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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Simis podcast. Today we

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Speaker 2: are breaking down episode three of Joey's season, and I

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Speaker 2: know Ben is gonna grill me on my friend Sidney

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Speaker 2: because she is basically the entire show.

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Speaker 3: There's a big storyline, Ashley.

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Speaker 2: Cannot wait only crap only.

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Speaker 4: I cannot wait to hear all of your opinions on it.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to probably just battle with you back

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Speaker 4: and forth. Let's get started before we die into Sydney,

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Speaker 4: because I do feel like it's going to take up

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Speaker 4: a majority of our episode.

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Speaker 2: Because it's peppered through the entire episode.

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Speaker 4: Sure, but we're gonna save all of it until the

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Speaker 4: very end because we'll break all those situations. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 4: start with the group date. It's a great group date,

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Speaker 4: I think because it brings in the golden ladies. I

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Speaker 4: do think it was fun. I also like this group date, Ashley,

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Speaker 4: because I do believe these kind of dates show the

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Speaker 4: personalities of the contestant.

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Speaker 3: Like this date.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be grandiose,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't have to cost a lot of money. It

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Speaker 4: doesn't have to be anything crazy or exciting. But what

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Speaker 4: I do love is the fact that I feel like

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Speaker 4: I know these women better after this date than I

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Speaker 4: ever would if they dressed up in wedding gowns.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love this date. This is a date that

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Speaker 2: you love to watch on TV. But when you're told

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Speaker 2: that you have to go on a date like this,

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh my gosh, I have to come up

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Speaker 2: with the talent. I have to answer a Q and

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Speaker 2: A on the spot in front of a live audience.

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Speaker 2: I have to model oh my gosh, no, thank you.

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Speaker 2: But it does tell so much about their personality, and

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Speaker 2: I think that Joey is able to tell who he

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Speaker 2: likes a lot based on a date like this, And

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Speaker 2: then it gives you a lot of content to talk

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Speaker 2: about in the night portion of the date as well.

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Speaker 4: The couple thoughts here for you. These dates are fun. Yes,

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Speaker 4: they make you nervous. But the thing that I think

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Speaker 4: when I was a bachelor, or when I'd have to

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Speaker 4: participate in a date like this as a cant, you

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Speaker 4: just kind.

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Speaker 3: Of got it.

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Speaker 4: If you don't have like a tangible skill that you

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Speaker 4: just know you could rock the room with, you just

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Speaker 4: want to do whatever, like just be confident, being silly, right,

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Speaker 4: singing a song if you're not a good singer, playing

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Speaker 4: a musical instrument, if you don't really know how to

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Speaker 4: play juggling the best you can, if you really only

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Speaker 4: know how to juggle one ball at a time, Like,

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Speaker 4: just do something up there so that you're not like

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Speaker 4: showing anger or showing like like that. Oh I don't

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Speaker 4: want to do it because I'm not good at anything,

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Speaker 4: Like just do whatever, be goofy. So it's really hard,

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Speaker 4: I think, to mess up these dates because you just

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Speaker 4: want to see people have a good time. The thing

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Speaker 4: I didn't like about this thing is going off what

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Speaker 4: I just said, and.

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Speaker 3: We will bring up Sydney here because this isn't really

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Speaker 3: a part of the drama.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt like she got un rightfully hated for

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Speaker 4: her response when she said I faked it.

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Speaker 2: I was so dumb, like, like, why are people mad.

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Speaker 3: That she's faked it?

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Speaker 4: It hasn't most I mean, I'm sure Jessica has Like

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Jessica's like yeah, that's all the time, Like

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Speaker 4: and I won't even care, like I get it, Like

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: That was just them trying to foreshadow like her saying

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Speaker 2: things that people would disagree with, but I think like,

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Speaker 2: in reality, nobody really disagrees with that. And then if

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Speaker 2: she had said she had said no, I haven't, then

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Speaker 2: wouldn't she be like then wouldn't everybody be like, oh, liar,

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Speaker 2: oh you're oh okay, yeah, so you're that great?

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Speaker 3: That you my question?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where I want to get some insight because

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Speaker 4: I heard it and I was like, Okay, it's unfortunate

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Speaker 4: that you've had to But is it that it's not

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Speaker 2: It's like Harry met Sally Staple. It's like everybody that's

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Speaker 2: like look it up on Google because I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: the stat will to come right right up. How many

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Speaker 4: This isn't the silent minority. This is the majority of

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Speaker 3: So one that was weird too. I felt like.

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Speaker 4: Sidney got unrightfully hated for her performance. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: Then I could see her people be like this a

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Speaker 2: I think that there was I don't think we saw

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. I'm sure people were far kinder in

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Speaker 2: real life than what it seemed like. And the only

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Speaker 2: reason it seemed so cringey to us was because the

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Speaker 2: the audience reaction was so quiet. And if it indeed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like clap for anybody, They're trying to try to

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Speaker 4: us knowing, you know, which is kind of in my

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Speaker 4: theme here, without us knowing, I would just say it

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Speaker 4: was she she got the row into the deal there.

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Speaker 4: If for what it looked like on TV, which was

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Speaker 4: then I would say that was me. Uh, that was

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Speaker 4: not nice. She was not on the meaning of that

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Speaker 4: was a very sad moment to watch. It was hard

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, so your cheer, you don't look

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. But all of them were

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Speaker 4: a little awkward, right, I mean there was so many of.

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Speaker 2: Even yeah, like it Leena singing like they made it

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Speaker 2: and it's like, guys, very.

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Speaker 4: Yed. There was a Duena singing, I forget all the

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Speaker 4: other acts, but like, there wasn't really one that was like,

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Speaker 4: I am so good at this thing. I cannot wait

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Speaker 4: to show you how good I am. It was like,

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Speaker 4: all Joey wanted. It's just like, let's have fun with this.

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Speaker 4: Let's not make this weirder than I already is.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about Lexi and the kiss? The

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Speaker 4: I don't like any moment where a lead kisses somebody

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think it's helpful. I always try to

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Speaker 2: So you would think that that moment was definitely more

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Speaker 3: Maybe not even villainus, because I get it, like.

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Speaker 2: In bad taste. But I didn't have I didn't I

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Speaker 2: don't have I didn't have an issue with it because

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Speaker 2: she did deliver the moment with such confidence that I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know as a contestant, I would have been

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, a lot more effected.

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Speaker 3: It would be living in my head. I'd be thinking

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Speaker 2: But of course the audience is going to go wild

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Golden Lads are great as always, They're legends.

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Speaker 4: They're great over this weekend too, They're very excited about them.

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Speaker 2: Was there this weekend Kathy and Susan oh okay, So

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Speaker 2: they were Susan oh okay, just the most outrageous of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're so fun, they're so wild, they're the best.

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Speaker 4: Actually, Kathy and I sat down for a really great

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Speaker 4: conversation as well, and that was that's powerful. Kathy is

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Speaker 4: great supporter of us. What good words of encouragement for

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Speaker 4: the two of us. But she's she was great. They're

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Speaker 3: I could hang out with them all the time, but

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Speaker 3: I'd be exhausted, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're like energy sucks because they're just non stop.

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Speaker 4: Like they could go from like I would walk out

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't like this. This is so exhausting

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's like a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: Okay, So then we go into the group date cocktail party.

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Speaker 4: This group date cocktail party is where the dramas kind

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Speaker 4: of starts. Yeah, so actually, actually actually I'm going to

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Speaker 4: ask to yeh. Actually, Ashley, I'm going to ask to

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Speaker 4: to get back to it, becase, because what I want

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Speaker 4: at this cocktail party later. They did have a cocktail party.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else worth mentioning on drama related with them?

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Speaker 4: Not really, other than the fact that the rose of

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Speaker 4: the cocktail party, the rose that went to Kelsey. That's

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Speaker 4: a big deal. It's kind of we'l see I feel

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Speaker 4: like coming out party. Honestly, this was kind of the

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Speaker 4: little bit more. I think we're ready to know her

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Speaker 4: a lot there as the season continues, but this is

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Speaker 4: really the first moment where we really got to know Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and he likes her.

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Speaker 3: Yes he does. Back of the mansion, Jess really wants

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Speaker 3: to go on one on one.

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Speaker 4: We're kind of seeing that play out, but the one

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Speaker 4: on one does get announced and it's for gin Jen

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Speaker 4: gets the one on one Daycart says, love is wild.

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Speaker 4: Uh and uh, I'm really pumped about this one on one.

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Speaker 4: I think Jin is kind of like a sneaky pick

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Speaker 4: right now. She kind of has moved way up in

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Speaker 4: my rankings after this.

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Speaker 2: She was you know, she was always in my rankings.

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Speaker 2: She was in my four.

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Speaker 3: She always was in your four.

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Speaker 4: Well, so I guess for you when you saw that

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I thought, well, obviously, but then I also thought, actually

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Speaker 4: But while they're on their date, she obviously gets the rose.

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Speaker 2: Well, then I can't say that there. I think, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Okay, continue then I just wanted to I want to

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00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 3: hear your there keep going.

442
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 2: We hear Sidney say that she called her like weird

443
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: and was it like stupid and embarrassing, and then there's

444
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 2: a couple of other things that I've heard that she's

445
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: called her but like it did not make air. And

446
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: I think one, you'd have to think that Sidney is

447
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: making that up, that she totally made that up out

448
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: of thin air and told Joey about that, so she's

449
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: a liar, or you can think that they you just

450
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: didn't see her saying that on TV. But I think

451
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: because there is seemingly this is all an argument over nothing,

452
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: and it certainly is not just about Medina in the

453
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: old comment. Now, like let's just forget about that. That

454
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: does not exist in my mind barely during this episode.

455
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of contexts missing, and that's

456
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: what I'll say.

457
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: I said, you couldn't use it as an excuse.

458
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 2: But I'm not using it as an excuse because I'm saying,

459
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: base on what I see on TV, it seems like

460
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: an argument about nothing, and I'm sure it's not an

461
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: argument about nothing.

462
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 3: Okay, you don't know what I see.

463
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see somebody obsessed with causing conflict with Maria,

464
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: like some for whatever reason, whatever we're seeing, not seeing

465
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 4: experience or not. Sydney could simply as we said last

466
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 4: week again, she's beautiful, she is confident like she obviously

467
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 4: you said it, so I have to trust you.

468
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 3: She's cool, like she's got so much.

469
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: She does not come across as cool though, like I

470
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 2: will admit this.

471
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 6: But I will say in life, I said she's cool. Yeah,

472
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 6: so what I will say is exactly what I said

473
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 6: last week. Still is Sidney, what are you doing?

474
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: Give it up? I mean, Maria and Medina got together

475
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: like they're.

476
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 4: Good, Like this cannot still be coming from the age thing,

477
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: but yet there's still this protection and Ashley the only

478
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 4: reason why I'm so confident.

479
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: And saying she should just give it up because this

480
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 3: is a weird obsession.

481
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: This is a line she crossed and I don't know

482
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: why they chose her to cross it or why she

483
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: chose to cross it, But the other women are not

484
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: having Sydney's back.

485
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: In fact, Sidney got up and walked away from the

486
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: cocktail party said anybody wants to follow me? I don't

487
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: want to do with this drama. Nobody followed her right

488
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: instead of.

489
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: Way, it seems like nobody followed her.

490
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: Nobody followed her.

491
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: That's what it seems.

492
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: Like, Ashley.

493
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 4: I know what you're trying to tell me. Okay, I

494
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 4: know what you're trying to say here. But in the

495
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: interviews the itms.

496
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: Only Alison and Aduena are talking, and Alison and a

497
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: Duena seem to be the only friends with Maria, and

498
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: it seems like Medina is friends. And then we have

499
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: Medina who's friends with Sydney, and then we have Aleyah

500
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: who's definitely friends but Maria.

501
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: They've talked, They're like, yeah, this is out of blown,

502
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 4: out of proportion, this isn't a thing, and yet Sidney

503
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 4: continues to go back to it.

504
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: Now.

505
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 4: I know what your claim is, that they're not showing

506
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 4: the whole story, right, but where are you getting that

507
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: information from?

508
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: I am getting the information for obviously one person. But

509
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: I can also tell you that I just trust her

510
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: more than I trust what I guess. I I just

511
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: trust her. I can trust her. But I would also

512
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: say this like she should not have ever gotten involved

513
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: with anything, Like even if she was this you know,

514
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: let's just pretend like Maria is saying evil things and

515
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: like she is screaming, name calling all this stuff, and

516
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 2: they for some reason are choosing not to show this.

517
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: I don't I still don't think Sidney should have gotten

518
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: in the mix of like being like the defender or

519
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: like the person who stands up to the villain. You

520
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: should just never be that person. But I also a

521
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: couple most point of view, having been there, and it's

522
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: just so much easier to say you shouldn't be that person,

523
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: because like, I obviously got myself involved in plenty of

524
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: drama even knowing that, like, it's not always your best.

525
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: Look So Sydney at this point, I guess if we

526
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 4: characterized her right from what we know of her on

527
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 4: the show so far. On the show, what we see

528
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: is somebody who is obsessed with getting Maria gone. She

529
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 4: is the one that is not supposed least, the only

530
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: one that's not scared of her. She is the one

531
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: that will stand up for the group, right she is

532
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: the one that's going to confront Maria. But right now,

533
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: it feels like Sidney continues to make something out of nothing,

534
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 4: continues to try to dig deeper to get Maria taught

535
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: or in trouble. That's what we're seeing from this episode.

536
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not. I'm not claiming any anything about Sydney.

537
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 4: In fact, again, I think I watch here and the

538
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 4: whole time I'm like, one stop, like just stop this,

539
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: whatever you're doing, stop it.

540
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: Turn course here, stop doing this. Right. Everybody else seems

541
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: to be not bothered by.

542
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: It, And I will say the one lesson you can

543
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: take if it means anybody's listening, that will at some

544
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 4: point they're like on the show, if everybody else is

545
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: not bothered by it, I don't think you should be either.

546
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: Definitely, it seems like no one else is bothered by it.

547
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: Uh.

548
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: I agree, though, Like I told Sidney after watching this episode,

549
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: I was like, you're not a villain. You're just gonna

550
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: come across no villain. I was like, you're just annoying,

551
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: you see, and you cringey, and everybody's gonna want you

552
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: to be gone because nobody wants to hear your drama

553
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 2: over nothing.

554
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 3: Yep.

555
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 4: Okay, but maybe we have different definitions. If everybody wants

556
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: you to be gone because you caused.

557
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: Drama, no, not in the house. Not in the house.

558
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying the viewers, the audience.

559
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 4: Okay, if everybody wants her to be gone because she

560
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: causes drama over nothing, does that not make her a film?

561
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: No, Because I think a villain is somebody who's being

562
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: like actually toxic and like a mean person. I don't

563
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: think she's doing She's not being a mean person right now.

564
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: We see her like, I mean, it kind of feels

565
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: like it to me.

566
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, Well, what do you think she said

567
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: that was mean?

568
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: Once? She's saying things that I don't think we fully saw, right.

569
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: So she's saying Maria said this and this and this

570
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: about me from watching it, I don't know that to

571
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: be true. I see Maria saying, hey, I'm her and

572
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 4: I'm confused by this. I want to fix this. Can we, like,

573
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: can we work through this and see? And he's like, no,

574
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: you're stop talking to me.

575
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: I'm gone. It feels like she's being very mean right now.

576
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: To Maria. It does not feel like Maria has been

577
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: mean to her yet.

578
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: Well, you know we hear that, Maria, you know, his

579
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: name calling her. She says that at least we do

580
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: hear her say that.

581
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: Who says that she tells.

582
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: That to Joey. She says, yeah, Sidney, so you think

583
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: that she's actually lying about everything?

584
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: I don't claim that. No, Actually I cannot claim for

585
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 3: her to be a liar.

586
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 4: That is not something I want to do here that

587
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: I don't think she's lying, but we don't see it.

588
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's just we're missing a

589
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: lot of contacts. I think.

590
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to be tough on Sydney. Here's the

591
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: deal again.

592
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: I wanted to make it very clear that when I

593
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: saw her and when I heard about her going on

594
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: the show and the great things that you said about

595
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: her to me, and then she is gorgeous like she is,

596
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: she's beautiful. Uh, And I do think I saw her

597
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 4: and said, I hope she makes it towards the end.

598
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: I think she has that potential, right.

599
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that she was going to make it.

600
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: Tarzanta a little bit of this when my response here

601
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 4: is frustration because I feel like for somebody that had

602
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: the opportunity to make it towards the end, she sabotaged it.

603
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 4: And she did it maybe a little bit clouded in judgment,

604
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 4: meaning some of the stuff she's saying, most of the

605
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: stuff she's saying we didn't see and so as a result,

606
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: the only thing I can see here or say here

607
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 4: is that she is causing controversy where controversy doesn't need

608
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: to exist, and she's sabotaging herself. And I'm frustrated with her,

609
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: and I'm frustrated with how this has been handled, and

610
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: I'm frustrated that continues to happen because I wanted your

611
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 4: friend to go far.

612
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: I wanted her to have a fair shot. I wanted

613
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: her to be beloved.

614
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: But I do think Ashley, if we're honest, she is

615
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: the villain of the season.

616
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: All right. I mean you can think that you might

617
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 2: be right, You might be right. Who knows, maybe like

618
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: some thing will come out. It's not building towards that

619
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: at all. Let's also say that they don't show any

620
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: moments of her with Joey, so like we don't know

621
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: her at all beyond the drama. So they're like, so like,

622
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: it's hard to like her for sure because we don't

623
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: know anything beyond her not liking Maria.

624
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: Well, we have seen her with Joey, and she was

625
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: she chose to immediately talk about Maria, and we know

626
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: that's not a good move and quite honestly, Ashley, we

627
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 4: also know that at this point in the season, there

628
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: isn't a lot of moments with Joey or with the lead,

629
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: and so the moment she has had probably three or four.

630
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: She didn't have a date the first week, so the.

631
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: Moments with Joey so far have been stuck talking about

632
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: somebody else. And here is advice number one when it

633
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: comes to being on the show. Don't spend your time

634
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 4: talking about somebody else. It never goes well. I would

635
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: love for her to have some more support here. I

636
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: don't want to not support her. I'm not saying I

637
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 4: dislike her, No, I know you're not. I'm just simply

638
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: saying I'm frustrated, and I honestly just don't enjoy it,

639
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: Like it's not fun for me.

640
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: I really think that I spelled out that, like, don't

641
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: be the one that gets involved in somebody else's drama.

642
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: But maybe I didn't because maybe that would have been

643
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: hypocritical of me. It's so hold on one second, I

644
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: know Jared did. Okay, So I got Jared upstairs and

645
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: because I know that he was watching the episode last night,

646
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, you know, if I'm home by

647
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: the time you're recording, like, I'd like to kind of

648
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: say my two cents, So Babe, this is your time

649
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: to say your two cents, because you know, you just

650
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: just go for it. We've already talked about don't bring

651
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: up the fash the pageant because that's so inconsequential, just

652
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: like your overall take on what Sidney situation, because Ben

653
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: thinks that she is the villain, like an actual villain.

654
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: He thinks that she's being mean, and I said, I

655
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: don't think she's being mean. I just think she's getting

656
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: herself far too involved.

657
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 5: First and foremost, obviously we're friends with Sidney.

658
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: You've established this.

659
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 5: But like my point being is if anybody is like, oh,

660
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 5: you're just defending your friend, yeah, we're defending our friend. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

661
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 5: If we're going to try to defend friends, I don't

662
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 5: know if that's what people do out there, but hopefully

663
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 5: you're cool with that, and if you're not, then maybe

664
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 5: you should turn this off right now.

665
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: And here's my only thing, Jared, I want you to

666
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: defend friends, and I don't want to ruin Sydney on

667
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: this podcast. That's not fun and it's not what we

668
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: do here.

669
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: But we're gonna tell how it is, Yes, but I

670
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 5: want you to.

671
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: Be honest, like, don't don't come on here and just

672
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: like say stuff that like will sugarcoat it, Like I

673
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: want honesty still.

674
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: Oh, I agree, I want honesty as well. I've always

675
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 5: been in the camp that I think even when so

676
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 5: Lois just burst it through the door. So when Sidney

677
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 5: first came back, obviously we talked to her, and from

678
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 5: the initial get go, I was like, I'm nervous for

679
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: you because it sounds like she's the girl that continues

680
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 5: to go to the Bachelor to talk about other girls

681
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 5: or specifically this one girl. And then obviously it's the

682
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 5: way it played out. So what I feel bad for

683
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 5: is I do think that Sydney was trying to do

684
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 5: the right thing by sticking up for her friends. But

685
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 5: at the same time, how many times have we seen

686
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 5: this where it's this girl who continues to not let

687
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 5: something go and thinks that someone is a bad person

688
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: or someone's mean. And I'm sure who's I suck? And

689
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, what is the name of the girl?

690
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: Maria?

691
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: Maria?

692
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: I knew that, so I'm sure Maria has I'm sure

693
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: Maria has been mean to some girls and has said

694
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 5: some crappy things, but that doesn't give Sydney the right

695
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 5: to like continue to harp on it, which it feels

696
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 5: like she was doing, and whether she was doing that

697
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: on her own or she was certainly not getting pressure

698
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: but getting like hyped up from other cast members or

699
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: producers like regardless, I was hoping that she would know

700
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 5: better than to like continue to go to The Bachelor

701
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 5: and like talk about this other girl because it's like, oh,

702
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 5: like let it go, let it go. So this episode

703
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 5: was not good for her obviously. The annoying part is

704
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: like the whole thing is just annoying. Like that's what

705
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 5: I feel.

706
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: That's what I said. I was like, she's annoying and cringing,

707
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: but like I don't think she's mean.

708
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: Nah, I definitely don't think she's mean. I think what

709
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 5: is annoying, And we see this routinely on the show

710
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 5: is that because it just feels like there's always this

711
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: drama early on where it's annoying drama, right because it's like,

712
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 5: you know, the relationship, there's still so many people that

713
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 5: were not like as invested in the actual relationships that

714
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 5: matter yet, so it's all this like drama between girls

715
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: that were like okay, like they're obviously not going to

716
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: be there for much longer. And that's what it feels

717
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 5: like with Sydney and everybody. So I feel bad for

718
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 5: Sydney because she's getting it twofold, because I feel like

719
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 5: she's involved in drama that she's on the wrong side of,

720
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: and she's involved in drama that people are just annoyed

721
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 5: at rather than like care about.

722
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: It has like no connection with them. So people all

723
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: so I'm like, oh.

724
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 4: No, okay, question for you guys kind of close us out.

725
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 4: You knew this storyline was coming down the pipeline. You've

726
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 4: talked to city before the show aired. You knew her story.

727
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: Is it better or worse than what you than knew

728
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 4: what you expected.

729
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: When she came back and told me her story, I

730
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, it seems like she'll be a person

731
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: of prominence. I can't promise this is in my head.

732
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: I was like, it can go both ways for her.

733
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: I had faith and positivity that it would go in

734
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: her direction and she would look good. But I knew

735
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: there was like an inkling that she might and I

736
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: just that she might not.

737
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 5: Here's I gotta be honest, the entire time, I thought

738
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 5: that it wasn't gonna go well, but I was hoping

739
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 5: I was just wrong, because I've been wrong many times

740
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 5: before and I'll be wrong again. Unfortunately, it doesn't feel

741
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 5: like we were wrong about this. You were not wrong,

742
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: but what because the problem is we all know, of course,

743
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: like like how many times I keep saying this, but

744
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: we all know that the show's condensed to an hour

745
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 5: and twenty minutes with four or five days worth, so

746
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 5: like there's gonna be so much that's just left out,

747
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: not because like the show's intentionally trying to put things,

748
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 5: you know, like they're just creating a story around the

749
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 5: kind of the what overall happened during filming, right, So

750
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 5: it's like they have to condense everything, and so it's

751
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 5: hard for me to hear SID. You know, it's because

752
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: it's like, of course there are things that are not

753
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 5: going to be aired, but that's just the way the

754
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 5: show is, and it's not right or wrong. It's just

755
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 5: like how this this area works. And so I feel

756
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: bad for Sid because it's just like there's so much

757
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: out of context, and it's like I know, and that sucks,

758
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 5: and it's hard because you want everybody to see everything.

759
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: But they couldn't show at all.

760
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 4: That's why you don't get involved in these sticky situations,

761
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: because you know they're gonna try to tell the story

762
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 4: and as effective and efficient as way as possible, which means, yes,

763
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: the small conversation you had with somebody else might not

764
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 4: be shown.

765
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: It's gonna get cut out.

766
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: You have to know if you expect them to show

767
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: this whole thing, you would have taken up even more

768
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: of this episode.

769
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: And I still don't know if it would have gone

770
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: well for you.

771
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: Like stay, guys, this from two men who played it

772
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: so right on the show. You just focus on your

773
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: connection with people and not about any of the outside,

774
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: which is.

775
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: Not intriguing to me.

776
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: It's too complex. I never understood anything that was going on.

777
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: People were doing weird stuff the whole time, and I

778
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: didn't want to understand it because it was just there's

779
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 4: too much happening and it moves too fat for me.

780
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 3: And so as a.

781
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 4: Result, Jared and I sat on the couch and talk football.

782
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: And that's a world I know, in a world I

783
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 4: can live in, in a world I can get along in.

784
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: And yes, we might have argued, but it definitely wasn't

785
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: about anything that really matters in this world.

786
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

787
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 5: I think Ben and I both while filming, were always like,

788
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: if something was happening, we were never going to be

789
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 5: the person to be like, we need to tell Caitlyn

790
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: about this. And it's like, Caitlyn has a good head

791
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 5: on her shoulders, she has tons of producers around her.

792
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: She'll be fine. I'm not worried about Kaitlyn, you know.

793
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm worried about me that guy. Yeah, I don't need

794
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: to be that guy.

795
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 4: This isn't This isn't something that I need to carry.

796
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: I don't need to be the protector of the house

797
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: name the last protector of the house where it's gone

798
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 4: well for them.

799
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: Never happened exactly.

800
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: But that's why Jared was concerned when Sidney told him

801
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: her story, because it sounded like she was the only

802
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: person that really was being vocal.

803
00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 5: But it's hard because I also understand that sidney intention

804
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 5: was a good intention. She was trying to help friends

805
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 5: and trying to like stick up and be that person.

806
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: And it's hard to tell someone, especially in the aftermath,

807
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 5: that they were wrong because I know that she was

808
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 5: trying to do the right thing.

809
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: I know.

810
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 5: So it's like sometimes you.

811
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: Can't help yourself and you feel so compelled to do it.

812
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: And that's where I came.

813
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 5: From, and especially in that world, because you know, everything

814
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: happens just so fast that you just you know, it's

815
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: like before you know it, you're You've already talked to

816
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 5: Joey about this numerous times, and you're like, where where

817
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: did the time? Like how did this happen? You know,

818
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 5: you kind of just everything's on you know, times too there.

819
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: I believe her intentions were good. I think the lesson

820
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: of this story, though, is I also, I get to

821
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: see a woman on this show this season that I

822
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: don't believe is capable of sticking up for themselves. I've

823
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: get to seen it, and so I don't know why

824
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: they would need Sydney to do it for them. I

825
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: think every and then, Quite honestly, I would think if

826
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: I was on the show and I had a friend,

827
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 4: if Jared was going up to Kaitlin being like, you

828
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: know what this person's really mean to Ben, I would

829
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: probably tell Jared, hey man, you can just stay out

830
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 4: of it, because I don't want That's not a story

831
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 4: I need to continue to like promote Kaitlyn doesn't really

832
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: know about it. Kind of makes me look weak, kind

833
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: of makes me look you know, not capable. I just

834
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 4: I think it's good intentions. I just don't think it's

835
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: necessary and I think it gets shown to be it

836
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 4: doesn't get shown in a good light.

837
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I would agree with that. I think it

838
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 5: is also different. There is a difference between a guy

839
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: and a girl doing it because as we've seen with

840
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: the show previously, and like, there is this element of

841
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 5: girls sticking up for girls, which I obviously can't really

842
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: speak upon all that well because I'm not a female.

843
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 5: But of course, like you know, like for example, but

844
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: a lot of people talked about on The Golden Bachelor

845
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 5: was the idea of that these girls were like all

846
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 5: together and like they liked that, they liked the unity

847
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 5: of it together. So I understand that, like maybe in

848
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 5: Sid's head, she was like, you know, we're kind of

849
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 5: in this together, so to speak. And I want to

850
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: help out a friend having said that, I'm more in

851
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 5: line with you than I am with her. But at

852
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: the same time, I know Sid personally and it's like

853
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: I want to make sure that I'm I'm on her

854
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: side as well, and make that very clear.

855
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: I don't think your intentions were bad.

856
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: I don't think this is going to be like one

857
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 4: of those memorable villainous moments. I don't even think whenever

858
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: this ends, I don't think people remember this happened this

859
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: season like this is such and that's a good reminder

860
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 4: for Sidney is to tell her, hey, to this will

861
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: come and go faster than you ever expected and it's

862
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 4: going to be okay, like it will oh one hundred percent.

863
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 4: I just think right now, it's a very annoying, weird look.

864
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: I think it is cringey. I think it's hard to watch.

865
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: I think it's unnecessary. I don't think Sydney's getting to

866
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: get into the deal here, no matter how this really

867
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 4: played out in real life, if it was how it's

868
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 4: happening or not. I unfortunately it's a very drama less

869
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: season so far, and so she is going to get

870
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: the attention right now, like she's going to get the

871
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 4: feedback and she's gonna feel it for a bit and

872
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: that's not fun for anybody. So she needs good friends

873
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: like you guys to sit beside her right now to

874
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 4: tell her, hey, yeah, this is like tell her truth

875
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: like this isn't fun, Like this doesn't look good. But

876
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: ain't nobody out there really hating on you. They're just

877
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: criticizing the moment and that's exactly.

878
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: And to all the people out there that are like

879
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: they can't believe they are offending their friend like that,

880
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, think about all the villains that you

881
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: watched on Bachelor and you couldn't stand and then when

882
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: it came to Bachelor in Paradise, you got to know

883
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: them a little bit more and you totally forgot about

884
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: what they did in the Bachelor because you got to

885
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: know them more. Like just you know, that's just you

886
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: need to know somebody more. But before you just jumped

887
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: to these judgments.

888
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: It's hard to dislike somebody once you get to know them, right.

889
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 5: As Yeah, it's it's very hard. But let me just

890
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: say one more thing before I get out of here,

891
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 5: is that listen, I would never tell anybody what to

892
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: think or give their opinion. Of course, Like if you're like, wow,

893
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 5: Sidney so annoying, I mean, have your opinion. I don't

894
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 5: really care, but please keep you to yourself and off

895
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: social media directly at Sydney, just like, don't comment guys, and.

896
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you kidding me? You guys like that

897
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: was nothing last week?

898
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like my I mean, I know everybody says this,

899
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 5: just don't don't like go on and there's no reason

900
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 5: for you to go underneath one of her pictures and

901
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: voice your opinion and be like I thought you sucked. Like,

902
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 5: there's no reason for that. Like, keep it in the

903
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 5: living room, watching TV. Whatever your thoughts are, except if

904
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 5: they're good and you're like, we love Sidney, then maybe

905
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 5: you should write that because that would make her feel very,

906
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 5: very good right now.

907
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: Also, us supporting Sydney in this way does not mean

908
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: that we are not like rooting on Maria and like

909
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: think that Maria sucks or anything like that. We're just

910
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: saying that there is possibly two sides of.

911
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: You gave good, honest feedback on this episode. It is

912
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: a wild episode. It is a crazy episode full of

913
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: Sydney and Maria extravaganza. It's not stopping soon because the

914
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 4: two of them did get a rose, so they're both

915
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: on the next week.

916
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Speaker 3: We'll see more of that. Honestly, another great.

917
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 4: Episode of That's Her Joey crushes It Ashley to close

918
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Speaker 4: out here, we're gonna go top two right now.

919
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: For you, Top two is going to be Daisy and Well,

920
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: it's toss up between Lexi and Kelsey A, but we'll

921
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: go with Lexi.

922
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Daisy and Rachel.

923
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good choice.

924
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: So we don't think Sydney's top to, just confirming that.

925
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: We're just confirming that Sidney is definitely not top to.

926
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Speaker 3: That's one thing you can't stan under her picture. Hey,

927
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Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna be top two.

928
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 5: Joey wasn't your guy?

929
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: That's it? Y? Yeah, If anything, Joe's that you got

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00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: all right?

931
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Speaker 4: Hey, this is an almost famous podcast, Jared, thanks for

932
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 4: jumping on. We'll be back next week breaking down another

933
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 4: episode of Joey season The Bachelor, and also again reminder

934
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 4: that we have more content come from Carmel. We also

935
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: have an almost good advice coming out very soon. It's

936
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 4: going to be incredible. It's been a lot of fun

937
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: doing it. Ashley's crushing it. I feel like this almost

938
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 4: good Advice has gotten a lot of traction and it's

939
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: been really exciting for us.

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Speaker 3: So until next time, I've been Ben.

941
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: I've been Ashley, and you've been Jered Babe Bye.

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