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Speaker 1: one week out from this year's drafting. With the craziness
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Speaker 1: studio day Hetfrey below me, you've got David Hellman and
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Speaker 1: down in the Kat Fun Layer. I'm Kyle Yeoman's and
Speaker 1: so glad you're with us, and so we're gonna get
Speaker 1: things kind of going pretty early we want to get
Speaker 1: through seven rounds of mock drafts. Then we want to
Speaker 1: also go through some trade scenarios in a mock draft.
Speaker 1: Later on a free round mock that we kind of
Speaker 1: put together as well. But David Hellman, you're the expert
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to the Dallas Cowboys draft and you're
Speaker 1: talking about hours and hours of watching film. All of
Speaker 1: you guys are, I mean, including myself. But at the
Speaker 1: same time you put together the seven round mock, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hand things off to you. This is a big moment.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you run the ship for a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's gonna look you. I'm I'm feeling a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure right now because it was once the illustrious day
Speaker 1: in Brugler's responsibility to put this together. He did a
Speaker 1: fantastic job with it every year. And it's not easy
Speaker 1: because there's no way to one hundred percent simulate what's
Speaker 1: going to happen in an NFL draft. We all know that,
Speaker 1: but I spent a few hours playing around with it.
Speaker 1: I did my best. So with you, with y'all's help,
Speaker 1: let's try to deliver something that resembles an accurate draft.
Speaker 1: So let's just get into it without a lot of fanfare.
Speaker 1: We don't have that much time. First round of the
Speaker 1: draft underway. To some degree, it's not so surprising. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow is gonna go number one, Chase Young's gonna go
Speaker 1: number two. We all think Detroit would probably not mind
Speaker 1: getting out of that pick. But if they can't, Jeff Okuda,
Speaker 1: some offensive tackles are going to fly off the board.
Speaker 1: Three quarterbacks are going to come off the board, Effrey,
Speaker 1: you'd be devastated to know. Derek Brown in this scenario
Speaker 1: lasts all the way to pick thirteen before San Francisco
Speaker 1: snatches him up to fill that hole where they traded
Speaker 1: Dip Flores Buckner, c. J. Henderson. Another very devastating pick
Speaker 1: goes fourteen to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Javon Kinlaw, another
Speaker 1: one to Denver. So, guys, the Cowboys seem to like
Speaker 1: flying off the board left and right, pick number seventeen.
Speaker 1: What if I tell you this all of this, most
Speaker 1: of the familiar suspects are there. You got Calevan Chason,
Speaker 1: you got Patrick Queen, Kenneth Murray, Denzel Mims, Caesar Ruiz,
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, Trevon Diggs. One curveball for you. McKay Beckton
Speaker 1: has fallen all the way to pick number seventeen. Highly
Speaker 1: talented guy. Maybe his rawness throws some people off. I
Speaker 1: would be awfully surprised if that actually happens. But it's
Speaker 1: an interesting thought process where offensive tackle is arguably the
Speaker 1: best player available, but not a position the Cowboys needs
Speaker 1: so much. So with all of those options laid out
Speaker 1: for you, both of the safeties are there, the edge
Speaker 1: players there, the linebackers are there. Christian Fulton and C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson are not there, But Jeff Gladney is. I don't
Speaker 1: know what do y'all want to do here? Oh that's easy. See,
Speaker 1: this is Captain trade down riding into town. Baby, let
Speaker 1: somebody come get McKay Baton, get on out of there.
Speaker 1: Somebody wants this first linebacker, get on out of there.
Speaker 1: I will tell you that is a very Now go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'll say I'm going to be the dissenting voice on
Speaker 1: the Kay Levon Chaise song because I think that's become
Speaker 1: the popular pick, and I'll be okay if that's the
Speaker 1: pick because of the uptide. But I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: over here and pretend that this isn't a boomerbuts pick
Speaker 1: with Klevon chaise on. Nine games into the season, dude
Speaker 1: had two sacks. He has left the ten sacks and
Speaker 1: his rear at LSU to pretend this is some sure thing.
Speaker 1: I just I will not be a party today pretending
Speaker 1: that that's a sure thing. I'll be a party to
Speaker 1: being excited about the upside. But if I had to
Speaker 1: pick a player there, I would either pick McKay Beckton
Speaker 1: just because he's the best player and just I don't
Speaker 1: know how it plays out, but it's the best player.
Speaker 1: Or I would pick Kenneth Murray. If you were to
Speaker 1: go McKay Beckton here, what would be a scenario with
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith overall? Because I mean, you've got Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: on one side, then you've got Tyren Smith on another side.
Speaker 1: What are you saying about Smith and about this entire
Speaker 1: offensive line if you go ahead and select McKay Beckton
Speaker 1: at this I think you're saying that you're getting ready
Speaker 1: to field calls, whether it's now or a year from now.
Speaker 1: I think. But I think that's the thing that people
Speaker 1: kind of ignore in sports because you like your favorite players.
Speaker 1: I like Tyrn Smith and he's still very good, and
Speaker 1: he'll probably be very good for five more years. But
Speaker 1: you have injury concerns. You've got a back situation that's
Speaker 1: not going to go away. So if you had something
Speaker 1: fall in your lap, then the best gms and sports
Speaker 1: are ruthless. They don't care about their players. They care
Speaker 1: about building a winner. So if the best player available,
Speaker 1: and in this case, McKay Beckton would be the only
Speaker 1: guy on the board for me that has the first
Speaker 1: round grade where I'm not cheating, it's not a one two,
Speaker 1: it's the first round grade. So I would have to
Speaker 1: acknowledge to myself and my team that I'm going away
Speaker 1: to a different tier of player on perfect and I
Speaker 1: think that that may not be wise. What do you
Speaker 1: think the sake of the conversation, Now, go ahead, Katy, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dave, real quick, I want to ask you
Speaker 1: guys for the sake of the conversation, just for a minute,
Speaker 1: Let's say, Okay, I really don't want to take an
Speaker 1: offensive player. I want to go defense. Do you have
Speaker 1: Chase on grade at higher than Kenneth Murray and Patrick Queen?
Speaker 1: I do not. I don't either. Actually I have him
Speaker 1: higher than Queen, I don't have him higher than her.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Murray. Overall, I have Chason graded higher than Murray.
Speaker 1: I have Queen graded higher than Chason. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: it's a classic example. Last time I was on a show,
Speaker 1: we had a debate about cornerback verse safety. Like, if
Speaker 1: you think Xavier McKinney is a better overall prospect than
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton, does that outweigh the fact that having a
Speaker 1: good cornerback is more valuable than having a good safety.
Speaker 1: I think, even if Chason doesn't have as good of
Speaker 1: a grade as one of the linebackers, it's such a
Speaker 1: more valuable position. And I know you get in trouble
Speaker 1: doing that, but I like, I can find off ball
Speaker 1: linebackers somewhere else, right, Like we had this debate about
Speaker 1: Layton vandersch and to their defense, like that looks like
Speaker 1: a pretty solid pick, depending on his health. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it's harder to find good edge rushers than good linebackers. Man,
Speaker 1: you have a good upple corners there too. I mean
Speaker 1: we talked about Jeff Gladney. I know, Kat, you're really
Speaker 1: high on Jeff Gladney. He's your number two corner over
Speaker 1: c j Henderson and then you've got Christian Fulton there
Speaker 1: as well. So I mean, the way the board lies,
Speaker 1: you have your options. You could always go with jeff
Speaker 1: and go with captain trade down here, but at least
Speaker 1: you have some guys they're gonna make an immediate impact
Speaker 1: on that defense if you wanted to go defense or
Speaker 1: going to open things up offensively with like a Justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson or Mackay Beckton that are there as well. So
Speaker 1: how do we get to a consensus here, which for
Speaker 1: the record, I would still pick Chase on. That's and
Speaker 1: for the record, like what I'm trying to do here
Speaker 1: is simulate what I think the Cowboys would do, like,
Speaker 1: not what I necessarily want to do, which is why
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, you're talking
Speaker 1: about Calevan Chase on one of the linebackers. You know
Speaker 1: they've been They've visited with Kenneth Murray, They've shown interest
Speaker 1: in linebacker. I don't think you can rule it out
Speaker 1: or a cornerback, but in this scenario, Henderson and Fulton
Speaker 1: are both gone, maybe maybe Trevon Dix, but I lean
Speaker 1: toward Chase on. And then further record, the fact that
Speaker 1: there's so many people talking about it probably means it
Speaker 1: won't happen, but it just seems like it makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. It makes sense, and you can pick. You
Speaker 1: can pick chase On here, Jeff, without actually completely saying
Speaker 1: it's a lock of a pick. I think everybody agrees
Speaker 1: on the fact that it's boomer Bus. Yeah, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: The problem is some of the other guys are a
Speaker 1: little bit of boomer Bus too, because I think if
Speaker 1: I'm forced to pick a player there, and even for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, that may be realistic because I've heard they
Speaker 1: visited with Patrick Queen too. They're interested in first round
Speaker 1: line bickers, so I don't think you can rule it out.
Speaker 1: I would go Murray over chase On while acknowledging that's
Speaker 1: not the safest pick either. You might be right the
Speaker 1: value of an edge rusher. I'll go with the group
Speaker 1: on chase On while quietly casting a vote for Murray. Well,
Speaker 1: and also for the sake of a two. Beckton is
Speaker 1: not some sure thing either. A guy who's six to
Speaker 1: eight and just kind of built like that is kind
Speaker 1: of kind of rare. Chase On would be my pick here.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna roll the dice on a guy who
Speaker 1: like if it's not one of the guys that wanted anyways,
Speaker 1: and maybe Chason is a guy they wanted. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: roll a dice on an edge rusher before I roll
Speaker 1: a dice on a line badger, especially for this team
Speaker 1: where they're at right now. For anybody listening that's not
Speaker 1: sold on Caleb on Chason, on the off chance that
Speaker 1: he is the pick, let me be the sunshine pumper.
Speaker 1: He is a boomer Bus prospect. I completely agree with that.
Speaker 1: He is definitely not a sure thing. He's twenty years old.
Speaker 1: He's really only started one season of college football. He
Speaker 1: tore his ACL the very first week of his sophomore season.
Speaker 1: He was a contributor as a true freshman. He's only
Speaker 1: played like seventeen college football game games, and he got
Speaker 1: better each and every week as the season went along
Speaker 1: to the point where he was a force come December
Speaker 1: when the when LSU was playing the SEC Championship game
Speaker 1: and the College Football Playoff. He is trending upward drastically.
Speaker 1: Does that mean it's going to pan out in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, but I will take my chances with that.
Speaker 1: When you consider his athleticism and his youth like this is,
Speaker 1: to quote Dane Brugler, an ascending player. Does that? Like
Speaker 1: I said, does that mean he's going to be an
Speaker 1: all Pro? Not necessarily, but I'm comfortable gambling on it.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Turn in the card Chase on all right,
Speaker 1: Kay Lavan Chason is the pick at seventeen, but I
Speaker 1: think we all agree that a linebacker very much could
Speaker 1: be in play. McKay Beckton flies off the board to Miami.
Speaker 1: They get Justin Herbert and McKay Beckton without having to
Speaker 1: trade any picks. That's great. Xavier McKinney goes, Trevon Diggs goes,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love goes Denzel mems is a first round pick
Speaker 1: to the Vikings, as is t Higgins. Kyle Jalen Ragers
Speaker 1: to off to Green Bay. I know that hurts, Yes,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry. Honestly, this whole round, the second round,
Speaker 1: is the round is going to hurt, like this whole
Speaker 1: thing is full of good players going. Ruise goes to Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: Zach bond Is pick thirty four off to Indie. Kenneth
Speaker 1: Murray falls to the second round. Antoine Winfield pick thirty
Speaker 1: nine to the Miami Dolphins. Who else we got kJ
Speaker 1: Hammler going to Tampa Bay, Julian Aquara goes to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Marlon Davidson, a guy we know the Cowboys like, goes
Speaker 1: forty eighth overall. Jalen Hurts one pick in front of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to join that quarterback competition. Now, so this
Speaker 1: is interesting because if you followed along right there, Ross
Speaker 1: Blacklock is another name that goes. But really, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: opted not to draft a dB in the first round,
Speaker 1: and a lot of them are gone. The safety's win,
Speaker 1: a lot of the cornerbacks went. So we're sitting here
Speaker 1: at pick fifty one. Your options, your realistic options. Curtis Weaver,
Speaker 1: the edge rusher out of Boise, Justin Matt Awicke Ruku
Speaker 1: the d tackle out of a and M Terrell Lewis
Speaker 1: out of Alabama, Kyle Dugger, Cameron Danzler, Jeremy Chin is
Speaker 1: still available, Michael Pittman, Junior, Ashton Davis, Jordan Elliott, Josh Ouch,
Speaker 1: Lloyd Cushionberry. That's a smattering of options that are available
Speaker 1: to you, and honestly, you can sell me on any
Speaker 1: of them, depending on what y'all want to do. Named
Speaker 1: that I would be very interested in at that spot
Speaker 1: are Justin Madavikee, the NMD tackle, Jordan Elliott, the Missouri
Speaker 1: d tackle, and Michael Pittman, the USC wide receiver, where
Speaker 1: I think you could do receiver later. I think it
Speaker 1: could be done later. I only bring up this name
Speaker 1: because he's my fifth wide receiver in this draft. I
Speaker 1: think that he's really, really, really good. Um, and I
Speaker 1: think he's the safest bet of those picks, but I'll
Speaker 1: probably cast my vote for oh, Manta bike versus eligant.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, so you're not throwing Cameron Danceler in there?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, four three nine, dude, I know, right after
Speaker 1: and then right yeah, yeah, right after that, I ran
Speaker 1: a four four six in my backyard. Um, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, No, I would not consider I guess God.
Speaker 1: Dancler's tape is incredible. My only problem is it's really combine.
Speaker 1: Is where everything is equal, there is no difference of
Speaker 1: the field. We're not trusting people with their hands who
Speaker 1: claim to be better than electronics. The combine is what
Speaker 1: we have. And there's been a grand total of one
Speaker 1: corner that's run four six four or worse and been
Speaker 1: good in the NFL. One and it was Josh Norman,
Speaker 1: so I would wait, I don't want him there. I
Speaker 1: think Mattabique has shown interest in and I haven't heard
Speaker 1: a lot about Elliott, so I may lean that way
Speaker 1: for realism, so I would cast my vote for Justin Mandavique,
Speaker 1: who I think is exactly what they hoped and prayed
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill would be. And so it's tough to have
Speaker 1: to use two twos to get this job done, but
Speaker 1: at least this one can play. I have three of
Speaker 1: the guys that are mentioned that I have second round
Speaker 1: grades on still. That would be Cushionberry, that would be
Speaker 1: Ashton Davis, the safety from California, and that would also
Speaker 1: be Mattabique. Mattabique would be my pick right there personally
Speaker 1: for me. He's actually one of my higher RAC second
Speaker 1: round grades that I have left on the board. And look,
Speaker 1: they signed Gerald McCoy and don Terry Pope, but those
Speaker 1: aren't long term solutions. I think Mattabique is a really
Speaker 1: good building lot for the building from the defensive line.
Speaker 1: I know if we went to Chasaw in the first
Speaker 1: who are worried about coverage. I know that's an issue,
Speaker 1: But if I'm looking on the board there. I'm going, man,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot that's really exciting me. They didn't,
Speaker 1: at least so far. I don't have on record any
Speaker 1: meetings that they've had with Dancer. They have, you know,
Speaker 1: met with Mattabek at some point. I think that's my
Speaker 1: pick right there, Mattabek and actually not terribly close to
Speaker 1: any of the other names that you've mentioned there that see,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's only two names that I look
Speaker 1: at whenever it comes to like this pick, and I
Speaker 1: think it's Mattabeke or it's Cameron Danceler for me because
Speaker 1: of the worries on coverage. But when like I kind
Speaker 1: of want to play off of what Kat just said,
Speaker 1: whenever you're talking about specifics, whenever it's the Don Terry
Speaker 1: po and the Gerald McCoy signings, Like you said, it's
Speaker 1: not a long term deal. This would be a long
Speaker 1: term deal with just a Mattabeke, and I think he
Speaker 1: would be a good building block in the middle of
Speaker 1: that defensive line. I don't think Cameron Dancelers the answer
Speaker 1: for replacing Byron Jones long term. At the same time, though,
Speaker 1: so I think I would lean justin Mattabek, But I
Speaker 1: would also just kind of keep an eye on camera
Speaker 1: Dancler at the same time. Here. Yeah, I will say
Speaker 1: it hurts I we're gonna pick Mattabeke. I think we
Speaker 1: basically all just agreed that that's the best option. But
Speaker 1: I like, I don't necessarily love it. It hurts me
Speaker 1: that you're not addressing your secondary with your first two picks.
Speaker 1: But it just hasn't fallen. It hasn't fallen that way.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. I don't think the value lines up. I
Speaker 1: don't think Dancler is good enough for pick fifty one.
Speaker 1: I again, if the Cowboys draft Jeremy Chin or Kyle Dugger,
Speaker 1: I think they're both good players. I just don't believe
Speaker 1: they'll do it. I have to see it to believe,
Speaker 1: so I'm not even considering those guys until I'm proven wrong.
Speaker 1: Maybe Ashton Davis, but I think Mattabeke the values there,
Speaker 1: the need is there. I don't love, like Jeff said,
Speaker 1: I don't love that they just drafted Tristan Hill and
Speaker 1: already need to draft another d tackle on top of
Speaker 1: the veterans that they've signed. But hey, maybe if your
Speaker 1: pass rush is awesome, it won't matter who's covering, so
Speaker 1: justin Matterbek. Yeah, sorry, just to kind of add in
Speaker 1: an extra Devil's advocate point here. Does it worry you
Speaker 1: guys at all the fact that we drafted an edge
Speaker 1: rusher and a defensive tackle and address that defensive line
Speaker 1: in rounds one and two, both of which that have
Speaker 1: already been addressed in the offseason, and potentially could not
Speaker 1: see a ton of playing time for either one of
Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, they could end up playing a lot.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if Randy Gregory and Alvin
Speaker 1: Smith come back, what are we going to see with
Speaker 1: Chase on what kind of rotation were we gonna have there?
Speaker 1: How good are Gerald McCoy and don Tari Poe gonna be?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of question marks with both
Speaker 1: of these positions, and then we just drafted two guys
Speaker 1: in the first It doesn't bother me because sounds. I
Speaker 1: think the rules are free agency, you feel your needs, draft,
Speaker 1: you get the best. So if those guys are the
Speaker 1: best value, you're not talking about guys that are long
Speaker 1: term solutions. If Alden Smith and Randy Gregory end up
Speaker 1: being contributors, that's awesome. And then I've got too many
Speaker 1: right defensive ends. Oh no, I've got too many guys
Speaker 1: that can rush the password. Yeah, I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: That's a great problem to have. Yep. I've also just
Speaker 1: taken two guys who I didn't think personally me talking,
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be there at seventeen and fifty one.
Speaker 1: Both of these guys, well, and you didn't. That's the
Speaker 1: point that you didn't want to get out of the
Speaker 1: first two rounds. About addressing the secondary, I think it's true.
Speaker 1: But that's also why captain trade down rides. You know,
Speaker 1: Captain trade down is going to roll all right on
Speaker 1: this track. We will get we will get to the
Speaker 1: trade down part if we like, if we hurry up,
Speaker 1: so we'll blow through the second round. Michael Pittman, Curtis Weaver,
Speaker 1: Tara Lewis, Kyle Dugger, Cameron Danceler, Jeremy Chen, Damon Arnett.
Speaker 1: That that one hurts. I was hoping he would fall
Speaker 1: to the third round. He's a good player. Jordan Elliott
Speaker 1: goes sixty seven. My guy, Clyde Edwards, a layer seventy one.
Speaker 1: Ray Kuan Davis, who we know the Cowboys had interest in,
Speaker 1: goes one pick before them to Las Vegas. I'm not
Speaker 1: very upset about that personally. UM So, here we are
Speaker 1: sitting at pick eighty two for the Dallas Cowboys, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I can talk myself into a few of these. Um
Speaker 1: Adam Troutman out of Dayton is there, Davon Hamilton out
Speaker 1: of Ohio State, don't really need d tackles anymore, Darryl
Speaker 1: Taylor the end out of Tennessee, Damian Lewis the guard
Speaker 1: out of LSU. Willie Gay Junior. If you're looking for
Speaker 1: a linebacker, you could do that. Boy. How about Terrell
Speaker 1: Burgess out of Utah as well? That's just the sampling
Speaker 1: of the best available. Okay, out of vote, I'm standing
Speaker 1: on the table for Burgess year. I would I would
Speaker 1: kneel on the table for Burgess while quite at least saying, guys,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Willie Gay Junior. He might be the best.
Speaker 1: He might be the best linebacker in this class. There's
Speaker 1: some questions about punching your backup quarterback in the faith
Speaker 1: and other things. He's got some other things. But if
Speaker 1: we're talking about the player, Willie Gay Junior might be
Speaker 1: a first rounder. So but I love Burgess. Safety that
Speaker 1: can cover the flot, that can play deep, that can tackle.
Speaker 1: I like to rill Burgess a lot, so I will.
Speaker 1: I will second Kyle wanting to pick him. What do
Speaker 1: you have for me at cornerback, Dave? And what do
Speaker 1: you have for me at wide receiver? Yeah? That is
Speaker 1: so you guys know that I'm all about drafting a
Speaker 1: wide receiver and this this mock really bummed me out
Speaker 1: because it kind of got cleaned out, at least in
Speaker 1: terms of the value. I mean, Michael Pittman's gone, Chase
Speaker 1: Claypool's gone. Um, if we're talking, I mean third round.
Speaker 1: Lynn Bowden Junior is still there? Who else is still there?
Speaker 1: Donovan Pezet though no, I agree, Donovan People's Jones is
Speaker 1: still there. Van Jefferson is still there. Devin Duvernet is
Speaker 1: still there. But in this scenario, like all of your
Speaker 1: you know, you're probably top six or seven of them
Speaker 1: have all been drafted at this point. Reggie Robinson, my
Speaker 1: cornerback there from Tulsa, are you trying to trying? I'm
Speaker 1: not going around early. He's going top one hundred, trying
Speaker 1: to go. He is still there. I would take him
Speaker 1: top one hundred. I wouldn't take him over Burgess. I
Speaker 1: think got Burgess into two three. I got Robinson is
Speaker 1: I would agree. I'm not vote up on Daryl Taylor
Speaker 1: from Tennessee. How many d ms were trying to put
Speaker 1: in this bad boy Reddy's coming back. I know they
Speaker 1: just said it's a good but at some point, if
Speaker 1: we're not gonna if we're not gonna cover, we better
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. Um I can. I can stay
Speaker 1: with you guys at Trull Burgess. I don't really see
Speaker 1: them draft of safety, to be honest, when they brought
Speaker 1: back Darian Thompson and signed Clinton Dix, I know that's
Speaker 1: not long term solutions, but I'm just gonna have to
Speaker 1: see it to believe it. With them taking a safety
Speaker 1: and premium picks, I'm glad you said that because something
Speaker 1: that interests me about Burgess is I think he could
Speaker 1: do some slot work. Yeah, I think he could do
Speaker 1: some slot work, and that makes him versatile. If you remember,
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods actually played a lot of corner as a
Speaker 1: rookie because they didn't have a spot for him. So
Speaker 1: the more you can do right and honestly, Byron Jones
Speaker 1: did the same thing. And I know it's a different
Speaker 1: coaching staff, but when you have a talented rookie's find
Speaker 1: a spot for him. Like he doesn't have to necessarily
Speaker 1: start at any one position. He can just do a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. This defense will want that too. The
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and I know Mike Nolan's defensive coordinator. That
Speaker 1: defense that did like and greed may have a lot
Speaker 1: of guys who could play safety, you could play slot,
Speaker 1: who could run around and do a bunch of things.
Speaker 1: So I think Burgess makes sense. I'm okay with you, guys,
Speaker 1: Taken Burgess, you want to go that route? Lovely? He
Speaker 1: is the pick? All right, guys, we like we're getting
Speaker 1: into the fourth round. Hunter Bryant goes to Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Donovan People's Jones is gone. Bradley and I lasts all
Speaker 1: the way to pick number ninety six. James Lynch goes
Speaker 1: ninety eight to New England. That feels right. Jonathan Greenard
Speaker 1: Grenard also goes to New England. That sucks. Van Jefferson
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. The Eagles just loading up on receivers. They
Speaker 1: drafted justin Jefferson as well. Okay, now this this really sucks.
Speaker 1: I was really mad when this happened, really counting on
Speaker 1: kJ Hill to fall because of his forty time. He
Speaker 1: goes number one oh six to Baltimore. That sucks. Devin
Speaker 1: DuVernay goes tear it up in Baltimore. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It sucks. All the good players are going. Darnay Holmes
Speaker 1: goes to Carolina. Leakey Foe tu Goes to Arizona. Lynn
Speaker 1: Bowden Jr. Is gone at one. Brian Edwards goes one seventeen,
Speaker 1: which also really pisses me off. Anthony Jennings, Bryson Hopkins
Speaker 1: Goes to Indy. Now we're down to pick one twenty
Speaker 1: three for your Dallas Cowboys. Available players. You got alb
Speaker 1: you got albert O out of Missoo. You've got Jacob Phillips,
Speaker 1: the LSU linebacker. You have Logan Wilson, the Wyoming linebacker
Speaker 1: that Dane Brugler mocked to the Cowboys. Can I interest
Speaker 1: you in a John High Tower? Can I interest you
Speaker 1: in a Colin Johnson? Can I interest you in a
Speaker 1: McTelvin a game? Katie's guy, Reggie Robinson still sitting there.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's unrealistic. Maybe not. Richard Laws on the board,
Speaker 1: Asie Assie is on the board. Yes to me, this
Speaker 1: is risk and Robinson will throw him in. Wilton, I'm
Speaker 1: right there with you. Jeff is Hennessy on the board
Speaker 1: the center from Temple. He is not enough, Okay. I'm
Speaker 1: Austin Wilson as a top one hundred and ten player
Speaker 1: for me, and the fact that you would get him
Speaker 1: at one twenty three and address a potential need but
Speaker 1: also build toward the future whenever Sean Lee's out of there.
Speaker 1: I think Lodian Wilson would be a miraculous pick at
Speaker 1: one twenty three. Honestly, I think I think Reggie. I
Speaker 1: think Reggie Robinson will be a miraculous pick there as well.
Speaker 1: And I tell you ossi Assi too, Ossie, Aussie's gonna
Speaker 1: go top one hundred. I don't necessarily think he should,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna go top one hundred. For me, my
Speaker 1: highest graded player between those three would be Reggie Robinson
Speaker 1: and then Logan Wilson. I'm fine with either one, but
Speaker 1: I would stand at the table and fight for my guy,
Speaker 1: Reggie rob from Tulsa. I've seen k fact that you
Speaker 1: think he's a I think katth fight so um I
Speaker 1: agree with Between those same two players, I would probably
Speaker 1: go Wilson but I will then factor in this team
Speaker 1: and be like, dude, we're in the fourth round and
Speaker 1: I think we've got a good corner on the board
Speaker 1: that can contribute as a rookie, and we got Nutling
Speaker 1: at corner. Nutling so I could get with kat on
Speaker 1: the Robinson Cook, do you think will be immediate starter
Speaker 1: or is this something you're building into the future. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's starting over Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis or Cheeto.
Speaker 1: But Logan Wilson's not starting Bold I'm gonna say Logan
Speaker 1: Wilson probably ain't starting either. I I when I did
Speaker 1: this on my own, I made Robinson the pick. But like,
Speaker 1: I can't shake this feeling about linebacker. You know, Jeff
Speaker 1: brought it up. You know they've talked to Keneth Murray.
Speaker 1: We've heard that they have interest in Queen as well.
Speaker 1: And if they have a chance to draft a linebacker,
Speaker 1: a good one, especially this late in the draft, maybe
Speaker 1: they would do it. Maybe we're not giving that enough credence.
Speaker 1: Um let's take let's take Wilson. Dane mocked him too there.
Speaker 1: I think it meant Wilson. They're gonna like Wilson. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna corner, let me all right, corner. Uh,
Speaker 1: that that's I don't I don't feel great. I don't
Speaker 1: feel great. Now you're I'm I'm terrified at the secondary.
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with Reggie. I'm sticking with Reggie Robinson. All right, fine,
Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson, let's go. Let's go. Jeff scared me, all right,
Speaker 1: Let's keep Logan Wilson. Logan Wilson doesn't last long. Neither
Speaker 1: does John high Tower. A game, goes Richard, what's up, Dave?
Speaker 1: Don't we have to take breaks? Or no, we've got
Speaker 1: to take a break here? Oh goodness, all right, Well
Speaker 1: we're in the fourth round, so yeah, do it now. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll go ahead and take a break here. So when
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll finish up the seventh round mocks,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get to some trade scenarios very quickly.
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Speaker 1: So tons of fund there, Dave. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: look at what we got here in round five at
Speaker 1: pick one sixty four. Correct, Yes, we are cruising through
Speaker 1: the fifth round. Pickin's getting a little slim in terms
Speaker 1: of guys that we know the Cowboys have shown interest
Speaker 1: in Devin Asiyassi, the UCLA tight end. He goes off
Speaker 1: the board. My pet cat, Julian Blackman goes off the
Speaker 1: board to Tampa Bay. That's devastating. But sitting here at
Speaker 1: one sixty one sixty four, we've got a choice. We've
Speaker 1: got Darryl Williams the Mississippi States center, Evan Weaver the
Speaker 1: cow linebacker, Kats Guy, Quintez Cephis, the Wisconsin receiver, Jason
Speaker 1: Strowbridge the unc D lineman, and about Dallas's own James
Speaker 1: Prochet just sitting there. Pick him, pick number one sixty
Speaker 1: four him. Yeah, let's take him. He's a guy that
Speaker 1: I like a lot. Maybe maybe I'm biased, but the
Speaker 1: Cowboys need a receiver. It really hasn't shown up for
Speaker 1: them in this scenario. They had a chance at Michael
Speaker 1: Pittman in the second round, didn't pull the trigger. I
Speaker 1: think Proche is awesome, especially at that value as sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Oh, I was just gonna say. I also
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna make us a legitimate impact and
Speaker 1: special teams as well. This is a guy who returned kicks,
Speaker 1: returned punts and did that electrifyingly in college so I
Speaker 1: think James Prochet is not only a guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: make an impact in the slot and have an unreal
Speaker 1: catch radius, but he's gonna be a good special teams
Speaker 1: guy for you too. Pick him, Jared, all right, he's
Speaker 1: the pick. There are other receivers that I'd rather draft,
Speaker 1: but at picks at one sixty four, I can't argue
Speaker 1: with it. I really can't. Okay, cruising, cruising. Darryl Williams
Speaker 1: goes right after that. Jason Strowbridge goes Eno Benjamin one
Speaker 1: of my favorite names in the draft. He's off to
Speaker 1: Tennessee one seventy nine. We didn't have to wait that long.
Speaker 1: Cowboys on the clock. Who's available? Darrenson Evans is there,
Speaker 1: if you know, if you want to fill out the
Speaker 1: running back depth chart, Juwan Jennings is there. Look wait
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait wait, Katie, did you just
Speaker 1: on Darrenson Evans make a sound? Now? I like him
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah. I like him because if you get
Speaker 1: to the outside, get to the tackles, then he's on.
Speaker 1: Because he's a light. You're good. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a dismissive sound. I was like, well, well, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I think Darren ton Evans is going in the top
Speaker 1: three and a half four round. I think he's. I
Speaker 1: just don't think he's he's gonna think he's gonna go
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. I think he's. I think he's a
Speaker 1: lightning bolt of a running back. Which further record, these
Speaker 1: mock simulators are not all that realistic. If you could
Speaker 1: see some of these picks on my spat, you would laugh.
Speaker 1: But it's fine. Davis Jordan Brooks the tech linebacker gun. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's long gone. He's way gone. He's gotta be a
Speaker 1: long gun. Yeah, just making sure, guys, we hadn't mentioned yet.
Speaker 1: If we're worried about linebackers, the name that I have
Speaker 1: circled that's available here is Marcus Bailey, which the parallels
Speaker 1: to Sean Lee are hilarious. I mean, he's not as
Speaker 1: naturally gifted as Sean Lee. He was a freaking he
Speaker 1: was the second round pick. But the guy tackles everything
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, but injuries have been a pretty big
Speaker 1: issue for him. Uh, that's right. I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of a no brainer at that spot for Bailey and
Speaker 1: Bailey I could have fourth round grade on, so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be Yeah, I'm totally totally happy with Marcus Bailey
Speaker 1: right there. That's great. If if you we wouldn't have
Speaker 1: taken Reggie Robinson in the previous round and we would
Speaker 1: have taken Logan Wilson instead, I probably would be kind
Speaker 1: of saying here, I like the idea of maybe even
Speaker 1: look at it, Dane Jackson from it. One of the
Speaker 1: guys that I know, David liked a lot of the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He'd be a guy throw into that conversation.
Speaker 1: But since we since we ended up going with Reggie Robinson,
Speaker 1: I think I would I would definitely go with Marcus
Speaker 1: Bailey here for sure. If his medicals check out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's metal. He's got the knee, and that's very
Speaker 1: concerning about him, and that's a reason why he's gonna
Speaker 1: be going this late in the draft is because of
Speaker 1: that reason. But you know, the Cowboys have proven in
Speaker 1: the past though they'll take a chance on some medicals,
Speaker 1: so especially let's do it. Okay, well, the guys torn
Speaker 1: both acl That means that they've been rebuilt really well
Speaker 1: and they're super strong. Now he's gonna be great, Honestly
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Torn Acls just don't scare me that
Speaker 1: much that that stuff happens. It's fine, okay, moving on
Speaker 1: down the line. Juwan Jennings goes to Buffalo. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: goes to the Jets. Benito Jones, who you know we
Speaker 1: kind of were out on after the combine. He goes
Speaker 1: number two oh four. Dan Jackson lasts all the way
Speaker 1: to two o eight, which I just think is criminal.
Speaker 1: H I don't get it, can I can I whatever
Speaker 1: jacked for a second. He's okay, Okay, his tape is
Speaker 1: not saying his senior BOWLT tape. His senior bowlt tape
Speaker 1: is good. His tape tape. I'm not saying why he's
Speaker 1: going in this round. We're not talking about him in
Speaker 1: I haven't. I'm not saying he's a I have him.
Speaker 1: I have him as like a five six, So I like,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be stunned if he goes late. Is uh
Speaker 1: kolbe Parkinson's still there, the tight end from Stanford Oh
Speaker 1: one second? Actually Colby Colby Parkinson went off the board
Speaker 1: one pick before we picked James Prochet. He was the
Speaker 1: last guy taken before our pick in the fifth. I
Speaker 1: don't know the extent of it, but I do know
Speaker 1: that they had conversations with him at some point as well.
Speaker 1: So the kid do you mean? Doesn't mean a lot?
Speaker 1: But I again, I don't know. Am I crazy? And
Speaker 1: I'm not going to rule it out. Like we know
Speaker 1: they like Assi Assi, They've talked to tight ends. I
Speaker 1: get it. But like, I'm not worried about tight end
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I'm perfectly fine, perfectly fine letting Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin and Blake Bell and if Dalton Schultz can do something,
Speaker 1: that's cool too, Like, if it's a problem, we can
Speaker 1: deal with it next offseason. I got I got other
Speaker 1: stuff to fix before I worry about that. Davis Texas
Speaker 1: Tech defensive tackle Broderick Washington on your list there one
Speaker 1: second guy. We haven't talked about much, but I think
Speaker 1: we're talking what we're in the sixth round now right,
Speaker 1: we're technically in the seventh, going to the seventh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, broad Rick Washington still there. That's a
Speaker 1: good little defensive tackle prospect. The other name I like
Speaker 1: at DT is Josiah Cotney from Old Miss as well.
Speaker 1: Again six seventh round, tap guys, but really, Washington, guys,
Speaker 1: I've got to higher grade of him. Washington is still available,
Speaker 1: Umradon Man Man, can I get my A and M punter?
Speaker 1: Can I grab me a putter here? You know we've
Speaker 1: talked about their interest in Richard Lawrence. Broad Rick Washington's
Speaker 1: a better player than Richard Lawrence. Wow, Okay, I praise Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's available. Bradon Man is also available. Honestly, I would
Speaker 1: I would love that pick, especially if he was still
Speaker 1: hanging around. I did yesterday, will be I did a
Speaker 1: mad yesterday. I took a putter in the seventh round.
Speaker 1: Why not? The team's hadn't been good. I mean at
Speaker 1: this point, I would look at quarterback or special teams potentially,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to get a backup quarterback for Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: If you think the Cooper Rush experiment is over? What
Speaker 1: do you got on the board in terms of quarterback
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna have anybody legitimate out there? Maybe
Speaker 1: like a Mason Fine for North Texas and being in
Speaker 1: North Texas grad. I would love that, but I don't
Speaker 1: think that's the right pig. It's funny funny you bring
Speaker 1: that up. Okay, So pick thirty one, two thirty one,
Speaker 1: excuse me, not thirty one? Some of your options here?
Speaker 1: You got to Kyle's point, Tyler Huntley, the Utah quarterback,
Speaker 1: is sitting there if you want to, if you want
Speaker 1: to take a backup quarterback. Dj Wanham ken Law's teammate
Speaker 1: at South Carolina is still available. Um interesting, Lavanta Taylor,
Speaker 1: Francis Bernard, m Josh Kelly, the UCLA running back. WHOA,
Speaker 1: Francis Bernard's still there? Yeah? Yeah, he's still there. I mean,
Speaker 1: Francis Bernard despite it quite an insane track record. You
Speaker 1: want to go look at his off the field events.
Speaker 1: They're kind of funny. Uh, Francis Bernard. It would be
Speaker 1: my vote now over the punter. I would also make
Speaker 1: that same vote. And second, what Kat said about his experiences,
Speaker 1: y'all are y'all are better, y'all are more thorough than me.
Speaker 1: Can you fill me in on what these are? Church?
Speaker 1: Here was a church mission guy. You know, he was
Speaker 1: a BYU and then Utah guy. He was dismissed from
Speaker 1: BYU I believe with the honor code situation. But then
Speaker 1: eventually twenty seventeen he was out of football. Then he
Speaker 1: showed back up at Utah for his last two years.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good player and apparently he's matured
Speaker 1: from whatever it was that that caused problems at his
Speaker 1: first stop. Yeah, and I think he's a guy who
Speaker 1: could cover a little bit as well. A little undersized,
Speaker 1: but you know, and this where the NFL is now, like, hey,
Speaker 1: there's two things that he's very good at. He's a
Speaker 1: good open field tackler and you may have a little
Speaker 1: bit of, you know, concerns about his play strength, but
Speaker 1: he can cover a little bit. And his exchange is
Speaker 1: online if you want to go. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: easily find it if you like. After the time that
Speaker 1: draft show priority number one, let's just say, yeah, it
Speaker 1: involved a noise complained at an apartment complex and there's
Speaker 1: a lot going on there. Oh okay, Oh you know what,
Speaker 1: I didn't know this one detail, and this one detail
Speaker 1: takes me all the way out unless he's gotten helped
Speaker 1: for that, and I can have many people vouch for him.
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate what's what what detail? Jeff. I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of people who use flurs. Oh he did that,
Speaker 1: that's not good. I didn't know that. What I thought
Speaker 1: what I saw is that he threatened to choke a
Speaker 1: gun too. Yeah, that's part of that. Yeah, it's part
Speaker 1: in situation. Then let's go with I'm still gonna go
Speaker 1: with the punter here. Honestly, I'm back to the putter, putter.
Speaker 1: I'll take it the putter all day. Back to the putter.
Speaker 1: That's a guy who can win you football games, to
Speaker 1: set you up and beat you on the field position battle.
Speaker 1: We don't really believe. We don't really believe he'll still
Speaker 1: be there this late in the draft. Dude. We like
Speaker 1: he's too good to be sitting there twenty picks from
Speaker 1: the end of the draft. I don't know, no, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, um yeah, freaking Seattle drafted Dixon in
Speaker 1: the third round. Well Dixon was special, Man Dixon, and
Speaker 1: you know that's a that's a that's a leg there,
Speaker 1: that's special. I'm just I'm just saying, I don't I
Speaker 1: if Man is as good as people hype him up
Speaker 1: to be, I don't think he'll last that long. Like
Speaker 1: he's That sounds like a fifth or sixth round pick.
Speaker 1: Take the putter, all right, We're taking the punter, thank you.
Speaker 1: So that that gives us a draft class of Calvan
Speaker 1: Chase On, Justin Mattabeke, Terrell Burgess, Reggie Robinson, James Prochet,
Speaker 1: Marcus Bailey, and Braden Man, which when I look at
Speaker 1: it in totality, I like all these players. I feel
Speaker 1: good about it. I don't know if we won the draft.
Speaker 1: I think we got a B blub. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I mean we did, we did what we could. That's
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are so much. Didn't help you out here, No,
Speaker 1: it really did. It didn't fall the way that I
Speaker 1: would have preferred, which is why it's fun to do
Speaker 1: this stuff. Honestly, when you're picking in the middle of
Speaker 1: the draft too, if you're telling me I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: out of that draft for the B or a B plus,
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty happy about that. And that's just not
Speaker 1: where you want to be. You don't want to be
Speaker 1: in the middle. And I'm a I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: what we've done here, guys. I think we've done some
Speaker 1: good things, not only for the upcoming year that may
Speaker 1: or may not happen in the future. So yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think there's there's like at least two or three
Speaker 1: guys in this class that can make a big impact
Speaker 1: right away. Um, the punter, the putter for sure, and
Speaker 1: then I mean Jason's gonna Chason's gonna do something as
Speaker 1: a rookie, there's no way. And then my guy James,
Speaker 1: so I feel all right about it. It just reinforces
Speaker 1: how much I think the Cowboys have to do and
Speaker 1: how few picks they have to do it with. I
Speaker 1: think after about six to eight games of Haha, Clinton Dick,
Speaker 1: She'll guys would be ready to get Tryll Burgesson there
Speaker 1: as well. All right, do we do we want to
Speaker 1: take a quick break and talk about a trade down scenario. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, Well we'll go ahead and take a
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Speaker 1: But Dave, you're not done yet. You've got some trade
Speaker 1: down scenarios that we're going to look through as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we all agree that we would not mind
Speaker 1: a trade down in the first round at all if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can pull it off. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: take a look at what that might look like. Who
Speaker 1: knows if it can actually happen. These mock simulators are
Speaker 1: hilarious because what wound up happening in every scenario I tried.
Speaker 1: The thing that prompted the trade up is Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: falling to pick number seventeen. I don't think I believe
Speaker 1: that that's possible. Like, if Justin Herbert falls to like
Speaker 1: number ten or eleven, somebody's gonna go up and get him,
Speaker 1: like I don't think anybody would wait for him to
Speaker 1: fall that far. But anyway, in this scenario that happens,
Speaker 1: we could sub ind Jordan Love if we wanted to,
Speaker 1: but it's actually it's New England that wants to come up.
Speaker 1: I was able to finesse pick number twenty three and
Speaker 1: pick number eighty seven out of the Patriots uh to
Speaker 1: move back six spots. Maybe that's a little rich, but
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Speaker 1: it's also possible they have pick number ninety eight and
Speaker 1: pick number one hundred. So if eighty seven is too rich,
Speaker 1: maybe you make that trade for pick twenty three and
Speaker 1: pick ninety eight. Um, it's not as awesome as getting
Speaker 1: pick eighty seven, but you would still pick four times
Speaker 1: in the top one hundred, which is pretty sweet. So
Speaker 1: good in this scenario. Well, in this scenario, we've got
Speaker 1: eighty seven because that's more fun, But maybe it's pick
Speaker 1: ninety eight instead. Anyway, New England gets justin. Herbert javon
Speaker 1: Kinlaw goes at eighteen, Xavier McKinney goes at nineteen. Derek
Speaker 1: Brown fell all the way to twenty. What the hell
Speaker 1: is going on there? Well, just let me just let
Speaker 1: me sit there, all right, But the one time we
Speaker 1: actually do trade down and Kavanaugh Captain je I'm saying
Speaker 1: all these these these simulators are stupid anyway. So Dallas
Speaker 1: is on the clock at pick twenty three, and your
Speaker 1: available talents are Patrick, Queen, Kenneth Murray, Justin Jefferson, Calevon Chason. Actually,
Speaker 1: funnily enough, in this scenario, is still there, Zach Bonn, Yature,
Speaker 1: Gross Matos, aj Terrell, Trevon Diggs, Denzel Mims, Zach Bond,
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson. Who who you like? Dig birth Bonn? And Murray?
Speaker 1: Did you say Queen was there too? And Jason? And
Speaker 1: I don't want to pick. I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to pay. I don't want to pick because
Speaker 1: we already did. No, yeah, we're not gonna pick Chason
Speaker 1: in this scenario, just because we already did it. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: that's the realistic discussion we need to have, is Queen
Speaker 1: or Murray? Because I think that could probably have I
Speaker 1: kind of I say that, aren't we Diggs, Queen and
Speaker 1: Murray I think are the three that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: in the scenario, because well, we in the first mock draft,
Speaker 1: we saw how tough it's going to be to pick
Speaker 1: up any kind of corners passed round one, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, digs here potentially. I mean, we've still picked
Speaker 1: up linebackers, and there were linebackers available in that first
Speaker 1: seven round mock that we just did, but corners were
Speaker 1: not readily get my guy. We can get a Keen
Speaker 1: Davis Skaith later if we want. We could take Trevon
Speaker 1: dig tire. I I agree with the thought process completely.
Speaker 1: I will say that, like I I've made up my mind,
Speaker 1: like if the Dallas Cowboys draft an off ball linebacker
Speaker 1: in the first round, it I mean, it's fine, they
Speaker 1: could be good players and it could work out, but like,
Speaker 1: it just signals something big to me, Like you don't
Speaker 1: make that pick unless you're drastically worried about Layton vander
Speaker 1: esh or you're doing some sort of crazy scheme change
Speaker 1: like moving Jalen Smith to rush linebacker in a three
Speaker 1: or four. You're not making that pick without doing something
Speaker 1: absolutely nuts. Or if you don't trust that Layton's ever
Speaker 1: going to play again? Am I crazy for thinking that? No?
Speaker 1: I think the third possibility is that you have buyer's
Speaker 1: remorse twelve months after signing a big deal for one
Speaker 1: of your days. I think that's the third scenario there
Speaker 1: is Layton Mandresh help team change buyer's remorse on Jay Len.
Speaker 1: I think it's very h go ahead, sorry, go ahead, Dave.
Speaker 1: I just I think it's very possible that they draft
Speaker 1: one of those linebackers in the first round. And if
Speaker 1: they do it, it you can't sell it to me
Speaker 1: as anything other than a break glass in case of emergency.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's available in this scenario, but
Speaker 1: just in general, I think we should talk about this
Speaker 1: for a second. Do we know their interest in AJ
Speaker 1: Terrell from Clemson? I have Digs graded higher than a J. Terrell,
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a lot of teams around the
Speaker 1: league that have a J. Terrell graded high. Like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to AJ Drogos. I think Terrell might
Speaker 1: be the faper pick of those two. I think with
Speaker 1: Dig you're you're partially chasing up to I love Digs
Speaker 1: because of all the measurables. I love dig in man
Speaker 1: coverage when you let him play press man. But as
Speaker 1: far as the nuance of the position and being a
Speaker 1: more safe pick. I do think Terrell is safer than
Speaker 1: dig although I would pick Diggs. Diggs reminds me Diggs
Speaker 1: is like the cornerback Chase on Like, it's hard not
Speaker 1: to be enamored by the measurables and the intangibles, but
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a more polished product on tape.
Speaker 1: I think you've got a defensive staff here. Those gonna
Speaker 1: lean more towards taking risks and things like that. There's
Speaker 1: not gonna be the bottom half of the league and blitzing,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna look for guys who can go be
Speaker 1: big turnover guys, and I think Diggs has the potential
Speaker 1: to be that as well. But you know, h Terrell's
Speaker 1: tape isn't bad. I just don't have him up in
Speaker 1: those top, you know, the top couple of tiers of cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: His tape's not bad because that's the National Championship game,
Speaker 1: but you can get out that it's funny, pretty good.
Speaker 1: I think people would have a drastically different opinion of
Speaker 1: Diggs and Terrell if they hadn't had to go up
Speaker 1: against Jamar Chase, because they both got absolutely bullied by
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and it leaves a bad impression when you
Speaker 1: see it on tape. They should have called Cameron Dances
Speaker 1: coming in here. And I just think, for as much
Speaker 1: as as much as we talk about Diggs, I just
Speaker 1: wonder what the Cowboys think of A J. Terrell. No,
Speaker 1: I just I don't hie on them from what we've heard,
Speaker 1: and that would be those two guys over fourteen versus
Speaker 1: Murray for me, yea I believe. So yeah, Well, we're
Speaker 1: running out of time, so in this scenario, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go with Trevon Diggs, which I feel better at better
Speaker 1: about having added another pick. I feel better about it.
Speaker 1: A J. Terrell does go in the first round. Pick
Speaker 1: thirty two, pick fifty one. You still got Matta Mattabike,
Speaker 1: You got Cam Danceler, Neville Gallimore, Kyle Dugger, Ross Blacklocke,
Speaker 1: no Igbnogany, Ezra Cleveland is there? Kenneth Murray still hanging around?
Speaker 1: Who we're picking? I mean, actually I remember now I did.
Speaker 1: I did not pick Kenneth Murray here because I don't
Speaker 1: think it's realistic that he'll be there. But if y'all
Speaker 1: want to do it, we can. No, No, that's unrealistic.
Speaker 1: Who were the other one Keim David skather Is also,
Speaker 1: I don't want to pick Ka already picked him. You
Speaker 1: got Neville Gallimore, you got Ross Blacklock, Uh, Blacklock. I
Speaker 1: would take Blacklock. He could take Blacklock if he makes
Speaker 1: fifty one. I actually do like Mota b K better.
Speaker 1: So actually I'll vote for the repeat pick just to
Speaker 1: see what it looks like. I would vote for mot
Speaker 1: A b K again, I would too, but I could
Speaker 1: see them going Weaver. I could see them taking Jonathan
Speaker 1: Green Greenhard from Florida too as well. Pretty good spot
Speaker 1: for him. Excuse me, um for Och there like okay,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what they're gonna do. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You'd have to tell me that they're that they're going
Speaker 1: to be a very very multiple defense and let it
Speaker 1: six one, two, forty five point rushed the pastor all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, I mean, he's as versatile as any
Speaker 1: other edge rusher. You've got to be. I'll take Galivore
Speaker 1: over Mattabecan don't say that KG don't be there. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think I would do Blacklock over Mattabeca in the
Speaker 1: Bill Gallimore. All right, Dave make the pick. I'm putting
Speaker 1: Blacklock in there just because I don't want to repeat picks.
Speaker 1: That's boring. Okay, so we picked Blacklock. Maybe that's not realistic,
Speaker 1: but none of this is. So it's fine. Um, it's
Speaker 1: a great it's a great pick. So we're skipping all
Speaker 1: the way down. I mean, some of these picks are
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. But sitting here at pick eighty two, you've
Speaker 1: got Clyde Edwards, Elaire who they talked to but they
Speaker 1: don't need, Kenny Robinson, Cole Comet is still there, Van Jefferson,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin still hanging around, Brian Edwards, Reggie Robinson, Tyler Beatish,
Speaker 1: if you want to get yourself a sinner, ray Quon
Speaker 1: Davis is still there. Damian Lewis, Terrell Lewis, those are
Speaker 1: kind of the big names. Chin or Terrell Lewis or
Speaker 1: there's another name earlier, Like I'd take Terrell Lewis, and
Speaker 1: I know his knee might be messed up, but Terrell
Speaker 1: Lewis's tape is to me, there's not enough of it,
Speaker 1: but that is top twenty type tape. And I just
Speaker 1: I know everyone's worried about the knee and it might
Speaker 1: be degenerative and all that stuff, but man, let's let's
Speaker 1: go third round. Let's roll the dice on a guy
Speaker 1: who could really help on the edge, and also five
Speaker 1: picks later because of the trade then Dave made so
Speaker 1: you pick at eighty seven, five picks after eighty two.
Speaker 1: So if you don't want to pick a guy like
Speaker 1: Terrell Lewis, or you want to pick a guy and
Speaker 1: roll the dice on a guy like Terrell Lewis, you
Speaker 1: can come back with a safer pick at eighty seven.
Speaker 1: If you can take Jalen Smith in the second round,
Speaker 1: you can take Terrell Lewis in the third round. Let's
Speaker 1: put it that way. Oh okay, I'm I'm on board.
Speaker 1: You convince me I have Brian Edwards because I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with drafting your receiver. But you easily talked me into
Speaker 1: Terrell Lewis. What about which one's more likely the last
Speaker 1: five picks? Actually, you know what's funny in this mock,
Speaker 1: I did not draft Terrell Lewis, and he did not
Speaker 1: last five picks. So if you want him, you should
Speaker 1: take him. Take him, all right, he's the pick. He
Speaker 1: would have been pick eighty six to Buffalo. But now
Speaker 1: we don't know. Yeah, so we don't he's picking. Said,
Speaker 1: if we can pick Brian Edwards or not, we don't
Speaker 1: know if somebody would have taken him because he went
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. We do not. There'll be another wide receiver
Speaker 1: that we liked too. There'll be another wide receiver that
Speaker 1: we liked. If whatever, there'll be another one that we like.
Speaker 1: We'll be fine. In this scenario. Lynn Bowden Junior Van
Speaker 1: Jefferson are both still there. Um, those are the only
Speaker 1: two big name. Colin Johnson's still there if you like him, Okay,
Speaker 1: pick eighty seven. Clyde Edwards, Hilaire still there, Tyler Battish,
Speaker 1: Coole Comet, Malik Harrison, Ohio State, Logan Wilson, Adam Troutman,
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson, Jeremy chen Rae, Kwon, Davis Harrison, get their linebacker.
Speaker 1: They're gonna want to lie in this scenario, I'm picking
Speaker 1: a linebacker, and I would pick Harrison or Wilson. You
Speaker 1: could tell you could talk me into either one. I'm
Speaker 1: just bored with linebacker. But yes, we'll do the smart thing.
Speaker 1: We'll take the linebacker. I don't know if it's a Oh, Kyle,
Speaker 1: you want to draft my guy LBJ. I'm so high
Speaker 1: on on Lynn Bowden Junior. I want yea Cowboys so bad. Yes,
Speaker 1: he would be so fun, So I would think about
Speaker 1: picking him here, like you said, the safe picks linebacker.
Speaker 1: But I'm bored of that, so I would I would
Speaker 1: throw what hatton the ring. In terms of Linn Boden Junior,
Speaker 1: you're telling me dude, you're telling me Dubnes there though too,
Speaker 1: But I like I'm taking er. I'm taking Duberde over
Speaker 1: Lynn Boden Junior. You're insane that you are. Absolutely Jis
Speaker 1: Duverna is ready to go right now. Lynn Bowe Junior
Speaker 1: is gonna need a little work. I don't care. Sign
Speaker 1: signed Tavon Austin and let Lynn Bowden take his job
Speaker 1: later on. And I don't care. Third four, And Jefferson
Speaker 1: needs to be in this conversation too, because he's right there.
Speaker 1: Also he's third four. You gotta have it, gotta have it.
Speaker 1: Third and four. I'm dialing up Lynn Bowden Junior. I'm
Speaker 1: nervous about that. I'm not not nervous at all about
Speaker 1: what dover with that. I think that'd be awesome. I
Speaker 1: just want gets the job done. Third run a route, No, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you throw the ball, you throw the ball in
Speaker 1: his area. Is he going to catch the ball? Yes, yeah, yes.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna get dressed off the line? Yeah? Are
Speaker 1: you gonna get open? Is he gonna have at every
Speaker 1: players he's gonna round this route? I feel like people
Speaker 1: for sure because his foot's hurt, We're gonna have two
Speaker 1: wide receivers with bad feet. Pick one day. Okay, well
Speaker 1: all right, so do we want a linebacker or a receiver?
Speaker 1: Let so Van Jefferson, Lynn Boden, Devin Duverney, Logan Wilson,
Speaker 1: Malie Harrison. What do you want? What do you feel?
Speaker 1: We want wide receiver, they want linebacker. We want wide receiver.
Speaker 1: They will me, I'll take Van Jefferson. We all agree
Speaker 1: we would rather have a wide receiver, but we don't
Speaker 1: trust them to be that much fun. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: say we're gonna say Malie Harrison, linebacker out of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: They pump out pretty good defensive players up there. And
Speaker 1: so I didn't do the full seven rounds, but that
Speaker 1: trade down gets Trevon Diggs. Who'd we draft in the second?
Speaker 1: I already forgot Ross Blacklock, Terrella and yeah, Terrella loop.
Speaker 1: So I mean we've been we just fixed our whole
Speaker 1: defense in one nice little trade back. So that's fun.
Speaker 1: What up, captain, captain? Trade down? I gotta say, even
Speaker 1: though Brown, I'm driving the damn I'm driving the damn
Speaker 1: Calvan Chase on bandwagon. But if you could get out
Speaker 1: of that pick and add another top hundred pick, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm very here for it. I would be. I would
Speaker 1: be excited about that. I agree. I agree, because you
Speaker 1: can potentially get the same guy at twenty three that
Speaker 1: you did at seventeen, which again I did my best,
Speaker 1: but I did my best, but this simulator was laughably inaccurate.
Speaker 1: So but thanks for the players who were talking about
Speaker 1: then there were exciting at the in the back end
Speaker 1: there in the nineties. I mean, that's how you know, dude.
Speaker 1: The picks like pick fifty to one hundred is just
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of fun. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of value to be had there, and I hope the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can add to their pick total in that range.
Speaker 1: But if they don't, I really I don't feel bad
Speaker 1: about a Caleban Chason pick. I'm terrified about what picking
Speaker 1: a linebacker in the first round means. But Kenneth Murray
Speaker 1: and Patrick Queen are both good players. So at least
Speaker 1: there's that. Well, I think we didn't good work today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's plenty of options with the Cowboys, whether
Speaker 1: it be trading down, whether it be sitting tight and
Speaker 1: then trying to draft here and there. Dave, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for putting that together. I know that took a
Speaker 1: lot of time out of your day over the past week.
Speaker 1: And we've got seven days to the draft. Boys, We've
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