 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: or Trojans. My god, now he should get Oh he's 868 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: got the joke. Yeah, Paul, that's a local High School, 869 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: Southside Chicago was out to Maryon Catholic, but the local school, 870 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: public school is Bloom High School. They were Bloom Trojans, 871 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: and every once in a while the Pa and Housbord goes, 872 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, tackled by a host of Trojans. Anyway, everyone's 873 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: tag tackled by a pack of Trojans, and all of 874 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: us a little fifteen year olds, babe, giggle the st 875 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna get in triangle, geggle gegle