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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 3: Problem solved bed on.

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Speaker 2: The n zoe pickoff. Hi's here White.

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Speaker 1: With the interception, the latest news and notes from the

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Speaker 1: insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty, right there? Rights slam the ground by

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Speaker 2: fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 3: Alright.

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Speaker 2: Last time we joined you here on Cardinals Underground, it

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Speaker 2: was Week eleven, otherwise known as the bye week, and

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Speaker 2: we were still somewhat shocked and trying to process the

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Speaker 2: referee call that included the words butt cheek. Wow.

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Speaker 4: It feels like forever ago.

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Speaker 2: But because it can always get worse, it did during

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Speaker 2: the bye week when you went from butt cheek audio

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Speaker 2: to butt cheek video. And although I try and be

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Speaker 2: judicious in adding to my power pole of ineptitude and incompetence,

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Speaker 2: we do have two recent entries here in the last

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Speaker 2: three weeks alone, Tyreek Stevenson move over because Netflix is

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Speaker 2: now joining you alongside the Chicago White Sox ray Gun,

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Speaker 2: the all you can eat shrimp at Red Lobster. I

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Speaker 2: can keep going here, per secret the Secret Service. Just

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Speaker 2: off the top of my head, these are all recent

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Speaker 2: examples of abjecting competent.

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Speaker 4: Is it Mike Tyson or the camera operator that's going on.

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Speaker 2: The list now? As the camera operator, all of us

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Speaker 2: submitted our share of locker rooms over the years. You

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Speaker 2: just gotta know, I mean, you gotta know obviously the

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Speaker 2: playing field and you know, waste up, please waste up simple.

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Speaker 4: That fight, Yeah, this is I can't believe I'm about

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Speaker 4: to say this. Don't anybody clip this to take it

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Speaker 4: out of context what I'm about to say. But in

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Speaker 4: order to watch the fight because Netflix the stream was

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Speaker 4: so horrible and kept lagging. Thank goodness, Antonio Brown was

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Speaker 4: in the audience live streaming on Twitter because I was

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Speaker 4: one of the seven million people who watched the fight

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Speaker 4: on his live stream.

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Speaker 2: The one moment that Netflix wasn't buffering, we got the

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Speaker 2: naked rumpoled wrinkled naked rear end of Mike Tyson. I

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Speaker 2: mean what, And then of course the fight was was

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Speaker 2: in fact, you guys can join if you want. I

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Speaker 2: have it right here. You guys can sign on to

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Speaker 2: my last action lost lawsuit on behalf of viewers everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Netflix owes us all our Friday Night back from beginning

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Speaker 2: to end. We just were we need our Friday night

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Speaker 2: back from by weekend. I mean that was criminal misuse

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Speaker 2: of our Friday night. Darren, you didn't see it. You

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Speaker 2: didn't see the Actually I did.

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Speaker 3: I was out in an event on Friday night. I

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Speaker 3: in just in time. And then of course the fight

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Speaker 3: didn't happen for another hour. Sure, I tried to watch

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Speaker 3: it on my television forever and it buffered every six seconds,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean I did watch it. I regretted

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Speaker 2: So the self proclaimed proclaimed King of all media, Howard

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Speaker 2: Stern said, Hey, Netflix, you thought the blowback was bad

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Speaker 2: with the Tyson fight, and if you start messing with

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Speaker 2: people's Christmas Day NFL programming, uh, there going to storm

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Speaker 2: figure out how they're going to handle probably even greater

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Speaker 5: We had Chief Stealers, and what is.

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Speaker 3: The other game?

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Speaker 2: One week at a time, deren, I ask me, I'm

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Speaker 4: Before we move forward day to day, like Darius Robinson,

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Speaker 4: an editor's note based on editor's note based off last

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Speaker 4: week's podcast when I went on my rant about many

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Speaker 4: Cardinals Jets game. That's fair, I agree. I do think

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Speaker 4: that's fair when you've got and I wouldn't even just

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Speaker 4: I want to see you wear a jersey, whatever jersey

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Speaker 4: Those are my two exceptions to the rule. So thank

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Speaker 4: you to the listener the viewer who had that comment.

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Speaker 4: That was a very good point. Otherwise, I stand by

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Speaker 2: I will say London twenty seventeen, I'm on the team, boss.

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Speaker 2: We're pulling in and the site four hours before kickoff,

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Speaker 2: Fitz literally got up up and he's like shoving me aside.

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Speaker 2: He's looking out the window. The players are even gawking

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Speaker 2: by the way, Roger Goodell just last week said here

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Speaker 3: It was always coming.

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Speaker 2: We're taking a one week at a time, but I

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Speaker 3: Right now with the seventeen game schedule and then everybody

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Speaker 2: Game, and that was the point that there's no need

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Speaker 2: He's going to tie the two together. But once again,

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Speaker 2: we're just focused on this week coming out of the

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Speaker 3: What did you do during the bye before we get

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Speaker 2: Well after, yeah, after there was no more TV all

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Speaker 2: weekend after the Tyson fight on Friday night, because that

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Speaker 5: So you just threw your TV out the window.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was involved with some mental health away

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Speaker 2: to know that there's some really bad tackling yes around

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Speaker 4: Helps to keep what he did under wraps.

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Speaker 2: That's the Arizona Cardinals. Again, I didn't go anywhere I

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Speaker 2: didn't have to go. So with that in mind, there

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Speaker 4: And sometimes that's the best way to do it.

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Speaker 2: Danny, by the way, do I need to put the

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Speaker 2: Do I need to put that in the powerpole of

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Speaker 2: an aptitude? How does that work?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? That that when when they say the sky is

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Speaker 4: falling in Dallas, it's no longer just a metaphor.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe instead of just complaining and griping and I've

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Speaker 2: seeing and I'm cheap, I'm guilty more than most about that,

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Speaker 2: maybe we need to give some answers, Darren, is there

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Speaker 2: one here about it's about breathing? Is that the answer

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Speaker 2: about breathing?

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Speaker 3: Story? You know, we need to be breathing more, Paul,

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Speaker 3: breathing more. There's good reason to pause and take deep

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Speaker 3: deep breaths. Chronic unmanaged stress, which increases the risk of

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Speaker 3: heart disease and stroke, can be harmful to our health.

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Speaker 3: So I say, big deep breath ball, Excuse me, I

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting because as uh, you get older, right

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Speaker 2: that I will use when you can't sleep is to

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Speaker 2: just start breathing extremely deeply and then hopefully that will

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Speaker 2: relax you enough where maybe, just maybe you don't spend

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm giving away any State secrets, but

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Speaker 3: I have noticed that one of the things that the

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Speaker 3: If you go in the in the football area, there's

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Speaker 3: signs around the where the players walk around, and one

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Speaker 3: of them is deep breaths. Deep breathing and deep breathing exercises.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, so there you go.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 3: So when the twe I like Max Meltain, take deep breaths.

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Speaker 2: So doctor Darren, when when we're down on the sideline

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Speaker 2: in Seattle right on Sunday and the twelves or barking

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Speaker 2: behind the bench, just breach your favorite place deeply. Okay,

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Speaker 2: just breathe. By the way, I have a few predictions.

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Speaker 2: I'll just get out of the gate for Sunday. Number one,

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Speaker 2: Buddha Baker having a career year going back to his

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Speaker 2: native Seattle. I have him down for two dozen tackles.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four tackles. Is that extreme? Twenty four tackles in

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that would be bad. Budda Baker with

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Speaker 3: twenty four tackles. Yes, the guy, as much as he's

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Speaker 3: all over the field, you're safety getting twenty four tackles,

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Speaker 2: Once upon a time he knocked out not one, but

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Speaker 2: So there's that. By the way, how much do you

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Speaker 2: think that the Seattle gms still ruse the day he

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Speaker 2: gave up two first drum picks for Jamal Adams.

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Speaker 3: Where's Jamal Adams these days?

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Speaker 5: Oh that's right. I don't think he's anywhere, is he.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sort of where Earl Thomas is.

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Speaker 3: Cut by the somebody.

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Speaker 2: My favorite Seahawk memory, thanks for asking, would probably be

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Speaker 2: Earl Thomas being carted off the field at State Farmers

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Speaker 2: the bird.

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Speaker 5: See that's that's the Earl.

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Speaker 2: Of middle Finger, as we called him, the Earl of

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Speaker 3: You were star of a Folk Tales episode of a

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Speaker 3: game in Seattle, which everybody should go watch about these.

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Speaker 2: That I'm still better. We got ripped off for the Emmy.

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Speaker 5: You didn't win an Emmy for that.

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Speaker 2: Congrats to the Emmy winners, the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: True Bird napped.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we got nominated to not win. There's still

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Speaker 4: I remember watching you film that from the radio booth

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Speaker 2: That was one take. Every single every single shot was

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Speaker 4: They serve Starbucks coffee in the press box. Does that count?

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Speaker 2: Wolf gets his own pot of coffee? The Wolfe's reputation

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Speaker 3: I do enjoy going to Seattle for that, and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So where are we going to start? In

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Speaker 2: Am I out of line? And I'll repeat what I

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Speaker 2: Down the stretch they come to use a horse racing term.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, the Arizona Cardinals should win the division.

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Speaker 2: It's no longer could win. It should win when you

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Speaker 4: I don't think you need to pump your breaks on that.

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Speaker 4: they can't get in their own way. You cannot go backwards.

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Speaker 4: You cannot have a slow start coming off the bye week.

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Speaker 4: Because while every game is important, this is a divisional game,

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Speaker 3: If the Cardinals. I want to know both on this.

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Speaker 3: If the Cardinals go two and two in the division

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Speaker 3: the rest of the way, do they win the division?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they have Carolina, they have New England. Now at Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: that's a tough putt. I would say, yes, you're two

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Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, especially when looking at the rest of

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Speaker 3: I'm i'm, I'm optimistic. I will say the Patriots are

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Speaker 3: is playing better football. Obviously the Panthers. The trip to

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Speaker 2: All right, So here's the question. Good Morning Football Post.

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Speaker 4: Dan, forty nine Ers are a bit banged up, Seahawks

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Speaker 2: I would go with LA as well. I reverse engineered it,

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Speaker 3: For me, I would probably lean at this point. I

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Speaker 2: By the way, the god send for the Rams so

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Speaker 2: Jared Verse Braden fisk I saw one recent evaluation they

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Speaker 2: Defensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: What if the Cardinals, though, in week seven, have a

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Speaker 2: you get to week seventeen, Hey, Sean McVay, taste this.

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Speaker 2: Here you go, it's the cardinals own first round rookie

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Speaker 4: That would be nice. It's one week at a time, Paul.

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Speaker 3: One day at a time, one day, one.

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Speaker 4: Day at a time, Darius Robinson practice and a bonus

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Speaker 2: Guys saw it. What did it look like?

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Speaker 4: From his coaches, he looked good. That's not to say

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Speaker 4: even if Robinson has an entire week of practice he'll

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Speaker 4: be ready to play. He hasn't played football in months

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Speaker 3: There's a very good.

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Speaker 2: There's a moment. How much would you like to just

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Speaker 4: I mean at this very you also interrupted me.

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Speaker 2: All right, she's gonna split the double team.

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Speaker 4: Then Darius Robinson very well could take a couple of

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Speaker 3: I mean he for me, he didn't you know, Danny

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Speaker 3: Now again, what does that mean in terms of this week?

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Speaker 5: That's very possible. I won't be completely.

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Speaker 3: Surprised if he plays this weekend, but there is a

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Speaker 5: But we'll see. I do.

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Speaker 3: But there there, there's going to have to be. We're

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Speaker 3: I do think Jonah Williams is going to be available again,

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Speaker 4: To the crowd wondering why you would play Jonah Williams

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Speaker 2: I mean to have Kelvin Beacham, we literally can fill

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Speaker 3: think we talked about last week. They I didn't even

442
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Speaker 3: I didn't even realize he was there exactly.

443
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Speaker 2: So that's a good sign. Now the Seahawks got their

444
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 2: right tackle he returned Abe Lucas, and that made a

445
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 2: big difference. They actually got better pass protection on Geno Smith.

446
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: So you know what, if the Seahawks can get their

447
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 2: right tackle to return, then the Cardinals can do the

448
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 2: same thing. So we'll see if that's the way it's tragging.

449
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: Although you know, if there's one game that's more difficult

450
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: than most, it's at Seattle with the crowd noise and

451
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: the silent count. And there have been games where the

452
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: Cardinals old line has struggled at Seattle because the defensive

453
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 2: lineman they're getting off the ball. There's no real advantage

454
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: to knowing the snap count, like the usual is. If

455
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 2: you're an offensive lineman, you can't get that half step,

456
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: you know, advantage off the snaps. So we'll see. I

457
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 2: will say this though, that for Kyler Murray, the way

458
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: he's playing right now, and we had a chance on

459
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: JG's TV showed to talk a little bit in depth

460
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Speaker 2: about and have him assess Kyler Murray, and I asked

461
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Speaker 2: him the question, do you think he's slowed down in

462
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: the pocket sort of the Kurt Warner video, And his

463
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: answer was no, But I do think he's trusting a

464
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 2: little more, trusting his pass protection and trusting the receivers

465
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Speaker 2: to be where they need to be. So I think

466
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Speaker 2: our speculation over the first half of the season that when.

467
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 5: Some Palmer Bruce Arians effect.

468
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: Yes, that when Jonathan Ganna would say that details in

469
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: the passing game, need to improve. Details was code for okay,

470
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: young receivers be in the right place at the right

471
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 2: time to help out your quarterback.

472
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Speaker 4: You can see that trust absolutely and how it's grown

473
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Speaker 4: the last few weeks. There's a handful of plays that

474
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 4: show that. In Miami, that big third down when Murray

475
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 4: throws the ball before Harrison even broke his route and

476
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 4: put in the right place at the right time. There

477
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 4: was a touchdown at State Farm Stadium against the Jets,

478
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: the same situation through it when Harrison's hands were still

479
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: on a defender's body, knowing Harrison would get free and

480
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 4: be in the right spot at the right time. And

481
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 4: that's beyond Harrison, that's with his receivers as a whole.

482
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 4: Murray has done a very nice job staying poised and

483
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: calm in the pocket and not feeling rushed and making

484
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: the right play. He's been very smart, very safe with

485
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 4: the ball, and his accuracy is really coming into play.

486
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Speaker 4: It's been a nice a nice progression, not just with

487
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Speaker 4: Murray but the offense as a whole in how they

488
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: have really improved week to week.

489
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Speaker 2: So he's up there for Comeback Player of the Year.

490
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Speaker 2: Is that correct, Yeah, I was.

491
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Speaker 5: It was funny. It was sparked.

492
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 3: Kyler for Comeback Player of the Year was sparked by

493
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Speaker 3: a mail bag question that said, do I did I

494
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Speaker 3: think Kyler could win Comeback Play of the Year And

495
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 3: I knew I knew he could be. I double checked

496
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Speaker 3: with I knew. There had been some clarification on the

497
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: Comeback Player of the Year that had to do with

498
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 3: the Joe Flacco winning it last year. The intent is

499
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Speaker 3: for somebody coming back from either great personal situation or

500
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: an injury that made you miss significant time.

501
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 4: The year before, or die or die. Yes, I think

502
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: that reason why they changed there talking about.

503
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: Jamar Hamlin and not the whale and and anyways, and

504
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 3: and Joe Flacco won it basically because you know, some

505
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: of the Browns deside to get the corpse of Joe

506
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: Flacco and and he ended up playing really well, so

507
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: they they they kind of clarified. So and obviously Kyler

508
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: did come back last year, but he.

509
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 5: Missed half the season.

510
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: And if your Kirk Cousins has been one of the

511
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 3: guys that most people thought was going to win, well,

512
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins missed. I don't even know if Kirk Cousins

513
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: missed as much time as Kyler did last year. I'm

514
00:24:59,000 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: not a.

515
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 4: Hundred Cousin's hurt late in the season.

516
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: Well maybe he did, but like he's a guy coming

517
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: off a significant injury. But he's the betting favorite. Not

518
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: that we talk a lot about betting here and not

519
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: that we would ever do that, Danny uh, but it

520
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: did look like the odds have are now swaying in

521
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: Kyler's favor to be in the mix. Well, along with

522
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: other people. Joe Burrow got hurt last year, DeMar Hamlin's

523
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: still still in there, and but Kyler apparently is somebody

524
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: who they're talking about could possibly win, which I hadn't

525
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: given much thought to, especially when we start talking about

526
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: maybe him being an MVP race. But I guess so

527
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: was JK.

528
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: Dobbins was that last year?

529
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: No Dobbins got hurt. So he's another guy that's in

530
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: the Chubb is in the mix. Yes, lots of first lots.

531
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Speaker 2: Of Flacco took a stray there from Darren. He led

532
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: the Browns to the playoffs last year.

533
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 5: It was fantastic.

534
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: I mean, put a little respect on that stray and.

535
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 5: That voodoo magic getting him back in. Then on the field.

536
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: Can I say this, you know, okay, comeback player of Year.

537
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: That's great. Where's Kyler in the MVP race? That's what

538
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: I want to know, because if he takes the four

539
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: win Cardinals to a division crown and he has twelve

540
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: touchdown passes in three picks, Geno Smith I meanwhile has

541
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns and eleven interceptions. So Kyler's doing a great

542
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: job of taking care of the football right now. As

543
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: Drew Petsy noted, you know what, one of those interceptions

544
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: was a tip ball as well off the receiver's hands.

545
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: So that being the case, I mean, is Kyler anywhere

546
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: to be seen in the MVP chase right now? According

547
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: to all the.

548
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 4: Wedding note he is because I've seen his I don't

549
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: know the numbers because I'm not looking on betting sites

550
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 4: because we're not allowed to, but he is in the

551
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 4: conversations from what I have seen online.

552
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Speaker 5: I don't know what the betting odds are for me.

553
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 3: For MVP. It's more of like, okay, what's the vibe?

554
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: What's more of the goes off vibes? I mean, I

555
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: understand the betting odds, but I mean realist clee, where

556
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: we sit right now. Do I think Kyler Murray is

557
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: an MVP favorite. I do not favorite no now if

558
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: he ends up, if the Cardinals win eleven or twelve games,

559
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: and he repeats what he's done so far. But here's

560
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: the problem with the Kyler MVP talk. If they go

561
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 3: out and win a game like they did against the

562
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: Bears and he has pedestrian numbers, that's not good enough.

563
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: Just winning the games is not going to be good enough.

564
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: Not if Lamar Jackson wins twelve games and has sparkly stats.

565
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: Well, I know his NFL dot com The other day

566
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: I looked at it coming off this past weekend, and

567
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: in their QB Power Index they had Kyler number eleven,

568
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: behind Baker Mayfield. So there's a long way to go

569
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: in terms of the national narrative as to just how

570
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: well Kyler is playing.

571
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 4: You should put that list on your incompetency.

572
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. Those guys are on warning, all right.

573
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: You have a one week you know, sort of notice

574
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: to get it right.

575
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 5: Bakers played pretty well though, yeah.

576
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: Not bad all right. Speaking of bad and poor performances,

577
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: it seems like a good time to segue. I got

578
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: some extra sleepover by weekend, So maybe, just maybe my

579
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: power of recall and memory will be that much better

580
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: to somehow not get embarrassed. And yet another edition of.

581
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Speaker 1: It's Time for the wise Guy, the world's fastest growing

582
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

583
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess.

584
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: Danny's right.

585
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: Everybody, welcome in. Darren reigning champion. Yes, you are up

586
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: nine to two on Paul this season.

587
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: Did you want to talk about picks yet? Danny?

588
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 4: You no, I did not.

589
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: Okay, we can talk about that Afterwise Guy.

590
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: We don't have to.

591
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: We don't have to, but we're gonna Danny.

592
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: It's one week at a time. We don't care about

593
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: the standings, and it was bye week, so we forget

594
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: about a lot. It's a new season. Let's go.

595
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick number three, Danny.

596
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: Okay, wait a minute.

597
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: Didn't Darren go first last time?

598
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: Well, he won, so he got to choose the order.

599
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 4: That's how it works.

600
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: Like pickup basketball, you make the shot makers.

601
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: If you want to say you need to win. Here

602
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 4: we go to the delight of Paul Calvic. That is

603
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 4: actually written in the question.

604
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 2: I'm not making that out how can this not be

605
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: my question?

606
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: To the delight of Paul Calvic, the Seahawks refer to

607
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: their fans as the twelves. In two thousand and five,

608
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 4: the Hawks were involved in a trademark infringement lawsuit brought

609
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 4: on by this school regarding the use of the term

610
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: twelve man.

611
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: Come on Texas A and m golly to the delight

612
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: of Paul Calvis.

613
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: It's brilliant marketing because the twelves buy their own gear

614
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: and the team gets all the profit because you don't

615
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 2: have to split it with the players, as the twelve

616
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: isn't the number of any player. It's just you branded

617
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: the fans their own gear and then you sell it

618
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: right back to them.

619
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 5: Is it. Do the Seahawks have a jersey number twelve?

620
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: It's marketing brilliance. I have no idea.

621
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: Okay, here, we take a number.

622
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: Maybe almost can send me that at some.

623
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: Point, you know what, We're confident coming out of the

624
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: by we're gonna go number one.

625
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 4: The NFL has a robust record book that helps tell

626
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 4: the story of the league. However, there are some records

627
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 4: players want no part of. This. Former Cardinals and Seahawks

628
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: player has the third most fumbles in NFL history? Can

629
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: you name him?

630
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Former Seahawks third most fumbles in NFL history? Okay, any

631
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: question that starts with the word robust. I know I'm

632
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: in trouble. Let's see here, Sean Alexander could be viably

633
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: touch the ball a lot. Didn't have a long career,

634
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: Jim Zorn, You know, I mean he was always running

635
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: around like a crazy man. Frank Tarkington third most fumbles,

636
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson.

637
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: Really no, We're gonna go with Dave Craig.

638
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: Correct, thanks you full former Cardinals quarterback Did Craig out

639
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: of there?

640
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty three?

641
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: Said this former Seahawks and Cardinals.

642
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: Oh, and Cardinals player. I'm missed part of it all.

643
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I wasn't. I'm still thrown by the

644
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: word robust.

645
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: That's far. Come on, man, Five is the most with

646
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: one sixty six, and then Warren Moon with one sixty one.

647
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: Well, my add and listening skills doomed my answer on

648
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: that one.

649
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: Come on, I blame two or four?

650
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: Four? Please.

651
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: This former Seahawks tight end played the twenty fourteen season

652
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: in Arizona and scored one touchdown for the Cardinals. However,

653
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: he may be best known for his training camp quote

654
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: and then about then Cardinals rookie tight end Troy Nicholas quote,

655
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: he looks like a twelve year old boy that swallowed

656
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 4: a grizzly bear.

657
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 3: Number one, fantastic quote. And I can see his face.

658
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: And he retired in the middle of the off season.

659
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: And I'm drawing a blank on his kname. I literally

660
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: was there when he said that quote. And I'm trying

661
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: to remember.

662
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: I know his first name, and I'm drawing a blank up.

663
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: A former Seahawks tight end who played for the Cardinals

664
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen had this quote about then Cardinals rookie

665
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 4: tight end Troy Nicholas, he looks like a twelve year

666
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 4: old boy that swallowed a grizzly bear.

667
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: I cannot remember his last name. Man, very upset with myself,

668
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: very upset.

669
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: Jeff King, it's John.

670
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: Oh John, It's not.

671
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: John John, It's John Carlson. Mine whooa man?

672
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that was very frustrated.

673
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: That's disappointing on multiple levels.

674
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: Here's your question, Paul.

675
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Am I still in this if

676
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I've been mathematically Unless you.

677
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: Can somehow convince Darren to change his mind to do

678
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: Winner takes all. You're not in this, but we'll continue.

679
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: Here waiting for pride. Here we go.

680
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety five, this former Cardinals defensive back had

681
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: a seventy two yard pick six to defeat the Seahawks

682
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: at overtime twenty to fourteen. He is the uncle of

683
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: the famous Seahawks running back who liked to quote taste

684
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: the rainbow. Name both players.

685
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go Lorenzo Lynch and Marshawn Lynch.

686
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: Correct, Lorenzo Lynch is the uncle of Marshawn.

687
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: Of course, it doesn't matter because they've already been mathematically

688
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: eliminated and lost.

689
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: Typically, I'd like to do the tiebreakers for fun. However,

690
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: since we play the Seahawks again, yeah, not going to

691
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: do the tiebreakers to save them.

692
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: So I'm just going to walk away with a victory.

693
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: You are, congratulations ten and two.

694
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Speaker 5: You know you know another place I might walk away

695
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 5: with victory.

696
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: No, no way, no way. I went eleven and three

697
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: in the picks this week, Big whoop. Paul went ten

698
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: and four, Danny went eight and six. So the current

699
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: standings for anybody keeping track at home and if you're not,

700
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: that's just disappointing. I have a one oh five and

701
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: fifty one record Paul nipping at my heels at one

702
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: oh four and fifty two.

703
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Note to self, spend more than thirty seconds making your picks.

704
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: Kelpci and Danny eating our dust at ninety one and

705
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: sixty five.

706
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: I continue to blame Aaron Rodgers. I went against what

707
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: I said, which was I was done picking the Jets.

708
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: And what did I do this week? I picked the Jets.

709
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So the Jets had Garrett Wilson, former teammate of

710
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior. Here's my segue. These Seahawks have Jackson

711
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigma, former teammate of Marvin Harrison junior at

712
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State. What do you expect in the final seven

713
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: games from the fourth pick overall? Because I think anybody

714
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: who has watched every single snap of every single Cardinals

715
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: game his entire NFL career, like we all have, do

716
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: we all agree. If there's one thing we can agree on,

717
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: there is much more upside on Marvin Harrison Junior as

718
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: a playmaker in this offense going forward, is there not?

719
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Speaker 4: We're going to continue to see a rise of Harrison.

720
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 4: He's going to continue to ascend these final few games

721
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: in the backstretch of the season. The miscommunication and the

722
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: time I mean that we saw that were leading to

723
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: some problems early on in the season. Happens when you're

724
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: a rookie in the NFL. For every position, there is

725
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: a grace period of having the game slow down, understanding

726
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 4: the playbook and the nuances of going from college to

727
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 4: the pros. We have seen the last handful of weeks

728
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 4: on a consistent level, Harrison's step up and you can

729
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: see the switch. You can see it's it's now slowing

730
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 4: down in his head. He's not thinking as much. He's

731
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: in the right place at the right time. He is

732
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: making some contested catches where he's got a few defenders

733
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 4: on him, or he's getting hit as soon as he

734
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: gets the ball, and Murray's still throwing it. Because that

735
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: trust is there, We're going to continue to see a

736
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Speaker 4: rise these final few games of Harrison, who is getting

737
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: pretty close to breaking the record for rookies in this

738
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 4: franchise for receiving touchdowns. He's at seven what's the record,

739
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: He's at six to eight. We've got what seven games.

740
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: Last I know you I know you you're all over

741
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: the stat I only wish you could bring it up

742
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: in a press conference. I think Marvin Harrison, I think

743
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: he's going to continue to get better Paul, and there's

744
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: no question about that. I I don't know if he

745
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: gets all the way there this year.

746
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 5: I mean, we're gonna see. I mean it's possible.

747
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting when Jonathan Gannon a couple

748
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: of weeks ago said that the passing game starts with

749
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: Trey McBride, He's the one. The passing game revolves around

750
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: around prayer phrasing. But he basically said that. I don't

751
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: think it's incorrect, but it's it's interesting to hear that

752
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 3: when you've got Marvin Harrison out there. But I think

753
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: he's going to get better. I think I think what

754
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: he's doing with Kyler is only going to improve. And

755
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: you've you've seen it get better with him and with

756
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: Kyler playing just steadier football from the pocket too. So

757
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: I don't have any reason to think it's it's not

758
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: going to improve. What we really haven't talked about. And

759
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting when Michael Wilson brought it

760
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: up this week when he talked was that the buy

761
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: comes essentially the end of a college season and now

762
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: you can kind of buck up for the rest of it.

763
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: We haven't talked about the rookie wall or whether Marvin

764
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: or any of these other rookies that are playing a

765
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: lot if they could suffer a little bit of that.

766
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 3: I'm that's something we'll have to be curious about, because again,

767
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: this is a much much longer grind than these guys

768
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: are used to.

769
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: That was the reason for a lot of the non

770
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: participation at the Combine in pre draft stuff was to

771
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 4: preserve his body.

772
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: That's right. I forgot about serve.

773
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 4: And run, stay healthy and make it through this season. Look,

774
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: if there's a rookie that's gonna have any idea what

775
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 4: it takes, it's going to be a rookie whose dad

776
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 4: is a Hall of Fame wide receiver.

777
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: The other thing is, guess what you had Paris Johnson

778
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: Junior a year ago playing every single snap of every

779
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: single game. You know, stinking rookie wall for Paris Johnson's

780
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 2: junior Ohio State All American, just like Marvin Arrison junior.

781
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: And to Danny's point, it's a good point. He worked

782
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: the entire offseason to be ready for the Riggers of

783
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: a seventeen game regular season and hopefully a playoff game. Now,

784
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: is he gonna get fat this week against Devin Witherspoon

785
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: and Tariq Woollen. I mean, arguably the best part of

786
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: the Seahawks team, even beyond the Seahawks receivers, are those

787
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: two corners.

788
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: Think about some of the cornerbacks. Harrison's gone up against

789
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: it and beat and looked good. Jalen Ramsey in Miami, Jalen

790
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 4: Johnson with Chicago, sast Gardner, Sauce Gardner.

791
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: So Devin Witherspoon though, I'll say this, Jalen Ramsey's a dude,

792
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: and he plays really physical and he hits really hard.

793
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon is one of the few corners in that

794
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: same class in terms of hard hitting pound for pound,

795
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: will absolutely bring the lumber against you. So that's gonna

796
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: be an interesting not only an interesting matchup for this week,

797
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: but twice in three weeks and oh maybe the next decade,

798
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon against Marvin Harrison.

799
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Junior and Witherspoon didn't have a great start to a season,

800
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: but he seems like he's coming around.

801
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: It seems like he's playing really well right now.

802
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 5: Quick throwing almost came through.

803
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: Uh. Seahawks of course don't have anybody wearing the jersey

804
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: number twelve because it's been retired, Paul for the fans.

805
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: The fans, so we can sell them their own gear.

806
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: Cool. I think that's kind of cool. It's so iconic

807
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 4: to them.

808
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: It is iconic except Texas. A and M said, no,

809
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: it's not to them.

810
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: It's just okay, they've convinced the Seahawks fans that they're

811
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: truly a factor in the game. You know, if they

812
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: want to believe that, they let them believe it, you

813
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and and use their credit card

814
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: as part.

815
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: Of you know that, PAULA. I know they heckle you

816
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: down sideline.

817
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: I was going to bring up a little factoid about Seattle,

818
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: and that's I realized that might end up on a

819
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 3: quiz later and then I can answer it and win again.

820
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: So I'll have to hold off. I'll bring it up

821
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: next time we h the Cardinals place.

822
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: So two weeks maybe.

823
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: If it's not in wise guy.

824
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: I have another observation about this Cardinals team, and it

825
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: has to do please tell us, Paul practice Man. I

826
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: brought this up with Kyle Vannabasch and Craig Griilou, And

827
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to reiterate that I think and Jonathan again

828
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: has made mentioned twice in the last three weeks, twice

829
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: in the last two weeks that they are quote pushing

830
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: the needle end quote at practice, and that they came

831
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Speaker 2: out on Monday, the bonus Monday out of the bye

832
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: weekend getting ready for Seattle. Quote. We are practicing today

833
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: like it's a competitive training camp. Now. There are plenty

834
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: of teams around the NFL who start to really taper

835
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: off on practice intensity this time of year, as you

836
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: get into late November into December. Most NFL practices, especially

837
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: in the new CBA rules, resemble more of a glorified walkthrough.

838
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: And we agreed at some of the horrendous tackling in

839
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: the NFL.

840
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true. You did bring that up.

841
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: And you know what, I think a lot of that

842
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: you can directly correlate and attribute to practice. Man and

843
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, I think better than most teams. I don't

844
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: know if there's an analytic out there for this breaking

845
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: tackles and making tackles, and the Cardinals separate themselves from

846
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: a lot of teams, especially in the last month at

847
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: both not only do they have the leader in the

848
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: NFL and James Connor, I don't know where he's at

849
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: right now, and broken mistackles forced whatever the analytic is,

850
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: he was a runaway leader.

851
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 5: Like he's probably at home right now, but he's.

852
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: Not currently breaking tackles midweek, okay. And and and then

853
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: just in terms of a Cardinals defense, that is this

854
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: very sound in tackling And you think, okay, really and

855
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: do you But all you have to do is watch

856
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: that that forty nine or Seahawks game and how many

857
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: Niners made the mistake of going high. I'm Kenneth Walker

858
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: losing that battle. That's why it was either Nick Rolis

859
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: or Jonathan Gannon already this week said you got to

860
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: tackle him around his legs because otherwise he's just gonna

861
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: shake you, sort of like what Trey McBride did to

862
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: Sauce Garden.

863
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I mean some of this is I mean,

864
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: that's what makes Budda Baker so great, ye, because he

865
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: knows to go low and take out their legs, and amazingly,

866
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 3: players find it very hard to run when their legs

867
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: are being hug tied by a defender.

868
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: So it happens. If Baker ends up having.

869
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: Tackles, I will I will bring Paul Calvec two dozen donuts.

870
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 4: How about that? And then Paul has to eat all

871
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 4: of them on the podcast.

872
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it would be more appropriately is Darren

873
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: just vacates his ten wins and wise guy that would

874
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: be that would take.

875
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: Then I'd have to take me three weeks to get

876
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: the lead.

877
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 4: Take ten wins off his oh man off his record

878
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: for the picks.

879
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 5: Well you didn't.

880
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: You didn't say it was getting two dozen tackles Paul did.

881
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: Paul deserves them all.

882
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: But if if Baker does Paul off, I will agree

883
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: with Paul and I will also deserve something.

884
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: So once again the disappointing part of the Seahawks is

885
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 2: they're not actually in last place anymore, you know, because

886
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: again my favorite, my favorite headline recently was two weeks

887
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: ago Gino Smith and the Seahawks ride their pass happy

888
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: offense to the NFC West Seller. That was an outstanding

889
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: headline that I thoroughly enjoyed. By the way, they're starting

890
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: center going into the Niners game. Just retired Yea out

891
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: of nowhere, and they cut a starting linebacker, who was like,

892
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: they're starting Mike linebacker and it started all nine games

893
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: and they cut him. So there's some interesting dynamics going

894
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: on with the Seahawks sot of like with the forty

895
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: nine ers where you had Deebo Samuel physically attacking the

896
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: long snapper on the sideline two weeks ago. This is

897
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: what I mean by when you look at the rest

898
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: of the NFC West.

899
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: There's one a lot in front of you.

900
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one team ascending that seems to be very

901
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: business like, and there's three other teams that have a

902
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: lot of drama not associated with football.

903
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: Connor Williams, a former Dallas Cowboys draft pick. Oh, the center,

904
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 4: the center that retired.

905
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: What's saying, what's the drama that the Rams have?

906
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. I mean, other than injuries,

907
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: other than their their head coach appearing in those super

908
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: commercials trying to you know, motivate America and giving the

909
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: workforce of pep talk.

910
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: Campbell does those the commercials? Who does Dan Campbell's and

911
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: a bunch of commercials?

912
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: True? Yeah, that's true. Well, you know, is there a

913
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: commercial out there without Travis Kelcey or his brother in it?

914
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: You know, by the way, Paul, I think the Jacksonville

915
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: Jaguars will lose this week after playing the Lions. I'm

916
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: going out on the.

917
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: Link that did either of you? Guys? This is random,

918
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 4: but now as we're talking about commercials, did either of you?

919
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: I typically don't always watch the Manning cast, but JJ

920
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: Watt was on.

921
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: I saw some clips. I did not watch it directly.

922
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: He's always so good.

923
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: I tried to watch it. Jim Gaffigan was on. He

924
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: was talking over all the place. It was a tough watch.

925
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: I changed the channel. I should have come back for

926
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 2: JJ Watt.

927
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: I liked when Peyton and Eli Manning were talking about

928
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: how JJ and TJ have the most sacks combined amongst brothers,

929
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 4: more than two hundred, and then he sotle the thunder

930
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: by saying that the Manning brothers had been sacked the

931
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: most by any brothers, by more than like seven hundred

932
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 4: sacks taken by the two of them combined.

933
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: A lot of sacks.

934
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: Pretty crazy.

935
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: That's uh. Yeah, it's good to be JJ Watt these days.

936
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: He's got his own set of commercials.

937
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I've been seeing him everywhere too.

938
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: Goodness, Okay, all right, Well, look, is there anything else

939
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: in here, any other vitriol you want to throw out,

940
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: any other bolton board material about the Seahawks? Are we

941
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: really buying a Seahawks team that started three and oh,

942
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: by the way, and really beat up on inferior competition

943
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: and rookie quarterbacks out of the gate. They barely beat

944
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: Denver with bow Nicks in week one. They then beat

945
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: New England twenty three to twenty with Jakobe Brissett. And

946
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: then they went three and oh. They beat a Miami

947
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: team with Skyler Thompson and Tim Boyle. They lost five

948
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 2: out of six. You know, they came back. They figured

949
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: out a way to beat the Niners minus Nick Bosa.

950
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: Is it okay if I don't buy the Seahawks?

951
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: I mean, couldn't you make some of these arguments for

952
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: the Cardinals wins barely beating and beating teams without people.

953
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: And I don't know, Darren, you'll elaborate there.

954
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like I'm just and I'm not trying

955
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: to take anything away from the Cardinals, but I know this.

956
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: You're going to Seattle, which can be a difficult place

957
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 3: to play, and the Seahawks now know that no matter

958
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: how much they derailed there for a little bit. The

959
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: win over the forty nine ers puts in a position

960
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: to be in first place if they beat the Cardinals.

961
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: I have another prediction, just came to me here. Okay,

962
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: so one Buddhist how many tackles?

963
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 4: Is no following?

964
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: DK metcalf Buddha twenty four tackles James Connor and the

965
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 2: Cardinals seven.

966
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: You don't get any donuts for that?

967
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: Starbucks on the South sideline and number four. DJ Dallas

968
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: at least three fights against his former team.

969
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 5: Oh that's a good one.

970
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: I'm back down here too. So are you gonna go.

971
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 4: Beast mode on Special Teams?

972
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: Pay prop that's I to throw that out there and

973
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: then see if people go over under on some of these.

974
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: Be fun to see his former teammates try to tackle him,

975
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 4: because that's something Special Teams cornator Jeff Rodgers mentioned when

976
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 4: Dallas signed in Arizona was how happy he was that

977
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 4: his team was no longer going to have to try

978
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: and bring Dallas to the ground.

979
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: That's right, I'm gonna yell at the twelves kick the

980
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: ball to DJ Dallas, don't We don't want any touchbacks?

981
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: What about your guy in the corner.

982
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's posters and they're always misspelled on purpose.

983
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, on purpose? Do you think so?

984
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just think he's unintelligent.

985
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: Every sign just has a major misspelling for some of

986
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: his conversations.

987
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: Oh, dear, don't think he has.

988
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: He really likes to heckle our group as well, our

989
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: camera operators, sideline reporters. Yeah, because my first time out

990
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: in Seattle a couple years ago, he was like, hey,

991
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: I don't recognize you and kept packling me, and I'm like,

992
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: oh boy, this is fun.

993
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: Remember when Carson Palmer brought his three close friends to

994
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: the game just so he could gesture to them at

995
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: the end.

996
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, there was that. There was six foot eight

997
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: Klais Campbell walking by and snagging one of the guy's

998
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: signs because he was looking at way. Kyler or Kalais

999
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: came that way and went right and then.

1000
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 4: Just went right on the corner.

1001
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Oh it's beautiful. What I don't like, though, is if

1002
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: you watch some of the other visiting teams that come in.

1003
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: He's a thing with opposing head coaches. Yeah, other head

1004
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: coaches will go over there, act they dap them up

1005
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: and and it bothers. You come on, I mean, where's

1006
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: the competitive fire.

1007
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: Don't do the wave right, don't go dap off damp

1008
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: up a posing fan.

1009
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not, okay quick?

1010
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: Uh the wave. Two of the places that got really

1011
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: popular originally in the States, because there's arguments that it

1012
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 3: might have happened in other continents was Detroit tiger games

1013
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: in eighty four and University of Washington football games in

1014
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: the eighties. Really, yeah, so that that that might It's

1015
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: funny there you bring up the wave in Seattle.

1016
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 5: Also, are you guys going to be dressed appropriately?

1017
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 3: Oh, it's not supposed to get above forty nine degrees

1018
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 3: while we're there.

1019
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: Is it going to rain?

1020
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 5: It might Saturday?

1021
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 4: Okay, what about Sunday?

1022
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 3: You never know, You just never know. I just I

1023
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: don't want I don't want Danny getting sideways upset about

1024
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 3: what she's wearing.

1025
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: Thanks, That would never happen.

1026
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: That would never happen.

1027
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: By the way, I always thought the wave was crazy. George,

1028
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: the old Oakland A's super fan, I would put crazy.

1029
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: George knows that reference is what.

1030
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: The tweet I sent you I saw over the Yeah, yeah,

1031
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: you sent it to me, and the guy said, I'm not.

1032
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: I would normally ask for sources. But this guy's name

1033
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: is Crazy George.

1034
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: Crazy George from the A's Games. When what you know,

1035
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: Crazy George. It might be too big nor cal specific

1036
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: for that one you attributed for the but like what

1037
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: time frame, like it would have been late seventies, early eighties,

1038
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: you know maybe, so okay, that's all right?

1039
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 4: Seattle? Is that is that close to your family? I

1040
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 4: guess no, because they're still more of the Bay Area.

1041
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 2: No, no, thankfully, I don't know enough. I'm just glad.

1042
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: I don't know clearly. I'm glad I don't own a

1043
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: sunglass shop in Seattle. You know. That's That's the one

1044
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: thing I mean, Darren. Of course it's going to be cloudy.

1045
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: Of course it's going to be in the forties or fifties,

1046
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: and it may not rain the entire game, but it'll

1047
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: come sideways for a good five minutes and you'll get

1048
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: soaked from head to toe and that then that'll be

1049
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: your lot in life for the rest of the day.

1050
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: That's what's gonna happen.

1051
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 3: I feel like he's already miserable. I haven't even gotten

1052
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: there yet.

1053
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 4: And you got to pack all the rain gear, have

1054
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: you ever considered laminating some of your pregame notes.

1055
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: I thought you're going to ask me considered laminating himself.

1056
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: Danny, sounds like most of the equipment guys on the sideline,

1057
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: like Calvic. After twenty years, you haven't figured out like

1058
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: some of those plastic sheets, but your notes inside like

1059
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: what are you doing? What are you doing?

1060
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: It's a fair quest.

1061
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 4: Shout out to the eq STAP. I made the same

1062
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: mistake in Green Bay my notes. I got up to

1063
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 4: the press box after being rained on pregame and I

1064
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: they were.

1065
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 5: Gone narrator and she was very very.

1066
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: Angry about it.

1067
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: I was not very very angry.

1068
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: Okay, very angry.

1069
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: Put a tablet, a couple of tablets into the cappax budget, Okay,

1070
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 2: so when we have to go paper, it can all

1071
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: be digital and make sure that they're waterproof.

1072
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 4: I'm just going to.

1073
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: Yes, you know that that'll that'll work, and that'll do

1074
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,319
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1075
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