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Speaker 1: The Big Vets on Campus Podcast podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, Horny Cody, five fifty.

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Speaker 3: Canna kick as Black college Football, Laura Stunners, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: Turn a corner on the inside, don't you The lad

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Speaker 2: came off the fail the nights go. It's not the

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Speaker 2: size of the dog in the fight. It's the size

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Speaker 2: of the fight in the dog. Welcome to the Big

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Speaker 2: Bets on Campus Podcast is the group of five deep

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Speaker 2: Dive and today I'm joined by two college football number

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Speaker 2: crunching mad men, Colin Wilson and joshn On aka Duck.

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Speaker 2: I'm my Calbreys and may I be the first person

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Speaker 2: to tell you welcome back to college Football Conference. Previous

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Speaker 2: season has arrived. I'm going full Dan Campbell mode. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna grab my what is this Aventie iced coffee? Two

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Speaker 2: shots of espresso. I'm getting ready for everything we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be breaking down here in the coming weeks. It all

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Speaker 2: starts with our beloved fun Belt. We're so excited. We're

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Speaker 2: even going to have a quick message from our audio director,

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Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell.

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Speaker 4: That's a good thing. Hi, everybody, this is audio director

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Speaker 4: Matt Mitchell and welcome to Big Bets on Campus. This

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Speaker 4: will be our eighth college football season at Action Network,

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Speaker 4: and it will be our fifth here under the Big

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Speaker 4: Bets on Campus banner. If you have been with us

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Speaker 4: from the very beginning, welcome back you absolute degenerate. If

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Speaker 4: you're new, I think you're gonna like it. A lot

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Speaker 4: of weird, crazy maniac behavior from this collection of absolute obsessives.

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Speaker 4: Coming up over the next two weeks, we will cover

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Speaker 4: absolutely every team in college football from top to bottom,

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Speaker 4: mostly in ninety ish minute formats because I've proven completely

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Speaker 4: incapable of limiting this group in how much they want

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Speaker 4: to talk about teams like Louisiana Monroe. But regardless, it's

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Speaker 4: a labor of love and we all love it here

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Speaker 4: at Big Bets on Campus. I hope you stick with

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Speaker 4: us for the entirety of the season, as we welcome

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Speaker 4: new contributor Joshua nonaka Duck, who we're very happy to

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Speaker 4: have here. Coming up, we will have a recap episode

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Speaker 4: that we record on Sundays that comes out Monday mornings

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Speaker 4: with your unhinged voicemails on Wednesdays, you'll hear the Group

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Speaker 4: of five deep dive with Duck and Calibres. On Thursday,

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Speaker 4: late afternoons, we record our flagship betting previews with Stucky

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Speaker 4: and Colin Wilson. Those will be out a little earlier

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Speaker 4: the schedule allows it, but after that it will be

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Speaker 4: a late Thursday afternoon affair as it always is. Coming

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Speaker 4: up next week, the group will dive into all the

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Speaker 4: remaining teams in the Group of five, and then after that,

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Speaker 4: coming up the week of the eleventh, we will have

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Speaker 4: an absolutely exhaustive breakdown of every team in the Power

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Speaker 4: for Big ten Monday, SEC Tuesday, Big twelve on Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: and ACC on Thursday. Obviously we've got the Pac two,

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Speaker 4: we've got some independence Notre Dame to squeeze in there.

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Speaker 4: We'll get them all in there, don't you worry. Thanks

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Speaker 4: again for joining us. If you have any questions, concerns,

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Speaker 4: can always email me at podcasts at actionnetwork dot com

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Speaker 4: and I will always respond directly to you because that's

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Speaker 4: the kind of effort my Lord and Savior Nick Saban

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Speaker 4: would demand of me. Thanks for listening, have fun, And I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna tell you what if I had a barometer of

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Speaker 1: it was about fifty percent.

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Speaker 3: Why do you push yourself?

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, It's high time a Sun Belt team

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Speaker 2: in the COVID season, they were blocked by Cincinnati. James

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Speaker 2: All right, gentlemen, let's hop right in. We have a

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Speaker 2: it because even without Sluca year one for Chesney at

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Speaker 2: line returns Carter Sweezy Pat McMurtry could both be first

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Speaker 2: That's a huge thing that you need to understand about

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Speaker 2: They bring in Isaiah Austin, a six to three receiver

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Speaker 2: at safety after picking off five balls. What does Chesney

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Speaker 2: Colin Hitchler, worked under Luke Fickele worked at Alabama last

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Speaker 2: huge get for a program like James Madison now they

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Speaker 2: Andrew Todaeo comes in from Colgate after going All Patriot

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Speaker 2: League last season. The theme here is experience, production, depth.

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Speaker 2: They just need Emmanuel Bush to be a killer on

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Speaker 2: finally win the Belts. Do you see the same thing calling, Well.

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Speaker 3: What's amazing is that entire intro of James Madison, you

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Speaker 3: didn't even mention that there's also more quarterbacks than Matthew

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Speaker 3: Sluca coming here for James Madison, which is really important.

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Speaker 3: Depth at the G five level is imperative because they

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Speaker 3: get fleeced by power for programs, offensive line, secondaries, they

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Speaker 3: you didn't mention the quarterback Alonzo Barnett, the third He's

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Speaker 3: being named to a watch list, awards list, and now

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Speaker 3: Chesney's coming out saying he is going to return from injury.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling optimistic that he's going to come back. So

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Speaker 3: you know, Sluca is probably sitting over there like, oh

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Speaker 3: another nil deal before he comes back. So we'll see

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Speaker 3: So when you look at James Madison's number, I make

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Speaker 3: I mean just to have three quarterbacks and this, you know,

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Speaker 3: fifty percent of the defense returns. They lose some havoc makers,

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Speaker 3: but you know, Jacob Thomas and safety returns three I

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Speaker 3: T's two PBUs could be the best secondary in the conference.

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Speaker 3: other than that, I mean, out of the East Division,

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Speaker 3: they draw you know, Josso, I'm sorry, Georgia, Southern Old Dominion,

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Speaker 3: app State all in Harrisonburg. So when you're playing your division,

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Speaker 3: good thing. So everything here sets up. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: good they are on the West podcast. They do have

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Speaker 3: me is to win the East. There are a couple

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Speaker 3: books out there that let you pick who wins the

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Speaker 3: a ticket that you're going to take into the Sun

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Speaker 3: Belt Championship game, They're not going to be an underdog

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Speaker 3: find a three to one to win the conference, that's

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Speaker 2: All right, Purple Tinted Glasses, are you on board as well? Duck?

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Speaker 5: I am I bet James Madison to win the Sun

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Speaker 5: All the road conference games are winnable. You have two opportunities,

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Speaker 3: I think I want to mention that that Louisville game

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Speaker 2: When you use Sluka to get those third and fives

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Speaker 2: winning formula to knock off a top team. Now, granted,

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Speaker 2: and seven. Last season, four and four in the Belt.

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Speaker 2: They are ten to one to win the conference this year.

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Speaker 2: Their win total is sitting at five and half. They

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Speaker 5: Definitely an emerging team that has a positive trajectory and

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Speaker 5: definitely has some potential. You know, this old Dominion bunch

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Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily going to say that they'll upheave James

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Speaker 5: This is another important thing in the win total market

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Speaker 3: Out for the better bet.

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Speaker 5: I definitely think this team is capable of making a

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Speaker 5: I think it's a really feisty group in Sunbelt East

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Speaker 3: I'll add to that, Yes, I'm positive for Old Dominion,

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Speaker 3: last year, that's going to catch everybody's attention. That does

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Speaker 3: I'm just really sick and tired of shitty ass books

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Speaker 3: they pride themselves Old Dominion offensive coordinator Kevin Decker prides

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what the Old Dominion offense is now. You know,

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Speaker 3: four pressure is really going to help out the defense.

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Speaker 3: It's an unproven secondary, could be the worst unit in

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Speaker 3: all of the Sun Belt. That makes me a little

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Speaker 3: bit nervous. And then Duck kind of mentioned the schedule.

434
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're facing Coastal and Marshall and back to

435
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Speaker 3: back weeks, both of them are coming off of buys.

436
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Speaker 3: Then you're gonna go on the road again, double back

437
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Speaker 3: to back road travel against James Madison. I do like

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Speaker 3: the over here. I don't like betting money on a

439
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Speaker 3: teams that are sloppy with the football and drop it

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Speaker 3: get a six out there at a normal price, I

443
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Speaker 3: will consider it and it'll be a low of you play.

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Speaker 2: All right, we just mentioned it. There's kind of a

459
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Speaker 2: cluster of three teams at the top here in the East.

460
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Speaker 2: Let's get to Georgia Southern. They went eight and five

461
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Speaker 2: last year, six and two in the belt New Orleans

462
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Speaker 2: Bowl lost to Sam Houston by five thirty one twenty six.

463
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Speaker 2: They're plus eight to fifty to win the conference. Their

464
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Speaker 2: win total sitting at seven and a half. They have

465
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Speaker 2: ten starters returning evenly, five on each side of the ball,

466
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Speaker 2: forty second returning production thirty seventh an offense, sixty second

467
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Speaker 2: on defense.

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Speaker 6: Clay Helton has done it again.

469
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Speaker 2: Four of Clay Helton's five starters upfront played significant snaps

470
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Speaker 2: last season. Blocking for j C French. The fourth is

471
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Speaker 2: critical because when he has time, he's great, and when

472
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Speaker 2: he's pressured, he's a walking turnover worthy play. He was

473
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Speaker 2: pressured on one hundred and forty one dropbacks last season

474
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Speaker 2: and that translated to twenty turnover worthy plays. That was

475
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Speaker 2: the third highest pressure rate in the Belt and tied

476
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Speaker 2: for second most turnover worthy plays in the conference. Oj

477
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Speaker 2: Arnold comes in. I think he's a perfect replacement for

478
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Speaker 2: Jalen White at running back. He's a sleeper in fantasy circles,

479
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Speaker 2: so it seems as though production wise they're gonna be

480
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Speaker 2: able to do the same thing. Out of the running

481
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Speaker 2: back room. Josh Dallas and Dalen Cobb give him familiar targets.

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Speaker 2: By him, I mean Jac French to throw to. Ryan

483
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Speaker 2: Applan needs to take this offense to the next level, though,

484
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Speaker 2: and it's possible with this schedule because it is light

485
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Speaker 2: on fearsome defenses. Defensively, there's a real strengthen the secondary.

486
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Speaker 2: With four starters returning out of the five roles. But

487
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Speaker 2: keep in mind they finished one hundred and twentieth against

488
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Speaker 2: the pass, albeit with thirteen interceptions, which was good for

489
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Speaker 2: thirty six nationally last year. So they gambled and when

490
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Speaker 2: they did sometimes they hit it big with those thirteen picks.

491
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Speaker 2: Can they deal with the loss of Marcus Watson Trent

492
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Speaker 2: though at linebacker who left for Riches from Nebraska. He

493
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Speaker 2: was the defensive player of the year one hundred and

494
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Speaker 2: eighteen tackles, seven and a half tackles for lost, four

495
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Speaker 2: force fumbles. He was their big play man on that

496
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Speaker 2: side of the ball. He was a monster. Brandon Tyson

497
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Speaker 2: comes in. He's apparently been turning heads in the offseason,

498
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Speaker 2: But Watson Trent was a hard and soul kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: So I have my questions about what they're going to

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Speaker 2: look like from a toughness perspective. I think this number

501
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Speaker 2: is just about right. It's a pass for me at

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Speaker 2: seven and a half. French also scares me a little

503
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Speaker 2: bit because if they're going to try to go neck

504
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Speaker 2: and neck with a program like James Madison, he has

505
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Speaker 2: to I would say, almost cut these turnover worthy plays

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Speaker 2: in half. I'll go to you first, Colin. Do you

507
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Speaker 2: think Georgia Southern has the goods to be able to

508
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Speaker 2: have this glow up this season? And is JC French

509
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Speaker 2: the man to do it?

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Speaker 3: J C. French was on my radar for the beginning

511
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Speaker 3: of Lassie is like, what is this kid doing? Then

512
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: the book got out on him and coverages started to

513
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Speaker 3: change a little bit and he kind of disappeared. Listen,

514
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Speaker 3: I make Georgia Southern about six point six, so under

515
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Speaker 3: seven and a half as a play. It is in

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Speaker 3: the action app. And let's go in a little bit

517
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Speaker 3: further deeper dive about what I think about this team

518
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Speaker 3: potentially the best quarterback, running back, wide receiver combo in

519
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Speaker 3: the Sunbelt. You can't deny that French went seventeen and

520
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Speaker 3: seventeen to I int ratio before the bowl game against

521
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Speaker 3: Sam Houston as seventy nine offensive line starts come back.

522
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Speaker 3: That is more than any other Sun Belt team. And

523
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Speaker 3: that is something that you have to take note of

524
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Speaker 3: in these G five levels about how many starts we

525
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Speaker 3: have coming back on the offensive line up in the SEC.

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Speaker 3: In the Big ten, you can just slot in some

527
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Speaker 3: five star blue chip and he'll be okay after like

528
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Speaker 3: five snap. Slot Josh Dallas two point one yards per

529
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Speaker 3: route run. That makes us an extremely potent offense that

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Speaker 3: everybody needs to be aware of. But you mentioned for

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Speaker 3: replacing the defensive player of the year on the defensive side.

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Speaker 3: This is a little bit weird because generally with the

533
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Speaker 3: teams were light on secondary and we may have experience

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Speaker 3: in the front seven. It's the backwards effect here for

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Speaker 3: Georgia Southern. We have one of the best secondaries in

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Speaker 3: the Sun Belt, and we have a lot of question

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Speaker 3: marks in defensive front seven. So it's one of those

538
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Speaker 3: things like when they played Boise State last year and

539
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Speaker 3: Ashton Genty went for a billion yards and Boise scored

540
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Speaker 3: a billion points and Georgia Southern did too well. I

541
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Speaker 3: feel like the same thing is about to happen here

542
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Speaker 3: where everybody's gonna be able to run. Everyody's going to

543
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Speaker 3: get about eight yards per carry against this Georgia Southern

544
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Speaker 3: defensive front seven, and Georgia Southern is gonna have to

545
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Speaker 3: keep up offensively. They can do that, But I like

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Speaker 3: what they return in their secondary. They're starting strong safety,

547
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Speaker 3: the two returning corners. That's all gonna work well for them.

548
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Speaker 3: Projected to TD Underdog against James Madison, so I can't

549
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Speaker 3: consider them to really do any damage for the sun

550
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Speaker 3: Belt or for the division or anything. They do draw

551
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Speaker 3: Arkansas State from the other side, so that's kind of

552
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Speaker 3: a bonus. We'll get to that on the west side.

553
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Speaker 3: Southern Miss a little bit of wildcard. We'll talk about

554
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Speaker 3: that also. But look at this schedule under seven and

555
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Speaker 3: a half. Try to find me eight wins on here,

556
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Speaker 3: because I don't think you're going out to Fresno and

557
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Speaker 3: beating matt Ns and I don't think you're going to

558
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Speaker 3: USC as good as you know this offense can be.

559
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Speaker 3: You're going back to back West Coast trips. I don't

560
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Speaker 3: know if they're staying that week, but you're going back

561
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Speaker 3: to back West Coast trips after USC to take on

562
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Speaker 3: a defensive USC that I think is massively improved. I

563
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Speaker 3: could see them starting zero to two. So if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna take under seven and a half, your spot to

565
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Speaker 3: hedge is week three against Jacksonville State. Who you guys, Hey,

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Speaker 3: a shout out to you guys doing the conference USA.

567
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Speaker 3: I don't we haven't released yet, so I don't know

568
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Speaker 3: what you said. I think Jacksonville State is dog shit,

569
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Speaker 3: So I I think I think the I think the

570
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Speaker 3: hedge spot for under seven and a half comes Week

571
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Speaker 3: three against Jacksonville State. If you're feeling like you want

572
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Speaker 3: to go against that under, but I like under seven

573
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Speaker 3: and a half. I put my own money on it.

574
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Speaker 3: It's in the app.

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Speaker 2: Colin. I thought that you were a thorough numbers based guy.

576
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Speaker 2: I figured you'd come with you know the vrbo airbnb

577
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: rentals in the Fresno area. Are they gonna stay on

578
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Speaker 2: the West Coast? I guess we're gonna have to wait.

579
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Speaker 3: Airport code fat fat Presno.

580
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Speaker 2: All right, Zuck, I saw you not a along a

581
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Speaker 2: lot with this potential under. Is that correct?

582
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

583
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Speaker 5: The two West Coast trips will be interesting to see

584
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Speaker 5: how this group handles the travel in those situations. I

585
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 5: actually have them peg to beat Jacksonville State, and I

586
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Speaker 5: have factor that into playing the under even with a win.

587
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 5: I've got this team starting too and four with a

588
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 5: tough road trip at James Madison and then they host

589
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Speaker 5: Southern miss who we'll get to here later on in

590
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Speaker 5: the program. But I just feel like this is gonna

591
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Speaker 5: be a unique situation for Georgia Southern where they're gonna

592
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 5: have to kind of rally the troops after a slow

593
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 5: first half of the season start. I do believe that

594
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Speaker 5: Georgia Southern was the benefactor of some luck last year,

595
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 5: and they probably won three games that they didn't deserve

596
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Speaker 5: to win. So you're getting an elevated number anyway based

597
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Speaker 5: on last year's performance. Colin, you hit it right on

598
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Speaker 5: the head. This front seven, you can run on them,

599
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: and they don't really plug the holes they I mean,

600
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Speaker 5: the numbers were made worse by playing against Mississippi and

601
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Speaker 5: Ashton gent but when you look game by game, it

602
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 5: was not overly exceptional as far as Sun Belt standards

603
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Speaker 5: for stopping the run last year. And I just need

604
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 5: to see more offensively. You know, we saw the Clay

605
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 5: Helton system and Ryan Applan's pass happy offense, but it

606
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 5: was a lot of dink and donk. It was less

607
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: explosive than what this offense really wants to be. And

608
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Speaker 5: I think we're going to see some maturation by Ryan

609
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Speaker 5: Applan this year in his offensive coordinator ability to scheme

610
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Speaker 5: stuff up. They have a really athletic tight end room,

611
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Speaker 5: and I think they're going to try to run the

612
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Speaker 5: ball a little bit more. They might use some twelve personnel,

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Speaker 5: which we're not accustomed to seeing it Georgia Southern ever,

614
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Speaker 5: and they might try to get some of those athletic

615
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Speaker 5: big tight ends with big frames involved. So I'll be

616
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Speaker 5: interested to see how that kind of gets worked in.

617
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Speaker 5: But they're going to have to figure that out after

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Speaker 5: those first two games because at Fresno and at USC

619
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Speaker 5: are not the environments to do that. I think that'll

620
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Speaker 5: be hosting Jacksonville State and then hosting Maine will be

621
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Speaker 5: the opportunity to see some of that change in offensive dynamic.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, under seven and a half I leaned that way. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: I have this group starting out at two and four.

624
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Speaker 5: I think there's another loss somewhere along the way here,

625
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Speaker 5: likely Old Dominion or Coastal Carolina can get them. I

626
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Speaker 5: think it's six and six or seven and fiveteen.

627
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Speaker 2: If you notice the trend from this episode, we started

628
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Speaker 2: with a lot of optimism for James Madison. As we

629
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Speaker 2: go down the ladder here a little bit of hates

630
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Speaker 2: is creeping in, and it starts with Coastal Carolina. I

631
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Speaker 2: know that Colin is going to care deeply about this one.

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Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, where highways meet the ocean here

633
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Speaker 1: was just what the doctor rogers and very pleasant medicine

634
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Speaker 1: to take. Myrtle Beach BA is the distinction of being

635
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Speaker 1: the only city actually built on the ocean front between

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Speaker 1: Maine and Florida.

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Speaker 3: They are on their way.

638
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Speaker 2: The shots were six and seven last year three and

639
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Speaker 2: five in the belt A Myrtle Beach Bowl lost to UTSA.

640
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Speaker 2: They got their doors blown off forty four to fifteen

641
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Speaker 2: or seventeen to one to win the conference. Win total

642
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Speaker 2: is set right there at bowl eligibility at five and

643
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Speaker 2: half ten starters return seven on offense, only three on

644
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Speaker 2: D ninety six and returning production one hundred and twenty

645
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Speaker 2: fifth on the defensive side of the ball. But speaking

646
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Speaker 2: of defense, they bring in Jeremiah Johnson, who I think

647
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Speaker 2: was just a phenomenal DC higher. He performed miracles last

648
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: year at Louisianattech and despite a ton of new faces,

649
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: he has a lot of signees in the defensive backfield

650
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: to mix and match with. Situationally, he is a great

651
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: defensive play caller. He saw it on third downs and

652
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: in the red zone, and this is exactly where they

653
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: need to improve because you look at Coastal last year

654
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: third downs one hundred and fifth nationally red zone defense

655
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty fifth. So if he can do

656
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: anything close to what he did down in rustin last year,

657
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: I think he can coach this group up a little bit.

658
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: But the losses in terms of production and experience are

659
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: significant on that side of the ball. Offensively, they bring

660
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: back four starters and three or four staries depending on

661
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: how you look at it. But the backfield is new

662
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: and the new quarterback is going to be the question

663
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: through fall camp. Is it going to be MJ? Morris?

664
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Is it going to be Emmett Brown? Morris says yet

665
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: to put it all together in Brown, while undersize he

666
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: was cooking there for a little bit at San Jose,

667
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: then injuries a benching cuts his season short. He's still

668
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: threw for sixteen touchdowns to just five picks. How much

669
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: of that was thrown? It up to Nick Nash. That'll,

670
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: you know, play itself out here in fall camp. As

671
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: I mentioned Tad Hudson as well, also in from North Carolina,

672
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: he can't be ruled out of this three quarterback race

673
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: in Conway. So all this being put into a blender,

674
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: I look at it as Drew Holling said, his air

675
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: raid system. Who does it fit best. I'm leaning towards Brown,

676
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: but this win total to me, at five and a half,

677
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: I think is just about right. If I had to

678
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: play it, I think i'd lean to the under the

679
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: coordinator hires. I think could bear fruit maybe the second

680
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: half of this year or next season. But we'll see

681
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: if they take just too many lumps early on and

682
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: if that quarterback carousel ends up hurting their continuity and

683
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: the locker room. Colin, I'll kick it to you first.

684
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: What do you think about the shouts?

685
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Come on, gang, let's get wet, especially under South Carolina Moon,

686
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: last one, Angels, piffy.

687
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: I don't like Coastal Carolina, and I long for the Eye,

688
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: long for the Jamie Chadwell and the Grace and McCall days.

689
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: Those those were some good times. You know you kind

690
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: of what is that saying from the office, Andy Bernard?

691
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: You wish you were new in the good old days

692
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 3: when it was happening like it's done, like cut at

693
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: surf turf like this. I don't like this team whatsoever. MJ.

694
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: Morris transfers in from Maryland, but he's gonna get sixty

695
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: nine offensive Iden starts in front of him. That is

696
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: that's a positive. That's one of the best numbers in

697
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: the league. But you know, they switched concepts mid season

698
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: on offense because they didn't know what the hell they

699
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: were doing and they were ineffective. And right now it's

700
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: really kind of a question. Are they going to go

701
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: air raid with Morris, which I'm not really sure he

702
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: can run. Is Tad Hudson the transfer in from you

703
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: and c gonna run this offense? There are so many

704
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: question marks on the offense that it's not even worth

705
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: mentioning because there's even more on the defensive side of

706
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: the ball. The defensive line, the defensive backs are all

707
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: completely depleted, and then Jeremiah Johnson, who is amazing. Right

708
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: just because you have a great defensive coordinator, we'll talk

709
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: about Marshall later. Just because you have a great defensive

710
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: coordinator doesn't mean that you're gonna be hot on day one.

711
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: Because he has come out and said, we have got

712
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: to play base defense until we figure it out. Are

713
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: you shitting me? Like, we're not gonna blitz, We're not

714
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: gonna have stunts. We're we're gonna like simply just line

715
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: up and cover one, simply line up in a base

716
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: format and just see what we can do. Because he's

717
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: still trying to identify players. It's like that scene from

718
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 3: Major League where it's like, who's he? He's shitty, that

719
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: guy's dead. Like I mean, this roster on the business

720
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: side of the ball for Coastal Carolina is like a

721
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: hoo's who of nothing. I mean, they do the schedule wise,

722
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: they have a good bye week heading into ODU. I

723
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: have them favored in just two games by a field

724
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: goal or more. I'm under five and a half here,

725
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 3: I've got it in the app. I project this at

726
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: three point seven. Sometimes the numbers really I'm so far

727
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: off what everybody else is just eating through magazines and

728
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: talking heads and all that shit. I'm at three point seven.

729
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: I'm well blow five and a half. I don't think

730
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: that they're gonna get even more close. I think they've

731
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: got questions entering the season against Virginia. Maybe they figured

732
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: out against Charleston Southern. And even if you do figure

733
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: it out, I'm looking at a November schedule where you're

734
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: going on the road at Georgia Southern. It's gonna light

735
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: up your secondary. Hopefully you identify people by then. And

736
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: then you're gonna go to South Carolina where you're gonna

737
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: get put in a headlock and beat up rip whole COVID. Right,

738
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 3: So I don't like the schedule whatsoever. I don't think

739
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: there's a break for them anywhere to kind of catch

740
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: their breath. Even you come off a bye week and

741
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: you go to Old Dominion, that's not easy either. So

742
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: I am absolutely in the boat of the under here.

743
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it's too juiced out so far minus

744
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: one ten. I think it's one of the best opportunities

745
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: for an under here three point seven for the chance

746
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: here yep.

747
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: Then Maranne Beatt made Martle b South Carolina wuld be

748
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: the winner, small but lively.

749
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: I'm leaning under Collins pretty wishy washy. I didn't hear

750
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 2: a really definitive stance on coastal either way. How about

751
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: how about you break the tide for his duck? Is

752
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: this all negativity? Is there any way to look at

753
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: this as maybe something pops offensively just based on the

754
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: play caller, And if one of these quarterbacks pop, I

755
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: don't think I'm gonna put it on the record right now. MJ. Morris.

756
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm just confused why he's in this quarterback room. Like

757
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: we've seen enough of him at multiple P four stops.

758
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: He never put it together. At least I can look

759
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: at Brown and say, there's a three or four game

760
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: stretch where he was cooking. He was throwing at thirty

761
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: five forty times a game. He put things on film.

762
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: Do you see anything here offensively that could work, because

763
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: they absolutely need to have a top five or six

764
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: offense in the Belt to even sniff Bowl eligibility in

765
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: my opinion, Yeah, and I just don't see it.

766
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 5: I know they want to move quicker and they're going

767
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: to run some tempo air raid and I so it

768
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 5: leads me to believe that it's going to be Emmett

769
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 5: Brown who wins the job. But there's just too much

770
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 5: negativity that falls into what I would consider poor coaching.

771
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: This team performed very poorly un third down last season,

772
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 5: only converting thirty eight percent. They had way too many

773
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 5: empty red zone possessions. They were in the red zone

774
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 5: forty eight times nine empty possessions and settled for ten

775
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 5: red zone field goals, so they're not cashing in when

776
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 5: they get down inside the twenty. I think that the

777
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: offensive line could be okay, but we'll really have to

778
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 5: see some continuity in the receiver room. I just don't

779
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 5: see the offense taking the step to carry this squad overall.

780
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 5: I think when you're looking at the defensive coordinator hire

781
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: of Jeremia Johnson from Louisianattack, Obviously Louisiana Attack had an

782
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 5: exceptional defense. It took some time to build. I in

783
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 5: my notes was worried about if the pieces are going

784
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: to be there yet. And so you've got this defensive

785
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 5: coordinator who's able to scheme it up, and then you're

786
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 5: going to put the handcuffs on him and you're going

787
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: to tell them to run base while you're putting eleven

788
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 5: folding chairs out there on defense, and you're just kind

789
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 5: of gonna see what happens. I don't really see that

790
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 5: having a lot of success early, specifically against Virginia's offense.

791
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 5: East Carolina's up tempo air raid could struggle against South Alabama.

792
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: They got to go to Old Dominion early. And then

793
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 5: that colin you had mentioned that November schedule I think

794
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 5: is just absolutely brutal. Georgia, Southern and South Carolina on

795
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 5: the road, specifically USC on a back to pack and

796
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 5: then you conclude posting James Madison and my goodness, what

797
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: are they going to be playing for on that last

798
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 5: game of the season. It could be one of those

799
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: magical seasons for JMU, and certainly one they're showing up at.

800
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 5: And so there's just too many spots where I think

801
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 5: this team is up against it. Probably five roles they'll

802
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 5: play as significant underdogs, and you know, you got probably

803
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 5: four or five games that are considered coin flips. It's

804
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 5: just too much that they're up against this year, and

805
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 5: schedules a lot tougher in my opinion, So we'll see.

806
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 5: I don't think that they'll be absolute garbage, but a

807
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 5: Bowl game would be a lot of things going right

808
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 5: for Coastal Carolina this year. So yeah, I'd go I'd

809
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 5: go five and seven or four and eight more more

810
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 5: likely than not, from one former Eastern power that could

811
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: be struggling this fall to another. Let's talk about app State.

812
00:37:40,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: High upon the thoas going places working in smiling faces, brown.

813
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: Coaching change. They went five and six last year, three

814
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: and five in the Belts, fourteen to one to win

815
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: it this year. That's a hard pass for me. Win

816
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: total at five and a half five starts, returning only

817
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: one on offense, no quarterback, returning four on defense under

818
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: and eighth overall, and returning production one hundred and twentieth

819
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: in offensive production returning. As I mentioned, the arrow is

820
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: pointing down for me. Let me kick it right away

821
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: to you, Colin, talk to me about the coaching change

822
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: and what you're expecting in year one.

823
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: The arrow is pointing down. There is no arrows. It's bought.

824
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: We were hitting the floor here as a graduate of

825
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: the University of Arkansas, as a donor of the Razorback Foundation,

826
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: and as somebody who's tapped in a little bit. We

827
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: had no problem saying goodbye to Dowell Loguns when he left.

828
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: When he went to South Carolina. Oh, we lost our

829
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. Good. I think Petrino's on his way. Did

830
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: you hear anybody cry at South Carolina when he left?

831
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: Didn't hear that either, Because you know what his offense was.

832
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: Let's let Lenora Sellers just get into trouble and see

833
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: if he can just make shit happen. Do you know

834
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: what Kj's offense was? kJ Jefferson. Let's just let him

835
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: get into trouble and see if he can make shit happen. Well,

836
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: here we are, app state your power running Sean Clark,

837
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: Eli Drinkwitz. All that stuff that you've had for years,

838
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: it's gone because now you are. I want my quarterback

839
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: to get into trouble and let's just see if he

840
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: can make shit happen. And by the way, there's been

841
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: a big drop in quarterback play because now you're going

842
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: with aj Swan from Bandy. I mean, like had like

843
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: one or two breakout games, but this is not the

844
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: guy who's gonna be able to pull off Leonora Sellers

845
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: and a kJ Jefferson type offense when shit does break down.

846
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: And how about the massive JJ Cole six foot seven,

847
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: forty five pounds. I had a double check because I

848
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: saw the comp was Joe Flacco. I'm like, last time

849
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: I checked, Joe Flacco wasn't a creative player at Madden.

850
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: He's big, but he's not that big.

851
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, what's going on in Boon? We

852
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: got what we got some Bojangles and then now I

853
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: don't know what do we got to eat? What's the

854
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: eating there? I have to look it up. Guy loves

855
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: him some food playing quarterback that way, so you know,

856
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: by the way, so it doesn't matter who's playing quarterback,

857
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: because there's twenty two offensive line starts here on this team.

858
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: That is the lowest of anybody in the Sunbelt. So

859
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: that automatically screams problems for an offensive head coach who

860
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: just likes to not have really good design plays runs

861
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: o urpo and then things just don't work out.

862
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: You know.

863
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: He's as long as has always been more of a

864
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: recruiter more than he has been an ex as a

865
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: o's guy, and I expect that to play out here

866
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 3: because it's not really been the case. I mean, app

867
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: States just kind of always had a reputation which has

868
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: been the recruiting aspect of itself, and they've had good coaches.

869
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: That's going to get turned around. Potentially the worst defensive

870
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: line in the Sun Belt Conference, especially against the run.

871
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: Four of the top six tacklers are back, but none

872
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: of them are on the defensive line. They were one

873
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty ninth in defensive rushing success rate last season.

874
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: I just I don't see that changing either. Defensive corner

875
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: in Dj Smith, I just don't see him turned around.

876
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: They do have a great situation spot coming off a

877
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: bye against Poise State, but are they winning that game. No,

878
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 3: that game falls in between Air Force and Notre Dame,

879
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: so it is a good spot to take on Boise State.

880
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: I can see app covering, especially if it's a very

881
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: large spread. But even I have hesitations with this team

882
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: road trips to Old Dominion James Madison. Forget it, you're

883
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: not winning the division. You're not going to the Sun

884
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 3: Belt championship game. That's the toughest. This is the toughest

885
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: conference slate out there, especially with those two road games

886
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: against Old Dominion and James Madison. So I can't find

887
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 3: a way to bet them on the schedule. I can't

888
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: bet them in futures, but I can say under five

889
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: and a half now win total wise, I make it

890
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 3: five point two, so it's not really in the range.

891
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 3: When I get kind of out of the side of

892
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: a half win, I start fired. I start looking when

893
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm more than a win, like I was a coastal

894
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: I fire here. The mathematics says I should take the

895
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: under because it's just so much the right way. I

896
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: just haven't partaken in that yet, but I do like

897
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: the under, and I think app State is definitely the

898
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: arrows down. I think we're gonna find out what rock

899
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: bottom is boom.

900
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: The only good thing I can say, and I'll frame

901
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: it to you Duck in this way, is the schedule

902
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: isn't necessarily littered with big time quarterbacks. I mean, this

903
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: defense fell off a cliff last year in nearly every category.

904
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: The secondary was one of the least disruptive in the

905
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: entire country. But they're gonna face USM's Braxton. They got Maddox,

906
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Matts and Kojo Jalen Rainer. Outside of that, not necessarily

907
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: some aerial killers. I still like the under. I like

908
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: an alt under as well. I think if the juice is,

909
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, priced properly, But is that enough for you

910
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: to say there's quarterbacks who are gonna dink and duck

911
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: who are gonna throw underneath, maybe their greatest weakness isn't exposed.

912
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, maybe they play and muck

913
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: up a few games and steal one or two that

914
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: they shouldn't. What do you think, Douc.

915
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 6: Building our homes speaking the language of raelling.

916
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 5: That it's conceivable because they do play some descending programs

917
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: on their schedule, and some programs that are in transition,

918
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 5: name Charlotte Marshall Arkansas State Coastal and they get Georgia

919
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: State on the schedule, so they do get something.

920
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: The bottom feed, the powerhouse of the Lindenwood doc don't

921
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: forget that yep OVC powerhouse.

922
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 5: Linden Wood is a bad FCS program. So, I mean,

923
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 5: there is a theory that you could draw that there

924
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 5: are some wins on the schedule, But for me, I mean,

925
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 5: this system is just going to be atrocious when you're

926
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 5: banking on what they want to do offensively. With AJ

927
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 5: Swan and JJ Cole, I'm just not interested in either

928
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 5: one of those two guys leading the Helm offensively. What

929
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: was really concerning to me last season is that this

930
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 5: defense absolutely bottomed out. They were just so atrocious, giving

931
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 5: up six point five yards per play, forty five percent

932
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: on third down, couldn't get off the field, they were

933
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 5: terrible in their red zone defense, didn't create havoc. They

934
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: just really didn't do much to necessitate getting on a

935
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: roll and winning football games. And you could argue that

936
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 5: even in some of their wins they were fairly fortunate.

937
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: Their second order win total in their deserved win tricks

938
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 5: would have called for about a three and nine season

939
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 5: as opposed to what they did at five and seven,

940
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 5: five and six, So yeah, there's not a lot to

941
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: love here. I think they could get shredded once again

942
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 5: in the secondary. I'm not in love with what they

943
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 5: had in the portal with the defensive secondary, and there's

944
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 5: just way too many question marks. I think the job

945
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 5: right now would be to try to really recruit the

946
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 5: players to get in. This is gonna kind of be

947
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 5: a lost season for Appsty if they end up with

948
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 5: some marginal improvement. Yeah, I could see this team beating

949
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 5: some of the bottom feeders on their schedule four or

950
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: five wins, but to make a bowl game it would

951
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 5: be everything has to go right here. So yeah, i'd

952
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: lean under five and a half.

953
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Dream lee.

954
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: Vality get treated.

955
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: All right, Let's look quickly at Georgia State, because in

956
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: my notes it says Colin does not care and I'm

957
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: also on board there. George State Panthers three and nine

958
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: last year, one and seven in the Belt, thirty nine

959
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: to one to win the Belts. Your arrogance offends me

960
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: sportsbooks thirty nine to one. Like, give me two hundred

961
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: to one and maybe I'll be interested. Win total three

962
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: and a half, five starters, back three on offense to

963
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: a defense ninety ninth and returning production one hundred and

964
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: fifteenth in returning production on defense, Doc, I'm gonna let

965
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: you drive on this one and I'll tee you up

966
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: with this question. Has del McGee brought in enough talents

967
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: to be a pest in the belt? I think that's

968
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: my standard. Are they going to be pesky? Are they

969
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: going to be a team that's going to be in

970
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: some close fourth quarters in conference play? Because somehow they

971
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: beat Vanderbilt last year one of the most confusing box

972
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: scores of the entire season, and Texas State, so signs

973
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: of things to come? Or do you think those are

974
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: just absolute flukes that all.

975
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 5: Depends on the number week to week. If they're catching

976
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 5: enough points, I'll take a stab. But this Georgia State

977
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 5: team in priors has routinely done okay when kind of

978
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 5: punching above their weight class. They did it again last season.

979
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 5: They played Georgia Tech really competitively. They had three separate

980
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 5: possessions where they had first and goal inside the five

981
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 5: yard line and it with zero points in all three

982
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: separate possessions, so they definitely deserved a better result there.

983
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: They defeated Vanderbilt. They defeated Texas STATEUS twenty one point dogs,

984
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 5: and they had four close losses by seven points last season,

985
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 5: so there was a little reason for optimism. I would

986
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: say yes to your question. I mean, they did sign

987
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 5: the best recruiting class in the Sun Belt, including six

988
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: three star receivers and six three star alignemen in the trenches.

989
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: What I didn't like is that the portal was really

990
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 5: focused on the running back position and they really needed

991
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 5: to shore up other areas defensively, and so I was

992
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 5: not overtly excited about that. Although the running back additions

993
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: I thought were exquisite with Rashad Amos who we all

994
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 5: remember from Miami of Ohio, and also Jordan Simmons who

995
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 5: never really matured at Akron, but serviceable running back for sure.

996
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: What I'm concerned about is OC Hugh Jackson, who comes

997
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 5: in from the NFL, and I wonder if this is

998
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 5: more schematics or if it seems to be experimental, because

999
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: they're gonna be migrating away from the offensive system that

1000
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 5: we've come to know in love with Georgia State over

1001
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 5: the years, and they're gonna play very slow pace. They're

1002
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 5: gonna run some pro style. They're going to bring some

1003
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 5: tight ends in and I just don't know if that

1004
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 5: necessarily fits the skill set of quarterback Christian Vellu, who

1005
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 5: comes back several years in the program. I do think

1006
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 5: that they did add some influx of talent in the

1007
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 5: receiver room to help Ted Hurst, who was a pretty

1008
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: explosive receiver for them last year, and the offensive line

1009
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: could be okay. I think they're going to have to

1010
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 5: play very slow and try to possess the football because

1011
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 5: their defense was atrocious. Their defense was very, very bad

1012
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 5: against the run. Gave a five point two yards per carry,

1013
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 5: and eight times last season they surrendered over two hundred

1014
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 5: rushing yards in those games. So it's just gonna be

1015
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 5: a situation for me where you're gonna be able to

1016
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 5: run all over this team. Really concerned with some of

1017
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 5: the teams they play early in the schedule and how

1018
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 5: that's going to look. I think they did a really

1019
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 5: solid job and a surprising job last season securing defensive

1020
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 5: havoc and living in the backfield a little bit, But

1021
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 5: the book is still out on if they're going to

1022
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 5: be able to replicate that.

1023
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: Based on.

1024
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 5: What they have coming in in the front seven, could

1025
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 5: be okay in that regard, but the secondary is a

1026
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 5: full rebuild that's going to have to improve quickly because

1027
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 5: they could also just get torched on play action pass.

1028
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 5: It could be really, really a tough season defensively for

1029
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 5: Georgia State. The way the schedule lines up, I just

1030
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: see them starting one and four and it just kind

1031
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 5: of looks like another year where del McGee is going

1032
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: to have to try to rally the troops and they're

1033
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 5: not going to be in position to have a winning season.

1034
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: They're not going to make a bowl game. I see

1035
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 5: three or four wins on the schedule, so they could

1036
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: be some incremental improvement, but I think it's still another

1037
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 5: year out or so for the rebuild. I think the

1038
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 5: talent influx is positively trajectory, positive jectory for the influx

1039
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 5: of young talent that they have in but it will

1040
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 5: not come to fruition this year.

1041
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: So let me have one one say here on Georgia State,

1042
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 3: because I do have a deliverable, a betting deliverable. Everybody,

1043
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: get at your Microsoft Outlook calendars, get out your Apple calendars,

1044
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 3: whatever the hell it is you use to put down

1045
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 3: anything and go check out. Thursday, October twenty third. Yeah,

1046
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: I think Georgia State is on boat Race Watch. They

1047
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: have to go play Georgia Southern on Saturday the eighteenth,

1048
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: and then five days later hosts South Alabama. Now, sure,

1049
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: South Alabama's on five days rest, but they get to

1050
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 3: play Arkansas State the week before and they should have

1051
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: no problems. So you're telling me Georgia State is going

1052
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: to go on the road, get boat raced by Georgia

1053
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: Southern and JC French and those wide receivers, and then

1054
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 3: five days later they're going to host a South Alabama

1055
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: team in Major app white, which we're going to talk

1056
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: on the second half of this podcast. That I know,

1057
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: I project South Alabama like minus nine in that game.

1058
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: That is boat race game. If you see anybody release

1059
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: a Game of the year on that, that is such

1060
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: a horrible spot. Five days rest after Georgia Southern Race

1061
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: Watch Georgia State October twenty third.

1062
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's close out the East Tier with Marshall.

1063
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: They won the belt last year. They went ten and

1064
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: three seven and one in conference play twenty six to

1065
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: one this time around to win the conference. Win total

1066
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: down at four and a half. Only three starters return

1067
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: to an offense. One on defense one hundred and thirtieth

1068
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 2: in returning production. This team was gutted when they fumbled

1069
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: the Charles Huff situation. He got a better deal at

1070
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: Southern Miss after winning the belt. Takes a ton of

1071
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: his players, takes his staff, takes his star quarterback with him.

1072
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: Christian Spears, Marshall's former ad shame on you, so since ever.

1073
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: Shame on you.

1074
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Speaker 2: That's just shame on you. Just unbelievable. What's left is

1075
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: a year zero rebuild for Marshall. Tony Gibson coordinated some

1076
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: wonderful and unique three to three five defenses at NC

1077
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: State in time. I think he could make it work,

1078
00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: but they'll need to score some point.

1079
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: Well.

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00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: They get things to gel defensively this year, and I'm

1081
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: looking at Carlos del Rio Wilson, who was once a

1082
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: four star prospect years ago before hiding out at Florida

1083
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: and Syracuse. Zion Turner is a safety net in the

1084
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: quarterback room, is a dual threat option. I'm not blown

1085
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: away by him. I mean, we can run through the

1086
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: new Faces sixty two in all, they haven't played together

1087
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: full stop. They open with Georgia, so it's gonna be

1088
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: bug meet windshield, and we know how fast those Bulldogs

1089
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: like to drive. Colin, what are your thoughts? I mean,

1090
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: can you even be a contrarian when everyone's going to

1091
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: be down on them year zero? Maybe some huge inflated

1092
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: lines in September after they lose by seventy to the Bulldogs?

1093
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? Here? Is there any way to

1094
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: zig while everyone else egs?

1095
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: Shame on this entire administration? Like Doc Holiday takes your

1096
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 3: team to a Florida Bowl every year and brings back

1097
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 3: twenty recruits every year, stabilizes the program, and you're like, EHS,

1098
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: get Charles tough in here. Charles upp blesses you with

1099
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: one of the best G five defenses. When's the you

1100
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: guys screw that up too? Shame on you, Marshall thundering

1101
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: her because we're always pulling for you every year considering

1102
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 3: program history, and you're definite up, Quod definite.

1103
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: Up, same same same on.

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Speaker 3: All right, So you know Rod Smith is gonna come in.

1105
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: He's gonna bring the rich rod Jacksonville State offense, uh

1106
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: to an offensive line that has only about two dozen starts. Uh,

1107
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: that's gonna be trouble. Numerous running back transfer is coming in. Uh,

1108
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna be in the mix. Can't even tell you

1109
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: which one is going to be their quarterback. Zion Turner

1110
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: is coming in twenty twenty three ACS quarterback Carlos phil

1111
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 3: Rees a real Wilson which you mentioned, Uh, potentially the

1112
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: worst wide receiver unit and all of the sun Belt.

1113
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a little bit of a problem. So

1114
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 3: I don't know where the answers are gonna come from

1115
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball. And then the Gibson

1116
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: Nickel package that's coming in from NC State. Listen, we

1117
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: love it, We've bet on it over and over and over,

1118
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 3: but the talent on this roster doesn't necessarily dictate that

1119
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: it's going to meet the level of expectation that Gibson

1120
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: is going to have. And you know he's going to

1121
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: have to have a solid secondary. He does have some

1122
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: experience back there. But you have to have that incomplete

1123
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: Nickel package in that three three five, loaded with guys

1124
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: on the front defensive front three, they can hold up

1125
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: two offensive linemen, they can get some pressure off of

1126
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 3: three guys playing five in the back. And I'm just

1127
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: not sure it's gonna happen here. There are two layups

1128
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: in non conference after they play Georgia, Missouri State, Eastern Kentucky,

1129
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna get a chance to figure out what's your

1130
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 3: offense is. Back to back travel ull not good. Hosting

1131
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: Texas State not good. Potentially the two best teams in

1132
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: the West, potentially seven of the last eight games of

1133
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: the season. I see as spreads within a TD. So

1134
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: it's really hard for me to take an over five

1135
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: and a half. I make this game. I make them

1136
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 3: five and a half. The over is five and a

1137
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: half plus one forty, so by juice dictation, I should

1138
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: take the over here. The problem is, I think it's

1139
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: going to start off really bad against Georgia, and maybe

1140
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: they update the win totals out there in the market

1141
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 3: and you can get some because I've seen some books

1142
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: throw out win totals in the middle of the season.

1143
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: It's quite interesting. I think they get two weeks to

1144
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: figure it out in Week two and week three. After

1145
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: that a bunch of one possession spreads that are to

1146
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 3: come up for the rest of the season. So I

1147
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 3: don't know what the identity of this team is going

1148
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: to be going into the last three quarters of the schedule.

1149
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: After Game three, it could be a completely different team,

1150
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 3: which is why I've got a pass. Make it five

1151
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: and a half. I should be taking the over, but

1152
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: I just don't know what I'm getting until I get

1153
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: three games in pass for me Duck.

1154
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1155
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we've mentioned quite a bit here in

1156
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 5: my notes.

1157
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: Don't add a ton.

1158
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 5: As far as the personnel, I thought it was just

1159
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 5: shocking how they flubbed up the coaching situation with Charles

1160
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 5: Huff and was just stunning that they couldn't come to

1161
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 5: an agreement to retain him. The mass exodus of talent

1162
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 5: after he left was just stunning. Southern missileby the benefactor

1163
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 5: of that. The non conference I see them two and two,

1164
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 5: likely in non conference play. The home games in league

1165
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: play are really tough, though. You've got ODU, Texas State,

1166
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 5: James Madison, and Georgia Southern coming into your building, and

1167
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 5: so the winnables are on the road. But even so

1168
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 5: at Louisiana at Coastal Carolina for this group will be

1169
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 5: a challenge. You got to go to app State late November.

1170
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: It's just one where I just don't see the schedule

1171
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 5: conducive to them piling up the wins. I think that

1172
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 5: with the the just the turnover and the roster, there's

1173
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 5: so many new players. You've got new coordinators learning new schemes.

1174
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: There's just way too much transition for me to assume

1175
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 5: that it's going to click. I have them significant underdogs

1176
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 5: in quite a few games. I just don't see a

1177
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 5: bowl game this year. It would be stunning for me.

1178
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 5: If this team gets to six and six, I've got

1179
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 5: five or four wins as more likely than anything else.

1180
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 5: I went under five and a half. It was one

1181
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 5: of the first regular season win plays that I made

1182
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 5: earlier in the summer. So under five and a half.

1183
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: Here, last question for you, Doc, if you wanted to

1184
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: go really down on Marshall and you wanted to say

1185
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: this is going to be a year zero implosion, nothing works,

1186
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: they go too and ten. What price point would you

1187
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: need under two and a half on an alternate to

1188
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: be able to play just absolute worst case scenario.

1189
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 5: I'd play under two and a half at like plus

1190
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 5: five fifty or plus six hundred.

1191
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's fair. As we said, you know

1192
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: throughout the podcast, the later we get in the summer,

1193
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: the more these exotics and alternate markets open up. So

1194
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: just some food for thought for our audience. All right,

1195
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Speaker 2: that's it for the East. If you're listening right now

1196
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: and you want to hear the Sunbelt West, we've already

1197
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: done it somehow. You know, in this conversation we split

1198
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: our personalities. We threw it into the AI, into the cloud.

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Speaker 2: We were able to record two things at once. Go there,

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Speaker 2: listen to it right now. It's already finished. It's waiting

1201
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Speaker 2: for you. After that, we got the Mountain West coming

1202
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: up and Conference USA, and then the week after that's

1203
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,960
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