1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for the invested sportsman. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: All Right, here we go. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 3: Throwing. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: I'm saying it's a cash. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 4: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 4: go to wind. 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Big banksmall banks. I like to make money. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: All right, this is the ultimate kaba. 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 5: And we are underway. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the NFL Week twelve Fantasy 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: Flex on the Action Network podcast. I'm Athie Freeman, the 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: editor in chief of Fantasy Labs. Here with me as 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Sean Corner. He is our director of predictive Analytics and 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: one of the top end season fantasy football rankers for 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: the past half decade. Chris Ramon, he's our senior editor 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: and analyst at the Action Network and he cos of 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: the Action Network show on Sirius XM Fantasy Radio. In 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: joining us is one of my favorite Twitter personalities. Denny 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Carter at CD quarter thirteen. He's the proprietor of Drafting Consultants, 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: co host of the Living in the Stream podcast, the 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: better looking half of Fantasy Mensa, and the proud owner 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: of Low T Levels. Denny, Welcome to the show. 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Thanks man, I think you're underestimating how handsome Pete Oversett is. 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I just want to say that. 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm not and I'm giving you the slight edge. Sean, 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: how's it going well? 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: What's up? Last week? It was a little bit brutal, 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: especially in the Fantasy Pros contest. I had Robert Woods 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: like ten slots higher than ECR, So his surprise and 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: active really hurt me, and that really unfortunates is going 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: to happen. But hopefully, for whatever personal reasons, he's okay. 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: I hope everything goes well there. I don't want to 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: talk about Fantasy Pros because it is not going well 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: for me at all. Denny Week eleven, any takeaways that 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: you have from it? 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: We have a little thing called a podcast on the 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Living Stream Patreon page where I defended the Brian Hill 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: process last week. It this doesn't isn't necessarily a to 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: Brian Hill into you know, coming into this week, but 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: he saw decent volume. He saw sixteen touches against a 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: bottom dwelling run defense in the Panthers. The takeaway was 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: that the process was good. The results were not great, 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: but I think that we can maybe should ignore that 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: that's so that that sort of outcome next time a 46 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: running back comes available at such a cheap cost and 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: somebody who's available on a lot of waiver wires. 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: You had a one yard touchdown run that got called 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: back to the kind of a ticky tack holding penaltygue 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: and yeah, people will be talking about differently if you 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: know that didn't happen. So I agree. 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're in the situation this week where again 53 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: we do have some some Hill esque type of guys 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: to talk about with both Scarborough and Jonathan Williams. So 55 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: we are we are right back there again, Denny. I 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: want to start with you by looking at the quarterbacks 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: at the top of our rankings. Right now, we have 58 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, and Russell Wilson. At the top 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: of our week twelve rankings. Jackson and Deshaun Watson. Both 60 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: of those guys are off of the Maine late but 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: for people in season long, they're definitely in play. Who 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: are the guys you like this week? 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Well, I mean one guy who at a very low 64 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: price DFS wise that I like is Nick Foles, and 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: I know that the Jags have a pretty pretty bad 66 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: imply total. I think it's around twenty right now. But 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: Tennessee is I think kind of a low a low 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: key kind of good matchup for quarterbacks. Seventy two percent 69 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: of yardage gained against the Titans have come via the pass. 70 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: That's the eleventh highest rate in the league. Tennessee is 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: allowing seventeen point seven schedule adjusted fantasy points to quarterbacks. 72 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: And you know, we saw last week Foles had almost 73 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: three hundred yards and two touchdowns in you know, negative 74 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: script against the Colts. So the Jags are three point dog. 75 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Here we could see, you know, some of the same 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of stuff unfold, and you know, I'll take I'll 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: take the garbage time points from Nick Foles. 78 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: All right, So you are relatively high on Foles Sean, 79 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: you are relatively high on his former teammate Carson Wentz 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: to He's someone who's popping in some of our Fantasy 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: Labs models. He's also in play or dfs there. 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it makes sense that he's popping on 83 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: models because I have him ranked as the QB six 84 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: right now, and I think he's a guy I've been 85 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: kind of saying, you know, the time to buy law 86 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: on him was a couple weeks ago. He's been in 87 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: sort of a brutal stretch. You know, he obviously had 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: the game last week against the Patriots, which I think 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: he did pretty well. You know, if Nelson Aglar caught 90 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 3: that touchdown at the end of the game, I don't 91 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: think he'd be priced fifty six hundred this week. So 92 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: he's at home against the Seahawks, much better matchup. He's 93 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: only fifty six hundred, So I think he's a great 94 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: play this week on DK. I'm projecting him right now 95 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: that Alshon Jeffrey will return this week. I think if 96 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: he's out, I'll probably bump him down a bit because 97 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: they're I mean, the receiving court is pretty brutal right now. 98 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: So you know this, this is sort of with the 99 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: caveat that Jeffrey suits up. I like him this week, 100 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: and you know that they have the fifth highest team 101 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: toll this week. We always mentioned that's that's pretty correlated 102 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: with you know, QB projections and what we expect from them. 103 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: So I look for him to bounce back over these 104 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: next few weeks. He has a pretty easy schedule, so 105 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: he's a guy I've been buying low on the past 106 00:04:59,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. 107 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: Raymond, one guy you are relatively high on is Jeff Driscoll, 108 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: who has some I mean, I think kind of undervalued 109 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: abilities as a runner. He actually has three pretty good 110 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: receivers to throw to and you know, an up and 111 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: coming tight end. 112 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: And T. J. 113 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: Hawkinson, what are your thoughts on Jeff DRIs school this week? 114 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: What can we expect? 115 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 6: I mean, that was a heck of an intro Friedman. 116 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 6: You just kind of nailed all the reasons to like Driscoll. 117 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, I think the rushing ability is key. 118 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 6: You know, he's averaging twenty three DK points in two 119 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 6: starts with the Detroit Lions, and I think he has 120 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 6: an outside shot at getting that one hundred yard bonus 121 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 6: on the ground. Like they haven't been kind of capping 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 6: him as far as throwing. When they got behind against 123 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 6: the Bears, he threw forty six times. And you know 124 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 6: he does have as you mentioned weapons, you know, Gallade, Jones, Howkinson. 125 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 6: So this is a Redskins pass defense that you know, 126 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 6: we saw Sam Darnold, who had struggled in even some 127 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 6: some pretty good matchups, kind of come alive against them. 128 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 6: They are number twenty six in DVO against the pass, 129 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 6: number twenty one against the run, so I think dual 130 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 6: threat wise one way or the other, Drisco will find 131 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 6: his way to pretty high floor, probably fifteen ish Fantasy points, 132 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 6: but he has that upside for another twenty five or so. 133 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: So one guy I'm relatively high on is Aaron Rodgers. 134 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: He's coming off with the buy and although it's a 135 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: tough matchup with the forty nine ers, they've looked fairly 136 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: ordinary over the past three weeks, or more ordinary than 137 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: they did at the beginning of the season when they 138 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: were just dominating teams defensively, so I think it's an 139 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: underrated spot for him. One guy I'm relatively down on 140 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: is Tom Brady and Denny I know that you also 141 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: are low on Brady this week. What are your thoughts there? 142 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm well, I mean if you look on DK 143 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: he's praised at QB eight, which is just seems way 144 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: too high to me. So, I mean, this is a 145 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: team that obviously struggles offensively. They're running the ball a 146 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: ton New England as eleventh and runs per game, and 147 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: I was looking at his recent game logs. So Brady 148 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: has thrown ninety three passes the past two weeks and 149 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: scored a grand total of twenty three fantasy points. We 150 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: in the industry call that not good. 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: Sean, where are you on someone you're relatively low on? 152 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: I don't like the other quarterback in that game that's 153 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: at the same price at six K, Dak Prescott. I mean, 154 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: this is pretty easy take to have any QB against 155 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: the Patriots. We fade, but I think people will still 156 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 3: be tempted to take Prescott here at the cheaper price. 157 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: I mean, he's been tearing it up, but where do 158 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: I even again? You know, the last QB to throw 159 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: for over two yards other than Wentz last week was 160 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: Big Ben in Week one, and the Patriots they become 161 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: you know, pretty run funnel defense lately. So I think 162 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: this is a game where we'll see a lot of 163 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: Zeke carries. And you know, going back to team totals, 164 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: the Cowboys have the same team total as the Redskins 165 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: this week, so my model really doesn't have many touchdowns 166 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: to go around for this offense. So, you know, Dak, 167 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: I think the way he hits value might be his 168 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: rushing ability, but you know, at six k, I'm not 169 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: willing to take that chance. I think he will be 170 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: over on this week. I think people will kind of 171 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: overlook the tough match up care and still roll with them, 172 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: but I'm going to be pretty low on him this week. 173 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an intriguing spot because the Cowboys have the 174 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: number one pass offense, but they're going against the team 175 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: that has the number one pass defense. So it's I 176 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: think a good litmus test in a way, even though 177 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: it's just one instance, but a litmus test for kind 178 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: of like what matters more like offense or defense. How 179 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: can you kind of go about predicting, you know, projections 180 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: for instances like this. Raymond, what are your thoughts on Dak. 181 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of the same thing. I don't like him 182 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 6: in DFS do. I am a couple of spots higher 183 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 6: than you guys in the rankings. I have them at 184 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 6: as my QB ten generally in terms of, you know, 185 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 6: offense versus defense, I find that with quarterbacks and a 186 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 6: lot of the efficiency mestrics, it's it's kind of in 187 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 6: that sixty forty two to one range offense. So perhaps 188 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 6: that's why I don't have them dinged quite as much 189 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 6: as you guys. 190 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 5: But also I. 191 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 6: Think New England struggled with Lamar Jackson, which is something 192 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 6: to kind of note now that could be good because 193 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 6: they got now they got practice against them. But you know, 194 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 6: Dak did play well against you know, the Vikings, another 195 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 6: team with a pretty strong pass defense. So I do 196 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 6: have him as a fringe top ten option, but fading 197 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 6: him in DFS. 198 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: All right. Well, on the topic of Dak, Sean, I 199 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: believe that you have a prop that you are going 200 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: to offer to us. By the way, everyone to check 201 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: out the Fantasy Labs prop tool. The props on there 202 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: with a bad quality of ten dating back to last 203 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: season have a sixty percent win rate, so a pretty 204 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: useful tool for everyone interested in props. Sean, hit us 205 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: with your Dak Prescott prop. 206 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wanted to do a Dak passing yard prop. 207 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be one of the most intriguing 208 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: props to bet on this week and one of the 209 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: toughest things to project right now. Right now, I have 210 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: him at two hundred and fifty four and a half 211 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: passing yards. 212 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 6: I that's tough. That's a that's a really good line. 213 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 6: I have him just over It's early in the week, 214 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 6: so I can't say I want to. I mean, that's 215 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'll go with my model what it says 216 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 6: now and go over. I think that like the thing 217 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 6: about Dak is he has three receivers that can can 218 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 6: kind of make big plays. And we've kind of seen 219 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 6: it at a Randam Cob now too, so you know, 220 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 6: I think that it could it could be kind of 221 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 6: a high volume game where it gets over on a 222 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 6: low yard for attempt. 223 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have the under, but I have it at 224 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: two fifty three. 225 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: So it sounds like you all right, It sounds like 226 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: I don't need to do much tweaking. This sounds like 227 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: a consensus line. 228 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: Here, Denny, do you have a take here? 229 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: I go over. I'm going over because you know why, 230 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: because I want it to happen. That's why over two 231 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: fifty four. 232 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: Let's get to the running backs. The three guys at 233 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: the top of our ranking is Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara, 234 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: and Nick Chubb. Denny, any thoughts on those guys or 235 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: anyone else that you would kind of include in your 236 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: top tier of running backs for this week. 237 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara's usage was, you know, really telling last week. 238 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: I think maybe coming back from from the injury, he 239 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: gets Carolina this week, and I mean, you can't ask 240 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: you can hardly ask for a better running back matchup 241 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: than that, so I struggle to keep him out of 242 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: my top tier. 243 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: All right, anyone else who are relatively high on. 244 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I guess Derrick Henry would be one against the Jacksonville 245 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: defense that doesn't seem to be interested in stopping the 246 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: run in a Tennessee offense that you know desperately wants 247 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: to run all the time, that makes sense to me. 248 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: I'm with you there. I actually have him number two overall, 249 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: which is super aggressive, but I mean, I think it's 250 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: kind of warranted. The Jags are a run funnel and 251 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: they're facing an offense that wants to run as much 252 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: as it possibly can, and you know, it's a week 253 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: where there aren't all that many great running backs available. 254 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: So I'm yeah, I'm kind of on board on being 255 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: aggressive there with with Derrick Henry. Sean, what are your 256 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: thoughts on Derrick Henry. 257 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that call. I'm high on him too. 258 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: He's only sixty nine hundred on DK, so he's going 259 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: to be one of my more popular running back plays 260 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: this week. You know, they're fresh off the buy their 261 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: home favorites. This should be the time here we start 262 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: seeing massive workloads from him down the stretch. We saw 263 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: it last year where they took advantage of, you know, 264 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: the defenses being a little worn down this time here, 265 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 3: So he had that just ridiculous closing stretch of the season. 266 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: We could see something similar this year. Probably not as good, 267 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: but you know, the Jaguars they've been struggling against the 268 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: run ever since Marcel Darius went down in Week eight 269 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: he was placed on the ir So we saw you know, 270 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: similar backs to Henry, like Carlos Hyde put up one 271 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty one hundred and sixty yards against them, 272 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: and then Marla Mack put up one oh nine before 273 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 3: getting hurt, and then Jonathan Williams came in and put 274 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: up one to sixteen himself. So we've seen these you know, 275 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: bigger between tackle backs excel against the Jaguars. So no 276 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: reason to think Henry can't crush the spot and the 277 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: other guy is both Scarborough forty two hundred. I kind 278 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: of wish I ranked them a little higher last week. 279 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: I did like him going in, but it was more 280 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: of a speculative kind of thing because you know, the 281 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: lion they've been searching for, you know, sort of a 282 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: true workhorse back ever since carry On Johnson went down 283 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: and Scarborough at least has you know, twenty plus carry potential, 284 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: and I think, you know, last week he got fourteen 285 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: or fifteen carries despite a trailing game script. So I 286 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 3: think this week at Washington, we should see him put 287 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: up between fifteen and twenty touches. So I think at 288 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: forty two hundred, you know, he's a good way to 289 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: invest in, you know, a bunch of touches and touchdown 290 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 3: potential this week. So I like him a lot at 291 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: that price. 292 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: All right, in Raybond, who are you relatively high on? 293 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 5: I love Le'Veon Bell. 294 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 6: He's only sixty four hundred doll DraftKings and going against 295 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: this Oakland defense that is number twenty two in rush Dvoa. 296 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 6: Bell has been a guy that's been high usage, high 297 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 6: snap rate guy for most of the season, and you know, 298 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 6: I think he's still a little under price. You know, 299 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 6: started had that really rough start, so you know, going 300 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 6: against again this Oakland defense not very good on the 301 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 6: ground and not very good through the air either, number 302 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 6: twenty three, So I think the Jets will be able 303 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 6: to move the ball and get him in position for 304 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: some goal line carries. As well, So love le'veona at 305 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 6: sixty four. I think that's a great value. 306 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: All right, Denny, you are relatively high on Adrian Peterson 307 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: and low on Chris Carson. Can he hear me some 308 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: thoughts on those guys? Yeah? 309 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: So, yeah, Peterson is my bull headed play. I guess 310 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: here forty three hundred on draft Kings. I know Darius 311 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Geis is back, but you know, I think you can't 312 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: underestimate just how committed to the run of Washington's offense 313 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: is going to be. So if they can possibly hang 314 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: this week at all, I think Peterson has a chance 315 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: to see some volume. I mean just last week he 316 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: saw eleven touches in a total blowout loss. He saw 317 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: nineteen touches in a fourteen point loss the week before 318 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: against Buffalo. If Washington can hang in there with Detroit, 319 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Detroit is giving up a lot a lot of points 320 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: to running backs only case allows more schedule adjusted points 321 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: to running backs, and Detroit he has given up ten 322 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns this season, which is the third most. So 323 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: if Washington can manage to get the ball near the 324 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: end zone, which you know is hard to say right now, 325 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, you know that Peterson is gonna is gonna 326 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: have a chance. 327 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: All right. 328 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: And then Chris Carson, what are the negative thoughts on him? 329 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I just I think at his DFS price, 330 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: it's just I mean, maybe maybe he profiles. It's like 331 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: a contrarian like large field tournament play or something at 332 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: that at that price. But the matchup is is just 333 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: super ugly against Philadelphia. Philadelphia allows you know, less than 334 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: a twenty schedule just to points to to running backs, 335 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: which is among the the stingiest in the league. Carson 336 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: has seen some action, you know, some passing game action 337 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: in games where script turns bad for Seattle, but I'm 338 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: not sure what you can you can rely on that. 339 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just looking at his recent target numbers 340 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: for the price, I'm just I'm really really not into 341 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: them this week, all right, Sean. 342 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier that we have Nick Chubb in our 343 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: top three, and that is because Raymond and I have 344 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: him ranked three. I believe you have him ranked I 345 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: don't know, number seven, number eight, something like that. You're 346 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: you're relatively low on him in comparison to the other 347 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: two good looking guys who do their rankings with you. 348 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: Can you talk about your thoughts with Nick Chubb. 349 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: Just to be clear, you know, running backs two through 350 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: seven I have separated by about point three points, so 351 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some shuffling there. But yeah, he's the 352 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: guy I'm a little bit lower on this week in 353 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: DFS just because he's eighty one hundred this week now. Granted, 354 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: I love the matchup at home against the Dolphins. He's 355 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: actually he has the most projected rushing yards and rushing 356 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: touchdowns on my model right now. But you know, ever 357 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: since kream Hunt has returned, he's been non existent in 358 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: the passing game. He has five total receiving yards in 359 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: the two games. So I think that caps is upside 360 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: on a PPR site like DraftKings, So he basically has 361 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: to score one or two touchdowns at that price to hit, 362 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: and I just think it's you're better off spinning down 363 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: at guys like for guys like Derek Henry and Bose 364 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: Garbo especially that are you know, twenty potential carryback with 365 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: touch on upside. That's basically what Chubb is this week 366 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: at eighty one hundred. So I think just at that price, 367 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 3: he doesn't have the ceiling right now due to his 368 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: lack of you know, involvement in the pass game to. 369 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: Warrant it all right, Raymond in the top three. We 370 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: see for Nett. For Shawn's rankings, you have him ranked 371 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: number six. Can you talk about Fournette. 372 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Fournette is going to drop off a 373 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 6: little bit to close out the season with Nick Foles. 374 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 6: And the reason being is for Nette not really the 375 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 6: greatest shotgun back. So with Gardner Minshew, they were able 376 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 6: to play a little bit more under center and kind 377 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 6: of line up for a net in the deep eye. 378 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 6: But Nick Foles, you know, he's a guy RPO almost 379 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 6: exclusively operates out of the shotgun. And you look at 380 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 6: Fournette in his career, just three point five yards per 381 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 6: carry and seven point one yards per catch, you know, 382 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 6: out of the shotgun. But under center, it's four point 383 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 6: two yards per carry eleven point one yards per catch. 384 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 6: So he's at he's a lot easier to defend, you know, 385 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 6: when he's in the shotgun, and Foles is probably going 386 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 6: to keep him there. And this is also a tough 387 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 6: match up against Tennessee. They are the number four rated 388 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 6: defense in terms of rushing DVA. So even if the 389 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 6: Jaguars kind of want to commit to the run. I 390 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 6: don't think this is the matchup to do it. So 391 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 6: that combined with Raquel Armstead, his routes per dropback have 392 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 6: increased for three straight games, you know, ten percent couple 393 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 6: games ago, seventeen percent, and then twenty five percent in 394 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 6: the last game. So those two factors kind of just 395 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 6: cap a little bit of four net's upside, and you know, 396 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 6: like kind of comparing him to Chubb Chubb actually, like 397 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 6: Chubb and Hunter are being used on the field a 398 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 6: lot at the same time, So I'm a little more 399 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 6: scared of a guy like Fournette because Chubb, he ran 400 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 6: fifty seven percent of the routs last game, eighty one 401 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 6: percent the game of four so that averages out to 402 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 6: about sixty seven, which is right around his season average 403 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 6: of sixty nine. But for Nette, he needs all as 404 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 6: much as he can at this point because I don't 405 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 6: know if the efficiency is going to be there. 406 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: Nice let's go to the rushing prop. I believe you 407 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: want to talk about Philip Lindsay. 408 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Philip Lindsay, you know, right before game time 409 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 3: last week, they announced they wanted to basically make him 410 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: the workhorse back. So I went and hammered the over. 411 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: Any prop for his rushing yards I could find, so 412 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: I hit big on that, but you know, they kind 413 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: of abandoned that heading on the second half of them. 414 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: They blew the twenty point lead. So curious your guys 415 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 3: thought Philip lindsay potentially being the workhorse back against a 416 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 3: run funnel defense. I have the highest projection I've had 417 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: for him all year, at seventy three and a half 418 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: rushing yards. So I want to see if that makes 419 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: any sense to you guys. 420 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: I get it, but I'm going to take the under. 421 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: It's pretty aggressive, and I kind of can't trust anything 422 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: that they say in terms of how they want to 423 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: split the workload between the two backs. So I feel 424 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: like I just have to kind of revert back to 425 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: what it is that they've done for the first eleven weeks. 426 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I like the under as well. I'm kind of 427 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 6: probably putting numbers to what Friedman is saying. You know, 428 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 6: I kind of use situations if there's data, like a 429 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 6: weighted average of the last few weeks in terms of 430 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 6: splitting up the carries, and you know, he was over. 431 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 6: He was sixty four percent two weeks ago and then 432 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 6: sixty two percent last week. For the year, he's at 433 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 6: fifty seven percent of the running back carries, So I mean, 434 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 6: there was a slight increase last week after they said that, 435 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 6: but nothing real major. So when you project them for 436 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 6: about just over sixty percent, it's not changing his his 437 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 6: his numbers that much. 438 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: I'm a little scared of script going sideways here for Denver. 439 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: The matchup is bright, I think, but like last week 440 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: when they had to start, when they had to kind 441 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: of abandon the run against the Vikings, that sort of 442 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: torpedoed Lindsay's rushing production. I think that we could see 443 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: that again here against Buffalo. Though You're right about it. 444 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: It is definitely a funnel run defense, so it makes sense. 445 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: I want to say yes, but I think I have. 446 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: To go with the under all right, Sean, just locked 447 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: it up the clean sweet there. 448 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hoping that's a trap line, but who knows. 449 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: Hope you're enjoying this great Action network podcast. I want 450 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 4: to make sure you know about the Locked On podcast 451 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: network Locked On as a daily podcast on your favorite team. 452 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to you Lockdown forty nine ers. You are locked 453 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: own of the Dallas matterge. 454 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Lockdown Lakers podcast Let's Go. 455 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 4: Locked On podcasts are hosted by the local experts who 456 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: know your team better than anyone and give you the 457 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: inside scoop. So go to your podcast app and search 458 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: locked on your favorite team, subscribe to your locked on podcast. 459 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: Joining us to talk NFL DFS is Peter Jenning's akacs 460 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: r M eighty eight, a two time DFS World champion 461 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: and co founder of Fantasy Labs. Pete Week eleven, did 462 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: it treat you gently? 463 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 7: We thought it was pretty good. Actually almost had a 464 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 7: really really big score. I was in first for a 465 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 7: while in the luxury box with Dak gallup and Cobb 466 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 7: low owned and Jim finishing fifth. But yeah, strong week 467 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 7: and just helping to trend and the rest of the year. 468 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into week twelve. How do you 469 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: think you're approaching cash games and GPPs. 470 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that it's somewhat wide open, so you 471 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 7: can just kind of build what you think is best. 472 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 7: We'll see how news breaks throughout the week, but I 473 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 7: don't think there's like huge, huge chock, and I could 474 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 7: be wrong. We'll see how things kind of break down 475 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 7: with injuries, but I think it's a more open week 476 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 7: than we've seen in the past, So it's gonna be 477 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 7: game stacking in tournaments and just looking for the best plays. 478 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: All right. 479 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: We are recording this on Tuesday night. As of right now, 480 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: who are the quarterbacks who've caught your eye? 481 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 7: I think the quarterback I like most of the DraftKings right 482 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 7: now is Matt Ryan. He's been playing great all year. 483 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 7: Going up against Tampa Bay, big funnel defense, expect Matt 484 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 7: Ryan and the Falcons to continue to play decently well. 485 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 7: I mean, the defense has been a big surprise coming 486 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 7: off the buy, but they've been playing a little bit 487 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 7: better than their record, and Matt Ryan has been balling 488 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 7: all year, so love him versus the funnel. I think 489 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 7: Drew Brees is interesting. Basically everyone in that division is good. 490 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 7: Drew Brees, Jamis Winston and a plan that she that's 491 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 7: standing out right now in Fantasy stabs models is Carson Wentz, 492 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 7: who I think is a strong play as well at Seattle. 493 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 7: I wish he had DeShawn Jackson. But do you like 494 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 7: that price tag? 495 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Matt Ryan. Definitely going against the defense 496 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: that's having a lot of uncertainty right now at the 497 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: cornerback position. At running back. Who do you like? 498 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 7: Running back is really tricky this week on the main slate, 499 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 7: we'ren't a set of monitor what happens with Devonte Freeman. 500 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 7: He's a big piece to fall and if he plays, 501 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 7: he's probably a pretty solid play at fifty one hundred 502 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 7: of me's out, then we're gonna have to look at 503 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 7: all the backups. Really like Leonard Fournett as well, who 504 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 7: is kind of getting the squeaky wheel. They're talking about 505 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 7: feeding him even more. Obviously, love his volume. I was 506 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 7: encouraged by Alvin Kamara's usage. I think he's interesting as well. 507 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 7: Preferred Derek Henry on basically every sight outside of DraftKings 508 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 7: or it's PPR, But he's another strong play. Running back's 509 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 7: just a tricky position because there's not like the standout 510 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 7: plays that we've had in the past. So that's where 511 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 7: I'm struggling a little bit to figure out what is optimal. 512 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 7: But there's a lot of good plays, and certainly love 513 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 7: Miles Sanders at five K He's one of my top 514 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 7: plays overall. 515 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: Right, now, what are you thinking about wide receiver? 516 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, wide receiver to me is a little bit better 517 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 7: of a position versus running back. They brought Michael Thomas' 518 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 7: price down a ninety three hundred on draftings. 519 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 3: I think you can jam him in. 520 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 7: You have the Atlanta receivers Lelo Jones and Calvin Ridley, 521 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 7: which I think are strong plays if you're going to 522 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 7: play Carson Wentz alson Jeffrey ends up being in, which 523 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 7: would be a boost for Wentz. He's only forty nine hundred, 524 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 7: so I think he's intriguing as well. Devonte Parker going 525 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 7: up against Cleveland is rating decently well for me. Dede 526 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 7: Westbrook's another interesting guy. I think there's quite a few 527 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 7: plays and if you want to get really thin, this 528 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 7: is on brand for me. But MARII Cooper is really 529 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 7: really cheap, as are all the Dallas guys. And it's 530 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 7: a brutal matchup going into New England. But this Dallas 531 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 7: offense is for real. 532 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we have the number one passing offense 533 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: going against the number one passing defense. You think at 534 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: some point the Patriots will be able to stop him, 535 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: but I mean you've seen strange things happen, and I 536 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: imagine Amari will also have pretty light ownership too, so 537 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: another point in his favor there. Finally, for Titans, who 538 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: are you looking at? 539 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 7: Zach Ertz, which is kind of why I mentioned Carson 540 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 7: Wentz earlier. I really like zach Ertz this week. I 541 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 7: think he's a really strong play. At only six K, 542 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 7: he's gonna get a ton of volume. And also, like 543 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 7: Dallas Goddard if you want to pivot off him or 544 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 7: played both potentially with Wentz, I don't hate that. So 545 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 7: those two guys are standing out quite a bit for me. 546 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 7: Going against the Jets if you want to save money, 547 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 7: vance McDonald versus the Bengals is a really strong play. 548 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 7: We'll see how the news breaks for all the guys 549 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 7: on Pittsburgh. But good Cook looked pretty good coming back, 550 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 7: and Austin Hooper could be a pamp to be contrarian 551 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 7: play as well, assuming he is good to go. 552 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: I already was trending in the right direction. We'll see 553 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: what happens with his injury. 554 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: All right. Finally, is there a contrarian stack for a 555 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: team or maybe a game that you might be looking 556 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: to stack that you think will have low ownership in. 557 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 7: The Dallas one before, But another stack that I really 558 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 7: like that we haven't talked too much about is Baker Mayfield, 559 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 7: Miami's a dream matchup, and I love game stacks. Think 560 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 7: Odell Beckham finally has a huge game. Chubb is interesting 561 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 7: to me. Jarvis Landry, so I'm pretty high on Baker 562 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 7: Mayfield in the Cleveland passing game and running it back 563 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 7: with DeVante. 564 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: All Right, that was Peter Jennings with his DFS thoughts 565 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: for Week twelve. Okay, let's get to the wide receivers. 566 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: The guys at the top of our wide receiver rankings 567 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: Michael Thomas, Julio Jones, Mike Evans. Probably no surprise there, Denny. 568 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: Is there anyone else you would want to include in 569 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: your top tier top tier? 570 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: I think, well, one time, I'm particularly high on, maybe 571 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: higher than some DJ Moore based on what I think 572 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: it would be likely Gamescript. The Panthers are pretty heavy 573 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: underdogs here against New Orleans, and we've seen what happens 574 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: when Carolina has to chase points and it's you know, 575 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: it's not terrible for DJ Moore. You know, last week 576 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: when they were chasing points in Atlanta against Atlanta, he 577 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: saw fifteen targets. The week before against Green Day, he 578 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: saw eleven when they were down to Tennessee and had 579 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: to take to the air he saw ten targets against 580 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: the Titans. You go down the list really and you'll 581 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: see any time that they've had to that they've fallen behind, 582 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Moore has been peppered with targets. So if you're talking 583 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: about opportunity, I do think that he's a bit underpriced, 584 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: especially on DraftKings. 585 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: And to your point, I think it's a good situation 586 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: for him this week, and that even though the Saints 587 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: have been good against the past this year, they are 588 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: expected to be without Marshaun Lattimore, who they were without 589 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: last week, and so I think they're going to use 590 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: Eli Apple in shadow coverage and he's just not the 591 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 2: defender that Marshaun Lattimore is, so an improved matchup for him. Sean, 592 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: who are you relatively high on this week? 593 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: So I'm liking Devonte Parker at fifty two hundred this week. 594 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: He's the guy that you know people are going to 595 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: overlook just because he's on the Dolphins. But ever since 596 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: you know, Preston Williams was placed in ir he's been 597 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: sort of the alpha receiver on this offense. So he's 598 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: averaged six catches for one hundred and two yards the 599 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: past two games. I think that should continue. This week 600 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: should see plenty of garbage time at Cleveland. And this 601 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: is with you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick as QB. As soon 602 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: as Josh Rosden takes over, I'll probably sour on Parker 603 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: and Giseki. So this is all, you know, just as 604 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: long as Fitzpatrick is starting, I think Devonte Parker will 605 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: be overlooked a bit and the other guy that I'm 606 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: liking it so early in the week, we don't really 607 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: know the Steelers availability like Juju and Deontay could miss 608 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: this week. I would love James Washington at five K 609 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: right now. You know we've seen the past few weeks. 610 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: Actually he's diverse fight as route tree where he's no 611 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: longer just you know, the low volume deep threat. He's 612 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: running a lot of different routes they've had. Johnny Holton 613 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: is the guy that just runs deep thirty percent of 614 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: the snaps, and you know they never throw to him. Washington. 615 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: I think if if both receivers are out, Washington could 616 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: see you know, eight to ten targets in this game, 617 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 3: and I think at five K he'd be a free square. 618 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: This Plus there's the Shower narrative in play with his 619 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: college quarterback Mason Rudolph, So have to give lots of 620 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: those lots of credit to that Raybond. I believe there 621 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: are a few wide receivers you're relatively high on. 622 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: Who are these guys like Tyro Williams. 623 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 6: This week the Jets are just one of those matchups 624 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 6: where you want to target the team's top receiver. Jets 625 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 6: are allowing the most scheduled adjusted yards two number one 626 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 6: wide receivers in the league at ninety one and a 627 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 6: half per football outside is the ranked number twenty four 628 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 6: in DVOA against number one wide receivers. So I like 629 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 6: him a five point nine k. Tim Patrick, he's kind 630 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 6: of another guy free square. He's min priced on DraftKings. 631 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 6: He saw eight targets last week in his return from injury. 632 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 6: Remember that Denver, you know they lost Emmanuel Sanders. Deshaun 633 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 6: Hamilton runs routes but just doesn't get targeted. He's like 634 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 6: Andre Patten or something. He just you know, completely inconsequential 635 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 6: on the football field. So I think you could see 636 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 6: another eight target week because Tredavious White that the Bill's 637 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 6: top corner. 638 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 5: Uh, he could follow Courtland Sotton. 639 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 6: Buffalo is also one of the better teams perennially against 640 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 6: the tight end position, and Noah Ffan's been getting a 641 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 6: ton of targets lately too, So I think this sets 642 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 6: up well for Patrick at three k uh in DFS 643 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 6: on DraftKings and Anthony Miller. He's another guy you know, 644 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 6: starting to play full time role. We saw him get 645 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 6: eleven target six catches last week. He's running pretty much, 646 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 6: you know, a route on most of the pass plays nowadays, 647 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 6: and the Giants get just torched in the slot. 648 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 5: They've been getting torched in the slot all season. 649 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 6: So at three point five k I think he is 650 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 6: another guy that you could you could look to there. 651 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 6: There are quite a few guys in that lower price 652 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: range this week. I think, as Sean mentioned too, like 653 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 6: if if Juju and and Deontay are out, you have 654 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 6: Tevin Jones a min price. You have Johnny Holton who 655 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 6: got seven targets last week. He's essentially the old James Washington. 656 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: He's he's cheap too, So a lot of guys down 657 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 6: there to uh to kind of target Denny. 658 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: It looks like you're relatively low on John Brown, who 659 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm coming off like a season best game last week, 660 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: but that was against the Dolphins. And everyone tends to 661 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: look very good against the Dolphins. It's a different matter 662 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: this week with his matchup going against Chris Harris Junior. 663 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts with him? 664 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: Right? 665 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: So he's now in the price range on DraftKings of 666 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: guys like Edelman and OBJ. I cannot justify that sort 667 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: of pricing. He only fifty two percent of targets against 668 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: Denver this year have gone to wide receivers. That's the 669 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: fourth lowest rate in the league. Last week was the 670 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: first time Brown saw more than five targets since Week three, 671 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: which kind of shocked me. But I did confirm and 672 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: no team has allowed fewer wide receiver receptions this season 673 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: than Denver. As teams, as you guys know, attack Denver 674 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: mostly on the ground, whether that has to do with 675 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Harris and the secondary being good, or the fact that 676 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: Denver just faces a lot of bad game script, whatever 677 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: the case may be. I just don't see a volume 678 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: based case for Brown. He could always catch a long 679 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: ball from Josh Allen. You know that's obviously in the cards. 680 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: But I I think I think he's a fade this week. 681 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 2: All right, one guy who is a fade for me 682 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: and Sean. He's also a fade for you at Tyler Boyd. 683 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: He's a perennial fad for me basically, and I'm I 684 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: think pretty hardcore anti Tyler Truther. I love that he 685 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: is targeted almost as much as anyone else in the league, 686 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: and yet he still can't manage to to get the 687 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: production that people want out of him. Can you continue 688 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: to pile on to him for me while I just 689 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: watch and enjoy what you say? 690 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I mean, DK pricing is pretty good this week. 691 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: There aren't many guys I think are overpriced, So he's 692 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: just the guy I'm coming out on record. I have 693 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: to tell myself I will not play Taylor Boy like 694 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: you know, Bart Simpson the chuckboard right over and over again. 695 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: I will not play taylorboy like I've been trapped by 696 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: him so much. And this week, you know, I'm Tate 697 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: might miss AJ Green will probably out again, so he 698 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 3: might be, you know, projected to do good. But as 699 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: long as Ryan filling his quarterback, you cannot play this guy. 700 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: If he's popping in a model or something, just avoid 701 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: him at all costs. Do not play him. The underlying 702 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: metrics are there, he gets the targets, but Ryan Finley 703 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: is throwing the ball and that just doesn't work out. 704 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: So I just have to tell myself on Tuesday, no 705 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 3: matter what happens, I'm not playing Tyler Boyd this week. 706 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: Did I see that he has ninety one targets and 707 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: no touchdowns? Is that correct? 708 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? That sounds about right. Wow. 709 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: You have to be talented not to find the end 710 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: zone with that many targets. Raybond, we talked earlier about 711 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: the matchup that the Cowboys passing offense has going against 712 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: that really stout Patriots defense. Obviously that will impact Amari Cooper. 713 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts with him? 714 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Sean mentioned it. 715 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 6: There aren't many guys that are completely, like, egregiously overpriced 716 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: this week, So I'm gonna go with a talented guy 717 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 6: on unlike Tyler Boyd and a guy is just a 718 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 6: little further down my rankings, and it looks like the 719 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 6: consensus I'm at. I'm at number eighteen with Amari Cooper 720 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 6: right now. It's probably the lowest I've had him all year, 721 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 6: but he's at six point six K on Raftkings. He's 722 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 6: the tenth highest priced wide receiver. Reports are that he's 723 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 6: still been affected by you know, knee ankle issues that 724 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 6: have been kind of plaguing him these last couple of weeks. 725 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 6: He only played fifty five percent of the snaps last week. 726 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 6: Now he has to go against the Patriots. With that 727 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 6: comes probable shadow coverage from Stefan Gilmour, who's allowing forty 728 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 6: six percent of the targets against him to be caught 729 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 6: for only five point seven yards per target. And then 730 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 6: New England as a whole ranks number five in GVOA 731 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 6: against number one wide receivers and they allow the fifth 732 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 6: fewest schedule adjusted yards per game to number one wide 733 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 6: receivers at fifty seven and a half. Both of those 734 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 6: are per Football Outsiders. So just a tough matchup for Amari. 735 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 5: You know, I don't. I think it's going to be 736 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 5: a below expectation game for Mari. 737 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: All right, Well, the guy who has the opposite of 738 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: a below expectation game is Julio Jones. Sean, I want 739 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,479 Speaker 2: to get to you because I believe that your wide 740 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: receiver prop of the week is for him. 741 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's He's a tricky guy to project 742 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 3: for me. I'm expecting this to be an obvious, you know, 743 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: eruption spot at home against the Buccaneers. But you know, 744 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: we've seen this Falcons defense resurgency hit the past couple 745 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 3: weeks has been insane, and they faced Jamis Winston this week, 746 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: so I'm also afraid we could see a pretty positive 747 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: game script where they you know, the Falcons won't need 748 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: to throw that much. So curious to hear your thoughts 749 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 3: on my projection there. Right now, I have Julio at 750 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: eighty nine and a half for Sydney Yards. 751 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 6: Over bang Over. Yeah, I mean I have him significantly higher. 752 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 6: Part of that, I think is I'm expecting Austin Hooper 753 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 6: to miss, which I kind of bumps his target count 754 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 6: up a little bit. I think some new drew a 755 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 6: few more targets than Gauge does on a pro route 756 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 6: basis as well, So just have Julio's targets kind of 757 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 6: ticking up. And Tampa Bay is just not one of 758 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 6: those teams that kind of forces you to go other 759 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 6: places when you don't want, you know, they you can 760 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 6: go to your number one against Tampa. 761 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 5: So either way, I like Julio. 762 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in kind of a dark place about 763 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: Atlanta's defense being being decent now because it's like It's 764 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: like ruin my redraft life because it was so fun, 765 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, to play your Falcons players based on you know, 766 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: the likely volume, the you know, tons of throw I 767 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: think that at one point they were averaging forty three 768 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: passes a game. And so I hear what you're saying 769 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: about about you know, that improved defense changing things perhaps, 770 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: but I think even even with that, I think you 771 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: go over for Jolio in this game. 772 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: Real quick. I just realized that I have Hooper tentatively 773 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: expected to play. That's probably, you know, as a Hooper owner, 774 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: in eighty percent of my league's wishful thinking. So yeah, 775 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: I think if if Hooper's rolled out, I could see 776 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: bumping Leo up Culser at one hundred here. So I 777 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 3: just want to put that out there. That's why I'm 778 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 3: so lower right now, I guess, and I wanted to. 779 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 6: I just wanted to point out, like a lot of 780 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 6: people kind of weren't wondering about that that turnaround for 781 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 6: the Atlanta defense. It seems to be what the kind 782 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 6: of what kind of springboarded that was during the bye 783 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 6: dan Quinn took Raheem Morris. I believe it was former 784 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 6: coach of the Bucks actually, but he was the he 785 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 6: was the wide receivers coach, and he made him the 786 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 6: defensive backs coach. And we know the Falcons one place 787 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 6: they do pretty well that wide receiver, in one place 788 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 6: they do not do pretty well that. 789 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 5: Defensive you know back. 790 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 6: So apparently like it's they've been a lot more organized 791 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 6: than there have been a lot less coverage busts since 792 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 6: since kind of moving Morris over there, So I mean, 793 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 6: tenth through that, I guess we have to expect that 794 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 6: to kind of continue until we get proven otherwise. 795 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the long term revenge game for Raheem Morris against 796 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers can't can't ignore that either. No, I'm totally 797 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: with Raybon on this. The Bucks are allowing the most 798 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 2: fantasy points to posing wide receivers. They allow I believe 799 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 2: the second most air yards and yards after the catch 800 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: combined to opposing wide receivers and their their cornerback list. 801 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like Vernon Hargreaves or Hard Graves 802 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: was cut last week. They benched Jamal Deane and Ryan Smith, 803 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: guys who deserved to be benched, But only if you 804 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: have other guys who can actually play the position, which 805 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: they don't m J. 806 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: Stewart. 807 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: Their slot corner is injured, so they're starting a rookie 808 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: dime safety Mike Edwards as their slot cornerback. Like, they're 809 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: basically at the point in the season where they're just 810 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: throwing anyone out there and hoping that this guy can 811 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: actually manage not to be the worst player at the 812 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 2: position in the league at that moment. So I love 813 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: the spot for Julio. All right, let's go to the 814 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 2: tight ends here. The three guys at the top of 815 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: our rankings, we have Darren Waller, Zach Ertz, and Mark 816 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 2: Andrews Denny Any thoughts on those guys and anyone else 817 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 2: who are relatively high on. 818 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews freaks me out. I mean, he ran fifteen 819 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: pass routes last week something like that. That pass route 820 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: stuff with Mark Andrews freaks me out as far as 821 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: sustainability goes. But hopefully if it's a neutral kind of 822 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: gamescript game, I think that he could be more involved 823 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: and have more opportunity here. But I just kind of 824 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: hedge on him a little bit. One guy I think, well, 825 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: I'll be playing a lot of this week on DraftKings. 826 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: He's only forty two hundreds Ryan Griffin. In the last 827 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: three games without Chris in the fourth, he has four, 828 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: eight and five targets. Twenty four percent of targets against 829 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: Oakland are two tight ends this year. That's the fifth 830 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: highest rate in the league. And we even saw, you know, 831 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: the ghost of Tyler Eifer catch three passes last week 832 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: against Oakland's a secondary. So I think Ryan Griffin is 833 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: a thing, you know, And we've been talking about him 834 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: on Living the Stream for a while now, and if 835 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: you know, for redraft purposes, he's still out there on 836 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: a lot of way for wires. I really like him 837 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: this week. 838 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 5: Oh we've been talking about it for a while too. 839 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: Oh, we've been talking about longer. We've been talking about 840 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: it for years. We don't even know. 841 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 5: Oh no, no, we actually we are jerks. 842 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 6: We have your podfather Matt Kelly on the pile last 843 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 6: week and he he kind of came out of left 844 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 6: field a little bit, just like a lot of Ryan 845 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 6: Griffin love against the Redskins, and like we were all 846 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 6: just like, what, no, like the best option on the Jets. 847 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 6: And then of course I'm. 848 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: Still sure that he's doing a victory lapse on that. Okay, 849 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: you are high on Ryan Griffin, Sean, you are relatively 850 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 2: high on Nance McDonald. Give me the lowdown. 851 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I have Vance McDonald. I believe tight end 852 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: ten right now, and that's before or that's assuming that 853 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 3: Juju and Deontay suit up this week. So I think 854 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 3: if either one or both those guys ruled out, I mean, 855 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 3: he's gonna shoot way up in my projections. And he's 856 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 3: thirty five hundred and they're at the Bengals. You know, 857 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: I think we'll see a pretty conservative game plan where 858 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 3: they just dump it off to him a ton, and 859 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: the Bengals have been pretty prone to tight end lately. 860 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 3: They've allowed four top fifteen tight end finishes in the 861 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 3: past two games. So I think it's a prime spot 862 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 3: for McDonald. And you know, we should mention tight end 863 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 3: this week is really bad. You know, Kelsey and Hunter 864 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: Henry are on a bye. We might see Kittle, Hooper 865 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 3: and Ingram miss again. And I believe Mark Andrews isn't 866 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: even on the main slate, so this is a pretty 867 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: bad tight end slate. So I think, you know, depending 868 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 3: on the Steelers receiver's health, I think Vance McDonald could 869 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: be a pretty chucky play this week. If they're both out. 870 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: All right, Raybond, within the context of this being a 871 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 2: really thin slate for the position, you are high on 872 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 2: Mike Sicky, give me your thoughts there. 873 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 6: He's got He's got six six targets and three straight 874 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 6: game games. He's obviously since Ryan Fitzpatrick has taken over, 875 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 6: he's he's come alive. You know, he's been relevant. When 876 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 6: Rosen was there, it was it was just you know, 877 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 6: whites out for him. His route participation rate, which you 878 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 6: always like to see for tight ends because the reason. 879 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 5: It's such an ugly slate usually is because. 880 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 6: A lot of these guys are just you know, not 881 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 6: running very many routes or they're not very good. And 882 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 6: Giseki because as Sean mentioned, Preston Williams is on ir. 883 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 6: Gaseki has a real shot when he's running his routes 884 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 6: to you know, be the number two target on that. 885 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 5: Team behind Devonte Parker. 886 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 6: He ran a season high ninety percent of the pass 887 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 6: routes a week ago, and you know, with that kind 888 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 6: of participation, he's going against Cleveland. They're number twenty four 889 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 6: in DVA versus the tight ends, their weakest spot in 890 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 6: terms of DVOA Directionally, is towards the middle of the field, 891 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 6: cornerbacks on the outside. 892 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 5: So funnel a situation. 893 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 6: And then you look at Gaseki's game ones and nothing 894 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 6: really kind of jumps off the page with him. But 895 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 6: he's played Pittsburgh in Buffalo twice in his last six games. 896 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 6: You got to kind of schedule adjust for that just 897 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 6: just a little bit, since we're working with a small 898 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 6: sample here, and I like Giseki a lot, So he's 899 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 6: my number ten tight end this week on again, what's 900 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 6: in a pretty ugly sleep? 901 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 3: All right? 902 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: Speaking of ugly, Cameron Braid had fourteen targets last week, 903 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: thanks in part to the benching of Oj Howard, who 904 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: somehow managed to help Jameis Winston get an interception by 905 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: like shifting the ball behind his back and then popping 906 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: it up into the air. Really one of the most 907 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: athletic plays we've probably seen this year on the football field. 908 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 2: But Cameron Braid is a guy who now seems poised 909 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 2: to get a lot of the tight end work there 910 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: in Tampa Bay. But Denny, you are relatively low on him. 911 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? 912 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: I mean, mostly my thoughts are are we sure that 913 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: they benching the punishment of Oj Howard is going to 914 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: continue into this week and going forward. That's the main thing. 915 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: But the matchup is also on the ugly side. We 916 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: keep talking about ugly. Only eighteen percent of receiving yards 917 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: versus Atlanta have come via the tight end. It's one 918 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: of the lowest rates in the league, and the Falcons 919 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: have held tight ends to less than eight fantasy points 920 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: in all but two games this season. It was Darren 921 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: Fells and I believe one of the Colts tight ends, 922 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: but tight ends have not been targeted and they have 923 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,479 Speaker 1: not produced much at all against the Falcons is pretty 924 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: much every other position until their recent you know, sort 925 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: of defensive resurgence. So yeah, I'm just not interested with 926 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: great this week. 927 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: Sean, just go ahead and keep highlying on Cameron Brad. 928 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: I know that you also dislike him. 929 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just urging caution. He's pretty tempting at thirty 930 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 3: six hundred. Not gonna lie, but I'm not interested in 931 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 3: playing whack them all with the tight end situation for 932 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 3: the Buccaneers, and we have to understand the context. You know, 933 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 3: Chris Godwin and Mike Evans are bull shut down, so 934 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 3: you know Brat and st Miller especially having big games, 935 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 3: you know, we might like them a little bit more 936 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 3: going forward, but we have to we have to temper 937 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 3: our expectations a little bit because Mike Evans and Chris 938 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 3: Gollman aren't going to get shut down both the same 939 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 3: week again. So I think that you know, going for 940 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: maybe Brait or Scott Miller will we'll have some success. 941 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 3: But I'm fading break this week. 942 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 2: All right, Raybond, who are you relatively low on? 943 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Griffith? 944 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 6: No, just kidding, Jerry Graham, And this is I mean, 945 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 6: I don't I don't even think this is news at 946 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 6: this point. But you know, for everyone out there that 947 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 6: kind of you know, looks at the name or maybe 948 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 6: the quarterback. 949 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 5: And you know said, oh, you know this s guy 950 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 5: could stream. 951 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 6: This guy like please don't he's my tight end twenty 952 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 6: three this week, I think you guys are pretty much 953 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 6: in line going up against the San Francisco forty nine 954 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 6: ers in which should be a good game, you know 955 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 6: for us watching, but not a good game for Graham. 956 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 6: The Diners ranked number one in DVOA against the tight 957 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 6: end position. They're allowing only twenty six point two schedule 958 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 6: adjusted yards per game in the tight end. That's first 959 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 6: fight seven point eight yards per game over the next 960 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 6: over the number two teams. So they are just not 961 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 6: giving up much. You know, it's kind of gone overlooked 962 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 6: with how well their cornerbacks are playing but on the outside, 963 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 6: but they're just not giving up, you know, much to 964 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 6: the tight end. 965 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 5: And it's getting later in the year. 966 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 6: This is that time where we're starting to see Giseki 967 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 6: and Noah Fan and er Smith start popping Dallas Goddard 968 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 6: like these young guys. 969 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 5: At the same time, I think you have. 970 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 6: To be careful with guys like Graham and Witten and 971 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 6: start to you know, look at them, look for them 972 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,479 Speaker 6: to wear down. 973 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, give us the tight end prop. 974 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so just giving Rayan Griffin maximum exposure this week 975 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 3: in honor of the Podfather. Let's do Ryan Griffin receiving 976 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 3: yards because we have to. I have his over runer 977 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 3: at thirty seven and a half. 978 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: Under, and I don't even want to have to justify it. 979 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: Just under over over over. 980 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm surprisingly under. 981 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 6: I mean, he's my tight end eleven, but I do 982 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 6: have him a little bit under, so I'll go with them. 983 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 5: Buddel, but he's been popping big plays. I mean, it's 984 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 5: kind of. 985 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 6: A vile top projection. I wouldn't be surprised if he 986 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 6: goes over, but I'm still going with the other. 987 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to a couple of quick Twitter 988 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,919 Speaker 2: questions here, Denny. One for you, the highest team play 989 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 2: of the week. 990 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I have to go back to Adrian Peterson's 991 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: that's a high testosterone play to just plug in, you know, 992 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: the primary early down ball carrier for a team that 993 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: has no interest in passing the ball. I mean, rightfully so, 994 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: because the past game is horrific. It's a nightmare playing 995 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: a running back and on a team that's supposed to see, 996 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, negative game script. 997 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 3: Just do it. 998 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: High t very high tea. 999 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 2: All right, Denny, one more question for you here. What 1000 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 2: are your thoughts on the Colts running backs versus Bo Scarborough. 1001 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: Which one do you think you might be interested in 1002 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: picking up. 1003 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: I think it's Scarborough. I mean, if you're talking about volume, 1004 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,959 Speaker 1: the Colts are talking about time share, we don't really 1005 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: know who's going to get the most opportunity there. I 1006 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 1: think it's a little a little bit of a guessing game, 1007 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: unless unless something has happened in the past you know 1008 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: the hour that says otherwise any news breaking or whatever, 1009 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: but a Scarborough for me. 1010 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Sean, I want to kick it to you. We 1011 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 2: have a question from Colleen Cassidy. What is a defense 1012 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 2: to stash for the playoffs. 1013 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: That's a great question because it shows you're preparing for 1014 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 3: the playoffs. But however, I want to tell you do 1015 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 3: not stash the defense for the playoffs. I think you're 1016 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 3: better off stashing you know, a high upset running back. 1017 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 3: You know that's a backup that could you know inherit 1018 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 3: the starting role if the starting running back goes down. 1019 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 3: I'm a fan of just streaming defense every week, so 1020 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 3: I'm not going to condone you adding a defense to 1021 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 3: have for multiple weeks. So I think the best advice 1022 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 3: is do not stash the defense right now. We'll deal 1023 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 3: with that when the time comes, maybe before week fourteen 1024 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 3: or fifteen. I'll have some preemptive defensive rankings to help 1025 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 3: with that, but it's too soon to do that right now. 1026 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: Raymond, any players to stash or trade for with the 1027 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: playoffs in mind, you know. 1028 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 6: For that person if they who really want a defense, 1029 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 6: and like you talk about trading. 1030 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 5: No, I've said this the whole, Like, the. 1031 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 6: Patriots have two of the best matchups you know, in 1032 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 6: week fifteen and sixteen, so you know right now, you 1033 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 6: know they play at Cincinnati in week fifteen and they 1034 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 6: play Buffalo week sixteen. So a lot of people are 1035 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 6: like anti trading for the Patriots and like all this stuff, 1036 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 6: But you know, if you can trade for them, like 1037 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 6: you can start them in an interim, So it doesn't 1038 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,959 Speaker 6: really matter as far as like status. 1039 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 3: Who would you use to pry the Patriots defense away, Like. 1040 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 6: I would try to do it with like a flex 1041 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 6: type or wide receiver three type or packet deal to 1042 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 6: get the Patriots, because I mean those two matchups for 1043 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 6: that defense in the Fantasy playoffs, if you're kind of set. 1044 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 2: This is like a stereotype. But it's very possible that 1045 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 2: whoever drafted the Patriots did it too early. They think, oh, 1046 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 2: like I have this fantastic asset, I don't want to 1047 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 2: trade them. And they've been getting so much out of 1048 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 2: the Patriots that the Patriots are basically carrying them into 1049 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 2: the playoffs even if the rest of their team is suboptimal, 1050 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 2: because the Patriots have just been so good, so they're 1051 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 2: not going to trade the Patriots. 1052 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 6: You know that's fair, but like you've got to hear, 1053 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 6: like you've got to hear some of the ridiculous we 1054 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 6: bone head a trade that I hear like on the 1055 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 6: radio every week that have gotten made and know like 1056 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,919 Speaker 6: so like I'm just saying for people out there, all 1057 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 6: he could do is try. 1058 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, I want to kick it to you. 1059 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 2: This is a question from Gavin Casper. What do we 1060 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 2: do with Brian Hill? 1061 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 3: Well, if you have Brian Hill, the options are pretty limited, 1062 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 3: and you know Devantae Freeman has a chance or turn 1063 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 3: this week, so that'll make the decision real easy. But 1064 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 3: you know, if Defonte Freeman's out this week, Brian Hill 1065 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 3: is the highest ranked player that you have available to 1066 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 3: put in your story lineup. Just do it, Danny mentioned earlier. 1067 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 3: I think the process itself was solid. He did see 1068 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 3: fifteen to seventeen touches. I believe he had that one 1069 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 3: yard touchdown called back, but the volume should be there. 1070 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 3: This is a brutal matchup for running backs against the Buccaneers, 1071 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 3: so you know, he'll probably lower my rankings this week, 1072 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,479 Speaker 3: but if you have him, you likely add him because 1073 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 3: you're desperate at running back or you had Devonte Freeman, 1074 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 3: so I mean, there's nothing you could do. You can't 1075 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 3: really trade them away for anything. And like I said, 1076 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,879 Speaker 3: Devanta Freeman returns this week. It's pretty easy either bench 1077 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 3: him or drop him. But not many options to have 1078 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 3: with Brian Hill right now. 1079 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 2: All right, Raybond. Final question, This is from Hot Take 1080 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: time Machine. Great Twitter name. By the way, why is 1081 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 2: Miles Sanders so high in PPR? Is he just that 1082 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 2: high under the assumption that Jordan Howard is out? 1083 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 7: Uh? 1084 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 6: No, Actually, so he sees that high because his targets, 1085 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 6: his routes have been ticking up lately. If you look 1086 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 6: over the past six games, he's at right about eleven 1087 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 6: percent target chare. For the season, he's at about nine percent, 1088 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 6: so trending upward. I tend to wait that a little 1089 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 6: bit more, especially in a situation with the Eagles where 1090 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 6: they're just they're really. 1091 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 5: Desperate for pass catchers at this point. 1092 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 6: I mean, we'll see if alshon Jeffery's back, but they 1093 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 6: don't have a lot of explosion, so I think that 1094 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 6: they'll continue to target Miles Sanders in the past game. 1095 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 2: All Right, That is it for the Twitter questions. That's 1096 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 2: it for the show. Denny, thanks for joining us. 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