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Speaker 1: I A A Bank starts right now. Welcome into Jaguars Reporters.

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Speaker 1: Today is Monday, March one. J P. Shadrick, Ashland Sullivan,

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Speaker 1: John Osan, Brian Sexton had to check the date real quick.

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Speaker 1: This month is flying by the start of the league

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Speaker 1: That's the idea for head coach Doug Peterson, especially with

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Speaker 1: have to. You can't be content with what is there.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, but not at a competitive level. You need

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Speaker 1: to add more bodies there too. Well, it might be okay.

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Speaker 1: We don't know about Dylan Moses, and he's a real

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Speaker 1: wild card in this um. If he's right, if his

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Speaker 1: legs are right in JP. I followed him Alabama. He

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a first round pick, and he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a big time player. Uh. The second part

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Speaker 1: of this is if if you're playing the three four,

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Speaker 1: which I'm assuming they are, um that position that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, I assume I'll awoken Lukin. Okay, I'm the writer.

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Speaker 1: You just say it really quickly. He's uh. I assume

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Speaker 1: he's on the field most plays. The other backer in

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Speaker 1: that is on the field about at the time. So

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Speaker 1: it's not a position is you have to go get

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Speaker 1: in the first or second round. It is a position

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Speaker 1: that can be drafted late, and there's a question over

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Speaker 1: what that role will actually look like. It's not like

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Speaker 1: you're playing, yeah, two inside linebackers of the time and

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Speaker 1: need frontline equity at both of those spots. I think

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Speaker 1: that's how they're playing the position. You know. The interesting

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Speaker 1: thing with the signing of Christian Kirk and the signing

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Speaker 1: of Zay Jones is if say Nakobe Dean, who is

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Speaker 1: getting dinged because he's not very tall, slides down the

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Speaker 1: board and is sitting there at thirty three, you now

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Speaker 1: don't have to go take a wide receiver if Nacoby

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Speaker 1: Dean is the best player on your board and is

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Speaker 1: sitting at thirty three, you can solve that problem right there.

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Speaker 1: That's what free agency did for them. It gave them

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Speaker 1: the flexibility to go and do what they want to

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Speaker 1: do on draft Dack. Honest, I completely forgot about Dylan Moses.

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Speaker 1: That's much. We haven't talked about him this entire year. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he showed up on the practice field like

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Speaker 1: the last week of the season just to actually do

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Speaker 1: a little something. But um, he was on the non

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Speaker 1: football injury list all last year as a rookie. So

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Speaker 1: here we go. Let's see if you got anything in

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Speaker 1: the off season. That position is primarily a run position.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna play the snaps. I'm not saying it's unimportant,

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Speaker 1: but it's not just because it's on the depth chart.

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Speaker 1: I would consider a nickel corner a far higher priority

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Speaker 1: than that second linebacker position. But they's got that too.

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Speaker 1: What's that they got that too? Yeah, Darius Williams, I

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Speaker 1: know you're you're dialed in on wide receiver at thirty three,

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised at all if if you

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Speaker 1: watch that kid play at Georgia how good he is. Um,

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Speaker 1: if he slides down into that range, a playmaker on

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Speaker 1: defense is a playmaker own defense. Or if they trade

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Speaker 1: back and then I'm one pick, or if they trade

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Speaker 1: up into the first round for a receiver. They have

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Speaker 1: so many draft picks that it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: the setting stone. They can go trade up and get

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Speaker 1: what they need. Trader Schlinn. Yeah, well, they did a

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Speaker 1: nice job addressing enough holes that they have flexibility to

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Speaker 1: do the best thing for the team. And I'm a

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Speaker 1: always a best available player guy. All right, So now

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Speaker 1: what we've got, it's it's March one. The league meetings

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Speaker 1: are next week and Palm Beach, Johnny, you'll be there

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Speaker 1: for those rule change Just from the league. There's always

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Speaker 1: some news that seems to come out of those. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, you gotta hold some space in the camp

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Speaker 1: for the rookie salary pool all that, but they might

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Speaker 1: be a little tight with that. They might have to

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Speaker 1: do some work on some guys, renegotiate some things. Moving ahead,

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Speaker 1: there's and all of a sudden, April eleventh, officially the

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Speaker 1: start of the Jags offseason program. We're inside a month.

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Speaker 1: It certainly sounds free agency wise, like there, I mean

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Speaker 1: they actually done with that first wave. Uh. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like I'm not sure what's going on with Lender. Uh

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Speaker 1: there are reports that he's considering retirement. UM, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he'll be back or not. If he's not,

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Speaker 1: then you've got nine more million, and that possibly becomes

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Speaker 1: another possible quote frontline guy. I think Brian uske Trent

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Speaker 1: backy about the cap on on I Drive Time last week.

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Speaker 1: He certainly sounded to me the key phrase was he

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Speaker 1: emphasized that they hadn't pushed anything forward yet. Um. If

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Speaker 1: we people who don't understand mean pushing forward, that's when

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Speaker 1: you start getting yourself where you have to manage the

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Speaker 1: cap and sort of cheat the cap if you will.

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Speaker 1: That's where it becomes that credit card, the high interest

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Speaker 1: cription that's maxed out. It sounded to me like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to go there yet. Uh So I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they're going to spend big the rest of

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Speaker 1: this free agency per at this and then more cash

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Speaker 1: to spend at some point even shot. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: I think that would be the only trigger point there.

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Speaker 1: But I think Trent is happy having that cap un

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Speaker 1: mortgaged right now. Well, we talked about three years, a

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Speaker 1: three year window before you get the chance to pay

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and so spend of the cap, and certainly

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Speaker 1: they have done that. But Shelyn and I were just

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Speaker 1: doing numbers getting ready for tomorrow for drive time, and

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are currently twenty five in the salary cap

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Speaker 1: rankings right next year there and in there they are

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Speaker 1: twenty with a hundred and forty million dollars in cap room, right.

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Speaker 1: And the point is is that the cap is going

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Speaker 1: to take a couple of significant jumps forward here in

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Speaker 1: four So to put as much money as you can

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Speaker 1: in this year makes a lot of sense because then

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Speaker 1: you have flexibility in the next two years when you

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Speaker 1: still need to spend in the cap. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: they've done a good job. Tim Walls, she's been down

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Speaker 1: there and helping manage the camp, and he's a really

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Speaker 1: bright guy, and it sure looks like they have done

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Speaker 1: this right. From a from a number's perspective, going back

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Speaker 1: quickly to our linebacker discussion a moment ago, just moments ago,

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Speaker 1: this is a ten Am Adam schefter tweeting that Titans

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Speaker 1: free agent linebacker Rashaun Evans is visiting the Jaguars Tonight

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Speaker 1: source former first round pick. I tell the story in

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Speaker 1: Night In two eighteen, I'm in Dallas for the draft,

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Speaker 1: and I got word from someone who was in and

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Speaker 1: around the war room that there were four players the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars were looking at. Right. Um, they were interested in

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley. They were twenty nine and this was about

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Speaker 1: twenty on the clock. Calvin Ridley, the wide receiver from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: They we're looking at Hayden Hurst, the tight end from

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Um, we're Shaun Evans and your boy from Florida,

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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle, David Brian. Right, And the first three

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Speaker 1: went off right, those first three guy bang bang bang,

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Speaker 1: and they were left with Taven Brian. And of course

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Speaker 1: I thought Evans was a really nice player for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years in Tennessee, and I can remember

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Speaker 1: last year thinking how come they couldn't get him instead

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Speaker 1: of Taven Bran. Well, now it looks like they maybe

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Speaker 1: have a shot they in this league. That'll do it

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Speaker 1: for this edition of Jaguars reporters Ryan Sexton, Nashvill Sullivan,

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Speaker 1: John Osier, and for Joe Fortunado, I'm j P. Shadrick

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