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Speaker 2: You know you don't do the Bowl championship. That should

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Speaker 2: always be the expectation. All right, man, you go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. Another season in

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Speaker 1: the books, another season about to start.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for it, Mitchell, what.

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Speaker 3: You got, Richard, We're back, We're better than ever. Kick

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Speaker 3: offs next Thursday.

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Speaker 2: My man.

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Speaker 3: This is exciting times in the sports community. It's been

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Speaker 3: a long April, May, June, July, all the training camp talk,

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Speaker 3: we've seen hard knocks. You know. Well, last year, rich

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Speaker 3: we kicked this off with a little season preview, and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go right back to that because we were

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Speaker 3: right about some but we were all so wrong about

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Speaker 3: a few things. Let's kick it off in the AFC East,

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Speaker 3: rich Who do you like coming out of this division?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's gonna end up being one of

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Speaker 1: the best divisions in football. Obviously. I like my guy

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Speaker 1: Robert Salah and the j E. T. S Jets Jests Jets.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do great in his division this

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Speaker 1: year with a Rod and the new additions that they

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Speaker 1: the fold, Randall Cobb his veteran presidence, Sauce Gardner, DJ

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Speaker 1: Quinn Williams just got his got paid. Jermaine Johnson, he's

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Speaker 3: Well, I know you like the Jets. I mean, what

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Speaker 3: is the peak of this team? I mean, do you

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Speaker 3: truly view them coming out of the AFC East beating

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Speaker 3: out the Bills? I mean the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I truly believe that they'll beat him out.

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Speaker 1: You know, if it wasn't for Dak Prescott, you know,

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Speaker 1: throwing fifteen interceptions in twelve games, you would have really

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Speaker 1: been talking about how Josh Allen through nineteen interceptions last season.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's been trending in the wrong direction. The

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Speaker 1: the team down the stretch, especially, and I think they

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Speaker 2: They got lucky.

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Speaker 1: The Jets didn't have the quarterbacks to beat them last year,

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Speaker 1: and they will. You know, you get no situations where

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Speaker 1: with al and I think that's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think the Miami Dolphins, with the addition of Vic Fangio,

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Speaker 1: it's it's Jalen Ramsey's going to start the season on

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Speaker 1: pup and then you got questions about if Tool can

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Speaker 3: Well, Rich, you saying that is gonna is gonna raise

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Speaker 3: They got a top five quarterback in the league and

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Speaker 3: But Rich, what is it gonna take for Buffalo to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's gonna take Josh Allen being efficient

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Speaker 1: You hear rubblings right now about his his discontent. So

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Speaker 1: I think they've got to play better defensively as well.

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Speaker 1: They got big time playmakers. They they have everything you need.

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Speaker 3: They're going to have to establish a running game too,

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Speaker 3: because that's something that's been lacking for the last several years.

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Speaker 3: Let James Cook Cook to say the least. I mean,

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Speaker 3: are we punning on the Patriots all together? Here is

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Speaker 3: this is this is Bill Belichick's magic just gone now.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not going. They just don't have a

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Speaker 1: decisions have left things to be questioned as well. You know,

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Speaker 1: Don't see them making very much of an impact if

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, a Rod taking the crown and the AFC East.

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Speaker 3: with the Bengals. I mean, there's some question marks about

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Speaker 1: And this offensive line, they got Orlando Brown, but they

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Speaker 1: They played a little better last year than they had

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are right there on their heels. Lamar Jackson's

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Speaker 1: Seeing on the other side, Justin Houston is gone, Marcus

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Speaker 1: He'll he'll obviously to be the best receiver Lamar has

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Speaker 3: Well, let's not forget about the last two in this division.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers, I mean this to me, is a team

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to see them winning the division,

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Speaker 1: but it's obvious to see them having a losing record.

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Speaker 1: Saying that, Mike Tomlin has never had a losing record

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Speaker 2: Career, and so I think they're going to do well.

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Speaker 1: I think Kenny Pickett had a really great preseason, but

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Speaker 1: I think George Pickens is going to be a pro

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Speaker 3: Let's move over to the NFC Rich last year we

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Speaker 3: of this division?

434
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Speaker 2: Who do you like? Well?

435
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: I gotta like the Philadelphia Eagles. There's nothing that has

436
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 1: changed for me to not like them. They lost y

437
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: Von Hargrave to the San Francisco forty nine ers, and

438
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that later in the show,

439
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: because my goodness, is that abundance of riches?

440
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 2: Uh? But then they added Jalen Carter.

441
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 1: Jenen Carter had his incident, his his his his his

442
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: driving racing incident, you know, and that that he's been

443
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: charged for, and he fell in the draft.

444
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 2: He was he was most of the year the consensus

445
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: number one pick.

446
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 1: He was a consensus number one pick, I mean all

447
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: the way, probably up until a couple of weeks before

448
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 1: the draft or when that incident happened. And then you

449
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: got a situation where you're like, okay, I know he's

450
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 1: not going to fall to Seattle, and Seattle decided to

451
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: go with uh Weather Weatherspoon Devin Witherspoon, and it was like, Okay,

452
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: I know he's not going to fall further than that.

453
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: He fell all the way to the Eagles. And of

454
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: course the Eagles have a lot of Georgia guys. They

455
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: had a drafted Georgia guy in the first round the

456
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: year before. They got a ton of Georgia guys. They

457
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: drafted a couple in this draft. And it's a perfect spot.

458
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: They got veterans and Brandon Graham and Fletcher Cox, who

459
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: can who can help this guy mature and help help

460
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,959
Speaker 1: just big brother and and and mentor this guy and

461
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: mentor all the guys, you know, because they got Nolan

462
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: Smith too on that D line. And it's just you

463
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: got Hassan Reddick, and you got Nolan Smith, and you

464
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: got Javon Hargraves, and you got all these guys that

465
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: already had. Josh Sweat had what eleven sacks last year.

466
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: You got so many guys, it's such an abundance of riches.

467
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna continue to be that. And then, oh my god,

468
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: let's get back to the offensive side of the ball.

469
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: And you got so many playmakers, so many playmakers then

470
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: they got DeAndre Swift, who's who was really good in Detroit,

471
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: who nobody really knew about because he was in Detroit,

472
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: And now you're gonna see him every week in Philly,

473
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: and people were gonna be he's probably gonna be a

474
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: pro bowler this year in that offense with the other

475
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: guys that they have, and all day always open aj

476
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: Brown like what are you going to do with him?

477
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: And then you got Davonte Smith, who's who everybody has

478
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: been raving about all training camp. And then you got

479
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: to two corners all pro and James Bradberry and the

480
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: pro bowler and Darius Slay. They lost CJ. Gardner Johnson,

481
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: but they're still the class of this division.

482
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Speaker 3: I know you've heard a lot about them now that

483
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: you're sitting across from Skip Bayless on Undisputed the Dallas Cowboys.

484
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about them.

485
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 3: I know you don't, but the nation wants to hear

486
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 3: about it. Rich because do you want me to start

487
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: a beat for you?

488
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: Metell? Metroll?

489
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Metroll, Just just do what you gotta do, because we

490
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm waiting for the I asked a little

491
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: Wayne if we can get in the Booth about it,

492
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: and he said he's gonna get back to me. So

493
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 1: but they're gonna do what they've always done.

494
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: You know.

495
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: They get everybody excited during the preseason or the regular season,

496
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: all the hype train. Even when they got some of

497
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: the best players in the National Football League, You're like,

498
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is a year.

499
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: And then they get to the Divisional and.

500
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Something crazy happens, whether it's a coaching decision, the ref

501
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: didn't get out of the way and spot the ball.

502
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: They just run into the San Francisco forty nine ers

503
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: and they're a better team. Deaz caught it, Dez didn't

504
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: catch it, whatever it is. They find a way to

505
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: the division when they go home. And so they got

506
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. That's the big news right now, but it's

507
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: not really relevant to this season. I don't think it's relevant.

508
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: I think Prescott's the guy for at least the next

509
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: couple of years. Tony Pollard's a feature. Now, how is

510
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: that going to go. Everybody's hype on him. You were

511
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: hype on him last year.

512
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 3: Metroll early before the right about this time last year.

513
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: Right right, and you made the great point of what

514
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: you thought he was gonna be and he was. He

515
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: was an elite playmaker, was a pro bowler. But he's

516
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: coming off an jury, major injury, and it's hard to

517
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: really anticipate what he's gonna be coming off as a

518
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: major injury into his first season as the feature back.

519
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 2: He doesn't they don't have Zeke to split the carries with.

520
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to take the brunt of the work

521
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to deal with weekend and week

522
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: out twenty twenty five carries and some catches and just

523
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's running back to a tough position. But that's

524
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: why they have him. I just I mean, I'm I'm

525
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: excited for him. I think they got playmakers. They brought

526
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: in Brandon Cooks, who's a walking thousand yards everywhere regardless

527
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: of where he goes. I think he's much better. I

528
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: think Stefan Gilmour is a huge, huge addition to that defense.

529
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

530
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: I think Kellen Moore being gone. I just didn't understand

531
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: that from either side. I thought they had a pretty

532
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: good relationship. They led the league in scoring and they

533
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: were always a really good offense with Kellen Moore, and

534
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great with the Chargers. But now Mike

535
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: McCarthy's back to calling plays, and I just don't know

536
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: how I feel about that, but I guess if you're

537
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: gonna have your job on the line, you're gonna go

538
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: out on your own sword.

539
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: And that's what Mike McCarthy's saying.

540
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: Well, is there any hope for the Giants or the Commanders.

541
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some hope for the Giants. Daniel Jones has

542
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: to step up and play well. Jalen Hyatt has been

543
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: really good in the preseason, a lot of speed, and

544
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has a big arm. Dave Bowl's a great coach.

545
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: I think that's been understood. There's playmakers on the defensive

546
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Dorry Jackson and started to come

547
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: on late. Dexter Lawrence. You already know what he's about.

548
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: And so I mean there's a chance they played really

549
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: well at times and then at times you just they

550
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: left you scratching your head, especially Daniel Jones.

551
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: But he got his money and we'll see, you know.

552
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: They have a lot of question marks, Say Kwon Barkley,

553
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: coming off his best season of his career, can he

554
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: show that he's worth the money. He's on a one

555
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: year proven deal again and he plays well this year.

556
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: I think he's going to get a big payday. So

557
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll see. They added some more talent with

558
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: Deontay Banks defensively, but they just have to show it.

559
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about it, but they got

560
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: to show it.

561
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Richard, you're calling the Eagles and this is

562
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 3: a crazy staff for you. There hasn't been a repeat

563
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: division champ since two thousand and four, so you're saying

564
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 3: they're going to break that little curse here the Eagles

565
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: to win. Per mister Richard Sherman. I want to move

566
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: to my personal favorite topic of this segment, my conference,

567
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: the NFC North.

568
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Then you go for it, Mitchell, Richard, if you.

569
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: Don't recall after that Thanksgiving game that the Lions gave

570
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills hell in Ford Field. They lost, but

571
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: I told you afterwards, this is going to be the

572
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: turning point of this season. Now, I'm not right about everything,

573
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: but I'm right about a couple of things. One being

574
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: totally pollared, two being the Detroit Lions eight and two

575
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 3: down the stretch, Richard, they have not won the division

576
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: in decades. Do you think the Detroit Lions will come

577
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: out on top of the NFC North this year.

578
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it one further.

579
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: I think they find a way to come out on

580
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: the top of the NFC North, and I think they

581
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: find a way to win a playoff game for the

582
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: first time.

583
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: Mitchell in your lifetime.

584
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: So second time. Rich I was four years old when

585
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: they won last time. So that was a happy day

586
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: in my life, really happy day.

587
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: The first one that you will be able to remember

588
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: and celebrate with a nice brew. I think that the

589
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: Vikings benefited from very close games last year and just

590
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the ball bounces that way.

591
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's no shot against them. They did well.

592
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: I think Justin Jefferson had an outstanding year, Player of

593
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: the Year candidate, MVP candidate the entire year. Kirk had

594
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: a really good season. Kirk's playing on a gont to

595
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: prove it year. You know, this is a contract year

596
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: for Kirk. They have to find a way. Dalvin Cook

597
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: is out of there, and Dalvin Cook has been a

598
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: mainstay for them for a long time.

599
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: What does that look like.

600
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: They added Byron Murphy to that defense, Marcus Davenport to

601
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: sofy that pass rush, but you lose Dalvin Cook, Patrick Peterson,

602
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: Eric Hendricks, Eric Kendricks, who's been there for a long

603
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: time since I've been in the league, And what does

604
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: that look like? There are so many unknowns. Kevin O'Connell

605
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: has done a great job with that offense. But I

606
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: think people are starting to adjust. I'm sure Lafloor is

607
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: adjusting and green Bay and they have to with Jordan Love.

608
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: But this is the year that I think the Lions

609
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: take the next step.

610
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: They had a lot of momentum at the at the

611
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, they beat green Bay

612
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: in a situation where green Bay needed that win to

613
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs and Seattle had had who had

614
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: won earlier, so all they had to do was win

615
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: their game, and they go to the playoffs and they

616
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: got beat. They got beat by that giant, that Lion's

617
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 1: team who everybody said I wouldn't play hard, and they

618
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: played hard and they won.

619
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: They got really good receivers.

620
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: Your boy Saint Brown, I'm unraw it's done out Rich

621
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: the sudden guy. He's developed into a really good receiver.

622
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 1: They have a really strong one. Jamison Williams gets off

623
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: this suspension for this freaking gambling. My goodness, is the

624
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: stupidest thing I've ever heard of, Guys gambling on non

625
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: NFL games getting suspended for six games.

626
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: I mean, goodness, don't get me started on that.

627
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: But Jamar Gibbs, it has been all we've heard is

628
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: fantastic things about him all training camp. He's giving everybody problems,

629
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: the Lions problems. He's giving problems in joint practices as

630
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: a receiver, as a running back.

631
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: It's going to be great. But they did lose Jamal Williams.

632
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: Who led the league in touchdowns last year, and they

633
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: did lose DJ Chark. But I think they can whether

634
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: that storm CJ. Gardner Johnson who was co leader of

635
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: in the NFL with six interceptions by boy Emanuel Moseley

636
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: at the corner. So they are going to be really

637
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: solid on defense. On paper, it looks like they're going

638
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: to be a really solid defense. I got to win

639
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: in that division.

640
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: What do you expect out of the Packers? Aaron Rodgers

641
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: is gone, This is Jordan Love's time, this is we

642
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: saw this twenty years ago. Almost Brett far It seems

643
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: like the Jets, right or where do you go to

644
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: the Vikings or the Jets or one of the two

645
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: now Aaron Rodgers doing the same thing, man, and this

646
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: is opened up the door for Jordan Love. He's looked

647
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: good in preseason. I'm not gonna lie, man. I'm a

648
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: little scared because having to endear the Packers being dominant

649
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: at the top of this division for the entirety of

650
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: my life, I think they deserve to come back down

651
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: to earth a little bit here, at least for a

652
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: couple two three years.

653
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: Man.

654
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens with them.

655
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, they just lost so much.

656
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: They lost not only just a rodd they lost Lazard,

657
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: they lost Cobb, they lost a lot of players defensively,

658
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: they still have a lot of continuities to have great players.

659
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: But it's going to be up to Jordan Love. Obviously,

660
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: the Packers believe he can be the replacement, but it's

661
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: a one year deal he's on, and so regardless of

662
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: how he does, I think the Packers are going to

663
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: have to resign him or they're going to have to

664
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: go into mediocrity. And they won't play bad enough to

665
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: be top five, top ten pick, but will they play

666
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: well enough to warrant him getting a thirty five forty

667
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: million dollar deal, that's the question. And I don't have

668
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: that answer. I don't know if Jordan Love is guy.

669
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: We haven't seen enough of him. But we're about to

670
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: find out whether he's a guy or not, and whether

671
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: he is or not, just like Daniel Jones' contract, he's

672
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: gonna still be in starting quarterback in the National Football League?

673
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: Are you going to have to restart? So Green Bay

674
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: is going to have to make that decision probably halfway

675
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: through the season.

676
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: Rich NFC South, now, we talked about the nfcast last

677
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: year is the dumpster fire division there. We call the

678
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: NFC South the dumpster fire Division this year because I

679
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: feel like.

680
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: There's it's hard. It's hard. It's hard.

681
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: Young quarterbacks for the Panthers and Falcons, rookie quarterback for

682
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: the Panthers, and a rookie quarterback that's gonna be really

683
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: good in Bryce Young and and you hear nothing but

684
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: positive things. Frank Wright is a good coach and has

685
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: been respected. They got Adam Thieven, Von Bell, Miles Sanders

686
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: who was really good in Philly, d J. Chark who

687
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: was who was with your Lions. But I just don't know, man,

688
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: I just don't I can't see them doing well. That

689
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: offensive line has been too poor us especially in the preseason.

690
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: They couldn't stop anybody, couldn't stop anybody from getting to

691
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and he got beat up a little bit there.

692
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: And then you got the Saints. They got Derek Carr.

693
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: They got big Mike Back, they got good receivers, Jarvis

694
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: is coming back, Jamal Williams is there now. They should

695
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: be pretty solid. I think the Saints win that division

696
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: just because they got the best quarterback play of the

697
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: guys that are in here. The Bucks just got Baker

698
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Mayfield and he's got a lot to prove. He's on

699
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: a four million dollar deal, which doesn't, you know, speak

700
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: to a lot of confidence in him. But it's a

701
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: it's a it's a solid bet for the Tampa Bay

702
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: Buccaneers if he can do it. You know, he has

703
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans are walking thousand yards

704
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: and you know, Todd Bowles defensively is gonna make it shake.

705
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna put pressure on guys, especially in division. So

706
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: we'll see.

707
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: But we talked about it too, Rich. I mean, we

708
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: feel like Tampa's the most slept on team going into

709
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: the season. I think everyone's kind of written them off

710
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: with Tom Brady going down and retiring now venturing in

711
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: the NFL ownership. Baker is one of those guys. I

712
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: don't think he's the most widely liked player in the league,

713
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: but he's a good game manager. We saw what he

714
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: did with in LA, you know, walking off the plane

715
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: and winning that Monday night game or Thursday night game,

716
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: whatever game that was against the Raiders. I mean, he

717
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: can do it. And who's to say. I mean, they

718
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: got outstanding weapons in the wide receiving room. You know,

719
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: they got a young running back. I know you questioned

720
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: their old line, but rich this Bucks team, they could

721
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 3: be dangerous too. If Baker does his thing.

722
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think he's best when he's playing

723
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: without expectations, without the pressure of expectations and the burden

724
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: of expectations, and this team doesn't happen. And I don't

725
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: think anybody's sitting there saying, hey, Baker's going to light

726
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: the world on fire. He's not getting commercial deals, he's

727
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: not getting endorsement deals. He's going to get to play

728
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: very free, and I think that's the best spot for

729
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: him to be playing free.

730
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: They'll sneak up on some teams and ruin some days

731
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: for sure.

732
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: Last, but not least, the Richard Sherman Conference the NFC West.

733
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: I know you've got allegiance to both teams. Two teams

734
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: in this division, the Niners the Seahawks both are looking

735
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: really good. Who do you like coming out of the

736
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: West this year?

737
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: I like the San Francisco forty nine Ers until otherwise,

738
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: Brod Perdy hasn't lost the game that he has started

739
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: and finished to this day, and so I don't expect

740
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: that to happen. Obviously, they need to get Nicholas john Bosa,

741
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: the reigning defensive Player of the Year, signed immediately. But

742
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: unless something crazy and drastic happens with that situation, I

743
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: expect their defense to be really strong. With the addition

744
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: of Javon Hargras from the Philadelphia Eagles, who had a

745
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: tremendous season last year, and then you got Fred Warder

746
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: and Talanoah Hufanga Diamador Lenora on one side, Tavarious ward

747
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: on the other. Defensively, they're going to be really solid.

748
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead is still there on the offensive side. They

749
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: got some question marks on the interior d line with

750
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: Buford and the center situation is up in flux. Mckivitt's

751
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: at the right tackle obviously the Pro Bowler, All Pro

752
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, best tackle in football. On the left side,

753
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk is poised for a really great year, contract year,

754
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: and it's time for him to put on the show

755
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: and have his time. All Debo has been talking about

756
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: is how much he let the team down last season,

757
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: so he has a chip on his shoulder coming in.

758
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: And then you got Christian McCaffrey coming off a full offseason,

759
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: a full season with the team to learn to take playbook,

760
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: to acclimate, to be comfortable in the space, and I

761
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be really comfortable and really happy in

762
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: the space. I'm excited to see what he's gonna do

763
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: with a full season under his belt. So there's a

764
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: lot of hope uh in San Francisco, But there's a

765
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: lot of hope in Seattle as well because the Genos

766
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: Geno known Pro Bowl season, looking to have an even

767
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: better season with with d K and Tyler. Then you

768
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: got JSN from Ohio State who's been nothing but really dynamic.

769
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: He has the risk injury right now, but all signs

770
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: point to him making him back for Week one, So

771
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: it's going to be an exciting time for them. Gino

772
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: set a number of records. I expect him to break

773
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: a number of the records this year, went to the

774
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: playoffs last year.

775
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: I expect that to continue.

776
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: They got to finally got a defensive leader back, a

777
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: legend in this franchise, Bobby Wagner, a legend in the

778
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: league and all his All pros and his accolades and

779
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: everything he brings to the football team. Tariqu wooland obviously

780
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: we talked about Devin Witherspoon, who they got in a

781
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: fifth pick of the first round. He's going to be

782
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: coming off injury, probably not looking like he's playing Week one,

783
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: but he'll help them throughout the season. Quandre Diggs and

784
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: then Julian Love and Julian Love. When Quandre Diggs back there,

785
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: that's going to make one of the best safety tandems

786
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Both very smart, smart playmaking safeties, reliable,

787
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: can be interchangeable at any time. And then they're getting

788
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: Jamal back. Jamal Adams is going to be back this season.

789
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: They He'll have a new role with the team and

790
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: a new role with that defense and they'll put him

791
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: in positions to be successful.

792
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: Well, Richard, I've watched a lot of Seattle Seahawks football

793
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: over the years, obviously working with you for a decade plus.

794
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: Now after the legion of boom was gone, and that

795
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: nasty visit to Arizona, you with your Achilles cam with

796
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: his neck. You know, the Seattle Seahawks went through a

797
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: murky territory of a couple of years where they to me,

798
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: seems like they were missing an identity. Is done now

799
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: is rediscover their identity. I mean they've got a trio

800
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: of wideouts and DK and Tyler and JSN. Now and

801
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: if you guys don't know about JSN, I advise you

802
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: to watch one game, and that is the Rose Bowl

803
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 3: game against the utah Utes. JSN put on an absolute clinic.

804
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: And to me, I think you should have gone above

805
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: Chris Olave if he was in the same draft as him,

806
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: you know, probably neck and neck with Garrett Wilson, all

807
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: Ohio State guys. So Seattle is about to be really nasty,

808
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: rich And I know that you know that too. And

809
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: I think the Niners are gonna be in a battle

810
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 3: for that top of the division. And I think We're

811
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: going to see some fights of old between these two teams.

812
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, definitely.

813
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: Division games are always tough, and I think the division

814
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: games between the San Francisco forty nine Ers and the

815
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks are going to be. Oh, they're going to

816
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: be Glady eating, They're going to be Goliath, and I'm

817
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing those games.

818
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: It will be a lot of fun.

819
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: Rich before we exit the division. I want to ask

820
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 3: you one thing about the Rams. You know, it came

821
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: out Matthew Stafford in trouble connecting with the younger players

822
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: on his team. I mean, what do you make of this?

823
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously it came from his wife's podcast, but

824
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's kind of a big thing, especially

825
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: from the quarterback, the leader of your team to be,

826
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: you know, I guess silently saying this through his wife.

827
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: What do you make of that?

828
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it was unfortunate that she said that. I'm

829
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: sure she knows that locker room talk should should not

830
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: be especially I mean, bedroom talk shouldn't be talked about

831
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: in the public. And you know, I mean she said that,

832
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: she says she regretted it. Worst things she could do.

833
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: She says she's talked about women when they made headlines

834
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: talking about football and their husbands, and it's a distraction.

835
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: But I think it'll end up galvanizing the team. I

836
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: think Sean mcvale use it as a joke. The young

837
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: guys will will probably react well and and start to

838
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: come together and support their teammate and get off their

839
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: phones a little bit because he probably shouldn't be on

840
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: them that much anyway.

841
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's that big a deal.

842
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: Well, all rich, So that's that we've We've locked in

843
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 3: the divisional winners. I want to talk about playoffs. Now,

844
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: who do you think is going to be coming out

845
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: of the AFC and who's coming out of the NFC.

846
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: Outd AFC this year.

847
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's you got to go with

848
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs as your your obvious pick, but my

849
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: sleeper pick will be the jay et Se Jets.

850
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: Jets.

851
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they can put it all

852
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: together in the first year of a rod, you know.

853
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: I think they make a really fun run and make

854
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: it exciting. But I think the Kansas City Chiefs will

855
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: end up coming out of the AFC again. Joe Burrow

856
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: will have something to say about that, but you know,

857
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: hopefully they can keep him up right more this year.

858
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: But Kansas City is a safe fit.

859
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: And how about the NFC?

860
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: The NFC, I got the Niners. I got the Niners

861
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: finally pulling it off and doing it for Kyle a

862
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: gain the first time since twenty nineteen, which isn't that

863
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: long ago, but pulling it off this year, having good health,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of playmakers, and that d Lion

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Speaker 1: being as ferocious and as aggressive as ever and causing

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Speaker 1: a lot of problems for a lot of teams.

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Speaker 3: Who is your Super Bowl champion? We got the nine

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Speaker 3: against the Chiefs, a matchup we've seen before, Richard. Can

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Speaker 3: the Niners pull this one off?

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Speaker 1: I think the Niners finally find a way to get

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Speaker 1: it done this time. I think they find a way

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Speaker 1: to get make plays down the stretch and contain Pat

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Speaker 1: Mahomes the way they did for three and a quarter

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Speaker 1: quarters in the Super Bowl in twenty nineteen. They can

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Speaker 1: finally close the door and finish that, and Kyle can

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Speaker 1: get a lot of his haters off his back.

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Speaker 3: Your MVP pick on the season.

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Speaker 2: My MVP pick on the season. That's tough.

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Speaker 1: It's always the quarterbacks. He's staying quarterbacks. This was to

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Speaker 1: take the quarterbacks out of it. Joe Burrow wins his first.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how about Defensive Player of the Year?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Is it?

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Speaker 3: Nicholas John Bosa.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be in it.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell I have a hard time thinking it's going to

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Speaker 1: be any different. I mean, hopefully he comes into the

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Speaker 1: season ready and in shape. This contract situation is the

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Speaker 1: only thing that I could see changing my opinion about

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Speaker 1: that because them having Javon Hargraves and still Eric Armstead,

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to double Nicholas John Bosa

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Speaker 1: the way they would want to. That D line is

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Speaker 1: going to be too ferocious. But Micah Parsons will also

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Speaker 1: be in that discussion as he has been. They're saying

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Speaker 1: he's playing more defensive line exclusively. So Nicholas John Bosa,

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Speaker 1: Mitchell I gotta go, Nicholas John Bosa. Gotta support your guys.

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Speaker 3: Every year we see it. Every year there's a worse

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Speaker 3: to first. I mean every year there's a team that

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Speaker 3: just comes out of nowhere. I mean the Eagles last

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Speaker 3: year making it all the way to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Is there a team that you see that is going

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Speaker 3: to be is going to shock the shock the landscape

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Speaker 3: of the NFL. Who's your surprise team?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's not a surprise because everybody's saying it,

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Speaker 1: but there they're gonna be a team that didn't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs last year and we're under five hundred, the

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Speaker 1: Jets that made a way into it. I think a

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Speaker 1: team that could potentially makes it noise just because they're

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Speaker 1: in a really bad division and and you know they

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Speaker 1: can shake some stuff up young quarterback. Maybe the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: just because that division is so bad, Demiico Ryans coming in.

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Speaker 1: They got a really good left tackle. They have some

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Speaker 1: playmakers there to do some things, especially defensively. Derek Stingley

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Speaker 1: has shown real growth this season. Played a full season

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Speaker 1: last year and played really solid, and I think he

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Speaker 1: takes the next step this year.

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Speaker 2: So there's talent on both sides.

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Speaker 1: Of the ball for that team, and I think they

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Speaker 1: can sneak up on some people and just you know,

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Speaker 1: not worse the first or anything crazy like their playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but I think it'll be a lot different than what

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Speaker 1: people were expecting from them.

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Speaker 3: And finally, before we wrap it rich every week last

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Speaker 3: year we had your Richard Sherman Power Rankings. You rank

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Speaker 3: the top five teams in the NFL. Who's on it

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Speaker 3: going into Week one?

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Speaker 1: You got to go to Kansas City, they won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Philly, San Francisco. That's when it gets interesting. Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say Dallas. I hated to do it.

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Speaker 1: I hate it right. I don't have enough NFC teams

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Speaker 1: in it right now. Mitchell, the Jets, Mitchell, the Jets,

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Speaker 1: jay E t Yes, yes, yes, yes, that five.

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Speaker 3: You know what I like about that, rich is My

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Speaker 3: Lions are gonna knock off your number one power rank

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Speaker 3: team Week one.

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Speaker 2: Book it, rich Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: The Lions are going to go into the Kingdom, whatever

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Speaker 3: the heck they call it over there, and they're gonna

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Speaker 3: absolutely shock the world Week one, Rich book it, book it.

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Speaker 3: That is my that is my hot take. That is

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Speaker 3: my call. This year I called Tony polar last year,

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Speaker 3: I'm calling it night. It's gonna be an early season

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Speaker 3: hot take. The Lions are gonna exit Week one. Want

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Speaker 3: to oh, and they're gonna be in Richard's top five

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Speaker 3: power ranks.

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Speaker 1: Don't do, Mitchell, We'll we'll have to put them in

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Speaker 1: just off the strength Mitchelle they have to be just

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Speaker 1: off the hype.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Richard, I'll let you wrap this up for us

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Speaker 3: in our preseason I guess what do we want to

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Speaker 3: call this?

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Speaker 1: Rich preseason preview on the Richard Truman Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for joining us. We appreciate you. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you next week. The volume