WEBVTT - How Online Dating Works 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:04.320 Welcome to you stuff you should know from house Stuff 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:12.720 Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.760 Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant and there's Jerry 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.920 over there. So it's stuff you shad know, that's right, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:26.040 the online Dating edition. Yeah. Uh, we are all in 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:30.360 committed relationships in this room, and so I doubt if 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.559 any of us have ever online dated. Probably right, I 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.200 have not. I have not, Jerry probably haven't. We're all 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:40.080 like long term monogamous. But I mean we're also good 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.080 at research too. It's not like there's I haven't been 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.200 to the Sun, but we did one on the Sun. Yeah, 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.080 that one's stunk. Yeah, that's a bad example. I do 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.120 have to say, though, if I were single, uh here 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.440 in this modern age, I would way way be into 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.440 online dating. Well, it's it's normal. Yeah, you know. I 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:03.240 was not um ever or skilled at wooing the ladies 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.960 um like out in bars or whatever, like I would 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.080 do find set up or like at a dinner party 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.959 or something. But this would have really benefited me back 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.600 in the day if it was like a legit thing 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.759 in the early nineties. Well, and there were some legit sites, 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.720 but it was more like remember the movie singles, like 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:26.720 the video profiles Great Expectations? Was that what it was called? Well, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.119 that's the in real in real life, there was something 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.560 like that called Great Expectations. Yeah, well, should we talk 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.320 about the history? Did you have a better intro than that? No? 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.520 I didn't, Okay, No, I just figured we'd go into 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.600 the history of it because it does have a surprisingly 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:45.800 long history. UM dating, I guess using computers, not necessarily online, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:50.080 because there wasn't such a thing as online. UM started 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.280 in the sixties with a guy named Jeff Tar who 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:57.600 was a mathematician at Harvard UM and he was interested 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.880 in the girls. He was a little bit of girl crazy, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.520 he said. He was so desperate to meet girls. And 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.800 I think with your a mathematician at Harvard, it's probably 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:10.920 not like, you know, bustling with hot chicks so prepared 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.280 to have your socks knocked off. Because the lady who 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.720 wrote this Slate article did a miscarriage of justice in 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:21.400 describing Jeff Tar and his operation. First of all, apparently 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.000 the computer that they used, the circuit board, spelled out 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:29.520 the words sex. Yeah, just for fun? Yes, okay, no, 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.160 because like that was the point? Well right, and he 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:37.200 was desperate to meet them because he was desperate to 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.320 like give as he could. Apparently this guy had no 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:46.560 problems whatsoever. Really, Yeah, you saw mathematician Harvard sixties and 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.200 you thought, hey, I read a contemporary article and another 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.880 one that UM written years later about this this thing. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.720 It was. It was a thing. It was called Operation 0:02:55.800 --> 0:03:00.519 Match that he's set up and UM basically, for three dollars, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.799 you submitted a questionnaire and Jeff tar fed your questionnaire 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.120 into a computer and you were guaranteed to get at 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:12.320 least five names of people who the computer decided were 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.440 a match based on your questionnaire answers. And they you know, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.720 he was doing it mostly in New England, for the 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.440 New England colleges. It was probably like back then, it 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.760 was probably names, addresses and how they like to be 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:28.600 touched pretty much, you know. Um. But they they got 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.800 a kind of a tepid response, and then somebody mentioned 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.000 it on like an interview on TV, and it took 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.800 off after that, and then a few months they had 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:42.280 a hundred thousand people in this database. And yeah, and 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.600 they were these were undergrad college students charging three bucks apiece. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:47.800 So in a few months they made like three hundred 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.760 thousand dollars coming up with the first computer dating service. 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.480 Whatso like? Ever did he go on to do anything great? 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:59.200 Oh he's a mathematician from Harvard, I'm assuming yes, Uh, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.080 well in the seventies, these great expectations is what you mentioned, 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.200 was founded by Jeffrey Ulman, and he's the one that 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.880 did the video presentations, like they made fun of in 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.760 the Singles movie, where you would just do your little 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.400 video profile and people would watch it and say, you know, 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.960 I like that girl. She's she plays guitar and look 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.280 she's drinking coffee, she likes dogs. Can you can you 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.120 imagine anything more clunky than getting like a videotape in 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.039 the mail of video profiles of people could imagine it? 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.200 It's not a sustainable system or making one man, especially 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.080 in the day when you had to you know, it 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.719 would take me like two weeks to do a video thing. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.760 And that's with modern computer editing, right or yeah or 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:44.320 yeah editor who like had to put those things together? Yeah. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:45.920 Well in Singles it was Tim Burton. He had a 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:50.359 little cameo as the director of her dating video. Have 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:55.240 you seen Singles recently? No? Wow, it really made quite 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.960 impression it's I was about to say it's one of 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.479 my favorite movies, but it's not on my top one 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.240 h and movieless. Oh, I might have forgotten that one 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.479 great movie you're gonna have to do a hundred and 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.920 one perhaps, so uh. I like this this story about 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.480 Jeffrey Allman who found in Great Expectations. He was apparently 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:18.800 on Montell Williams Show, and Montell Williams he was basically saying, like, 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.640 doesn't your service just prey on lonely people? And Alman 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.320 said yes, just like restaurants prey on the hungry, and 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.839 doctors prey on the sick, and talk show hosts prey 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.679 on the people who are too bored to read a book. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.440 I love that guy, I know, and I remember. I'm 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.880 old enough to where I remember these early services and 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.200 it being like an embarrassment, Like, God, what, what a 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.919 desperate person? So here's the sign up for something like this. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.880 I wrote an article that made that point that there's 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.799 still that stigma surrounding online dating. No, it's a certain 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.159 percentage of people pulled still feel that way for sure. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.680 I think people who are maybe involved in online dating 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.680 themselves desperate for online dating. And this author was putting 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:06.479 this this assertion out there that just the very structure 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:11.920 of online dating, the privacy settings, the um, the just 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.600 general embarrassment surrounding it, just the way it's set up, 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:20.000 it's treated like it's an embarrassing thing. And as long 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.559 as it's treated like it's an embarrassing thing, it's never 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.800 going to become real dating. It's going to become some 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.000 hybrid of it where only sad people or the desperate 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.760 and or people who just want to hook up, or 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.120 the dregs of humanity that's where they go. It will 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:40.320 never be the de facto method of dating as long 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.200 as it's structured as an embarrassing thing. Do you think 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.719 it's still structured that way? Well, yeah, I think it is. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.880 I think like the privacy settings are in part for 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.080 you know, protection and to keep creeps at bay, but 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.640 I think it's also so that like the average person 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:01.000 can't see that you're trying online dating. Even still today, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.520 I guess I see that. I think there's nothing to 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.880 be ashamed of too. I agree entirely very efficient way 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.760 to meet a like minded person. You know, I would 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.880 be way into it. I think maybe like in five 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.400 years that will be a moot point because so many 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.480 other people will be using it. Yeah, because apparently it 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.200 started to wane in two thou well that was more 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.040 to do with the economy, I think, Oh yeah, yeah. 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.400 They did a study from UH like over a ten 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.160 year period and it definitely waned in the mid two thousand's, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:34.880 But now it's booming again. UM dating services report earnings 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:40.280 of two billion dollars and uh they said that they're 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.840 growing at a rate of three point one percent per 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:48.480 year now. But it did when disposable income was in 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.160 shorter supply. That was definitely one of the first things 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.480 to go. And yes, and I said, but I saw 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.480 and now it's it's back. But I think in addition 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:02.800 to that economic hitch upward, there was an attendant acceptance 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:07.040 social acceptance of it as well that accounted for a 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.360 growth in it. Between two thousand five and two thousand 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.760 and thirteen, the number of Americans who said that they 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.440 know somebody who online dated like doubled from like to 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.760 thirty percent of Americans, and like of all Americans use 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.720 or have used online dating services. So it is definitely 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.760 becoming more and more widespread. But again I do think 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:35.520 that there is still just some tinge of whatever it's that. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.360 It is like some people might be a little reticent 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.559 to say that in mixed company. Yeah, which is weird 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:46.080 because it's like you if you're people aren't ashamed of 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.120 dating or not dating. It's just adding that online to 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.720 it changes everything for some reason. Yeah. And of course 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.479 with the advent of smartphones and apps and GPS locators, 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.480 that has helped a lot to to increase news. You know. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.959 So thanks to the the technical revolution that was the 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:09.080 advent of the Internet. In a little site called match 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.240 dot com came about, which is interesting because that was 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.200 the first online dating service and match was the name 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.520 of that one from the from Harvard in the sixth 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.839 Notice that I wondered if he got any juice out 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.920 of that. Probably not. Probably not, um, and the Harvard 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:29.040 mathematicians he's doing all right, Um, we assume yes. And 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.880 then a couple of years later another one that's still 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.960 around and very prominent, Ja Date, was created, Yeah, for 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.800 the Jewish community. Yeah. And then um the original version 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:43.840 of Facebook was called face match, and it was basically 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.840 a an online version of this way to check people 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.680 out basically right exactly now, Chuck, like you said, like 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.800 there's there's sites all over the place, there's apps, there's 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.640 it's just becoming more and more prevalent. Yeah, I made 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:58.840 a list. If we can go ahead and get to 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.000 this with my twenty favorite niche because you can go 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:06.240 to the gentlemans like e Harmony or match or you know, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.959 the big the big daddies, or if you're really specific, 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.080 you can go to uh A likewise for fellow book lovers. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:21.359 Farmers only. City folks just don't get it exactly. Uh 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.560 There's one called how about we dot dot dot, which 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.679 is basically, instead of some huge profile that you have 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.320 to set up, it's very very short and casual, like 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.679 how about we go eat at a great restaurant tonight 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.000 and someone can just respond to meet you. If you're 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.120 an IVY leaguer, you might go to ivy Date. That's 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:42.199 a site Equestrian Singles dot com. I'm sorry, that's an 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:46.000 obnoxious dating site. Oh, totally obnoxious equestrian singles. If you're 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.560 into horses. There's one called cupid Tino dot com for 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.440 fans of Apple products because they found the Apple people 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.319 tend to be alike. Veggie Date Um if you're vegetarian, 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.440 must look pets our Time is just one of many 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.120 for people over fifty, which is kind of cool to 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:07.400 see Geek to geek. There's obviously political ones Republican meet 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:12.079 and Democratic Republican people meet and Democratic people meet. I 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.160 don't know if there's a Tea party people meet or not. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:22.160 I would guess Trek Passions. Yes, they're like the Hike. Nope. Man, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.160 My Lovely Parent is for single parents. Uh, Sea Captain Date. 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.400 I think my favorite one. That's for real. Yeah, it's 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.280 just for people looking for their first mate. That's awesome. Uh, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.400 find your face Mate. That's for people who think that 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.719 want to find people that look like them. It's a 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:44.400 little creepy. Wealthy men dot Com Stash passion if you're 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:50.000 in the mustaches, not like drugs on you. Personals for 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:55.080 cat lovers, waiting till marriage for the virgins among us. Yeah. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.200 I found one that was um that was founded by 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.440 a woman who had had cervical cancer. Are Oh that's nice? 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.400 Who um founded a site for people who are incapable 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.080 of having sex but still want to find love and 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.920 apparently it's gotten a pretty great response. That's awesome. And 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.480 the last one was Tall Friends that I thought was 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.560 kind of interesting. Like they're just tall. You're just into 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.160 tall people, or I guess you're I've heard of that 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.400 from a lot of tall people, especially tall women. Oh yeah, 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.960 who don't like dating short guys and have a hard time, 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.880 you know, finding dudes that are six three. You go 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.840 to tall friends friends. I saw another one called the gaggle. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.640 Have you heard about that? Yeah? That that one's interesting. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.920 It's for um. It's basically so for a woman to 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:45.120 date all of the various um prized parts of an 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.400 individual's personality, but broken out and distributed among a whole 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.480 group of men. Like I want to date an athlete, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.640 so I'll go on a date with this guy. I 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.360 want to like a brainy guy too, so I'll go 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.280 on a different date with a brainy guy, right, and 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.520 so on and so on a tall dude. Yeah, and 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.640 then the woman, but she's dating all these dudes at once. Yea, 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.720 hence the gaggle, A gaggle of dudes. Yeah we're powered 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.920 to you, I guess. And yeah, and then of course 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.280 the kids, as weird as your imagination can get weirder 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.960 than farmers only, Oh yeah, our trek passions way weirder 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:22.280 or sea captain date even weirder. All right. Yeah, um, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.120 so that's some pretty good stuff. Chuck. Thanks, that was 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.360 some good digging. Well those are, you know, like you said, 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.160 one of many, many many. Um. But we're gonna be 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:36.640 talking about sort of the basic online standard online dating scenario, 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:42.720 and we're going to talk about that right after this message. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:48.160 All right, so welcome back to online dating. Um. I 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.720 guess we should just walk someone through this process. Yeah, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.679 step by step. Yeah, so the first thing you're gonna 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.040 want to do, there's there's different kinds of sites. They're 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.360 typically broken out into two categories. See aptains tall people. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.040 Uh no, I can't. Uh, it's um free sites and 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:10.240 pay sites. No, that was serious that last one. No, no, no, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.839 I was still laughing at Okay, that's good. So you've 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.520 got your freesighting at your pay sites and both of them. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.280 It depends on the site. But for the most part, uh, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.600 if you are thinking of creating a profile, you will 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.680 be able to go on to just about any dating 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.120 site and give a very minimal amount of information and 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.120 start browsing. Yeah, because they want you to check out 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.600 the site and get the hooks into you, and they 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.160 don't necessarily say you gotta pay right away, or you 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.880 gotta give us all this information. Just browse around the 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.560 shop see if you like anything. Right, So, um, you're 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.160 gonna give a little information like whether you're a man 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.800 or a woman, or whether you're seeking a man or 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.960 a woman. Maybe the year you're born, and then maybe 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.800 your zip code. Yeah, you're not gonna get full profiles 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.480 if you're browsing, no, unless you may not get pictures either. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.080 It depends. So if it's a free site, you may 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.160 feel true. If it's a pay site, and we'll talk 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.120 about the pros and the cons in a minute of each. Um. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.120 If it's a pay site, you might be able to 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.640 see yeah profile without pictures, or you might be able 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.120 to see you know, both, but you won't. You can't 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.280 contact anybody unless you pay. Um. But for the most 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.800 part when you're when you're going online, you can check 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:21.520 the people out, um with just a just a tiny 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.320 bit of information. Yea. Once you join, though, you're gonna 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.320 have to start building a profile, and it kind of 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.320 starts out easy and broad and then as you go 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.640 through the creating the profile, I mean it takes a minute. Yeah, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.360 And um, I guess we should point out to that 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.760 you're gonna have to input some kind of email address. Um, 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.760 it's up to you if you want to create an 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.840 email address for free, just for online dating. If you're 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.600 really like super freaked out about privacy, might not be 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.200 a bad idea. But most of these um, you're not 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.720 allowed to be emailed directly at first. It's either anonymous 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.400 through the site or the site has their own messaging system. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.800 So it's pretty safe these days as far as protecting 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.400 your privacy. You shouldn't get too freaked out, right, It's 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.160 not like this nineteen seventies where there wasn't even not 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:13.040 great expectations. Oh yeah, where it's like this is my 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:18.840 address in the background exactly. Uh, you wanna your next step? 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.680 There is probably writing down some physical attributes about yourself, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.880 because as much as people like a good personality in 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.880 a sense of humor, um, a lot of people are 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.760 probably looking for something specific or maybe just general physically. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.800 So you've got height, weight, hair color, eye color, um, 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.080 body type, Yeah, whether you have tattoos or pierce things, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.280 that kind of thing. Um. And then it gets a 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.600 little more involved in all of this is you're just 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:52.000 clicking bubbles or selecting from dropped down menus um, but 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.400 it gets a little a little more granular, like what 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.200 are your interests? And these aren't people snooping. You're doing 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:02.520 this for yourself to have a more complete profile. If 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.000 you're in there going well, what do they want to know? 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.040 What kind of movies I like? Then you you don't 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.920 get online dating, you know, Yeah, but maybe you should 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:15.359 go to like suspicious Minds or Suspicious Hearts online dating service. There, Mike, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.000 you don't give out any personal information because yeah, or 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.560 the drop down and he says I like this, this, 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.680 that or none of your business and everyone just picked 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.720 none of your business. So your interests and activities? You 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.640 play guitar? Do you play sports? So you into reading? Um, 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.359 there's your favorite filmmaker? What do you like to do 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.480 on the weekends? All that kind of stuff will give 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.359 you a good give someone else a good idea of 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.840 kind of what you're like. Yeah, um, your income level, Yeah, 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.520 whether you have pets, how you feel about having pets, um, 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.840 if you live with your parents. These are all things 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.120 you can lie about. Well that's the thing, like, yeah, 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.639 it's it's I read somewhere that one in ten profiles 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:59.959 online or made up. Yeah. In fact, Okay, Cupe. It's 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.200 as the top four things people lie about most are height, income, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.560 their photo, and their sexuality, which I thought was weird. Yeah, 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.240 that's weird. I didn't get that one. You're not doing 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.479 yourself any favors if you're lying about your sexuality out 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:18.080 of the gate. No, and supposedly also chock of people 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.000 who submitted to a poll about online dating said that 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.639 they had met somebody, met up with somebody in life. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:30.359 Um who quote seriously misrepresented themselves in their dating profile. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.679 Well we must just like, yeah, we should go and 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.560 talk about that. With your photo, you want to represent 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:39.240 yourself well, obviously, but you want to be accurate because again, 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:40.960 you're not going to do yourself any favors. You're not 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.359 gonna get a second date if you show up looking 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.680 like the hunchback of Notre Dame and you put a 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.840 picture of Tom Selick up there. Hey, hunchbacks need love 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:55.119 to and that's that's why there's hunchback mate dot com. Like, really, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.000 we could just sit here all day and come up 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:05.280 with like feasible uh naymes for goiterer touch. I think 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.520 Jerry's grossed out. Did you you know? Goider's right. It's 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:13.200 from hyper hypothyroidism, which is the result of an iodine deficiency. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:18.720 That's why there's iodie salt to prevent goiders hunt my grandmother. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:25.320 That apparently also um, the the most preventable form of 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:30.359 mental retardation is treated with iodine or it results from 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.800 an iodine deficiency, which is the main reason why they 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.200 started adding that to salt, supposedly, And they think there's 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:43.280 this thing called the Flynn effect where inexplicably the intelligence 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.480 as matt by i Q over the twentieth century rose 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.520 like three points across the board in the West, and 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.760 they think it's possible that it's from iodiae salt. Oh, 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.960 we actually talked about that that podcast a couple of 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.280 weeks ago, did we really? I'm just very fast NATed 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.359 by that, apparently so fascinated that knocks out all memories 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:05.080 of speaking about it. But do you put that in 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:09.359 an online dating profile and just watch your your computer 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.879 light up? What do you think I talk about? For you? Me? 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.280 Drives are crazy? She's like, tell me about I saw 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:19.560 for the eight time. She loves that stuff. Um, all right, 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.119 so where are we here? Oh, you're gonna list all 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.360 these things You're gonna fill out your profile and then 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:28.439 you're gonna do that again, but under the notion of 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.639 what you're looking for in someone else, like what your 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.840 ideal mate do and look like, and then they're trying 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.160 to match you. Yeah, the computer takes this stuff, choose 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.120 it up like carrots and apples, and poops out some 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:48.600 some matches. True. Is that true? Because I think it's 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.719 made up frankly, now we'll get to the science of it. 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.360 So you call it that you mentioned your photo. Did 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.760 we say, don't put any personal information on there? No, 0:20:57.960 --> 0:20:59.840 that seems like a no brainer. They won't ask for 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.240 that stuff. But there are times where you can write 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.240 things about yourself. So don't feel free to say this 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.160 is where I live and this is my Social Security number? Right, 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.920 or this is where I work? Yea, which is one 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.240 that I I mean I could see overlooking that. Yeah, 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.280 that seems certainly, you know, like I work at Discovery Channel. 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:19.680 It's something like that. Yeah, where oh in d C 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.560 Oh cool, I'll be right there. Which floor I want 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:25.920 to show you how I can hold a knife in 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.640 my teeth. You're gonna love it. That'd be Pirates Love 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:35.080 dot Com. Uh No, that's Sea Captain. That's a sub 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.359 branch of that one, right, yeah, probably so. Alright, so 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.320 you mentioned free versus subscription. They both have their pluses 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.679 and minuses. Free is good because it's free and we 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.720 like that, Yes, but so do twelve year old boys. Exactly? 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:52.960 Who poses other people? Yeah, exactly. That is one of 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.439 the problems with free websites like this is that you 0:21:55.480 --> 0:22:00.560 will get impostors. Uh that just jokes, ads, scam scams. 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:04.800 There's like a whole Nigerian prince scam that's going on. Um. Actually, 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.719 apparently there's something you can do. Uh, if you see 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.000 a photo of somebody that you're interested in, you can 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.320 put it to the test. Yeah, you can drag and 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.560 copy it on your desktop and then dragon drop it 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.479 on Google image search. You know you can search by image. 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:23.080 Does it reverse look up? Huh? It looks up that 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.119 image and it will show you all this stuff and 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:27.480 it may say this is a scam. This is if 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.680 that same picture shows up all over the place under 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.760 different names of an alisis whatever, that's a scamp. What 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.080 if what if you would if I did that to 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.320 your picture, would have said this is Josh Clark. Uh. Yeah, 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:45.320 probably it's a pretty pretty smart computer. They got there. Yeah. Yeah, 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:49.159 that's pretty creepy though, But I guess that's good. Like 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.560 it's creepy on one hand, to be able to find 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.920 out who someone is from a photo. Oh no, no, no, 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.879 no, no no, not like that. Sorry, no. If it if 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.480 if it were like on a dating site and it 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.080 was just supposed to be somebody's photo, gotcha. If it 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:05.280 came up as like, yeah, here's this photo that you found, 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.199 here's the place that you found it, and here it 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.879 is on these eighteen other profiles with eighteen other names, 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.960