WEBVTT - Episode 3: The Great Siege

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<v Speaker 1>Malta is not a real democracy. People in general do

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<v Speaker 1>not understand what democracy is, but think it is a

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<v Speaker 1>vote in a general election or a referendum. They fail

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that for democracy to exist, freedom of expression

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<v Speaker 1>must come first.

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<v Speaker 2>A warm October evening in the letter History written in Stone,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only a few days after Daphne's murder by car bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>Night is falling, and amongst the palaces and churches, the tourists, bars,

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<v Speaker 2>buskers and ice cream vendors, some exchange is happening.

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<v Speaker 3>A crowd is gathering, hundreds, then thousands of people from

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<v Speaker 3>across our country, spontaneously drawn to mark their sorrow at

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<v Speaker 3>what has happened in the last week, young old city

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<v Speaker 3>dwellers and people from the villages. Many carry flowers or candles.

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<v Speaker 3>Some sing as they walk, most are silent, all united

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<v Speaker 3>by their shock at what has happened, also united by

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<v Speaker 3>anger at the forces that persecuted Daphne and ultimately many

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<v Speaker 3>believe killed her. From iHeart Podcasts, Topic Studios and Vespucci,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Manuel Delilla and this is Crooks Everywhere, Episode three,

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<v Speaker 3>The Great Siege, Spontaneous demonstrations are in something that Multa

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<v Speaker 3>really does Normally we only come out onto the streets

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<v Speaker 3>to celebrate a football win, or the night of a

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<v Speaker 3>major election, or a religious festival. But huge protests like

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<v Speaker 3>this for Dafne are a signal that the era of

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<v Speaker 3>quiet public acceptance is now over, maybe forever. And the

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<v Speaker 3>place where disgrieving, angry crowd is marching to is not

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<v Speaker 3>just any piazza in Valletta. The monumental, assidual guir or

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<v Speaker 3>great siege monument is our Lincoln Memorial, our Travalgar Square,

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<v Speaker 3>the symbolic heart of the capital. It commemorates the Great

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<v Speaker 3>Siege of fifteen sixty five, when the Ottoman Empire tried

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<v Speaker 3>and failed to conquer this land, a marker of the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest crisis that Mota faes in the last five hundred years,

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<v Speaker 3>a time when forces of destruction threatened and were resisted.

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<v Speaker 2>As the crowd reaches the statues, they throng around, circling them,

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<v Speaker 2>filling the space. People begin laying candles on the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>the flickering light from so many candles illuminating the foundations

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<v Speaker 2>of the old stone. People bring photos of Daphne and

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<v Speaker 2>lay them down to other Scribbled personal notes of remembrance

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<v Speaker 2>on cards and tape them to the monument.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm here too with my friends and family, amazed

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<v Speaker 3>at how many people have turned out today. By reclaiming

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<v Speaker 3>this holy space and making it our space, Deafhne's space,

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<v Speaker 3>we are hoping to show that a new siege has begun,

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<v Speaker 3>that we are once again under threat as a nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Protests like this are the first signs that Deafney will

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<v Speaker 3>be even more influential after her murder than she had

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<v Speaker 3>been before it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when you first heard that Daphne had

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<v Speaker 2>been murdered? Manwhell I do?

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<v Speaker 3>And of course the first reaction is incredulity, disbelief. But

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<v Speaker 3>after the horror began to sink in and I realized

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<v Speaker 3>that it must be true, there was another realization. I

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<v Speaker 3>knew that this would be a turning point for the

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<v Speaker 3>whole country, and very possibly a turning point away from democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in London at the offices of BBC's Newsnight,

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<v Speaker 2>where I was working at the time. When the news broke.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a kind of silence in the office, a

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<v Speaker 2>sense that the life of a great reporter had been

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<v Speaker 2>snuffed out. And then the editor of the day says,

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<v Speaker 2>get yourself to Malta now and I move, but I

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<v Speaker 2>felt a sense of foreboding. I'm used to going to

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<v Speaker 2>bad places, but a journalist being blown up in Malta

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<v Speaker 2>it's where people go on holiday, for heaven's sake. I

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<v Speaker 2>spent many years reporting on Vladimir Putin's Russia, and for

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<v Speaker 2>me that seemed like the nearest comparison in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the shamelessness of the crime, And just like a Kremlin killing,

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<v Speaker 2>it was both a murder, the wiping out of an

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<v Speaker 2>opponent and a warning to others. Using a car bomb

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<v Speaker 2>in broad daylight on a public road to silence a

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<v Speaker 2>reporter is a statement. It's a declaration of power. We

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<v Speaker 2>can get away with anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I had time to think. That's how it felt for

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<v Speaker 3>me too, But this was in Moscow or Saint Petersburg.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a democratic EU country. I, like many other people,

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<v Speaker 4>still remember where I was and what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 4>No matter how much time passes, you do remember.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Jason ot So Party, a lawyer and former

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<v Speaker 3>politician and an important player on what happens after Daphanie's death.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a former MP for Molta's main opposition party,

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<v Speaker 3>the Nationalists, and also one of Daphanie's most famous allies

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<v Speaker 3>inside Parliament, known as a big campaigner against the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Corruption picture a multi's version of the actor Stanley Tucci.

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<v Speaker 2>Heavily framed, glasses, bald head with an intense, subsessive interest

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<v Speaker 2>in corruption and might call a crime. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>why Jason makes a good lawyer. He has a necessary

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<v Speaker 2>forensic memory for detail and the details of the day

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<v Speaker 2>Daphney died, as something he has no difficulty recalling.

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<v Speaker 4>So about five and that's passed. Three in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 4>I started getting a floody of phone calls and I

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<v Speaker 4>remember the first one was a police officer. His voice

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<v Speaker 4>was crackling with emotion and he was crying and he

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<v Speaker 4>was telling me in bits and pieces they've killed her,

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<v Speaker 4>They've killed her, murdered. Whilst I was on this call,

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, I had a number of other

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<v Speaker 4>people trying to get through to me. I was shaking,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember, vividly shaking. It was a mixture of anger

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<v Speaker 4>and fear.

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<v Speaker 3>And later that day, as the full scope of the

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<v Speaker 3>crime became clear, another phone call came through from Daphney's husband, Peter, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Just imagine the husband of Deafney calling me on my

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<v Speaker 4>mobile at the same time. You know what's happening all

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<v Speaker 4>around you, and I froze. I admit I froze. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know what to say. I simply stammered. Bottom line,

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<v Speaker 4>Peter asked me if I could represent the family represent legally.

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<v Speaker 3>Already, within hours of her death, Peter and her sons

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<v Speaker 3>were aware of the unequal battle they would be fighting

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<v Speaker 3>to get justice. As we know, definitely had powerful enemies,

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<v Speaker 3>and even those not directly involved in her death had

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<v Speaker 3>incentives to assist in raising her legacy. In other words,

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<v Speaker 3>Peter already fears the official channels won't deliver justice.

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<v Speaker 4>Peter told me, Jason, we do not trust the due

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<v Speaker 4>to the magistrate to contact an impartial, independent, objective, unbiased inquiry,

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<v Speaker 4>and the very first few minutes hours are pretty critical

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<v Speaker 4>in such a crime.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's wrong with the duty magistrate In Malta?

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<v Speaker 3>The magistrate is crucial of a murder is to be

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<v Speaker 3>correctly and professionally investigated. In the multi system, there is

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<v Speaker 3>always a magistrate on duty, a senior legal official whose

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<v Speaker 3>job it is to take charge of and preserve evidence

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<v Speaker 3>when a serious crime is committed. It's a matter of

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<v Speaker 3>timing that determines which magistrate will be assigned to which case.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely had written about a lot of Malta's judges and

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<v Speaker 3>lawyers during her career, and that day's magistrate, Consuelorea, had

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<v Speaker 3>come up a lot in defnine work, and as usual,

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<v Speaker 3>it was strongly.

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<v Speaker 1>Opinionated April thirteenth, twenty ten the silly life and shallow

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<v Speaker 1>values of Consuelo Hera October eighteenth, twenty ten. It's official

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<v Speaker 1>magistrate Herera is not to be trusted in a twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven, giving Consuelo Herrera and her Keystone cops a

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<v Speaker 1>run for their money.

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<v Speaker 3>Not very diplomatic, and those are some of the more

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<v Speaker 3>polite things that Definitely wrote about the magist.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, Consul Herrera had already sued Daphnely for libel,

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<v Speaker 3>although she ultimately withdrew the claim. But on the day

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<v Speaker 3>that Daphne died, it was Consuelo Herrera who was assigned

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<v Speaker 3>to secure the murder scene, appoint court experts, and take

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<v Speaker 3>charge of the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is Jason as the party's first task. From

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Carouina, Galicia and Daphne's sons get Magistrate Cherry Herrera

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<v Speaker 2>of the case. Before any legs go cold, and while

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<v Speaker 2>the evidence is still there to be gathered, get her

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<v Speaker 2>off the case, whatever it takes.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, round about eight o'clock, half past eight

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<v Speaker 4>in the evening. I meet them in the lobby and

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<v Speaker 4>the entrance.

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<v Speaker 3>The very same evening as Daphnie's murder. The magistrate summons

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<v Speaker 3>the family to the courthouse. The fight to have the

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<v Speaker 3>magistrate replaced has already begun.

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<v Speaker 4>One has to remember that the law courts at that

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<v Speaker 4>moment were practically deserted, completely dark, because of course it's

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<v Speaker 4>after office hours, so it's completely surreal, silent and aching

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<v Speaker 4>to a symmetry.

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<v Speaker 3>At this after hours meeting at the law courts are

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<v Speaker 3>Jason as party and from the family Daphne's sister Colin,

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<v Speaker 3>Daphne's husband Peter, and Matthew, Dafnie's eldest son, the son

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<v Speaker 3>who was the first on the scene when Defne was killed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still just hours since Daphanie's murder. Even to get

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<v Speaker 3>to the courthouse, the family had to drive right past

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<v Speaker 3>the bomb site near their house.

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<v Speaker 4>And again I must admit I didn't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 4>I see these two gentlemen in front of me. One

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<v Speaker 4>has just seen five hours before his mother being butchered

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<v Speaker 4>in front of his eyes, and so I hugged Peter

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<v Speaker 4>and Matthew couldn't utter a word, but I do remember

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<v Speaker 4>saying to myself feeling a sense of sincere big admiration,

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<v Speaker 4>And they were there, standing upright, very stoic, loucid.

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<v Speaker 3>The magistrate's office is open out of hours because of

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<v Speaker 3>Daphnie's death. As they wait to be called, they can

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<v Speaker 3>see senior government officials and politicians being called in for

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<v Speaker 3>meetings with the magistrate, but Daphne's closest relatives, they are

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<v Speaker 3>made to wait in the lobby.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as they wait, yet a number of Daphane's

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<v Speaker 2>old enemies arrives.

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<v Speaker 4>And at one point we see the then Economy Minister

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Cardona entering the law courts because he had been

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<v Speaker 4>summoned to testify by the inquiring magistrate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fair to say that Jason at Soparadi is not

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<v Speaker 3>a fan of mister Cardona.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Cardona sleazy character well known in criminal circus.

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<v Speaker 3>Daphne's investigations into Cardona's conduct are famous across the island,

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<v Speaker 3>and her stories about him have already damaged his future

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<v Speaker 3>as a major player in multice politics at this point,

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<v Speaker 3>Cardona is one of the many people who was suing

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<v Speaker 3>Deafne for libel.

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<v Speaker 4>He was pacing up and down the corridor. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>it vividly. He was very, very nervous, very nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the story behind the story here? Why is a

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<v Speaker 2>cabinet minister present at a murder inquiry and why is

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<v Speaker 2>he so nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>Earlier that evening, Cardona had been officially as summoned by

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<v Speaker 3>the authorities investigating Daphne's murder. He was not arrested and

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<v Speaker 3>left soon after. He has since said in an interview

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<v Speaker 3>with the Times of Malta that given his hit history

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<v Speaker 3>of clashes with Daphne, it was common sense to call

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<v Speaker 3>him in. Chris Cardona did not respond to requests for

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<v Speaker 3>an interview for this podcast, and he has consistently denied

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<v Speaker 3>being involved in Daphne's murder in any way. But on

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<v Speaker 3>this night in twenty seventeen, Jason Natza, party and Daphne's

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<v Speaker 3>family were still focused on trying to see if a

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<v Speaker 3>different magistrate could be chosen.

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<v Speaker 4>We waited until close to eleven pm. By that time

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<v Speaker 4>there had been no core degree and I was starting

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<v Speaker 4>to become extremely angry because there were two people who,

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<v Speaker 4>instead of mourning their loved one who had been assassinated

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<v Speaker 4>some hours before, they were there all alone in the

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<v Speaker 4>dark entrance, silent, complete silence of the law cords. So

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<v Speaker 4>I knocked on the door of the sitting magistrate, of

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<v Speaker 4>the duty magistrate, and thusked her deputy registrar, if she

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<v Speaker 4>could kindly be so kind as to us, the inquiring magistrate,

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<v Speaker 4>to have some mercy and the decency for these two

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<v Speaker 4>gentlemen to be allowed to go home. She came back

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<v Speaker 4>to me and told me that we could leave and

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<v Speaker 4>the decision would be delivered on the following day.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is this so important to Jason as a

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<v Speaker 2>party and Dafnie's family.

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<v Speaker 3>From uther party's viewpoint, it sets the tone. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>the magistrate is telling the family, come to us while

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<v Speaker 3>you are grieving, and then you can wait, even as

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<v Speaker 3>the Maltese public is reeling in shock, even as daphnie

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<v Speaker 3>enemies are called in first to be briefed or give statements.

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<v Speaker 3>You the family can wait. But yes, there is a

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<v Speaker 3>small success. The next day, a different magistrate is chosen.

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<v Speaker 4>I am still sad and upset. That so much time

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<v Speaker 4>had elapsed, and especially the emotional toll on the family,

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<v Speaker 4>And how.

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<v Speaker 2>Did the single most important politician on Malta who featured

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<v Speaker 2>in Daphanese journalism react to her murder. Here is Joseph

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<v Speaker 2>muskat the then Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 4>We will leave no stone unturned.

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<v Speaker 3>In the video you can see him doing his best

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<v Speaker 3>portraying concern, righteous indignation, His body language result the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of political performance that definitely used merciless. But he also

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<v Speaker 3>makes it clear that Daphne's murder is a law enforcement question,

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<v Speaker 3>not a political crisis, and that his government does not

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<v Speaker 3>have a case to answer in Daphanes's death.

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<v Speaker 2>There is one concrete proposal from the government, the promise

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<v Speaker 2>of a one million euro reward about a million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for information leading to the arrest of the killers. Daphne's

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<v Speaker 2>family are invited to endorse this offer, but the decline.

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<v Speaker 2>The family believe that if they go along with the

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<v Speaker 2>reward that might be used against them, that it might

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<v Speaker 2>be used to claim that the family trust Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Muskett's plan to find their mother's killers, and at

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<v Speaker 2>this stage the family feel far from confidence in his

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<v Speaker 2>abilities or his willingness to solve the murder. After the

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<v Speaker 2>family refused to participate in the reward scheme, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be quietly forgotten. To date, no one has ever

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<v Speaker 2>claimed or received any of the reward money.

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<v Speaker 4>What I can tell you is that announcement that supposedly

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<v Speaker 4>incentive was given very little prominence by the government's channels.

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<v Speaker 4>It was literally left by the side. I doubt whether

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<v Speaker 4>it was mentioned ever again. If I remember correct, it

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<v Speaker 4>was only mentioned once. Definitely not more than twice.

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<v Speaker 3>The government continue to make a public show of taking

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<v Speaker 3>Daphne's murder seriously while trying to get the news agenda

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<v Speaker 3>back to other topics. But despite their efforts, the crisis

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<v Speaker 3>management isn't working. This isn't going to be just a

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<v Speaker 3>passing news event. The anger around Daphne's death is building,

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<v Speaker 3>not fading.

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<v Speaker 2>Protests in Daphne's memory at the Great Siege Monument become

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<v Speaker 2>a regular ritual. An international concern about freedom of the

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<v Speaker 2>press in Malta also grows.

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<v Speaker 3>At the start of November, two weeks after her death,

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<v Speaker 3>eight of the world's largest news organizations right to the

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<v Speaker 3>Vice President of the European Commission, urging him to investigate

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<v Speaker 3>her murder and the independence of the media in Malta.

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<v Speaker 2>Politicians like Joseph Muscat and Chris Cardona need to be

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<v Speaker 2>seen to be mourning the woman that had previously called

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<v Speaker 2>a liar and a gossip, who they had previously seen

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<v Speaker 2>sued for libel.

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<v Speaker 3>And all comes to a head on the third of November.

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<v Speaker 3>At Daphne's funeral, more than a thousand people gather to

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<v Speaker 3>pay their final respects to Daphanie at the Rotunda perish

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<v Speaker 3>Church in the town of Mosta. Flags are fown at

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<v Speaker 3>half mast on government buildings and law courts across the country.

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<v Speaker 3>The family refused to let Senia government figures, including the

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister. At ten during the ceremony, Daphne's son Matthew

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly rips a wreath that has been left as a

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<v Speaker 3>tribute to his mother. He furiously throws it to one side.

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<v Speaker 3>He has realized the wreath is a gift from Morta

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<v Speaker 3>speaker of the House of Parliament, angelofar Ruja, the very

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<v Speaker 3>same man who was Daphne's arresting officer when she was nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>And at that moment, as Matthew tears the reef apart,

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<v Speaker 2>it's clear that there is no chance of reconciliation between

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<v Speaker 2>Daphne's grieving family Multi's political establishment.

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<v Speaker 3>But all this public anger and sorrow isn't yet being

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<v Speaker 3>channeled into finding who actually killed Dafni Arwana Galizia, or

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<v Speaker 3>to discovering whether any of Malta's political leaders played any

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<v Speaker 3>role in her murder.

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<v Speaker 2>We do know that the assassins, the men on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground who planted and detonated the bomb that killed her,

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<v Speaker 2>are following a careful routine at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Right after the assassination, Chinese George disposed of his Berner

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<v Speaker 3>phone in the way he had on previous occasions, by

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<v Speaker 3>throwing it into the harbor water next to the so

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<v Speaker 3>called Potato shed, the warehouse that the gang used to

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<v Speaker 3>hang out in. The shed functions like their office, equipped

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<v Speaker 3>with armchairs, a fridge, and the guard dog. It's where

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<v Speaker 3>people go when they want to ask the gang for

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<v Speaker 3>help with a problem. And we know that Chinese George

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<v Speaker 3>threw his Berner phone into the harbor by the shed

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<v Speaker 3>because it turns out to do w There isn't deb deep,

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<v Speaker 3>not too deep for a diverse to surget.

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<v Speaker 2>We also know that the killers are shocked just how

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<v Speaker 2>big the political backlash to the murder. The murder they'd

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<v Speaker 2>committed is murders like the Carmel Kirkop drive by shooting

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<v Speaker 2>never made it to the international press and quickly faded

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<v Speaker 2>from view even in Malta. After those murders there were

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<v Speaker 2>no public protests, still less a funeral on the telly.

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<v Speaker 2>There are good reasons to be optimistic at this point

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<v Speaker 2>about smoking out the assassins. A car bomb triggered by

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<v Speaker 2>a mobile phone leaves a loss of forensic evidence, and

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<v Speaker 2>with such a professionally organized killing, the number of possible

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<v Speaker 2>culprits in Malta is limited.

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<v Speaker 3>That there's just the purely investigative forensic sidle, the politics

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<v Speaker 3>of solving serious crimes and more that are a little

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<v Speaker 3>more complex than that, As we're heard in the case

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<v Speaker 3>of the drive by murder of carmelker Cop. Professional contract

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<v Speaker 3>killings don't get carefully investigated in Malta, if they get

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<v Speaker 3>investigated at all. If anyone is punished for a contract killing,

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<v Speaker 3>it will be within the criminal fraternity tit for tat.

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<v Speaker 3>So the family are not optimistic about finding Daphnese assassins,

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<v Speaker 3>let alone discovering whoever ordered the bombing, but Here's where

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<v Speaker 3>daphnis family and supporters experience a piece of good luck.

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<v Speaker 3>It happens that the head of Malta's counter terrorism unit

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<v Speaker 3>is more diligent than some of his colleagues, and he

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<v Speaker 3>has a powerful context book. This is Jason, not so pridy.

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<v Speaker 4>He had immediately after Daphnie's assassination, immediately took the initiative

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<v Speaker 4>to contact his US counterparts in Rome, and thanks to

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<v Speaker 4>the very close working relationship he had with them, the

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<v Speaker 4>balls were set in motion for the FBI guys to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Over, including international andrism experts. It happens that an FBI

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<v Speaker 3>anti terrorism team is in Rome for a training exercise

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<v Speaker 3>and they arrive in Malta within twenty four hours of

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<v Speaker 3>Dafney's death. There is also a team of investigators from

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<v Speaker 3>the Netherlands who joined the case and Europol. The use

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<v Speaker 3>organized crime and terrorism agency assists two and these international

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<v Speaker 3>teams offer two things our local forces do not have,

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<v Speaker 3>world class forensic technology and indifference to multice politics.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I remember correctly, one of the FBI guys

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<v Speaker 4>had been involved in solving the Boston Meriton bombing. As

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<v Speaker 4>a result of the triangulation of data.

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<v Speaker 3>And knowing that car bombs are often triggered using SIM cards.

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<v Speaker 3>The FBI team got to work on recovering any traces

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<v Speaker 3>that the killer cell phones might have left.

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<v Speaker 4>They got hold of all the data that was passing

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<v Speaker 4>through two or three, if I remember correctly, mobile communications

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<v Speaker 4>towers the hamlet of Pittnea and in the vicinity.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge amount of data, even in a rural area.

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<v Speaker 3>Normally it would be beyond the capabilities of multi law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>How welcome this foreign help was to some in joys

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<v Speaker 3>of Moscow's government is not clear.

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<v Speaker 4>They would eventually manage to narrow down all the thousands

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<v Speaker 4>of phone calls and messages and data that was being

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<v Speaker 4>transmitted in the vicinity of Pittnea at the time. At

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<v Speaker 4>the precise time of Daphne's assassination.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we know, the calais had been sloppy, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>Chinese George de Georgia waiting on the boat, he had

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<v Speaker 3>used his personal cell phone registered in his name to

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<v Speaker 3>make calls requesting a credit top up for one of

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<v Speaker 3>his burner phones.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of all those tens of thousands of phone calls

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<v Speaker 4>and text messages and WhatsApp messages, what have you three

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<v Speaker 4>numbers which would eventually lead to three men.

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<v Speaker 3>The assassins Vincent Kough, Chinese George and his brother Alfred Deban.

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<v Speaker 3>Police already know these men. Their role as players in

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<v Speaker 3>the underworld was an open secret, and so with the

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<v Speaker 3>FBI's evidence, Malta Security services begin to plan a heavily

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<v Speaker 3>armed surprise raid what's known as a SWAT raid, a

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<v Speaker 3>swoop that will enable them to seize all three men

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<v Speaker 3>and show the world that Malta is capable of the

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<v Speaker 3>size of action to protect its citizens.

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<v Speaker 2>The plan is discussed in a briefing for the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister and some of his closest advisers. The date for

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<v Speaker 2>the SWAT raid is set December the ninth, less than

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<v Speaker 2>two months after Daphne's death.

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<v Speaker 3>There is actual footage of the raid as it happened

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<v Speaker 3>the Government SAI and in a joint operation by the

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<v Speaker 3>Armed Forces, the Malta Security Services and the Multi Police Force.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the video is from the point of view

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<v Speaker 2>of one soldier approaching the Keyside building from the sea

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<v Speaker 2>in a dingy. You can see his assault rifle resting

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of the boat. The area looks run down,

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<v Speaker 2>decrepit post industrial sheds with broken roofs, wooden warehouses with

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<v Speaker 2>broken windows.

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<v Speaker 3>As they approach the potato shed, you can see officers

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<v Speaker 3>climbing up onto the keyside, guns drawn and gesturing for

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<v Speaker 3>someone inside to get down on the floor. It's filmed

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<v Speaker 3>to be deliberately dramatic, almost in the style of Call

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<v Speaker 3>of Duty video games, and the authorities have made sure

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<v Speaker 3>to get multiple camera angles. There's even an overhead drawn

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<v Speaker 3>shot showing a second swat team entering from the opposite side.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually you see all three of the suspects handcuffed and

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<v Speaker 3>lying on the floor of the potato shed. Elsewhere in Malta,

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<v Speaker 3>other men suspected of involvement and supply the bomb were

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<v Speaker 3>also arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is something odd about this surprise shock rate

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<v Speaker 2>by the authorities, almost as if the criminals don't seem

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<v Speaker 2>that surprised or shocked, almost as if they had known

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<v Speaker 2>the cops were coming.

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<v Speaker 4>The hitmen before the arrests of December twenty seventeen, removed

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of items from the potato shed. The mobile

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<v Speaker 4>phones were found in the scene. They had been thrown

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<v Speaker 4>into sea prior to today of the arrest.

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<v Speaker 3>Strange it's a known.

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<v Speaker 4>Fact that the hitmen had been forewarned that the hitmen

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<v Speaker 4>had been given advanced knowledge.

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<v Speaker 3>Three contract killers, murderers of Malta's most famous journalists, apparently

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<v Speaker 3>have access to intelligence about the most sensitive police investigation

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<v Speaker 3>in modern multice history, an investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>Into them Digiorgio Brothers and Vince Mouscat. Not only that

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<v Speaker 4>they were being monitored, not only that they will be arrested,

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<v Speaker 4>but they actually knew the day when they will be arrested,

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<v Speaker 4>and they actually knew that it would be first thing

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent Lecough were way to testify that they were so

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<v Speaker 2>confident about the exact timing of the raid that he

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<v Speaker 2>got up especially early to make sure he would be

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<v Speaker 2>at the potato shed when it took place. The last

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<v Speaker 2>thing you want to do is to miss your own

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<v Speaker 2>surprise shocks what.

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<v Speaker 3>Raid And so even as Dephanie supporters are marching for

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<v Speaker 3>justice and international forensic experts are beginning to crack some

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<v Speaker 3>parts of the case, Dephanee killers and the man who

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<v Speaker 3>ordered her killing still appear to have the overwhelming advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>They seem to know every move the investigating team made.

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<v Speaker 3>Dephane's friends and family have a long road ahead of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, And then There's the Dog That Didn't That's coming next.

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